April 09, 2010
— Ace How many seats will Republicans pick up?
The 79 seat prediction is a little silly - it involves enhancing Rasmussen's 9-point spread with a 3.4% kicker to represent under-polling conservatives; but Rasmussen is probably polling conservatives just fine -- but the rest of the numbers are pretty possible. Somewhere between 51 and 65 seats, unless something changes.
Dick Morris continues predicting the Senate will flip, too.
Presaging the looming Republican sweep is the shift in the party ratings on various issues. Rasmussen has the Republicans ahead by 49-37 on the economy and 53-37 on healthcare. His likely-voter poll shows GOP leads on every major issue area: national security (49-37), Iraq (47-39), education (43-30), immigration (47-34), Social Security (48-36) and taxes (52-34).When Republicans are winning issues like education, healthcare and Social Security — normally solidly Democratic issues — a sweep of unimaginable proportions is in the offing.
Question: Why are big-name Republicans giving Charles Schumer a free pass? If Scott Brown can win in Massachusetts, surely the caustic, arrogant, uber-liberal and hyperpartisan Schumer can be beaten.
In another interesting poll, Scott Rassmussen McGoebblesGoering finds that the public thinks that big money contributions pervert our politics. But even more of the public blames a biased media.
Fifty-five percent (55%) of U.S. voters continue to think that media bias is a bigger problem in politics today than big campaign contributions, identical to the finding in August 2008.Thirty-two percent (32%) say big contributions are the bigger problem, but thatÂ’s down four points from the previous survey. Thirteen percent (13%) more are not sure.
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Posted by: Your Mainstream Media at April 09, 2010 09:52 AM (W5NBA)
Wouldn't it be better to miss the majority by one or two seats and have the Dems own the whole mess?
The GOP could still cause havoc with a near majority, then campaign for a clean sweep in 2012.
Like Steyn said, winning would give, "the GOP co-ownership of an awkward couple of years."
Jug Ears would veto anything they put forth anyways...right?
Posted by: RarestRX at April 09, 2010 09:54 AM (rmNST)
Posted by: joncelli at April 09, 2010 09:55 AM (RD7QR)
Apparently Pataki doesn't want to run and there are no viable Republicans. They had to run out and convert a Democrat to run for Governor and he's spending his time attacking longtime GOP guy Rick Lazio. It's a primary, so that's going to happen but it shows what state the party is in.
Also, Chukie has tons of money.
The bigger shame is no challenger for Gillibrand.
Posted by: DrewM. at April 09, 2010 09:55 AM (9B5OK)
That one's easy. 1) He'd bury them in money twenty-to-one. 2) The NY Republican party is run by an incompetent member of the Nixon family who probably thinks that Schumer's a middle of the road moderate.
The bigger question is, why the FUCK is Alfonse D'Amato running interference on behalf of Gillibrand? I've read reports that he's the one trying to keep Pataki out of the race.
Posted by: Lou at April 09, 2010 09:56 AM (PtIpn)
Wouldn't it be better to miss the majority by one or two seats and have the Dems own the whole mess?
No. We want them both.
I'm sick of people playing chicken with the country's future.
Posted by: Y-not at April 09, 2010 09:56 AM (Kn9r7)
Posted by: joncelli at April 09, 2010 09:56 AM (RD7QR)
Heck, Gillenbrand's seat is there for the taking. All Rudy or Pataki had to do was simply say they were running & it's pretty much a slam-dunk. But, they haven't or won't.
Puzzling.
Posted by: Cam Winston at April 09, 2010 09:56 AM (5L9k4)
Posted by: beedubya at April 09, 2010 09:56 AM (AnTyA)
I wish Dick Morris would tell me who is going to win the superbowl, so I could bet heavily on the other team and retire.
Posted by: 3rd_Bird at April 09, 2010 09:56 AM (4q74r)
Posted by: Cam Winston at April 09, 2010 09:57 AM (5L9k4)
Posted by: beedubya at April 09, 2010 09:57 AM (AnTyA)
The answer is, absolutely yes. We can't afford even another 2 more years of this socialist suicide track our country has been put on. Obama and company are already going to try and push through every piece of crap on their legislative agenda as fast as humanly possible before the mid-terms.
I just don't think our nation can survive two more years of this, by then the damage might be irreparable. Who gives a shit who gets blamed for what at this point, another 4 years of this crap and we won't have much of an America left.
Posted by: StuckOnStupid at April 09, 2010 09:58 AM (e8T35)
Posted by: Person in a thread who always says Dick Morris is wrong at April 09, 2010 09:59 AM (FkKjr)
Schumer is not up for election... it's the other one... and I wish Pataki would get in...
Posted by: yarrrrr at April 09, 2010 10:00 AM (Ue2a6)
Posted by: Dr. Spank at April 09, 2010 10:00 AM (I1/U/)
Posted by: Big Swede at April 09, 2010 10:01 AM (1EZ8w)
Dick Morris? He's a gossip.
I'll wait for the real expert on elections, Michael Barone, to weigh in.
Posted by: Fred Jones, Scooby Gangmember at April 09, 2010 10:01 AM (uFokq)
Posted by: 3rd_Bird at April 09, 2010 01:56 PM
I heard Dick Morris say time after time that he was certain that Hillary was going to be Obysmal's running mate
Posted by: beedubya at April 09, 2010 10:01 AM (AnTyA)
Gillenbrand would toast if either entered the race.
I suppose Rudy has lost his enthusiasm for electoral politics since getting his ass handed to him in the Republican primaries (and since he's learned the joy of earning metric fuck-tonnes of money through consulting).
More puzzling is Pataki. What he doing with his spare time, other than sitting around at home in his underwear watching Sports Center and drinking beer?
Posted by: DelD at April 09, 2010 10:01 AM (eWtdM)
Most people here will likely call me crazy, but I'm predicting 70-72 seats in the house, and yes I am predicting the Senate will flip as well.
Posted by: StuckOnStupid at April 09, 2010 10:01 AM (e8T35)
I heard Dick Morris say time after time that he was certain that Hillary was going to be Obysmal's running mate
I saw him on fox news saying Hillary will win the nomination and will be the next president.
Posted by: 3rd_Bird at April 09, 2010 10:02 AM (4q74r)
5 The question is, do we want the House and Senate back?
Wouldn't it be better to miss the majority by one or two seats and have the Dems own the whole mess?
No, it's not better! We simply don't have the luxury of time.
Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at April 09, 2010 10:02 AM (9hSKh)
Posted by: joncelli at April 09, 2010 10:03 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Big Swede at April 09, 2010 02:01 PM (1EZ8w)
Yeah, that's sad.
btw, I just got an email that next week's big Federal oil and gas lease auction for Montana and North Dakota is being delayed by the Obamacommies at the BLM.
Posted by: TexasJew at April 09, 2010 10:04 AM (P9FdQ)
I wouldn't get too excited just yet. November is still quite a ways off.
I expect the GOP to do well -- as oppo parties always do in midterms -- but I wouldn't count too much on the "historic blowout" stuff. If the economy ticks back up over the summer, I'd expect a lot of the populist anger to subside. On the other hand, an old-fashioned SCOTUS donnybrook could keep the kettle a-boilin' clear through the summer, depending on how supine the GOP chooses to be.
It'll be interesting to see who the GOP trots out on the 2010 campaign trail as a preface to a 2012 presidential run. I think Mitt is probably a ghost; that MassCare albatross will sink him because he's going to be completely unable to speak out against ObamaCare without sounding like a hypocrite. Huck has his charms for certain folks, but I don't see him getting any real traction either. Palin? Maybe, but I doubt it: not only is she too polarizing for the congenitally unable-to-make-up-their-fricking-minds "independents", but she does the GOP more good as a catalyst to keep the GOP base fired up.
My own hope is that Minnesota's very own Tim Pawlenty runs. He's a good guy, he has solid conservative cred, and has lots of experience dealing with idiot leftist Democrats in his home state. If Tim gets out on the campaign trail with a high profile and starts getting favorable ink, it may convince him to run in 2012.
Paul Ryan is a dark-horse contender. He became a GOP star during the ObamaCare debates, but he may be too much of a numbers wonk. Also, he's a Representative -- traditionally, Governors or Senators get the nod for Presidential runs.
Posted by: Monty at April 09, 2010 10:04 AM (4Pleu)
OT: Sarah puts a huge smackdown on "The Won":
In foreign policy, weÂ’ve got the makings of the Obama Doctrine: coddling our enemies while alienating allies.
The administration eased sanctions on Cuba and sided with Chavez against Honduran democracy. They won’t bring up human rights with China because, quote, ‘we know what they are going to say.’ They offer tepid sanctions on North Korea and ‘gold stars and cookies’ for the Sudanese President. They send letters to Iranian mullahs but can barely muster a word of support for the Green Movement seeking freedom and women’s rights in Iran!
And President Obama, with all that vast nuclear expertise he acquired as a community organizer, a part-time senator, and a candidate for president, has accomplished nothing to date with Iran or North Korea.
Meanwhile, this administration alienates our friends. They treated Afghanistan President Hamid Karzai poorly and acted surprised when he reacted in kind. And they escalated a minor zoning decision into a major breach with Israel, our closest ally in the Middle East.
Folks, someone needs to remind the President: Jerusalem is not a settlement. Israel is our friend. And the critical nuclear concerns of our time are North Korea, who has nuclear weapons, and Iran, who wants them.
Posted by: conscious and keeping it real at April 09, 2010 10:05 AM (YVZlY)
Posted by: joncelli at April 09, 2010 10:05 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Dr. Spank at April 09, 2010 10:05 AM (I1/U/)
Take the House. Take the Senate. Go to work six days a week indefinitely. Hold hearings on everything. Start putting legislation up to the president. Make him veto, veto, veto. Go to the Democrats who voted "No" on health care and say "you have some ideas we could work with and find some compromise on" and actually work with them and start giving Obama bills to veto that make him look really bad.
Shut the Democratic leadership out of everything.
We'll have enough votes to put major pressure on Obama. He can either crumble and a GOP/conservative Dem congressional coalition - true bipartisanship, there are 20-30 House Dems the GOP can with work productively on a lot of issues - they can run the country.
Or he can dig in his heels and look stubborn in the same way Bush did. The voters didn't blame the Dems for 2006-2008. They won't blame the GOP for 2010-2012. Break Obama well before the election, get him out, elect someone who knows what the hell they're doing, and really get to work.
If it worked out really well a lot of good things could already have been forced down Obama's throat in '10-'12.
If we get enough seats we'll have the power to break Obama's presidency if we do it right. We can and we should.
Posted by: skwiself at April 09, 2010 10:05 AM (nohPf)
Republicans (and those who vote for them) should be careful what they wish for, because they might just get it. I want them to get to 60 R's in the Senate, and then I want them to REPEAL the damn healthcare bill. Even if Obama vetoes it, I want the Senate (and of course the House, too) to vote to repeal it.
But imagine if the R's do get to 60 votes in the Senate, and take the House. And then they go all squishy on us and don't make that " repeal it" vote. They go all nuancy on us. I predict all hell would break loose if people felt they'd been double-crossed again and that there really isn't anybody in DC who shares our goals and values. That no matter who you vote for, you will get screwed.
Posted by: Boots at April 09, 2010 10:05 AM (06JTY)
Ya but Baghdad Bob was a lot more entertaining to watch. "There are no American troops anywhere near Baghdad! Those are complete lies!" He would say as an M-1 Abrams rolled past the cameras behind him in the streets of Baghdad..
Lol.. man, I miss that guy.
Posted by: StuckOnStupid at April 09, 2010 10:05 AM (e8T35)
Posted by: joncelli at April 09, 2010 10:07 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: maddogg at April 09, 2010 10:07 AM (OlN4e)
Posted by: mim/ginaswo at April 09, 2010 10:08 AM (LIwgF)
In the House, we need 40 seats. It's do-able. Tough, but do-able. We need to make sure Bachman and Joe Wilson win. We cannot allow the Left those two victories.
This is what I'd like to see happen in the Senate: Reid gets defeated. Specter wins the primary and gets defeated in the general. McCain loses to Hayworth in the primary, and Hayworth wins. And we pick up Bayh's seat in Indiana.
So, +40 in the House to get rid of Madame Sneaker. And +3 key seats in the Senate. Bonus: we get rid of McCain.
Posted by: Fred Jones, Scooby Gangmember at April 09, 2010 10:08 AM (uFokq)
Posted by: Dr. Spank at April 09, 2010 10:09 AM (I1/U/)
Don't judge me, wingnut.
Posted by: The Summer of George Pataki at April 09, 2010 10:09 AM (gQ+XA)
I sure as fuck hope it is huge in order to accomplish two things:
1. Get the commiecrats out of power.
2. Send a message to th republicans that we are SERIOUS about small goverment. We are already seeing indications that the Republicans are not at all serious about reducing the size of government. They need to GET serious about it. We can't just go cutting social security and medicare and the like but we need to get right on doing things like Ryan has proposed.
Posted by: doug at April 09, 2010 10:09 AM (I6iFS)
Lol.. man, I miss that guy.
Hollywood missed a huge opportunity when they failed to build a sitcom around that guy. The stories just write themselves.
Posted by: Monty at April 09, 2010 10:10 AM (4Pleu)
Posted by: Unclefacts, AoSHQ Professional Debate Team at April 09, 2010 10:10 AM (erIg9)
If the Repubs run NEW blood, instead of recycle the same folks who got us into this mess???? 70+ seats.
If the Repubs continue on the road they are on now, only looking for Big Names... the same folks who got kicked out of power in the last couple election cycles? 45-50 just do to voter anger.
If the Repubs really gave a dam about this country, they would have people like McCain retiring... so the taint of the past would not become a factor with Independents, like meself.
Posted by: Romeo13 at April 09, 2010 10:10 AM (OlHjR)
But imagine if the R's do get to 60 votes in the Senate, and take the House. And then they go all squishy on us and don't make that " repeal it" vote. They go all nuancy on us. I predict all hell would break loose if people felt they'd been double-crossed again and that there really isn't anybody in DC who shares our goals and values. That no matter who you vote for, you will get screwed.
No, don't think that's going to happen.. at least I don't think it will be as big of an issue in 2010 as it will be in 2012.
Remember until 2012 any "repeal" effort will just get vetoed by Obama and it's doubtful we'll put enough Republican's in place in 2010 to override a veto. I think it's still imperative that they vote on repeal after 2010 and before 2012 though, if nothing else to force Obama to veto it.
Now if you look at what's happening in Arizona, for example, the republicans are being sent a clear message. Yes, we are pissed at the democrats at the moment but the R behind your name is not job security. If your a worthless RINO odds are good you won't win your own primary, even as an incumbent.
At the very least you'll be put in a position of working your ass off to defend your seat. So, I think after a huge gain in seats in 2010 the republicans will stay focused and fight Obama's agenda until 2012.
Even if we still have some Rino's left by then, we can always go Rino hunting in 2012. We don't need to do it all in one election. We just need to get enough seats to enough quality people to halt and begin the process of reversing the damage O'Barry has done thus far.
Not a perfect solution, but it's what we have to work with at the moment.
Posted by: StuckOnStupid at April 09, 2010 10:12 AM (e8T35)
Yeah, it'd be cool to have subpoena power and cause a ruckus.
Yeah, it'd be cool to hold up Ogabe's SCOTUS picks.
But, with Obama swinging his veto pen around like a lightsaber, the GOP isn't going to get shit done in 2 years.
The MSM goes full retard on the "Party of No and Party of Nothing Happening" and maybe the House and Senate flip back...
Posted by: RarestRX at April 09, 2010 10:12 AM (rmNST)
Posted by: Cam Winston at April 09, 2010 01:57 PM (5L9k4)
It's both. Schumer is up for his regular term. Gillibrand is running in a special election for the last 2 years of Hillary's term. Who ever wins has to run again in '12.
That's one reason I don't think Rudy ran...he'd essentially have to run for the next 3 years straight. It also maybe what's holding Pataki back.
Schumer is the Kennedy of NY. He's Senator for life.
Posted by: DrewM. at April 09, 2010 10:13 AM (9B5OK)
This was, to coin a phrase, unexpected?
Posted by: jwpaine at April 09, 2010 10:13 AM (g4J4S)
Wouldn't it be better to miss the majority by one or two seats and have the Dems own the whole mess?
The GOP could still cause havoc with a near majority, then campaign for a clean sweep in 2012.
Posted by: RarestRX at April 09, 2010 01:54 PM (rmNST)
I don't have an answer of my own, but Michael Barone had an excellent essay at the American Enterprise Institute the other day comparing the mid-term elections of 1946 to today's circumstances and commenting on the accomplishments of the 80th congress:
Those well-versed in electoral history will point out that the Republicans lost their congressional majorities in 1948, as congressional Democrats ran ahead of Truman, who beat Dewey 50%–45%, and that Republicans have never again enjoyed the House majority they had in 1947–1948. But as those versed in the history of government policy know, the congressional majorities Democrats held in 1949–1952 and 1955-1964 were not large enough to repeal the work of what Truman called, quite inaccurately, the do-nothing 80th Congress. The 1947–1948 Republican Congress eliminated wage and price controls, sharply reduced the powers of labor unions by passing over Truman’s veto the Taft-Hartley Act, and made at least a slight dent in wartime high tax rates. Those proved enduring policy successes. They also made possible the bounteous postwar economic growth which was so glaringly absent in welfare-state Britain.
Posted by: Jazz at April 09, 2010 10:15 AM (hnq5i)
Posted by: THE SAVE GUAM PROJECT at April 09, 2010 10:15 AM (ngD76)
If the Republicans win big, this November, and then renege on all their conservative posturing, they'll lose even bigger in 2012 and the party will probably be defunct by 2014.
Posted by: Fred Jones, Scooby Gangmember at April 09, 2010 10:15 AM (uFokq)
Three Sunday evenings ago when Obama-Care passed, did I not promise that I would deliver a new idea that could ultimately redound to the preservation of the Republic? (Or something like that?)
Well, here it is: http://docs.google.com/View?id=d9zrjs6_12g68ptbg5
That is a Google Doc link to an Amendment proposal. I ask that you and everyone give it a look and to not be quick to dismiss. Though the language of the Amendment itself is short, the thought that went into its mechanisms was not casual. It is well researched, and the accompanying argumentation is thorough.
Like any Amendment, it would take years to get ratified, but it would be well worth it.
Posted by: Dave at April 09, 2010 10:15 AM (dYwM1)
Posted by: DrewM. at April 09, 2010 02:13 PM (9B5OK)
pretty much this. Schumer wins consistently despite upstate(outside of the cities) going red over and over. NYC liberals like their free money, and Schumer delivers.
Posted by: Unclefacts, AoSHQ Professional Debate Team at April 09, 2010 10:15 AM (erIg9)
Good question. If a challenger cannot beat (or at least threaten) a progressive liberal now at this unique time and circumstance, then the opposition just isn't a viable party in the district. Given the furious public and the context of Brown, I don't believe there's a safe liberal in the nation. Every one of them can and should be given political grief both on the odd chance that the "unbeatable" gets thrashed or the even chance that the unbeatable gets bogged down and cannot work more globally to help troubled peers.
There's not a safe seat in government. Hit them now while we still have the muscle.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at April 09, 2010 10:15 AM (oJaPx)
If Lynch(R) can make a strong showing against Deutch(D), who the Palm Beach Post described in their endorsement as "reliably liberal", that's probably a good indicator of what's to come in Nov.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at April 09, 2010 10:15 AM (C9/2x)
Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at April 09, 2010 10:16 AM (CJOrs)
Whenever Dick Morris makes a prediction you can be sure that it won't be right. My prediction: 55 in the House, max of 6 in the Senate.
Posted by: joncelli at April 09, 2010 01:55 PM (RD7QR)
I was gonna say, however if Kos starts predicting that the Republicans wont take back both houses then you can damn well bet they will.
Posted by: Blazer at April 09, 2010 10:18 AM (t72+4)
President veto still needs a budget. And guess who has to write it. Is he willing to go all tirade shut down the government veto man to spend us into oblivion, while Republicans refuse to deliver a budget that does so? If he does, the next campaign kind of writes itself.
Posted by: Mike Trying To Not Get Kidnapped Moose at April 09, 2010 10:20 AM (0q2P7)
If Lynch(R) can make a strong showing against Deutch(D), who the Palm Beach Post described in their endorsement as "reliably liberal", that's probably a good indicator of what's to come in Nov.
Define 'strong showing.'
Posted by: Fred Jones, Scooby Gangmember at April 09, 2010 10:20 AM (uFokq)
A majority think the broadcast media misled them. That is how I am reading it.
Posted by: Steve In Tulsa at April 09, 2010 10:20 AM (oHufc)
Posted by: Dr. Spank at April 09, 2010 10:21 AM (I1/U/)
But, with Obama swinging his veto pen around like a lightsaber, the GOP isn't going to get shit done in 2 years.
Yeah but Obama won't get shit done either. That's definitely a net positive for America by stopping the America-destroying plans of this pathetic excuse for a president.
Posted by: buzzion at April 09, 2010 10:22 AM (oVQFe)
...by then the damage might be irreparable.
I wish I could remember who said this: "Anything government has done can be undone."
The GOP needs to start getting tough with the corrupt progressive punks who are doing their damnedest to destroy the country.
No prisoners, no quarter, politically speaking of course.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at April 09, 2010 10:22 AM (i3AsK)
Posted by: George Orwell at April 09, 2010 10:26 AM (AZGON)
Okay here's how I see it.
Right now there are 253 D's, 178 R's, and 4 vacant seats. Total = 435.
The 4 vacant seats are: NY-29 (Massa-D), PA-12 (Murtha-D), HI-1 (Abercrombie-D), and GA-09 (Deal-R).
According to Cook Political, there are 5 D seats that are either "lean R" or "likely R", and one vacant D seat (NY-29) that is "lean R). There are also 26 seats (24 D, 2 R), as well as the two remaining vacant D seats, that are tossup. The two tossup R seats are IL-10 (Kirk) and LA-02 (Cao). There is also 1 R seat listed as "lean D" (DE-01, Castle).
So: If the R's take all of the "likely R/lean R" seats, and take all of the tossup seats, and take all of the vacant seats, and hold DE-01, then that would give the R's 211 and the D's 224, or +33 for R's. Still not enough.
For the R's to get at least 7 more seats, they would need to pick up some "lean D" seats in heavy R districts. There are 9 districts that have PVI indices of R+6 or higher. But, some of these are entrenched incumbents who will be almost impossible to defeat. There are also 10 D freshmen on the "lean D" list, which may be easier to defeat but may not come from a heavily R district.
The bottom line for me is that it's not a slam dunk that the R's will retake the House, it's going to be tough.
Posted by: chemjeff at April 09, 2010 10:26 AM (pTyL2)
Posted by: jlfintx at April 09, 2010 10:26 AM (JtnAT)
Wouldn't it be better to miss the majority by one or two seats and have the Dems own the whole mess?
Yes we do and no it would not. We have to defund ObamaCare, PERIOD. It'll take control of the House to do that. Boehner has already pledged to do that; we may have to hold his feet to the fire on it but at least with him as Speaker of the next Congress there will be a chance. We have to bottle Obama up in the Senate, PERIOD. For the time being, at least, it does still take a two-thirds Senate majority to ratify that disarm-America treaty Obastard just signed, assuming the Dems even care about that anymore and don't just use 51 votes for it. If they're left with a one-or-two seat majority then it'll be full-speed simple-majority all the way on every last bit of Senate business.
The Dems owning the whole mess will be cold comfort when we're left to stand around in the ashes of what used to be our country, figuratively and perhaps even literally.
Punch up! Fight to win! It seems like there's somebody who pushes the "lose now to win later" strategy every cycle.
Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at April 09, 2010 10:26 AM (CJOrs)
Posted by: Obligatory Guy in Every Thread Pointing Out That Dick Morris Is Always Wrong at April 09, 2010 10:28 AM (CJOrs)
The 4 vacant seats are: NY-29 (Massa-D), PA-12 (Murtha-D), HI-1 (Abercrombie-D), and GA-09 (Deal-R).
Posted by: Fred Jones, Scooby Gangmember at April 09, 2010 10:29 AM (uFokq)
The MSM has already gone "full retard". They can't go any further.
If the GOP makes the predicted gains this November, it will be BECAUSE the people want Obama stopped. I doubt that the Pubs will be tosssed right back out again for opposing the blatantly dangerous Obama policies, and/or attempting to repeal what has proven to be a highly unpopular health care bill.
"Party of No" will be worn like a badge of honor.
Posted by: Bob, the concern troll at April 09, 2010 10:29 AM (YmPwQ)
The bottom line for me is that it's not a slam dunk that the R's will retake the House, it's going to be tough.
I concur, ol' chum. You broke it down like Michael Barone would.
Posted by: Fred Jones, Scooby Gangmember at April 09, 2010 10:32 AM (uFokq)
Dick Morris continues predicting the Sentate will flip...
I think it was during the 2004 election that FOX did a montage of Morris making rpedictions during the 2000 election....every one was wrong.
Posted by: rightzilla at April 09, 2010 10:33 AM (rVJH4)
Dick Morris bet a friend 100 bucks Scott Norwood was going to make that kick during Superbowl XXV.
Posted by: Blazer at April 09, 2010 10:33 AM (t72+4)
Posted by: LGoPs at April 09, 2010 10:34 AM (tm/sN)
Posted by: chemjeff at April 09, 2010 10:35 AM (pTyL2)
You've said this before... why are you expecting the economy to tick back up by November? Seriously. 'Cause nobody sees even a hint of recovery on the horizon that doesn't involve government hiring. The only thing ticking surging up is the price of OIL, and if people are in a world of hurt now just imagine what it's going to be like when gas prices are back to 4 bucks a gallon (likely by mid-summer), or even higher.
I see the GOP's chances of taking the House at about 70-30 and the Senate at almost 50-50.
Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at April 09, 2010 10:36 AM (CJOrs)
Posted by: MrCaniac at April 09, 2010 10:36 AM (Vol3D)
Posted by: someguy political consulting inc at April 09, 2010 10:37 AM (sYxEE)
Posted by: Next liberal argument for health care at April 09, 2010 10:38 AM (4JpPD)
Posted by: TonyRezko at April 09, 2010 10:38 AM (jgHWD)
The only thing ticking surging up is the price of OIL, and if people are in a world of hurt now just imagine what it's going to be like when gas prices are back to 4 bucks a gallon (likely by mid-summer), or even higher.
Hell, that's easy. I'll just make sure my tires are properly inflated. In accordance with our President's well thought out and sage energy policy.
Posted by: LGoPs at April 09, 2010 10:38 AM (tm/sN)
Dude, even I called bullshit on that one.
Posted by: "Fish Police" at April 09, 2010 10:40 AM (CJOrs)
Dick Morris once said that Geraldine "Jerry" Ferrara was undergoing surgery to become a woman. It was the closest thing to right he ever was.
Posted by: rightzilla at April 09, 2010 10:41 AM (rVJH4)
Gillibrand is up, too. NY Republicans have their heads pretty far up their asses; probably can't figure out who challenges which.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at April 09, 2010 10:41 AM (mR7mk)
REVISION
Right now there are 253 D's, 177 R's, and 5 vacant seats. Total = 435.
The 5 vacant seats are: NY-29 (Massa-D), PA-12 (Murtha-D), HI-01 (Abercrombie-D), FL-19 (Wexler-D), and GA-09 (Deal-R).
According to Cook Political, there are 5 D seats that are either "lean R" or "likely R", and one vacant D seat (NY-29) that is "lean R". There are also 26 seats (24 D, 2 R), as well as two vacant D seats (HI-01 and PA-12), that are tossup. The two tossup R seats are IL-10 (Kirk) and LA-02 (Cao). There is also 1 R seat listed as "lean D" (DE-01, Castle). FL-19 is listed as "solid D" and GA-09 is listed as "solid R".
So: If the R's take all of the "likely R/lean R" seats, and take all of the tossup seats, and take 4/5 of the vacant seats, and hold DE-01, then that would give the R's 209 and the D's 226, or +32 for R's. Still not enough.
For the R's to get at least 9 more seats, they would need to pick up some "lean D" seats in heavy R districts. There are 9 districts that have PVI indices of R+6 or higher. But, some of these are entrenched incumbents who will be almost impossible to defeat. There are also 10 D freshmen on the "lean D" list, which may be easier to defeat but may not come from a heavily R district.
The bottom line for me is that it's not a slam dunk that the R's will retake the House, it's going to be tough.
Posted by: chemjeff at April 09, 2010 10:43 AM (pTyL2)
The last time they sent someone to Congress was 40 years ago.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at April 09, 2010 10:45 AM (mR7mk)
Posted by: maddogg at April 09, 2010 10:45 AM (OlN4e)
There would be an unbreakable smile on my face for weeks if we gained in the 70 range, that would do more to ensure a lame duck term and failure than almost anything. Plus it would help in the belief that most people still believe in an exceptional USA and aren't going to embrace this far left thinking.
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at April 09, 2010 10:47 AM (7VvJB)
You got most of it right except Haywood. He's a flake and won't win the primary.
I see 50 instead of 40, and Joe Wilson is NOT in trouble.
Posted by: Kemp at April 09, 2010 10:52 AM (2+9Yx)
Posted by: someace at April 09, 2010 10:53 AM (i6ROy)
I don't think the economy will come back any time soon. There is no reason for it to come back, and plenty of reasons for it to stay in the hole.
See? You wingnuts are roting for the economy to fail. Talking it down. It will take 157 years for Obama to dig us out of the hole tthat Bush left us. The stock market is up! Census jobs! bwahaahahahhaaaa
:dragged off to a rubber room:
Posted by: Anotther Stupid Typical Fucking Moonbat at April 09, 2010 10:55 AM (YmPwQ)
Posted by: Anotther Stupid Typical Fucking Moonbat at April 09, 2010 10:56 AM (YmPwQ)
The older I get and the more I observe, the more I think the true power is in the Congress. Having the Presidency is with rare exception (Reagan) mostly symbolic and an easy target for the half aware public to put all the blame on.
Well...no. Given the President's power over foreign policy and his wide war-making powers, he's still got the whip hand in terms of our relationships to both allies and enemies. Domestically, the veto power and the VP's power as the deciding vote in the Senate give the Executive a lot of power there as well. The President also has the power of pardon, as well as other fiat powers.
The office reflects the man in it, in both good and bad ways.
Posted by: Monty at April 09, 2010 11:00 AM (4Pleu)
Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at April 09, 2010 11:01 AM (CJOrs)
For every problem there is a solution. Under my plan, rising gas prices will have the benefit of getting people out of their cars and into dirty overcrowded buses. There they will enjoy the benefits of close contact with fellow Americans and learn their language.
For those of you not blessed with bus service, the Soros Tire Guage Co. has agreed to distribute tire guages to car owners for the low cost of 50 billion of stimulus money
Posted by: Barack the Car Guy at April 09, 2010 11:05 AM (sYxEE)
Plus, the President has all of his henchmen in executive positions. It takes forever for the Legislative to agree to meet, much less unite, to reassert authority over rogue agencies. See EPA. The Judicial response is, typically, even slower. Executive response rate is the fastest. Corrections by the other branches usually don't take effect for years if at all.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at April 09, 2010 11:07 AM (oJaPx)
The thing to watch is R enthusiasm vs. D enthusiasm and which way the independents are going. That last one has got to be a worry for the dems as they are fleeing away from the dems by double digit margins. Having a +6D margin will not cover a +12 independent swing.
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at April 09, 2010 11:08 AM (7VvJB)
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Posted by: rightzilla at April 09, 2010 11:20 AM (rVJH4)
Posted by: Comrade Arthur at April 09, 2010 11:47 AM (3gnOu)
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Posted by: RushBabe at April 09, 2010 12:11 PM (LKkE8)
Frank Luntz was just on Cavuto and he said he originally predicted a 25-seat gain in the House, he's revising to 30. He says we're going to hear at least two or three more retirement announcements from the dems soon.
When he told Eric Bolling (Neil's replacement today) that "You have no idea how hard it is to refuse Nancy Pelosi when she's in your face saying, Don't you dare retire," Bolling said, "Why? So you quit. What can she do to you?"
Luntz replied that leaving Pelosi without an incumbent to run in Nov. will leave said retiree without ANY job to fall back on and no returned phone calls.
Posted by: RushBabe at April 09, 2010 12:21 PM (LKkE8)
I'd like Republicans to start chanting "Veto Proof Majority". Yeah its unlikely, but you gotta start dreaming, and I'm dreaming big.
Besides that way the MSM can spin the election as a defeat, even if we retake the house. "Yeah, But you're not veto proof"
Posted by: Iblis at April 09, 2010 12:29 PM (UQCPr)
Posted by: MrCaniac at April 09, 2010 12:43 PM (Vol3D)
Posted by: Head being pounded on desk Mallamutt
Sounds hollow.
Hey. Didn't the RNC have about $120mil? Anyone knows where it went?
Posted by: CUS at April 09, 2010 12:47 PM (wOGfT)
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Posted by: phreshone at April 09, 2010 02:52 PM (1AnxB)
@54: "Schumer is the Kennedy of NY. He's Senator for life."
Um, in that case, based on our experience, dude might wanna seriously consider investing in a kevlar helmet or three.
Posted by: John and Bobby Kennedy at April 09, 2010 05:02 PM (kmEfr)
Yes, Fred. The proposed 28th Amendment eliminates the Fed Gov's power to tax anything except the revenue of State of governments
Posted by: Dave at April 09, 2010 05:34 PM (dYwM1)
To read the profound implications of the proposed Amendment, please visit my Google Docs page at: http://docs.google.com/View?id=d9zrjs6_12g68ptbg5
Posted by: Dave at April 09, 2010 05:40 PM (dYwM1)
Wasn't there something a while back about Larry Kudlow possibly running against Schumer? Kudlow could self-fund and totally eliminate Schumer's monetary advantages.
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