1 ersta mahn

2 Donation done.  It's good to support the 'little platoons' that really make the world go round.

3

Now damn it all to hell.

I was having one of those mornings where it was enjoyable to hate everyone and to give them the look of death if they dare look me in the eye.

Then you have to go and post something like this.

4 This is another program I have created. At a time when Bush didn't care I came through again.

5

Figuratively jumps up and down and raises hand, cuz Medicare won't approve me.

Where's my free Obamacare?

6 what a lovely man.

7

I don't understand.

Why does Medicare deny wheelchairs to disabled people when they clearly need them?  I thought Medicare was the end-all, be-all healthcare solution that provides for everyone.

Not snarking.  Genuinely curious.

8 You basically have to bankrupt yourself to get help from the govt unless you are a politically protected class, but then you can participate in the graft and corruption.

9 If you can stumble around your house aided by walls for support, Medicare doesn't care if you can't make it outside.

10

and to give them the look of death if they dare look me in the eye.

 

I wasn't lookin at yer eyes Lacey   

11 Why does Medicare deny wheelchairs to disabled people when they clearly need them?  I thought Medicare was the end-all, be-all healthcare solution that provides for everyone.

Same reason Medicare denies your children coverage because you "make too much money" even though you're drawing unemployment and can't afford health insurance or a visit to the doctor.

12 Medicare refuses tons of needy people care in every way you can imagine.

My understanding is that if you can take a few steps or if you can stand- even if it's only to hold yourself up for a minute or two, you are not eligible. Obviously that's not the same thing as what most of us consider essential mobility.

Anyone else may correct me if I am wrong.

13 As to the "why doesn't Medicare/ the V.A. provide wheelchairs" thing, mostly this is done on an income basis. Welcome to the wonderful world of entitlements. I work at a V.A. hospital, and for every combat wounded vet I see in a (government provided) wheelchair, I see 10 fatasses who could walk on their own if they lost 100 pounds. Sound harsh?

14 just forget that FICA thing on your paycheck, thats for somebody else yet to be determined.

15

Done. 

 

Oh, and as to " I thought Medicare was the end-all, be-all healthcare solution that provides for everyone"

No, it's not, er, well yes, it's portrayed* that way, but it's not.  Surprised?

 

^{*in the media, where Medicare is often related to skittles & unicorn farts...}

16 If you need a wheelchair, buy one. Why should the government pick my pocket to give you anything?

17 $145.71 with free shipping from Amazon.com...

18 We have to deal with Medicare all the time here at The Firm and let me say between the corruption, the completely incomprehensible denials and the paperwork, I can't believe anyone's claim ever gets paid.

Donated.  Thanks for bringing this to Moron Nation's attention.

19 See George Bush screwed this up. Rest assure I am working on this with Sexcratary Sebilious. I will solve this through higher taxes, a panel breakout, hire a new wheelchair czar, by talking to the EU.

20 If Ace wants to delete this, I understand completely.

Delete this?

Hell, if Ace were any type of smart businessman, he would BAN your ass from this site, completely!

Kids and Vets getting wheelchairs?

Harrumph!

*Glares*

*Folds arms*

*Surreptitiously looks down to check what is in the PayPal pocket*

21

So let me get this straight...

Medicare will deny a disabled person a wheelchair if they can barely make the effort to stand up or take a few laboured steps?  Does that really count against their claim?

Is Medicare worse than a private health insurance company in terms of denial or services?

22 If you need a wheelchair, buy one. Why should the government pick my pocket to give you anything?

Yes, we can debate whether there should be social programs, but the fact is there is one, and its supposed to be there to help the truly needy, so they are already picking your pocket to fund salaries of govt workers so they can deny proper claims and give that graft to cronies.

23 Old Tom, these are not light scooters for people who can easily get in and out of them.

Dave deals in chairs in the 10K+ range. The kind made for people who are profoundly weakened or incapacitated.

He customizes those chairs for quadraplegics who need a chin-steer setup and rotating/ reclining seats, for example.

24 And by the way, I am not at all opposed to what David Heim is doing as a private citizen. But as to the whole, "big bad government won't give these poor people free stuff" thing, meh.

25 MOTORIZED wheelchairs?  Must be for those rich, spoiled handicapped people, who don't want to do any work, and just want to sit in their wheelchair and take it easy.

26 Is Medicare worse than a private health insurance company in terms of denial or services?

Medicare denies more claims than any private health insurance company. FAR more.

http://bit.ly/pzfWB

27

Come down to Atlanta, where half the black people in their early 40's scoot around in motorized wheelchairs in between the bus stops that are only about 40 feet apart (I kid you not) because they weigh 400 lbs.  You'd be surprised what Medicair will provide you when you vote the right way.

Anyway, donation done, lauraw.  Thanks for the post.

28 And lauraw, I'm pretty sure the V.A. is not refusing to provide that level of equipment for our combat disabled vets. I have less compassion, however, towards some guy who served in 'Nam 40 years ago, came home physically healthy, has since blimped up to 400 pounds and lost his legs due to complications from chronic alchoholism and untreated diabetes. Of course, there's always PTSD to blame...

29

13 As to the "why doesn't Medicare/ the V.A. provide wheelchairs" thing, mostly this is done on an income basis. Welcome to the wonderful world of entitlements. I work at a V.A. hospital, and for every combat wounded vet I see in a (government provided) wheelchair, I see 10 fatasses who could walk on their own if they lost 100 pounds.

Sound harsh?

No. Sounds accurate. The same could be said of the lardasses taking up handicapped parking spaces. If their goddamn fat asses were starved off for about 6 months they could get around like everybody else. I have little sympathy (read that none whatsoever) for the criminally fucking obese.

30 Posted by: Old Tom at May 14, 2010 12:39 PM (y/1rz)

Really?  Kind of bitter, aren't you, Tom?

31 Is Medicare worse than a private health insurance company in terms of denial of services?

Yes.

Much worse.

They can also rob your spouse and reduce him/her to the basest level of penury should you need to avail yourself of their services for an extended period of time.

Insurance companies can't do that.

32 Bitter? OK, sure. Doesn't necessarily make me wrong, though...

33  Medicare denies more claims than any private health insurance company. FAR more.

That's because Medicaid supplies durable medical equipment to means-tested consumers. Why is Medicare restricted in this area of purchasing? Because Republicans demanded that people with means who receive Medicare ought to pay. So, this is why people who suffer mobility disabilities prove indigency in order to enroll in Medicaid.

Thanks, Republicans!

34 Thanks, guys. This guy has been doing an angel's work and receives little compensation for it. He just always turns around and plows everything back into helping others.
His motivation and selflessness have been so inspiring to me. It would wound me to see him fail over money, when he's given hundreds of thousands of dollars away over the years without a moment's pause.

35 #33 Yer fukkin' welcome. Now go pork yerself.

36 I think you are all racist piglets. Those fat slobs on food stamps have bad knees from eating pork rinds and chicken skin. Do you have no passion you racist white cracker homophobic rich selfish SOB that hates all persons of colour. I am telling Presidence Oblama and this will end !!!!

37  your spouse and reduce him/her to the basest level of penury should you need to avail yourself of their services for an extended period of time.

Fucking knuckleheads, yammering about in idiotic generalities to prove an idea installed in their brains by teevee.

38

That's all I got to say.


That's all you need to say.

39 Praise Obama for President Allah !

40  This guy has been doing an angel's work and receives little compensation for it.

Point him to the nearest State Medicaid Plan.

Fopr fuck's sake!

41

Well, it looks like eggmcmuffin has found another roach hole to climb back in.

Hi, erg. How are things down at the bath house?

42 Nope, doesn't make you wrong.  Just remember, though, everyone's situation is different.  For every 10 fatasses you see on a hoveround, paid for by Uncle Sam, there are another 10 that genuinely can't get around, for reasons other than an affinity for cheez doodles and Pepsi.  And some of them don't have anything close to the money needed for a state-of-the-art motorized wheelchair.  Hell, they don't have the $149.71 for the one from Amazon - I'm not suggesting that you're wrong, but I DO think the Medicare/Medicaid program does a lousy job of prioritizing. 

43 Is Medicare worse than a private health insurance company in terms of denial or services?

Oh hell yes.  Hell.  Yes.  See, at least with private health insurance companies, there's always the threat of a lawsuit if the company doesn't pay under the terms of the policy.  Filing suit tends to sharpen the minds of the insurance company very quickly.  You can't sue Medicare for not making that payment.  So no matter how idiotic the denial is, there's no recourse other than fighting with Medicare for years over getting it paid. 

True story - a few years back we were helping a client get some bills paid.  Medicare was suddenly denying claims based on the client not being eligible for Medicare.  He was 97 years old.  After, no lie, being transferred to 17 different people over the space of three hours, I finally got someone to admit that there was a typo for his age.  A Kafkaesque discussion then ensued when I asked how this correction would be made.  It was simply unreal.  It took 7 different forms and three months to get a freaking typo changed. 

Yeah, I hate Medicare with the passion of 10,000 burning suns.

44 I DO think the Medicare/Medicaid program does a lousy job of prioritizing.

You do "think," don't you?

Even in a knucklehead shithole like Texas, the state medicaid plan furnishes excellent equipment.

But you have to be poor.

45 One nice thing about erg, he's like a snail. He carries his home on his back. So wherever he goes becomes a shithole.

46 Right, Erg. Because Medicaid is going to help run David's business while he's sick. Or run it for him so that he puts more money in his pocket instead of helping others.

You fucking dipshit. This is not a right/left issue. This is about helping a wonderful person. A person who may be a lefty as far as I know. I don't know his political persuasion, and I don't remotely give a fuck, either. I like what he does with his life and I am willing to help him. Period.

47 erg won't be donating.

48 Even in a knucklehead shithole like Texas, the state medicaid plan furnishes excellent equipment. But you have to be poor. You did donate, didn't you?

49 #43  True story - a few years back we were helping a client get some bills paid.  Medicare was suddenly denying claims based on the client not being eligible for Medicare.  He was 97 years old.  After, no lie, being transferred to 17 different people over the space of three hours, I finally got someone to admit that there was a typo for his age.  A Kafkaesque discussion then ensued when I asked how this correction would be made.  It was simply unreal.  It took 7 different forms and three months to get a freaking typo changed.

Wouldn't be better if all health insurance was modeled after Medicare?  You'll be able to keep your own doctor, after all.

50 I'll send him some $.

Because Medicaid is going to help run David's business while he's sick

No, lauraw. Under the new legislation, David can receive Medoicaid at 150% of poverty for awhile. He also has 60 months of work eligibility to shelter his incvome.

Fucking welfare cheat.

51 Ergie, put your money where your mouth is and donate.  You may have to give up some World of Warcraft time, but it'll be worth it.  Or you could ask your mom for an increase in your allowance.

52

I make ten bucks an hour. So my donation is a hundred bucks.

 

 

53 Donation done. Next?

54 Under the new legislation, David can receive Medoicaid at 150% of poverty for awhile. He also has 60 months of work eligibility to shelter his incvome. What section of of the bill was that in?

55

You do "think," don't you?

Even in a knucklehead shithole like Texas, the state medicaid plan furnishes excellent equipment.

But you have to be poor.

So you're suggesting that money from Medicare should be diverted to provide "free" equipment to the wealthy?

Why do you hate poor people?

56 Christ erg, try not to be a shithead ALL the time. Only be a shithead 90 percent of the time and see if maybe you feel better about yourself.

57 Done.

58 #54   What section of of the bill was that in?

He/she/it made that up.

59 Ergie, I donated.  If I can do it, so can you.  You claim to be a tolerant lib, put your money where your mouth is.

60 58 #54 What section of of the bill was that in? He/she/it made that up. For reals? I'm trying to learn stuff here. These 1,000+ plus page bills are rough sledding for an amateur.

61 Why is Medicare restricted in this area of purchasing? Because Republicans demanded that people with means who receive Medicare ought to pay. So, this is why people who suffer mobility disabilities prove indigency in order to enroll in Medicaid.

And your plan is???

Seriously, fucking sod off!

Yeah, Republicans instituted means testing for Medicare services, just because they are right mean bastards who like to kick puppies.

Lord knows, there's a whole stash of money sitting around, waiting to be showered on Medicare/Medicaid recipients willy-nilly but for the greedy stinginess of Republicans.

I mean, haven't most people on Medicare contributed a boat-load of money to the system over the course of their working life?

There must be piles of it in D.C. just waiting for redistribution, doncha think?

You know what kind of person enjoys watching people prove indigency?

Case workers.

Gives Andy Stern more dues paying members.

Democrats just loves them some vulnerable Medicaid recipients.

Why else would they want to put us all on Medicaid?

62 I am glad that President Obama has started this program. Three cheers for the most compassionette President since FDR !! :-)

63  1001-and following sections.

Work trial period is different, existing benefit permitting Medicare recipient to shelter income.

64 So erg, you're just begging us to call your boss?

Do you not like your job?

65 done

66 I hope you spend the next year memorizing that piece of shit erg. Because it's just going to be a memory the year after. Suck on that leech.

67 1001-and following sections In HR 4872?

68
Medicare sux because you rich pricks hide your money to get some.

Free Obamacare rocks

69 Great story and link Laura.

70 donation made. Thanks for bringing his need to my attention.

71 Heh.

I finally found the one instance where I hope some sleaze-bag "Trusts" attorney finds a client.

I hope he finds you erg and explains all of the really sophisticated ways that you can shelter your income.

And, in just this one instance, I will laugh and laugh and laugh when your state gets wise to all of the income that has been sheltered and how and then changes the rules.

Retroactively.

72 No, lauraw. Under the new legislation, David can receive Medoicaid at 150% of poverty for awhile. He also has 60 months of work eligibility to shelter his incvome.

Fucking welfare cheat.

Yes, by all means, let's turn a thread about donating to a cause that donates wheelchairs to the needy into a bash fest.  Because that sure helps defeat the notion that every single area of life is now politicized.

I agree with lauraw, I don't give a crap about the guy's politics.  I don't give a crap if the guy is a flaming Commie and Kennedy supporter.  I don't care.  He's doing good work and that's all that is important. 

73  I will laugh and laugh and laugh when your state gets wise to all of the income

Oh yeah. Medicaid leaches all swing from chandeliers and fuck super models.

Amazing, the  intraknucklehead contempt.

You hate yourselves.

74

fuck you, erg. Fuck you with the hate of a dimension that does not exist by an undiscovered color scheme.

 

75 72 No, lauraw. Under the new legislation, David can receive Medoicaid at 150% of poverty for awhile. He also has 60 months of work eligibility to shelter his incvome.

Fucking welfare cheat.

Yes, by all means, let's turn a thread about donating to a cause that donates wheelchairs to the needy into a bash fest.  Because that sure helps defeat the notion that every single area of life is now politicized.

I agree with lauraw, I don't give a crap about the guy's politics.  I don't give a crap if the guy is a flaming Commie and Kennedy supporter.  I don't care.  He's doing good work and that's all that is important. 

Posted by: alexthechick at May 14, 2010 01:36 PM (8WZWv)

You shouldn't feed trolls, they keep coming back for more.

76 My God, are you still talking?

77 #72  + 10000

btw, Rush is talking about Holder "radical Islam" aversion now. 

/Found a way to listen under the collective noses of my co-workers.

78  Do you not like your job?

You make me laugh.

79

erg:

 

please join my site. You would fit right in with my new cast of heroes, such as Cato the Elder and KKKilgore

80 Oh yeah. Medicaid leaches all swing from chandeliers and fuck super models.

You do know there's a difference between MediCARE and MediCAID right?  Just checking. 

And, sweetie, trust me, I don't hate myself.  I know that I'm fantastic.

You shouldn't feed trolls, they keep coming back for more.

It gives me a nice outlet for The Rage though. 

81 Sorry alexthechick.

You are right.

Didn't realize it was erg when I first went off.

*Blushes and grinds toe into sand*

82

You make me laugh.

I don't blame you for not liking your job erg. I wouldn't like picking up used condoms floating in bathwater either. I hope you wear gloves.

83 80 Oh yeah. Medicaid leaches all swing from chandeliers and fuck super models.

You do know there's a difference between MediCARE and MediCAID right?  Just checking. 

And, sweetie, trust me, I don't hate myself.  I know that I'm fantastic.

You shouldn't feed trolls, they keep coming back for more.

It gives me a nice outlet for The Rage though. 

Posted by: alexthechick at May 14, 2010 01:43 PM (8WZWv)

Anger is the path to the dark side. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering. I sense much anger in you.

84 While I don't know exactly what happened...uh...its uh clear that David Heim....uh.....acted stupidly in giving dangerous second-hand products away that did not pass a government inspection to approve their safety....uh....because your government is the wheelchair inspectors that...uh...inspect wheelchairs......and their jobs are union important to the security of our nation.....

85 Great story!  Thanks for sharing.  I wish I contributed a fraction of what this guy does every day to helping make things a little easier for those who really need it.

86 Anger is the path to the dark side. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering. I sense much anger in you.

Funny, someone else observed that I'm Palpatine today.  Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go blast lightning from my hands at the copier. 

87 Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go blast lightning from my hands at the copier.


HA HA HA HAAA
Does that work? Or just feel good?

88 If you need a wheelchair, buy one.

And now that we have HCR[sic], it's going to cost 2.3% more.  The kind, compassionate Democrats added an excise tax.

89

I bought a wheelchair at a garage sale years ago while I could still make it outside, so I don't actually need Medicare to help me. Foresight into my condition helped  me tons. However, I don't qualify for Medicare because I'm too young, plus my "condition" is one that Medicare makes it hard as hell to get approved for (MS). I found out about the "able to get outside' condition for approval when I tried to buy a motorized chair.

As for being a lazy ass who wants a "motorized" chair, MS makes me extremely weak in my arms, as well.

Fuck Medicare anyway. It's the good deeds of private citizens that this country needs.

90

SO Little Miss know-it-all-Laura W! What your trying to tell us is that caring for our neighbors is not the governments job?? Are you trying to tell me that compassion and charity start at home, in the church and in your own community? That big government is not the answer to all of our ills and that somehow right wing, gun toting, racist, bible thumpers are suddenly going to care about the plight of anyone but themselves??!!11!!111???

Surely you jest.

 

        

91 Fuck Medicare anyway. It's the good deeds of private citizens that this country needs.

Oh, you'll learn.

You get durable equipment from Medicaid, if you are eligible.

92 Does that work? Or just feel good?

It feels fantastic.  And it's not like I could break the copier *more*.  I swear, it's out to get me. 

93 For years my wife (Maybe the only conservative social worker on the planet) collected used handicap toilets, safety bars, walkers. etc. as they came available. (she worked in hospice) She and I parted out and refurbed 'em as they hit the garage, and passed 'em on to non-profits. I often met great folks in their homes while installing some of the equipment. We never did organize anything near as extensive as David Heims' operation, but every bit helps, plus there's no way to measure the warm fuzzies of pitching in. Best wishes to Mr. Heim, hope he carries on with much success.

94 Alex: save the hate for me. I have a whole reservoir waiting to burst along the fucking countryside that is erg's fuckfistingly fuckedup fuckheadedly fucked up fuckdiggler of fuckitude and fuckheadedness

95 Those who argue for single-payer insurance based on expansion of Medicare really ought to read about how claims for wheelchairs are handled, and how the process is set up to delay and deny as long as possible, and to intimidate or punish claims outside arbitrary cost-control guidelines. http://tiny.cc/t3dfm Suing won't be an option. Recourse in the state legislature won't be an option. Just think about it.

96 Done. Will also lift my glass to him and his health tonight. Cheers!

97 You are the most wonderful buncha Morons ever assembled.
Thanks so much.

98 95 Suing won't be an option. Recourse in the state legislature won't be an option. Just think about it.

 As the FEMA employee told my husband when they fucked us over after the '94 Northridge quake "Honey, we're the federal government. We can do whatever we want."  Exact quote.

I helped my mother through the Medicare process for 2 wheelchairs, one manual and then one electric, with no problems, even though the chairs were ordered only 2 months apart.  Scooter store handled all the paper work; I only needed to take her to her doctor for the recommendation/prescription.  She was approved quickly, maybe because her severe arthritis left them little wiggle room for denial.  After reading this thread I am beginning to think I just got really lucky.

99 I could use a few bucks.  Just sayin'.

100

While I'm at it, what's with this "age-ism" and social security/Medicare? Isn't that descrimination by definition?

If someone has worked for a bare minimum to qualify and receive social security benefits at retirement age, they still have it made in the shade with Medicare (like my aunt who quit work at 21).

I'm making an argument for government healthcare, it seems, but damn it, this is government-sanctioned discrimination!

My consistency-minded ways haunt me.

 

 

 

 

101

Hey peeps on a related topic The VA has a program called HISA that gives  a onetime 4500 grant to vets to install accessability options to your residence.ie widening doorways,ramps or accessable tub or shower gear. Your injury or limitaions don't need to be combat related and the really cool part is you can even be a RENTER! If you live in tyhe TriState area of NJ,PA or DEL call Todays Bath Systems at 856-503-8677 for installation issues

102

I'm a regular user posting under an alias because I don't want sympathy or flames (search my hash if you care enough) Besides I'm late to this thread and few will read this.

I had a serious accident while on active duty that left me a quad, similar to Christopher Reeve, though I can breathe on my own and have some arm movement.

The VA pays me for EVERYTHING!  Any hospital care, any equipment (including my motorized wheelchair) drugs, and I still get a VA pension.  Even after ALL that I still get some help from medicare because of my disabilty under SSDI if I ever need to buy something the VA doesn't carry. I turn down a lot of care because I feel guilty for all the help I get.

There is a TON of government help out there.

103 I don't blame you for not liking your job erg. I wouldn't like picking up used condoms floating in bathwater either. I hope you wear gloves.

Posted by: maddogg at May 14, 2010 01:44 PM (OlN4e)

maddogg,

He bobs for them apples.

104

Lascivious Teabagger  Erg:

How nice of you to take time out of your busy day just to come on here and show everyone what a little bitch you are.  Now back to work....your boss needs another blow job.

105

There is a TON of government help out there.

Posted by: navyvet at May 14, 2010 03:47 PM (j/wD+)

Our main concern is that the TON of government help is given to those who really need it; not the welfare pros who suck off the public teat and pass it on to their 15 kids like a fucking family heirloom.  We veterans paid for VA care through our service. I'm a retired Army NCO. I go to the VA now and then. Thankfully, I'm in good health.  

106 86 Anger is the path to the dark side. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering. I sense much anger in you.

Funny, someone else observed that I'm Palpatine today.  Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go blast lightning from my hands at the copier.

GOD everythime she does that i get wood

107 Laura, I was just thinking yesterday about writing a comment admiring your work, but never got around to it. I think your writing is smart and hilarious. I'm glad to have the opportunity to put a few bucks where my mouth is.

108

THANK YOU TO EVERYONE.

 TO THOSE WHO THINK SELFISH, I HOPE YOU NEVER ARE IN THE POSITIONS THAT YOU NEED HELP OR BECOME DISSABLED,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,YOU ARE WEAK. YOU COULD NEVER MAKE IT.

DAVE "THE WHEELCHAIR GUY"

109 <a href="tel">tel'>http://www.tel-orgu.com">tel örgü</a>,
<a href="tel">tel'>http://www.tel-orgu.com">tel çit</a>,

110 You might be wondering about while you are choosing the right wheelchair for you to buy. Of course, there are varieties of used wheelchairs which are available in the market these days.