June 30, 2010
— Ace Let me distinguish between what we might call emotional insanity -- from which he clearly suffers -- and a derangement of the intellect, which produces non-lucid thinking.
I'm drawing a distinction between those who are emotionally disturbed but keep the basic integrity of their intellectual-level reason, and those who lose the latter, too. Suppose I wish to prove Sarah Palin is a liar, and I seize upon her claim of once having owned a green Volkswagon Beetle. Suppose I believe there is no such thing possible as a green VW Beetle, and I think that because I haven't seen one (but then, I also don't really look at many Beetles).
But if my belief is true, she must be a liar.
Now first of all let us note the proposition is hard to establish -- absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, as they say. But let us say that if I hear enough anecdotal evidence from my readers -- say, 5,000 of them -- all affirming that they too have never, ever seen a green VW Beetle, then I would gain some confidence in my belief that there are no green VW Beetles. 5000 testimonies wouldn't truly prove the issue, but at least I would think that there's a good chance I was on the right track.
Now let's say that readers write to me about my belief, and I get a couple of emails like this:
You're spot-on, Ace! Now that I think about it, I've never seen a green VW Beetle, either. She must be the liar you say she is!
and:
I have long also believed there were no green VW Beetles. God keep you safe for your integrity and bravery in daring to bring up this issue!
Okay, well, that sort of helps my case, kinda, but it's only a couple of people. I made up 5000 people as the bare minimum of correspondents agreeing with my observation that would give me some confidence in it, and we're not anywhere near that, but we do have two. Two's a start, I guess.
But let's say I then get three other emails:
Ace, what the hell are you talking about? I see pale green Beetles on the highway every week.
and:
I gotta tell you, you're way off base with this "no green Beetles" idea that's stuck in your head. A guy down the street from me happens to own one. No argument it's green. You're just wrong.
and:
Dude? Idiot? Lunatic? I own a factory-original-paint hunter green Beetle. I can send you a picture if you like. Better yet, just look on VW's website where they advertise the color.
Now, if I had those three emails, should I just kind of throw up my hands and say "Well, some agree, some disagree, so I guess it's an open question; the controversy remains alive" ?
Of course not. Because each of those last three emails proved the case conclusively that my theory was provably, 100% wrong.
The "supportive" emails barely supported me, in that to really prove it I would need to ask every person on the face of the earth if he'd ever seen a green Beetle, and only if everyone said "No" would I be 99% sure I was right about there being no green Beetles. (Even then-- I could still be wrong!)
On the other hand, each of the undermining emails blew my theory completely out of the water and rubbished it. Each one of them proved my case utterly false. Because my theory, after all, was that green Beetles were impossible, and a single spotting of a green one proves they are possible.
My only escape hatch, at this point, if I want to keep my "theory" alive, is to call my readers liars. But if I assume they're on the level, then my theory is proved false, absolutely.
Sorry for the preamble, but I just want to make the point that Andrew Sullivan has now completely had his senses depart from him (and I'm sure they called out "Good riddance!" as they left).
Here's his last post on "Why Trig Matters." Two readers tell him, Hey, sure, I agree with you, it's impossible to experience a pregnancy the way Sarah Palin said she did.
But then three more say "Um, that was my exact experience with pregnancy, too, so I don't know why you're saying it's 'impossible' or even especially difficult to believe."
And he just sort of throws his hands up and calls this a "he-said, she-said" dispute in which there is no clear winning side.
The post, thanks to Slublog:
A reader writes:
Just to add to the chorus of mothers not believing the birth story: when I was pregnant, I remember my obstetrician telling me she might have to duck out of my scheduled appointment at any time because one of her patients who was pregnant with her third child was in labor, and that third babies “just sort of fall out.” Labor with each child is progressively shorter, statistically. Especially after the water breaks. I can only imagine how fast the labor is for fifth babies and that Palin must have been warned of this. In a high risk pregnancy, there’s simply no way a logical person would get on an airplane to fly cross-country under those circumstances.Another writes:
When my amniotic fluid starting leaking prematurely in my first pregnancy, there was no ambiguity from my doctor - I was to get the hospital immediately if not sooner.Another:
Let go of the Trig Palin issue; it makes you look like a loon. I have two children. When I was pregnant with my first, I gained almost no weight until the end of the 7th month. I went to a conference in Arizona at the end of my 6th month and people didn't know I was pregnant until I told them.My doctor was unconcerned by my lack of weight gain, and attributed it to the fact that I was running 5 miles a day up. He told me to continue running. I was eating plenty of calories and the baby grew normally. Palin is a runner and that can account for her low weight gain. I gained a little more weight with the second one, but I quit running sooner -- at the end of the 6th month, rather than at the end of the 7th.
I had a 14-15 year old friend in high school who hid a pregnancy by gaining only 14 pounds and wearing big sweatshirts. Her mother was an RN and didn't know my friend was pregnant until she went into labor. (Boy, was her mom embarrassed!) The baby weighed almost 8 pounds and was full term. My friend managed this entirely through exercise.
I had very little pain with either delivery, and labored through both without medication or epidural. My first labor took 28 hours. My second labor took 26 hours. At the beginning of both labors, I could feel contractions, which included mild discomfort. I suppose you could describe them as "labor pains," even if they weren't very painful. At no point in either of my labors did I feel the need to scream or shout or cross my legs. In fact, I sat quietly and played cards and read until I ws more than 12 hours in labor the first time and more than 20 hours into labor the second time. Again, I think I had a good handle on my pain and enduring it without a lot of fuss because I was a distance runner. If you can run, you labor without too much fuss. I think flying back to Alaska was reckless, but it wasn't impossible.
This issue is a non-issue. Her lack of weight gain isn't that abnormal. Her lack of pain isn't that abnormal. Her long labor isn't that abnormal. They're all within the scope of my personal experience with pregnancy.But this was her fifth child and in previous pregnancies, she was huge. She is not a large woman, and her previous pregnancies showed. She had also had two previous miscarriages, which would, one imagines, make one a little sensitive to winging it with pregnancies and labor. Another:
I've enjoyed your Palin coverage from the beginning. However, I feel I have to come forward and tell you that, if she's telling the truth, her birth experience is not that unusual. I'm the mother of four grown children. In two of those pregnancies the amniotic fluid began leaking well in advance of the start of active labor. Before my first child was born, I leaked for over a month - the docs felt it was best to let the pregnancy continue, and put me on bed rest. In the second case, the amniotic fluid leaked for a day and a half with no labor, until the doctor decided to induce labor. So it's perfectly possible to leak amniotic fluid for quite a while without going into labor, and judging by what my doctors told me, it's not particularly unusual.
I enjoy how his equally-deranged readers will call her "reckless," wish to concede a point to Sullivan, even as they inform him he's insane.
Um, what manner was she to use to get back home? Is it suggested she ought to have rented a car and fucking drove from Texas to Alaska? For, what? Four days on the road and four nights in strange hotels along the way?
That, I guess, would have been less reckless? Less reckless than a seven hour flight?
What the fuck is this, 1908? Is air travel still a strange adventure to many of us? Shall we begin calling them "aeroplanes" once more? Do we fear we might accidentally fly into a stream of luminiferous aether? What?
At any rate: Here are three readers chiming in that not only do green Beetles exist, but they happen to be owners of such a vehicle, but for Andrew Sullivan, The Mystery of the Misplaced Placenta continues to baffle.
These letters do not "balance" each other out, leaving the question open.
Three prove the case conclusively. End of story.
Fin.
But he is deranged, and no longer merely on an emotional level, but instead no longer even able to properly think.
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Posted by: President Barack Hussien Obama at June 30, 2010 12:37 PM (ngD76)
Posted by: The Hardly Boys at June 30, 2010 12:39 PM (ZxF0y)
Posted by: Al Gore at June 30, 2010 12:40 PM (IhQuA)
AIDS dementia is sad.
But I must admit starting a betting pool for when Andrew Sullivan finally expires from it is appealing.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 30, 2010 12:41 PM (ujg0T)
Why Trig Matters?
Does Semenhead even answer his own question and tell his deranged readers why Trig matters?
Posted by: i like chubby asian chicks at June 30, 2010 12:41 PM (uFokq)
Posted by: NR Pax at June 30, 2010 12:41 PM (hGatd)
Posted by: oblig. at June 30, 2010 12:42 PM (x7Ao8)
Because the woman in question is more competent, intelligent, and charismatic than the latest target of Sullivan's man-love.
(Hmmm... is Sullivan's attraction to Obama based on sexuality or fuhrerprinzip? Discuss.)
Posted by: Rob Crawford at June 30, 2010 12:44 PM (ZJ/un)
Posted by: NR Pax at June 30, 2010 04:41 PM (hGatd)
I'd prefer to think of it as a Love Canal IYKWIMAITYD.
Posted by: conscious, but incoherent at June 30, 2010 12:45 PM (YVZlY)
Posted by: Al Gore at June 30, 2010 12:45 PM (IhQuA)
Posted by: RushBabe at June 30, 2010 12:45 PM (W8m8i)
Poor concentration
Forgetfulness
Loss of short- or long-term memory
Social withdrawal
Slowed thinking
Short attention span
Irritability
Apathy
Ego centric attitude-lack of caring or concern for oneself or others
Impaired judgment
Personality change.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 30, 2010 12:45 PM (SeTb6)
Posted by: Bruce The Robert at June 30, 2010 12:46 PM (sh0JB)
Posted by: Crusty at June 30, 2010 12:46 PM (GvSpB)
So Sarah can turn gay men straight? That's up there with a Chuck Norris fact!
Posted by: NR Pax at June 30, 2010 12:46 PM (hGatd)
r-babe, Sullivan must've had another dream of Sarah Palin's garden and decided to dredge up the Trig conspiracy, once again.
Posted by: i like chubby asian chicks at June 30, 2010 12:47 PM (uFokq)
3 I've got SUCH a raging clue right now!
Posted by: The Hardly Boys at June 30, 2010 04:39 PM (ZxF0y)
Is it throbbing?
Posted by: Nancy Drew at June 30, 2010 12:47 PM (Oxen1)
What an arrogant ass
Posted by: kawfytawk at June 30, 2010 12:47 PM (lFt0D)
Posted by: Algore at June 30, 2010 04:46 PM (W8m8i)
Is Chakra Kahn your favorite female singer?
Posted by: conscious, but incoherent at June 30, 2010 12:49 PM (YVZlY)
Posted by: joeindc44 at June 30, 2010 12:49 PM (QxSug)
Sully is insane and Barbie is a tea partier. Two earth shattering revelations in one day!
I hope she's grown strong enough in her years to endure the Palin treatment.
Instapundit
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at June 30, 2010 12:50 PM (RkRxq)
Posted by: Splunge at June 30, 2010 12:50 PM (9uwvY)
Everyone has a friend of a friend's cousin's brother's sister-in-law who knows some fat chick who didn't know she was pregnant and suddenly pooped out a baby while sitting on the toilet.
Right?
Posted by: i like chubby asian chicks at June 30, 2010 12:50 PM (uFokq)
Posted by: Leland at June 30, 2010 12:51 PM (Q5asM)
Posted by: Atomic Roach at June 30, 2010 12:51 PM (Oxen1)
Posted by: Samuel Adams at June 30, 2010 12:52 PM (nxUYP)
Posted by: Charles Johnson at June 30, 2010 12:53 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: billhedrick at June 30, 2010 12:53 PM (gTZyc)
This microphone is on, yes>
~~~ tappah tappah ~
becasue Dane Cook was on stage night and I am thinking maybe this microphone killed itself ...
you can hear me? Yes?
is good.
Hello my peeps!
I am Hadji the Muslim Comic - the comic who always faces Mecca, even when I am playing on the stage that spins around and around. I am like David Blaine, only not an infidel
What is the difference between Andrew Sullivan's skull and a uterus?
A uterus can develop somthing new.
What is white and has whiskers and has no understanding of human female anatomy?
An albino manatee.
What is white and has whiskers, has no understanding of human female anatomy and blogs for 'The Atlantic'?
H'ah ... I tricked you ... it is an albino manatee with a wi-fi connection.
.
Posted by: Hadji the Muslim Comic at June 30, 2010 12:53 PM (ruzrP)
Is it wrong of me to ask why a gay man is so obsessed with a woman's birth canal?
Because he's planning a FABULOUS ob-gyn themed float for next year's Pride Parade...SILLY
ab-fab all day long, gurrrllll
uh-hunh. YEAH
Posted by: kallisto at June 30, 2010 12:53 PM (+FkcS)
What the fuck is this, 1908? Is air travel still a strange adventure to many of us?
Read up on a little historical oddity called the "Cargo Cults". They believed that Airplanes were brought gifts from the Gods... and that belief continued LONG after they understood that airplanes were piloted by men.
In fact... in the historic oddity department, one of the longest lived Cargo Cults is the "John FRUM" cult... thought to be named after a WWII pilot.
Hmmmm... Frum.... and irrational antiquated beliefs... how... appropriate?
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 30, 2010 12:54 PM (77Zbc)
>>> I have conclusively proven that heavier-than-air craft will not fly. Therefore you are all banned.
Finally someone on this blog makes sense. Can you send me your news letter?
Posted by: Fox Butterfield at June 30, 2010 12:55 PM (YObWz)
Posted by: Charles Johnson at June 30, 2010 04:53 PM (AZGON)
So you're saying your head is full of helium?
I bid myself adieu.
Posted by: Samuel Adams at June 30, 2010 12:55 PM (nxUYP)
Off topic - Pamela Gorman, the hot chick with the Tommy gun, is running against Ben Quayle, Dan's son, for the GOP nomination.
Ben started running ads on Ace and other conservative sites today. A hot chick who likes to pack heat or a kid whose dad can't spell. I think I will go with the hot chick.
Posted by: bc3b at June 30, 2010 12:55 PM (+QXu3)
In the end, I believe that Sullivan's problem is jealousy. He is angry at Sarah for having Todd Palin's children. A role he sees himself best qualified to fill.
So you're right. He's the little undigested insect legs in the batshit crazy.
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at June 30, 2010 12:55 PM (RkRxq)
Posted by: Michael Mann at June 30, 2010 12:56 PM (T0NGe)
The trigonometric functions are very important in technical subjects like science, engineering, architecture, and even medicine. You will come across trig functions all the time and you are encouraged to learn them well!
Surveying is one of the many applications. Road
makers, bridge builders and those whose job it is to get buildings in
the right place all use trigonometry in their daily work.
I am sure this is what Candi Andi was talking about but I didn't click the link.
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at June 30, 2010 12:56 PM (T0bhq)
Posted by: bc3b at June 30, 2010 12:56 PM (+QXu3)
Posted by: Dillinger at June 30, 2010 12:56 PM (BedzM)
Posted by: The MFM at June 30, 2010 12:56 PM (OKUdf)
Posted by: David Frum at June 30, 2010 12:57 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: Social Scientists at June 30, 2010 12:57 PM (T0NGe)
I mean, Sullivan is a crazed moron who, in Hunter Thompson's (paraphrased) words, should be stuffed in a bottle and set adrift in the goddamn Japanese current....
Really, how dare he?
P.S. Who is Andrew Sullivan? Friend of Weigel, maybe? One of the approximately 110,429,356 crazed bloggers on the Interwebz? Is a Twitter war ahead? Will you un-friend him on Facebook?
Gulf of Mexico, Kagan, Eric Holder vs. all white people, genuine disasters everywhere, hellooooooooo?
Posted by: Wannabe Crazed Sex Poodle at June 30, 2010 12:57 PM (Ulu3i)
Have a lot of fun.
Posted by: Larry Sheldon at June 30, 2010 12:57 PM (OmeRL)
Don't you get it? Childbirth is the equivalent of having a very large fist inserted into the vagina. Now, insert rectum instead of vagina and you will then know where I am coming from.
Posted by: Andrew Sullivan at June 30, 2010 12:58 PM (nxUYP)
I don't understand...
Posted by: Phil at June 30, 2010 12:59 PM (b42W0)
Posted by: Pamela Geller at June 30, 2010 12:59 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: Kevin in ABQ at June 30, 2010 12:59 PM (U4m5q)
Because he's planning a FABULOUS ob-gyn themed
float for next year's Pride Parade...SILLY
AARGH! My brain! My brain! You've warped it! It will never be the same again! [moans of anguish]
Posted by: Mary in LA at June 30, 2010 01:00 PM (NGf/6)
Posted by: Elena Kagan at June 30, 2010 01:01 PM (T0NGe)
Posted by: Dan at June 30, 2010 01:01 PM (1jzSs)
Posted by: GuyfromNH at June 30, 2010 01:02 PM (kbOju)
Posted by: Sigmund Fraud at June 30, 2010 01:02 PM (77Zbc)
Sullivan is right. You can't release your second chakra like that without a huge mess.
Posted by: Al Gore at June 30, 2010 01:03 PM (T0NGe)
Andi Sullivan and the Cooter of Doom
Andi Sullivan and The Last Pelvic Examination
Andi Sullivan and The Kingdom of the Sequined Va-jay-jay
Posted by: John P. Squibob at June 30, 2010 01:03 PM (/U/Mr)
Posted by: The MFM at June 30, 2010 01:04 PM (OKUdf)
It doesn't matter, Ace. People will believe what they want to believe. That goes for Sullivan and for his audience.
Change green punchbuggies to WMDs in Iraq. You could point out that two UN inspectors didn't see anything, but three soldiers did. And check Saddam Hussein's website: He's advertising a payout to the family members of suicide bombers. You could say that he's not just flaunting that he's funding transnational terrorism, he's flaunting it. And I could reply, "No. I don't believe that. I have a right to my opinion, and I believe there's no justification for invading Iraq."
I like your method of discource better, Ace -- but Sullivan's is winning the day.
Posted by: FireHorse at June 30, 2010 01:04 PM (cQyWA)
Posted by: Pamela Geller at June 30, 2010 04:59 PM (AZGON)
If you're the real Pamela Geller, congratulations on a job well done! I just read that Mosab Yousef was granted asylum today.
Even if you're a sock, let's hear about those obsessions! :-)
Posted by: Mary in LA at June 30, 2010 01:04 PM (NGf/6)
Posted by: Sigmund Fraud at June 30, 2010 05:02 PM (77Zbc)
Dude, what about Obama's fatherhood PSAs? Soooooo creepy.
Posted by: AmishDude at June 30, 2010 01:04 PM (T0NGe)
I'm not following...
Posted by: Phil at June 30, 2010 01:04 PM (b42W0)
Andrew has birthed several generations of gerbils, out of his ass, so, and gerbils are genetically closer to us than elephants, if you get my meaning, yeah, and what is it with elephants and peanuts, oh, Andrew, he knows what he is talking about.
Posted by: Chris Tingles at June 30, 2010 01:06 PM (Oxen1)
Posted by: bc3b at June 30, 2010 04:55 PM (+QXu3)
If going with the hot chick is wrong, I assume you don't want to be right.
Posted by: conscious, but incoherent at June 30, 2010 01:07 PM (YVZlY)
Posted by: FUBAR at June 30, 2010 05:05 PM (J5Srq)
Umm, welcome to AoS HQ! Here, pull up a nice squashy hobo to sit on, and have a swig of my Valu-Rite.
Posted by: Mary in LA at June 30, 2010 01:07 PM (NGf/6)
Posted by: dagny at June 30, 2010 01:08 PM (3DH2H)
Posted by: Sponge at June 30, 2010 01:08 PM (UK9cE)
Posted by: Butterfly McSullivan at June 30, 2010 01:08 PM (j5CHE)
Is the envelope marked Business Reply Mail? As in, The Atlantic gets charged by weight?
I'm thinking cinderblock.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 30, 2010 01:09 PM (P9+0W)
Go ahead. Release your second chakra.
Posted by: A. Gore at June 30, 2010 01:09 PM (wOGfT)
Posted by: dagny at June 30, 2010 05:08 PM (3DH2H)
Birth Certificate... birth canal... same difference? Does that mean we can start calling HIM a Birther?
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 30, 2010 01:10 PM (77Zbc)
Posted by: toby928 at June 30, 2010 01:10 PM (4WbTI)
Hey Al, what does Chakra mean? Does it mean I'm a stupid fat-fuck?
Posted by: Samuel Adams at June 30, 2010 01:11 PM (nxUYP)
Andrew Sullivan, David Brock, Charles Johnson, David Frum, David Brooks, Dave Wiegel, and Larry Marchant in...
The Magnificent Semen
Posted by: i like chubby asian chicks at June 30, 2010 01:11 PM (uFokq)
Is the envelope marked Business Reply Mail? As in, The Atlantic gets charged by weight?
I'm thinking cinderblock.
My answer was going to be "used toilet paper", but yours is better.
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at June 30, 2010 01:12 PM (ZxF0y)
Don't ask me how I know this; the experience was awful enough without having to discuss it.
I did this for you, Ace. I expect a free subscription to your blog and newsletter.
Posted by: NJConservative at June 30, 2010 01:13 PM (LH6ir)
To be fair to Quayle, wasn't the infamous "potatoe incident" largely a MFM fabrication?
Still, as far as I'm concerned, having a politician as father, mother or spouse should be a disqualifying factor for public office. Fuck these wannabe political dynasties.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 30, 2010 01:16 PM (P9+0W)
Posted by: i like chubby asian chicks at June 30, 2010 05:11 PM (uFokq)
Or the Malignant Seven?
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 30, 2010 01:17 PM (77Zbc)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at June 30, 2010 01:17 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: The MFM at June 30, 2010 01:17 PM (OKUdf)
Because I don't.
*scratches head and not understanding the fascination*
Posted by: laceyunderalls at June 30, 2010 01:18 PM (pLTLS)
And a scared rat will always try to bite.
Posted by: sifty at June 30, 2010 01:18 PM (JR2D9)
Posted by: Neo at June 30, 2010 01:18 PM (tE8FB)
Posted by: Sarah Palin at June 30, 2010 01:18 PM (HtIec)
Posted by: Person of Stupid at June 30, 2010 01:18 PM (PkPsS)
Posted by: LincolnTf at June 30, 2010 01:19 PM (Um3jj)
Posted by: ziptie at June 30, 2010 01:19 PM (lLS3Y)
Posted by: Neo at June 30, 2010 01:19 PM (tE8FB)
Posted by: SuperMag at June 30, 2010 01:20 PM (bCyV7)
Sometimes I fantasize about riding behind him, naked, on his snow mobile, but please don't tell mother.
Posted by: Person of Stupid. at June 30, 2010 01:20 PM (PkPsS)
Posted by: RayGunIsDead at June 30, 2010 05:18 PM (PkPsS)
FIFY.
Posted by: Samuel Adams at June 30, 2010 01:20 PM (nxUYP)
Ace Writes:
Now, if I had those three emails, should I just kind of throw up my hands and say "Well, some agree, some disagree, so I guess it's an open question; the controversy remains alive" ?
Of course not. Because each of those last three emails proved the case conclusively that my theory was provably, 100% wrong.
The "supportive" emails barely supported me, in that to really prove it I would need to ask every person on the face of the earth if he'd ever seen a green Beetle, and only if everyone said "No" would I be 99% sure I was right about there being no green Beetles. (Even then-- I could still be wrong!)
On the other hand, each of the undermining emails blew my theory completely out of the water and rubbished it. Each one of them proved my case utterly false. Because my theory, after all, was that green Beetles were impossible, and a single spotting of a green one proves they are possible.
This reminds me of the Birth Certificate controversy. I offered to PROVE that state officials WILL lie about birth certificates (by sending copies of BOTH of my birth certificates) and nobody at this website wants to see them.
Is it insane when you refuse to look at something that actually proves a point?
Posted by: Diogenes at June 30, 2010 01:20 PM (eVJ7T)
I'm thinking cinderblock.
It is indeed Biz Reply Mail. No postage necessary. I think the phrases "Michael Kelly achieving jet turbine speeds in his grave" and "maddened rantings of an amateur gynecologist" will fit nicely.
Posted by: Kevin in ABQ at June 30, 2010 01:20 PM (U4m5q)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at June 30, 2010 01:21 PM (0q2P7)
It was actually a school employee who spelled it wrong on the cards provided to Quayle at the spelling bee. The kid spelled it right Quayle went with the card and told him he was wrong and the MFM ran with it.
Since it is much funnier that a politician can't spell vs a union teacher or administrator that can't spell.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at June 30, 2010 01:23 PM (tf9Ne)
Posted by: davidt at June 30, 2010 01:24 PM (HtIec)
It just ain't so.
What's now sad is WE are losing to this Loony Crew. I sure hope the current polls are right because only a massive "realignment" in November will restore my faith in the intelligence of the average voter.
Posted by: Full Moon at June 30, 2010 01:25 PM (6UfSo)
Since it is much funnier that a Republican politician can't spell vs a union teacher or administrator that can't spell.
Truism. And adjusted for accuracy.
Posted by: i like chubby asian chicks at June 30, 2010 01:26 PM (uFokq)
Posted by: davidt at June 30, 2010 05:24 PM (HtIec)
I didn't know Ace supports open borders......
Posted by: Sponge at June 30, 2010 01:27 PM (UK9cE)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 30, 2010 01:27 PM (VW9/y)
Since it is much funnier that a politician can't spell vs a union teacher or administrator that can't spell or a President who can't pronunciate.
Posted by: Teleprompter Jose at June 30, 2010 01:27 PM (Oxen1)
It's like 2004 and the fake Dan Rather memos. Even if true that Bush had an easy coast of it almost thirty years ago, how does that relate to now?
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at June 30, 2010 01:28 PM (eNxMU)
Off topic - Pamela Gorman, the hot chick with the Tommy gun, is running against Ben Quayle, Dan's son, for the GOP nomination.
Ben started running ads on Ace and other conservative sites today. A hot chick who likes to pack heat or a kid whose dad can't spell. I think I will go with the hot chick.
Posted by: bc3b at June 30, 2010 04:55 PM (+QXu3)
You just know that he's been asked if he knows how to spell Potato at least 100 times by now.
Posted by: buzzion at June 30, 2010 01:28 PM (oVQFe)
I'm thinking cinderblock.
It is indeed Biz Reply Mail. No postage necessary. I think the phrases "Michael Kelly achieving jet turbine speeds in his grave" and "maddened rantings of an amateur gynecologist" will fit nicely.
Posted by: Kevin in ABQ at June 30, 2010 05:20 PM (U4m5q)
Amateur gay gynecologist that has nighmares of Palin's uterus would be better.
Posted by: buzzion at June 30, 2010 01:30 PM (oVQFe)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at June 30, 2010 01:30 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at June 30, 2010 01:31 PM (0q2P7)
The existence vel non of green Beetles is not open to real dispute: once it is established that there is a single instance of a green Beetle, the contention that green Beetles don't exist is disproven.
There's very different than saying a story holds water or it doesn't; there can be a virtually infinite number of variables in whether we believe a story or not.
That said: Sullivan is a self-righteous, desperate, pitiful little man who is wildly obsessed about that which he will never experience - the mechanisms of human reproduction. He views the hive-minded old biddies of the left as representative of females. He's fascinated to the point of incredulity by the concept of bright, principled (not to mention bonerific) women, because they are vanishingly rare on the left. He seeks to reconcile the cognitive dissonance caused him by Sarah Palin by trying to destroy her.
He is, in short, a fucking douche. Why do you give him any air time at all?
Posted by: Pavel at June 30, 2010 01:31 PM (bRdb3)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 30, 2010 01:32 PM (zgZzy)
Of course you wouldn't. It's okay. Coming Out is difficult, but you should be true to your nature. Don't live a lie. Believe it or not, even us "cons" will offer support for disclosing your homosexuality. No one should live with the heartache and pain of trying to hide one's orientation.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 30, 2010 01:32 PM (P9+0W)
Posted by: Person of Stupid at June 30, 2010 01:34 PM (PkPsS)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 30, 2010 01:34 PM (zgZzy)
He is from Indiana and was at a small local grocery store after he was VP. He helped my friend put groceries in her trunk. He is a really nice guy. No cameras around.. its just who he is.
I met him once at a book signing. He talked to my mom as if they knew each other for years.
He got a bum rap as a rich kid.. but they actually sold the family van to afford all the clothes for inauguration.
Posted by: Timbo at June 30, 2010 01:34 PM (ph9vn)
" " sob " " It all began when I subbed in the Beagle in place of my hamster. THE CLAWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE TEETH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
" " sob " "
Posted by: Insane Andi at June 30, 2010 01:36 PM (Zj8fM)
Posted by: Darth Sullivan at June 30, 2010 01:36 PM (l4wgH)
I think this is what happens if you suck a lot of cock. Nothing personal ladies.
Posted by: gus at June 30, 2010 01:36 PM (Vqruj)
Remember that movie Fantastic Voyage where the scientists miniaturized themselves so they could attack a virus in someone's body?
A-Sul was in that little craft, he deplaned when they got to the host body's fallopian tubes.
Posted by: kallisto at June 30, 2010 01:36 PM (+FkcS)
Posted by: Charles Johnson at June 30, 2010 01:37 PM (mka2b)
Posted by: Zombie Plato at June 30, 2010 01:38 PM (rFDlC)
When I am finished, I will have a completely built Tinker Toy dildo and it will ALREADY be lodged in my ass, cons!
Posted by: Person of Stupid at June 30, 2010 01:39 PM (PkPsS)
Posted by: RayGunIsDead at June 30, 2010 05:34 PM (PkPsS)
Only to those with 4 inch penises.
Posted by: Samuel Adams at June 30, 2010 01:39 PM (nxUYP)
A possible story only needs one prior instance.
A plausible story need only be not extremely rare.
If your sample in comments is say 1000 people, (I'm being generous) figure half of them are physically female, 70% of those are interested in procreative activity. 50% of those have actually gone through pregnancy (just throwing out reasonable estimates) Of those maybe 30% have been in a remotely similar circumstance, and......
you get 5 or 6 respondents who say the same thing happened to them? Well the story not only is possible, but very plausible. Any objective measure stipulates your non-believable story argument is wrong.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at June 30, 2010 01:41 PM (0q2P7)
Color is a quality. Your 'green' is in your imagination.
Actually, color is a vibration. My vibration takes eight D's.
Posted by: Andrew Sullivan at June 30, 2010 01:41 PM (Oxen1)
Posted by: Person of Stupid at June 30, 2010 01:41 PM (PkPsS)
Posted by: RayGunIsDead at June 30, 2010 05:39 PM (PkPsS)
You should tell Kilgore about your love. The Love That Dare Not Speak It's Name. You have the right to be happy. Be true to yourself. Be true to your nature.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 30, 2010 01:41 PM (P9+0W)
Posted by: robtr at June 30, 2010 01:42 PM (fwSHf)
Posted by: Andi "Killgore Taint" Sillyman at June 30, 2010 01:43 PM (kb0wl)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at June 30, 2010 05:41 PM (0q2P7)
Ah, but if you use the Daily Kos made up statistics Service? You can have any numbers you want...
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 30, 2010 01:43 PM (77Zbc)
Posted by: Truman North at June 30, 2010 01:43 PM (e8YaH)
Posted by: LincolnTf at June 30, 2010 01:43 PM (Um3jj)
Posted by: Person of Stupid at June 30, 2010 01:43 PM (PkPsS)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at June 30, 2010 01:44 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 30, 2010 01:44 PM (0QJjg)
Posted by: Stan at June 30, 2010 01:44 PM (9hFQV)
See, you know about the Cock. There is no shame in admitting your true nature. Be free. Be happy.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 30, 2010 01:44 PM (P9+0W)
Posted by: Jeff B. at June 30, 2010 01:45 PM (l1KFP)
Posted by: Autotune the Nudes at June 30, 2010 01:45 PM (DkEUV)
Posted by: RayGunIsDead at June 30, 2010 05:41 PM (PkPsS)
Length son, length. I'm sure your thickness is measured in cut fingernails.
Posted by: Samuel Adams at June 30, 2010 01:45 PM (nxUYP)
Dammit! How did I allow myself to overlook the obvious clues?
Posted by: Andrew Sullivan at June 30, 2010 01:47 PM (veL4N)
Posted by: Jean at June 30, 2010 01:48 PM (CPefM)
Posted by: Jean at June 30, 2010 01:49 PM (CPefM)
Posted by: Dr. Spank at June 30, 2010 01:49 PM (xO+6C)
Charles Sullivan is an idiot.
Posted by: DarkLordOfTheIntarWebs at June 30, 2010 01:50 PM (ps0+9)
Er, Andrew Sullivan. Though I'm certain there's a Charles Sullivan somewhere that is as well. And Charles Johnson. And they're both sufficiently idiotic they've blended into a gestalt of gestupid.
I will now crawl off somewhere and hide.
Posted by: DarkLordOfTheIntarWebs at June 30, 2010 01:51 PM (ps0+9)
I think this is what happens if you suck a lot of cock. Nothing personal ladies
Dude, we always knew this. Why do you think we only do it when jewelry is involved?
Posted by: Filly at June 30, 2010 01:51 PM (YbsWK)
@222 For those of us from Texas (and, I'm relatively certain Alaska, too) 4 days could be done.
I don't know if it could be done in labor, but it could be done...
Posted by: Allen G at June 30, 2010 01:53 PM (hH7n9)
Or as Dorothy Parker put it....if you don't have anything nice to say about anyone, come sit by me.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 30, 2010 01:53 PM (P9+0W)
Posted by: buzzion at June 30, 2010 01:54 PM (oVQFe)
Dude, we always knew this. Why do you think we only do it when jewelry is involved?
Well, that and pretty pathetic begging.
Don't judge me, dammit.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 30, 2010 01:55 PM (VBjuk)
Posted by: Joanie (Oven Gloves) at June 30, 2010 01:55 PM (wd0Iq)
Posted by: RayGunIsDead at June 30, 2010 01:56 PM (PkPsS)
I don't know why, but for the last 20 minutes or so, I've been getting the urge to break out the Grace Jones and Sylvester discs.
Posted by: kallisto at June 30, 2010 01:56 PM (+FkcS)
Posted by: Dr. Spank at June 30, 2010 01:57 PM (xO+6C)
Posted by: RayGunIsDead at June 30, 2010 01:57 PM (PkPsS)
Posted by: Andi Silliman and Charlie Peedergras at June 30, 2010 02:00 PM (kb0wl)
*takes victory lap, sucking no one's cock in the process*
Posted by: Filly at June 30, 2010 02:00 PM (YbsWK)
Posted by: Dianne at June 30, 2010 02:02 PM (eWsHu)
Posted by: George Orwell at June 30, 2010 02:02 PM (AZGON)
Ugh, it's so repetitive. Uninspired backwash mostly. Probably cribbed from some dkos diarist/farktard. The language is stilted and choppy enough that it should be pretty easy to spot over there, if someone were daft enough to go there.
Posted by: The Dread Pirate No Beard at June 30, 2010 05:57 PM (wOtDN)
Well yeah his normal posts are. I'm hoping though that just maybe the dipshit realizes all of his comments are being changed around. And it causes some epic blow up.
All his other posts are the mindless drivel of a dipshit that spends his time bitching and accusing Conservatives of things that the Democrats are actually the supporters of.
Posted by: buzzion at June 30, 2010 02:05 PM (oVQFe)
Posted by: Person of Stupid at June 30, 2010 02:05 PM (PkPsS)
Posted by: RayGunIsDead at June 30, 2010 06:05 PM (PkPsS)
You mean you spend your free time going to other websites shouting the N-word?
Posted by: buzzion at June 30, 2010 02:08 PM (oVQFe)
See? You're soulmates. Don't deny yourself the chance at a life of happiness. Declare your love for him. Coming Out only hurts in the short term.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 30, 2010 02:10 PM (P9+0W)
1) Big believers in imaginary beings, then doing the exact opposite that said imaginary being tells you to do. wingnut
2) Cut regulations as business will regulate itself. wingnut.
3) Cut taxes to the ultra rich and let it trickle down to the crumb eaters. wingnut.
etc, etc.
Posted by: RayGunIsDead at June 30, 2010 02:11 PM (PkPsS)
Posted by: George Orwell at June 30, 2010 02:11 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: YRM at June 30, 2010 02:12 PM (uLoHz)
Posted by: George Orwell at June 30, 2010 02:14 PM (AZGON)
It's the Black Swan fallacy, from which Nasim Nicholas Taleb drew the title of his bestselling book. In the world before Magellan's voyage, the following syllogism was a common example of inductive logic:
1) All swans are white.
2) Henrietta is a swan.
3) Therefore, Henrietta is white.
Then Europeans made it to Australia, and for the first time they saw a swan (a swan-like bird, anyway) that was black. And the major premise of the syllogism became inoperative. (They had to go back to the "All men are mortal; Socrates is a man; therefore, Socrates is mortal" example in their logic classes.)
Posted by: stuiec at June 30, 2010 02:14 PM (7AOgy)
Posted by: Dan at June 30, 2010 02:16 PM (1jzSs)
Posted by: YRM at June 30, 2010 06:12 PM (uLoHz)
Does he have a job in the private sector? Tell him to stop playing into the rich man's hands by accepting a paycheck. Tell him that only a hypocrite would continue to work for a corporation when he knows that just feeds the system of economic exploitation.
Posted by: stuiec at June 30, 2010 02:16 PM (7AOgy)
example?
2) Cut regulations as business will regulate itself. wingnut.
and when has this failed? conservatism doesn't believe in giving away money to business as dems and libs have done
3) Cut taxes to the ultra rich and let it trickle down to the crumb eaters. wingnut.
which had 100% success rate, look up Reagan and Coolidge; crumb etaers tend to not want to do anything w/ their lives
PS:what's w/ the whole wingnut thing? using your logic and constant use of the word i can keep calling you a wingnut too
Posted by: YRM at June 30, 2010 02:16 PM (uLoHz)
The Turds.
Posted by: Samuel Adams at June 30, 2010 02:17 PM (nxUYP)
Posted by: stuiec at June 30, 2010 06:16 PM (7AOgy)
he doesn't know how to keep a job and relies on his woman to get him everything
Posted by: YRM at June 30, 2010 02:17 PM (uLoHz)
Stay away already. You don't need this.
Posted by: Ace's Mama at June 30, 2010 02:17 PM (YhZfg)
Posted by: sherlock at June 30, 2010 02:18 PM (N7uu0)
W looks like Lincoln compared to Obama, you wanna run Dubya and Obama's records against each other, let's go
Posted by: YRM at June 30, 2010 02:18 PM (uLoHz)
And did he ever answer his own question "Why Trig Matters"? Who freaking cares?
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at June 30, 2010 02:19 PM (9hSKh)
Posted by: George Orwell at June 30, 2010 02:19 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: stuiec at June 30, 2010 06:16 PM (7AOgy)
and oh yeah he was praising Robert Reich as an awesome guy
Posted by: YRM at June 30, 2010 02:20 PM (uLoHz)
Posted by: George Orwell at June 30, 2010 02:21 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: RayGunIsDead at June 30, 2010 06:16 PM (PkPsS)
now tell me again why you voted for Jugears?
Posted by: Racefan at June 30, 2010 02:22 PM (AklMw)
Posted by: Person of Stupid at June 30, 2010 02:24 PM (PkPsS)
Since she also famously beat up a raccoon with her bare hands once (a true story) I would suggest that if Sullivan has a problem with women in labor boarding planes to reach their preferred doctors that he should tell Summitt so to her face... and then run like hell.
Posted by: Lady Vol Fan at June 30, 2010 02:24 PM (sfNbl)
Big believers in imaginary beings, then doing the exact opposite that said imaginary being tells you to do.
Another irony meter up in smoke.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 30, 2010 02:24 PM (VBjuk)
Starring Andrew Sullivan and Joe McGinniss.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at June 30, 2010 05:20 PM (0q2P7)
Should be: Side Window, Rear Entry
Posted by: stuiec at June 30, 2010 02:25 PM (7AOgy)
Aw, look, it's precious little Raykon. He thinks he's a 1337 h4x0r 'cuz he can use a proxy to change his hashcode.
Are you ready to tell us which "arctic unit" you served in, little Raykon? Oh, that's right, you can't, because you lied. You never really served in the military, little Raykon.
Poor little Raykon gets pwn3d again.
Posted by: ol_dirty_/b/tard at June 30, 2010 02:25 PM (IoUF1)
Posted by: George Orwell at June 30, 2010 02:25 PM (AZGON)
Throw Momma from the Airplane
Posted by: Movie Preview Guy at June 30, 2010 02:26 PM (M/6wm)
he doesn't know how to keep a job and relies on his woman to get him everything
Posted by: YRM at June 30, 2010 06:17 PM (uLoHz)
Hmmm... does she work in the private sector? Maybe he can start hectoring her to quit feeding the capitalist beast.
Posted by: stuiec at June 30, 2010 02:26 PM (7AOgy)
Posted by: dagny at June 30, 2010 02:27 PM (3DH2H)
And how's my friend Palin Steele? Is he still with "Dolly", or did she "break" (up) on him?
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at June 30, 2010 02:27 PM (9hSKh)
Posted by: Jimmy Page at June 30, 2010 02:28 PM (9ui6r)
Posted by: Person of Stupid at June 30, 2010 02:28 PM (PkPsS)
1. Vote for thin-resume lightweight for President.
2. Bitch incessantly about his predecessor.
3. ???
4. Tax the profit!!!!
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 30, 2010 02:29 PM (VBjuk)
Posted by: Hindenburg Amalgamated, AG at June 30, 2010 02:29 PM (swuwV)
Posted by: George Orwell at June 30, 2010 02:29 PM (AZGON)
WISH I HAD A VULVA BAY-BEE!
Posted by: "Pull up to my bumper" as sung by Fabulous Andi S. at June 30, 2010 02:30 PM (UnMRd)
Try telling that to Dipshit Sullivan, Private Dick.
His obsession with Palin and her child is baffling. Is it a case where he just can't let go of his pet theory, regardless of the overwhelming evidence, or is it the result of his animus against Palin herself? Both?
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at June 30, 2010 02:32 PM (9hSKh)
Posted by: George Orwell at June 30, 2010 02:32 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: Dan at June 30, 2010 06:16 PM (1jzSs)
I think it's excerpts from the speech she gave in Norfolk.
Posted by: ol_dirty_/b/tard at June 30, 2010 02:33 PM (IoUF1)
Posted by: buzzion at June 30, 2010 02:33 PM (oVQFe)
Posted by: Machines For Sale at June 30, 2010 02:35 PM (cmdrQ)
Posted by: buzzion at June 30, 2010 06:33 PM (oVQFe)
yeah......... and most of the night.
Posted by: Racefan at June 30, 2010 02:36 PM (AklMw)
I bow to Kilgore. I would suck marshmallows straight from his butthole
Because, however, he is not available for said butthole sucking, I am forced to insert serveral large marshmallows into my own rectum so that they may absorb the butthole smell and taste that I so crave.
Posted by: Person of Stupid at June 30, 2010 02:37 PM (PkPsS)
Posted by: George Orwell at June 30, 2010 02:37 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: davidt at June 30, 2010 06:30 PM (HtIec)
No, the troll is just too fucking stupid to know we were referring to the Kilgore Trout from Little Green Slimeballs and not the Kilgore Trout from Vonnegut's novels. See the oil spill thread from last night.
Posted by: ol_dirty_/b/tard at June 30, 2010 02:38 PM (IoUF1)
Posted by: dagny at June 30, 2010 02:38 PM (3DH2H)
Posted by: George Orwell at June 30, 2010 02:39 PM (AZGON)
You ever wonder how one becomes "ultra-rich" well one makes money. Ultra-rich are compulsive money makers. The instant they make money they can only think about making more. Making money becomes its own end, often to the detriment of friends and family. And they make more and more and more and more. And....well all that money making = economic growth. For them to make a dollar, they had to spend 90 cents paying workers, buying raw materials, manufacturing etc etc. In the end we got the goods, and the services. And what's mister rich guy going to do with his buck? Use it to make a $1.10 and we get the goods, we get the services. Money is a fiction jackass, read Modern Money Mechanics, you'll understand, the goods, that's what we get the stuff that has real value. Rich people just act as a highly efficient pump of putting money into goods in services that people want. Well government is concerned with making my hopes and dreams come true, like the rich guy is, Government only concerns itself not with gathering wealth, but gathering power. And they will decide what I can receive that will forward that goal. My hopes and dreams be damned. Your statement is correct, and that's why libs know nothing about non-Marxist economies except how to collapse them.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at June 30, 2010 02:39 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Andi Vagina and the Fabulous Ladyparts at June 30, 2010 02:40 PM (kcPVO)
Posted by: Dan at June 30, 2010 02:42 PM (1jzSs)
All this "efficient pump" talk is getting me tingly.
Posted by: Person of Stupid at June 30, 2010 02:42 PM (PkPsS)
Holy fuck, that's almost as good as the "100% naked sweaty human skin prom gown machines chasing you" spam he left the on this thread last week.
Posted by: ol_dirty_/b/tard at June 30, 2010 02:43 PM (IoUF1)
Posted by: Joanie (Oven Gloves) at June 30, 2010 02:43 PM (wd0Iq)
Posted by: George Orwell at June 30, 2010 02:43 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: Al Gore at June 30, 2010 02:46 PM (AZGON)
i'd say best wishes but in his and evolution world, it has as much significance and empathy as me taking a crap
I wish him the best, but according to his beliefs we all should just shrug our shoulders at this
Posted by: YRM at June 30, 2010 02:48 PM (uLoHz)
he doesn't know how to keep a job and relies on
his woman to get him everything
Posted by: YRM at June 30, 2010 06:17 PM (uLoHz)
So your brother could be the troll?
Posted by: redneck, tea=baggin' bitch at June 30, 2010 02:48 PM (G0eZh)
I want to hear William Shatner do a poetic reading of that spam.
Posted by: ol_dirty_/b/tard at June 30, 2010 02:49 PM (IoUF1)
Posted by: Person of Stupid at June 30, 2010 02:49 PM (PkPsS)
Hey can we get some drive time bewbage or something? Sullivan is about boring as far as a topic goes.
Posted by: Dang Straights at June 30, 2010 02:49 PM (SyZzi)
oh, and cons cons conny con con.
Posted by: sifty at June 30, 2010 02:50 PM (JR2D9)
Posted by: George Orwell at June 30, 2010 02:50 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: Andrew Not Sullivan at June 30, 2010 02:50 PM (l4wgH)
No, you did not know that, cons. Because you are anti-science and filled with fear of your sexuality.
Posted by: Person of Stupid at June 30, 2010 02:53 PM (PkPsS)
Posted by: name changed to protect the guilty at June 30, 2010 02:54 PM (bjYAr)
Local news here in L.A just reported that Mexicans south of the border have shot at and hit El Paso City Hall. I'm so sick of that backward third world narco-state on our border with it's gangsters coming here lecturing us on our immigration policy while they beat and imprison their illegals, not to mention they've militarized their border with Guatemala.
It's time to nuke a Mexican city, preferably one saturated with drug cartels and corrupt officials.
http://www.elpasotimes.com/ci_15411359
Posted by: Dillinger at June 30, 2010 02:54 PM (BedzM)
Posted by: sifty at June 30, 2010 02:55 PM (JR2D9)
His fixation on Palin's uterus is beyond bizarre. Didn't he have strange Freudian dreams about gardens too?
Posted by: lauren at June 30, 2010 02:55 PM (MVwBA)
But since it's impossible to tell which posts are actually written by him anyway any more, what's the point?
Posted by: Kensington at June 30, 2010 02:56 PM (aDdAT)
Posted by: RayGunIsDead at June 30, 2010 06:42 PM (PkPsS)
look sarah......... its like this. we cuss and shit on here alot...... we say goddamn, fuck you. cocksucker and every other word you can think of. but we take the C word very lightly. thats one word you never see us use...........
last night i did.......... I said FUCK YOU CUNT and you left. you are a weak pussy who has no balls and never will............
Posted by: Racefan at June 30, 2010 02:56 PM (AklMw)
Posted by: sifty at June 30, 2010 02:56 PM (JR2D9)
Posted by: George Orwell at June 30, 2010 02:57 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: Person of Stupid at June 30, 2010 02:57 PM (PkPsS)
Yup. Here's what he wrote on June 3rd (?).
"I had a dream last night that I was lost in Sarah PalinÂ’s garden. It was springtime, and there were bluebells everywhere. I suddenly realized where I was and tried to get out to the street. But there was just more garden Â… "
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at June 30, 2010 02:59 PM (9hSKh)
Posted by: sifty at June 30, 2010 06:50 PM (JR2D9)
SSI and SS checks come on the third of the month, bro. That's why all them peeps wuz still in Nawleans. Katrina hit right at the end of August, when everyone be waiting on the checks
If it come three days later, totally diff situation
Posted by: Joe Fucking Big Deal Biden at June 30, 2010 02:59 PM (JrRME)
Posted by: Person of Stupid at June 30, 2010 02:59 PM (PkPsS)
As I watched my brother go from a healthy free-thinking good man and end up an 80 pound stick figure due to Pancreatic cancer who eventually died. Then watch him begin to recognize faith and what the afterlife offers during his illness, I often wonder what Mr. Hitchens will feel down the road when or if his cancer progresses to the dreaded stage 4.
Posted by: Samuel Adams at June 30, 2010 02:59 PM (nxUYP)
Posted by: RayGunIsDead at June 30, 2010 06:57 PM (PkPsS)
you never reply to anything just keep attacking, your worthless in this blog stop commenting
Posted by: YRM at June 30, 2010 02:59 PM (uLoHz)
Even when jug-eared dumbasses like Obama and you cultists try it.
Posted by: sifty at June 30, 2010 03:00 PM (JR2D9)
Posted by: George Orwell at June 30, 2010 03:00 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: lauren at June 30, 2010 03:01 PM (MVwBA)
And mayo, Ace, don't forget the tubs of mayo at BK; I believe we learned about that technique on an ONT a few days ago...
Posted by: redneck, tea=baggin' bitch at June 30, 2010 03:02 PM (G0eZh)
Posted by: Samuel Adams at June 30, 2010 06:59 PM (nxUYP)
well according to Hitchen's beliefs we really shouldn't care, after all it's just evolution taking out the weak 
Posted by: YRM at June 30, 2010 03:02 PM (uLoHz)
You had some good comments but I get cut off and over written. Like this one comment i had, I said, "Cons! You are stupid! God is bad!"
That was a good one, but no one got to see it.
Posted by: Person of Stupid at June 30, 2010 03:02 PM (PkPsS)
He/she/it is boring. At least Palin Steele was funny, even if unintentionally so.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at June 30, 2010 03:02 PM (9hSKh)
Posted by: sifty at June 30, 2010 03:02 PM (JR2D9)
Posted by: George Orwell at June 30, 2010 03:03 PM (AZGON)
I thought about poking over to the Daily Douche myself just to see what the lunatic is up to, and, indeed, he's still carrying on about Palin and/or her "clones" (Pamela Gorman).
But since it's impossible to tell which posts are actually written by him anyway any more, what's the point?
I think it's safe to assume that the batshit crazy conspiracy theory posts about Palin are written by Sullivan personally.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at June 30, 2010 03:04 PM (plsiE)
Too bad about Hitchens. He rolled the dice with cigs and booze and lost.
I would argue genetics has a lot more to do with the cancer. Unless you were one of those poor bastards at Chernobyl.
If not, I'm f*cked; and I'm f*cked anyway cuz of family history of heart disease. Meh.
Posted by: Dang Straights at June 30, 2010 03:04 PM (SyZzi)
Posted by: lauren at June 30, 2010 03:05 PM (MVwBA)
Posted by: RayGunIsDead at June 30, 2010 07:02 PM (PkPsS)
many excuses you make, troll. "Overwritten", eh?
You just make shit up, in between lame pussy excuses
Posted by: Joe Fucking Big Deal Biden at June 30, 2010 03:05 PM (JrRME)
Posted by: RayGunIsDead at June 30, 2010 07:02 PM (PkPsS)
h/o on a sec, do I have the wrong guy, dude are you a fellow moron? you don't sound like the troll i was refering to, that last comment was too sophisticated
my apologies, jumped after I saw Raygun
Posted by: YRM at June 30, 2010 03:05 PM (uLoHz)
Yeah, crazy Andy is crazy. I get it.
Now, back to "The destruction of America will be televised" via the L.A. Times.
Reporting from Washington —It would be a revival worthy of Lazarus, but President Obama is making a renewed push for an immigration overhaul, possibly during a lame-duck session of Congress after the November election — when members would no longer face an imminent political risk for supporting it.
Obama met with members of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus in the State Dining Room on Tuesday and discussed a strategy for passing a bill that had seemed dead for the year.
Posted by: Jim in San Diego at June 30, 2010 03:05 PM (oIp16)
You had some good comments but I get cut off and over written so didn't have time to reply. Plus this site moves relatively fast.
Posted by: RayGunIsDead at June 30, 2010 07:02 PM (PkPsS)
Would you like us to slow down for you so you can keep up? I know its not as easy to follow as one of Obumbles speeches since our thoughts are actually fluid and there are no excessive pauses and "ums" to allow you to catch up.
Posted by: buzzion at June 30, 2010 03:05 PM (oVQFe)
Posted by: YRM at June 30, 2010 03:06 PM (uLoHz)
Posted by: George Orwell at June 30, 2010 03:08 PM (AZGON)
i'd say best wishes but in his and evolution world, it has as much significance and empathy as me taking a crap
I wish him the best, but according to his beliefs we all should just shrug our shoulders at this
Posted by: YRM at June 30, 2010 06:48 PM (uLoHz)
He lived. He's going to die. In between, he made some people smile and pissed off other people.
In the end, the Sun will go red giant and none of it will matter (according to his cosmology).
Posted by: stuiec at June 30, 2010 03:08 PM (7AOgy)
You still insist you were in the USAF?
I thought he was a Very Important International Financier Space Cowboy NFL Star?
Posted by: Dang Straights at June 30, 2010 03:09 PM (SyZzi)
well according to Hitchen's beliefs we really shouldn't care, after all it's just evolution taking out the weak
Posted by: YRM at June 30, 2010 07:02 PM (uLoHz)
In actually, if it is terminal, down the road he will have that discussion I guarantee it. He may not admit it and remain defiant to the end, but privately he will have a "come to Jesus moment." What's that saying?..."There are no atheists in a foxhole."
Posted by: Samuel Adams at June 30, 2010 03:09 PM (nxUYP)
Posted by: redneck, tea-baggin' bitch at June 30, 2010 03:09 PM (G0eZh)
There's a joke about stolen hubcaps in there somewhere but I'm not touching it.
Hmm. I wonder if there is a Congressional Honkey Caucus.
Posted by: sifty at June 30, 2010 03:09 PM (JR2D9)
Posted by: YRM at June 30, 2010 07:06 PM (uLoHz)
Its hard to parody a troll like Raykon. Everything he already says is over the top and batshit insane.
Posted by: buzzion at June 30, 2010 03:10 PM (oVQFe)
Posted by: lauren at June 30, 2010 03:11 PM (MVwBA)
Amen. I agree.
Sorry I can't address you individually as I am frequently overwritten.
Kevorkian; We are all terminal...
Posted by: RayGunIsDead at June 30, 2010 03:11 PM (PkPsS)
So sayeth the Hitchens so say we all?
Who said libbies can't find religion?
Do wingnuts read anything but the bible? And history books?
Let me check my e-reader.
Douay Rheims Bible translation, WEB Bible translation, King James Bible translation, NAB Bible translation, NIV Bible translation, The Republic, Ethics, Politics, Don Quixote, A Patriots Guide to US History, wait wait, here's something modern, The Overton Window!
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at June 30, 2010 03:11 PM (0q2P7)
there have been more life saving break thrus in diagnostics and treatments for heart disease than esophageal cancer.
Hellz yeah. I'm gonna take off a friday and have angioplasty over the long weekend sometime soon, before Wee Wee can destroy AETNA. That will add a few more years of debauchery, at least.
Posted by: Dang Straights at June 30, 2010 03:13 PM (SyZzi)
Posted by: Person of Stupid at June 30, 2010 03:14 PM (PkPsS)
Posted by: lauren at June 30, 2010 03:15 PM (MVwBA)
Hasn't had enough to drink yet, give it time. Its parents will be going out soon, so it can steal some liquor and start begging Ace to hire it again.
Posted by: redneck, tea-baggin' bitch at June 30, 2010 03:15 PM (G0eZh)
Amen. I agree.
Posted by: RayGunIsDead at June 30, 2010 07:11 PM (PkPsS)
Here's a thought: why not off yourself now and avoid the rush? It's not as if you have anything worth living for that won't simply be obliterated from existence and memory once you die. You DO believe that living is useless and worthless, don't you?
Posted by: stuiec at June 30, 2010 03:15 PM (7AOgy)
I think he already stated the bases.
Who was your commanding officer?
Why would you care?
What was his rank?
My officer was Commander Brand Hardcastle of the 2nd United Aqua Velva Corps.
I was stationed on New Courier, Sans Serif where I was Chief Operating Officer for teh 822 Fighting Stallions.
Posted by: Person of Stupid at June 30, 2010 03:16 PM (PkPsS)
And mayo, Ace, don't forget the tubs of mayo at BK; I believe we learned about that technique on an ONT a few days ago...
Posted by: redneck, tea=baggin' bitch at June 30, 2010 07:02 PM (G0eZh)
thanks to our uncle Kratos for that little tidbit of imformation.........
Posted by: Racefan at June 30, 2010 03:16 PM (AklMw)
Do wingnuts read anything but the bible? And history books?
Posted by: RayGunIsDead at June 30, 2010 06:57 PM (PkPsS)
You write like a comic book might be a challenge to your reading ability as well as your intellect, which rivals a single celled organism.
Posted by: maddogg at June 30, 2010 03:16 PM (DqSon)
I'm reading
Patriarch: George Washington,
Liberty or Death: The Uncompromising Patriotism of Patrick Henry, Dungeon, Fire and Sword: The Knights Templar
and a book of nurse porn I got at the used book store for the cover art.
Posted by: sifty at June 30, 2010 03:17 PM (JR2D9)
We've gone from the stone age to space flight in a few thousand years and you think we are still going to be here 5 billion years from now? Wow that is powerful stupid. That's like imagining you are going to live your 75 year average life span in the hospital nursery because that's where you woke up on day one.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at June 30, 2010 03:17 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: redneck, tea-baggin' bitch at June 30, 2010 03:18 PM (G0eZh)
Posted by: Joanie (Oven Gloves) at June 30, 2010 03:18 PM (wd0Iq)
Hasn't had enough to drink yet, give it time. Its parents will be going out soon, so it can steal some liquor and start begging Ace to hire it again.
Posted by: redneck, tea-baggin' bitch at June 30, 2010 07:15 PM (G0eZh)
He already did. He thinks Kilgore is his kindred spirit. In other words he spends a lot of his free time shouting the N-word.
Posted by: buzzion at June 30, 2010 03:18 PM (oVQFe)
Its just what it is. Nothing more, nothing less. In the end, Mom makes us peanut butter sandwiches with the crusts cut off and we get to have pizza rolls on Friday nights and stay up late. *shrugs*
Posted by: Person of Stupid at June 30, 2010 03:18 PM (PkPsS)
About being in the military? Or one of the other stupid lies I keep telling?
Posted by: Person of Stupid at June 30, 2010 03:20 PM (PkPsS)
I still remember the day me and Sgt Stratocaster climbed up Womprat Hill and got jumped by some Crips from the Korean 21st.
The Sarge hosed 'em down with his Sidewinder pistol while I engaged in hand to hand combat with their cavalry. I took down 20 horses, the poor things, but that's war. War is hell.
Posted by: Person of Stupid at June 30, 2010 03:21 PM (PkPsS)
ace that hypothetical is totally specious.
There's no such thing as a color called "green"
Posted by: s'moron at June 30, 2010 04:45 PM (UaxA0)
I totally agree. I've never seen a color called "green". Geez, man, try to use an example we can relate to.
Posted by: Ace's liver at June 30, 2010 03:21 PM (XIXhw)
Posted by: lauren at June 30, 2010 07:01 PM (MVwBA)
I'd reserve the "too young" plaint for people who die in their twenties or younger.
Posted by: stuiec at June 30, 2010 03:21 PM (7AOgy)
Nice.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at June 30, 2010 03:22 PM (M9BNu)
Posted by: KayInMaine at June 30, 2010 03:23 PM (qvhgr)
Posted by: redneck, tea-baggin' bitch at June 30, 2010 03:23 PM (G0eZh)
Posted by: RayGunIsDead at June 30, 2010 07:21 PM (PkPsS)
Yeah, I'll bet peeling all those spuds and cleaning all those latrines got old, didn't it?
Posted by: maddogg at June 30, 2010 03:24 PM (DqSon)
Posted by: YRM at June 30, 2010 03:24 PM (uLoHz)
Posted by: buzzion at June 30, 2010 03:25 PM (oVQFe)
I don't know how old people are thinking Hitchens is. The man is 61, which, if he dies tomorrow, is still a pretty good run considering how much alcohol he's imbibed over the years.
Posted by: Ace's liver at June 30, 2010 03:25 PM (XIXhw)
Posted by: gomm at June 30, 2010 03:25 PM (7JES6)
Have the doctors finally upped your amount of happy pills?
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at June 30, 2010 03:26 PM (9hSKh)
Posted by: Person of Stupid at June 30, 2010 03:26 PM (PkPsS)
Posted by: maddogg at June 30, 2010 03:27 PM (DqSon)
Ask me to quote words from the book. Page number and line number. See how I do. Its on my shelf.
Just don't ask me where I served. That's way to much work.
Posted by: Person of Stupid at June 30, 2010 03:27 PM (PkPsS)
Posted by: RayGunIsDead at June 30, 2010 07:26 PM (PkPsS)
or you could save us the worthless fight and just go
Posted by: YRM at June 30, 2010 03:27 PM (uLoHz)
I thought the House had already passed a version of this and we were waiting on the Piss Clodd bill from the Senate to reconcile.
Well the House better get their shit in one sack soon because they will not be back next year.
Posted by: Vic at June 30, 2010 03:27 PM (6taRI)
Waste-burning duty too?
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at June 30, 2010 03:27 PM (9hSKh)
Okay, who the fuck are you and what did you do to Stephen King?
Posted by: Samuel Adams at June 30, 2010 03:28 PM (nxUYP)
That is the height of arrogance and ignorance right there, to believe for an instant that the meager 5 senses you have, have revealed all there is to know about existence. That is how my dog thinks. All she sees is all that is. At no point in human history have we ever had a conclusive scientific explanation for existence. Every glimpse beyond the curtain of perception reveals 10 more questions for every one we answer. And yet you are content to live not only a meaningless life, but also to do so without the intellectual curiosity to say that there might be more than you can see and look for it. Thank God true scholarly pursuit is handled by those of greater imagination than yourself. Otherwise we'd still be throwing rocks at each other.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at June 30, 2010 03:28 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: RayGunIsDead at June 30, 2010 07:27 PM (PkPsS)
I'll bet it's soooo ronery.
Posted by: maddogg at June 30, 2010 03:29 PM (DqSon)
Posted by: sifty at June 30, 2010 03:29 PM (JR2D9)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at June 30, 2010 07:17 PM (0q2P7)
First, I was attributing the notion to Hitchens. I believe that in five billion years' time, we will have evolved into something we cannot currently comprehend and will have touched other galaxies.
Second, I am not sure that in 14 billion years' time, if and when the Universe that we know has ended, we will have found a means to escape to a different one. But well we may. And we just might find that God waits for us there.
Posted by: stuiec at June 30, 2010 03:29 PM (7AOgy)
Ask me to quote words from the book. Page number and line number. See how I do. Its on my shelf.
Posted by: RayGunIsDead at June 30, 2010 07:27 PM (PkPsS)
Because all published versions of the book use the exact same typeface, and spacing. All versions have the exact same number of lines per page.
Posted by: buzzion at June 30, 2010 03:30 PM (oVQFe)
Posted by: RayGunIsDead at June 30, 2010 07:26 PM (PkPsS)
So, why don't you give us the roaches perspective?
Posted by: maddogg at June 30, 2010 03:31 PM (DqSon)
Ask me to quote words from the book. Page number and line number. See how I do. Its on my shelf.
Posted by: RayGunIsDead at June 30, 2010 07:27 PM (PkPsS)
Which edition, genius?
Posted by: Joe Fucking Big Deal Biden at June 30, 2010 03:31 PM (JrRME)
Posted by: sifty at June 30, 2010 07:29 PM (JR2D9)
I wonder if Hitchens would ever admit it. He probably wouldn't ever give his brother Peter that satisfaction.
Esophageal cancer is one of the very worst -- there's no way to avoid using your esophagus or putting it into a cast, so the pain is there all the time.
Posted by: stuiec at June 30, 2010 03:33 PM (7AOgy)
______________________________________________________________
Aren't you commies supposed to be ready to die at your Dear Leader's whim?
Posted by: sifty at June 30, 2010 03:34 PM (JR2D9)
Posted by: Person of Stupid at June 30, 2010 03:34 PM (PkPsS)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at June 30, 2010 03:36 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Person of Stupid at June 30, 2010 03:37 PM (PkPsS)
Einstein believed God created the universe and walked off. I don't even believe that, but a personal God is ...
Posted by: RayGunIsDead at June 30, 2010 07:34 PM (PkPsS)
troll, I don't care what 'comforts' you. You come here to discomfort people, and you're dishonest and dim. Go read your comforting book....
BTW, Einstein clearly expressed his belief in God--which is not as you describe it, of course
Posted by: Joe Fucking Big Deal Biden at June 30, 2010 03:38 PM (JrRME)
Read someone else's work on a scientist who believed in deism. Sure I'll add that to my reading list, looks like according to priority it fits right in slot 20532, at the current pace I'll make it to that slot when I turn 250.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at June 30, 2010 03:39 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: RayGunIsDead at June 30, 2010 07:37 PM (PkPsS)
tell me about the 'arctic unit' you served in
( sock off )
Posted by: SantaRosaStan at June 30, 2010 03:40 PM (JrRME)
I've got you and everyone else beat, including that fucking politically correct kiss the victims ass wear the pink ribbon breast cancer. Also, even though my death rate is around 90%, you will never see NFL players or any other athletes wearing the ribbon for me. Ask Patrick Swayze or Michael Landon or Gene Upshaw or my brother.
Posted by: Pancratic Cancer at June 30, 2010 03:40 PM (nxUYP)
Its been awhile. Sancho?
No it was an Inn Keeper running the first Inn Don found on his adventures. Don mistook the Inn for a castle and the keeper the local lord.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at June 30, 2010 03:40 PM (0q2P7)
Second, I am not sure that in 14 billion years' time, if and when the Universe that we know has ended, we will have found a means to escape to a different one. But well we may. And we just might find that God waits for us there.
Posted by: stuiec at June 30, 2010 07:29 PM (7AOgy)
It's all over in 2012, dumbass.Posted by: Mayan Calendar at June 30, 2010 03:41 PM (7+pP9)
Just because mommy owns the book and told you a little about it, doesn't mean you read it troll.
Posted by: buzzion at June 30, 2010 03:41 PM (oVQFe)
Posted by: RayGunIsDead at June 30, 2010 07:26 PM (PkPsS)
Humans are blessed with the self-awareness that lets them figure out big, important ideas, like whether there is a God. The really enlightened ones who know that there is no God should have no problem overcoming their instinctive clinging to life. In fact, they should be leading the way by example, taking their own lives to show how silly and superstitious the rest of us are for clinging to our miserable existence and our irrational religious beliefs.
Only bitter clingers are stupid and primitive enough to want to live -- and anyone who claims to be enlightened and yet refuses to off himself is a hypocrite of the first magnitude.
Posted by: stuiec at June 30, 2010 03:41 PM (7AOgy)
Posted by: Person of Stupid at June 30, 2010 07:34 PM (PkPsS)
well you may want to rethink a few things about your life. just kinda throwing that out there for you.
Posted by: Racefan at June 30, 2010 03:41 PM (AklMw)
Posted by: sifty at June 30, 2010 03:43 PM (JR2D9)
Posted by: Person of Stupid at June 30, 2010 07:34 PM (PkPsS)
FIFY.
Posted by: conscious, but incoherent at June 30, 2010 03:43 PM (YVZlY)
Posted by: Mayan Calendar at June 30, 2010 07:41 PM (7+pP9)
2012, 20,012, or 14,000,002,012 - whatevs.
Posted by: stuiec at June 30, 2010 03:43 PM (7AOgy)
Mom's freezer. The classic battle of the fudgesicles.
Posted by: Soap MacTavish at June 30, 2010 03:43 PM (554T5)
Posted by: sifty at June 30, 2010 07:43 PM (JR2D9)
I am sure they figured, "What will they need our forwarding address for after 2012?"
Posted by: stuiec at June 30, 2010 03:44 PM (7AOgy)
Damn, damn, damn. I remember the Inn, not the knighting.
Don was a little deranged. Him being stoned by the sheep herders was hilarious I thought.
Posted by: RayGunIsDead at June 30, 2010 03:44 PM (PkPsS)
Especially with his pet flies and rats. And his imps like Andi and raykon.
Posted by: sifty at June 30, 2010 03:47 PM (JR2D9)
Posted by: Pancratic Cancer at June 30, 2010 07:40 PM (nxUYP)
Sorry about your brother. Pancreatic cancer is another one of those really, really long odds things -- one hates to say that it's an automatic death sentence, but it's not far from it.
Posted by: stuiec at June 30, 2010 03:47 PM (7AOgy)
Venezuela govt to nationalize 11 US-owned oil rigs
Posted by: Garbonzo the Garrulous at June 30, 2010 03:47 PM (N/7an)
Posted by: SarahW at June 30, 2010 03:49 PM (Z4T49)
Posted by: RayGunIsDead at June 30, 2010 07:48 PM (PkPsS)
Yeah every post you make is exactly the same. All you are is an echo.
Posted by: buzzion at June 30, 2010 03:49 PM (oVQFe)
Posted by: sifty at June 30, 2010 03:50 PM (JR2D9)
That's straight out of the Yahoo comments section yesterday for the AP story about how Americans are "overtreated" and should just go away and die when they get cancer instead of trying to fight.
OK, when you're young and healthy you might think you'd rather get a hot shot than chemo, but then they declared that everyone should shut up and get euthanized because that's what you think you want...it was creepy. Very creepy.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at June 30, 2010 03:51 PM (M9BNu)
Posted by: RayGunIsDead at June 30, 2010 07:47 PM (PkPsS)
Which is why an enlightened adult should kill himself instantly. Failing to do so is buying into the childishness of his unenlightened neighbors and proves that he is not only useless and worthless, but stupid and hypocritical as well.
Posted by: stuiec at June 30, 2010 03:51 PM (7AOgy)
Posted by: SarahW at June 30, 2010 03:52 PM (Z4T49)
You can get it at farmers markets with your food stamps. Only $5 for four ounces!
Posted by: Michelle O at June 30, 2010 03:52 PM (M9BNu)
After the amazing box office success of the movie 'UP,' now the sequel you've been waiting for is here. Andrew Sullivan stars in:
UP: MY ASS
Posted by: conscious, but incoherent at June 30, 2010 03:53 PM (YVZlY)
And so much better than Soylent red and yellow.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at June 30, 2010 03:54 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at June 30, 2010 03:54 PM (0q2P7)
Ok, a quick google search informs me that Trig, Sarah's son, was born in April of 2008. Tripp, Bristol's son, was born in December of 2008. So the only way Trig could be Bristol's is if Tripp was born at least a month if not two months prematurely, and yet somehow no one in the Palin hating mainstream media noticed.
Otherwise one would have to believe that somehow Bristol got pregnant with Tripp while she was still pregnant with Trig. Ok, now granted my biology is a bit rusty but I'm pretty sure that, unlike a green volkswagon beetle, is actually impossible.
And of course even given the notion that Tripp was premature and no one in the MSM noticed, that also assumes that the self serving weasel Levi Johnston who is the biological donor for Bristol's son Tripp would have been well aware that she was pregnant before Tripp was concieved because he an Bristol were dating at the time. So we must also then believes that Johnston, who has more or less try to make a career out leveling nasty accusations at the Palin family has full knowledge of this bombshell revelation and yet has never revealed it, prefering to smear the Palin's with bogus crap instead.
Umm.. ya, right. Sorry, but thats about the most laughable load of bullshit I've ever heard.
Posted by: StuckOnStupid at June 30, 2010 07:49 PM (G6FWP)
Posted by: mojo at June 30, 2010 08:01 PM (D6Uk6)
At some point, this is going to HAVE to become a legal matter, as Sully gets more and more irrational and starts trying to break into doctors' offices or follows Sarah around to her speeches and tries to get upskirt pics.
Please, "The Atlantic", for your own sake, fire this SOB.
Posted by: Merovign, Strong On His Mountain at June 30, 2010 09:14 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Topsecretk9 at June 30, 2010 09:43 PM (8x3SC)
I don't know about anybody else, but "luminiferous aether" scares the shit outta me.
Posted by: Adjoran at June 30, 2010 10:17 PM (VfmLu)
All are seen above.
Furthermore I am convinced that the senior editorial staff at The Atlantic know that something is going on with Andrew and deliberately refuse to deal with it because his ongoing train wreck drives readership up.
Pathetic.
Posted by: Quilly Mammoth at June 30, 2010 11:25 PM (qXaMd)
Didn't you know that Bristol has the only Ripley's Believe it or Not Uterus in the whole wide world? She can conceive children at different times and then birth one all the while the other baby remains perfectly in tack in her magical wonder womb. It's a feat like no other and only brave Andrew Sullivan has been able to sleuth it out.
Rotfl.. Three words I'd never have thought could be brought together in the same sentence.. Magical Wonder Womb.
Sounds like a Ronco product of some sort doesn't it? "Just set it, and FORGET IT!" lol..
Seriously, I went to this Sullivan guy's page just to do some quick research and boy, do I want those ten minutes back. What an imbecile.
Posted by: StuckOnStupid at July 01, 2010 04:06 AM (e8T35)
Part of Sullivan's problem is that he continues to believe, no matter how many times readers point it out to him, no matter what Palin's own doctor has said on the subject, that "leaking amniotic fluid" is the same thing as "water breaking."
They are not the same thing at all. You can leak amniotic fluid--through a pin-sized hole, for example, that can heal itself--at any time in a pregnancy. It happened to me with my first pregnancy. My doc said no big deal, rest more. It stopped after a few days, and my pregnancy continued for another six weeks.
This is the point where Sullivan has gotten stuck. He will not accept that there is such a difference. He continues to rail that Palin's "water broke"--that she was practically gushing fluid into her airplane seat. It's one of those hands-over-the-ears "nyah nyah I can't hear you" things.
Posted by: Average Jen at July 01, 2010 04:45 AM (fRnux)
I'm all for embracing men in whatever role they play in reproduction in general. That being said...the guy is a total freaking loony tune Fruit Loop if he thinks that he can wax poetic or knowledgably about childbirth issues, having no medical background and certainly no personal experience.
Trained as an RN, degree in nursing, two kids under my belt and and enough women's stories to choke a goat, the guy is FOS. You can leak tiny amounts of amniotic fluid as the previous poster said and then it can stop. You can rupture the amniotic membrane and gush like geyser. The latter is what this yahoo is thinking about, but it can be anywhere in between. Got a pocket of fluid and then there is heavy baby between the cervix and the rest of the fluid, if you're sans contractions and the cervix isn't fully dilated, you've now got a plug and you're not going to see the rest of that fluild until birth, even if the membrane is gone at that point. And just because you rupture, doens't mean that your uterus is doing the dance. It could be just sitting there going 'duh'.
Births are not textbook. They're more like snowflakes. And someone like Palin who has had experience in the same, is a far more reputable reporter, than some jackass male on a blog.
And women are definitely territorial when it comes to using their personal physician if at all possible. OH YES. They're created a personal relationship with that person based on trust. The last thing that they want to do if they can avoid it is to birth with some stranger in a strange facility. Imagine a solider crawling under barbed wire, with bullets flying over head with a knife in his teeth. THAT is the position that a woman will take if it will get her to her OWN doctor. Get on a plane for a couple of hours when you know how long labour actualy takes? Yep, I would do it in a heartbeat. Heck, with the first one, I went into labour, went out to lunch, came home and cleaned house, had dinner, went walking around the neighborhood for hours, and iddn't even go to get checked until dawn the next am, and still was ONE centimeter. I ended up with induced labour after that point. Had I been left to do it naturally, that could have taken days.
When it comes to bodies, they don't read the textbooks. And the textbooks don't give the full flavour of the bizarro world happenings in labour rooms. They give generalizations. Same for hosptial policies.
What is more important is a woman knowing what happens to HER when SHE is in labour. Stand two women side by side and they both have different birthing behavior. I listen to Palin talk and she's perfectly credible. And a woman knows if she's a toaster or a slow burner. Yup, sometimes babies just fall out, but I consider those women to be in the same tiny percentage of women who birth babies that sleep through the night at six weeks. There's about three of them on the planet at any given time and the odds are high that it's not going to be you.
This isn't Hollywood where a woman goes into labour, screams, and the husband runs around getting the car, where she births in minutes after arrival. Real life looks a lot different.
Posted by: JR at July 01, 2010 06:02 AM (ReqUq)
Between the troll thrashing and the reminiscing of Randi Andi's movie career, I've been quite entertained this morning.
I may have to collect the best of those movie titles and share them with my brother, who loves that kind of shit. When I clued him in about the whole "raw muscle glutes" thing, back when I first found this place, he nearly pissed himself laughing.
Morons are cool.
Posted by: Brian72 at July 01, 2010 06:08 AM (GNBk5)
They always seem to focus on the assertion that Sarah is not the mother, Bristol is.
None of them seem curious about who the father might be.
They don't seem to dispute that Todd Palin is the father of Trig, only that Sarah is not the mother.
They are implying by omission that Todd committed incestuous statutory rape on his own daughter, which is the most sickening thing about this whole debacle Andi is engaged in.
Is that what he believes?
If not, I don't think he's ever said so.
That is enough for an ass kicking in my book, although I wouldn't advise anyone to make Andi bleed anywhere near themselves, for obvious reasons.
Still, the implication is rather twisted and sickening.
Posted by: Brian72 at July 01, 2010 06:18 AM (GNBk5)
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