December 28, 2010

Alaska Senate Update: End Game?
— Gabriel Malor

Perhaps our long, national nightmare is finally over. I say perhaps, because Joe Miller could always appeal, right?

The federal judge dismissed the case, just as the Alaska courts did. Here's fairly federalist heart of it:

This is not to say that Miller’s technical arguments are frivolous, for it is easy to understand his view as to the proper interpretation of A.S. § 15.15.360(a)(11). But it is just as easy to accept the interpretation given by the Alaska Supreme Court. What we have before us is a poorly drafted state statute. Wisdom would suggest that the Alaska Legislature act to clarify it to avoid similar disputes in the future. For now we have to work with what we have and that is what the Alaska Supreme Court has done.

Generally speaking, the Alaska Supreme Court is the final expositor of Alaska law. That must be the case here. It concluded that Miller's interpretation of the statute "would erode the integrity of the election system," and held that "voter intent is paramount." Under the facts presented, this Court declines to second-guess the highest Court of the state.

The judge also dismissed Miller's equal protection claims. It's a short 11 pager (PDF).

So far there's no word that Miller intends to appeal. If he wanted, he could take this to the 9th Circuit. With the injunction lifted, Murky will be seated in time to keep her seniority.

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at 04:54 PM | Comments (81)
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1 What we have before us is a poorly drafted state statute. Wisdom would suggest that the Alaska Legislature act to clarify it to avoid similar disputes in the future. For now we have to work with what we have and that is what the Alaska Supreme Court has done.

Hmm, wouldn't it be more accurate to say a clearly written law the state court disagreed with?

Posted by: 18-1 at December 28, 2010 04:57 PM (bgcml)

2 Yep. It's perfectly clear and it is not the place if the judiciary to chastise the legislature. Shut up and do what they tell you, you elitist arrogant judicial prick. If you don't like it, you can quit and get a real job.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 28, 2010 05:02 PM (eOrdQ)

3 I feel like I missed something in all of this. AK conservative voters wanted to get rid of Murky so they voted for Miller in the primary. Murky, being the sore loser, says she's going to run as a write in. Why the effing hell would voters vote for Miller as their guy and then turn around and vote write in for Murky? Or are there enough idiots who went in to do a "protest" vote and fucked up the spelling of her name instead of effing voting for Miller and thus giving her the badly spelled ballots as votes?

Posted by: Rum, Goddess of Doom at December 28, 2010 05:03 PM (YxBuk)

4 Oh, and as a note, perhaps it would be a good idea for every single state, and the federal government to hire some people to game and  test their  processes for things like write in ballots and recounts.

It seems that we consistently see that fairly clear laws and rules are thrown out the window at the last minute because the Democrat/liberal doesn't like the outcome.


Posted by: 18-1 at December 28, 2010 05:04 PM (bgcml)

5 It seems that we consistently see that fairly clear laws and rules are thrown out the window at the last minute because the Democrat/liberal doesn't like the outcome.

I don't get why people tolerate it. At least Miller didn't roll over and die as easily as Coleman did, but still. Why is the populace so apathetic this stuff doesn't bother anyone?

And why the hell does the GOP tolerate it? (Entirely rhetorical.)

Posted by: Rum, Goddess of Doom at December 28, 2010 05:06 PM (YxBuk)

6
And why the hell does the GOP tolerate it? (Entirely rhetorical.)

Posted by: Rum, Goddess of Doom at December 28, 2010 09:06 PM (YxBuk)

Honestly, this would be a tough hill to fight on. Murky probably did get more votes then Miller - thanks to illegal actions on the part of the state - but the vote count would matter.

Something like the Rossi (04) or Coleman (06) election though? The Reps should have refused to give up. At the very least why the hell did the former not lead to a specific FBI election task force?


Posted by: 18-1 at December 28, 2010 05:11 PM (bgcml)

7  Why the effing hell would voters vote for Miller as their guy and then turn around and vote write in for Murky? Or are there enough idiots who went in to do a "protest" vote and fucked up the spelling of her name instead of effing voting for Miller and thus giving her the badly spelled ballots as votes?

Posted by: Rum, Goddess of Doom at December 28, 2010 09:03 PM (YxBuk)

about half the dems voted for murkey because they knew miller would win if they didn't.

Posted by: robtr at December 28, 2010 05:12 PM (hVDig)

8 You know what? We don't "need" Murky now. Sure, we needed her vote to keep filibusters together, but now we can get to 41 votes more easily.

Strip her of her seniority and kick her in the fupa, is what I say.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at December 28, 2010 05:14 PM (jmJF+)

9 It's about judicial power. Miller will not win this election. What is the harm in letting Miller win this? It would set the precedent that laws mean what they say. The tyranny of the corrupt legal profession continues apace.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 28, 2010 05:15 PM (eOrdQ)

10 Where's coked-up bear?

Posted by: Dr. Eviler at December 28, 2010 05:16 PM (TYjys)

11 I FUCKING LOVE COCAINE!

Posted by: Coked Up Bear at December 28, 2010 05:17 PM (eCAn3)

12 Doesn't anyone lose with class anymore?  A pox on both Murkowski and Miller

Posted by: Ombudsman at December 28, 2010 05:19 PM (c1oyg)

13 3 I feel like I missed something in all of this. AK conservative voters wanted to get rid of Murky so they voted for Miller in the primary. Murky, being the sore loser, says she's going to run as a write in. Why the effing hell would voters vote for Miller as their guy and then turn around and vote write in for Murky? Or are there enough idiots who went in to do a "protest" vote and fucked up the spelling of her name instead of effing voting for Miller and thus giving her the badly spelled ballots as votes?

Posted by: Rum, Goddess of Doom at December 28, 2010 09:03 PM (YxBuk)

I want to know how there are over 40,000 more votes for the senate race than the governors race.

Posted by: buzzion at December 28, 2010 05:19 PM (oVQFe)

14 Oh and 40,000 more than the the house election too.

Posted by: buzzion at December 28, 2010 05:20 PM (oVQFe)

15 If voter intent is paramount, why did the legislature write a law that says something very different? I thought the Constitution was paramount, and it says the State legislatures write election laws. And why do voters fail to make their intentions perfectly clear by following the law and the rules derived from the law? What national nightmare? (Tongue in cheek?)

Posted by: eman at December 28, 2010 05:21 PM (XXyJt)

16 this is just a conspiracy to make sarah look bad.  like the last 7,000 polls that say she won't win against odumbo.  conspiracy at the highest levels!!!!!1!

Posted by: rabid palin fan at December 28, 2010 05:22 PM (4zKre)

17 eman personality #1: Typical lawyer. Licking Judicial Branch ass. eman personality #2: OMG, that was so mean! Say you're sorry right now! eman personality #1: Fuck off!

Posted by: eman at December 28, 2010 05:25 PM (XXyJt)

18

I mean seriously look at the numbers

Senate

Murkowski: 92,715

Miller: 90,468

McAdams: 59,825

Murki Contested: 8,153

Total: 251,161

Governor

Parnell: 119,347

Berkowitz: 77,552

Others: 5,825

Total: 202,724

House Race:

Young: 139,034

Crawford: 61,867

Total: 200,901

Doesn't that just scream bullshit and rigged to you?  Like I said I would love to see how many votes for Murkowski had very similar hand writing. that would only vary between a few hundred people

Posted by: buzzion at December 28, 2010 05:27 PM (oVQFe)

19 Will a bitter Murkowski turn the Maine twins into the treasonous triplets. Yup!

Posted by: Ohio Dan at December 28, 2010 05:27 PM (DYGlf)

20 long national nightmare? really? Because something seriously stinks in the outcome we should just bend over? 40,000 more votes for Murkowski than for the governor or any other race, and a lot of those have similar handwriting. Alaska state law is indeed clear that one cannot campaign near voting location and yet Murky was allowed to hand out a flyer with her name on it.

Posted by: g at December 28, 2010 05:28 PM (n2jRF)

21 O/T  http://tiny.cc/n8r91

Mitch Daniels talks about job creation.  His way of bringing companies here to Indiana is being copied by Wisconsin and Ohio.

Just curious what outsiders think of the way Mitch Daniels talks and conducts himself... doe he look Presidential?  I live here so I am partial..

Posted by: Timbo at December 28, 2010 05:29 PM (ph9vn)

22 Isn't this like the 10th or 11th "endgame" declaration on Miller vs. Murky? Let's face it: Miller is a crank, and he's here to stay.

Posted by: CoolCzech at December 28, 2010 05:30 PM (tJjm/)

23 Notice how Gabe never ever mentioned that fact in all his posts about this race.  Its because it doesn't revolve around how our joke of judicial system gets to play kings of the land and screw over the people.

Posted by: buzzion at December 28, 2010 05:30 PM (oVQFe)

24 Howdy!  So is this the football thread? 

TD Vikings!!!!


Posted by: Y-not at December 28, 2010 05:31 PM (IDL9N)

25 Mitch Daniels seems to be pretty good on numbers and completely insincere in every thing else.  He sounds like a backstabber.

I have family in Indiana, through my sis-in-law and they LOVE him, so whadda I know? ; )

Posted by: red state girl at December 28, 2010 05:31 PM (4zKre)

26 18, You sure about these numbers?

Posted by: eman at December 28, 2010 05:31 PM (XXyJt)

27

Doesn't that just scream bullshit and rigged to you?  Like I said I would love to see how many votes for Murkowski had very similar hand writing. that would only vary between a few hundred people

Posted by: buzzion at December 28, 2010 09:27 PM (oVQFe)

Is there a comparison between boroughs/precincts?

If say all 40k extra ballots come from 2 boroughs it would be pretty clear evidence of fraud - if there is an even distribution, it would most likely be real.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 28, 2010 05:33 PM (bgcml)

28 24 Howdy!  So is this the football thread? 

TD Vikings!!!!


Posted by: Y-not at December 28, 2010 09:31 PM (IDL9N)

I'm so torn on the game.  I don't really care about the Vick-love.  Whatever he's served his time and as long as he keeps his nose clean good for him.  But I can't stand the Vikings currently, and absolutely detest DeSean Jackson's antics.

Posted by: buzzion at December 28, 2010 05:34 PM (oVQFe)

29 Meanwhile, since I'm thread-jacking (because AoSHQ is apparently land o' pussies who don't watch football)... we had this for dinner:  farro risotto with butternut squash, ham, sage, and toasted walnuts.  Very tasty and - I think - moderately "good for you."  The squash replace things like cream and butter that might be ordinarily used to make the risotto creamy.  Also, farro is a whole grain, so I think it's good for you.

And wine. Plenty of wine.  *hic*

Posted by: Y-not at December 28, 2010 05:35 PM (IDL9N)

30 Howdy!  So is this the football thread?  TD Vikings!!!!

Posted by: Y-not at December 28, 2010 09:31 PM (IDL9N)

They'll need defensive scores, because I don't think they'll put any offensive points on the board.  Philly looks like crap, and they're still tied.

Posted by: Ombudsman at December 28, 2010 05:36 PM (c1oyg)

31 26 18,

You sure about these numbers?

Posted by: eman at December 28, 2010 09:31 PM (XXyJt)

See the link at 13.  Election result tallies from the New York Times page.

Posted by: buzzion at December 28, 2010 05:36 PM (oVQFe)

32 But I can't stand the Vikings currently, and absolutely detest DeSean Jackson's antics.

Posted by: buzzion at December 28, 2010 09:34 PM (oVQFe)

Amen.  What a player, but grow the hell up

Posted by: Ombudsman at December 28, 2010 05:37 PM (c1oyg)

33 long national nightmare? really?

Jesus, people. Helpful hint: when you read someone quoting or paraphrasing Gerald Ford's most frequently repeated quote, it's very likely meant to be irony or sarcasm.

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at December 28, 2010 05:37 PM (XVaFd)

34 Posted by: buzzion at December 28, 2010 09:34 PM

Yeah, I don't like either team. 

If pressed, I hate the Eagles more.  But that's just because the entire city sucks (and blows) and I hate how the league (and Obama) have propped up Vick like he was someone worthy of admiration.  (And I don't think a guy who tortures a sentient being is capable of rehabilitation... at least, not based on what I've seen of Vick.) 

I don't like the Vikings either with their clear violation of rules about contacting Favre early.  And Favre is an embarrassment. 

At the end of the day, I'm just rooting for the Vikes because I have them in the pick 'em league. 

Posted by: Y-not at December 28, 2010 05:39 PM (IDL9N)

35 35 long national nightmare? really? The FCC is pulling the plug on AoSHQ?

Posted by: CoolCzech at December 28, 2010 05:40 PM (tJjm/)

36

Phillthy--best kicker in the league and they boo him for missing a 54.

Nice game WVU. Chumps.

Posted by: USS Diversity at December 28, 2010 05:40 PM (DLxD/)

37 If pressed, I hate the Eagles more.  But that's just because the entire city sucks (and blows)

Posted by: Y-not at December 28, 2010 09:39 PM (IDL9N)

And what exactly do you have against William Penn's fine countrie towne, and the Cradle of Liberty?

Posted by: Ombudsman at December 28, 2010 05:41 PM (c1oyg)

38 Off on a tangent here, but got my National Review today (got back from UP, eh). They had a whole article on Bolton running for Pres. I kept thinking "YES YES YES".  I think he's my guy.

Posted by: Navin R Johnson at December 28, 2010 05:41 PM (HpT9p)

39 Oh, and if the Vikes can keep Vick in check, I win my first FF league (and $500).

Pox on you, Vick (wiggling fingers at the TV).

Posted by: Navin R Johnson at December 28, 2010 05:44 PM (HpT9p)

40 It's not the end game, it's the credits that roll after the final cutscene.

Posted by: CrustyB at December 28, 2010 05:44 PM (qzgbP)

41 Notice how Gabe never ever mentioned that fact in all his posts about this race.  Its because it doesn't revolve around how our joke of judicial system gets to play kings of the land and screw over the people.

You mean all my posts about Miller's election lawsuit? His lawsuit in which even he didn't raise your conspiracy theory idea? This is the first time I've heard of it. Then again, I don't spend much time at Prison Planet.

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at December 28, 2010 05:44 PM (XVaFd)

42 Iowahawk tweeted this: Boy it's snowy in NY! [how snowy is it?] It's so snowy, Park Slope hipsters are eating each other unironically #TipYourWaitress web • 12/28/10 8:28 PM Now THAT'S irony.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 28, 2010 05:45 PM (eOrdQ)

43 And what exactly do you have against William Penn's fine countrie towne, and the Cradle of Liberty

Well, the fans of every single sport.

Their pussy mayor. 

I'm quite impressed by the young fellows manning the polling places, too. 

Andy Reid seems like a bad dad. 

Really, what's to like? 


And they're in my division (I am born and bred a Skins fan). 

Posted by: Y-not at December 28, 2010 05:46 PM (IDL9N)

44 Off on a tangent here, but got my National Review today (got back from UP, eh). They had a whole article on Bolton running for Pres. I kept thinking "YES YES YES".  I think he's my guy.

Posted by: Navin R Johnson at December 28, 2010 09:41 PM (HpT9p)

Great quote in that article that Bolton cites: After the Bay of Pigs, Kennedy called Nixon, from whom months earlier he had stolen the election, and asked: "it's really all about foreign policy, isn't it?  I mean who gives a shit if the minimum wage is $1.15 or $1.25, with all this going on?"

Posted by: Ombudsman at December 28, 2010 05:46 PM (c1oyg)

45

27

Doesn't that just scream bullshit and rigged to you?  Like I said I would love to see how many votes for Murkowski had very similar hand writing. that would only vary between a few hundred people

Posted by: buzzion at December 28, 2010 09:27 PM (oVQFe)

Is there a comparison between boroughs/precincts?

If say all 40k extra ballots come from 2 boroughs it would be pretty clear evidence of fraud - if there is an even distribution, it would most likely be real.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 28, 2010 09:33 PM (bgcml)

I just went to an alaska website and it seems like their numbers are a bit more consistent.  And there is no 40,000 vote discrepency.  You would think that they would take the time to update the numbers so it doesn't look so wierd though.  So I'll go ahead and withdraw my suspicions of stuffing ballot boxes by 40,000 votes for the coke-bear.

Posted by: buzzion at December 28, 2010 05:46 PM (oVQFe)

46 I had just watched Bud Greenspan's doc on Munich 72 the day before he died. I'd had it TiVo'd for weeks.

Posted by: USS Diversity at December 28, 2010 05:47 PM (DLxD/)

47 30, Y-not:  Something about butternut squash and ham.  I'll have to try that.  We'll serve two variants of chili for the televised University of Washington vs Nebraska bloodbath.  A moderately spiced chili with beans for the wimps, generally the Seattle natives, then my much hotter meatless version...  Shall I, to use the somewhat outmoded term, be a gentleman and warn them beforehand?  That is the question.

Posted by: Skookumchuk at December 28, 2010 05:50 PM (btzPD)

48 Oh and Ed Rendell is the biggest asshole in the history of assholes. The largest assholes in the world are: 3) An African elephant's asshole 2) A blue whale's asshole 1) Ed Rendell

Posted by: AmishDude at December 28, 2010 05:50 PM (eOrdQ)

49 Shall I, to use the somewhat outmoded term, be a gentleman and warn them beforehand?  That is the question.

Nah!  Let 'em eat cake!

Posted by: Y-not at December 28, 2010 05:52 PM (IDL9N)

50 "Murky will be seated in time to keep her seniority." That's the part I don't get - she ran as a write-in, defeating the Republican nominee. What obligation does the Senate GOP have to bend over and seat her as if she was, you know, a Republican? I'm not suggesting that Mushy Mitch won't cave like a Chilean mine, mind you. But what "obligation" does the GOP have to seat Hercokeski with seniority?

Posted by: DocJ at December 28, 2010 05:53 PM (AWzOz)

51

You mean all my posts about Miller's election lawsuit? His lawsuit in which even he didn't raise your conspiracy theory idea? This is the first time I've heard of it. Then again, I don't spend much time at Prison Planet.

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at December 28, 2010 09:44 PM (XVaFd)

Sorry I don't go to Prison Planet.  I was looking at the numbers with my own eyes from something that should have been at least a relatively consistent source.  So you can go back to your mocking of Miller contesting everything and explaining how the judges are right about voter intent yet before they invalidated election law to allow the list of write-ins so people wouldn't screw up her name when writing it down.

Remember, a list must be available at all polling locations so you know how to spell her name correctly, but if you don't spell it correctly thats ok as well.

Posted by: buzzion at December 28, 2010 05:53 PM (oVQFe)

52 An a native Philadelphian, I must take a break from criticizing my city to actually defend it:

Well, the fans of every single sport.  Most of that is bullshit promulgated by media too lazy to develop a new narrative.  I've attended lots of games in DC and New York.  There's no difference.  And please don't bring up the snowballs / Santa Claus thing. I won't bore you with the facts, but it was warranted. 

Their pussy mayor.  Nutter is indeed a pussy, but the ultimate decision to cancel the game was the NFL's, not the city's

I'm quite impressed by the young fellows manning the polling places, too.  Hey, blame Holder's justice dept. for that.  They had what amounted to a guilty plea and dropped the charges

Andy Reid seems like a bad dad.  The tragedy of substance abuse affects lots of American families.  You adapt and address.  Tony Dungy's son tragically committed suicide.  Is he a bad dad?

And they're in my division (I am born and bred a Skins fan).  Ah, the real reason

Posted by: Y-not at December 28, 2010 09:46 PM (IDL9N)

Posted by: Ombudsman at December 28, 2010 06:01 PM (c1oyg)

53 Buzzion #1:

Notice how Gabe never ever mentioned that fact in all his posts about this race.  Its because it doesn't revolve around how our joke of judicial system gets to play kings of the land and screw over the people.


Buzzion #2:

I just went to an alaska website and it seems like their numbers are a bit more consistent. And there is no 40,000 vote discrepency.


There's a word I'm looking for here...oh yeah: jackass.

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at December 28, 2010 06:16 PM (XVaFd)

54 Posted by: AmishDude at December 28, 2010 09:50 PM (eOrdQ)

he might be an asshole, but he's dead right about the complete lack of balls on display in the NFL lately

Posted by: Unclefacts, Confuse A Cat, Ltd. at December 28, 2010 06:23 PM (eCAn3)

55

Yep I'm a jackass.  I have the audacity to post my views and opinions on things.  And I'll even retract what I was saying when I was wrong.  I don't have the luxury of hiding my opinions behind posts and acting like I'm only reporting straight news. 

Posted by: buzzion at December 28, 2010 06:24 PM (oVQFe)

56 You had the audacity to accuse me of hiding the existence of a conspiracy theory that existed only inside your head. That was low. Of course, you're welcome to post your views and opinions. I will do the same, thankyouverymuch.

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at December 28, 2010 06:41 PM (XVaFd)

57 I hate politicians.  Even the "good" ones don't seem like they're all that good, if any.

I know it's bad of me to say, but if a terrorist took out Washington DC with a nuke, would that be a bad thing or a good thing?

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at December 28, 2010 06:47 PM (bvfVF)

58

Actually I had the audacity to accuse you of not talking about it because it doesn't fit into your little world where judges and lawyers get to rule as kings.

But yeah ok its all back to the fact that what the lawyers and judges say goes.  They get to invalidate the election law and allow the list of write-in names to ensure her name is spelled correctly.  And then they get to invalidate the law and make it ok for the name to be misspelled.  It must be so awesome to be a member of the royalty of the country.

Posted by: buzzion at December 28, 2010 06:47 PM (oVQFe)

59

"voter intent is paramount."

 

So this Judge just declared that we are a Democracy, NOT a Republic, as the Constitution says...

Intereting.

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 28, 2010 06:53 PM (AdK6a)

60 Y-not hasn't figured out bacon risotto yet, Archangel.

Posted by: CAC at December 28, 2010 06:54 PM (lV4Fs)

61

<i>I feel like I missed something in all of this. AK conservative voters wanted to get rid of Murky so they voted for Miller in the primary. Murky, being the sore loser, says she's going to run as a write in. Why the effing hell would voters vote for Miller as their guy and then turn around and vote write in for Murky?</i>

Because not all voters in AK are conservative base voters.  Alaska independents carried Murky over the finish line.  The conservative base doesn't get to decide every election.  If they did, we'd have 100 Christine O'Donnells in the Senate.

Posted by: Dave at December 28, 2010 07:12 PM (jDS1m)

62

What is the harm in letting Miller win this?

You do realize that even if the court agrees with Miller's interpretation of the law, Murkowski would still be ahead? 

What you mean to say is, "what's the harm in the court creating a standard that will give the election to Miller, thus making me feel all warm and fuzzy inside."

Posted by: Dave at December 28, 2010 07:18 PM (jDS1m)

63 66

What is the harm in letting Miller win this?

You do realize that even if the court agrees with Miller's interpretation of the law, Murkowski would still be ahead? 

What you mean to say is, "what's the harm in the court creating a standard that will give the election to Miller, thus making me feel all warm and fuzzy inside."

Posted by: Dave at December 28, 2010 11:18 PM (jDS1m)

Considering his line before you quoted him was "Miller will not win this election"  He knows that Murkowski would still win.  In other words he's aware that the winner of the election does not hinge on the decision of our joke of a judicial system.

Posted by: buzzion at December 28, 2010 07:23 PM (oVQFe)

64

In view of the sleazy and senseless stunts that Sarah Palin pulled to viciously sabotage Lisa Murcowski's campaign on the phoniest of pretexts, and for no other reasons than just to be bitchy and vindictive, Lisa Murkowski deserved to win. 

Indeed, Palin's bitchiness, viciousness and sleaziness backfired on her.

 With their votes after they learned that they gad been deceived by Palin, et al, in the primary, the people of Alaska showed their disgust with Palin and their high regard for Murkowski by turning out in higher numbers to vote for Murcowski in the general election.

All that Palin accomplished was that she pushed Murkowski even  further into the liberal camp than she was already, and Palin earned more contempt from many Alaskans than she had already following other irresponsible and childish stunts which she pulled, also. Palin could not get elected to Dog Catcher in Alaska now.  She is a fraud, and she is a selfish and self-centered, spoiled brat. She doesn't have ANY credibility

In all fairness, congratulations are in order for Lisa Murkowski. She ran a good, fair and honest campaign.

In this case at the prodding of Palin, it was Miller who ran a dirty campaign, dirtier than campaigns run by some Democrats. That creep is just a shill and a stooge for Palin. If he has any brains, he will distance himself from Palin ASAP.

Posted by: Brian at December 29, 2010 03:32 AM (sYrWB)

65

Before you attack my opinions on this issue, TRY to be fair and objective.

Sarah Palin has shown repeatedly that she has TERRIBLE judgment, that she is a loose cannon and that she is strictly a self-promoter - NOT a team player, nor even a good judge of character, because that fraud is so lacking in character herself.

With her terrible judgment and extremely irresponsible behavior, she sabotaged McCain's presidential campaign, Murkowski's senatorial campaign, Lowden's senatorial campaign and Castle's senatorial campaign, to name just a few that immediately come to mind. Palin has neither the experience, nor the good judgment, nor any qualifications whatsoever to endorse political candidates. She is neurotic - a beauty pageant contestant who lost, but who won't get off the stage, 'cause she continues to believe that she is just sooooo cutesy, and with your ill-conceived admiration of that neurotic phony, you continue to feed her delusions.

Wake up and smell the coffee. Sarah Palin is doing more harm than good.  For emphasis, I reiterate; Sarah Palin is strictly a self-promoter. She doesn't give a damn about you or about what is in the best interests of this country.

Posted by: Brian at December 29, 2010 04:17 AM (sYrWB)

66 With her terrible judgment and extremely irresponsible behavior, she sabotaged McCain's presidential campaign, Murkowski's senatorial campaign, Lowden's senatorial campaign and Castle's senatorial campaign,

Posted by: Blue Hen at December 29, 2010 05:12 AM (1O93r)

67 Greetings from Delaware Brian.

You don't know what you are talking about. Castle's primary campaign has been detailed repeatedly, by myself and others. He ran a terrible campaign here. Also, you seem to be suggesting either that no one should be allowed to conduct a primary challenge, or if you are gracious enough to permit it, then it shouldn't be Palin doing the endorsing. As a citizen of the United States I am glad to be the first to say, fuck you. She "sabotaged" nothing. Try learning the definition of the word. If you tried instead " she promoted a faulty challenger that couldn't win but which could derail a more electable candidate, then you are closer. If anyone "sobotaged" Castle's candidacy, it was Castle, whom no one here, especially the cob-loggers, are honest enough to admit. That asshole was bragging about his cap and trade vote in the Weekly Standard the day before the primary. Leeme guess; Palin forced him to do that?

The best indication that you are not an honest broker here is the gag that somehow "Murkowski  ran a good, fair and honest campaign" And that of course included her whoring around the Libertarians for their place on the ballot. And the name bracelets. And the list.

Keep fucking some other chicken.

Posted by: Blue Hen at December 29, 2010 05:21 AM (1O93r)

68 You are entitled to your opinion, blue hen. I'll refrain from getting personal with you, because I recognize that passions run high on that issue, and so it isn't always easy to stick to the issues, and besides, I've already made my valid points..

Posted by: Brian at December 29, 2010 05:41 AM (sYrWB)

69 > Murky will be seated in time to keep her seniority.
Why? She was not the Republican candidate.  If she does keep her seniority, then we know that the Republican senators are still playing the same old, same old....

Posted by: mysterian at December 29, 2010 06:52 AM (/0VO4)

70 I've already made my valid points..

That implies that you submitted some sort of proof. Any proof. You made a series of accusations, including the claim that Palin is neurotic. And that's not getting personal?

Instead of hiding, try proving that Palin 'sabotaged' Castle's oh so wonderful primary campaign. Don't forget to cote sources and to refrain from getting personal.

Posted by: Blue Hen at December 29, 2010 07:00 AM (1O93r)

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Murky lost the primary because of a couple reasons. She thought she had it in the bag along with her supporters. I would bet that the nate vote especially in the bush was nil to non-existant. There was no passion to run and win.

Miller and his supporters had that in spades. Also it's a closed primary, registered dems couldn't vote for her.

She eventually won because she was able to whip all those voting catagories into a frenzy with the fear of losing fed dollars and spotlighting Miller as a far right loon (which he gave her plenty of ammo to shoot with). Registered dems could see that there was no way McAdams was going to win so they basically voted against Miller also knowing that Murky is a pretty liberal repub.

She ran an effective campaign, pulling out all the stops and Miller didn't. Those that saw through the b.s. voted Miller, all 90,000 +. Which is a pretty solid number of registered voters in Alaska.

 

 

Posted by: Bosk at December 29, 2010 08:00 AM (pUO5u)

72

Oh, and brian? Palin's done more to push the conservative movement in the right direction than any others out there. Your irrational hatred for all things Palin is clouding your judgement.

And that fair and honest bullshit about Murkowski's campaign? You obviously have had your head stuck up your ass for the last couple of months because she did everything that I would expect a member of the Alaska Mafia would do to win.

Posted by: Bosk at December 29, 2010 08:21 AM (pUO5u)

73 Let me see if I'm understanding the process. We have primaries where Democrats elect their candidate and Republicans elect theirs. Then the 2 run in a general election where Dems and Reps can decide on the 2 OR write in someone else. When the polls close, the person with the most votes wins. Of course, discrepancies or questionable votes are subject to review and can be omitted. Murkowshi, after the review, gets well over 2K unquestionable votes than anyone else. It sounds to me like the folks in Alaska made their choice. Seems like cry baby Joe should break out his hankie, quit stomping his feet, pull up them big boy Huggies, and just STFU.

Posted by: andy42302 at December 29, 2010 08:35 AM (DD8Gy)

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Miller just wanted the state to follow the law as it was written concerning write in ballots. It has nothing to do with hankies, stomping or huggies. If you want to go that route Murkowski said in a town hall meeting that she would respect the will of the voter in the primary. She lost and showed that her word means nothing because she pursued the write in. I can picture her after the primary loss stomping her feet and crying "but daddy gave it to me, it's mine!" I'm sure that she campaigned more for her and "her" seat than she did for the good of Alaska.

She threw away her word and threw away votes. Dispicable actions if you ask me.

Posted by: Bosk at December 29, 2010 08:49 AM (pUO5u)

75

On a side note, Miller contacted the FBI regarding alledged fraud, sworn statements and affidavits of witnesses election crimes.  The FBI refused to look at the case and said that they would only pursue if the Courts ruled that there was alledged crime.  

While two of the Judges made a big stink about the Miller campaign not bringing up alledged crimes and fraud earlier, and stated that this should have been brought up to the State Division of Elections and/or the FEC.  Although he did, he had already done this, and they directed him to the FBI, and of course they directed him back to the courts. 

The FBI had the most interesting take on the alledged voter fraud.....their take on it was, they didn't want a part of it.  They anticipated retribution from Murkowski if they proceeded with an investigation and Murkowski still won.

Posted by: ice at December 29, 2010 09:06 AM (9kWgN)

76 Chicago politicians are pussies.

Posted by: Lisa Murcokesky at December 29, 2010 09:22 AM (pUO5u)

77 Too bad Miller didn't get an "Activist Judge" to help him throw away more American's votes....

Why are rethuglicans always trying to disqualify votes? Sounds kinda evil.... But that's just me..

Posted by: Jimmy-Joe at December 29, 2010 09:32 AM (cNMOr)

78 Hey Jimmy, you carrying? I'll blow you for a line?

Posted by: Lisa Murcokesky at December 29, 2010 09:46 AM (pUO5u)

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#77: Alaskan Mafia, huh? LOL. Who would that be? Eskimos? Get real.

BTW, there are thousands of much more effective Republicans who have done a helluvalot more to establish, to advance (and to preserve) conservatism than that self-promoting, phony, little Miss Cutesy, has ..., like, for example, to name a few in random sequence; Jesse Helms, Jeff Sessions, Bill Buckley, Newt Gingrich, Barry Goldwater, Mitch McConnell, Ronald Reagan, Paul Ryan, Eric Cantor, Mitch Daniels, Lee Atwater,  John Boehner, Marco Rubio and Karl Rove.

You and blue hen want to deal in bullshit? Fine. That's your prerogative. I deal in facts.

Pay attention, and try to keep up, will you? Your ignorance is stunning.

Posted by: Brian at December 29, 2010 02:40 PM (sYrWB)

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#75: Hiding, huh? LOL. Yeah, right. Get real.

But wait ..., wait ..., don't tell me. You supported and voted for Christine O'Donnell, right?

A simple yes or no will suffice.  I don't want you to embarass yourself with an explanation.

Posted by: Brian at December 29, 2010 03:02 PM (sYrWB)

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