1 my sister in-law's grandma is a new yorker and said she'd rather have Spitzer doing prostitutes then the disaster that is Patterson

2

Newly elected New Jersey Governor Chris Christie promises to reign in spending, cut taxes and cut the state deficit upon taking the oath of office.

--Not to be overly persnickety, but it's "rein in," not "reign in."

3 So it is. Fixed!

4

Where's Patterson from again?

California?

 

(I know, I know...I'm from California and this all sounds too familiar)

5 For too long government has raised taxes and spent like drunken sailors.

I intend to radically change this to spending like drunken sailors and raising taxes.

6 Day of reckoning?  Never.

7 We prefer to "reign" in things.

8 my sister in-law's grandma is a new yorker and said she'd rather have Spitzer doing prostitutes then the disaster that is Patterson Posted by: YRM at January 19, 2010 02:37 PM (MxqA5) Either way, someone is getting fucked

9 So it is. Fixed!

Posted by: Dave in Texas at January 19, 2010 02:40 PM (WvXvd)

--Yeah, it would suck to have a governor who reigns in spending!

10 WTF? Aren't cigs like 10 bucks a pack there already?

11

 buck a pack cigarette tax hike ($210 million)

NY already is way up on the Laffer curve for cigarette taxes.  Any further increase on cigarette taxes will reduce income from that source. 

12 The funny thing about raising taxes.  The horses that pay it only choose to stay within the posts when the purse is worth the race.  If you start cutting from the purse the horses just won't run.

13

Hey kids, check Hillbuzz. the scum on the left are threatening our happy friends on a personal level. They could use our support and help.

Go Brown!

Cuck Foakely!

14 Have you noticed that Christopher Christie contains the word "Christ" twice?

I have.

15

 like a $465 million excise tax on corn syrup, a buck a pack cigarette tax hike ($210 million),

And they'll be left scratching their heads wondering why in the hell they aren't getting this money,  never understanding the law of supply and demand.  When you increase the cost of something the demand will drop.  Seriously has this ever worked?  Then of course remember that its not about balancing the budget but taking any extra money and spending it on new things that they shouldn't.

16 NY IS a laffer...and Commiefornia is barking at its heels.

17

I support the tax on corn syrup. I fucking hate corn syrup. Everywhere else in the world when I buy a Coke, it has sugar in it; here, it's got motherfucking corn syrup.

Plus, aren't the Caribbean countries which sell sugar, like, poor and stuff? Maybe if we bought more sugar they'd be less poor.

18 Ciggerettes are like 10 bucks a freaking pack in New York. WTF is this guy smoking?

19 Smokers will be paying $2.75 per pack in state taxes. The average price of a pack of cigarettes is currently $5.82 statewide, and about $8 a pack in New York City, Daines said.

20 Speaking of Hillbuzz, I was wondering a few days ago if Scott Brown, um, appealed to gay men in multiple ways.  Apparently so, judging from the "Hottie McAesome" sign they have reproduced there.

21 That said, taxing healthcare providers is MONUMENTALLY STUPID. The way Paterson is going, he might end up losing to Curt Schilling.

22

Posted by: BIG ROB at January 19, 2010 02:43 PM (K2iC2)

when they stop sucking up to Hillary and calling Burris the man who will save the union

23

Plus, aren't the Caribbean countries which sell sugar, like, poor and stuff? Maybe if we bought more sugar they'd be less poor.

You can thank the Democraps in congress for that. They have a strict quota on sugar imports to "protect Louisinanna sugar growers".  It has cause all the candy makers in this country to shut their doors and everyone to switch to fructose corn syrup.

 

24 Taxes: the cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems.

25

24 Taxes: the cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems.

Hey now that is alcohol.

26

Posted by: Zimriel at January 19, 2010 02:45 PM (9Sbz+)

--Precisely.  The sugar industry in the USA has such protections from imports that corn syrup is an unfortunate workaround soda manufacturers have adopted.  The loss of income to poor countries (like, ahem, Haiti) is the worst affect, but American jobs are lost as well (for example, as of a few years ago Life Savers are no longer made in the USA, but in Canada due to the artificially high cost of sugar).

27
Ya know,  up it that part of the country ya only gotta drive a little ways to get out of the state to buy a carton of smokes.

I think I'll open a cig shop in New Jersey.

28 More sugar, more cigarettes, lower taxes, no high-fructose corn syrup or politicians!

29 The funny thing about raising taxes.  The horses that pay it only choose to stay within the posts when the purse is worth the race.  If you start cutting from the purse the horses just won't run.

Posted by: WTFCI at January 19, 2010 02:43 PM (GtYrq)

--Or you get a black market.

30

Christie is the governor who had to endure "fattie" ads when he was running for office.

Bankrolled by the biggest FATCAT in the state: Jon "who moved my hedge fund?" Corzine.

31 YRM: "...she'd rather have Spitzer doing prostitutes then the disaster that is Patterson."

Decisions, decisions. Do you want AIDS or arsenic? What a pathetic lot. I suggest she take neither and seek life out of state.

32

I'm already boycotting corn and corn products until Nelson changes his vote.

Cigs are going into profitable to smuggle range. Cool.

33

18 Ciggerettes are like 10 bucks a freaking pack in New York. WTF is this guy smoking?

 

Obviously not ciggerettes

34

Tax on corn syrup?????WTF????

These morons fail to forget was that the likes of the Adams family smuggled molasses (bought from Spanish colonies) into the colonies to get around the British sugar tax.

idiots

35
Progressive economics = economic disaster.

36 er remember...not forget

37

Welcome to America, 2010. 

We all KNOW that cuts have to be made, and we are FURIOUS that our leaders haven't made the cuts... that affect someone other than us.  Just keep your hands off of my public transportation subsidies, my "cadillac" Medicare and Medicaid, my B-2 bombers, my corn subsidies, my "green energy" subsidies, etc.

Those are "necessities."

38
23

Plus, aren't the Caribbean countries which sell sugar, like, poor and stuff? Maybe if we bought more sugar they'd be less poor.

You can thank the Democraps in congress for that. They have a strict quota on sugar imports to "protect Louisinanna sugar growers".  It has cause all the candy makers in this country to shut their doors and everyone to switch to fructose corn syrup.

Screw all these sad-sack-o'-shit "farmers" who want to make a buck doing anything but farm.  I thought all the farming was done by evil corporations anyway.  Doesn't that make it more corporate welfare that's fuckin' up my candy 'n' sody pop?

39 'Progressive' means more and more, doesn't it?

40 I see New York is following California's example of the way to run your state into the ground.

41  Ciggerettes are like 10 bucks a freaking pack in New York. WTF is this guy smoking?

Posted by: Mr. Pink at January 19, 2010 02:45 PM (SqAkN)

Cigarettes from out of state.

42 "The way Paterson is going, he might end up losing to Curt Schilling." Yeah well thats just because stupid ignorant rednecks will just vote for him because he's a popular Yankees fans.

43 You may not have heard Scott Brown and Chris Christie's chants of how ineffective and cumbersome condoms are outside of San Francisco bath houses in the early 1980s.

44

 : Wizard of Obama.

"Yes, sir. So we'd like you to keep your promise to us."

45 Closing the link.

46 You can thank the Democraps in congress for that. They have a strict quota on sugar imports to "protect Louisinanna sugar growers".  It has cause all the candy makers in this country to shut their doors and everyone to switch to fructose corn syrup.
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You can really thank both parties for that.  Farming subsidies/protections are voted for by which ever party happens to run the affected state.  Yes, it probably trends more towards Dems' modus operandi, but it's really the system that's corrupt here.

47 I avoid corn syrup if possible. Except in Coke. Even some of the Mexican Coke has corn syrup now.

48 Yeah, in Jersey smokes are only $7 a pack. That's why I go to Delaware, wheer cigs are a relatively cheap $4.50. I see plenty of NY and NJ tags in the parking lots....

49

OT but has anyone checked out the video of the D woman in Lawrence passing out blank absentee ballots by a poll on MM's website?  Disgusting, in broad daylight.

 

I hope she gets arrested.

50 Look, bottom line: John Cougar Mellencamp has every right to refuse a performance for Chris Cringle.

51 Nah, the Hillbuzz guys have been pretty instrumental in reaching a segment of disaffected dems and I think they've done it well.  Are they preaching to the conservative choir?  No.  But they are some fanatically dedicated people and I believe they do deserve our support.  Despite the differences we may have with them, they serve the greater good.

52

Boston Globe, "Hey, I know!  Let's suppress the conservative vote and say it was an innocent accident!  Yeah, that'll work!"

http://tinyurl.com/ycyhepo

 

53 New Jersey? Never heard of it.

54

After watching an episode of Jersey Shore, I think that NJ could completely wipe out their entire debt by simply shifting all taxes to just one on hairspray.

EC aka "The Situation"

55

Patterson is  an idiot.

Why do LIBTARDS approve of GOVERNMENT profiting off of CANCER?

 

56

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at January 19, 2010 02:53 PM (hF8Tn)

here's other political positions she's taken just to give people a barometer on her thinking:

- She says Reagan was an ok president but overrated

- Says Clinton was just a typical Politician

- Has No Opinion On Dubya or HW

- Says Carter wasn't that bad and voted for him

- says Nixon was the best President in her lifetime but watergate messed him up

- Loves Kennedy & Eisenhower

- says Obama is Hoover 2.0

57 logprof: "I hope she gets arrested."

Yeah. Someone should do something 'bout that. Unfortunately, we aren't privy to the facts. But we can proceed with investigating that stalker who taped her. Justice must be served.

58

Posted by: logprof at January 19, 2010 02:49 PM (A+6fk)

after I tasted Pepsi throwback I was pissed that sodas didn't have real sugar, not only is it better tasting but less addicting too

59 50 I hope she gets arrested.

I hope your kidneys get arrested.

60 So my NJ property taxes will hold steady while my NY income taxes go up?  So I am only half f*cked?

Even the reliably liberal NJ TV stations are making a big, positive-sounding deal about Christie's inauguration.  They must have really hated Corzine. 

61

So Patterson says we've taxed and spent and used accounting tricks for too long.  Natrually what we need to do is PROJECT more CIGARETTE INCOME that we will never see, YET we'll spend the money anyway.

That ought to work out real good.

The FIRST thing every Governor should do is SLASH GOVERMENT Bureaucracy.

62 Tax on corn syrup?????WTF????

...so we subsidize the production of corn syrup with tax dollars (which may or may not be consumer dollars, since how many consumers don't pay any income taxes?) which makes it wicked cheap and encourages consumption, then collect tax dollars from the sale of corn syrup, which drives up the price and reduces consumption.  How about just getting the gov't out of corn syrup altogether and let it settle itself out?  Because it's none of government's fucking business how much soda I'm mixing with my rum.

Hey, Paterson is calling for reduced spending and cutbacks of state programs.  I don't think he actually believes in small government as much as he's taking shit from Barry, so he's doing the opposite of What Barry Would Do.  And the Assembly will make sure he doesn't get them.  But it's kinda refreshing. 

The new NY beer tax (effective 01/01/10) is killing me. 

63 YRM@57:

She sounds like one of them independents. Frankly, I have a hard time reconciling some of the selections. It's all over the map. Does her barometer always read "Mild with Hot and Cold mixed in"? Reagan : OK :: Carter : Not That Bad? Yikes. But she does have both Clinton and Obama nailed.

64 Oh, and for soda with real sugar look in the Kosher section.  Esp. with Passover coming up.

65 19 Smokers will be paying $2.75 per pack in state taxes. The average price of a pack of cigarettes is currently $5.82 statewide, and about $8 a pack in New York City, Daines said.

And they wonder why people drive to the Indian reservations to buy smokes in bulk.

66

Proof that America's education system collapsed some time ago.  Attending Journalism school leads to graduates being unable to connect dots, to draw logical conclusions or to ask probing questions, such as,  "What the f--k got us here in the first place, imbicile?"

http://tinyurl.com/yemxamp

 

67

Wherever I go in the Empire State, I see nothing to indicate that taxes are too high, and should not be higher.  I've looked high and low, and without greater tax revenue, there will be no light at the end of the tunnel.  I've watched the polls, and looked out for the poor and middle class.  I've seen pain, and I've seen triumph.  But, in my view, there is nothing more important than getting the needed revenue to see us through to the next fiscal year. 

Expect to see the fat cats scanning their corporations' books to look to see if they can cut some fat.  Working families will have to sacrifice, with a view to cutting down on unecessary expenditures.  And most of all, I will cut out waste, fraud, and abuse, wherever I lay my eyes on it here in Albany.

We can see this through, together.  There will be a brighter tomorrow.

68 @61 So my NJ property taxes will hold steady while my NY income taxes go up?  So I am only half f*cked?

Even the reliably liberal NJ TV stations are making a big, positive-sounding deal about Christie's inauguration.  They must have really hated Corzine. 
Posted by: Holdfast

Yep, I used to work in NYC and moved to NJ. Save a lot of money on taxes. The year I moved I had to File NY State, NYC, NJ and Fed. What a nightmare. If I was smart I'd move to Texas.

Optimistic about Christie, he's is staying consistent with his message.

69

Heather 65 , lo, for they are truly the Chosen People. Amen. (Except for Manischewitz. Yecch! What the hell do they put in that stuff?)

But I'd feel guilty buying up all the good sugary treats and leaving behind all those mournful jars of gefilte.

70 It's not just the sugar tariffs, it's the infinite subsidies for corn syrup, ethanol, and other corn products.  So the government is both making sugar artificially expensive and corn syrup artificially cheap.  Great work if you can get it.

71 Re: Hillbuzz, for now we all have the same goal. I am under no delusions that we will part ways at some point in the future, but right now it is an alliance where both sides understand what is at stake and how bad and determined the enemy is.

72

Ahem. Enough with the plus-sized pantyhose puppet....

73

You can really thank both parties for that.  Farming subsidies/protections are voted for by which ever party happens to run the affected state.

I specifically mentioned Dems from LA because of John Breaux who pushed those sugar quotas.  The R's were hap[py to give him those because he ofton "corssed over" to vote with them.

74

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at January 19, 2010 03:20 PM (hF8Tn)

yep, she's an actual registered indepedents, I find them annoying because they just go w/ whoever they didn't vote for the last time, when my brother tries to argue Republicans have been more succesful or how bad Carter was she starts talking about how Republicans are "just as bad", these are the people who helped get Obama elected (granted she voted for McCain), here's her voting history:

1956: Eisenhower

1960: Kennedy

1964: Johnson

1968: Nixon

1972: Nixon

1976: Carter

1980: Carter

1984: Reagan

1988: Poppy Bush

1992: Perot

1996: Dole

2000: Dubya

2004: Dubya

2008: McCain

75

It's not just the sugar tariffs, it's the infinite subsidies for corn syrup, ethanol, and other corn products.

What subsidies? There are no "subsidies" that I am aware of, only a requirement that a certain percentage of all gasoline be ethanol.

76 The new NY beer tax (effective 01/01/10) is killing me. 

Posted by: HeatherRadish

Making your own isn't that hard if you have the kitchen space, and it has a kind of Revolutionary angle to it as well.

77

YRM, the only one on that list who was not a liberal was Reagan.  How did that happen?

 

78

It's on - they're eating their own. This is from H/A:

The Coakley campaign is bridling at finger-pointing from the White House and Washington Democrats, and outside adviser to the campaign has provided to POLITICO a memo aimed at rebutting the charge that Coakley failed, and making the case that national Democrats failed her.

79 Vic 76 , but also we put tariffs against Brasilian ethanol. Thus pissing off the most powerful nation in the Southern Hemisphere, by the way.

80

The new NY beer tax (effective 01/01/10) is killing me. 

Posted by: HeatherRadish

Ha, it is 7 times higher in SC than NY (0.77 per gal in SC vs 0.11 in NY)

81 Geez Gov. Paterson, even a blind man can see you're spending too much.

82

Posted by: Vic at January 19, 2010 03:31 PM (QrA9E)

that's what happens when indepedents have the power, these folks voted for Obama and 1 year later are whining "he lied to us", no you guys refused to look at his record and fell for the charm and speeches

83

What subsidies? There are no "subsidies" that I am aware of, only a requirement that a certain percentage of all gasoline be ethanol.

Posted by: Vic

Um, these subsidies for instance.

84 There are no "subsidies" that I am aware of, only a requirement that a certain percentage of all gasoline be ethanol.

Either way the government's forcing our money to go to ADM et al by force of law.  It's just slightly more efficient this way since it doesn't go through the IRS first.

85

Boston Globe Posts Elections Results Showing Coakley Winning Tonight,

They Took It Down

86 79 That is some dippable goodness right there. In this case, though, I have to side with the national Democrats. Coakley's campaign was horrible. The Democrats abroad came through with as much turd-polish as they could spare.

87

but also we put tariffs against Brasilian ethanol. Thus pissing off the most powerful nation in the Southern Hemisphere, by the way.

Yep, those evil Brazillians make their ethanol from sugar beets and not corn so they must be limited.  It is actually cost effective to nmake ethanol from sugar beets where it is not for corn.

The corn BS is all politics and another "plum" given to Nebraska.

88 NY is a dying state, has been for decades. We've been hemorrhaging people for greener pastures for a long time, and the ones that are left keep electing the same assholes that made this happen.


The liberal base is truly stupid.

89

Um,these subsidies for instance.

Hum, could be.

90 @89, the f**ked up thing is when people leave that take their stupid ideas with them and infect other states

91 I just hope Patterson doesn't force out all the liberals into the outlying states.  Cali did that to us and it sucks (in two ways - I can't go back to Cali, but we get to deal with the imports).  Two states that need a swift kick to the rear and a takeover of the local governments.  I'm stuck wondering how both NY and CA can recover from the massive damage they have been taking.

92 This helps one man. Marcia Coakley.

93 You know who this helps---Mit Romney!  A Mormon in the White House!

94 94 , that shit never gets old. LOL

95
87 Zimriel
Democrats abroad came through with as much turd-polish as they could spare.

Are you infering that "turd-polish" is a democrat campaign staple?

96 @93 This helps one man. Marcia Coakley.

She's the village bicycle! Everybody's had a ride.

97

Posted by: Luca Brasi at January 19, 2010 03:02 PM (YmPwQ)

We see lots of out of state license plates in parking lots. 

Cigarettes, booze, etc.

No sales tax will do that for you.

 

98

I support the tax on corn syrup.

No, no, more taxes are not the answer. Less gov't would help. Fewer farm subsides, fewer quotas, etc. etc.

99 The details of my life are quite inconsequential... very well, where do I begin? My father was a relentlessly self-improving boulangerie owner from Belgium with low grade narcolepsy and a penchant for buggery. My mother was a fifteen year old French prostitute named Chloe with webbed feet. My father would womanize, he would drink. He would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy. The sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament.

100

Boycott corn.

Smuggle cigs.

Brew beer.

Say no to the Intolerable Acts.

101

The Coakley campaign is bridling at finger-pointing from the White House The Coakley campaign is bridling at finger-pointing from the White House

She's going to make Dede look like a gracefull, classy loser.

102

Basically, if you're in a state (or, in Canada's case, country) where everyone lives within about a halfhour drive to the border of another state, it's unwise to implement a sales tax.

Two states could set up a parallel structure. To me this sounds like what my Economics prof called a "cartel". We learnt in ECON 210 that cartels rarely last long before one conspirator shafts the other.

103 May I welcome you to Delaware, the home of tax free shopping? It's on the signs on the roads leading into the state (both of them).

104 And graceful, too. Possibly gracefule, even.

105 91 @89, the f**ked up thing is when people leave that take their stupid ideas with them and infect other states

Posted by: Eeyore at January 19, 2010 03:40 PM (LdYLm)

Yep, that certainly happens. But when you have people like state assemblywoman Susan John who was busted for drunk driving; The same Susan John who sat(may still) on the state assembly's committee for alcohol and drug abuse, not only get off basically scott free, but overwhelmingly re-elected, then you know there are a shit ton of idiots still here.

(yeah yeah run on sentence from hell, you know what I mean)

106 Blue Hen 104, what would you say to an annexation of the rest of the Delmarva Peninsula? It strikes me as weird that you occupy an arbitrary third of a well-bordered tract of land. And eastern Marylanders would be happy to get away from the DC / Baltimore population.

107 I'm just waiting for the day that some politician says with a straight face that they're going to increase revenue by $200 million by raising the cigarette tax and decrease health care costs by $200 million by banning smoking, for a net budget gain of $400 million.

108 NH is where all of Maine and MA come to buy their booze, beer, and cigarettes. Devolved Patrick has threatened to stop MA residents coming back from NH and fine them for shopping out of state. If you are paying attention, it means that the Gov'mint takes taxes, and then SUPERVISES where you spend the rest of your money... nice...

109

Brendan, I bet if you posted that idea on a liberal web site, you'd get a lot of support!

110

109 the Gov'mint takes taxes, and then SUPERVISES where you spend the rest of your money...

Sounds good to me! One must keep a tight rein upon those in one's charge.

And if you complain like that again, you're banned.

111 Blue Hen 104, what would you say to an annexation of the rest of the Delmarva Peninsula? It strikes me as weird that you occupy an arbitrary third of a well-bordered tract of land. And eastern Marylanders would be happy to get away from the DC / Baltimore population.

Posted by: Zimriel

I like it. It reminds me of the notion of "Delaware Free State", from Robert Heinlein's novel 'Friday'. We could move the tax free sign to the end of the peninsula and attract that off-shore crowd!

Second thought: Governance will be derived from the county that wins the Punkin' Chunkin' contest that year.

 

 

112 75: SHE was the one who voted for Bob Dole????

113 I make all of my major purchases in Delaware (it helps to have a relative living there).....except cars. Those are just too big for the tax states to ignore.

114

This is the thanks I get, - these governors act as if it's their money.

 

115 We'll see if Christie follows through, he can't exactly mind control congress, but he can veto increases at least. But

"mistakes of the past, the squandering of surpluses, the papering over of deficits, the relying on gimmicks to finance unsustainable spending increases has led us to the breaking point,"

That all sounds pretty valid and very true... but is pulling more money out of the New York economy and encouraging people to invest elsewhere and move away really going to help?

116

Here is the way local government works.

SC used to have the highest property tax in the country on automobiles and boats.  People raised hell about it.

The State legislature passed a law last year that raised sales tax by 2% and limited the property tax on autos, as well as stripped the school tax from property tax on autos and your home (only one that you live in).

Well our county couold not stand that. So they limited the tax AND then added a huge fee on top of another fee they already had.

The tax on my 13 year old F-150 went from $75 to over a hundred.

And rthe sales tax is now among the highest in the country now. IN town (which has an addional 2 cents) the sales tax is 10.5%.