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September 08, 2010

Alaska Libertarians Not That Interested In Murkowski
— DrewM

Like the creature in a horror film that just won't die, Lisa Murkowski popped back up yesterday saying she was "still in this game" despite losing the Republican Primary to Joe Miller.

After her discussion with David Haase, the Libertarian Senate candidate (who we first met here), it doesn't sound like anything will come of it.

For Murkowski to run as a Libertarian, Haase would have to step aside and the party would need to reverse its vote barring her from the ticket.
"It would be a serious flip-flop," party chairman Kohlhaas said. "And I don't think it's happening."
...Libertarian Senate candidate Haase said no decision was made at his Tuesday meeting with Murkowski. "Anything this important is worth sleeping on," Haase said. "And she's got a lot to think about."
Haase said Murkowski does have Libertarian tendencies but that her support for the war on drugs is a problem. Party chairman Kolhaas has also identified other Murkowski positions as a problem for the Libertarians. Those include her vote to authorize the war in Iraq and her 2008 vote in favor of the Bush administration's Wall Street bailout plan, which Murkowski has said she regrets.
Haase said he might be willing to talk to his party's leadership on Murkowski's behalf.
"If she convinced me I would do everything I can to convince them. But she hasn't convinced me. And she hasn't decided that she wants to run. ... She doesn't want to be seen as somebody that will switch parties just to get elected," Haase said.

Seriously, how much fun would it have been to be a fly on the wall during the Haase/Murkowski meeting? I would have loved to have seen the look on her face as Haase tried to get her to sign on to his "The Peoples Bail Out". Priceless!

Amazing what some hacks will do to hang on to the thinnest of reeds if it means the chance to stay in office. At least we can take some comfort in the idea she's not enjoying it.

Posted by: DrewM at 08:49 AM | Comments (96)
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1 I always hate it when the bad guy dies too fast in a movie. This is a pleasure to watch.

Posted by: Dang at September 08, 2010 08:52 AM (Chg7a)

2 fuck this rino.

Posted by: The Audacity of the Bamboozlement!?!?! at September 08, 2010 08:52 AM (xRcKp)

3 Neither is anyone else.

Posted by: dogfish at September 08, 2010 08:52 AM (UEJ97)

4 Daddy said it was MINE!

Posted by: Lisa at September 08, 2010 08:53 AM (LEynS)

5 She doesn't want to be seen as somebody that will switch parties just to get elected," Haase said.

He said that with a straight face?! Bwahahahaha.

Posted by: Tami at September 08, 2010 08:54 AM (VuLos)

6 Seriously, how much fun would it have been to be a fly on the wall during the Haase/Murkowski meeting?

--That fly would not have been there long. I've seen what cigarette smoke does to flying insects, and I don;t imagine unfiltered pot would be any easier on them.

Posted by: logprof at September 08, 2010 08:54 AM (BP6Z1)

7 Murkowski is like the guy who fell off the top of a 20 story building. As he fell past each floor, he could be heard to say: "so far, so good".

Posted by: maddogg at September 08, 2010 08:55 AM (OlN4e)

8 Heh! They're just not that into you, Bitch! Now quit your crying and go make me a sammich!

Posted by: runningrn at September 08, 2010 08:55 AM (8GYOu)

9 If Libertarianism means 'let the elites do whatever they want', then maybe Murkowski is a good fit, after all.

Posted by: t-bird at September 08, 2010 08:55 AM (FcR7P)

10 Honestly, if the Libertarian Party takes Murky, it will damage what little credibility/political power they have. She's damaged goods.

Posted by: runningrn at September 08, 2010 08:56 AM (8GYOu)

11 Nothin' worse than a RINO who just can't give it up, right? Hey, how bout all that blog love I'm getting!

Posted by: Mike Castle at September 08, 2010 08:56 AM (K/USr)

"Convictions?

Never heard of 'em." Charlie Gibson.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at September 08, 2010 08:56 AM (RkRxq)

13 Stay classy, Lisa. Sucks for her that she has an R after her name, otherwise she'd already have a gig with the MFM. Hey, how about McCain/Murkoski 2012 for the GOP ticket? (Only if Bob Dole is not available.)

Posted by: cali grump at September 08, 2010 08:57 AM (1tJr/)

14 When the stoners think your position is stupid, your position is stupid. This is a guideline that's served me well.

Posted by: alexthechick at September 08, 2010 08:57 AM (IhJ5K)

15 Lisa, hon, you don't need a party to stay in the game!

Posted by: Crist Cringle at September 08, 2010 08:57 AM (BP6Z1)

16 Thank God this woman has been exposed for the crap sandwich she is. No wonder Palin took on her dad for his cronyism and good old boy attitude. This woman feels she is OWED this seat- and she couldn't give a shit what her voters think. She's as much a prostitute for money and power as Miss Piggy in Louisiana and Nelson in Nebraska.

Posted by: shocked at September 08, 2010 08:59 AM (3nDF5)

17 10 Honestly, if the Libertarian Party takes Murky, it will damage what little credibility/political power they have. She's damaged goods. Posted by: runningrn

Kinda like that pimply, skinny nerd bangin' the drunk fat chick at the Dungeons and Dragons party?

Posted by: Dang at September 08, 2010 08:59 AM (Chg7a)

"Like the creature in a horror film that just won't die..."

Then she limps slowly out of the bog with chainsaw hands, wearing a satin clown costume.

Posted by: Joanie (Oven Gloves) at September 08, 2010 09:00 AM (HaYO4)

19 Uh maybe I am a little slow but if you lose the primary aren't you supposed to concede and support you parties nominee?

Posted by: Mr Pink at September 08, 2010 09:00 AM (hfhlY)

20 19 Uh maybe I am a little slow but if you lose the primary aren't you supposed to concede and support you parties nominee?

Posted by: Mr Pink at September 08, 2010 01:00 PM (hfhlY)

Posted by: Crist Cringle at September 08, 2010 09:02 AM (BP6Z1)

21 19 Uh maybe I am a little slow but if you lose the primary aren't you supposed to concede and support you parties nominee?

Posted by: Mr Pink at September 08, 2010 01:00 PM (hfhlY)

You have touched on the essence of RINOism.

Posted by: maddogg at September 08, 2010 09:04 AM (OlN4e)

22 and it keeps coming back to drugs for the Libertarians ...

Posted by: Jean at September 08, 2010 09:04 AM (nOq8U)

23 Were the castle astroturfers a one day dealio?

Posted by: The Audacity of the Bamboozlement!?!?! at September 08, 2010 09:04 AM (NRr+T)

24 I bet she'll mount a write-in campaign.

Posted by: John S at September 08, 2010 09:04 AM (+q/hN)

25 That chick was HAWT right? Hey Booger, did you get us, you know, 'doing it' on tape?

Posted by: Pimply, Skinny Nerd at September 08, 2010 09:04 AM (yQWNf)

19 hahahahaHAHAHAhahahahaha

welcome to the 21st century of politics

disgusting, isn't it

Posted by: navycopjoe at September 08, 2010 09:04 AM (gg4j2)

27 Dang, you must have been cool - you had girls (and alcohol) at your D&D parties

Posted by: Jean at September 08, 2010 09:05 AM (THrql)

Should we issue a zombie alert?

DOA and she doesn't even understand.

Posted by: USMC8541 at September 08, 2010 09:05 AM (v3pYe)

29 28 Dang, you must have been cool - you had girls (and alcohol) at your D&D parties

Posted by: Jean at September 08, 2010 01:05 PM (THrql)

--Do you remember the old ad poasted on an ONT a few months back? Not only was there a chick in it, she was also the Dungeonmaster (Dungeonmistress?).

Posted by: Crist Cringle at September 08, 2010 09:07 AM (BP6Z1)

30 /turncoat opportunist sockpuppet

Posted by: logprof at September 08, 2010 09:08 AM (BP6Z1)

31 Wow. This thread's been up 20 minutes? Seems like hours.

Posted by: Dave in Alaska at September 08, 2010 09:09 AM (5aa4z)

32 Do you need a special vampire bullet to down a RINO?

Posted by: tarpon at September 08, 2010 09:09 AM (g0QB8)

didn't they already tell her they weren't interested?

Posted by: phoenixgirl at September 08, 2010 09:09 AM (JeQ5T)

34 I got a lot of time and money on my hands. Maybe there's a way I could run.

Posted by: Albert Haynesworth at September 08, 2010 09:10 AM (BP6Z1)

35
28 Dang, you must have been cool - you had girls (and alcohol) at your D&D parties Posted by: Jean

I was actually picturing the fat chick falling down the kitchen stairs into the D&D party in the basement.

Posted by: Dang at September 08, 2010 09:10 AM (Chg7a)

36 36 it rolls the D10 or it gets the hose again

Posted by: navycopjoe at September 08, 2010 09:11 AM (gg4j2)

37 32 Wow. This thread's been up 20 minutes? Seems like hours.

Posted by: Dave in Alaska at September 08, 2010 01:09 PM (5aa4z)

--Well, we've been through this story over and over the past few days. I wish the LPA would just pick someone and end the story. Like phoenixgirl, I thought they already officially ruled her out.

Posted by: logprof at September 08, 2010 09:13 AM (BP6Z1)

38 you can have all the money in the world daaaaaaling it doesn't mean you can get elected.....but maybe you could start a blog and hang out at msnbc in the morning.......

Posted by: arianna hufflepuff at September 08, 2010 09:13 AM (JeQ5T)

39 37 oops, being as i was a cool kid, i never heard of D&D and have no idea what a d10 is

Posted by: navycopjoe at September 08, 2010 09:13 AM (gg4j2)

40 being as i was a cool kid, i never heard of D&D and have no idea what a d10 is

-7 Charisma

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at September 08, 2010 09:14 AM (5aa4z)

40 navy

you were way cooler than the d&d kids......d&d was for the geeks

Posted by: sorry geeks no offense intended at September 08, 2010 09:15 AM (JeQ5T)

_{Posted by: Crist Cringle at September 08, 2010 01:02 PM (BP6Z1)}

Don't you mean CristCheddarPringle?

Posted by: garrett at September 08, 2010 09:15 AM (ceDi7)

43 Kinda like that pimply, skinny nerd bangin' the drunk fat chick at the Dungeons and Dragons party?

Posted by: Dang at September 08, 2010 12:59 PM (Chg7a)

I think you are mixing up your types of "role play"

Posted by: Randy at September 08, 2010 09:15 AM (zQKSr)

44 They're just not that into you, Bitch! Now quit your crying and go make me a sammich!

Posted by: runningrn

Or some brownies. Those would be really, really great about now. I could kill for a chocolate chip cookie.......And some Doritos. Do you think she could get some of those?

Posted by: Yukon Dave of the ALP at September 08, 2010 09:17 AM (R2fpr)

ot but i think the ultimate rant i ever performed was when my 20th level ranger was killed in the tomb of horrors

i think i threatened to burn my neighbors house down

Posted by: navycopjoe at September 08, 2010 09:19 AM (gg4j2)

She. Is. Not. A. LIBERTARIAN.

If libertarianism means anything, it's small government. She voted for the bailout and is a porker of the worst order.

and it keeps coming back to drugs for the Libertarians ...

You know, I support legalization too, but the LP REALLY needs to learn not to lead with this. The macro-issue of liberty vs tyranny is salient to a lot of people right now. Why ruin that by going to this one sub-part of liberty that a lot of people find distasteful?

Posted by: LibertarianJim at September 08, 2010 01:14 PM (PReJ3)

Yes, well put. And the reason to vote for a third party is to show your support for their cause, to have your purity vote. To vote for a third party and still be voting for a sell-out... what's the point?

Posted by: Randy at September 08, 2010 09:19 AM (zQKSr)

47 Like the creature in a horror film that just won't die, Lisa Murkowski popped back up yesterday saying she was "still in this game" despite losing the Republican Primary...

What a scrunt. Even the Libertarians aren't that into you, Lisa. Take a damn hint and bow out with a sliver of dignity.

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at September 08, 2010 09:20 AM (9hSKh)

ot but i think the ultimate rant i ever performed was when my 20th level ranger was killed in the tomb of horrors

i think i threatened to burn my neighbors house down

Dude... you expected to survive that?

Posted by: Randy at September 08, 2010 09:20 AM (zQKSr)

49 but i think the ultimate rant i ever performed was when my 20th level ranger was killed in the tomb of horrors

i think i threatened to burn my neighbors house down

Was there a Koran in there?

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at September 08, 2010 09:21 AM (5aa4z)

50 It's bad when the best comment I can come up with is totally the worst one to make.

Here's a thought, though: get states to enact laws that say that, once you lose a primary, you're done for that electoral cycle. Should put an end to that kind of stupidity. (Yes, I know Lieberman would have gone down. No, I don't entirely see that as an insufferable loss.)

Posted by: DarkLordOfTheIntarWebs at September 08, 2010 09:21 AM (IkEhE)

51 Posted by: LibertarianJim at September 08, 2010 01:14 PM (PReJ3)

--Exactly.

Posted by: logprof at September 08, 2010 09:22 AM (BP6Z1)

52 Murkowski-type Republicans are what drive many Republicans to Libertarianism. She's a Democrat, not a Libertarian.

Posted by: Spike at September 08, 2010 09:22 AM (wtnmC)

ot but i think the ultimate rant i ever performed was when my 20th level ranger was killed in the tomb of horrors

...a Ranger?

Your Vanity is showing...also your epidermis.

Posted by: garrett at September 08, 2010 09:23 AM (ceDi7)

54 Murky's doing a Public Service here....

By encouraging all the bullshit speculation and generating lots of angry bleating from the Repubs, she's well on her way to giving "Poppin' Fresh," Drew and ace their very own little version of the Allahpander/Palin game.

What else is there to talk about?

Posted by: MrScribbler at September 08, 2010 09:24 AM (Ulu3i)

55 Here's a thought, though: get states to enact laws that say that, once you lose a primary, you're done for that electoral cycle.

We already have that in just about every State including AK. She thinks she has a loophole that will allow her to "replace" a candidate.

Posted by: Vic at September 08, 2010 09:26 AM (/jbAw)

56 Here's a thought, though: get states to enact laws that say that, once you lose a primary, you're done for that electoral cycle. Should put an end to that kind of stupidity. (Yes, I know Lieberman would have gone down. No, I don't entirely see that as an insufferable loss.)

Posted by: DarkLordOfTheIntarWebs

Variation on the theme.

Enact laws or party rules that state that if you attempt to secure the nomination for a party, and lose, and try to run as an independent, another party or write-in, then you have to within 30 days refund all monies received as a nominee, (both from that party, and from individuals who donated money because you were a candidate from party X). This won't stop all of it; the richer and more well connected ones will still play the game. But it would stop at least some of the opportunists

Posted by: Yukon Dave of the ALP at September 08, 2010 09:27 AM (R2fpr)

57 If they were smart (well, they probably wouldn't be Big L Libertarians for one), they would understand that Joe Miller is pretty much everything they should want in a Libertarian candidate.

PS they show me why I'm not a Big L and just a conservative/libertarian - it really is all about "legalize it, dude!"

Posted by: Darin H at September 08, 2010 09:27 AM (FO3sW)

Posted by: toby928 at September 08, 2010 01:28 PM (S5YRY)

That's part of their "create green jobs or else" strategy, I guess.

Posted by: Randy at September 08, 2010 09:29 AM (zQKSr)

59 ot but i think the ultimate rant i ever performed was when my 20th level ranger was killed in the tomb of horrors Contingency is your friend

Posted by: Jean at September 08, 2010 09:30 AM (v4C0Z)

60 Democrats Force Last US Light Bulb Plant to Close Shop

Posted by: toby928 at September 08, 2010 01:28 PM (S5YRY)

Time to start up a lucrative business smuggling light bulbs from Canada!

Posted by: ErikW at September 08, 2010 09:31 AM (flzGQ)

61 Great, we can't even make light bulbs anymore. 50 cent light bulbs that last twice as long as $11 CFL pieces of hazardous waste.

Posted by: t-bird at September 08, 2010 09:32 AM (FcR7P)

62 I got a response to the D&D jokes, natch.

Just as soon as my FGMP-15 gets warmed up...

Posted by: DarkLordOfTheIntarWebs at September 08, 2010 09:32 AM (IkEhE)

it doesn't sound like anything will come of it.

Something will come of it, all right. The last nail in her career politician coffin.

Her shitty, juvenile, disloyal reaction to losing is a matter of record and will be brought up by any future opponent. She's finished, and by her own hand.

Thanx, Lisa!

Posted by: Wm T Sherman at September 08, 2010 09:33 AM (w41GQ)

64 O/T: wow it looks like talk radio is taking on the conservative bloggers...Rush is discussing Christine O'Donnell and George Demos, the guy running against Chris Coz and some other guy. He says the Demos race is like the O'Donnell race

Ane monica crowley had cox on...

Didn't realize that Cox was the son of the NY republican chair and was "shipped out" to the suffolk county district so he could win?

Posted by: curious at September 08, 2010 09:35 AM (p302b)

65 Word. It can be a lucrative sideline to the existing toilet smuggling.

Posted by: toby928 at September 08, 2010 01:33 PM (S5YRY)

I know a guy who snoops around abandoned farm buildings looking for the big flushers. Thankfully, I already have one.

Posted by: ErikW at September 08, 2010 09:35 AM (flzGQ)

Old Rinos never die, they just pound the poultry harder.

sup ya'll??

back to work....

Posted by: dananjcon at September 08, 2010 09:37 AM (pr+up)

We were singing, Bye-Bye Miss Eskimo Pie...

Posted by: runningrn at September 08, 2010 09:37 AM (8GYOu)

68 It can be a lucrative sideline to the existing toilet smuggling. I'm sure the border tribes will be all over it, without shedding a big Indian tear.

Posted by: Jean at September 08, 2010 09:38 AM (L2+HZ)

Time to start up a lucrative business smuggling light bulbs from Canada!

Posted by: ErikW at September 08, 2010 01:31 PM (flzGQ)

--Actually, I think they're phasing them out here too. :-(

Pretty stupid, when you consider that the heat emitted by incandescents is not exactly "waste" in the winter here.

Posted by: logprof at September 08, 2010 09:40 AM (BP6Z1)

70 Don'tcha think it is fascinating when a story has not a single comment.

Posted by: at September 08, 2010 09:41 AM (p302b)

71 OT: Ace's new ride. Where he's going, he doesn't need roads.

Posted by: nickless at September 08, 2010 09:41 AM (MMC8r)

72 Rush, Rush, Rush . . .

Posted by: Scoob at September 08, 2010 09:42 AM (T7+JL)

73 On another note, damn, Aaron Rodgers has a big-ass mullet!

Posted by: logprof at September 08, 2010 09:42 AM (BP6Z1)

74 The Democrats forcing a light bulb plant to close is one of the multitude of reasons those fucks have to be run out of town on a spike studded rail, if not used to decorate the light poles in DC. Sons of bitches got to go. God damn them and all their spawn.

Posted by: maddogg at September 08, 2010 09:43 AM (OlN4e)

75 From the Senate Judiciary Committee:

The Senate Committee on the Judiciary has scheduled a hearing entitled "Firearms in Commerce: Assessing the Need for Reform in the Federal Regulatory Process" for Tuesday, September 14, 2010 at 10:00 a.m.

Why does that not give me the warm-and-fuzzies?

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at September 08, 2010 09:43 AM (5aa4z)

Pretty stupid, when you consider that the heat emitted by incandescents is not exactly "waste" in the winter here.

Posted by: logprof at September 08, 2010 01:40 PM (BP6Z1)

I agree. We have nasty winters in Ohio too.

I guess I'll have to purchase a 47' Fountain with twin Merc 1075s so I can make the high speed run from Honduras to the Gulf Coast with a hold full of 60 and 100 watt incandescants.

Posted by: ErikW at September 08, 2010 09:45 AM (flzGQ)

77 Kinda like that pimply, skinny nerd bangin' the drunk fat chick at the Dungeons and Dragons party?

Posted by: Dang at September 08, 2010 12:59 PM (Chg7a)

I don't remember that happening...

Posted by: the drunk fat chick at September 08, 2010 09:45 AM (YVZlY)

Pretty stupid, when you consider that the heat emitted by incandescents is not exactly "waste" in the winter here.

Posted by: logprof at September 08, 2010 01:40 PM (BP6Z1)

Ha! Funny you mentioned this, I laughed at my wife last night when she said it would get cooler in the bedroom once she turned the light off.

Posted by: dananjcon at September 08, 2010 09:46 AM (pr+up)

79 BTW, for you boat freaks, that's a Fountain Lightning and it goes 115 mph.

Posted by: ErikW at September 08, 2010 09:46 AM (flzGQ)

80 Posted by: toby928 at September 08, 2010 01:45 PM (S5YRY)

That would take us at least ten steps up on the "class" ladder.

Never understood why anyone would call their website "hot air" that was a pejorative term used in my family to nicely say you were, "full of hot air", translation, an idiot.

Posted by: curious . at September 08, 2010 09:48 AM (p302b)

81 Drunk fat chick at the D & D party?

Drunk on what, - cheetos and Mountain Dew?

Posted by: Fritz at September 08, 2010 09:48 AM (GwPRU)

82 @87. Yeah I'm a boat man. Here's me and my bass boat.

Posted by: maddogg at September 08, 2010 09:49 AM (OlN4e)

83 85 Ace should steal from Jim Hoft instead of HA.

Posted by: toby928 at September 08, 2010 01:45 PM (S5YRY)

--Agreed. So many a couple times JH jumped the gun on a story, but the takes at GWP are usually saner.

Posted by: logprof at September 08, 2010 09:49 AM (BP6Z1)

84 me and mountain dew...we go way back

Posted by: grey goose . at September 08, 2010 09:49 AM (p302b)

The Senate Committee on the Judiciary has scheduled a hearing entitled "Firearms in Commerce: Assessing the Need for Reform in the Federal Regulatory Process" for Tuesday, September 14, 2010 at 10:00 a.m.

Why does that not give me the warm-and-fuzzies?

This will not go any where before November so it's DOA.

Posted by: Roadking at September 08, 2010 09:56 AM (JF0FX)

86 90 @87. Yeah I'm a boat man. Here's me and my bass boat.

Posted by: maddogg at September 08, 2010 01:49 PM (OlN4e)

Nice rig! You don't see strap chairs much anymore.

Posted by: ErikW at September 08, 2010 10:03 AM (flzGQ)

87 Usually when I hits 'em, they stay down.

Posted by: Ike Turner at September 08, 2010 10:59 AM (FnIuw)

88 She does not hate Joos enough to be a Libertarian. She also denied the truth that Dick Cheney and BigFoot engineered the September 11 th attacks.

Posted by: Ron Paul at September 08, 2010 11:35 AM (9cflz)

89 Why would the Libertarians consider this?

Given the choice between Murky and Miller; Miller is the better candidate for Libertarian views... you know if their goal is actually principles and not politics for press & cash.

Don't we have enough sell-out politicians without a new party selling out?

#20 Posted by: Crist Cringle at September 08, 2010 01:02 PM (BP6Z1)...

Where did you find an orange laughing emoticon?

Posted by: Gekkobear at September 08, 2010 11:52 AM (X0NX1)

90 New rented mule thread up for write in.

Posted by: Tonto the mule wrangler at September 08, 2010 12:38 PM (/jbAw)

91 Even if Murk has some Libertarian tendency. Miller has MORE, so why run with Murk. Thats like supporting Obama over Ron Paul

Posted by: 4rc at September 08, 2010 04:53 PM (D6YvH)

92 Lisa ran in the Republican primary as a Republican candidate. She lost. She used the Party to get where she was. Now she does not get her way, so she tries to work around it. She is a sore loser and needs to go away. She will not be forgiven for voting for TARP or at least bring up the issues for how we got there before she voted. Then she painted herself in her primary campaign ads as a conservative, when she was more of a RINO.

We have a whole congress full of pubs and dems like her that need to go.

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