July 22, 2010
— DrewM A must watch video shamelessly stolen from The Corner.
Allah has the answer to the mystery behind why Greene was discharged from the Air Force. There's no polite way to put this, Green's not very bright.
The reviewer also wrote Greene “required a daily to-do list” to perform basic duties and had a “consistent inability to follow instructions or maintain basic job knowledge.” Most seriously, the reviewer wrote that Greene would represent “a threat to others” because of his inability to grasp the basics of military training.
It's a fine line between laughing at a guy who honestly just doesn't seem all there and the mess the Democrats are in having nominated this guy. Let's be honest, a Republican wouldn't get any breaks. Besides, the Senate is mostly rich guys, not a Mensa chapter.
If this guy were running against Lindsay Graham, I'd send him money.
Idle thought...Greene's actually going to get a bunch of votes based on the publicity and the mood of the country (he's as close to "none of the above" as you're going to see). What percentage does he wind up with and if enough people decide to throw and pity/protest vote to him thinking, "he'll never win"...could he?
If it weren't at the expense of DeMint, I'd love to see Senator Greene.
Who's with me on the Greene in '14 bandwagon?
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Posted by: Bill D. Cat at July 22, 2010 02:14 PM (NuAIL)
Did I, a lowly long time lurker, get a first?
Posted by: not a piping plover at July 22, 2010 02:15 PM (VXq9i)
Posted by: not a piping plover at July 22, 2010 02:16 PM (VXq9i)
The only votes he will get are the blacks and > 90 year old whites who have voted Dem since FDR and who will not change.
IOW, DeMint by 75% because even though 40% of the State is black Obama is not on the ballot and they will not turn out.
Posted by: Vic at July 22, 2010 02:17 PM (/jbAw)
But he got a degree in political science from the University of South Carolina. I mean, he majored in political science, how dumb can he be? /s
Posted by: AmishDude at July 22, 2010 02:17 PM (T0NGe)
Posted by: Jim in San Diego at July 22, 2010 02:20 PM (oIp16)
There's a movie idea in here somewhere...
Posted by: Robert Downey, Sr. at July 22, 2010 02:20 PM (yUybe)
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In fairness, most of our husbands require a list as well. Am I right, ladies? ;-)
Posted by: Y-not at July 22, 2010 02:20 PM (O627A)
But he got a degree in political science from the University of South Carolina. I mean, he majored in political science, how dumb can he be? /s
Comrade Zero got a law degree from Harvard. (Maybe.) What factor do both results have in common?
Posted by: Cicero at July 22, 2010 02:20 PM (QKKT0)
That should tell you what it takes to get a degree in Poly-Sci at USC. The only course easier would be journalism.
Also, how do we know he actually got a degree?
Posted by: Vic at July 22, 2010 02:21 PM (/jbAw)
I'd lay money that his SAT math score was better than The Precedent's.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at July 22, 2010 02:21 PM (Qp4DT)
Posted by: MAJ O at July 22, 2010 02:21 PM (ThQkB)
Posted by: davidt at July 22, 2010 02:22 PM (HtIec)
Yes, what is the Greatest Common Factor of those two things? Is there anything you would say is Derivative of both of those fields of endeavor? Can you Integrate this into a unified theory? The more I think about this, the Tensor I get.
Posted by: AmishDude at July 22, 2010 02:22 PM (T0NGe)
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at July 22, 2010 02:22 PM (JSghx)
Posted by: Keith Arnold at July 22, 2010 02:23 PM (Jdtsu)
I'll tell you what. If Greene doesn't accidentally kill himself with an immersion blender or forget to stop his car before getting out and he's around to run in '14 against Lindsey, I'll pony up $1000 to his campaign.
Posted by: runninrebel at July 22, 2010 02:23 PM (i3PJU)
In one respect he's superior to those smug, greedy hacks in Congress: while he wants bobblehead dolls made in his image, they are living bobbleheads.
Except for Zombie Ted Kennedy and Zombie Exalted Cyclops Byrd. Aren't their votes still being counted?
Posted by: MrScribbler at July 22, 2010 02:23 PM (Ulu3i)
Posted by: Mætenloch at July 22, 2010 02:23 PM (f5vi+)
Posted by: AmishDude at July 22, 2010 06:22 PM (T0NGe)
You just need to relax your Spinor.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at July 22, 2010 02:23 PM (Qp4DT)
Posted by: Sheila Jackson-Lee, Yale 1972 at July 22, 2010 02:24 PM (NmcJ6)
So, what you're saying is that Alvin Greene is Patty Murray with a cock.
Posted by: Sharkman, Disgruntled Washington State Voter at July 22, 2010 02:24 PM (Zj8fM)
Posted by: stuiec at July 22, 2010 02:25 PM (7AOgy)
Posted by: A Wise, Empathetic Latina who knows that Spanish has no adkectives, idiots! at July 22, 2010 02:26 PM (Qp4DT)
My God, how many senators do they get?
Posted by: huerfano at July 22, 2010 02:27 PM (NmcJ6)
Posted by: Jollyroger at July 22, 2010 02:27 PM (79BNz)
My God, how many senators do they get?
Posted by: huerfano at July 22, 2010 06:27 PM (NmcJ6)
53% would be fair. But they took a few extra.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at July 22, 2010 02:27 PM (Qp4DT)
Posted by: hueydiamondpooty at July 22, 2010 02:27 PM (rJp/M)
Posted by: MENSA at July 22, 2010 02:28 PM (JpzeY)
That should tell you what it takes to get a degree in Poly-Sci at USC. The only course easier would be journalism.
Some of us also know how easy it was to teach Poli Sci at USC, even if it was only for a year.
I had some pretty good students there to be honest. Though there were your share of slackers too, of course. But the department is an unmitigated clusterfuck of ego, stupidity, and liberalism, even by any social science department standard.
Posted by: Doc at July 22, 2010 02:29 PM (MYT77)
Look at the way the left is selective with regards to intellect. Palin is "not smart" but whatever deficiencies that Greene has are not an issue. Cognative dissonance is not a problem for the left.
Posted by: AmishDude at July 22, 2010 02:29 PM (T0NGe)
"A draw is declared in the 'Least Qualified Man in Any Room He Enters' competition."
Posted by: Sharkman at July 22, 2010 02:29 PM (Zj8fM)
If Sarah Palin were a Democrat -- with the exact same policy views -- she would have been hailed as a working class hero and a "mom in running shoes" or a "mom in high heels".
Posted by: AmishDude at July 22, 2010 02:31 PM (T0NGe)
Posted by: memomachine at July 22, 2010 02:31 PM (MwCol)
Posted by: ACLU at July 22, 2010 02:32 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 22, 2010 02:32 PM (5jbD3)
Political
Human
Sacrifice
Interfering with the positive feedback loop that is the GOP nomination process is where it's at. If they are still nominating the likes of Lindsay Graham or John McCain then we support the Dem as long as they are not a complete loon.
Posted by: Jim in San Diego at July 22, 2010 02:32 PM (oIp16)
Posted by: dagny at July 22, 2010 02:33 PM (eIn6+)
#AckermanActionFlix
Iowahawk:@jtLOL Ackerman unleashes his .38 Norelco TrimMaster in GROOMED FOR DEATH #AckermanActionFlix
Posted by: Garbonzo the Garrulous at July 22, 2010 02:33 PM (oL8lS)
I'll take "not very bright" over I'm the smartest sum-bitch on the planet who occupies the White House.
Posted by: Fish at July 22, 2010 02:33 PM (v1gw3)
Posted by: memomachine at July 22, 2010 06:31 PM (MwCol)
Sexist!!
Posted by: dagny at July 22, 2010 02:34 PM (eIn6+)
He had two challengers in 2008 primary and then a run-off against one.
Meanwhile all the polls were urging voters to vote in the Dem primary at the runoff level because the republicans offered no candidates in a lot of the races and if you didn't vote in the Dem primary you didn't get to vote for that office at all.
What is funny is that yes he won the primary by a wide margin but did not win the general election by much. His win was less than McCain's in taking the State. That meant that Republicans split their vote and did not vote for him.
Posted by: Vic at July 22, 2010 02:34 PM (/jbAw)
USC is a very good school. I know some members of the math department. They are quite brilliant.
The problem is polisci as a discipline, not to mention all of the social sciences and humanities. They have a major major problem with quality control.
Posted by: AmishDude at July 22, 2010 02:35 PM (T0NGe)
Posted by: Sigh at July 22, 2010 02:36 PM (jexdb)
Posted by: AmishDude at July 22, 2010 06:17 PM (T0NGe)
That's not funny, man
Posted by: poli sci guy at July 22, 2010 02:36 PM (JrRME)
If this guy was president he would do a whole lot less damage than the current top 2-guys would. Nothing would get done. He'd probably forget he was the President.
Posted by: Editor at July 22, 2010 02:37 PM (pUfK9)
That's not funny, man
Posted by: poli sci guy at July 22, 2010 06:36 PM (JrRME)
Hey, I'm a mathematician, at least all we have to deal with is teh crazy, not teh stupid.
Posted by: AmishDude at July 22, 2010 02:38 PM (T0NGe)
48 sigh,
HotAir and Ace have always had a high crossover/serendipity rate.....
this is the part of the rightwing playground that is behind the tree where the duty teacher doesn't care so much if we play rough.....
Drew,
I am gonna send AG money in '14 if Senor Graham is still there
had a nice idea for a guerilla psyop against Bury.....
what if we all sent priority mail flat-rate boxes of worn out golf balls from driving ranges to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave?
The balls would cost less than 10 bucks a bucket and you can fit 40 or so in a 7.50 flat rate mailer.
Posted by: sven10077 at July 22, 2010 02:38 PM (kq1lG)
Posted by: memomachine
I bet he would be so mad that he would bite a whole bunch of pillows.
Posted by: MrCaniac at July 22, 2010 02:39 PM (Vol3D)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 22, 2010 02:39 PM (5jbD3)
You observation is spot on. The idea of QC in Political Science has me on the floor laughing. I was at a different school (a directional public university) where I was informed that PS majors/minors/anyone who declared an "interest" in the discipline in a survey should be treated differently than other students. I found out as time passed this included the removal of "hurdles" (or as I call them, assignments/expectations/grade scales) for these students so that they would stay/become majors/minors.
More Majors/Minors = more department funding. That's what mattered 1st, 2nd, and 3rd. Not quality of education or challenge in the classroom.
Posted by: Doc at July 22, 2010 02:40 PM (MYT77)
Posted by: Editor at July 22, 2010 06:37 PM (pUfK9)
Any actual natural born American would do less damage than the Indonesian Imbecile. Even Americans who wanted to do damage, like Shrillary, would be less damaging, since they have subconscious ties to our culture that they cannot break. Shrillary would have let the health scare die midway throught he town halls, just like she did last time.
The Indonesian shares nothing with American culture and had no problems breaking every tradition and taboo we have in his desire to destroy all of our institutions. That's why the Founders put that clause in and that's some of us have been railing about how important it is.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at July 22, 2010 02:42 PM (Qp4DT)
Posted by: Doc at July 22, 2010 02:42 PM (MYT77)
Posted by: cali grump at July 22, 2010 02:42 PM (1tJr/)
The dean is speaking to the head of the physics department, complaining about all of the expensive equipment they have to buy. "Why can't you be more like the math department," he says, "they only need pencils, paper and a wastebasket?" Then he adds, "Or you could be like political science, they don't need the wastebasket."
Posted by: AmishDude at July 22, 2010 02:43 PM (T0NGe)
Posted by: Coach Steve Spurrier at July 22, 2010 02:43 PM (w9bVp)
This is going on the office wall. My colleagues will love it, I'm sure.
Posted by: Doc at July 22, 2010 02:46 PM (MYT77)
Yea coach, Allvine Greene played for the Tuscaloosa Testicles as a wide receiver and he was awesome.
Posted by: Fish at July 22, 2010 02:47 PM (v1gw3)
I'm torn between laughing at him and helping him get a job at Goodwill. He reminds me of a kid I went to school with that was very nice, but, uh, you know.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at July 22, 2010 02:48 PM (RgXpA)
Posted by: Aristotle at July 22, 2010 02:49 PM (5Mkzq)
I can't help but feel sorry for the guy.
Posted by: Corona at July 22, 2010 06:48 PM (woZIc)
I feel sorry for anyone named Corona, especially with all that salt and lime squeezing routine.
Posted by: Fish at July 22, 2010 02:50 PM (v1gw3)
Posted by: Alvin Greene at July 22, 2010 02:50 PM (aOKEC)
All of our jokes involved "a mathematician, a physicist, and an engineer ...". We never sank down to poli sci.
What I find amazing, though, is that almost all poli sci majors I have ever met (and they have been numerous) have had very little idea about the actual structure of our government or how it is unique in the world and different from just about all others. I'm really not sure what they teach in political science, but it doesn't seem to be political science.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at July 22, 2010 02:50 PM (Qp4DT)
Posted by: t-bird at July 22, 2010 02:51 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Coach Steve Spurrier at July 22, 2010 02:51 PM (w9bVp)
Posted by: Putney Swope at July 22, 2010 02:53 PM (1g4UE)
Posted by: Bozo the Gibbs at July 22, 2010 02:53 PM (w9bVp)
He'd never get to the floor. If Alvin Greene ever got elected to anything, he would have the best, most attentive aides you'd ever seen. He'd never speak, he'd be on the floor long enough to vote and leave. He'd never do interviews or anything. They have ways of dealing with nearly comatose Senators, I'm sure they'd use the same on Greene.
Posted by: AmishDude at July 22, 2010 02:54 PM (T0NGe)
Posted by: Laura Castellano at July 22, 2010 02:54 PM (fuw6p)
Couple of changes in Greene's review makes a nice mirror to the White House HR Director's first year employee review of Bambi.
Posted by: MrCaniac at July 22, 2010 02:55 PM (Vol3D)
Posted by: Bozo the Gibbs at July 22, 2010 02:55 PM (w9bVp)
Posted by: Legendary Film Star Rick Moranis at July 22, 2010 02:55 PM (dUOK+)
A B Stoddard of the Hill just said "Obama never said he would heal the racial divide." Oh really.
Well, the walk-back has begun, and it smells like liberal desperation.
Posted by: Fish at July 22, 2010 02:56 PM (v1gw3)
Posted by: Bill D. Cat at July 22, 2010 02:57 PM (NuAIL)
Posted by: Rep. Hank Johnson at July 22, 2010 02:57 PM (pUfK9)
As usual, Kraut is 15 months behind. He'll get the story right by October next year. That'll be worth listening to. Right now ... not so much.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at July 22, 2010 02:57 PM (Qp4DT)
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at July 22, 2010 02:58 PM (RgXpA)
They have ways of dealing with nearly comatose Senators, I'm sure they'd use the same on Greene.
Posted by: AmishDude at July 22, 2010 06:54 PM (T0NGe)
I believe Alvin could replace either the Lion of the Senate Ted Kennedy, or the Buzzard of the Senate Robert Byrd.
Posted by: Fish at July 22, 2010 02:58 PM (v1gw3)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 22, 2010 02:58 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Splunge at July 22, 2010 02:59 PM (9uwvY)
5 If I lived there, I'd vote for him. Just to see the Dems try to deal with the mess they brought on themselves.
Pretty much my attitude toward Kesha Rogers in TX-22, and the other LaRouche candidates. (That and the Glass-Steagall thing.)
One of these, one Rachel Brown, is running against Bawney in Massachusetts. If Bawney gets unseated by a LaRouchie . . .
Posted by: Zimriel at July 22, 2010 02:59 PM (oCV1U)
Well, the walk-back has begun, and it smells like liberal desperation.
Posted by: Fish at July 22, 2010 06:56 PM (v1gw3)
AB gingerly skips over the fact that The Precedent is the one who has been trying to foment racial animus in this nation since he got in - with his inaugurational "when white accepts what's right" (YAY!).
AB is a retard. Kraut was right there with her, today.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at July 22, 2010 02:59 PM (Qp4DT)
Posted by: redc1c4 at July 22, 2010 02:59 PM (d1FhN)
Usually the punchline is "we reduce it to a previously-solved problem".
What I find amazing, though, is that almost all poli sci majors I have ever met (and they have been numerous) have had very little idea about the actual structure of our government or how it is unique in the world and different from just about all others. I'm really not sure what they teach in political science, but it doesn't seem to be political science.
Activism, mostly. At the undergraduate level, it's hard to tell one social science from another. And they certainly don't teach the scientific method.
The regular scientific method is basically: You observe a natural phenomenon, develop a hypothesis as to why it occurs and test it against data. If the test fails, you reject the hypothesis and try again.
The social scientific method is: You observe a social phenomenon, develop a hypothesis as to why it occurs and test it against data. If the test fails, you reject the data and try to find data that will fit better.
Posted by: AmishDude at July 22, 2010 02:59 PM (T0NGe)
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at July 22, 2010 03:00 PM (LUaw0)
Posted by: s☺mej☼e at July 22, 2010 03:00 PM (f3Ags)
I know the movie IDIOCRACY has been mentioned here recently by a few others but...
this Alvin Greene guy kinda epitomizes the plot, eh?
Posted by: a commenter who changes his name a lot at July 22, 2010 03:02 PM (Sl76L)
Imagine Greene wins, and Obama has to invite him to the WH.
Posted by: Retread at July 22, 2010 03:02 PM (x3dVY)
Can you imagine how bad it would've been had he joined the military?
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at July 22, 2010 03:03 PM (RgXpA)
The social scientific method is: You observe a social phenomenon, develop a hypothesis as to why it occurs and test it against data. If the test fails, you reject the data and try to find data that will fit better.
Yeah, I remember a point from Taubes. a real science journalist who's covered both particle physics and diet "science." When a particle physicist presents a paper, the audience questions everything and rips it to shreds. So there's a lot of retained truth in particle physics, because everything else has been ruthlessly filtered out. In diet "science", when you present a paper, the audience says "good job!" Sort of like giving A's to everyone, and with similar garbage results. And social "science" is even worse.
Posted by: Splunge at July 22, 2010 03:03 PM (9uwvY)
Posted by: Countrysquire at July 22, 2010 03:04 PM (VegQp)
I'm sure he'll be offered plenty of "unique new positions" in some agency or other.
Posted by: AmishDude at July 22, 2010 03:05 PM (T0NGe)
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at July 22, 2010 07:00 PM (LUaw0)
Sounds very much like a concentration in Labor, which I first heard about because some other dipshit was noted as having a master's in it. A Master's in Labor!?! WTF? That is an offense to the intellect.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at July 22, 2010 03:05 PM (Qp4DT)
I was an Econ major. We actually had our own scientific method: "There's no way that would work. You'd completely fuck up [insert thing to be fucked up]."
Until Ben Bernanke, we never had an actual lab to test it, though.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at July 22, 2010 03:05 PM (RgXpA)
Posted by: memomachine
He would be so mad that he would take a lowly job putting candy into boxes at the local chocolate fudge factory.
Posted by: dagny at July 22, 2010 03:06 PM (51XNa)
And the last thing this country needs is an idiot like Greene replacing a true conservative like DeMint in the senate.
Sheesh.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 22, 2010 03:06 PM (UOM48)
Yeah, I've noticed that too.
Posted by: AmishDude at July 22, 2010 03:07 PM (T0NGe)
47 Funny you should say that Amish. I had a pretty rousing argument with a mechanical engineer (with a math minor no less) who insisted America was a democracy because she had read about how the founding fathers studied ancient democracies "and stuff", how we shouldn't be supporting Israel the way we are against the flotilla because "well I think it's wrong that they are starving people over there and we're helping them do that", and (the real kicker) "Bush totally made the federal government take over, like some communist country, and Obama is just creating all these czars and stuff and going around our inept Congress and Supreme Court to try and fix what the Republicans did and make our country free again".
Of course, being a totally stupid humanities major I had to agree with my intellectual superior of course, right?
XOXO - who loves ya baby? 
Posted by: unknown jane at July 22, 2010 03:10 PM (5/yRG)
All that when he wasn't even supposed to be on campus and had snuck by campus security.
Posted by: Vic at July 22, 2010 03:11 PM (/jbAw)
O/T
Bill and Hillary sponsored a dinner at the White House and invited numerous guests to include F. Henry Throckmorton, republican attorney.
After dinner, Bill and Vernon Jordan formed the receiving line and bid the guests farewell. When Throckmorton was before Bill, he leaned forward and said, "Mr Throckmorton, your wife is the best piece of ass in Washington."
Attorney Throckmorton was stunned and quickly departed with his wife. After they left, Bill Clinton leaned over to Vernon Jordan and said, "I told Throckmorton a lie. His wife isn't the best piece of ass in Washington but I didn't want to hurt his feelings."
Posted by: Fish at July 22, 2010 03:11 PM (v1gw3)
True. Some of this is just kind of fun because we believe he has absolutely no chance against DeMint.
Posted by: AmishDude at July 22, 2010 03:11 PM (T0NGe)
Hell. I might send him money, now.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at July 22, 2010 03:13 PM (RgXpA)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 22, 2010 03:14 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: nickless at July 22, 2010 03:14 PM (MMC8r)
As for Alvin -- you know, you do kinda have to like the guy; he at least is honest. Still, I really do not want him winning in some kind of bizarro "Vote for Pedro" scenario. DeMint is important.
The could send Alvin out here to run against the two canidates as an independent (hey, it's been done before) -- he'd be an improvement over either one and certainly couldn't hurt us any. (and he's at least honest -- that would be a first here)
Posted by: unknown jane at July 22, 2010 03:15 PM (5/yRG)
Of course, being a totally stupid humanities major I had to agree with my intellectual superior of course, right?
XOXO - who loves ya baby?
Hey, I'm not saying humanities majors are stupid, I'm just saying, if you are, it doesn't make any difference. 
Seriously, I said before, we have to deal with teh crazy. And the thing is, she didn't have a mathematical proof for what she's saying. She didn't have an academic credential which made her observations anything more than just her own uninformed opinions.
Political science makes stupid liberal opinions into "science".
Posted by: AmishDude at July 22, 2010 03:16 PM (T0NGe)
Meanwhile all the polls were urging voters to vote in the Dem primary at the runoff level because the republicans offered no candidates in a lot of the races and if you didn't vote in the Dem primary you didn't get to vote for that office at all.
What is funny is that yes he won the primary by a wide margin but did not win the general election by much. His win was less than McCain's in taking the State. That meant that Republicans split their vote and did not vote for him.
Posted by: Vic at July 22, 2010 06:34 PM (/jbAw)
What that tells me is that the South Carolina conservatives need to put a "laser-like" focus on defeating Graham in the primaries, ignoring any other ballot races. And 2014, a mid-term, won't have Barack Obama on the ballot (I hope and pray he'll be an ex-President by then and enjoying six days a week of golf and pickup hoops) to skew the vote.
Posted by: stuiec at July 22, 2010 03:16 PM (7AOgy)
To make everything fair, Alvin Greene needs an introduction to Shirley Sherrod so he can learn a thing or two about socialism/Marxism instead of his outdated beliefs on American exceptionalism and the underdog can win theory.
Posted by: Fish at July 22, 2010 03:17 PM (v1gw3)
Well, the girl was a college student, and therefore an adult.
Granted, ten years from now when my daughters are college students, if someone does this to them (and, of course, they come to me because they feel uncomfortable handling it themselves, of which the odds are relatively slim), I will of course kick shit out of the perv bastard. (Odds are, however, that my daughter will point to a guy rolled up in a fetal position in the corner in his own feces. At which point I'll probably have enough pity to only punch the fucker once.)
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at July 22, 2010 03:18 PM (RgXpA)
He would be so mad that he would take a lowly job putting candy into boxes at the local chocolate fudge factory.
Posted by: dagny at July 22, 2010 07:06 PM (51XNa)
And I bet within two weeks, he'd be the president of the fudge-packers' local. Celebrating his victory with a weenie roast, 'cause I hear he loves him some hot weenie.
Posted by: stuiec at July 22, 2010 03:19 PM (7AOgy)
He has been charged with a felony porn violation and unless he cops a plea to something lesser he will do time.
If he had simply left it at showing her the porn they probably would not have charged him but he had to do the other stuff.
Posted by: Vic at July 22, 2010 03:20 PM (/jbAw)
If he had simply left it at showing her the porn they probably would not have charged him but he had to do the other stuff.
Posted by: Vic at July 22, 2010 07:20 PM (/jbAw)
He needs a defense attorney that will point out that he is about 8 years old upstairs.
Seriously. Mr. Green is not a person who should be put through the "normal" justice system. He is an outlier, and a civilized approach is going to have to acknowledge that act accordingly.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at July 22, 2010 03:22 PM (RgXpA)
118 Oh no...Miss I Majored in a Logical Area of Study did indeed throw down the edumackation gauntlet first. She didn't know I had more than a high school education when we started arguing; then it was "well my major deals with numbers more so I know more about the economy than you do" (by the way, she says the recession is Bush's fault and it's getting better), and then it was "well, your opinions you just get from Google, while I can think things through logically" (and then the rest of her arguements, which I enumerated above came out).
She ended by calling me names and telling me I needed to shut up because talking anymore (aka. responding to her) was rude -- I guess that's what smart people do when they win a debate.
Face it -- a number cruncher got outgunned by a lowly bookworm there sugar booger...bwhahahhaha!
Posted by: unknown jane at July 22, 2010 03:22 PM (5/yRG)
Herr, the girl was 18 which is right at the border where the charge could have been very very serious. Younger than 18 it becomes distributing porn to a minor. Not only a felony but some serious hard time in SC.
Posted by: Vic at July 22, 2010 03:23 PM (/jbAw)
Posted by: Tom Ballsack at July 22, 2010 03:23 PM (w9bVp)
Bingo.
Seriously, if he switched from private citizen to Senator he would bring up the average IQ of both groups.
So you think he is any dumber than Rangel? Kerry? Boxer? Dodd?
Posted by: nine coconuts at July 22, 2010 03:24 PM (DHNp4)
I don't think anyone has ever said he is actually retarded for the purposes of the law. In any case, the standard is capability to know right from wrong. Since he snuck past security and functions ok in the real world I think it is clear that he knows right from wrong.
Posted by: Vic at July 22, 2010 03:26 PM (/jbAw)
124 I think you might be right -- he really isn't all there, even the way he committed his crime was rather juvenile in a "Lenny" sort of way. He needs to be prosecuted, but I think that needs to be taken into consideration.
And no, really doesn't need to be in the Senate (but then again, the Capitol needs a major purging, and at least he's honest).
Posted by: unknown jane at July 22, 2010 03:27 PM (5/yRG)
Now you pay for prison parties: Tory [prisons] minister says taxpayer must fund balls and comedy workshops for criminals
But he quoted Churchill! That makes it better, right? /
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at July 22, 2010 03:27 PM (LUaw0)
This falls under the category of sex crime. Recidivism for this type of crime is high, and generally, these types of offenders get worse as they get older.
Posted by: Vic at July 22, 2010 03:28 PM (/jbAw)
You say Alvin, I say Greene!
Alvin Greene! Alvin Greene!
You say Alvin, I say Greene!
Alvin Greene for Senator!
Posted by: dad at July 22, 2010 03:29 PM (HtIec)
Let me say this: This arbitrary age of 18 is bullshit, in many ways. (We DO have to set an arbitrary age, of course, because there is no good method of announcing majority except with arbitrary limits).
18 is plenty old to know what's up, IF the kid is worldly; i.e., not raised by helicopter parents who just worry so much about their precious Sally-Wally.
Is he a perv? Probably. Is he a retard and do we have a responsibility to acknowledge that? Yeah. He just ain't so fucking bright.
Teach your girls about such critters and it's not a problem. My oldest is ten. Wave your wang in her face and she'll bring it home as a fucking trophy. So many parents just don't want to deal with the reality of the world and its inhabitants.
Sounds funny from a homeschooler, doesn't it? Except that said ten year old is hunting the internet for semen for our goats. It's reality.....
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at July 22, 2010 03:30 PM (RgXpA)
Well, the guy evidently despises commies and terrorists, which puts him head and shoulders above all the "smart" Democrats in, oh, everywhere.
Posted by: Inspector Asshole at July 22, 2010 03:30 PM (KemLo)
Not disagreeing with you Herr, just referring to the law here.
Posted by: Vic at July 22, 2010 03:31 PM (/jbAw)
Posted by: Tom Ballsack at July 22, 2010 03:32 PM (w9bVp)
True, but she was on your turf. Solve some differential equations and see where you get!
You were right and good for you because one of the problems is the idea of some degrees becoming signs of universal knowledge. Usually, it's the ivy league law degree.
The math degree means that you can do econometrics, it doesn't mean that you already understand it.
Posted by: AmishDude at July 22, 2010 03:32 PM (T0NGe)
132 Yes, this is a rather serious offense given the nature of it; however, Alvin here probably should not go in with the general criminal population -- he isn't all there, and they would eat him up alive.
And I kid about him holding office (although, could he really be worse than Blago? really?)
Posted by: unknown jane at July 22, 2010 03:33 PM (5/yRG)
Vic's out as defense attorney.
Yeah, I know. I'm an old squish in a lot of ways. This guy is just really fucking stupid. I've grown up with such folks who were real nice and did really stupid shit because they were, well, really stupid.
I kind of feel for the guy, and the urge to nail a piece of ass is not exactly new. He just screwed up how he went about it....
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at July 22, 2010 03:33 PM (RgXpA)
139 Hee hee...I just got my week made because I got Amish Dude to admit I was right for once!!
Y'all have fun -- I'm going to go buy a six pack to celebrate!
Posted by: unknown jane at July 22, 2010 03:35 PM (5/yRG)
Posted by: Vic at July 22, 2010 07:31 PM (/jbAw)
Oh, I know. Alvin's retarded mistake was that he showed porn to someone's "precious flower" instead of a kid who had been raised to drop hardons with a laugh.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at July 22, 2010 03:35 PM (RgXpA)
I'm just waiting for the remake of "Mr. Smith Goes to Washington" based upon the Alvin Greene story.
I bet we could get Oliver Stone interested.
Posted by: Anachronda at July 22, 2010 03:35 PM (3K4hn)
LOL, you think I am bad as defense you aught to see some of the statements the parents of the girl have made. They want him to rot in jail forever beginning now.
Posted by: Vic at July 22, 2010 03:35 PM (/jbAw)
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at July 22, 2010 07:33 PM (RgXpA)
I could teach him a few lessons.
Posted by: Al Gore at July 22, 2010 03:37 PM (pUfK9)
Posted by: Vic at July 22, 2010 03:37 PM (/jbAw)
Posted by: Shirley Sherrod at July 22, 2010 03:37 PM (w9bVp)
Well, I'm not married, so I'm not used to saying it.
And, for heaven's sake, it's AmishDude. One word. Like Cher. Or schadenfreude.
Posted by: AmishDude at July 22, 2010 03:38 PM (T0NGe)
There are a ton of people out there just like him...voting dem
Posted by: bob at July 22, 2010 03:38 PM (XSD4n)
I like the cut of your jib and I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.
Posted by: AmishDude at July 22, 2010 03:39 PM (T0NGe)
There are a ton of people out there just like him...voting dem
I love it when a plan comes together.
Posted by: John Dewey at July 22, 2010 03:39 PM (RgXpA)
Well the feeble-minded also need representation in the Senate.
My God, how many senators do they get? - Posted by: huerfano at July 22, 2010 06:27 PM (NmcJ6)
You owe me a new monitor -
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at July 22, 2010 03:44 PM (H6+4d)
Posted by: AmishDude at July 22, 2010 06:59 PM (T0NGe)
Sounds kinda like the AGW WarmMongers.
Posted by: bikermailman at July 22, 2010 03:45 PM (XNCeM)
Posted by: chemjeff at July 22, 2010 03:45 PM (Ps41e)
Not so fine to me. I'm far less comfortable snarking at Alvin Greene -- who may have made stupid mistakes in his life, and often sounds as though he's on the verge of announcing his intention to start a shrimping outfit, but does not appear to be a BAD guy -- than I am with some slimy douchenozzle like Will Folks out to cause purposeful harm to someone; let alone some 400+ members of Congress who are "unemployed" by virtue of never having held a real job in their lives; who have never served their country in uniform at all; and who will never have to worry about having to go back home to live with their parents because they've gotten RICH sucking the public trough dry.
This video leaves me very cold; watching it is like watching video of a dog being kicked. Alvin Greene strikes me as a man who could be redeemable; those in the political class trying to destroy him certainly aren't.
Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at July 22, 2010 03:48 PM (yijwV)
Posted by: Original Roy at July 22, 2010 03:49 PM (wTawr)
No it isn't. It's "The Future ex-Mrs. AmishDude"
Posted by: AmishDude at July 22, 2010 07:45 PM (T0NGe)
Yes, darling.
Mow the lawn.
Posted by: The Future Mrs. Amish Dude (<--that's correct) at July 22, 2010 03:50 PM (RgXpA)
Posted by: bikermailman at July 22, 2010 03:52 PM (XNCeM)
Let me say this: This arbitrary age of 18 is bullshit, in many ways. (We DO have to set an arbitrary age, of course, because there is no good method of announcing majority except with arbitrary limits).
18 is plenty old to know what's up, IF the kid is worldly; i.e., not raised by helicopter parents who just worry so much about their precious Sally-Wally.
Is he a perv? Probably. Is he a retard and do we have a responsibility to acknowledge that? Yeah. He just ain't so fucking bright.
Teach your girls about such critters and it's not a problem. My oldest is ten. Wave your wang in her face and she'll bring it home as a fucking trophy. So many parents just don't want to deal with the reality of the world and its inhabitants.
Sounds funny from a homeschooler, doesn't it? Except that said ten year old is hunting the internet for semen for our goats. It's reality.....
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at July 22, 2010 07:30 PM (RgXpA)
OT, but what is the most effect effect technique to teach a child (assuming they are responible kid)
1. TEMPLE – A very susceptibile vital spot. If struck with sufficient force, may cause unconsciousness or death.
2. NASION – This is the summit of the nose. If struck with sufficient force may cause death.
3. PHILTRUM – This is the area between the upper lip and the bottom of the nose. Attack to this area may also cause unconsciousness or death.
4. HOOK TO JAW – A powerful hook punch to the front side of jaw may snap an enemy’s neck. Fatal.
5. ADAM’S APPLE – A sharp blow here may cause enemy to asphyxiate.
Posted by: Ludicrous Speed at July 22, 2010 03:52 PM (PWj+8)
Damn. Did you that? That was my sympathy getting the fuck out of here.
Fuck your union. Seriously.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at July 22, 2010 03:54 PM (RgXpA)
Posted by: Lady in Black at July 22, 2010 03:54 PM (Zq7bR)
Posted by: Original Roy at July 22, 2010 07:49 PM (wTawr)
So much nicer than a Char-Treuse race.
Posted by: stuiec at July 22, 2010 03:55 PM (7AOgy)
Not really. Gotta be realistic.
Now, is that like, a black teddy, or what? Just keepin it real....
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at July 22, 2010 03:56 PM (RgXpA)
Oh yeah, one more coinkidink here: our own personal frakoff is named Alvin.
Posted by: bikermailman at July 22, 2010 03:59 PM (XNCeM)
Political science makes stupid liberal opinions into "science".
Posted by: AmishDude at July 22, 2010 07:16 PM (T0NGe)
No it doesn't;
it makes stupid liberal opinions into Stuff You Gotta Believe / Pay Lip Service To not get fired
Posted by: poli sci guy at July 22, 2010 03:59 PM (JrRME)
Eh. I was too harsh.
I play golf with a bunch of union guys every spring. One of them a steward, who basically bitches about the pieces of shit that he's responsible for. Sorry.
Fucking unions are a major, major liability on the economy. though, and especially in the government that the second-class-citizenry private sector is forced to pay for.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at July 22, 2010 04:02 PM (RgXpA)
oh wait, that would eliminate a third of congress and all our executive branch.
Posted by: bill at July 22, 2010 04:06 PM (XhUIv)
Posted by: bikermailman at July 22, 2010 04:07 PM (XNCeM)
"What percentage does he wind up with and if enough people decide to throw and pity/protest vote to him thinking, "he'll never win"...could he?
There's a movie idea in here somewhere..."
This is like a bad Disney movie.
Wait...who were we talking about?
Posted by: MATT DAMON! at July 22, 2010 04:10 PM (L51+P)
Posted by: Jaylord at July 22, 2010 04:10 PM (YWzGi)
Posted by: Jean at July 22, 2010 04:14 PM (727RS)
They have never published the race of the girl.
Posted by: Vic at July 22, 2010 04:17 PM (/jbAw)
What would Thomas Jefferson think of School Busing?
Posted by: Truck Monkey realizing that he no longer wanted to be a Poly Sci major at July 22, 2010 04:18 PM (yQWNf)
Better question; what would Thomas Jefferson think of public school systems paid for by tax payers?
Posted by: Vic at July 22, 2010 04:20 PM (/jbAw)
They found my donkey.
http://tinyurl.com/2cft8ks
It will be flying over Myrtle Beach next week.
Bit me, er, Biden is going to come do a fund raiser for me. Shirley too, she don't have no job so shes going to help out. You know sell some action figures.
Green jobs!
Posted by: Alvin, the candidate, not the chipmunk at July 22, 2010 04:27 PM (2+9Yx)
I could be wrong, but I think I saw an interview with the victim and her mother on TV a few weeks ago.
She was non-black.
Which rates a big so-what? from me. There doesn't seem to be a great sense of urgency in getting Alvin into the courthouse. That tells me two things: 1) the charges may be weak, and 2) he's a Democrat.
Posted by: MrScribbler at July 22, 2010 04:31 PM (Ulu3i)
Posted by: Vic at July 22, 2010 08:20 PM (/jbAw)
From the state level he would probably say, "Their choice. Don't like it, move to another state."
From the federal government he would say that they have no business mucking around in state business ... and then let out some really choice slurs.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at July 22, 2010 04:34 PM (Qp4DT)
Alvin Greene had a degree, but he enlisted in the Air Force as an enlisted man, rising to E-3, Airman First Class. I don't know how dumb you would have to be to be involuntarily separated from the USAF as an E-3, but it would be Pretty Frigging Dumb. Most guys who get kicked out at that rank have done something bad, like drugs or a stickup, but it sounds like this guy wasn't smart enough to tie his shoes to do something bad. Then he did it all over again in the Army, rising another rank to E-4.
However, that said, Alvin has far surpassed the minimum intellectual standard to be a Democratic Senator. And really, would it be so bad to have a Democrat who was too stupid to do any harm? Somebody you could give a red balloon, a bag of M&Ms, and a coloring book and he would just play in the corner by himself.
Posted by: Tantor at July 22, 2010 04:35 PM (Ek/Oc)
Posted by: Jim Cyburn, majority whip US House at July 22, 2010 04:37 PM (2+9Yx)
Posted by: gebrauchshund at July 22, 2010 04:42 PM (ADeN1)
Is Obama going to endorse him or even show up?
If not, how does this affect the Black vote not only in SC, but in the country?
Looks like a great opportunity for a few ads from an anonymous 503 axing the same question.
"Why is Obama not supporting the ONLY Black candidate for the US Senate?"
Hmm, Karl crank it up my man!
Posted by: Kemp at July 22, 2010 04:58 PM (2+9Yx)
Posted by: troyriser at July 22, 2010 05:04 PM (mU1zA)
OT but fodder for the ONT to come. I wish Newt would always run with principle rather than his reach out BS. Here is Newt at his best. (Links to IOW)
Posted by: Ohio Dan at July 22, 2010 05:09 PM (rurh0)
Posted by: tmitsss at July 22, 2010 05:22 PM (AUFMz)
I like him. Too bad he's running against Demint, otherwise I'd want everybody to vote for him. I like him because he's not one of the usual suspects in DC. A vote for him would be a great "fuck you" vote.
Demint could lose votes for being mean spirited, but he's smart enough not to be too harsh on this guy.
Posted by: rdbrewer at July 22, 2010 05:55 PM (Dd2Jo)
Posted by: azkag at July 22, 2010 07:15 PM (ROVMS)
" Fucking unions are a major, major liability on the economy. though, and especially in the government that the second-class-citizenry private sector is forced to pay for. "
Herr Morgenholz
As a former union Boilermaker I agree. The commies in the top echelon screwed everything up. Hell, my entire hall to a man voted for Ronbo both times. Public employees should NOT be unionized, period.
When is a Republican going to man up and put up a Federal Right To Work law ?
after card check is passed, i reckon.
Posted by: John Mosby at July 22, 2010 07:29 PM (l/I5G)
Posted by: Duhgee at July 22, 2010 07:34 PM (7Tc5G)
Posted by: mojo at July 22, 2010 08:10 PM (D6Uk6)
Posted by: nickless at July 22, 2010 07:14 PM
As the mother of an autistic son, I am watching these "interviews" with Greene with a mixture of horror and pity. Everything about him screams "undiagnosed," from his family's defensiveness about his mental capacity to his inability to follow basic directions in the Air Force. If the Democrats have an ounce of pity, they'd use the pending criminal case to disqualify him from running, or simply concede the race to DeMint and not push Greene forward at all.
Posted by: Deanna at July 22, 2010 11:38 PM (u0g2v)
Posted by: Dw Pepper at July 23, 2010 12:07 PM (7sLhO)
The motivation behind this could be many. One of them--my top pick--is a legitimate attempt to get the man as many votes in the black community as possible and/or mitigate the damage he has undergone. The part about mentioning the charges is the giveaway. The denial will be believed, because it will want to be believed.
If he was running against a lesser candidate than Demint, or if it was a House race, he might very well win--if he refused debates and limited public appearances.
We have a problem with the system. There may be a solution. Right now, it has no chance of seeing daylight.
Posted by: Horatius at July 23, 2010 01:22 PM (8JUTr)
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