November 24, 2010
— Open Blogger If this whole TSA/Scanner/Pat-Down business had started 30 days earlier, in October instead of November, how would the Nov 2nd elections have turned out?
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Posted by: ef at November 24, 2010 07:59 AM (c7Pp2)
Posted by: MrScribbler© at November 24, 2010 07:59 AM (Ulu3i)
Posted by: kefka at November 24, 2010 08:01 AM (MT+0i)
Posted by: trentk269 at November 24, 2010 08:02 AM (Uda+9)
The people that have to fly the most - mid to high level business people - did massively switch from Democrat to Republican in the last election anyway, so we wouldn't have gotten much more out of that group.
Out of the Democrat base it might have motivated a few people who actually care about "civil liberties" to stay home...but as with Gitmo we've actually seen that they in fact don't care about "civil liberties".
So my guess is little change really. The average union goon or federal bureaucrat isn't likely to vote against the gravy train just because their leaders now demand they submit to a little gate-rape when they fly.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 24, 2010 08:02 AM (7BU4a)
Child, please...
Posted by: Original Mikey at November 24, 2010 08:03 AM (umot9)
Posted by: Abby Adams at November 24, 2010 11:56 AM (pLTLS)
House seats, not Senate seats, I should clarify.
Posted by: Abby Adams at November 24, 2010 08:04 AM (pLTLS)
Posted by: Jean at November 24, 2010 08:04 AM (CPefM)
So all this invasion of one's privacy and body cavities are obviously Bush's fault.
Yes!!!
It's all part of how Bush trampled and shedded the Constitution. First he trampled it, getting it all wet and wrinkled and dirty. Then he shredded it, but he jammed the shredder because the Constitution was in no shape to run through the shedder after all the trampling. So the government had to get new shredders, and then it had to hire a bunch of people to manually shred the Constitution by hand with scissors and Xacto blades. This is how Bush grew the government and the annual deficits.
And that's how we got into the mess we're in.
Posted by: FireHorse at November 24, 2010 08:05 AM (sWynj)
So interesting that all this ramped up at the heaviest travel time of the year...
Posted by: RushBabe at November 24, 2010 08:06 AM (a3Z62)
If there had been an organized effort by the GOP to show how this stuff is part and parcel of the nanny state Dem agenda, maybe it'd have helped us, but nothing suggests the GOP had its act together to capitalize on something like this.
Oh, and, still no cooking thread. Isn't time running out?
Posted by: Y-not at November 24, 2010 08:07 AM (6qcf8)
Posted by: Fritz at November 24, 2010 08:07 AM (GwPRU)
Posted by: FireHorse at November 24, 2010 08:08 AM (sWynj)
Posted by: Jean at November 24, 2010 08:11 AM (CPefM)
Posted by: maddogg at November 24, 2010 08:13 AM (OlN4e)
It's bizarre. Did they get credible threats of crotch bombs, or is this just standard "don't just stand there, do something!" bureaucratic overreach?
The DHS's website, for whatever little it's worth, doesn't indicate any change in threat level since ... 2006 !? Someone forget to update that thing?
Posted by: Waterhouse at November 24, 2010 08:13 AM (5iNtI)
It really didn't have much other reason than that. Their GOTV apparatus is still better than the Republican one.
Posted by: Vic at November 24, 2010 08:14 AM (e4sSD)
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at November 24, 2010 08:14 AM (9hSKh)
If they were profiling likely bombers, I wouldn't have a problem with it. But that wouldn't be fair cuz after all this must be our fault.
Posted by: ontherocks at November 24, 2010 08:15 AM (HBqDo)
Posted by: Jean at November 24, 2010 12:11 PM (CPefM)
Actually what they should do is a separate bill for WH travel. Zero budget and tell them they have already spent everything they are going to get.
Posted by: Vic at November 24, 2010 08:15 AM (e4sSD)
Really? I've yet to see a leftwinger upset about this. The reaction I've seen from them is mostly just, "Teabaggerz are teh sTuPiD!!! No one wants to touch your jUnK!!!!!! LOLZ!!!"
Though usually not quite that coherent.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 24, 2010 08:15 AM (7BU4a)
Posted by: Christine O'Donnell at November 24, 2010 08:16 AM (+sBB4)
Oh, and, still no cooking thread.
On Squawk Box this morning, Becky Quick mentioned something about slider stuffing. You get a bunch of those little burgers from White Castle, take out the pickles and stuff the rest of 'em in.
Posted by: FireHorse at November 24, 2010 08:17 AM (sWynj)
Rush saying that CAIR has made a statement that all muslims should pat themselves down and report what they find to the TSA agents at the airport. I don't think he was kidding.
Yeah, patting myself down. That's what I was doing.
Posted by: Pee Wee Herman at November 24, 2010 08:19 AM (xxgag)
Give them more money!
Even as the world struggles to find workable ways to constrain North KoreaÂ’s expanding nuclear weapons program and unpredictable belligerence, United Nations Secretary General Ban Ki-moon is planning how to channel new streams of aid and development money to the dangerous regime.
Posted by: Vic at November 24, 2010 08:20 AM (e4sSD)
On the local TV news yesterday evening, there was a crew soliciting feedback from travelers at San Jose Airport and all those showed on camera didn't mind the body scans and patdowns if they "increased safety", or words to that effect.
I'm beginning to wonder if people in this area would even have a problem with anally probed for explosives hidden in their rectums.
Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at November 24, 2010 08:20 AM (fxACH)
Posted by: garrett at November 24, 2010 08:20 AM (L0cap)
Posted by: Jean at November 24, 2010 12:11 PM (CPefM)
Actually what they should do is a separate bill for WH travel. Zero budget and tell them they have already spent everything they are going to get.
Posted by: Vic at November 24, 2010 12:15 PM (e4sSD)
I understand the feeling, but let's not make this guy a martyr.
Remember, those squishy "independents" who voted D in 2008 and R in 2010 can be swayed by the smallest things.
Posted by: CJ at November 24, 2010 08:21 AM (9KqcB)
" Chuck Berry has something to say"
I was really afraid that this had something to do with pooping.
Posted by: Joanie (Oven Gloves) at November 24, 2010 08:22 AM (HaYO4)
Posted by: toby928™ at November 24, 2010 08:25 AM (S5YRY)
Posted by: Thrush at November 24, 2010 08:34 AM (fOEq7)
The full-on groping regimen coincided with the release of W's book. I associate TSA and assorted other tidbits of big benevolent government stupidity with W's unwarranted optimism arising from a lifetime of noblesse oblige.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at November 24, 2010 08:42 AM (3iMgs)
Posted by: AoSHQ's DarkLord© at November 24, 2010 08:46 AM (GBXon)
You think those McDonald rejects will come to work the next day?
This will never happen as they have never stopped any terrorist from boarding a plane, but I wonder what would go through their feeble minds if it did or if they even think that it could happen.
Posted by: Frequent Flyer #9 at November 24, 2010 08:58 AM (7cXE7)
Posted by: Big Brother at November 24, 2010 09:00 AM (nUK9C)
Oh dear...did I just kill another thread??
I don't think you did. Maybe it's because open bloggers have increased the volume of posts, or maybe a lot of morons are on vacation, too -- but it seems that any thread's life expectancy is shorter this week.
You know what always used to keep a thread going? Calling Ace an elistist. So, even though everyone has been doing a great job at the HQ all week, and big thanks to ArthurK et al for their work ...
>> Discuss.
That comes across as quite elistist, ArthurK.
Posted by: FireHorse at November 24, 2010 09:12 AM (sWynj)
Posted by: Comrade Arthur at November 24, 2010 09:56 AM (MX3bq)
I've actually been through the full-body scanner. They were testing it at the Oakland airport back in August. For those of you who haven't traveled through Oakland, it is not a very busy airport--I think it's a great alternative to SFO. In any case, the TSA agents didn't tell me what they were doing--they didn't notify me that there was an opt-out. I was most frustrated because they make you remove EVERYTHING--not just the metal--from your pockets as well as take off your belts. I've lost some weight recently (yea, me), and so without a belt my pants were falling down. It's basically a miserable procedure.
If the public had that kind of experience, I think support would plummet.
Posted by: Second-String Commenter at November 24, 2010 09:57 AM (mAm+G)
Posted by: Ohio Dan at November 24, 2010 10:17 AM (Skc3Q)
Posted by: Comrade Arthur at November 24, 2010 10:18 AM (MX3bq)
I know 2 people who tried to get a job with them this summer. One was ex Mil, one had been a manager of a chistian Book store for 12 years. Both out of work and desperate for a job. Both excellent people, clean backgrounds, passed the tests and ultimately rejected.
I am fairly sure they are selecting employees who will not point out this is an illegal order and that they cant do this to people.
There was no reason to reject either man for the job other than the fact they just wouldnt be down with groping old ladies and kids.
That said, I have a friend who is an extremely liberal Shrink who is HIGHLY disturbed by this turn of events. He is stunned that the people he thought were on the side of civil liberties are so callously and gleefully violating them.
He thinks the lesson to kids of "never lets someone touch you there, except of they wear a uniform or are in a position of authority" is criminal. I have never seen someone so disillusioned in my lifeThe idea they will install this process other places freaks him out.
My ultra liberal jewish friend is losing his mind from cognitive dissonance. Hes a pilot and can hardly belive that the "good guys" are doing this. He uses words like Betrayal. And Police state. And has told me "Dont travel"
Hes just about been turned.
This man is a staunch communist. But he was rasied in israel and hes pretty sure that even communists dont do this to you. Pretty much he expected this from republicans and has now discovered the TRUTH.
Posted by: Gushka at November 24, 2010 10:22 AM (93zw2)
I just remembered that humour is often filtered out on the internet. my note #63 was a JOKE.
Got it. Been thread hopping.
(By the by, I noticed an interesting spelling. Whence in the Commonwealth do you hail?)
Posted by: FireHorse at November 24, 2010 10:26 AM (sWynj)
Posted by: ObamaSuxDonkeyBalls at November 24, 2010 10:57 AM (w74G6)
... and damn, this was inevitable ...
TSAstroturf: The Washington Lobbyists and Koch-Funded Libertarians Behind the TSA Scandal
I'm sure Bruce will be collecting his check from the Koch Brothers any day now. LOL
Posted by: Bitchen Meg at November 24, 2010 12:23 PM (tE8FB)
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Posted by: Abby Adams at November 24, 2010 07:56 AM (pLTLS)