April 11, 2014

AoSHQ Podcast: Guest, Dana Perino
— andy

Dana Perino, co-host of Fox News' The Five and former Press Secretary for President George W. Bush, joins Ace, Gabe, Drew, John and me to discuss a wide range of topics like the #WarOnWomen, IRS scandal and press transparency, and also to poke a little fun at Greg Gutfeld. But mainly to poke a little fun at Greg Gutfeld.

And then it gets dark ...

You can watch the full Gutfeld Not Cool interview that Dana mentions here. It's excellent. And on behalf of the HQ, thank you very much for the mention Greg.


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1 First. And good ol' Hank.

Posted by: RWC at April 11, 2014 12:19 PM (fWAjv)

2 >>>??


is this on?

Posted by: Abdullah Abdullah at April 11, 2014 12:19 PM (JyjXt)

3 New?

Posted by: derangeddm at April 11, 2014 12:19 PM (9vpWU)

4 I really enjoyed the podcast this morning. After it ended, I only felt slightly depressed.

Posted by: no good deed at April 11, 2014 12:20 PM (ILBCY)

5 Dana Perino? Nope, nothing awkward will be said. Nothing.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 11, 2014 12:20 PM (oFCZn)

6 I've got the antenna hooked up but I still don't hear anything, Sadie.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 11, 2014 12:20 PM (JS0vr)

7 Between the 5 of you, not even one could come up with "States' Rights" as a collective right? What a bunch of damn RINOs! "States' Rights" is the answer to half of the constitutional issues that come up in the USA. Turn in your conservative cards immediately.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 11, 2014 12:21 PM (IN7k+)

8 Beep.

Posted by: Malaysian Air Flight 370 at April 11, 2014 12:21 PM (8ZskC)

9 So, was Dana Perino actually in the same room with you mopes, or was she smart and did this remotely?

Posted by: Chi-town Jerry at April 11, 2014 12:22 PM (Z7PrM)

10 Congrats on getting Perino for teh HordeCast. I almost feel bad about trying to get an angle on her undies during the Gutfeld interview Almost

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 11, 2014 12:22 PM (5noOE)

11 Dana Perino---omg --hopefully you guys put on pants.

Posted by: tasker at April 11, 2014 12:22 PM (RJMhd)

12 Great one this week

Posted by: game time decision at April 11, 2014 12:23 PM (WKKgC)

13 Will there be yummy hot cocoa for the podcast?

Posted by: Pajama Boy at April 11, 2014 12:23 PM (8ZskC)

14 For a blonde Dana is pretty hot!! Yeah I'......... Just this once just because

Posted by: Navycopjoe at April 11, 2014 12:24 PM (BW3wP)

15 Dana Perino...hitting the big time.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 11, 2014 12:24 PM (0LHZx)

16 How dare you wingnuts treat a sitting Attorney General in this disrespectful manner.

Posted by: Eric Holder at April 11, 2014 12:24 PM (8ZskC)

17 7 Between the 5 of you, not even one could come up with "States' Rights" as a collective right? What a bunch of damn RINOs! "States' Rights" is the answer to half of the constitutional issues that come up in the USA. Turn in your conservative cards immediately. Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 11, 2014 04:21 PM (IN7k+) *dances around in a circle* Raycisssss! Civil War Raycissss!

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 11, 2014 12:24 PM (oFCZn)

18 Raycisssss! Civil War Raycissss! Are you talking about the Northern War of Aggression?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 11, 2014 12:26 PM (8ZskC)

19 Posted by: Chi-town Jerry at April 11, 2014 04:22 PM (Z7PrM)

Or at least used a ten foot pole.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 11, 2014 12:26 PM (JS0vr)

20 Dana, you try to reign in the boys on The 5, but, that's just not happening.

You're good people.  The mom voice when addressing the Horde?  Won't work.  We're warriors, misfits, ne'er do wells.  We're married, we've heard it before.

Stay safe gremlin.

Posted by: tangonine at April 11, 2014 12:26 PM (x3YFz)

21 Are you talking about the Northern War of Aggression? Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 11, 2014 04:26 PM (8ZskC) *shifty eyes* Who me? NO! No, I'm not talking about any of that.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 11, 2014 12:26 PM (oFCZn)

22 Please ask Dana about the Nevada ranch stand off in which Harry Reid, his son the lawyer and the Chinese energy company want to put a 5 Billion dollar solar plant on.  Once they've taken the land away from Mr. Bundy, of course.  It's headline stuff on Drudge right now.

Posted by: DailyDish at April 11, 2014 12:27 PM (JEzFU)

23 Perino was a great "get". Excellent podcast.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 11, 2014 12:27 PM (IN7k+)

24 Dana Perino meatballin' at the HQ.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 11, 2014 12:27 PM (ZshNr)

25 Hey if Ms Perino is still around, she if she wants to hook up with a slightly used ex-sailor

Posted by: Navycopjoe at April 11, 2014 12:27 PM (BW3wP)

26 Posted by: Eric Holder at April 11, 2014 04:24 PM (8ZskC)

You mean the same one who dissed and dismissed the House last year?

The one who's been held in contempt?

Who can't seem to produce any documents when asked?

Who can't figure out who was in charge of Fast and Furious?

THAT Attorney General?

Fcuk you Mr. Holder. You should be in jail with all the other criminals.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 11, 2014 12:28 PM (JS0vr)

27 OK so I googled Dana Perino...and one the "other people searched for" it showed Kimberly Guilfoyle and on her bio it says... she was married to Gavin Newsom? WHAAAAAAAA?

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 11, 2014 12:28 PM (0LHZx)

28 The Avengers is back on TV, on an over-the-air channel. What happened to Diana Rigg?? I think we should, nay, need to discuss this.

Posted by: Soothsayer the Unstompable at April 11, 2014 12:28 PM (Ja56Y)

29 How did Diana Rigg turn into a prune...with a man's voice?

Posted by: Soothsayer the Unstompable at April 11, 2014 12:29 PM (Ja56Y)

30 "Hank Williams, Jr.-A Country Boy Can Survive"

That song feels pretty bitter in contemporary context -- of the million pound shithammer of federal doom being dropped on some country boys in Nevada right this very minute.

I figure the next thing we'll hear is that the government have decided to retain the A-10 attack jet after all. To use on stubborn rural ranchers who won't shut up and do as they're told.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 11, 2014 12:30 PM (noWW6)

31 Are you talking about the Northern War of Aggression? Posted by: Cicero -------------- Ye Gads! A chance to correct Cicero. A rare event indeed. 'The War of Northern Aggression"

Posted by: Dr. Doolittle at April 11, 2014 12:30 PM (aDwsi)

32 'The War of Northern Aggression" Posted by: Dr. Doolittle at April 11, 2014 04:30 PM (aDwsi) Who shot first? Â…. Yeah, that's what I thought.

Posted by: Sean Bannion [/i][/s][/u][/b] at April 11, 2014 12:32 PM (yz6yg)

33 I have this weird visual of them bouncing Dana Perino around like The Roxbury Guys skit from SNL.

Posted by: eleven at April 11, 2014 12:32 PM (fsLdt)

34

28 -

 

She got old.  She's got a part in the Game of Thrones  series.  Looks nothing like she did back in  the day, but I was wondering if maybe the oldified her even more than she really is. 

Posted by: BurtTC at April 11, 2014 12:32 PM (TOk1P)

35 Love Dana on the Five, this will be excellent! Now you have given me visions that one day the HQCast will host her and Greg Gutfeld at the same time, be still my heart...the banter would be epic.

Posted by: LizLem at April 11, 2014 12:32 PM (yRwC8)

36

What happened to Diana Rigg??

 

She's playing Katherine Hepburn on Game of Thrones.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at April 11, 2014 12:33 PM (JtwS4)

37 'The War of Northern Aggression" Posted by: Dr. Doolittle at April 11, 2014 04:30 PM (aDwsi) Who shot first? Yeah, that's what I thought. Posted by: Sean Bannion ----------------- As though firing a shot is necessary. Witness the current administration.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 11, 2014 12:34 PM (aDwsi)

38 What happened to Diana Rigg?? She's playing Katherine Hepburn on Game of Thrones. Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at April 11, 2014 04:33 PM (JtwS4) *snort*

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 11, 2014 12:34 PM (TIIx5)

39 Now you have given me visions that one day the HQCast will host her and Greg Gutfeld at the same time, be still my heart...the banter would be epic. Posted by: LizLem at April 11, 2014 04:32 PM (yRwC My fave is when Patti Anne Browne is on Red Eye She does the "naughty girl" to the hilt. Hilarious.

Posted by: Sean Bannion [/i][/s][/u][/b] at April 11, 2014 12:34 PM (yz6yg)

40 Maybe Perino will help get Gutfeld on the podcast. My pick for a get would be Dennis Miller though. I loved his comedy back in the day.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 11, 2014 12:34 PM (oFCZn)

41 So Reid and some "green energy" investors are behind the NV ranch shenanigans? I'm glad this is coming out now.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 11, 2014 12:35 PM (gzJJ2)

42 As though firing a shot is necessary. Witness the current administration. Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 11, 2014 04:34 PM (aDwsi) Well yes, there is that. I must ponder.

Posted by: Sean Bannion [/i][/s][/u][/b] at April 11, 2014 12:35 PM (yz6yg)

43 25 Hey if Ms Perino is still around, she if she wants to hook up with a slightly used ex-sailor Posted by: Navycopjoe at April 11, 2014 04:27 PM (BW3wP) ********** I see holes in your future....

Posted by: tasker at April 11, 2014 12:35 PM (RJMhd)

44 Obama has appointed new Sec. HHS

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 11, 2014 12:35 PM (aDwsi)

45 Can't listen to the podcast yet. Gotta wait to see what the rancher has to say.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 11, 2014 12:35 PM (ZshNr)

46 Is there any argument for why States shouldn't manage pretty much all Federal Lands? I'll exclude military bases and things like that. I mean the 85% of Nevada that is empty that the Feds own. Why shouldn't that just be given to Nevada to do as they see fit? Ideally I'd want it sold off to private owners. But at least let the States control their own land. Is the argument that the States don't actually want it, cause the don't want the maintenance costs? What are the maintenance costs anyway? Firefighting is a huge cost -- don't the states and municipalities pay those costs? Or do the Feds foot the bill?

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 11, 2014 12:35 PM (ZPrif)

47 Hey if Ms Perino is still around, she if she wants to hook up with a slightly used ex-sailor Posted by: Navycopjoe at April 11, 2014 04:27 PM (BW3wP) ********** I see holes in your future.... Posted by: tasker at April 11, 2014 04:35 PM (RJMhd) Head or chest?

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 11, 2014 12:36 PM (TIIx5)

48 If you come in here, you'll get nothing but holes!

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 11, 2014 12:36 PM (ZshNr)

49 >>>Please ask Dana about the Nevada ranch stand off in which Harry Reid, his son the lawyer and the Chinese energy company want to put a 5 Billion dollar solar plant on. Once they've taken the land away from Mr. Bundy, of course. It's headline stuff on Drudge right now.<<<



Hey, how'd I get from that fence post to this solar panel???

Posted by: "protected" turtle, even more confused than before at April 11, 2014 12:36 PM (08jH8)

50 44 Sylvia Mathews Burwell, the White House budget director.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 11, 2014 12:36 PM (aDwsi)

51

46 -

 

Most  of Nevada is used for the care and maintenance of the alien spacecraft fleet.

 

Everyone knows that. 

Posted by: BurtTC at April 11, 2014 12:37 PM (TOk1P)

52 I'll exclude military bases and things like that. I mean the 85% of Nevada that is empty that the Feds own. Why shouldn't that just be given to Nevada to do as they see fit? ************ Well The Department of Energy owns huge tracts of land--The Nevada Test Site. Nuclear baby.

Posted by: tasker at April 11, 2014 12:37 PM (RJMhd)

53 states cant tell the fed what to do. and once you give the land to the feds, for a park, a reserve, a reservation, they never give it back. They do give back unused military bases tho

Posted by: thunderb at April 11, 2014 12:37 PM (zOTsN)

54 Head or chest? Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 11, 2014 04:36 PM (TIIx5) Â….and what caliber? I bet she packs a Kimber Ultra Carry .45 ACP. Â…. At least that's what my fantasy tells me. And if it's wrong, I don't wanna be right.

Posted by: Sean Bannion [/i][/s][/u][/b] at April 11, 2014 12:37 PM (yz6yg)

55 The Northern War of Northern Aggression. BTW I saw this really bad movie called The Osterman Weekend yesterday and Meg Foster killed one guy with a longbow and another guy with a crossbow. Cause she's a badasss.

Posted by: eleven at April 11, 2014 12:37 PM (fsLdt)

56 What continues to shock me are the folks, particularly on twitter, who claim to be conservatives but always manage to find a way to defend the actions of the feds. They are all for states and local rights until it impacts them or their kids or their neighbors. They think it's just fine to run an entire industry out of business in "conservation" of a ckufing tortoise. Elimination of the minimum wage? Not if it impacts me or mine! I'm at the point where I no longer even see such arguments as worthy of the time I would expend on them.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 11, 2014 12:37 PM (DmNpO)

57 Also Yucca Mountain is where nuclear waste goes.

Posted by: tasker at April 11, 2014 12:38 PM (RJMhd)

58 At least Sylvia Burwell won't be a WH sycophant/puppet. No doubt she has years of experience with Housing and Health.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 11, 2014 12:38 PM (aDwsi)

59

*snort*

 

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 11, 2014 04:34 PM (TIIx5)

 

Thanks.  I wasn't sure anyone would get that.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at April 11, 2014 12:38 PM (JtwS4)

60 On this rancher standoff with the BLM in Nevada, I just can't get on the rancher's side. What gives him the right to graze his cattle on public land for free? Fuck that old bastard. I've seen ranchers like him put up fences on public land and keep out signs all over the place. Fuck them. I won't side with the BLM because I expect they are corrupt, like everyone else in the Zero administration. So I guess I to hell with them all.

Posted by: maddogg at April 11, 2014 12:38 PM (xWW96)

61 Utah--St. George got much of the fall out.

Posted by: tasker at April 11, 2014 12:39 PM (RJMhd)

62 did you know? Ginger turned 80 two months ago.

Posted by: Soothsayer the Unstompable at April 11, 2014 12:39 PM (Ja56Y)

63 Everyone knows that.

That's what we want you to think.

Posted by: Zklpxk at April 11, 2014 12:39 PM (ZKzrr)

64 Dana Perino---omg --hopefully you guys put on pants. *** Ace assures us that he was wearing a complete tux for this one.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 11, 2014 12:39 PM (DmNpO)

65 I'm at the point where I no longer even see such arguments as worthy of the time I would expend on them. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 11, 2014 04:37 PM (DmNpO) Welcome. I've been there for 2 years now. You can only have an argument with someone who will admit the existence of easily observable and verifiable facts. That pretty much leaves out 70% of the current American electorate.

Posted by: Sean Bannion [/i][/s][/u][/b] at April 11, 2014 12:39 PM (yz6yg)

66 Open thread in the comments. Heh. All threads are open.

Posted by: The NSA at April 11, 2014 12:39 PM (FcR7P)

67
So I guess the feds and harry reid want to lease the rancher graze land to some chinese solar firm, well isn't that special?

and typical.  and the real reason.



oh...and Dana Perino....yes, yes I would.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 11, 2014 12:40 PM (hUf/y)

68 I assume at some point in the past someone covered what's up with the random system sound effects? Bing! Bong! Y'all are getting better at normalizing the sound. Also - "The brother I never wanted, Greg Gutfled." Heh.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at April 11, 2014 12:40 PM (qyfb5)

69 The rancher, as many have pointed out up thread- seems to be playing a long game. The focus should be on the Recent/Current tactics of the BLM.... Hannity seems to be taking him there, which is good.

Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at April 11, 2014 12:40 PM (WDySP)

70 Ask PeRINO is Karl Rove dresses to the right or the left?

Posted by: Beyond Disgusted at April 11, 2014 12:40 PM (thLL8)

71 64 Dana Perino---omg --hopefully you guys put on pants. *** Ace assures us that he was wearing a complete tux for this one. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 11, 2014 04:39 PM (DmNpO) ************ Phew.

Posted by: tasker at April 11, 2014 12:41 PM (RJMhd)

72 Hannity calling for the Republican Governor to get involved. Another wimp shit no doubt.

Posted by: Beyond Disgusted at April 11, 2014 12:41 PM (thLL8)

73 Wow, it really is Dana Perino. It's kinda weird when you get actual TV people on. They are more real than just people who write on various right-wing interweb face pages.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 11, 2014 12:41 PM (ZPrif)

74 The rancher, as many have pointed out up thread- seems to be playing a long game. The focus should be on the Recent/Current tactics of the BLM.... *** He's arguing BIG PICTURE when he really needs to be focused on the immediate issues.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 11, 2014 12:41 PM (DmNpO)

75 "The Federal Court is moot to me."

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 11, 2014 12:42 PM (ZshNr)

76 I don't know if anyone else remembers this, but it was the subject of one of those 20/20 types of shows years ago, and it stuck with me. It took a while to find the article, but here it is. This is not a joke. http://bit.ly/1iCqH3V

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 11, 2014 12:43 PM (DmNpO)

77 I've only listened to a couple of these. This was not as good as the others I listened to.. Perino talked over the Ewok a lot. The part where she completely missed Ewok's joke about "martinizing" was awkwardly hilarious.

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at April 11, 2014 12:43 PM (XvrTA)

78 The feds set the dogs on a pregnant woman and tazed his son. Nice.

Posted by: Beyond Disgusted at April 11, 2014 12:43 PM (thLL8)

79 Good grief, people ;^). Diana Rigg is 75 years old. If you expect her to look like she did in the 60's go enjoy her in "The Avengers" and don't expect her to look that now if she's appearing in Game of Thrones. Clint Eastwood doesn't look like he did in his 30's either.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 11, 2014 12:44 PM (XyM/Y)

80

56 -

 

We had a school board election this week.  Candidates  were very clearly of one stripe or the other, with one who  was a bit of a wild card because she has no real record.  Five candidates, three slots.

 

They elected the two "lets spend shedloads of money on all the crep we can" candidates, and the dingbat broad with no  record.

 

Kicked off the guy who was  on the board, and was trying to keep  some semblance of fiscal responsibility going. 

 

And this is an area that essentially NEVER  runs Democrats, because they never win. 

 

People are stupid. 

Posted by: BurtTC at April 11, 2014 12:44 PM (TOk1P)

81 As I understand it, they aren't actually trying to put the solar panels on the same land. However (and this is from InfoWars, so truckload of salt) the permit for the solar farm (elsewhere) is using this site as a remediation trade-off (like they do with wetlands I guess?). So, if true- the existence of the cows still breaks the deal for the solar farm, I guess this is just a nuance.

Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at April 11, 2014 12:44 PM (WDySP)

82 The feds set the dogs on a pregnant woman and tazed his son. Nice. *** They arrested his son for taking photos. They apparently slammed him face-first into the gravel and bruised him up pretty badly.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 11, 2014 12:45 PM (DmNpO)

83 Almost feel sad for the old man. Almost. HotAir.com ‏@hotairblog Video: Mentally ill man canÂ’t stop talking about the monsters under his bed http://hotair.com/?p=304276

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 11, 2014 12:45 PM (ZPrif)

84 54. Very close It's a pro carry and yeah, it's never good to taunt the T She angers like a Sicilian/Spaniard

Posted by: Navycopjoe at April 11, 2014 12:45 PM (g2ruq)

85 The feds set the dogs on a pregnant woman and tazed his son. Nice. Posted by: Beyond Disgusted at April 11, 2014 04:43 PM (thLL I was aiming for the preggo.

Posted by: Fed BLM Goon at April 11, 2014 12:45 PM (TIIx5)

86 Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 11, 2014 04:35 PM (ZPrif) Gov. Gary R. Herbert of Utah, a Republican, signed into law House Bill 148. It asks the federal government, which owns a majority of the land in the state, to give back more than 20 million acres. A similar measure, passed by the Arizona Senate last month, is awaiting further action in the Capitol in Phoenix. Bills patterned after Utah’s are being prepared for filing next year in Colorado, Idaho, Montana and New Mexico, lawmakers involved in the effort said. Utah is also preparing lawsuits, for filing as early as next month, to reclaim thousands of sections of road that cross federal lands but that the state argues should properly be the province of the states and counties. ...The federal government, Mr. Ivory and other proponents said, reneged on Congressional promises going back to the 1800s, which held that Washington’s control of tens of millions of acres in the West in national forests, rangelands and parks was only temporary. That pledge, they say, was written into contractual obligations in the founding documents of many states, and was followed through in some places but not others. The Midwest and Plains states, for example, are now almost entirely private lands, but hop a meridian or two west and the picture changes completely. ...“If you look at a map of the United States, all the states in the East are private land,” said Al Melvin, a Republican state senator who sponsored the bill in Arizona, where the federal government owns 48 percent of the land. “That’s why many of them are doing so well — it’s private land in Texas and North Dakota where they’re drilling for oil and fracking for gas,” he added. “The 50 states are separate but not equal.” http://preview.tinyurl.com/p8q35vq

Posted by: LizLem at April 11, 2014 12:46 PM (yRwC8)

87 Diana Rigg went from being hot to a prune overnight. Linda Evans kinda had the same problem. She looked great -- and then on Dynasty she looked...rough.

Posted by: Soothsayer the Unstompable at April 11, 2014 12:46 PM (Ja56Y)

88 Almost feel sad for the old man. Almost. HotAir.com ‏@hotairblog Video: Mentally ill man canÂ’t stop talking about the monsters under his bed http://hotair.com/?p=304276 *** the page setup was brilliant. It was only after reading the first two paragraphs that I scrolled down to see who they were writing about.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 11, 2014 12:47 PM (DmNpO)

89 On this rancher standoff with the BLM in Nevada, I just can't get on the rancher's side. What gives him the right to graze his cattle on public land for free? Fuck that old bastard. I've seen ranchers like him put up fences on public land and keep out signs all over the place. Fuck them. I won't side with the BLM because I expect they are corrupt, like everyone else in the Zero administration. So I guess I to hell with them all.

+1. He admits to a minimum of $300k owed in grazing fees going back years. He's just another freeloader sucking on the public teat. Both sides of this one deserve to lose.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at April 11, 2014 12:48 PM (+lsX1)

90 The feds set the dogs on a pregnant woman and tazed his son. Nice. I saw the video He begged for it and they hooked him up

Posted by: Navycopjoe at April 11, 2014 12:48 PM (g2ruq)

91 Speaking of #WarOnWomen ... Harry Reid blocks Republican request to pass bill cracking down on rapists http://tinyurl.com/kgrwy2q

Posted by: kbdabear at April 11, 2014 12:48 PM (aTXUx)

92 >>They arrested his son for taking photos. They apparently slammed him face-first into the gravel and bruised him up pretty badly. Yeah, but was he in a designated BLM Free Speech Zone /sarc

Posted by: Lizzy at April 11, 2014 12:48 PM (gzJJ2)

93 Yeah, but was he in a designated BLM Free Speech Zone /sarc Posted by: Lizzy at April 11, 2014 04:48 PM (gzJJ2) 1st Amendment Ghetto

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 11, 2014 12:49 PM (TIIx5)

94 Perino, other than looks, a big "meh".

A real shame that Tony Snow is no longer here.

Posted by: Hate Miser at April 11, 2014 12:49 PM (08jH8)

95 Head or chest? Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 11, 2014 04:36 PM (TIIx5) ******** Butt cheek.

Posted by: tasker at April 11, 2014 12:49 PM (RJMhd)

96 Posted by: LizLem at April 11, 2014 04:46 PM (yRwC *** ATC pointed out in the last thread that folks in Utah are now clearing their land just to avoid being labeled a habitat for a particular breed of woodpecker. This is insanity.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 11, 2014 12:49 PM (DmNpO)

97 He begged for it and they hooked him up. Yeah ok comrade.

Posted by: Beyond Disgusted at April 11, 2014 12:49 PM (thLL8)

98 95. Butt cheek? My skinny ass? No target (damn I need to work out)

Posted by: Navycopjoe at April 11, 2014 12:50 PM (g2ruq)

99 He begged for it and they hooked him up. *** I don't think the guy in that video is his son. I think it's another protester. I could be wrong.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 11, 2014 12:52 PM (DmNpO)

100 I imagine DP will scan this thread and say WTF?

Posted by: Soothsayer the Unstompable at April 11, 2014 12:53 PM (Ja56Y)

101 97. Comrade my ass When the popo says repeatly to back up or you'll be tased and they are pointing a taser at you... Well fucking duh, don't piss and moan when your ass is doing the 50K jig on the ground

Posted by: Navycopjoe at April 11, 2014 12:53 PM (g2ruq)

102 I do feel an odd reluctance not to curse on this thread on account of Perino being the guest.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 11, 2014 12:54 PM (ZPrif)

103 I want to thank Secretary Serberous for her outstanding job for establishing the best health care systems in the world. Thank You we will all miss you and Presdent Obama too.

Posted by: Dorcus Blimeline at April 11, 2014 12:54 PM (iB0Q2)

104 No video? Lame.

Posted by: Perfect Proportions at April 11, 2014 12:55 PM (wu/TK)

105 Is Tasing a protester really much different than hitting them with a billy club? I know there are differences, but imagine the images if this was pre-Taser.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 11, 2014 12:55 PM (ZshNr)

106 Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 11, 2014 04:49 PM (DmNpO) I know, I saw that, insane indeed! Nothing creates more waste and needless trouble for the average American than the federal government, nothing.

Posted by: LizLem at April 11, 2014 12:55 PM (yRwC8)

107 hackaday.com has an article on the "linothorax" armor that Alexander the Great used. Glued layers of lightweight linen that are actually real good protection against arrows. No word on how they stood up to crossbows... http://tinyurl.com/kph3rxw

Posted by: t-bird at April 11, 2014 12:55 PM (FcR7P)

108 112. Oops I forgot Dana was here!!!! At least my pants are on (since I'm watching grade schoolers play softball and that keeps HPD away)

Posted by: Navycopjoe at April 11, 2014 12:55 PM (g2ruq)

109 Thank You we will all miss you and Presdent Obama too. Posted by: Dorcus Blimeline at April 11, 2014 04:54 PM (iB0Q2) You know, it's illegal to make assassination threats.

Posted by: Sean Bannion [/i][/s][/u][/b] at April 11, 2014 12:56 PM (yz6yg)

110 Gutfeld is such a faux-irreverent lame, all the easiest "un-PC" notes, and y'all wonder whyaretherenoconservativecomedians???

Posted by: JN at April 11, 2014 12:56 PM (R0g4C)

111 108 112. Oops I forgot Dana was here!!!! You see into the future now? Tell me, then, how did the Cubs do this season?? hahahahahahaha!

Posted by: Soothsayer the Unstompable at April 11, 2014 12:57 PM (Ja56Y)

112 >>I want to thank Secretary Serberous for her outstanding job for establishing the best health care systems in the world. Health Insurance, Dorcus sock, dear. And she's destroyed it.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 11, 2014 12:57 PM (gzJJ2)

113 105. Is Tasing a protester really much different than hitting them with a billy club? If I may since I have experienced both? The taser hurts more but after a few minutes you're feeling like nothing happened A baton you will feel for a while Plus the baton looks much more violent

Posted by: Navycopjoe at April 11, 2014 12:58 PM (g2ruq)

114 Glued layers of lightweight linen that are actually real good protection against arrows. No word on how they stood up to crossbows... Posted by: t-bird at April 11, 2014 04:55 PM (FcR7P) fnord (FcR7P) I read an article years ago trying to suss out whether Wyatt Earp had pioneered use of the ballistic vest in law enforcement. It was based on circumstantial evidence like always wearing silk vests (possibly many) under a heavy coat, no matter the heat, always being described as heavier than he actually was, and a few cases he was supposed to have been centered by shots and walked away uninjured. The article did not come to a definite conclusion.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at April 11, 2014 12:58 PM (qyfb5)

115 Pants on... no swearing...

Aren't we really the victims here?

Posted by: Hate Miser at April 11, 2014 12:59 PM (08jH8)

116 111. Yeah I blame the iPhone keyboard The cubbies? Magic 8ball says 'HAHA'

Posted by: Navycopjoe at April 11, 2014 12:59 PM (g2ruq)

117 My brother tried to make me let him use a Teaser on me when he was a UMass cop. Even at the tender age of 19 I knew enough to tell him to fuck off.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 11, 2014 01:00 PM (ZshNr)

118 Gutfeld is such a faux-irreverent lame, all the easiest "un-PC" notes, and y'all wonder whyaretherenoconservativecomedians???

Posted by: JN

I'd ask you to repeat that in English but I'm sure it's not worth it.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i][/b] at April 11, 2014 01:01 PM (5mtBD)

119 Taser! This auto-correct is a frizz-eak.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 11, 2014 01:01 PM (ZshNr)

120 77 I've only listened to a couple of these. This was not as good as the others I listened to.. Perino talked over the Ewok a lot. The part where she completely missed Ewok's joke about "martinizing" was awkwardly hilarious.

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at April 11, 2014 04:43 PM (XvrTA)

++++

That's happens a lot in these audio only conversations. The participants can't see each other, so they miss those visual cues about when someone else is trying to talk. It's just a shortcoming of the medium.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 11, 2014 01:01 PM (IN7k+)

121 Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 11, 2014 04:58 PM (qyfb5) Mythbusters time!!! Though I have not watched that show in ages.

Posted by: LizLem at April 11, 2014 01:01 PM (yRwC8)

122 Perino made a point I used to make all the time, and have kind of given up on because no one cared. What changed was when the left took over Congress. It wasn't wine and roses before that, but things went rapidly to shit after that. The embedding of saboteurs in the bureaucracy started long ago but it accelerated then.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at April 11, 2014 01:02 PM (qyfb5)

123

118 -

 

Heh, I was about  to say the exact same thing. 

Posted by: BurtTC at April 11, 2014 01:03 PM (TOk1P)

124 Teaser? ***** Kinky.

Posted by: tasker at April 11, 2014 01:03 PM (RJMhd)

125

Blah blah blah. I want to know how the US Navy is making custom vaginas out of seawater. I always have enjoyed a nice Italian one with a green salad and a Chianti.

Posted by: dr kill at April 11, 2014 01:03 PM (mcQuu)

126 I'll say  the same thing I said yesterday about Mr. Gutfeld.  If you don't like his humor, that's fine.  You have that  right, but if you think his  humor is lame it's because you don't understand it. 

Posted by: BurtTC at April 11, 2014 01:05 PM (TOk1P)

127 Mythbusters time!!! Though I have not watched that show in ages. Posted by: LizLem at April 11, 2014 05:01 PM (yRwC fnord (yRwC They should completely hire someone that knows something about science. That would make the show better.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at April 11, 2014 01:05 PM (qyfb5)

128 Question: When should you and should you not frame your diploma?

Posted by: Soothsayer the Unstompable at April 11, 2014 01:06 PM (Ja56Y)

129 I'll say the same thing I said yesterday about Mr. Gutfeld. If you don't like his humor, that's fine. You have that right, but if you think his humor is lame it's because you don't understand it. ** I bet he wouldn't find Norm MacDonald's roast of Saget funny either.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 11, 2014 01:06 PM (DmNpO)

130 Question: When should you and should you not frame your diploma? *** When you aren't proud of it.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 11, 2014 01:06 PM (DmNpO)

131

They should hire that guy what makes vaginas out of seawater. Hell, I should hire him.

 

Posted by: dr kill at April 11, 2014 01:06 PM (mcQuu)

132 frame your diploma

Is that a euphemism?

Posted by: HR at April 11, 2014 01:07 PM (ZKzrr)

133 When you ARE and aren't proud of it.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 11, 2014 01:07 PM (DmNpO)

134

The fed needs to give back the land.  It would preclude a lot of bullshit like NV  if they did.

 

I think  the fed reaction to the  NV rancher is just another  push to get us to fire the first shot.

Posted by: Soona at April 11, 2014 01:07 PM (Apfwx)

135 Wife is going to Nevada to support Bundy tomorrow. Watch for her on the news. Older { she;s going to kill me ] blonde with a rack. She's like a biting sow when she gets going.

Posted by: sourdough at April 11, 2014 01:07 PM (d1QaV)

136 My wife has her degrees framed and hung in her study. I always thought they should be in her office, but I guess she doesn't.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 11, 2014 01:08 PM (ZshNr)

137 So it's never tacky to do so?

Posted by: Soothsayer the Unstompable at April 11, 2014 01:08 PM (Ja56Y)

138 I've never framed a diploma.  Have a BA and an MBA and I can't see why either would go on a wall, but that's personal preference and not a prescription.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at April 11, 2014 01:08 PM (JtwS4)

139 When should you and should you not frame your diploma? Are you trying to bait Moo Moo VanVoorhees into this?

Posted by: eleven at April 11, 2014 01:08 PM (fsLdt)

140 I'm sitting on my ass making excuses for not cleaning and organizing my dressing room when I look out and see my neighbor and his one-legged friend digging a trench. #ShameSpiral

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 11, 2014 01:09 PM (DmNpO)

141 Please ask Dana about the Nevada ranch stand off in which Harry Reid, his son the lawyer and the Chinese energy company want to put a 5 Billion dollar solar plant on. Once they've taken the land away from Mr. Bundy, of course. It's headline stuff on Drudge right now.<<< Posted by: "protected" turtle, even more confused than before at April 11, 2014 04:36 PM (08jH ----------------------------------- Harry Reid fronting for a CHINESE energy company? And probably in line to make a few $billion. And isn't Leland Yee Chinese? That's good enough for me! I say THROW ALL OF THESE SONS OF BITCHES IN PRISON

Posted by: alwyr at April 11, 2014 01:09 PM (V0j3u)

142 I Ave two kings framed and hanging by my desk. Both newspaper articles I appeared him. My diplomas are buried in a junk box somewhere I assume.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 11, 2014 01:10 PM (ZshNr)

143 So it's never tacky to do so? **** Nearly every office at my former employer had diplomas on the wall. When I get one of my own I will hang it proudly.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 11, 2014 01:10 PM (DmNpO)

144 Make that diploma, not plural.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 11, 2014 01:10 PM (ZshNr)

145 Are you trying to bait Moo Moo VanVoorhees into this? Posted by: eleven at April 11, 2014 05:08 PM (fsLdt) He frames all of his tax payment checks.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 11, 2014 01:10 PM (oFCZn)

146 Dana Perino.   Could you please tell her I'm not stalking her.     Its just   intensive  observation. 

Posted by: polynikes at April 11, 2014 01:11 PM (m2CN7)

147 Wow, what did auto correct do to me?

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 11, 2014 01:11 PM (ZshNr)

148

Your Siri has been drinking, sir.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at April 11, 2014 01:12 PM (JtwS4)

149 Those fancy frames from my doctors' offices look nice in my house, and they handily beat overflowing bookcases for ostentation purposes.

Posted by: Doctored at April 11, 2014 01:13 PM (wu/TK)

150 Here, hold my beer.

Posted by: A One-Legged Man Getting Ready to Swing A Pickaxe at April 11, 2014 01:13 PM (8ZskC)

151 Wow, what did auto correct do to me?

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 11, 2014 05:11 PM (ZshNr)

 

yeah autocorrect,  that's the ticket. 

Posted by: polynikes at April 11, 2014 01:13 PM (m2CN7)

152 If you REALLY love the person you're stalking, is it stalking-stalking?

Posted by: eleven at April 11, 2014 01:13 PM (fsLdt)

153 You really think I have two kings hanging by my desk?

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 11, 2014 01:14 PM (ZshNr)

154 I thought "kings" was a euphemism for something..

Posted by: Soothsayer the Unstompable at April 11, 2014 01:15 PM (Ja56Y)

155 "When the popo says repeatly to back up or you'll be tased and they are pointing a taser at you... Well fucking duh, don't piss and moan when your ass is doing the 50K jig on the ground"

If someone is in a place where they have a legal right to be, and are not breaking the law, and not posing a threat, they shouldn't be hearing any such "back up or else force" orders from anyone in law enforcement. Not without a large cash settlement later.

Over the years, I have seen a few rogue police issue nonsensical commands with no actual justification and then hammer people for "failing to follow the orders of a police officer". That business needs to be more tightly overseen.

There are some circumstances where police are wholly justified in issuing orders. Not all circumstances. There must be reasonable grounds and accountability.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 11, 2014 01:15 PM (noWW6)

156 Things.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 11, 2014 01:15 PM (ZshNr)

157 Dana's a cutie. Was Jasper mentioned? How many times? I will listen this weekend. That book better make #1 everywhere. It's been marketed enough. Greg looks so worn out from book touring, haha.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 11, 2014 01:15 PM (IXrOn)

158 the existence of the cows still breaks the deal for the solar farm, I guess this is just a nuance.

Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at April 11, 2014 04:44 PM (WDySP)


I don't see the problem.  Burger King should be very interested. 

Posted by: pep at April 11, 2014 01:16 PM (4nR9/)

159 152 If you REALLY love the person you're stalking, is it stalking-stalking?

Posted by: eleven at April 11, 2014 05:13 PM (fsLdt)

++++

If she finds you attractive, you will have a sweet, amusing story to tell your grandkids. If she thinks you're a creep, you'll have a story for your cellmate.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 11, 2014 01:16 PM (IN7k+)

160

If you really love the person it's not stalking.  You're facilitating their understanding of your love for them, and their reciprocal love which they will then recognize in themselves.

 

It's all fair, really, until you need duct tape.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at April 11, 2014 01:16 PM (JtwS4)

161 My screen (tablet) goes black while I'm posting sometimes, I don't know why. Anyway, I'm out of the habit of double-checking, gonna have to start paying attention.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 11, 2014 01:16 PM (ZshNr)

162 Try to get Ann Althouse on next time. hahahaha, just kidding!

Posted by: Soothsayer the Unstompable at April 11, 2014 01:16 PM (Ja56Y)

163 overflowing bookcases for ostentation purposes.

If that's why your bookcases are overflowing, ur doin it rong.

Posted by: HR at April 11, 2014 01:17 PM (ZKzrr)

164 You really think I have two kings hanging by my desk? Lemme guess. Henry VII and Frederick V.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 11, 2014 01:17 PM (8ZskC)

165 Howie Carr read Michelle Malkin's piece on obama's deadbeat Auntie Zetuni today. It was excellent!

Posted by: Soothsayer the Unstompable at April 11, 2014 01:17 PM (Ja56Y)

166 144 Make that diploma, not plural. Posted by: Lincolntf

Okay, when is it appropriate to hang your diplomae. 

Posted by: pep at April 11, 2014 01:17 PM (4nR9/)

167 Are you trying to bait Moo Moo VanVoorhees into this? Posted by: eleven at April 11, 2014 05:08 PM (fsLdt) __________ Yes my diplomas are framed. Had I gone to no name, never heard of it U....doubt I'd care enough to frame it.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 11, 2014 01:17 PM (0LHZx)

168 B.B. and Carole.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 11, 2014 01:18 PM (ZshNr)

169 My Cornell diploma has a picture of a cow.

Posted by: Keef Olbermann at April 11, 2014 01:18 PM (8ZskC)

170

Had I gone to no name, never heard of it U....doubt I'd care enough to frame it.

 

That wasn't even sarc, was it?

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at April 11, 2014 01:18 PM (JtwS4)

171 Yes my diplomas are framed. Had I gone to no name, never heard of it U....doubt I'd care enough to frame it.

How much do diplomas from Nashville Diesel College run now?

Posted by: pep at April 11, 2014 01:19 PM (4nR9/)

172 One-hundred thirty. That's the number of teachers across America who have been arrested for sexual misconduct with a student since January 1. It's more than one teacher for each day of the year so far.

Enough is enough.

It is time for the Senate to pass my bipartisan Protecting Students from Sexual and Violent Predators Act and crack down on those who prey on children.

As the father of three young children, I cannot imagine the pain of a parent whose child has been sexually abused. As your U.S. senator, I am dedicated to strengthening laws to better protect kids - in Pennsylvania and across our country.

The House of Representatives passed this legislation unanimously. It's time for the Senate to do the same.

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at April 11, 2014 01:20 PM (e8kgV)

173

153 -

 

I don't have two kings hanging, but I do have their balz. 

Posted by: Marjorie Tyrell at April 11, 2014 01:20 PM (TOk1P)

174 Dana Perino, on The Five, is now speaking to the Bundy ranch issue. Her take: He owes the grazing fees, but that this is proof that central planning does not work and that if we are going to have a viable cattle industry, there must be some place to raise them. Bob Beckel agrees and sees a potential for a Waco or Ruby Ridge scenario here.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 11, 2014 01:20 PM (DmNpO)

175 I will never understand why the Daily Mail is the best site for US news BUT also a cesspool of celeb gossip and paparazzi pics. Kinda schizophrenic. But, they DID post new Kate Upton pap pics. Though who she is with in the first ones might make some of the Morons cry. Preview so you know I am not London Boys/spiderbeclowning you: http://preview.tinyurl.com/qhsq7qq

Posted by: LizLem at April 11, 2014 01:20 PM (yRwC8)

176 It is time for the Senate to pass my bipartisan Protecting Students from Sexual and Violent Predators Act and crack down on those who prey on children.

You're forgetting the Protecting Students from Harry Reid Act. 

Posted by: pep at April 11, 2014 01:21 PM (4nR9/)

177

89...He admits to a minimum of $300k owed in grazing fees going back years. He's just another freeloader sucking on the public teat. Both sides of this one deserve to lose.
 

 

-------------

 

Apparently, Bundy stopped paying his grazing fees when they relocated the 'protected turtle zone' over to the property his family had had grazing rights on for over a century.

 

The Feds moved the 'protected turtle zone' from some land that developers wanted to use.

 

They revoked his grazing rights...over a turtle.

 

Barky gave windfarms a 30 year waiver for slaughtering Bald Eagles.

And now his BLM goons are using thug tactics over turtle.

 

 

Posted by: wheatie at April 11, 2014 01:21 PM (FWbLS)

178 That wasn't even sarc, was it? *** Not even a little bit.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 11, 2014 01:21 PM (DmNpO)

179 Dana Perino crosses most of you jackwagons off her potential list anyway with all your  Bush  hate  and  all.    So back the hell off my woman.

Posted by: polynikes at April 11, 2014 01:21 PM (m2CN7)

180 I know all about diplomatic framing.

Posted by: Amb. Chris Stevens at April 11, 2014 01:21 PM (wu/TK)

181 Had I gone to no name, never heard of it U....doubt I'd care enough to frame it.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 11, 2014 05:17 PM (0LHZx)

This is a "no-win" comment.

You are either proof positive that elite colleges and universities produce idiots, or you are a bullshitter.

Nicely done!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 11, 2014 01:22 PM (QFxY5)

182 Dana Perino? Wow.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 11, 2014 01:22 PM (9W+0f)

183 That's a helluva lotta money for grazing fees.

Posted by: Soothsayer the Unstompable at April 11, 2014 01:22 PM (Ja56Y)

184 #MoarWomen

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 11, 2014 01:22 PM (9W+0f)

185 Her take: He owes the grazing fees, but that this is proof that central planning does not work and that if we are going to have a viable cattle industry, there must be some place to raise them.

Why?  It is not the government's role to ensure that a rancher with a poorly thought out business plan is protected from his folly. 

Posted by: pep at April 11, 2014 01:22 PM (4nR9/)

186 WhoAreMoreInterestingThanCAC

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 11, 2014 01:22 PM (9W+0f)

187 How much of those fees include fines for non payment?

Posted by: Soothsayer the Unstompable at April 11, 2014 01:23 PM (Ja56Y)

188 Hey, Anna, are you around? :-P

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 11, 2014 01:23 PM (9W+0f)

189

Posted by: wheatie at April 11, 2014 05:21 PM (FWbLS)

 

Has he tried to take this to court at any time?  Just curious. 

Posted by: polynikes at April 11, 2014 01:23 PM (m2CN7)

190 Why? It is not the government's role to ensure that a rancher with a poorly thought out business plan is protected from his folly. *** Surely you are fucking with me. His "business plan" dates back 130+ years

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 11, 2014 01:23 PM (DmNpO)

191 I'll say the same thing I said yesterday about Mr. Gutfeld. If you don't like his humor, that's fine. You have that right, but if you think his humor is lame it's because you don't understand it. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 11, 2014 05:06 PM (DmNpO) ---------------------------- I didn't understand your comment when you posted it yesterday, and I (still) don't understand it when you (bothered) to re-post it today

Posted by: alwyr at April 11, 2014 01:25 PM (V0j3u)

192 Watch a Western. Cattle move, feed, move, feed, move, feed, until someday they become steak tips. The Feds are deliberately making it impossible to effectively/profitably own cattle.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 11, 2014 01:25 PM (ZshNr)

193

189...Has he tried to take this to court at any time? Just curious.

 

Oh yeah...he's been fighting it in court for over a decade.

 

 

Posted by: wheatie at April 11, 2014 01:25 PM (FWbLS)

194 Surely you are f*****g with me.

His "business plan" dates back 130+ years

Not at all.  If his business plan is predicated on the assumption of continued access to public land, that's not my concern.  I'll admit I haven't followed this closely, so please explain why he has a right to land I own. 

Posted by: pep at April 11, 2014 01:26 PM (4nR9/)

195 When should you and should you not frame your diploma?

Depends on the charges and if you think anyone will believe the diploma did it.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at April 11, 2014 01:26 PM (4WhSY)

196

191 -

 

I'll be glad to explain it.  What is it you don't understand? 

Posted by: BurtTC at April 11, 2014 01:26 PM (TOk1P)

197 I didn't understand your comment when you posted it yesterday, and I (still) don't understand it when you (bothered) to re-post it today *** I suggest you go back and read the comments thread, sparky.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 11, 2014 01:26 PM (DmNpO)

198 Random link.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merlin_German

Posted by: HR at April 11, 2014 01:26 PM (ZKzrr)

199 So "you" own it, but he doesn't?

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 11, 2014 01:27 PM (ZshNr)

200 Another pro-fed "conservative" rears his head.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 11, 2014 01:27 PM (DmNpO)

201 Surely you are fucking with me. His "business plan" dates back 130+ years Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 11, 2014 05:23 PM (DmNpO) You need to ask yourself why his neighbor's ranches aren't surrounded by Feds right now.

Posted by: Sean Bannion [/i][/s][/u][/b] at April 11, 2014 01:27 PM (yz6yg)

202 199 So "you" own it, but he doesn't? Posted by: Lincolntf

Correct.  As long as the profits of his business are his and his alone, he has not right to the land.  When he socializes the profits, we'll talk.

Posted by: pep at April 11, 2014 01:28 PM (4nR9/)

203 Another pro-fed "conservative" rears his head. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse

Come on, you're better than that.

Posted by: pep at April 11, 2014 01:28 PM (4nR9/)

204 The Feds are deliberately making it impossible to effectively/profitably own cattle. Posted by: Lincolntf at April 11, 2014 05:25 PM (ZshNr) THIS. That's the issue. Why the FUCK does the Federal gov't own all that land?

Posted by: Sean Bannion [/i][/s][/u][/b] at April 11, 2014 01:28 PM (yz6yg)

205 "192 Watch a Western. Cattle move, feed, move, feed, move, feed, until someday they become steak tips. The Feds are deliberately making it impossible to effectively/profitably own cattle. Posted by: Lincolntf at April 11, 2014 05:25 PM (ZshNr)" Progressives hate kulaks.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 11, 2014 01:29 PM (9W+0f)

206 You need to ask yourself why his neighbor's ranches aren't surrounded by Feds right now. *** because every single one has been run out of business. He is the very last there.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 11, 2014 01:30 PM (DmNpO)

207 Random link. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merlin_German Posted by: HR at April 11, 2014 05:26 PM (ZKzrr) ------------------------------- Not sure this link is as 'random' as you claim, but a GREAT ONE nevertheless. Thank you!

Posted by: alwyr at April 11, 2014 01:30 PM (V0j3u)

208 love dana!!!

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at April 11, 2014 01:30 PM (u8GsB)

209 He is the very last there.

There are no more buggy whip manufacturers either.  That doesn't make the Feds responsible. 

Posted by: pep at April 11, 2014 01:31 PM (4nR9/)

210 You can buy 10 acres in Texas in the middle of nowhere right now on ebay for $1000. He should buy it for his cattle.

Posted by: Soothsayer the Unstompable at April 11, 2014 01:31 PM (Ja56Y)

211

Not even a little bit.

 

Hmmm...trying to frame my response in such a way that makes each hordeling comfortable with his or her own personal diploma framing choices, while hoping that one in particular feels scorned like a douchenozzle. 

 

I can see framing one if you're the first in your family to graduate college, or you never expected to make it, or there's some other compelling reason of merited pride to hang it up.  My BA was not extraordinary to me.

 

My MBA was an achievement.  It was at an undisputed top 10 b-school, it was a huge challenge for me (liberal arts refugee) and unlike undergrad I paid for it.  But it's a diploma.  It seems showoffy to put it up.  Anybody who needs to know knows that I have that degree, employers can verify it. 

 

I understand that doctors and lawyers put them up in their offices to reassure their clients that they've been educated.  In business, though, I'm either making sense or I'm not, regardless of where I went to school.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at April 11, 2014 01:32 PM (JtwS4)

212 There are no more buggy whip manufacturers either. That doesn't make the Feds responsible.

In the interest of full disclosure, I don't know for a fact that there are no buggy whip manufacturers.  This is supposition. 

Posted by: pep at April 11, 2014 01:32 PM (4nR9/)

213 it's not fed land, it's nevada state land....he pays his fees to nevada disputes he owes anything to the feds according to what i heard the rancher say on hannity

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at April 11, 2014 01:32 PM (u8GsB)

214

209 -

 

I could be wrong, but I'm getting the distinct impression you are being deliberately dense. 

 

Probably time for me to do something else.....

Posted by: BurtTC at April 11, 2014 01:32 PM (TOk1P)

215 Nice ending to the podcast. Really setting the tone for the weekend.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at April 11, 2014 01:33 PM (qyfb5)

216 You can buy 10 acres in Texas in the middle of nowhere right now on ebay for $1000. He should buy it for his cattle. *** Which will be promptly discovered to serve a population of spotted horned-toads and be labeled a federally protected area.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 11, 2014 01:33 PM (DmNpO)

217 "204 The Feds are deliberately making it impossible to effectively/profitably own cattle. Posted by: Lincolntf at April 11, 2014 05:25 PM (ZshNr) THIS. That's the issue. Why the FUCK does the Federal gov't own all that land? Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 11, 2014 05:28 PM (yz6yg)" The Government doesn't own the land. pep does. :-]

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 11, 2014 01:33 PM (9W+0f)

218 I could be wrong, but I'm getting the distinct impression you are being deliberately dense.

I get that a lot from people who don't have an answer. 

Posted by: pep at April 11, 2014 01:33 PM (4nR9/)

219 There are no more buggy whip manufacturers either. That doesn't make the Feds responsible. *** I stand by me previous statement. No. I am not "better than that".

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 11, 2014 01:34 PM (DmNpO)

220 The Government doesn't own the land. pep does. :-] *** heh

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 11, 2014 01:35 PM (DmNpO)

221 No. I am not "better than that".

Fair enough.

Posted by: pep at April 11, 2014 01:35 PM (4nR9/)

222 Watch a Western. Cattle move, feed, move, feed, move, feed, until someday they become steak tips. The Feds are deliberately making it impossible to effectively/profitably own cattle.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 11, 2014 05:25 PM (ZshNr)

 

 

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This regime wants  to be rid of beef.  It wants to be rid of pork.  And they'll be doing everything possible in the remaining time they have to do it.

 

Does anyone think that they won't be attempting to take over private grazing land?  It's doesn't matter to them.  They've been mandating over privately owned land for years.

 

What does anyone think those regulations  over  methane for cow farts are for?  We're at war  for our freedom.  NV is just as good a place as any to start it.  I'd be there if I had the means to get there.

Posted by: Soona at April 11, 2014 01:36 PM (Apfwx)

223 /phhhht

Posted by: Soothsayer the Unstompable at April 11, 2014 01:36 PM (Ja56Y)

224 Oh yeah...he's been fighting it in court for over a decade.

Posted by: wheatie at April 11, 2014 05:25 PM (FWbLS)

 

If what you posted is accurate ( relocating a turtle protective zone in favor of a building development)  and not prevailing in court,  I don't know how someone cannot go ballistic.    It makes me uncomfortable to feel this way because there are so many court decisions both civil and family where the loser does go ballistic but not based on anything a reasonable person  would see as justified.  

Such a thin line.  

Posted by: polynikes at April 11, 2014 01:36 PM (m2CN7)

225 it's not fed land, it's nevada state land....he pays his fees to nevada disputes he owes anything to the feds according to what i heard the rancher say on hannity *** Actually, it is federal land, which is why the big picture argument he is making about state vs federal control of the land is a losing argument. There are a lot of arguments he could make but this isn't the winning one.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 11, 2014 01:36 PM (DmNpO)

226 Melissa Clouthier@MelissaTweets:

Harry Reid blocks Republican request to pass bill cracking down on rapists.

http://t.co/SuD0dQ4nEk 

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 11, 2014 01:36 PM (hUf/y)

227 "220 The Government doesn't own the land. pep does. :-] *** heh Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 11, 2014 05:35 PM (DmNpO)" :-)

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 11, 2014 01:37 PM (9W+0f)

228 I assume desert scrubland with no water would be useless to a rancher, no matter how cheap it is.

Posted by: Red River at April 11, 2014 01:37 PM (wu/TK)

229 I completely support the commercial fishing industry, however, due to the recent discovery of several stunted snails in the Mid-Atlantic, we're forced to require that all fishing be done within a half mile of shore. Hopefully, after thirty years of replenishment, the snail health optimal level will have been reached and we'll be able to lease fishing areas as far out as two miles!

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 11, 2014 01:37 PM (ZshNr)

230 THIS. That's the issue. Why the FUCK does the Federal gov't own all that land? Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 11, 2014 05:28 PM (yz6yg) So it can stay nice and pristine for when they sell it to the Saudis/Chinese? The Nevada Purchase, if you will.

Posted by: LizLem at April 11, 2014 01:37 PM (yRwC8)

231

I could be wrong, but I'm getting the distinct impression you are being deliberately dense.

I get that a lot from people

 

Odd, isn't it.  Most people are never accused of being deliberately dense.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at April 11, 2014 01:37 PM (JtwS4)

232 "I will never understand why the Daily Mail is the best site for US news BUT also a cesspool of celeb gossip and paparazzi pics."

One key thing is that the DM are willing to print stories about violent crime motivated by racial animus that the American media can't run away from quickly enough.

Would never have heard about this story, for example, if left to the devices of the heavily censored Stateside media:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/kul6q8d

Posted by: torquewrench at April 11, 2014 01:38 PM (noWW6)

233 Harry Reid blocks Republican request to pass bill cracking down on rapists.

http://t.co/SuD0dQ4nEk

He must be feeling guilty.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at April 11, 2014 01:38 PM (4WhSY)

234 Some people are just assholes. Some assholes are not constituted in such a way that they can survive without their fat grubbies in someone else's business. Thus begin *most* of the problems in the world.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at April 11, 2014 01:38 PM (qyfb5)

235 If you missed the Fox News Reporting special last weekend, you should watch it. It features the Hage family ranch and the BLM's assault on them. The courts ruled that they were owed something like $14M but just this past week another court said they won't get the money.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 11, 2014 01:38 PM (DmNpO)

236 Oblamer would have us eat goats.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at April 11, 2014 01:39 PM (/djtm)

237
When he socializes the profits, we'll talk.

Ahem.

Posted by: They call me Mr. Tax at April 11, 2014 01:39 PM (hUf/y)

238

The Bundy family has been maintaining that land for decades...at their own expense.

 

Maintaining the roads, digging out the watering holes, etc. = maintenance.

 

The fees that they'd been paying used to go towards that, but the BLM stopped doing anything. 

Their fees ended up just going towards feeding the bureaucracy.

 

Then...they moved over the 'protected turtle zone' to the land, from another area. 

This was done to please some developers.

 

The whole thing stinks.

 

Posted by: wheatie at April 11, 2014 01:40 PM (FWbLS)

239 This is the sad time -- when Ace will disappear in an hour or two and not be seen for 72 hours.

Posted by: Rowan Atkinson at April 11, 2014 01:40 PM (8c12T)

240 "229 I completely support the commercial fishing industry, however, due to the recent discovery of several stunted snails in the Mid-Atlantic, we're forced to require that all fishing be done within a half mile of shore. Hopefully, after thirty years of replenishment, the snail health optimal level will have been reached and we'll be able to lease fishing areas as far out as two miles! Posted by: Lincolntf at April 11, 2014 05:37 PM (ZshNr)" Meanwhile, Leftism's War on Babies goes on.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 11, 2014 01:40 PM (9W+0f)

241 Because Empathy.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 11, 2014 01:40 PM (9W+0f)

242 Oblamer would have us eat goats.

He allegedly has a book on dog breeds coming out once he leaves office.

It's a cookbook.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at April 11, 2014 01:40 PM (4WhSY)

243 And Choice.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 11, 2014 01:41 PM (9W+0f)

244 Similar but less well-known disputes occurred 20+ years ago when the feds started pushing ranchers off of contracted grazing land. Basically the federal position is that they can overrule *any* prior agreements for any reason and if you don't like it, then you shouldn't have been born a peasant. Roughly. This is the tail end of that process, it's effectively over.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at April 11, 2014 01:41 PM (qyfb5)

245 But not Choice when it comes to endangered species. Only when it comes to babies.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 11, 2014 01:42 PM (9W+0f)

246 Dianna Rigg? Give her a fucking break! She's almost 76 years old.

Posted by: Rowan Atkinson at April 11, 2014 01:42 PM (8c12T)

247 The Culture of Choice.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 11, 2014 01:42 PM (9W+0f)

248 "Oblamer would have us eat goats."

Nope. Look at Moochelle's school lunch menu selections.

They want you eating what goats eat.

While they trough away at the $200/lb Wagyu steak at public expense.

(I remember seeing the news reports of this in the literal first few weeks of the administration in 2009, so they wasted no time about scarfing down the good stuff.)

Posted by: torquewrench at April 11, 2014 01:43 PM (noWW6)

249 I threw the bait out there and Blanco only took half.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at April 11, 2014 01:44 PM (/djtm)

250 Attacking older women for daring to get old is bullshit.

Posted by: Rowan Atkinson at April 11, 2014 01:44 PM (8c12T)

251 Who shot first?

Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 11, 2014 04:32 PM (yz6yg)



I did.

Posted by: John Brown at April 11, 2014 01:44 PM (r/e1Q)

252 "236 Oblamer would have us eat goats. Posted by: Golfman in NC at April 11, 2014 05:39 PM (/djtm)" Ingest dogs. But "eat" goats.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 11, 2014 01:45 PM (9W+0f)

253 I threw the bait out there and Blanco only took half.

The other half is in the trap pretty firmly, and I like my neck the way it is.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at April 11, 2014 01:45 PM (4WhSY)

254 To: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse and BurtTC My post (at #191) was deliberately meant to jerk your chain(s) - just a little bit. I REALLY enjoy Greg G. on 'The Five' because I think he has a way for slicing through all the bullshit and getting to the heart of any matter. HOWEVER, I do not find him extraordinarily 'humorous' on Red Eye - but maybe that's because I can't appreciate his 'humor at 3:00 a.m.

Posted by: alwyr at April 11, 2014 01:45 PM (V0j3u)

255 The Bundy family has been maintaining that land for decades...at their own expense.

Maintaining the roads, digging out the watering holes, etc. = maintenance.

They didn't make improvements for my benefit.  They made them so they'd make more money.  Again, when I share in the resulting profits, we'll talk. 

Posted by: pep at April 11, 2014 01:46 PM (4nR9/)

256

244 Similar but less well-known disputes occurred 20+ years ago when the feds started pushing ranchers off of contracted grazing land.

 

Yep.

It started under Clinton.

 

They used "conservation" as the excuse...but that didn't make sense, since they were turning around a granting leases for Mining to foreign companies.

 

Posted by: wheatie at April 11, 2014 01:48 PM (FWbLS)

257 Again, when I share in the resulting profits, we'll talk.

Posted by: pep at April 11, 2014 05:46 PM (4nR9/)



You're paying for it one way or the other, either through taxes or through beef prices.

Posted by: Country Singer at April 11, 2014 01:48 PM (r/e1Q)

258 "249 I threw the bait out there and Blanco only took half. Posted by: Golfman in NC at April 11, 2014 05:44 PM (/djtm)" :-]

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 11, 2014 01:48 PM (9W+0f)

259 Transgender female Twitter engineer, 32, is charged with raping her estranged wife the day after serving her with divorce papers DM - the gift that keeps giving.

Posted by: Rowan Atkinson at April 11, 2014 01:49 PM (8c12T)

260 They're spending 3 million bucks to "recoup" 1 million bucks. Guess who's really costing you money.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 11, 2014 01:49 PM (ZshNr)

261 I have no problem with hard work.

I can watch people do it all day without a problem.

Especially if I'm sitting in a nice shady spot with a cool drink in hand.

In the winter I look out my kitchen window and watch everyone shoveling their sidewalks and driveways.

Two days later the temp goes up and the snow goes by by.

I'm not lazy, I just work smart not hard.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 11, 2014 01:49 PM (JS0vr)

262
So the real question is "what should the federal govt do with land that it is not using?".  Now myself wanting the most frugal govt in the history of the universe says lease it or sell it.*  I suppose giving it to the each State might be an option if you want to argue who owns what.  But what appears to be happening is that it will be used for leftist political causes, which would be the worst thing possible.


* but don't sell it to the Indians as they were all finders keepers mine mine mine when we got it the first time.


Posted by: They call me Mr. Tax at April 11, 2014 01:49 PM (hUf/y)

263 Goats are not made for eating, they are gift from Allah!

Posted by: Dirka Dirka at April 11, 2014 01:50 PM (Aif/5)

264 "The federal committee crafting the 2015 “Dietary Guidelines for Americans” features radical nutritionists who favor Americans moved to 'plant-based' diets and a vice chair that laughs about sending Ronald McDonald to the guillotine. …“After 30 years of waiting, the fact that this committee is addressing sustainability issues brings me a lot of pleasure,” she began. Clancy went on to advocate that Americans should become vegetarians in order to achieve sustainability in the face of “climate change.” http://preview.tinyurl.com/m9dkfpk

Posted by: Lizzy at April 11, 2014 01:50 PM (gzJJ2)

265 228 I assume desert scrubland with no water would be useless to a rancher, no matter how cheap it is. Posted by: Red River at April 11, 2014 05:37 PM (wu/TK) It's not...that's why most ranchers out here in desert areas live near a river source, or have learned to irrigate the land to make it livable. Despite looking inhospitable people have settled these areas and thrived. I posted this earlier, but there is research on the success of ranching cattle where you let them graze at will over open lands, and they interact with animals like deer, the turtles, etc. It benefits everyone, harms no one, is an excellent system. Except the money and land grabbing govt workers, I guess.

Posted by: LizLem at April 11, 2014 01:50 PM (yRwC8)

266 THIS. That's the issue. Why the FUCK does the Federal gov't own all that land?
Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 11, 2014 05:28 PM (yz6yg)

That is actually an issue, but not germane here.  The fact is that the Feds DO own that land.  Change that, and Nevada can strike whatever deal it wants with him, or he can buy the land outright provided whomever is the owner wants to sell. 

Posted by: pep at April 11, 2014 01:50 PM (4nR9/)

267 They didn't make improvements for my benefit. They made them so they'd make more money. Again, when I share in the resulting profits, we'll talk.

Posted by: pep at April 11, 2014 05:46 PM (4nR9/)

 

 

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You don't eat beef?  If you don't then it's YOUR choice your not getting the benefits.  If you do then you are most definitely benefiting from his ranch  as well as from thousands of cattle ranchers everywhere.

Posted by: Soona at April 11, 2014 01:51 PM (Apfwx)

268 Minnows and turtles are more important than cattle herders and farmers.

Posted by: Your Betters at April 11, 2014 01:51 PM (Aif/5)

269 Transgender female Twitter engineer, 32, is charged with raping her estranged wife the day after serving her with divorce papers *** So she was a lesbian trapped in a man's body?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 11, 2014 01:51 PM (DmNpO)

270 They didn't make improvements for my benefit. They made them so they'd make more money. Again, when I share in the resulting profits, we'll talk. Posted by: pep at April 11, 2014 05:46 PM (4nR9/) ------------------------------- Do you have an EBT card? I ask this because you seem extraordinarily intent on 'sharing' the profits from other peoples' labor.

Posted by: alwyr at April 11, 2014 01:53 PM (V0j3u)

271 You're paying for it one way or the other, either through taxes or through beef prices.
Posted by: Country Singer

I choose whether or not to buy beef.  I don't get a choice as to whether or not to pay taxes, and I particularly dislike when a person assumes for himself the fight to decide what to do with land that belongs to me. 

Posted by: pep at April 11, 2014 01:53 PM (4nR9/)

272 "264 "The federal committee crafting the 2015 “Dietary Guidelines for Americans” features radical nutritionists who favor Americans moved to 'plant-based' diets and a vice chair that laughs about sending Ronald McDonald to the guillotine. …“After 30 years of waiting, the fact that this committee is addressing sustainability issues brings me a lot of pleasure,” she began. Clancy went on to advocate that Americans should become vegetarians in order to achieve sustainability in the face of “climate change.” http://preview.tinyurl.com/m9dkfpk Posted by: Lizzy at April 11, 2014 05:50 PM (gzJJ2)" 'Let them eat plants.' -- Michelle "Sweetie" Obama

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 11, 2014 01:53 PM (9W+0f)

273

255...Again, when I share in the resulting profits, we'll talk.

 

There are people mining for gems all over 'public land', pep.

They're digging holes and leaving them.

 

You wanna claim some of their profits?

Good luck with that.

 

Posted by: wheatie at April 11, 2014 01:53 PM (FWbLS)

274 They didn't make improvements for my benefit. They made them so they'd make more money. Again, when I share in the resulting profits, we'll talk.

Posted by: pep at April 11, 2014 05:46 PM (4nR9/)

 

When the Federal government allows the purchase by private individuals of this land then you may have a point.  Also if their agreement says the government is  to make these improvements pursuant to the payments made to them that is wrong.  And by the way,  the payments to the government I assume come from the profits of  rancher.   Has the government given  you any of it? 

 

 

Posted by: polynikes at April 11, 2014 01:54 PM (m2CN7)

275 fight = right

Posted by: pep at April 11, 2014 01:54 PM (4nR9/)

276 So she was a lesbian trapped in a man's body? Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 11, 2014 05:51 PM (DmNpO) Nah, he was just a fucked up guy who cut his dick off. The wife is the lesbian.

Posted by: Rowan Atkinson at April 11, 2014 01:54 PM (8c12T)

277 Go assert your ownership rights, pep. You'll be Tased and dragged off in a paddy wagon.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 11, 2014 01:54 PM (ZshNr)

278 "The federal committee crafting the 2015 “Dietary Guidelines for Americans” features radical nutritionists who favor Americans moved to 'plant-based' diets and a vice chair that laughs about sending Ronald McDonald to the guillotine. …“After 30 years of waiting, the fact that this committee is addressing sustainability issues brings me a lot of pleasure,” she began. Clancy went on to advocate that Americans should become vegetarians in order to achieve sustainability in the face of “climate change.” *** When all is said and done, this is what's behind all this bullshit. If they can't ban cow farts, they will make it economically unfeasible to raise them.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 11, 2014 01:54 PM (DmNpO)

279 T'was a Tiff, not a Twiddle, Tranny Twit Tells Officer.

Posted by: Daily Maul at April 11, 2014 01:55 PM (wu/TK)

280 Pep you're being a poop.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 11, 2014 01:55 PM (JS0vr)

281 When the popo says repeatly to back up or you'll be tased and they are pointing a taser at you... Well fucking duh, don't piss and moan when your ass is doing the 50K jig on the ground Why don't you go back to sucking Eric Holders man parts.

Posted by: Beyond Disgusted at April 11, 2014 01:55 PM (thLL8)

282 There are people mining for gems all over 'public land', pep.
They're digging holes and leaving them.

You wanna claim some of their profits?
Good luck with that.

Did I say I agreed with this?  Regardless, the people digging for gems don't then claim that the land belongs to them because they're making money out of it. 

When the Federal government allows the purchase by private individuals of this land then you may have a point.Also if their agreementsays the government is to make these improvements pursuant to the payments made to them that is wrong. And by the way, the payments to the government I assume come from the profits of rancher. Has the government given you any of it?

Not being snarky, but I don't understand what you're saying here. 

Posted by: pep at April 11, 2014 01:56 PM (4nR9/)

283 251 Who shot first? Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 11, 2014 04:32 PM (yz6yg) We'll never know.

Posted by: Lexington and Concord at April 11, 2014 01:56 PM (yRwC8)

284 "277 Go assert your ownership rights, pep. You'll be Tased and dragged off in a paddy wagon. Posted by: Lincolntf at April 11, 2014 05:54 PM (ZshNr)" As long as he's also wearing a bikini. :-]

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 11, 2014 01:57 PM (9W+0f)

285 Haha you think you own that land peasant? That's cute.

Posted by: Your Betters at April 11, 2014 01:57 PM (Aif/5)

286 I choose whether or not to buy beef. I don't get a choice as to whether or not to pay taxes, and I particularly dislike when a person assumes for himself the fight to decide what to do with land that belongs to me. *** And what benefit, exactly, do you gain from the feds owning this land?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 11, 2014 01:57 PM (DmNpO)

287

They didn't make improvements for my benefit. They made them so they'd make more money. Again, when I share in the resulting profits, we'll talk.
Posted by: pep at April 11, 2014 05:46 PM (4nR9/)

 

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Do you have an EBT card? I ask this because you seem extraordinarily intent on 'sharing' the profits from other peoples' labor.

Posted by: alwyr at April 11, 2014 05:53 PM (V0j3u)

 

 

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You stole my comment.  The more pep comments, the more he sounds like  one  of the takers.  A real fan of the "collective". 

Posted by: Soona at April 11, 2014 01:57 PM (Apfwx)

288 >>If they can't ban cow farts, they will make it economically unfeasible to raise them. OR if they can't ban cows and beef products they'll claim cow farts are killing the planet and establish arbitrary, unreachable cow emission reduction guidelines so that it becomes impossible to own cattle. Vegan diet is just an "unexpected" totes planned outcome. Nudge, nudge, nudge.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 11, 2014 01:57 PM (gzJJ2)

289
Pep?  The govt is not owning this land for your benefit.  It is to use it against you.  To keep it from you.  This is something being withheld from you as an American.  At least with a grazing contract (which is in dispute here) some benefit of it reaches Americans.

Do you know how much national forest land is kept off limits to Americans?  Its a fuckton in scientific terms.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 11, 2014 01:58 PM (hUf/y)

290

pep I'm usually in agreement with you but you sound like the person who they based the saying,   first they  came for ______  and I said nothing. 

Posted by: polynikes at April 11, 2014 01:58 PM (m2CN7)

291

Btw....Great Podcast, guys!

 

Thanks.

And congrats on getting Dana Perino to join in!

It was nice to hear her talking about the 'duties of a WH press secretary'.

 

Posted by: wheatie at April 11, 2014 01:58 PM (FWbLS)

292 Votes to help confirm Holder:
Alexander (R-TN)
Bennett (R-UT)
Bond (R-MO)
Chambliss (R-Ga)
Collins (R-ME)
Corker (R-TN)
Graham (R-SC)
Grassley (R-IA)
Gregg (R-NH)
Hatch (R-UT)
Isakson (R-GA)
Kyl (R-AZ)
Lugar (R-IN)
McCain (R-AZ)
Murkowski (R-AK)
Sessions (R-AL)
Snowe (R-ME)
Specter (R-PA)
Voinovich (R-OH)

Remember, it's important to just vote for the R...

Posted by: Remember, Remember, on the 4th of November at April 11, 2014 01:59 PM (08jH8)

293 wrong post.

Posted by: Remember, Remember, on the 4th of November at April 11, 2014 01:59 PM (08jH8)

294 new Holder/Sharpton post up

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 11, 2014 01:59 PM (DmNpO)

295 And what benefit, exactly, do you gain from the feds owning this land?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse

I may not gain any, other than the right to dispose of it in the future as I see fit, through the medium of my elected reps.  I have as low an opinion of pols as any of you, but I'm not willing to cede my rights to that land because a rancher assumes that because he's had access in the past, it's his land to do with as he pleases.

Posted by: pep at April 11, 2014 01:59 PM (4nR9/)

296 "286 I choose whether or not to buy beef. I don't get a choice as to whether or not to pay taxes, and I particularly dislike when a person assumes for himself the fight to decide what to do with land that belongs to me. *** And what benefit, exactly, do you gain from the feds owning this land? Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 11, 2014 05:57 PM (DmNpO)" It's sort of like Viagra. :-]

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 11, 2014 02:00 PM (9W+0f)

297 That is actually an issue, but not germane here. The fact is that the Feds DO own that land. Change that, and Nevada can strike whatever deal it wants with him, or he can buy the land outright provided whomever is the owner wants to sell. Posted by: pep at April 11, 2014 05:50 PM (4nR9/) Oh, the gov'mint and the cowman should be friends, Oh, the gov'mint and the cowman should be friends. One man likes to chase a cow, The other likes to tell him how, But that's no reason why they cain't be friends.

Posted by: Stuff Rodgers and Hammerstein wrote at April 11, 2014 02:01 PM (yRwC8)

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 11, 2014 02:01 PM (DmNpO)

299 290 pep I'm usually in agreement with you but you sound like the person who they based the saying, first they came for ______ and I said nothing.

So, if I have a concession stand on the grounds of the National Mall, I now own it?   You all seem to be in favor of squatter's rights. 

Posted by: pep at April 11, 2014 02:01 PM (4nR9/)

300 Pep, what do you think about fishermen hauling catches out of "your" waters without sending you a cut?

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 11, 2014 02:02 PM (ZshNr)

301 ***heads to barrel***

Posted by: pep at April 11, 2014 02:02 PM (4nR9/)

302 Pep. What part of the feds owning billions and billions of acres of land serves the public interest? How does their ownership of 80% of the land in Nevada benefit Nevadans?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 11, 2014 02:03 PM (DmNpO)

303

And peps in the barrel.  Just sit there and don't do anything, because the govt owns it.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 11, 2014 02:03 PM (hUf/y)

304 No one was looking, they all went to the other thread, I think you got away with it NDH.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 11, 2014 02:04 PM (JS0vr)

305 "289 Pep? The govt is not owning this land for your benefit. It is to use it against you. To keep it from you. This is something being withheld from you as an American. At least with a grazing contract (which is in dispute here) some benefit of it reaches Americans. Do you know how much national forest land is kept off limits to Americans? Its a fuckton in scientific terms. Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 11, 2014 05:58 PM (hUf/y)" Big Brother loves pep. :-] Later, all. God bless. :-)

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 11, 2014 02:05 PM (9W+0f)

306 So, if I have a concession stand on the grounds of the National Mall, I now own it? You all seem to be in favor of squatter's rights.

Posted by: pep at April 11, 2014 06:01 PM (4nR9/)

 

concession stands  and   grazing rights are so similar.  

Posted by: polynikes at April 11, 2014 02:05 PM (m2CN7)

307 No one was looking, they all went to the other thread, I think you got away with it NDH. *** It wasn't me!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 11, 2014 02:05 PM (DmNpO)

308 Or was that poop?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 11, 2014 02:05 PM (JS0vr)

309 It's like a fart. Sometimes it's difficult to be sure who did it.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 11, 2014 02:05 PM (JS0vr)

310 300 Pep, what do you think about fishermen hauling catches out of "your" waters without sending you a cut? Posted by: Lincolntf

I think they should have to pay a fee to exploit resources in public waters.  That money should be spent on things like fishery replenishment, or the Coast Guard, so that when the CG has to haul the fisherman's asses out of a leaky boat in the middle of a storm, I'm not left paying for it. 

The fishermen will naturally pass the increased cost onto the consumer.  Great.  Let the people who eat the fish derived from the fishery pay the expenses of being in the fish business. 

Posted by: pep at April 11, 2014 02:06 PM (4nR9/)

311 What part of the feds owning billions and billions of acres of land serves the public interest?

How does their ownership of 80% of the land in Nevada benefit Nevadans?

When did I defend the Feds ownership of 80% of Nevada?

Posted by: pep at April 11, 2014 02:07 PM (4nR9/)

312 concession stands and grazing rights are so similar. Posted by: polynikes

Unresponsive.

Posted by: pep at April 11, 2014 02:07 PM (4nR9/)

313 Let the cows run freeeeeee!!!!!!!

Posted by: Rowan Atkinson at April 11, 2014 02:08 PM (8c12T)

314 concession stands and grazing rights are so similar.

Posted by: polynikes

Unresponsive.

Posted by: pep at April 11, 2014 06:07 PM (4nR9/)

 

illogical comparisons don't require responses. 

Posted by: polynikes at April 11, 2014 02:10 PM (m2CN7)

315 Okay, then. Industry must serve the State.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 11, 2014 02:11 PM (ZshNr)

316

Alberto Gonzales just emailed me to say, "I can't think of a one."

Former White House Counsel Harriet Miers says she can't believe that Congress would hold a high legal official of the opposite party in contempt.


How convenient for you.

Posted by: pep at April 11, 2014 02:11 PM (4nR9/)

317

295...I have as low an opinion of pols as any of you, but I'm not willing to cede my rights to that land because a rancher assumes that because he's had access in the past, it's his land to do with as he pleases.
 

 

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You've got this part wrong, pep.

 

Bundy doesn't claim the land is "his" to do with as he pleases...

He wants to get his cattle off...but the government won't let him.

 

The BLM goons have confiscated his  herd of  cattle.

And they are piss poor stewards of them.

They've been stampeding them using helicopters...separating newborn calves from their mothers, because the little ones can't keep up.

 

Now...they're talking about having to put a lot of them down, euthanizing them...because they're too weak and skinny to survive.

 

Posted by: wheatie at April 11, 2014 02:11 PM (FWbLS)

318 Bundy doesn't claim the land is "his" to do with as he pleases...
He wants to get his cattle off...but the government won't let him.

From my admittedly imperfect understanding, the real issue is that Bundy was told 20 years ago to get his cattle off the land, and didn't do so.  The Feds want him to pay the amount he gained by ignoring a valid order, and in lieu of his cutting a check, they've taken his cattle as collateral.  Now he wants the ill-gotten fruits of that trespass and doesn't want to have to pay for his illegal use of public land.  Sorry, but no.  If you deliberately ignore the law in an attempt to continue enriching yourself, then tough. 

Posted by: pep at April 11, 2014 02:16 PM (4nR9/)

319 Industry must serve the State
Posted by: Lincolntf at April 11, 2014 06:11 PM (ZshNr)

I heard there once was a political system that held that that was a fundamental right of government.

Let me see who was that? hmm.  It's right on the tip of my tongue.

Nancies,  Snazzies, Natties. something like that.

They were a form of fascisti  and killed a whole bunch of people they didn't like and who didn't agree with them on everything.

Sort of like our friends and fellow citizens on the left.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 11, 2014 02:21 PM (JS0vr)

320 >> I assume at some point in the past someone covered what's up with the random system sound effects? Bing! Bong! Gah! It's from forgetting to turn off the damned con call join/leave announcement. >> Y'all are getting better at normalizing the sound. Thanks. I made 2 big changes to the technology in the last 2 weeks, and it seems like they're working well.

Posted by: Andy at April 11, 2014 02:56 PM (vGQV1)

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