November 23, 2010
— Open Blogger From Gerard Van der Leun at American Digest comes this painful, yet fascinating reminder of what happened in
Watching it, I kept thinking of the Obama Administration's handling of just about every major issue over the past few years. What are your nominees?
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Posted by: Guy Fawkes at November 23, 2010 08:20 AM (JcRgg)
I nominate the 3 letter word: J-O-B-S. Other mentions might include: olympics bid, trade agreement with Korea, health care, beer summit, going after the chamber of commerce, TARP.....nevermind....it goes on and on and on
Posted by: dagny at November 23, 2010 08:22 AM (2GOHX)
Posted by: joncelli© at November 23, 2010 08:22 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: dogfish at November 23, 2010 08:22 AM (Ncv/n)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at November 23, 2010 08:23 AM (Cm66w)
Posted by: Al Gore at November 23, 2010 08:23 AM (2YgNG)
Posted by: Grug, Moby Of Doom at November 23, 2010 08:23 AM (Hu/Da)
Posted by: dogfish at November 23, 2010 12:22 PM (Ncv/n)
--Hs that sock been up to no good?
Posted by: logprof at November 23, 2010 08:24 AM (CE2wR)
Posted by: Grug, Moby Of Doom at November 23, 2010 08:25 AM (Hu/Da)
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at November 23, 2010 08:26 AM (JcRgg)
Yep, a Kenyan from Hawaii might recognize a Slurpee when he sees it, but when it comes to actually driving in one, he would not be your first choice.
If only we could find someone with SnowMachineTM experience...
(as Huck & Mitt scamper for their Skidoo photo ops)
Posted by: comatus at November 23, 2010 08:27 AM (hrwMe)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 23, 2010 08:27 AM (SB0V2)
Posted by: WalrusRex at November 23, 2010 08:28 AM (xxgag)
Conditions today in Portland aren't quite that bad, but I'm sure you could do a good icy skid down that hill...
Posted by: Grug, Moby Of Doom at November 23, 2010 12:23 PM (Hu/Da)
Yep - it was much worse here, last night, than that.
Posted by: Editor at November 23, 2010 08:28 AM (YX6i/)
Posted by: dagny at November 23, 2010 08:29 AM (2GOHX)
do none of these cars have brakes? or drivers?
I can't figure this out. it's mesmerizing.
used to live in Manayunk - hilly, cobblestoned, AND OFTEN SNOWS AND WE HAD ICE STORMS!!! good times, good times. NEVER SAW ANYTHING LIKE THAT IN THE YUNK!
jeebus!
Elite driving schools.
Posted by: WalrusRex at November 23, 2010 08:29 AM (xxgag)
If I remember the timeline, the machines were first being sold to the Bush admin, before the underoos bomber. Lobbying increased under the Obama admin to get widespread installation of the machines. Then the underwear bomber, and then the rectum bomber (in Saudi Arabia somewhere). Now since then, some brainiac at TSA figures out that these new wiz-bang machines would not detect the explosive used by the underwear guy, nor would detect an object shoved up someone's ass. So as any good large bureaucracy would do, they came up with a totally half-assed scheme that does nothing but saves them from the embarrassment of having to admit fault in the first place.
[/tinfoil hat]
Posted by: CUS at November 23, 2010 08:29 AM (wOGfT)
Posted by: marc in calgary at November 23, 2010 08:30 AM (twux5)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 23, 2010 12:27 PM (SB0V2)
It happens when you get a coating of what we call black ice in the south. You can't stand up on it, much less drive on it. Brakes are useless. Steering is moot. You are at the mercy of Newtonoian physics.
Posted by: maddogg at November 23, 2010 08:31 AM (OlN4e)
Posted by: dagny at November 23, 2010 08:31 AM (2GOHX)
That guy getting his dick stuck in a pipe.
By the way, I've caught more hobos using that method of trapping than I can even count.
Chain a section of pipe to a dumpster in an alley and put a 1/2 bottle of Valu-Rite and a stack of porn mags next to it. 30 minutes later you got a hobo with his dick stuck in a pipe chained to a dumpster. Easy peasy.
Posted by: Dang at November 23, 2010 08:31 AM (TXKVh)
Posted by: Nighthawk at November 23, 2010 08:31 AM (02uN6)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 23, 2010 08:32 AM (SB0V2)
Yep - it was much worse here, last night, than that.
There's a few Cafe's in Freemont where you could have watched this scene over and over, then.
Posted by: garrett at November 23, 2010 08:32 AM (6xikG)
Naw, I'm just funnin' the spelling. I've earned the right since I often get stung by the spelling bee.
Posted by: dogfish at November 23, 2010 08:32 AM (Ncv/n)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 23, 2010 08:32 AM (SB0V2)
We got hit with a snow storm yesterday and all the highways are covered in ice again today. Why? No salt. And, BTW, Old-hippies-who-run-Seattle, sand does NOTHING. It's useless! That's why people are getting trapped, hurt, and killed on your roads right now. Again.
Posted by: robviously at November 23, 2010 08:32 AM (6rLSO)
Cool post Fritz.
Maybe GEICO can come out with Obama collision insurance. I suppose though it would be hard to underwrite the risk of a socialist.
Posted by: Journolist at November 23, 2010 08:33 AM (O/NP5)
Posted by: dagny at November 23, 2010 08:33 AM (2GOHX)
Posted by: Grug, Moby Of Doom at November 23, 2010 08:34 AM (Hu/Da)
OTOH, I once was in Louisville when they had about a half-inch of snow in Feb and it looked pretty much like that. Louisville has plenty of hilly streets, and the drivers just couldn't figure out how to handle hill + slick. Pretty funny since I didn't have to be out in it.
Posted by: jorgxmckie at November 23, 2010 08:34 AM (290l2)
IIRC, whatever liberal city that was decided the salt on ice ends up in the harbor killing fish. So they decided to not salt the streets that winter. Hilarity followed.
Posted by: CUS at November 23, 2010 08:34 AM (wOGfT)
Posted by: Nighthawk at November 23, 2010 08:34 AM (02uN6)
Posted by: robviously at November 23, 2010 12:32 PM (6rLSO)
That's because most of them are from..... yeah, I know, it's an old meme... California!
Posted by: Editor at November 23, 2010 08:35 AM (YX6i/)
What pisses me off is that the financial crisis is artificial! I mean it came about because of stupid rules. What makes it worse is we've got an administration diametrically opposed to development and growth. We are a tremendously wealthy nation. But the left has done everything it can to undermine and destroy our argiculture, and our industry and is crippling us. Look at California. Banned irrigation:destroyed their agriculture. Banned offshore drilling: drove fuel prices up. Banned building new power plants: drove up the cost of energy. Welcomed illegals:drove up the costs of education and medicine. And that's just one resource rich state.
Posted by: Iblis at November 23, 2010 08:35 AM (9221z)
Posted by: dagny at November 23, 2010 08:36 AM (2GOHX)
Mark Shields insists he never heard any Democrat say that Bush lied about WMD in order to get the US into war.
/Big Journalism
That blowhard who talks because he loves the sound of his own voice insists that he not only didn't say it himself, but that he never heard it said by any Democrat. It had to be the Republicans saying it. If not, then no one said it.
Posted by: maverick muse at November 23, 2010 08:36 AM (H+LJc)
Posted by: Grug, Moby Of Doom at November 23, 2010 08:37 AM (Hu/Da)
We get black ice too. Not only is it impossible to drive on in any vehicle or even walk on, it breaks branches off trees and destroys power lines. It's exactly like being on a skating rink on a hill. Sand won't do anything. The only way to combat it is to pretreat the roads with chems.
Studded tires. Work fine, chief.
Black Ice, Blue Ice, it just don't matter.
Posted by: garrett in Montana at November 23, 2010 08:37 AM (6xikG)
Posted by: Journolist at November 23, 2010 08:38 AM (O/NP5)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 23, 2010 08:38 AM (SB0V2)
There's a few Cafe's in Freemont where you could have watched this scene over and over, then.
Posted by: garrett at November 23, 2010 12:32 PM (6xikG)
Fremont... there's nothing "Free" about that bastion of commie fehgs. And I suppose coming off the Phinney Ridge right down into Fremont would have been something similar. Many narrow, steep roads, as well as Fremont Ave. coming into the neighborhood
Posted by: Editor at November 23, 2010 08:38 AM (YX6i/)
Posted by: Nighthawk at November 23, 2010 08:39 AM (02uN6)
Posted by: dagny at November 23, 2010 08:40 AM (2GOHX)
Posted by: Czar at November 23, 2010 08:41 AM (+sBB4)
Why wouldn't it surprise me if Michele O came out with no MSG road salt.
Posted by: Journolist at November 23, 2010 08:41 AM (O/NP5)
Well, that answers my initial question, upon viewing this video, of, "Why the hell don't they just STOP??"
Posted by: Laura Castellano at November 23, 2010 08:42 AM (fuw6p)
Studded tires. Work fine, chief.
Black Ice, Blue Ice, it just don't matter.
Posted by: garrett in Montana at November 23, 2010 12:37 PM (6xikG)
Studded tires ain't legal everywhere.
Posted by: maddogg at November 23, 2010 08:42 AM (OlN4e)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at November 23, 2010 08:42 AM (Cm66w)
Our snow is a lot different than the snow in Montana. Unless you've experienced it in a vehicle, you just don't understand. It's nasty.
Posted by: Editor at November 23, 2010 08:43 AM (YX6i/)
Posted by: maverick muse at November 23, 2010 08:43 AM (H+LJc)
How about tire siping, that helps some.
Posted by: Journolist at November 23, 2010 08:43 AM (O/NP5)
It doesn't happen often enough and you don't have enough warning for studded tires. Just stay off of it until they treat the roads.
If you only need to use them once a year, they are still worth it.
Get a cheap set of Steel Wheels, and they go on and off in minutes.
Posted by: garrett at November 23, 2010 08:45 AM (6xikG)
Studded tires ain't legal everywhere.
Posted by: maddogg at November 23, 2010 12:42 PM (OlN4e)
Yeah, that part, too. I think they're only legal here starting Nov. 15??? I'm too lazy to look it up.
Can't imagine what the Les Schwab shops looked like about 2:30, yesterday. The horror.
Posted by: Editor at November 23, 2010 08:45 AM (YX6i/)
Posted by: Joanie (Oven Gloves) at November 23, 2010 08:45 AM (HaYO4)
Posted by: dagny at November 23, 2010 08:46 AM (2GOHX)
Posted by: ya2daup at November 23, 2010 08:46 AM (0AClR)
Posted by: Journolist at November 23, 2010 08:46 AM (O/NP5)
Posted by: maddogg at November 23, 2010 08:46 AM (OlN4e)
Posted by: robviously at November 23, 2010 12:32 PM (6rLSO)
That's because most of them are from..... yeah, I know, it's an old meme... California!
Posted by: Editor at November 23, 2010 12:35 PM (YX6i/)
The only competent people I've met since I moved up here for work are from somewhere else. The native Seattlites I've met are a bunch of cold, unimaginative dullards. I'm not shocked that they can't adapt to weather that they aren't used to.
Posted by: robviously at November 23, 2010 08:46 AM (6rLSO)
I remember as a youth pulling the studs from a pair of tires after we moved to a different state. My father (rightfully so) was not going to throw out a perfectly good pair of tires. That and he was already feeding me so no extra cost for him.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at November 23, 2010 08:46 AM (tf9Ne)
Posted by: Rick Santelli at November 23, 2010 08:47 AM (wtSLL)
Posted by: Editor at November 23, 2010 08:47 AM (YX6i/)
Yeah? Well fuck you.
Posted by: Editor at November 23, 2010 08:48 AM (YX6i/)
Our snow is a lot different than the snow in Montana. Unless you've experienced it in a vehicle, you just don't understand. It's nasty.
I have. I fish over there a lot in the Winter.
I used to drive Audi's from a Dealer in NY/NJ to a dealer in Freemont when I was in College and afterwards.
In the winter, I would make the trip 3-4 times a year. Pay was awesome, but driving in and around western Washington was the worst part of the trip. Bunch of retards up there.
Blizzaks worked well there.
Posted by: garrett at November 23, 2010 08:49 AM (6xikG)
Posted by: Editor at November 23, 2010 08:50 AM (YX6i/)
Posted by: Laura Castellano at November 23, 2010 08:51 AM (fuw6p)
Posted by: Journolist at November 23, 2010 08:53 AM (O/NP5)
Posted by: Editor at November 23, 2010 08:54 AM (YX6i/)
Posted by: CDR M at November 23, 2010 08:54 AM (BuYeH)
Posted by: Editor at November 23, 2010 08:55 AM (YX6i/)
Posted by: ya2daup at November 23, 2010 08:55 AM (0AClR)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at November 23, 2010 08:56 AM (Cm66w)
Posted by: Moi at November 23, 2010 08:58 AM (Ez4Ql)
Ted Koppel: Olbermann, O'Reilly and the death of real news
Can someone give this shark-jumped idiot a good fisking? I just don't have the time. But he needs it; deep, wide, and continuous.
Posted by: K~Bob at November 23, 2010 08:58 AM (30bWm)
Posted by: SurferDoc at November 23, 2010 09:00 AM (RKpGM)
That articulated bus was a hoot!
Posted by: WalrusRex at November 23, 2010 09:00 AM (xxgag)
Posted by: Editor at November 23, 2010 09:00 AM (YX6i/)
It's 5.2 here with a windchill of -10.7.
I have about an acre of driveway under 14-20" of snow...fucking wind drifts!
Today should be fun. Chiro office should be packed tomorrow.
Posted by: garrett at November 23, 2010 09:00 AM (6xikG)
The cars are every country that has tried Socialism.
The drivers are the politicians who think, 'yea, the last guy crashed, but this time, you've got me'
Posted by: negentropy at November 23, 2010 09:01 AM (27KAF)
This is the clearest proof yet that the Earth is warming. Climate disruption is imminent.
Posted by: Al Gore, Chakra Man and Scientist Extraordinaire at November 23, 2010 09:02 AM (9hSKh)
Mark Shields insists he never heard any Democrat say that Bush lied about WMD in order to get the US into war.
Nah, nah, nah, nah. I can't hear you!
Posted by: Mark Shields at November 23, 2010 09:03 AM (xxgag)
After some hoops, I think we need another lite beer summit.
Posted by: Commander In Cheef at November 23, 2010 09:03 AM (30bWm)
Posted by: maddogg at November 23, 2010 09:05 AM (OlN4e)
Me need 'nother basketball, round-eye capitalist pigs!
Send over that woman with all the pins. She give me lots of presents before...
Posted by: Kim Jong Ill at November 23, 2010 09:05 AM (9hSKh)
Yeah? Well fuck you. I'm born and raised. Wasn't always like this.
Posted by: Editor at November 23, 2010 12:48 PM (YX6i/)
Ha. Stay safe. People are doing some weird shit out there again today.
Posted by: robviously at November 23, 2010 09:08 AM (6rLSO)
kbob
that's what the airport is for.......
Posted by: phoenixgirl at November 23, 2010 12:59 PM (Cm66w)
Silver lining department: After Thanksgiving feast, anyone feeling constipated will have that, uhh, rectified by the TSA.
Posted by: K~Bob at November 23, 2010 09:08 AM (30bWm)
As someone who spent most of his life in the Northeast, I'm always amazed by how poorly Portlanders (many of whom are probably from California) drive. However, I remember when this storm hit Portland and just how bad the conditions were. I didn't run into any trouble personally, but neither did I find myself on a hill that looked like snow but drove like ice.
Posted by: William Wallace at November 23, 2010 09:08 AM (9IttK)
Australian slang for boobs, tits, fun bags, etc.
Posted by: WalrusRex at November 23, 2010 09:08 AM (xxgag)
NW Portland is Mecca for the Obama retards. You can say with statistical certainty that almost all, if not all, of those people were fuzzyheaded libs.
Portland even allows chains and cables, so it's not like you even need to buy studded tires (unless you're up at the mountain a lot). We get snow in town once every 3 years or so, and an inch shiuts down the City for 2 days. 3 inches, and it's like 4-5 days before anything happens.
But no salt + inexperience with snow + lack of practical thought processes = FAIL
Kinda like "poor theories + no business experience + lack of practical thought processes = OBAMA"
Posted by: s'moron at November 23, 2010 09:08 AM (UaxA0)
Maybe I'm stoopid; but how the hell did all that ice get into a tunnel?
I can't get over how well some of those cars brakes worked on the 'ice'?
Posted by: garrett at November 23, 2010 09:08 AM (6xikG)
Posted by: Editor at November 23, 2010 01:00 PM (YX6i/)
Everett?
Posted by: robviously at November 23, 2010 09:08 AM (6rLSO)
That articulated bus was a hoot!
In Soviet Russia, tunnel crashes you!
Posted by: That one dude at November 23, 2010 09:09 AM (9hSKh)
I met Mark Shields in L.A. several years back on a weekday, that is at a weekday mass at St. Paul's Church on the west side.
He's a conflicted liberal.
Posted by: Journolist at November 23, 2010 09:09 AM (O/NP5)
Posted by: Racefan at November 23, 2010 09:09 AM (tYntB)
Ted Koppel: Olbermann, O'Reilly and the death of real news
Can someone give this shark-jumped idiot a good fisking? I just don't have the time. But he needs it; deep, wide, and continuous.
Posted by: K~Bob
Wasn't he the dickhead that recited the names of Iraqi war dead, but refused to do the same for those killed in Afghanistan?
Wasn't he the dickhead who got his own show that milked the Iranian hostage crisis?
Posted by: Blue Hen at November 23, 2010 09:10 AM (1O93r)
What sums up this administration is the photograph of Obama struggling to get his umbrella through a gate.
He could have turned the umbrella sideways. He might have folded it briefly, passed it through through, then unfolded it again. He might have handed it to Michelle on the other side of the gate. But no. He had to do it his way, since he is a world-class super-genius, and so wound up looking like a four-star doofus.
The risible combination of stubbornness, arrogance, and stupidity shown in the umbrella incident is the hallmark of the Obama Administration.
Posted by: Brown Line at November 23, 2010 09:13 AM (VrNoa)
Leon Lett Obama
Posted by: logprof at November 23, 2010 12:22 PM (CE2wR)
At least that blunder didn't prevent Jimmy Johnson form getting the Extenze gig.
Posted by: ya2daup at November 23, 2010 09:16 AM (0AClR)
The key thing to note is that Seattle/Portland are fundamentally unprepared for snow. There is a minuscule number of plows and sanders. There is no salt - that's bad for the fish. So a snowfall that everyone in the snow-experiencing world sees as minute (an inch or two) turns straight into ice. And the temperatures tend to hover just below freezing - so any melted snow just reforms as smoother ice.
I've live for more than a decade in Troy, NY - where we had four inches of snow on October fourth, and snow in May. With a whole lot in between. Drifts higher than my car, etc. It wasn't Buffalo, but it was ick.
But the actual road conditions in Seattle (and Portland) end up worse - fast.
We've had damn near the same thing here in Seattle just last night. The roads were just a half-inch of smooth ice with another half-inch of completely loose snow. On some streets, there's no ice underneath and people think, "Oh, I can handle this." Then they turn the corner and the omnipresent hills bring gravity in to play.
Our mayor is a "Bicycles for everyone!" transportation expert, and the current "emergency snow" plan is "Everyone ride the bus!"
So the drivers are idiots, yes. But it is the cities unwilling to recognize that this area has had more snow 2000-2010 than 1800-2000 and thus perhaps plows might be in order that's the truly insane part.
Posted by: Al at November 23, 2010 09:16 AM (MzQOZ)
Oh, and PS, 4 chains on a 4WD goes ANYWHERE.
Posted by: s'moron at November 23, 2010 01:14 PM (UaxA0)
After wearing out a winch cable winching my jeep j-10 out of sand dunes in Western Kansas and 300 yards of East Texas swamp, I found that they can't actually go anywhere. My new philosophy: Use 4WD to get OUT of trouble rather than INTO trouble and your life will require much less wallowing through mud and shit with a shovel and a winch cable. The million mounds of fire ants between me and the road during my epoch 300 yard winching out of the slough was an added bonus.
Posted by: maddogg at November 23, 2010 09:21 AM (OlN4e)
Posted by: mueller at November 23, 2010 09:24 AM (QO+2f)
Posted by: ingenus at November 23, 2010 09:27 AM (+sBB4)
Posted by: King Barry I at November 23, 2010 09:28 AM (vdfwz)
Posted by: The Ice Road Truckers at November 23, 2010 09:31 AM (vdfwz)
(While shoveling my sidewalk some ditz rode by on a mountain bike. On a packed snow surface. I should just make him a reservation at the funeral home now.)
Posted by: bad cat robot at November 23, 2010 09:31 AM (vV8Fq)
Posted by: Paladin at November 23, 2010 09:33 AM (ycm4Q)
Posted by: President Barack Obama at November 23, 2010 09:34 AM (mAm+G)
Posted by: joeindc44 at November 23, 2010 09:35 AM (QxSug)
Posted by: lurker at November 23, 2010 09:39 AM (GOsSG)
Posted by: chad at November 23, 2010 09:40 AM (WNcvq)
Maybe I'm stoopid; but how the hell did all that ice get into a tunnel?
Posted by: maddogg at November 23, 2010 01:05 PM (OlN4e)
When I've seen this presented at safety meetings at work, ice is cited as being the cause for the mayhem. However, since this shows crashes that occurred at a number of different times; ice may or may not have been a contributing factor. I'd put the vehicles' speed at the top of the list, in any case.
As for getting ice in the tunnel, ground fog might have condensed and frozen on the road surface - at least around the openings. A commenter in the YouTube thread volunteered this: The unmaintained tunnels in Russia lead to cracks in the walls. These cracks let in water. As this is Russia you don't expect ice in tunnels when driving through them -- this video is the result.
This all is speculation, of course.
Posted by: ya2daup at November 23, 2010 09:40 AM (0AClR)
Last evening I watched a bicyclist on a non-mountain bike have a both-wheels-sliding wipeout stop just before an active intersection. So this moron gets up and walks around the area... then takes pictures of the ice before getting back on the bike and continuing. Bueller? Hello? WTF?
Posted by: Al at November 23, 2010 09:42 AM (MzQOZ)
when we get black ice or snow in Atlanta both of our highway trucks spread chemicals and sand.
Posted by: Racefan at November 23, 2010 01:09 PM (tYntB)
I see what you did there.
Posted by: ya2daup at November 23, 2010 09:43 AM (0AClR)
Yes, fatcatrobot, only Seattle has hills and snow and ice
You are correct sir
Thank you for that topographic tour through Fail Land
Posted by: OhioDude at November 23, 2010 09:44 AM (ojJB9)
To keep with the topic of the thread, I think we can all agree that experience is reeely important, no?
Posted by: bad cat robot at November 23, 2010 09:57 AM (vV8Fq)
(1) A substantial amount of winter precipitation is heavy, wet snow or ice. (2) The snow removal effort usually isn't started far enough in advance so that it stays ahead of the storm, in part because (3) there usually isn't nearly enough snow removal equipment. (4) What equipment there is, usually isn't substantial enough to deal with large quantities of snow or wet snow, in which case things get complicated because (5) if a hard freeze accompanies a fall of wet snow, what hasn't been moved out of the road usually becomes as hard as concrete and can no longer be moved. (6) Finally, neighborhoods usually hire out for snow plowing of their streets and these service providers are afflicted by the same problems listed above.
I try to get done what I need ahead of any storm, because I have no desire to try to compensate for the wide variety of skills -- usually low -- exhibited by other drivers under wintry conditions.
Posted by: ya2daup at November 23, 2010 10:07 AM (0AClR)
My new philosophy: Use 4WD to get OUT of trouble rather than INTO trouble and your life will require much less wallowing through mud and shit with a shovel and a winch cable.
LOfuckingL maddogg.
Words to live by.
I should have said "anywhere in the ice and snow"
Posted by: s'moron at November 23, 2010 10:11 AM (UaxA0)
I backed up as far as I could on the clear section of road and got a good running start. Made it 3/4 of the way up the hill before ran out of momentum.
Morale of the story? When you get black ice on the road you ain't going nowhere.
Posted by: Vic at November 23, 2010 10:16 AM (e4sSD)
Posted by: don abernathy at November 23, 2010 10:33 AM (J0JEf)
As someone who spent most of his life in the Northeast, I'm always amazed by how poorly Portlanders (many of whom are probably from California) drive.
But most people from California originally came from ...the Northeast. They just stopped off in California on their way to Portland.
So don't blame us (native Californians) for these retards inability to drive. The few (of us), the proud who actually are native would have an excuse; the rest, were retards wherever they came from, they were retards here, they are apparently still retards wherever they went from here.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at November 23, 2010 10:57 AM (pTZyY)
I'll say. Even after it becomes obvious that proceeding further would not be a wise course of action, they still go ahead anyway, and the result is still the same.
Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at November 23, 2010 11:13 AM (fxACH)
I don't mean any aspersion to Californians but implying that, because they live further south, most of them have even less experience in snow than Oregonians. I except those that live in the mountains, but of course there are those in Oregon too.
Not that there isn't an abundance of native Californian retards.
Posted by: William Wallace at November 23, 2010 02:18 PM (9IttK)
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