1 no heavy metal?

2 and no posters

3 It burns when I pee.

4 no heavy metal?

Posted by: navycopjoe on a m17xr2 at September 25, 2010 07:42 PM (gg4j2)

Sure

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWxBrI0g1kE

5 Or, in honor of our glorious leader;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xxgRUyzgs0&ob=av3n

6

I was gonna link to some Cannibal Corpse, figuring that nothing could possibly make the listener or viewer want to vomit his guts out and punch testicles more than that.

Then I saw Alan Grayson's new ad.

7

^{and decrease in semen.}

 Posted by: GlaxoSmithKline Consumer Healthcare at September 25, 2010 07:45 PM (uCjoj)

That sucks.

8 Copeland?? You mean Gershwin right.

9 Nice of you morons to include ME

and yes Elvis could sing but most of his songs were Scheiss

10 Oh, I love classical music. I listen to it when I study or do some other type of work. (Only difficulty is that some of the quieter music makes me want to go soak in a bubble bath for hrs, which is lovely but not productive.)

11 I hate Mozart. Overrated drivel.

12

That said, I owe you some molten metal: (take out the space after .com)

http://www.youtube.com /watch?v=k5yp19t4VYs

13 Dead white man music pretty much covers most of my listening choices these days.

14 Metal? How about Pantera's "Cowboys From Hell"? (Played in front of an appreciative Russkie audience, no less...)

15

Then I saw Alan Grayson's new ad.

Posted by: The Q at September 25, 2010 07:47 PM (pfStM)

Do you know I was going to go join John Kerry's unit in Cambodia in 1968? We were totally going to slaughter some right wing, teabagging, communist, butt. But, uh, these ultra conservative, uh, people made me get a law degree first.

16

Ace,

FYI. Rhaposdy in Blue was written by George Gershwin, not Aaron Copland.

Copland is famous for "Fanfare for a Common Man" which was used in the opening of "Saving Private Ryan" and the ballet Rodeo which the song "Hoe-down" is famous for being in the Meat industry commericals.

17 I hate Mozart.

Overrated drivel.

Posted by: eman at September 25, 2010 07:49 PM (0f35+)

aber zuerst......you will blow me

18 So I read that in regards to Beck's rally in DC, Grayson said;

“These are people who were wearing sheets over their heads 25 years ago.” He also said: “You only have three friends in life: God, your mama, and the Democratic Party.

So...he doesn't realize that the Democrat Party and the Klan are historically tied together? Did he never run into Sen Sheets Byrd?

19

9 Copeland?? You mean Gershwin right.

What's odd is that the vid also says Copeland. Poor George...

20

Copland???

Monty, you have some sort of block there. You got the name of Copland's book wrong on Sunday??..

...and now you confuse him with Gershwin?

Something funny is going on...

21 I have a this CD and it is my favorite version of Porgy and Bess

http://tinyurl.com/3823zjc

As you can see it has become a huge collector's item.

Ray Charles and Cleo Lane do it right.

22 FYI. Rhaposdy in Blue was written by George Gershwin, not Aaron Copland. My bad. I was typing too fast. The conductor of the orchestra was Copeland Davis; Gershwin was the composer, of course. I fixed the post.

23 Something funny is going on... Nah, I'm just an idiot. I always get Gershwin and Copland's pieces confused with each other, and I cannot fathom why. Their musical styles are very different.

24

17 Copland is famous for "Fanfare for a Common Man" which was used in the opening of "Saving Private Ryan" and the ballet Rodeo which the song "Hoe-down" is famous for being in the Meat industry commericals.

Appalachian Spring > Simple Gifts

25

Nah, I'm just an idiot. I always get Gershwin and Copland's pieces confused with each other, and I cannot fathom why

I do the same with Pat Boone and Cannibal Corpse

26
A very underrated singer from the 60's who recorded at age 16, but her style of music was smothered by the rock revolution.  Karen Wyman

27 The only German stuff I really like is Wagner and the Ring of the Nibelug (I'm sure I misspelled that).

I used to crank up that Ride of the Valerie until my house shaked. I actually blew a breaker out of the breaker box once cranking that up.

28 Please, all those songs pale in comparison to this:
http://tinyurl.com/yfeyrfy

29 But Rapsody in Blue is used for the United commercials.

And Fanfare for the Common Man is used in one of the NBC news programs.

30 I think Copland's Appalachian Spring was what I was trying to think of, and then I veered off onto the "Summertime" piece from Porgy and Bess, which led me to Miles Davis, and then I somehow misremembered that Copland had done Rhapsody in Blue.

31 I believe Mr. Davis is the pianist.

32 Monty, man..... As usual,  we are not worthy.  Thank you

33 Monty since we are doing music tonight does that mean the book thread will actually be about books tomorrow?

I keed I keed.

34 I like dead white men--they had a certain something.

35 Did someone mention music?
Posted by: Katy Perry

Katy,

Sing into this microphone.

36 Don't feel bad, Monty. I can never tell my Gershwin from a Copland in the ground.

37 The only German stuff I really like is Wagner and the Ring of the Nibelug (I'm sure I misspelled that). My favorite Wagner piece has always been Parsifal, though his earlier Tannhauser is wonderful too. It's too bad he was such a turd: a legendary anti-Semite and all around pain in the ass to be around. I think that claims that he somehow prefigured Nazism are overblown, though. Funny how the greatest artistic talent resides in some of the most unpleasant people (as Salieri noted in disgust in Peter Schaeffer's Amadeus).

38 This selection, while very nice, is woefully short on Schubert.

39

I wish my favorite version of Handel's Messiah was on YT. What an intricate and complicated oratorio, not to mention some parts that call for instruments such as a Baroque trumpet.

_{/Baroque trumpet = no valves}

40 Mozart kicks bleeping ass.

One of most underrated pieces Mozart ever wrote is living proof that were he around today, he'd be a moron. A nasty, filthy moron.

http://tinyurl.com/n7bp88

The lyrics are so dirty they belong in the ONT.
I'll just link to them:

http://tinyurl.com/2vv7d7

41 Funny how the greatest artistic talent resides in some of the most unpleasant people (as Salieri noted in disgust in Peter Schaeffer's Amadeus).

Posted by: Monty at September 25, 2010 08:05 PM (o2hlb)

I didn't know that about him. I don't do a lot of research into the old composers.

42
Who could forget the young man studying civil engineering at UC Berkeley named William Hung who sang "She Bangs."

43 Best jazz song ever.
http://tinyurl.com/y9nwrbg

44 I was going to link to some of Palestrina's church music, but I don't even know if most people these days even know of his music. It's a shame. It's kind of archaic-sounding, but that's kind of what makes it so pretty. Here's a pretty good piece: "Kyrie".

45 Someone once told Copland that she was raised in Appalachia she lauded the way he captured her homeland so well in that piece. She said, "You must have spent a lot of time there."

Copland laughed and replied that the title "Appalachian Spring" was given to the piece AFTER it was completed. The music itself had nothing to do with Appalachia.

46 I was going to link more classical stuff, ladies, but the thread would have been ten miles long. Bach, Schubert, Lizt, Grieg, Handel, Tchaikovsky, Rachmaninoff, Gustav Mahler, Richard Strauss (early, not late), etc. Way leads ever on to way. Link a good piece on YT if you find one.

47 Monty,

My parish's choirs perform Palestrina quite regularly.
 I love his guts.
The best of all time was them singing "Tu Es Petrus" the night Pope Ben was elected.
 

48 Aaron Copland wrote Rodeo a block from where I live. He lived at Dean St. and Washington above a Western theme toy store that inspired him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EayhkCkpRFk

Beef. It's what's for dinner.

49

I wish my favorite version of Handel's Messiah was on YT. What an intricate and complicated oratorio, not to mention some parts that call for instruments such as a Baroque trumpet.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at September 25, 2010 08:06 PM (Yq+qN)

I need to know more about classical.  I just got the Teaching Company's survey course by prof, Greenberg.  Should be enlightening.  BTW. an unsolicited testimonial, but the Teaching Company courses are the greatest bargain out there.  I have a long commute, and their courses are brilliant

50 Actually Copeland Davis was the pianist.

51

44 One of most underrated pieces Mozart ever wrote is living proof that were he around today, he'd be a moron. A nasty, filthy moron.....The lyrics are so dirty they belong in the ONT.

Dude! If he indeed did contribute to that, then I think I must reconsider my idea that he is much purer than Beethoven. I think I need more proof on this one, though.  

52 Ahhhhhhh.  Music.  Michael Bolton anyone?

53 What? No Stevie Ray Vaughn? 


Fur Elise is one of my favorite piano pieces.

And Mozart did very little wrong, IMHO.

54 Miles Davis did great work through the 60's, then nutted out on drugs. What a shame.

55

Appalachian Spring > Simple Gifts

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at September 25, 2010 07:57 PM

Love that but I love this, too.  Yo Yo Ma and Alison Krauss, Simple Gifts.

56 Victoria's O Magnum Mysterium:
(I think the "Alleluia" at the end is one of the happiest in all of music.)

http://tinyurl.com/2cl2nhk

Latin text O magnum mysterium,et admirabile sacramentum,ut animalia viderent Dominum natum,jacentem in praesepio!Beata Virgo, cujus viscerameruerunt portareDominum Christum.Alleluia. English translation O great mystery,and wonderful sacrament,that animals should see the new-born Lord,lying in a manger!Blessed is the Virgin whose wombwas worthy to bearChrist the Lord.Alleluia!

57 Tchaikovsky is another one of my favorites in the classical field.

I did get to go to a ballet once in San Francisco and here a good orchestra play his stuff live. Didn't care much for the dancing but loved the music.

58 No Bach lovers here?  Here's my fave.

BTW... Beethoven wiped his ass with Mozart's sheet music.

59 arrrgg here = hear.

60

Nice.

Of course I'm so brain dead at the moment that I was surprised when the music stopped when I hit refresh.

<sigh>

61 It burns when I pee.

Posted by: Old grizzled gym coach at September 25, 2010 07:43 PM

This looks like a call for Zappa._{this is a music thread, after all}

62 Anonymous 4, anyone?

http://tiny.cc/3wm9f

63

Jerusalem as sung by Charlotte Church

_{/Which Hubert Perry adapted from William Blake poem.}

64 Gran,

Yes, I love Bach.

Here is one of my favorites, the Omnes from his Magnificat.
This YouTube contains a good visual of the fact that the number of times "Omnes" is begun is the exact number of generations from Christ back to David.

http://tinyurl.com/2c7ys3c

65

Rachmaninoff,

I threw this out the other day, but got no takers. Listen to the second movement of Rachmaninov's Piano Concerto #2 and tell me me what pop song is a blatant ripoff

66 Spem in alium, Thomas Tallis

http://tiny.cc/mupu7

67 What? No Stevie Ray Vaughn? 

Posted by: mpurinTexas (kicking Mexico's ass since 1836) at September 25, 2010 08:15 PM (xMKKV)

Any props for the great Stevie Ray will be echoed here.  The man was the best

68 Monty: Did you know that Aaron Copland wrote "Rhapsody in Blue"? AoS HQ: No, George Gershwin wrote that. Monty: Did you know that Copeland Davis was the conductor on the piece that I linked? AoS HQ: No, he was the piano player. Monty: Did you know that I can armpit-fart the theme from "Bonanza"? AoS HQ: .... Monty: No witty comeback for that one, huh, smart guy? Stop making me look stupid or I'll take all my shit and go home.

69 I can't find a decent performance of the 2nd movement of Beethoven's 7th symphony to link here, but damn that has soul.

70

Let us move on to one of the most beautiful pieces of piano music ever composed, Beethoven's "Fur Elise"

No.  The most beautiful piano music ever. 

Second place?  Moonlight Sonata.

I'm a fan of the big guy.

He was the original punk rocker, ya know.  You doubt me?  Look at his 5th symphony... with that opening.. http://tinyurl.com/c9pmkh

No one had done anything like that before him.  They would build up to it.  Something like that is the creshendo of a piece.

But Beethoven made the choice to just put the bottom line right up front.

Revolutionary for its time.

If he was arround in the 1970's, he would have made a great member of the Sex Pistols.  Instead of that no talent ass-clown Sid Vicious.

71 Another of my favorite classical works is Grofe's Grand Canyon Suite.

I have a few other odds and ends but not that much in my library in the classical realm having only 31 hours of classical music.

72 Gran,
Chicago has the only (I believe - or perhaps one of just two) free outdoor classical concert series in the nation.
Last year, we went to Beethoven 9 to close out the season.
Picnics, blankies, and copious amounts of champagne*. It was fabulous.

Ode to Joy:
http://tinyurl.com/39cn9re

By the ending notes, people were jumping up and down, hugging strangers, spilling wine, laughing, crying.
It was amazing.

^{*I found out the next week that I was pregnant.}

73 I linked to Joe B. rather than SRV because Joe has a lot of what made SRV great. I've been following him for years, and he just keeps getting better. (And he's still a young 'un; only 33 years old.) He's pretty much single-handedly keeping dirty blues alive right now, though Kenny Wayne Shepard and a few others are keeping the flame lit.

74 Apropos for the season..Midnight Syndicate

Yea, I got my full geek on.

http://tiny.cc/spau6

75

I threw this out the other day, but got no takers. Listen to the second movement of Rachmaninov's Piano Concerto #2 and tell me me what pop song is a blatant ripoff

Yeh, I tried. Point me at a particular YouTube vid and I'll try again. I'll fail, but still.

76 I can't listen to Fur Elise without thinking of Benny Hill. His up-tempo version brightened many a scene where Benny was chasing some buxom, underdressed bird....

77 It burns when I pee Have you been toad-licking?

78 My favorite Aaron Gershwin piece is Quadrophenia back when Jim Morrison wa the lead singer for Led Zeppelin

79

Monty: No witty comeback for that one, huh, smart guy?

Just wait til tomorrow morning when everyone's quoting from their favorite book: Stuff Copeland Didn't Compose.

80 56. I am a giant Mozart nerd. I belong to the Mozart forum, I have a Mozart party with Austrian food and Mozart Jeopardy every year after my parish sings the Mozart Requiem for the All Souls' Day Mass, etc.
I know his birdie was named Vogel Star and I know what  his "Musical Joke" is.

He wrote it! Nasty, huh?!

LOL.

81

Howard Shore: The Breaking of the Fellowship

(LOTR: Fellowship of the Ring)

82 @ 74 I can't find a decent performance of the 2nd movement of Beethoven's 7th symphony to link here, but damn that has soul.

 Jascha Horenstein is the BEST conductor for Beethoven, IMHO, and his 7th is stunning.

83 I'm a Blues guy.  I know nothing about Classical. It's very intimidating.  How can I get up to speed?












i'm a

84 Cathy @77

The Ode To Joy... hell yes.

Sorry to be so hard to ol' Amadeus but I've just never understood his appeal.  To borrow a phrase from "Immortal Beloved", it's just lots of "tinkling" to me.

85 Bruckner's Mass in E Minor is a pretty good one.

86 to -> on

87 Mozart's requiem makes up for a LOT of tinkling and too many notes.

88 Mozart? Copland? Beethoven?

Screw that noise, morons. It's Saturday night, and time to get down!

You'll thank me after you watch....

http://bit.ly/daAfKR

Or maybe not.

_{Which means you have no taste.}

89 In the David Weber Honor Harrington series of book country music is considered classical.

90 Any props for the great Stevie Ray will be echoed here.  The man was the best


Heh. There were submorons on the ONT last night who disagreed. One in particular in Hawaii who has an ass kickin' coming. 

91 Miss'80sBaby: Howard Shore's stuff from LoTR is gorgeous stuff. I love the Rohan theme from "The Two Towers" with the Norwegian fiddle in the background. Lovely. I've also long loved "Ashokan Farewell" (which Ken Burns played incessantly over his Civil War series on PBS). It's a Scottish lament or dirge that is one of the most beautiful modern pieces of music I can think of. (And it is a modern piece, not a Civil War era piece.)

92 Sacrilege; Lynard Skynard by Russians.

93

86 56. I am a giant Mozart nerd. I belong to the Mozart forum, I have a Mozart party with Austrian food and Mozart Jeopardy every year after my parish sings the Mozart Requiem for the All Souls' Day Mass, etc.
I know his birdie was named Vogel Star and I know what  his "Musical Joke" is....He wrote it! Nasty, huh?!LOL.

I was more curious because the Wiki article said it was debatable, & it is, after all, Wiki. It doesn't seem so far-fetched, since one does hear interesting stories about it. I think it's just more surprising because the lyrics sound so, um, modern (not the best word, but it's the best I could do).

94 88  Jascha Horenstein is the BEST conductor for Beethoven, IMHO, and his 7th is stunning.

Thanks for the tip.  I also recommend Riccardo Muti @ The Philadelphia Orchestra for some good Ludwig-ing.

95 94. I loved the Red Army Choir singing the old USSR national anthem.

"Let them sing! Let them sing!"

96

97 Howard Shore's stuff from LoTR is gorgeous stuff. I love the Rohan theme from "The Two Towers" with the Norwegian fiddle in the background. Lovely.

I would say both he and Patrick Doyle are among the few modern classical composers who I respect.

I've also long loved "Ashokan Farewell" (which Ken Burns played incessantly over his Civil War series on PBS). It's a Scottish lament or dirge that is one of the most beautiful modern pieces of music I can think of. (And it is a modern piece, not a Civil War era piece.)

That is a wonderful piece. PBS released the soundtrack for that series awhile back, & I have the song on my iPod.

97

Yeh, I tried. Point me at a particular YouTube vid and I'll try again. I'll fail, but still.

Posted by: Mama AJ at September 25, 2010 08:24 PM (XdlcF)

Forward to about 2:00 in

98 Monty; if you like Civil War era music try this group. They are probably the best there is at playing it "period".

http://tinyurl.com/325e7q8

99 I was busted several weeks back on the ONT for some reason or other. Anyway, here is a cool Jeff Beck (oh, pre-Van Halen) piece.

100 You'll thank me after you watch....

http://bit.ly/daAfKR

Or maybe not.


Holy crap.

That was....surreal.

101 Woah, woah, Gran!

We got Muti in Chi-town now, as of last week!


(I know, I know, you were speaking of recordings...)

102 Although Copland's neighborhood is much changed these days, Tom's Diner is still there with the original owner's son running it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z66rDVkaK4w

This is the Suzanne Vega a cappela version.

103 Oh, thank you! Will be looking that up later tonight.

FYI on the Horenstien....it's older stuff (50s, maybe?), and sounds best on vinyl. His 9th is the penultimate, again, my opinion.

104

for Lord of the Rings fans, Johan de Meij's LOTR Symphony (written before the movies) is pretty good, especially the first movement, "Gandalf".

105 For those SRV fans in the crowd: you ought to check out Jeff Healy's stuff. (He was the blind guitarist in Swayze's Roadhouse.) He was a fabulous blues player who unfortunately passed away not long ago from cancer.

106 Tchaikovsky: 1812 Overture

107 Somehow appropriate...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYywXhixVW0&ob=av2e

108 So umm I kissed a girl.

Posted by: Katy Perry at September 25, 2010 08:10 PM (uCjoj)

Was it Zoe or Abby Cadabby?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjRQ6VyG1Yw

109 99. The lyrics as written on Wiki really do seem modern and shocking - I guess it's easy to forget that people were absolutely filthy back when they were supposed to be so proper. Heh.
I have read that although "leck" does translate literally as "lick", the words should really be translated as "Kiss my ass", but who knows...I don't schpeak de Cherman.

110 But do you speak Austrian?

111 Vic: That's cool! I've also got all of Bobby Horton's stuff. Here's a link to him doing "Rose of Alabama" frailing-style on an old banjo. (He always plays with period-correct instruments; it's what gives his stuff such authenticity.) He has like ten CD's out now of Civil War era music -- Songs of the Union Army, Songs of the Confederate Army, and Homespun Songs of the C.S.A.

112

 Miss'80sBaby:

Howard Shore's stuff from LoTR is gorgeous stuff. I love the Rohan theme from "The Two Towers" with the Norwegian fiddle in the background. Lovely.

Posted by: Monty at September 25, 2010 08:32 PM (o2hlb)

The first time I heard that in the movie as they pan over the palace of the king, struck me right to the heart. Guess I have more Old English blood than I knew.

113

beedubya,

Eric Carmen "All by Myself"?

114 Sacrilege; Lynard Skynard by Russians.

Posted by: Vic at September 25, 2010 08:32 PM (/jbAw)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYFj67L0wIc

1976 live version of Tuesday's Gone. It's really eerie, but in honor of the late Leonard Skinner. I hope he's enjoying the house band in heaven.

115 For those SRV fans in the crowd: you ought to check out Jeff Healy's stuff. (He was the blind guitarist in Swayze's Roadhouse.) He was a fabulous blues player who unfortunately passed away not long ago from cancer.

Absolutely. (And he was only 41, bless him.)

Check out Joe Ely, as well.

116 Always liked Johnny Horton best.
And strangely, had a bizarre crush on him as a young girl.
Pretty sure he was already dead by then.

117 Monty; if you like Civil War era music try this group. They are probably the best there is at playing it "period".

http://tinyurl.com/325e7q8

Posted by: Vic at September 25, 2010 08:35 PM (/jbAw)

I had some computer games based on the Civil War with their songs as soundtracks. Catchy songs to burn Georgia with.

118 I think it's clear that Charlie Daniels and Lee Greenwood produce the best music. I sense mockery here. If you make fun of Charlie Daniels, I'll have to fight you. He's a fiddler par excellence, and a musician of considerable skill and subtlety. Not since "Jesu, Joy of Man's Desiring" has a song been so well-done as "When the Devil Went Down to Georgia". Lee Greenwood you can mock to your heart's content.

119 I have the Bobby Horton Homespun Songs of the CSA. Good stuff but I like the 97th better.

120

Well!   Rush w Neil Peart does it all for me thank you.

No other will do.

/ garrette

Is that all there is?

121 Holy crap.

That was....surreal.
Posted by: mpurinTexas (kicking Mexico's ass since 1836) at September 25, 2010 08:35 PM

Hope you checked out some of their other videos, mpur!

The Red Army Choir rocks, I tell ya!

122

You'll thank me after you watch....

http://bit.ly/daAfKR

Or maybe not

Jesus..that was real??...and not caused by the 'shrooms I had on my pizza tonight?

123 I think it's just more surprising because the lyrics sound so, um, modern (not the best word, but it's the best I could do).

For Morons, y'all are naive as hell. The 18th century gave us the Marquis de Sade, after all. They were right randy ol' buggers. Decadence is as old as mankind.

124

beedubya

Eric Carmen "All by Myself"?

Posted by: Mama AJ at September 25, 2010 08:41 PM (XdlcF)

We have a winnah!!!

125

116 99. The lyrics as written on Wiki really do seem modern and shocking - I guess it's easy to forget that people were absolutely filthy back when they were supposed to be so proper. Heh.
I have read that although "leck" does translate literally as "lick", the words should really be translated as "Kiss my ass", but who knows...I don't schpeak de Cherman.

Eh, as a general rule, people were not as proper in the so-called Golden Eras as we would like to think (with some notable exceptions of course). I guess it's another reason I shouldn't be so surprised, though perhaps it's because some of those encyclopedias about composers don't usually point to Mozart as being in the Top 10 Dirtiest Dept.

126 131.

 Hell yes, Marquis de Sade.

Smooth operator.

127 I cheated. I used my husband's brain. Dragged him in here and he got it in a couple seconds. Not that I was all like "Honeyyyy...I know this sounds familiar and I don't know whether it's because I know the classical piece or the pop song so come in here and tell me why I know it" or anything.

128 133. I can't recall exactly what it was, but there was a game Mozart used to play with his friends that I remember reading about and thinking, "Holy damn, that's nasty."

129 Cathy, LOL!

130

131 For Morons, y'all are naive as hell. The 18th century gave us the Marquis de Sade, after all. They were right randy ol' buggers. Decadence is as old as mankind.

Oh, I know they were; it's just that, when I think dirty, filthy composer, Mozart doesn't automatically come to mind. The lyrics are also written in a more modern style. So it's not so much the words as the way it's written. E.g., Shakespeare is absolutely filthy, but he gets away with it because he's now considered to so lofty and poetic.

131 I probably should have included the poor Frenchmen in my classical favorites, but Ravel and Bizet are the only ones who really appeal to me. And Maurice Ravel (a Basque) was spiritually a Spaniard.

132 Always liked Johnny Horton best.
And strangely, had a bizarre crush on him as a young girl.
Pretty sure he was already dead by then.

Posted by: Cathy at September 25, 2010 08:43 PM (xWFCX)

I have several Johnny Horton albums but this is the one I always keep coming back to.

http://tinyurl.com/2bnd8bt

133 Monty,
Love the Palestrina.  How about a little Monteverdi?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fcHn9Hm2jw

The sight of the Aussies playing period instruments and rehearsing in very casual modern dress is somehow pleasing to me.

134 Did someone say "Balm for the soul? "

Ah, here you go.  Long but oh so worth the wait - and no fair skipping to the end -- does one gobble one's cranberry-chocolate truffles?   Well, do ya?  Do ya punk? 

Part I     http://tinyurl.com/33aqh8u

Part II   http://tinyurl.com/33lkvzy

135

That was....surreal.

To put it mildly. Makes me want to watch capybaras being scratched.

136 I've always had a bit of a soft spot for Chopin, too.

137 Vic,

And THAT'S the one where he looked so damn sexy to my four year old eyes.

Mmmm, Johnny Horton.
A little teeth whitener and some Invisaligns and I'm ready if you're willin', baby.

138

136 133. I can't recall exactly what it was, but there was a game Mozart used to play with his friends that I remember reading about and thinking, "Holy damn, that's nasty."

Most of the stories I've heard involve him standing by his wife's bedside as she's giving birth, and he's holding the one hand while writing music with the other. They also say that they were once dancing in the corner of their house because they were short on firewood and they were trying to keep themselves warm.

Now, Beethoven, on the other hand, has always had a reputation of being rather filthy, what with the full chamber pots and stinking clothes due to be so absorbed by the music. Also remember a story that he once dumped a plate of veal on a waiter's head.

139 Shakespeare is absolutely filthy, but he gets away with it because he's now considered to so lofty and poetic.

I think he certainly wrote about and during times that were filthy to us now. Titus Andronicus gave me nightmares for weeks whenI was in the 8th grade. My mama had no idea what I was getting in to...it was Shakespeare after all!

And frankly, another The Bard is one I find very overrated, and I will also just come right out and admit I don't understand most of it without re-reading it.

140 This is one of my favorites
http://tinyurl.com/3a5dw2w

141 A word about "classical" music, too: we always categorize music from the Baroque, Romantic, and pre-WWII era as "classical". But I often wonder what music in a century or so will be part of the "classical" canon (assuming, of course, that there even is a commonly-accepted canon then). I'd like to think that American Jazz will survive, but I wonder -- so few people listen to it now. Symphonic music seems to be relegated to movie soundtracks, which means again that most people don't listen to it as music. Rock n roll? I don't see it, even the Beatles -- it's just not that well done, and it's gotten worse with every decade that's passed. Country and folk styles will persist because that's America's cultural music, but "classical"? I don't think so. I wonder what music teachers think of the landscape out there. It's easier than ever before to learn music -- not just an instrument, but music theory too -- but I wonder how many people actually do it. When I was a kid in the 1970's, most kids -- even poor ones -- were taking piano or violin or guitar lessons. Now, I hardly know any kids who are taking music lessons (though several of the girls take dance).

142 146.

Mozart wrote some twisted letters to a cousin of his, wherein he told her he wanted to "shit on her face and watch it drip down her chin."

(Sorry, ONT-worthy...)

His letters are blue as the sky...

143 LOVE Johnny Horton, too....I have a double album of his that is awesome. Can't remember the name of it, and am too lazy to go upstairs at the moment. But it rocks.

Chopin's Nocturnes are nice, but all-in-all, he is another tinkler to me.

144 Another very good Gershwin take that I have; this one by The Boston Pops with Earl Wild playing the piano. It is outstanding.

http://tinyurl.com/yyw2kc

145 Listen to the second movement of Rachmaninov's Piano Concerto #2 and tell me me what pop song is a blatant ripoff

I've listened to that so many times, especially during thunderstorms. It's such an amazing piece to see live, and after watching Shine, how could you pass up a Rachmaninov recital. Here is a video I found, though it ends abruptly and is a little off sync. But Evgeny Kissin gives a stupendous performance.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ud_wGMXRnQ

146

TD!!!..Oh, hell yep....

Cincinnati within two of Oklahoma......where the wind comes sweeping down the plain (It is a music thread after all)

 

 

147

Miss80sbaby-

Thanks for the Charlotte Church; her voice is what I imagine angels sound like.

148

But Evgeny Kissin gives a stupendous performance.

...and his hair just rocks!!

149

147 I think he certainly wrote about and during times that were filthy to us now.....And frankly, another The Bard is one I find very overrated, and I will also just come right out and admit I don't understand most of it without re-reading it.

Shakespeare was a curious man who was able to hide much in intricate riddles and language. (Enter the debate about who his audience was here.) What's interesting is to get versions of his works with multiple footnotes and they will tell you everything you did and didn't need to know. Lots of sexual imagery in each one of his plays.

150 Check out Joe Ely, as well.
Posted by: mpurinTexas (kicking Mexico's ass since 1836) at September 25, 2010 08:42 PM

Never liked that guy.

151

150 146. Mozart wrote some twisted letters to a cousin of his, wherein he told her he wanted to "shit on her face and watch it drip down her chin."

(Sorry, ONT-worthy...)

His letters are blue as the sky...

That makes some of Napoleon's love letters seem innocent and as pure as the driven snow.

152 . Rock n roll? I don't see it, even the Beatles -- it's just not that well done, and it's gotten worse with every decade that's passed.

I disagree. I believe that some will survive and be considered classical. Pink Floyd leaps to mind.

And there are too many soul moving guitar solos played by some of the greatest axemen ever to pick up the instrument that are just too good to fade away.

I always thought the Beatles were a tad over rated, but their music has already been translated to full orchestral movements, so it will probably be around as well.

153 159. Yeah, I've got a guttermind, and that makes me kinda wince.

154 Eric Satie's "Trois Gymnopedies" performed by Reinbert de Leeuw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7DBoiyBoJ8

155 Miss80sBaby and Cathy: Composers are almost always much bigger jerks than people think. Gustav Mahler and Richard Strauss were nominally friends, but they'd insult each other all the time. (And Alma Mahler was a slut who cheated on poor old Gustav, and Strauss was not above pointing this out at every opportunity.) Richard Wagner was an anti-semite and proto-fascist. Sibelius was an alcoholic who beat his wife. Composers as a group are even bigger jerks than novelists when you get into their private lives. I prefer to stick with the music and ignore their nasty personalities.

156

#147 There's a lot of jokes in shakespeare based off of the original story - which most these days are unfamiliar or inside jokes about Tudor times - which nobody just 'gets' anymore.

When seeing a performance done, its a lot easier to pick up the actor's tone and body language and pass over the unfamiliar words and phrases.

157 163. I dunno, there's a difference in Joo-hating and being filthy.
I think Mozart's filth just makes for a colorful personality.
Joo-hating, not so much.

158 Weren't Germans overall considered rather "earthy" as compared to the other Europeans?

And thanks, Miss'80sBaby, I'll try and find some footnoted works.

Charlotte Church's voice is certainly nice, but she sort of overdoes the vibrato.

159 Oh, oh, oh, one of my favorites:

Rachmaninoff's "All Night Vigil."

http://tinyurl.com/mgjptk

That's probably my second favorite piece of all time.

160 Hell yes, Marquis de Sade.

Smooth operator.

Posted by: Cathy at September 25, 2010 08:48 PM (xWFCX)

LOL I had a bipolar roommate many years ago who stole my library card among other things.  My mother was shocked to see the crazy bitch was a sadist even in her musical tastes.

161

Is that all there is?

Posted by: Peggy Lee at September 25, 2010 08:44 PM

No, Peggy, that's not all there is.  Some music gives you a Fever.

162 I disagree. I believe that some will survive and be considered classical. Pink Floyd leaps to mind.

Good music will always survive. So how do you filter out the good from the bad? If it is more than 20 years old and you still hear it being played on the radio or the satellite, if it is still selling, then it is good stuff.

The Beatles fall in that category in two different ways. Their stuff is still playing and other performers are still doing their works.

And yes, Pink Floyd will survive.

Now some most ALL of the hip hop crap will be doomed to the waste bins of life in short order.

163 I always thought the Beatles were a tad over rated

The Beach Boys blew them away, and they knew it.

164 No, Peggy, that's not all there is.  Some music gives you a Fever.

Posted by: huerfano at September 25, 2010 09:12 PM (No0N3)

I like all the old torch singers from the 40s and 50s and I have some Peggy Lee. But I like Jo Stafford, Rosemary Clooney, and Helen O'Connel more.

165 I'd like to think that American Jazz will survive, but I wonder -- so few people listen to it now.

Posted by: Monty at September 25, 2010 08:58 PM (o2hlb)

Jazz has always left me cold - all technique and no 'soul'. I've liked stuff from a lot of  categories, but this one just seems to miss something. And I actually tend to like more complex music, too.

In the movie the Commitments, where the Irish Soul band manager is fighting the tendency for the players to play Jazz instead of Soul, he describes it as "Jazz is musical wanking off - soul is from the heart".  Its a pretty funny description.

166 I like some of the Beatles' stuff, mostly their more classical leaning pieces.
What's the one song? "Sleep pretty baby do not cry, and I will sing a lullabyeeeeeeeeee"

That's nice.

Oh, and Walrus. I like that.

167

Jazz has always left me cold - all technique and no 'soul'. I've liked stuff from a lot of  categories, but this one just seems to miss something. And I actually tend to like more complex music, too.

In the movie the Commitments, where the Irish Soul band manager is fighting the tendency for the players to play Jazz instead of Soul, he describes it as "Jazz is musical wanking off - soul is from the heart".  Its a pretty funny description.

This.

And The Commitments is a great movie. Soundtrack is awesome, too.

168 What's the one song? "Sleep pretty baby do not cry, and I will sing a lullabyeeeeeeeeee"

Golden Slumbers from the Abbey Road album.

169 164 #147 There's a lot of jokes in shakespeare based off of the original story - which most these days are unfamiliar or inside jokes about Tudor times - which nobody just 'gets' anymore.

On a related note, the ability to convey such jokes makes me appreciate my local Gilbert & Sullivan society. So much of their work has been lost to time, especially what you mention in the above paragraph. My local society takes the time to explain those things, even sometimes by rewriting the lyrics w/ an explanation.

Speaking of G&S, D' Oyly Carte's John Reed:

I Am the Very Model of A Modern Major General

170 That's a great song and a great album.

171 Variations by Andrew Lloyd Webber Back in the day he recorded with Rod Argent among others. That's some cool sh!t there.

172 Did someone say "Beach Boys?" 

http://tinyurl.com/23c5szk

173 Bach Concerto for Two Violins aka the Double Concerto. Put your headphones on, crank up the volume, and go to another world. The Largo especially goes beyond my abilities to describe it. I can actually see the two musical strains twining together when I close my eyes. Sublime. Perlman and Stern have the best version, hands down. Available on itunes and CD, and on youtube (if you look it up).

174 (Abbey Roads, not Pinafore.)
Wait, come to think of it, both of those are great.

175 For the blues fans such as myself, there's a great, little known movie call Crossroads (no, not the one with that twank Spears in it).

It starts as a search for a lost recording by Robert Johnson and ends up in a guitar playing contest for a soul against the Devil's axeman, played by Steve Vai.

If you haven't seen it, rent it. It's a fun movie with an awesome soundtrack.

176 In the movie the Commitments, where the Irish Soul band manager is fighting the tendency for the players to play Jazz instead of Soul, he describes it as "Jazz is musical wanking off - soul is from the heart". I feel that way about a lot of modern jazz too, but a remedy for this is to listen to Miles Davis and his band play "So What" on Kind of Blue. Pure musical bliss. John Coletrane's "A Love Supreme" is another masterpiece. As for Soul...Joe B., whom I linked in the main post, did a killer version of Sam Cooke's Stop!. It's more of a Chicago blues wailer than pure soul, I guess, but it's a fine distinction to me.

177 184. Must be where Clapton gets the name for the Crossroads Festival.
I wanted to go to that; alas, I was about a hundred months pregnant at the time.

178 ...and his hair just rocks!!


Totally. He reminds me a bit of a young Billy Joel.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZh8YjbDiVk

179

171 Good music will always survive.... Now some most ALL of the hip hop crap will be doomed to the waste bins of life in short order.

...for which I'm incredibly thankful. So many members of my generation like to listen to that stuff, plus utterly depressing pop music. What's interesting, though, is that I keep seeing comments on more classical and classic music YT vids stating "Now this is music", & it's from people who say they usually listen to more modern genres.

180 For the blues fans such as myself, there's a great, little known movie call Crossroads (no, not the one with that twank Spears in it).

I have that movie on a DVD. Awesome it is and Rye Cooder is awesome.

181 If you haven't seen it, rent it. It's a fun movie with an awesome soundtrack. If that's the one with Ralph Macchio (the Karate Kid guy) in it, then I second that emotion. Any movie with Joe Satriani playing the Devil has a lot to recommend it. And Joe Seneca on the mouth-harp is excellent. (Fun trivia fact: Satriani actually played both guitar parts in the climactic showdown scene.) Coulda lived without Jami Gertz as the love-interest, though.

182 You know what I hate?

The caterwauling that goes on on American Idol, etc.
The people at work watch it.
God, it makes me want to kill myself.

183 Must be where Clapton gets the name for the Crossroads Festival.
I wanted to go to that; alas, I was about a hundred months pregnant at the time.

One of Clapton's most famous covers was of Robert Johnson's "Crossroads".

184 Gah. Steve Vai, not Joe Satriani. Man, I can't get shit right today....

185 I prefer Steve Vai on Stevies Spanking.

186 I feel that way about a lot of modern jazz too, but a remedy for this is to listen to Miles Davis and his band play "So What" on Kind of Blue. Pure musical bliss. John Coletrane's "A Love Supreme" is another masterpiece.

Posted by: Monty at September 25, 2010 09:22 PM (o2hlb)

Found a youtube video of Miles Davis. Still missing.

187 Yeah, I like that song very much.
How old is the movie? I want to see it now. Reckon Netflix has it?

188 #195 Sorry Monty. Its a personal preference. I can hear all the technique, but it isn't alive. Its like the difference between a real woman and a store mannequin.

189 Nurrrmind, found it on Netflix.
Available to stream, also.

Guess I know what I'm doing this evening...

190 Cathy: Crossroads came out in 1986. I found a DVD of it, but it'll probably be a little hard to find. Amazon probably has a used copy floating around. It may even be available as a digital movie from Amazon, if you only want to rent it and not buy it.

191 (Fun trivia fact: Satriani actually played both guitar parts in the climactic showdown scene.)



Really? Because Vai is an outstanding guitarist and I believe he and Satriani have performed that famous duel live several times.

192

Well Then Lets Go Dancing...And Break Out the Boooooze and have a ball.

If thats all.

There is.

193

In the movie the Commitments, where the Irish Soul band manager is fighting the tendency for the players to play Jazz instead of Soul, he describes it as "Jazz is musical wanking off - soul is from the heart".  Its a pretty funny description.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 25, 2010 09:15 PM

One of my favorite movies and it has a great soundtrack.

194 181 Lulz and altogether less weird than Dennis Wilson.

195 "I'm a Blues guy. I know nothing about Classical. It's very intimidating. How can I get up to speed?" As a music major in a former life, I would suggest starting with the 3 "B's" - Bach, Beethoven, and Brahms. My favorite piece of Beethoven's is the 2nd movement of his 3rd symphony (aka the funeral march): http://tinyurl.com/349qsha Try Beethoven Symphonies 3,5,7,9 (the odd numbers) Brahms Symponies #1-4. The third symphony is what I think is the most beautiful piece of music ever written: http://tinyurl.com/lm8usw Other pieces for a good survey: Handel - The 4 seasons, The Messiah, Watermusic Bach - Brandenberg Concertos Mozart : "Jupiter Symphony" (#41), Requiem Chopin: Nocturnes Rachmaninov - Piano Concerto #2, Variations on a Theme by Paganini Ravel - Piano concerto (NOT the overated Bolero) Rimsky-Korsakoff - Scherezade A lot of the stuff in the 20th century was crap but Prokoviev wrote some very cool stuff some of kinda heavy metal sounding - try here: http://tinyurl.com/q3yxk6 http://tinyurl.com/33dses8 He also did the movie soundtrack for the classic Eisenstein film Alexander Nevsky Shostakovich - I think John Williams ripped off his sound try these: http://tinyurl.com/27muyld http://tinyurl.com/39yk4ry http://tinyurl.com/cg9cro That's just a start!

196 Sorry Monty. Its a personal preference. I can hear all the technique, but it isn't alive. Its like the difference between a real woman and a store mannequin. Jazz can be an acquired taste. It came naturally to me, but it doesn't to everyone. And even I don't love all jazz; some I like, some I don't. I like the stuff called "bebop" and some big-band stuff, but fusion and "smooth jazz" leaves me pretty cold. I love Joe Pass, for example, but I doubt most here would care for his stuff. You might want to give Dave Brubeck and "Take Five" a shot, though. That's a really swinging tune. It's the most noob-friendly jazz I can think of -- it actually ran up the charts back when it first came out (1965?).

197 Crossroads came out in 1986. I found a DVD of it, but it'll probably be a little hard to find. Amazon probably has a used copy floating around.

I just checked, Amazon has it for 9 bucks in stock now. I thought I had it but what I had was the "sound Track CD" instead. I put it on my order list for the next time.

198 197. There's an Irish priest at my parish.
We were standing outside talking before Mass one day and a little old Irish woman walked up the stairs past us.
All she said was, "Hellooo, Father. Too ra loo ra loo ra."
Father's reply? "Hello! Too ra loo ra la."

She kept going and he turned back and continued the conversation.

I about peed myself.

199 Incidentally, I believe Crossroads has an AoSHQ connection in that it was directed by the same man who directed The Warriors, IIRC.

200 Because Vai is an outstanding guitarist and I believe he and Satriani have performed that famous duel live several times. I meant Vai, but yeah, word has it that he played both parts and then overdubbed himself playing against himself. I think he and Satriani played that piece a lot in their concerts afterward, though. I don't remember where I read that, though -- it might just be a rumor.

201

One thing great about watching Looney Tunes while growing up was the music..

..,little did we know was that we were getting a great intro to classical

How many times did we hear "Call to the Cows" as kids??

202 211. So true.

My daughter only watches old school cartoons because I can't stand the new stuff. Recently, we saw "Fiiiigaro figaro figaroooooooooooooo" - I LOL'd.

203

208 197. There's an Irish priest at my parish.
We were standing outside talking before Mass one day and a little old Irish woman walked up the stairs past us.
All she said was, "Hellooo, Father. Too ra loo ra loo ra."
Father's reply? "Hello! Too ra loo ra la."

She kept going and he turned back and continued the conversation.

I about peed myself.

LOL. That's just precious! I would have loved to watch that.

204

#206 Well a high school friend was pretty into it and we even went to a few clubs in Cincy. He even had a special Jazz voice he used when we were there.

I don't think it will change. Even listening to that Miles Davis just now gave the same sensation. Its like I can hear how it should go, but doesn't. Its not that I think its bad, its just broken somehow. Zombie music. Dead when it should be alive.

205 Time to call it a night folks. See ya'll at the book thread.

206 Yep, time for me to go too.
Night Vic!

GREAT thread, Monty.

207 205 "I'm a Blues guy. I know nothing about Classical. It's very intimidating. How can I get up to speed?"

Nice list, and I'd also add some simpler, prettier pieces to start with, too...

Schubert, Trio in E Flat (my all time favorite)

Brahm's shorter piano works

Pachelbel, Canon in D of course, ( but try to find a slower version than is normally heard.)

Boccherini ( I love cello)

Haydn in general is pretty easy on the ears.

Beethoven' 6th (The Pastoral) is my favorite, but it's definitely simple and just pretty...nothing grandiose like his others.

My main advice is don't be cowed if you don't like the so-called "Classics" of classical music.

208

LOL. That's just precious! I would have loved to watch that.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at September 25, 2010 09:39 PM (Yq+qN)

I was at a Civil War re-enactment camp in the 80s and on Sunday Morning they had an Irish priest running around yelling at the soldiers to get to Mass in full brogue. I think it was an actual priest, and a real mass once they got started.

I'm pretty sure a few years later I spotted the priest in the movie "Gettysburg" giving a pre-battle blessing to a Union regiment.

209
Funny how the greatest artistic talent resides in some of the most unpleasant people (as Salieri noted in disgust in Peter Schaeffer's Amadeus).

Please, please, please: don't take that overhyped piece of crap Amadeus seriously. When I saw it, I wanted to hurl my seat through the screen.

If you're interested in who Mozart really was, I strongly suggest you read Alfred Einstein's "Mozart", or (more recently published) Jane Glover's "Mozart's Women". Or better yet, a good edition of Mozart's letters: he was a gifted writer as well as the greatest musician ever to draw breath.

And MM: Handel never wrote a Four Seasons. You must be thinking of Vivaldi.

210 218 I was at a Civil War re-enactment camp in the 80s and on Sunday Morning they had an Irish priest running around yelling at the soldiers to get to Mass in full brogue. I think it was an actual priest, and a real mass once they got started.

I'm pretty sure a few years later I spotted the priest in the movie "Gettysburg" giving a pre-battle blessing to a Union regiment.

Something about that is just so touching.

211 Please, please, please: don't take that overhyped piece of crap Amadeus seriously. When I saw it, I wanted to hurl my seat through the screen. Amadeus wasn't about Mozart; it was about Salieri. And it wasn't about the real Salieri (who barely knew Mozart but was on fairly cordial terms with him by all accounts), but about that Salieri that lurks in all of us musical mediocrities. It's fiction, not history -- I knew that going in. Besides, if you want rotten musical hit-jobs, just watch Ken Russell's The Music Lovers. (Or don't -- it's not just bad; it's putrid.)

212 219 "And MM: Handel never wrote a Four Seasons. You must be thinking of Vivaldi." My bad... Not a violinist

213 Debussy "Claire de Lune" and a beautiful video to accompany it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlvUepMa31o

214 Jeez. I come to AoS, expecting to find a rowdy thread on the new, modern classic "Sharktopus" and what do I find? A discussion of symphonic music!

You Morons are a tricky bunch...

215 80

I threw this out the other day, but got no takers. Listen to the second movement of Rachmaninov's Piano Concerto #2 and tell me me what pop song is a blatant ripoff

Yeh, I tried. Point me at a particular YouTube vid and I'll try again. I'll fail, but still.

Celine Dion - All By Myself

216 Pergolesi's Stabat Mater is my single favorite classical piece.  Did it in choir.  I don't have a favorite composer, I just like far too many to choose.

Pretty version of the Stabat:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9A5_xwlPBas

217 For those interested in the movie Crossroads, it's available online free at Crackle.

218 Fur Elise.  Without a doubt my favorite piece of classical music.  So beautiful.

And arigatou for the Bonamassa!

219 lose and all alone

220 Mozart was good!