1 PUSILLANIMOUS

Definition of PUSILLANIMOUS : lacking courage and resolution : marked by contemptible timidity

2 "Craven" comes to mind...

3 I feel a surge of Presbyterian violence coming on. 

4 Yeah, we will not publish photos of burning korans,but wooza, we couldn't get enough pictures of "piss Christ" and "dung covered Mary".

5 Sounds like Slu needs to work up a new gif so AoS can scoop the MFM on this one.

6 Pretty much at this point it is our state religion.  Our military is burning bibles now in Afghanistan, and our president is both demanding we shut up about the Ground Zero Mosque and that some goofball pastor not burn his private property.

7 Jeebus, Ace.  The comments on the linky are as crazy as the muzztards.  One of them says the burning of the Quran amounts to terrorism.  Really?  Really??

8 As much as I hate the trueth that such acts will cause more violence...I am left with the rest of the truth...we need to take a stand and let these nut jobs know, they cant bully folks around anymore.  And yes, I fully understand this wont be easy, but nothing of substance ever is.

9 My God.  That last comment was so full of abbreviations it should be classified.

10 I'm not sure there's another word for it.

Afraid, wimpish, gutless spineless, weak, craven, faint-hearted, lily-livered and yellow-bellied also fit the bill.

11
No photos?  Ok.. how about some fake Koran flushing down the toilet stories?

12 Wait a minute. Didn't they publish a picture of a burning Koran back when Israel invaded Lebanon? You know, in order to point out how evil the jooooos are? And wasn't it staged, along with pictures of burning toys, the wailing woman holding bullets, and whatnot?

13 Coffins of dead servicemen?  Abu Ghraib photos?  Classified information?  Those are fine and dandy.

Video of 9-11?  Burning Korans?  Off limits.

It's amazing what is over the line for the MSM and what isn't.

14 I guess an artist's rendering and/or puppet theater reenactment is out of the question?

15
If he burns the damn books, it's only a matter of hours until Terry Jones is charged with a hate crime.

16

OT

Rasmussen has Zero at -24. Isn't that a brand new low?

17

AP was the group that deliberately played up the atrocity in Falleujah. One of their editors stated that he hoped it would educate the US on feelings here.

 

Hey remember how people on this site likened book burnings to Nazism? How about pre-emptory news blackouts? Anyone here think that the Reich never did that?

18 The best thing that could happen would be if this guy would explain why he is burning them by reading from the book.

Then put out the fire and say he just wanted to make sure people understood the Islamic faith and what motivated jihadists.

19

...we cannot keep matching each of the demands of expansionist, murderous Islam and giving it a special place as the de facto national religion, the single religion for which the legal penalty of blasphemy exists.

Ace, you nailed it.

20 Rasmussen has Zero at -24. Isn't that a brand new low?

Til tomorrow.

21

That's fucking funny as hell on `roids.

(AP) had NO problems publishing the photos of  Marine Lance Cpl. Joshua M. Bernard, 21, of New Portland, Maine last year as he lay dying on the battlefield from horrific wounds in A-stan ... even AFTER his family pleaded with them not to.

22 Hopefully our anime friends can do a re-enactment like they did with the Al Gore masseuse story.

23 I seem to remember AP having a real boner for pictures of blown-up korans placed strategically in shell craters when Israel attacked hezbollah-stan.

24 If only we had more room, but we have so many pictures of burning flags scheduled for that day. (Some of them may have to be shot at our headquarters, but, whatever...)

25

In an effort to prevent the Muslim world from exploding into a violent rage over the burning of copies of the Koran, the AP is telling the world that people will set copies of the Koran on fire, but that the AP will not be showing images of the burning Korans, which will be set on fire and burned, which people are going to do to copies of the Koran.

I'll help the AP to keep this Koran-burning thing a secret by not telling anyone that people are going to set the Koran on fire.

26 That's ok AP, you're not relevant anymore anyway.  I'm sure the intertubes will have pics.

27 So:  The NYSlime publishes photos of Abu Ghraib daily for over a month.  Rising violence against US troops?  Just dandy. 

28 We are the deciders!

29 Some were worried about "it" causing lots of new "recruits" - if so then would'nt such events be good for "THE PLANET" to flush out any people of such an extreme mindset that they are willing to kill: and identify them for the rest of us who wish to peacefully co-exist, and are not prone to insanity by symbolic gestures?

30
Well, at least they didn't publish photos of Abu Grib and make that story a big deal.

31 There are so many negative things going on here, it's driving me crazy:

(1) The theme of the Diane Rehm Show (on NPR) this morning was the "frenzy" of anti-Muslim feeling abroad in the country.  Really?  Four supposedly serious people sat around discussing that myth--citing no evidence beyond Dove World Outreach.

(2) Why is it that everything Obama and company dislike is a bonanza for al Quaeda--Gitmo, Dove World Outreach, etc.--but not the GZM?  I have heard no one persuasively address why a mosque at Ground Zero is not an incitement to more terrorism.  The lesson seems quite simple to me: knock down some buildings, kill thousands of infidels, get a mosque.  Whether that actually inspires anyone or not, it seems to me, is at least as likely as all the other scenarios cited by the Administration, the MFM, et al.

(3) Why is burning the Koran un-American but burning, oh, let's say,  the American flag not?

(4) Pace to Gen. Petraeus, but should we really be fighting people who are so easily provoked.  They are starting to seem to me more like children to be ignored than men to be taken seriously.

(5) And why the selective sensitivity?  There have been numerous public incidents of desecration of the Catholic Eucharist in recent years--see, e.g., P.Z. Myers--a far graver crime in the eyes of Catholics--and not a peep from anyone in any position of authority.  I'm really beginning to think that we're watching a subtle, creeping Islamization here.  Our elites seem to be on-board at least with the anti-blasphemy aspects of Sharia.  I've long been mystified by the central premise of Robert Ferrigno's Assassin novels--namely, that much of the U.S. converts to Islam after a nuclear attack--but now I'm starting to see the plausibility of it.

32
Ummmm friendly reminder.....

Isnt this same press that published the GITMO photos.... the same press that ran with the Koran flushing fable...... the same press that published classified intelligence gathering operations..... the same press, Oh nevermind.

Lesson here is they're MORE than willing to inflame the Arab street when it suits their agenda,

33 Meanwhile,  does it occur to anyone that there is a heavy dose of manipulation of public opinion in this story?

Why did the press and TV jump on this?  It's a very small church in Gainsville,  Florida,  not exactly a huge media market.

And have you noticed this is getting tied in pretty heavily to the mosque,  and being covered almost extensively to the exclusion of the mosque?

And have you noticed that this pastor is pretty close to a certified lunatic?

Why is the media deliberately pushing a story designed to incite violence?

I think people need to look real carefully at what is being done.

34 I have heard no one persuasively address why a mosque at Ground Zero is not an incitement to more terrorism. riot.

35 The symbol of our nation is the U.S. flag. The symbol of the Islamic nation is the Koran. AP today: showing images of burning flag and reports "Afghans chant Death to Christians." Religious hate and burning of symbols is ok. AP today: refuses to show images of burning Koran. Seems like a pretty clear cut example of sedition. Under the upcoming change in Congressional power, this enemy of the state (AP) must be brought to account before Congress.

36

Why did the press and TV jump on this?  It's a very small church in Gainsville,  Florida,  not exactly a huge media market.

When they got there and were told that Tebow had left town, they had to cover something.

37
My God, it's full of hypocrisy. 

38 Instead of showing pictures of the burning Korans, how about show the congregation enjoying their tasty pull-pork sandwiches made from the pig that was roasted over the pit the korans were burned in...

39
Remember when that cockscucker Kevin Sikes? was embeddded with a unit in Iraq and posted a video on boing boing of a soldier (Marine?) shooting some jihadi who supposedly surrendered?

The jihadists were notorious for either playing dead or booby trapping their dead.

Remember that?

40
Isnt this same press that published the GITMO photos.... the same press that ran with the Koran flushing fable...... the same press that published classified intelligence gathering operations..... the same press, Oh nevermind.

They don't have room on their servers for burning Koran photos.  They'd have to delete several terrabytes of stock "Piss Christ" images.

41 particularly bloody or grisly scenes, such as the sounds and moments of beheadings and shootings, displays of severed heads on pikes and images of hostages who are displayed by hostage-holders

Yes!  Yes!! Yes!!!

42 (meant to include in my AP flag-burning images comment) -- AP article TODAY showing burning U.S. flag. http://apne.ws/9TX3bK

43 My God.  It's full of Italians.

44 My God, it's full of italics.

45

I like how the AP equivocates this stunt with beheadings and heads on spikes. 

Nancy Pelosi just called to say, "That's a bit of a stretch, don't you think?"

46 This thread slants to the right......

47 Meanwhile,  does it occur to anyone that there is a heavy dose of manipulation of public opinion in this story?

Why did the press and TV jump on this?  It's a very small church in Gainsville,  Florida,  not exactly a huge media market.

And have you noticed this is getting tied in pretty heavily to the mosque,  and being covered almost extensively to the exclusion of the mosque?

And have you noticed that this pastor is pretty close to a certified lunatic?

Why is the media deliberately pushing a story designed to incite violence?

I think people need to look real carefully at what is being done.

Posted by: Miss Marple

 

There's another association with the Phelps thugs. Nobody in the AP is boycotting footage of those thugs harrassing mourners at a funeral. If they do make note of it, it's an attempt to portray them as being representative of Christianity. Anybodu on record as saying that they have the right, but oficially condemning it? Why is it that biker clubes take more interest than anyone else?

48 The blog's so scared of Islam that it's shaking.

Either that or Ace forgot to close a tag.

49

. . . he notes we have demanded that every other religion be "domesticated," which, dogged metaphor aside, means that we have demanded that other religions fall into compliance with civil law -- even where (as with Christian Science) the illegal aspect of the religion is a truly important part of the religion.

I remember Clinton trying to force Catholic teaching hospitals to teach abortion procedures. Did he ever cram that one through?

50 Abu Ghraib pictures?  Check!
Pictures and video of civilians falling to their deaths on 9/11?  Hell no!

(Fake) story about a Koran being flushed down a toilet at Club Gitmo?  Check!

Danish cartoons about the Prophet?  No way, Jose!

Oh, and forget about showing a cartoon image of Mohammed on a crappy-animated TV show.  But they will show animated video of President Bush and Jesus being crapped on a few minutes later on that same TV show!

51 Alright. Who the fuck spilled the barrel of italics all over the floor?

52

So, are we all using our inner dialogue?

53 HA has a linky to Sky news, with the crazy pastor saying he might "reconsider" the Koran burning if Barky asks him to.

That pastor certainly is a fame whore.

54 Is a Koran fueled bonfire offensive? You bet. Is it offensive to build a mosque on the ashes of ground zero? Absolutely. But this is America and you're allowed to be offensive. If you don't like it...FUCK OFF!!!

55 Those damn Eye-talians have made everything in italics again.

56
The Boston Globe not only pushed the Abu Graib 'torture' story, they even went as far as publishing still-photos from prOn movies as scenes from Abu Graib.

Remember that?

57 I really like this blog.

58
Uncensored prOn-movie stills, btw.

...on their front page.

59 I remember Clinton trying to force Catholic teaching hospitals to teach abortion procedures. Did he ever cram that one through?

He didn't try to "cram it through'". He merely tried to tamp it in with a cigar.

60

Who the fuck spilled the barrel of italics all over the floor?

NOT ME.

61 I feel left out.  I'm not italicized or right-leaning.

62 Memo to AP staff from Standards Center: Guidance - planned Sept. 11 Quran burning

Tom Kent
Deputy Managing Editor for Standards and Production


Tom Kent is a deputy managing editor and standards editor of The Associated Press.

He served with the AP as correspondent in Sydney, Australia; correspondent for NATO and the European Union in Brussels; correspondent and bureau chief in Moscow; chief of AP operations in Iran during the Iranian revolution; deputy news editor and news editor of AP's World Service Division in New York; and international editor of the AP.

He has served twice as a juror for the Pulitzer Prizes in international reporting, and has been a board member of the Overseas Press Club of New York.

He was raised in Shaker Heights, Ohio, holds a degree in Russian and East European Studies from Yale University and speaks Russian, French and Spanish. He has taught at the Columbia University Graduate School of Journalism since 1996, and since 2001 at the Harriman Institute of Columbia's School of International and Public Affairs.


Tom is also a giant puss.

63

If he burns the damn books, it's only a matter of hours until Terry Jones is charged with a hate crime.

I think you may be right.  But since he's planning to do it on his property with his Qurans, it's going to be thin.  As in anorexic.  Luckily the US and Egypt have already proposed a "defamation (blasphemy) of religion (Islam)" resolution in the UN.  Thus reversing GWB's position upholding the First Amendment.  Moreover, international socialists transnational progressives favor international agreements over the US Constitution.  So the usual, "it's just the UN" may not apply.

Jones to be the first test case?      

64

6 Pretty much at this point it is our state religion.  Our military is burning bibles now in Afghanistan, and our president is both demanding we shut up about the Ground Zero Mosque and that some goofball pastor not burn his private property.

Our military is burning Bibles = metaphorically or literally?

65 Hey, at least they show pictures of flag draped coffins.

66 Islam is garbage and so is the MFM

67 I just want to say this, burning a Koran is not going to cause more violence. Islamic terrorists are already violent. Can we please stop this stupid meme?

68 My God, it's full of pussy...

All this pussies are yours, use them together, use them in peace.

69 ..... causes Arab Street to explode.

....  Religion of Peace.^TM

Ironic juxtaposition. MFM never seems to notice.

70 Did the AP publish the photos of the Blackwater employees who had been beaten and burnt by the Fallujah mob?

If so -- burnt people, OK; burnt Koran, not OK.

That's nuts.

71 Islam is Scientology or the Unification Church 14 centuries and 1.5 billion people later.

72 Why doesn't some artist dip the koran in urine so that it's too wet to burn?

73

All this pussies are yours, use them together, use them in peace.

Except Uranus.  Attempt no landing there.

74 Our military is burning Bibles = metaphorically or literally?

Soldiers caught proselytizing and handing out Bibles.
Bibles seized, soldiers chastised.
Bibles disposed of.
Bibles burned with rest of daily trash.

So literally.

75 So, last year, the U.S. freaking military had to BURN "unsolicited" bibles sent to Afghanistan.  Okey dokey.

Hell + handbasket.  Some assembly required.

76 The bombing in mostly Orthodox Christian North Ossetia is a fresh blow to Kremlin efforts to rein in a growing Islamic insurgency in the neighboring, mainly Muslim North Caucasus provinces of Chechnya, Ingushetia and Dagestan.

Meh..... Im sure Putin is going to give a rats ass about the Arab Street and Islamic sensitivities.

77 Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at September 09, 2010 01:28 PM (Yq+qN)

Literally
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64

OT: Well don't that beat all.

Military Burns Unsolicited Bibles in Afghanistan.

http://tinyurl.com/2cqynmo

 

Posted by: robtr at September 09, 2010 01:03 PM (fwSHf)

78
This is the same AP who issued a memorandum to its staff on how to write about the Ground Zero mosque instructing them on how its a) not a mosque, and b) not at Ground Zero.

^{And c) 9/11 never happened, and d) if it did happen, it was done by Christians.}

79

All this pussies are yours, use them together, use them in peace.

Yeah, and "Let there be light."

(Sorry. I'm feeling a little left out in this thread.)

80

Mudville Gazette: AP is 'truly appalling' - http://tinyurl.com/ktv245

81
AP headline:  U.S. military burns unsolicited bibles in Afghanistan.  Baptists go on burning, killing rampage.

82 54 HA has a linky to Sky news, with the crazy pastor saying he might "reconsider" the Koran burning if Barky asks him to.

That pastor certainly is a fame flame whore.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 09, 2010 01:26 PM (UOM4

FIFY.

83 Hell + handbasket.  Some assembly required.

Destination locked in,
Warp factor 9...engage.

84

Ace,

Minor quibble here, but a Hitchens essay is "very good...as usual"?

 

Seriously?

85 Since they (muslims) are all mad all the time ... what does it matter?

86 Is a Koran fueled bonfire offensive? You bet. Maybe it is offensive to some. but fuck them. It is not offensive to me. Maybe it is a bad idea since it stirs shit, and definitely it is un-christian, but offensive is the wrong word here i think. and, btw, nobody said you dont have a right to be offense free. The mosque, on the other hand, is offensive and aggressive and when you are a guest it is inexcusable to offend. If my guest offends me i throw them the fuck out.

87 83 On Topic:
Breaking News:

A roadside bomb killed at least 10 people Thursday in Pakistan's restive northwest tribal region said officials.

The victims were traveling in a passenger van in a remote village in Kurram tribal district when their vehicle hit the buried explosive, wounding four others, according to authorities.

Posted by: Downscaled Upscale at September 09, 2010 01:34 PM (IhHdM)

Move along, nothing to see here.

88 The same AP who photo shopped the flotilla thugs... ya know.. cropped out the knife .

89 Related: LATMA brings you the Palestinian Minister of Uncontrollable Rage.

90

strangely i'm un-moved by the new sensibilities of cnn. I found it bizzare that they would make a huge issue of a backwater pastor wanting attention during  the mosque fiasco, guess it would have nothing to do with how they want some U.S citizens portrayed, Most f us have reiterated that the darned pastor has the right to do so. but it's rather silly.

I'm now not even offended by the Pastor being an opportunist ,as it seems He is.

He certainly showed again why we know Islam is Not a reliion of peace or particularly suited to the west and our freedoms. Although I srsly doubt the pastor really cared about the point.

cnn rarely seems to care the danger our men and women are in when they want to win political points for their team. Obama also didn't seem to mind when the Dems and He  spoke belligerantly of  our carpet bombing citizens and wedding parties, in a country we were fighting , after being attacked on 9-11 actually attacking regular citizens with that purpose. Gitmo still open,renditions still exist, other countries now included, I keep hoping the American people will wake up and realize the whole Hate Bush war monger was only for the political desire, to win seats and really meant to screw over Reps, did not matter at all, just a tool, a everything has been to them. Use anything, even our men and women in harms way.

 cnn truly gth.

91 What aspect of Christian Science is it that's supposed to be illegal?

Aren't you thinking of the Mormons?  Most of them gave up on having harems 100 odd years ago anyway. 

92  100% vagina, right there.

93 -- Minor quibble here, but a Hitchens essay is "very good...as usual"? Be nice to Hitchens or Zombie Hitchens will eat your brains.

94 "That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men."

Ya know, the government's only role in this thing should be to ring the area with law enforcement officers to defend these dipshits while they engage in free speech.  Obama should be impeached just for opening his fucking cocksucker.

95 This thread puts our troops in greater danger.  Stop it now.

96 Americans are being 'told' to rate the importance of constitutional rights:  Freedom of speech vs. freedom of religion.

Wait a second.... the constitution only says that the government will make no laws that buttinsky into religion. Which means that "freedom of religion" (unstated in the constitution) would necessarily fall under freedom of speech.

My, my... the implications.

97
Why would anyone want to look at pictures of burning korans when they can take a video tour of my colon (coming in 3D soon!)

98 -- What aspect of Christian Science is it that's supposed to be illegal? denying medical care, especially to minors.

99

Sorry to go OT, but this is too good to pass up.  Chris Christie slams yet another teacher.  Epic:

http://tinyurl.com/2ffkpmb

If that link does not work, just click on my name - it will go to the same destination.

 

100 Again I ask - in the protests over this in the Middle East did the muslims burn bibles? I bet they did but no western reporter will say so.

101 http://tinyurl.com/39o9u2y

102

Sorry to go OT, but this is too good to pass up.  Chris Christie slams yet another teacher.

 

How dare he. Did he not take into consideration the 'Educational street'? They're seething with resentment at such acts of teacherphobia.

103
"When your enemy is angry, piss on his corn flakes."

-- Shih Tzu

104 Again I ask - in the protests over this in the Middle East did the muslims burn bibles?

I bet they did but no western reporter will say so.

Our own military is burning the bibles for them, for fear that the bibles could inflame tensions.

105 So, Bible-burning is perfectly fine, you just can't do the same with the Koran. That doesn't make any sense

Of course it does.  Burn a Bible, get prayed for.  Burn a Koran, get beheaded.  Civilization has collapsed.  The world is ruled by force.  What's so difficult?

106 So, Bible-burning is perfectly fine, you just can't do the same with the Koran. That doesn't make any sense, especially when people keep arguing against burning the Koran by saying you don't burn Holy Books.


Actually, the Bible burning in this case was worse because that was actually to keep them out of the hands of people who might have been influenced by reading them.  The Koran burning is purely symbolic.

107 104 Again I ask - in the protests over this in the Middle East did the muslims burn bibles?

I bet they did but no western reporter will say so.   There are no Bibles in the ME. We burned them for them already.

108 Beagle, that UN thing might explain why this is getting so much attention,  and why this pastor,  who seems to be a dubious character,  is making himself a target.

Or maybe this story is just the destraction of the day to keep us from noticing some other bad thing they are planning in the White House.

109

One thing I'm certain of, the Russkies know how to speak to Mooselimbs in a language they understand. And the MFM will keep their fucking mouths shut about it for 2 reasons.

1. The Russians don't give a rat's ballsack what the MFM thinks.

2. The MFM, being in love with all totalitarian leftists, still fondly remember the Russkies as fellow travelers.

110
@81

D#mn I thought I had it convinced!

111 You wingnuts are going to respect my muslim faith or else!

112 Can they stop publishing photos of Michelle O while they're at it?

113
First they burnt Beatles records and I didn't care because I liked the Stones.
Then they burned disco records and I didn't care because I'm not ghey.
Now they are burning korans, but I have plenty of toilet paper.

Wake me when they get to busty lesbian pron.

114 " They kill us, and we then proselytize on their behalf."

But first, they (and the AP) will blow us!

(not blow us up....)

115 This pastor was on the radio this morning and he was impressive as hell. He was careful to note that this was directed at only radical Islam, not the moderates. When the host asked him what then did he expect moderate Muslims to do when he's burning THEIR holy book as well?

"The same thing Christians do when the Bible is burned - let it slide. Ignore it."

Well, why don't you try going to Saudi Arabia and burn the Koran there if you want to make a point?

"Because it's not possible to do it there. It's still possible to do it in America, where we have freedom of speech. That's the point."

Well, is this really the Christian thing to do?

"This is not a Christian outreach. This is a warning to radical Islamists that they have to respect our Constitution.

He elaborated on the dangers of Sharia law and how Europe was destroying itself by knuckling under to a totalitarian religion.

The host pointed out that Germany, Japan and Russia were totalitarian regimes ans we didn't bring them into the fold by stomping on their religions or cultures.

"Good point. We had to go to war against all these countries to halt their world domination plans. Dialogue doesn't work with these radical Islamists, either."

Sure, it's a stunt, but old boy was measured, rational and his logic was unassailable. Definitely not what I expected, which was a thick redneck accent thundering about the Hoor of Babylon.

116
You guys remember the last episode of DEADWOOD when they 'had to' kill one of the whores to appease RICK SIMON?

How long until our own govt is 'sacrifing' joos and infidels  to appease these monsters who should be living in caves?

117 I'm so glad I'm in such great shape that we have nothing better to talk about than some snake handler in a swamp.

Yessiree Bob. No problems here. Clear sailing.

118
They didn't have to kill the whore. It was so stupid. Ruined the series, imo.

119 Maybe the thing to do is offer Islamists a choice during the burning: They can impotently watch the Korans go up in flames, or they can douse the fire with the buckets of swine and dog urine located conveniently nearby.

I mean, that seems like a reasonable compromise....

120 Ace, we need some ground breaking journalism - Who is Mr. Kent? This man who controls the narrative. His background, who he reports to, perhaps he likes being the news as well - maybe a phone interview.

121

Sorry to go OT, but this is too good to pass up.  Chris Christie slams yet another teacher.  Epic:

http://tinyurl.com/2ffkpmb

Oh... my, that was ORGASMIC.  Good thing he goes the wrong way on abortion and the Ground Zero Mosque -- otherwise I'd have to drive to NJ and it would  be Christie/pants zipper some disassembly required

122 You know Burning Korans is starting to sound mighty attractive.

Especially when we're using them as kindling while we burn Margret Cho at the stake.

123 First they burnt Beatles records and I didn't care because I liked the Stones.
Then they burned disco records and I didn't care because I'm not ghey.
Now they are burning korans, but I have plenty of toilet paper.

Wake me when they get to busty lesbian pron.

Posted by: Atomic Roach

 

Surely, these are words of Moronic wisdom.

124
The 'stache is on with Megyn talking about the mosque issue. 

125 Ace, we need some ground breaking journalism - Who is Mr. Kent?

Does he like gladiator movies?  How up to date are his taxes?  Any bastard children?  How about cocks?  Is he into cocks?

126

Especially when we're using them as kindling while we burn Margret Cho at the stake.

Man, that could take days.

127 Burning a Koran is as bad as burning a Korean.

128

"My God, it's full of pussy"

Where ever that place is, I want to visit it and I've now added it to my bucket list.

129

Chris Christie slams yet another teacher.

Damn, we need a flaming fat man for that.

130 OT but important:  John "Mustache" Bolton just said he is thinking about running for president,  in order to get some focus on national security.

131 I will promise to not burn a Koran this Saturday if the Muslims will promise to not build the Ground Zero Victory Mosque.  

132

Especially when we're using them as kindling while we burn Margret Cho at the stake.

Man, that could take days.

I'd be disappointed if it didn't.

133 Why do they want to burn my crayon???

134

Damn, we need a flaming fat man for that.

Posted by: Mama AJ

 

Little known AoSHQ factoid: The flaming skulls employ Korans for fuel. Or was that Koreans? I'm confused.

135 "Especially when we're using them as kindling while we burn Margret Cho at the stake."

Marinate her overnight in pig fat and kerosine first - she'll burn brighter and longer that way.

136 People are starting to ask the simple question:  "Can a belief system which advocates harsh shari's laws and touts violence even be consider "a religion" by western standards?

137 Bolton for President, or stick it up your ass!

138 Willful cocksuckery.

139

If all this guy wants to do is make a point, why can't he make a pretend Koran and burn it in effegy?

It'd be the equivalent of a Middle Eastern demonstrator burning a homemade American flag (complete with 40 red stripes and 200 blue stars) like we see on the news.

140 we need to start investigating the opponents of this church.

141

"Religion of Peace" is not, repeat not, something that Muslims say. They don't deny that Islam is a compete social system that covers all aspects of life including going to war.

The only people who say R.O.P. are non-Muslim apologists. And, the hell with them.

 

142

The cat is out of the bag and there is nothing we can do except delay the inevitable. Burning books, especially a religious tome such as the QuÂ’ran is detestable and repugnant but it is LEGAL in the U.S.A.To burn any book or item as a political statement within local fire regulations.
Sure, we can Violate this individuals Constitutionally protected right to do so in deference to the dictates of the largely illiterate Muslim Masses world wide. But there will be copy cat QuÂ’ran burners and the match will be lit any way regardless.
We should get out of Af-Pak A.S.A.P. Our brave warriors are hamstrung by the R.O.E. that proscribe any hope of victory. Only the guaranteed increase in flag draped coffins returning home for their last trip. Under current conditions we are going to leave the country in chaos no matter what strategy our Military has short of all out war. We are fighting with rules that only Liberal anti-war academics can feel comfortable with while they drink their Chablis and eat their Brie, discussing the Socialist agenda they have planned for this great Nation.
Face facts on the ground. These people will find any excuse to hate us for all of our accomplishments.They are relentless in their objectives and the will be no won “hearts and minds” no matter what we do or say. This entire region used to have many Christian and Jewish and Bahai, Hindu, Buddhist and other faiths living there but all have left over the last 100 years due to persecution and taxation. The Educated classes flee as soon as they can and all you have left is people who only know one book, the Qu’ran. Their true colors come out over an event like this.
Just as a drunk says what he is really thinking with out inhibitions, those drunk with religious extremism express what they really think when imbibed with these calls to hate from their Imams.
There is no current “solution”, only separation.

Best wishes to all.

143 I spent countless hours during the Bush admin explaining patiently to idiot liberals that: "Criticism is not censorship, dumbshit"

Now I'm supposed to explain that to conservatives? Fucking Hell, people, grow a pair.

Jones is a brainless dumbshit, and if you think that statement violates the First Amendment, then so are you.

Could anything be more *desperately* ironic than someone claiming the right to be offensive and then expressing outrage that they're being criticized?

144 I'm torn about this.  Here's the thing, the best way to deal with attention whores is to ignore them.  Don't run the pictures, don't go to the press conferences, just shrug it off as the clear act of attention whoredom that it is.  Of course, that option is long past.  Since the media decided to pay attention, then hell yes run the pictures.

Of course, it would be lovely if the MFM decided to pay attention to things like the slaughter of Christians in the Muslim world.  I'm not going to hold my breath.

145 We really can't be having John Bolton running for President.  He is far too popular with the sort of people who normally vote for us.

146

Did you guys see the "Obama for Caliph!" story? 

No term limits, four wives, and booty (lots of booty).  

147

Asked and answered.

140

Little known AoSHQ factoid: The flaming skulls employ Korans for fuel. Or was that Koreans? I'm confused.

Posted by: Blue Hen at September 09, 2010 01:50 PM (R2fpr)

 

141 "Especially when we're using them as kindling while we burn Margret Cho at the stake."

148 http://bit.ly/bN4RZn to listen to the Terry Jones interview.

149 Marinate her overnight in pig fat and kerosine first - she'll burn brighter and longer that way.

Hmm, I was just thinking pitch.

I think this Koran Burning thing is playing out just the way the preacher wants. The whole country is starting to see the hypocrisy of the way the elites and media suck muslim cock.

150 139 Why do they want to burn my crayon???

Posted by: a crying 5 year old at September 09, 2010 01:50 PM (YVZlY)

Okay, now, *that's* teh funneh.

Thanks.

151 Jones is a brainless dumbshit, and if you think that statement violates the First Amendment, then so are you.

And you're a retard for criticizing him.  It's his private property.

152

I'm ready to burn some Korans myself.


Especially after seeing the picture of L Cpl Bernard that they insisted on showing.


red hued rage, warm the emptiness of my soul with your fires

153

Bolton would be popular with those racist teapartiers. He calls them like he sees them, and I appreciate his honesty and spine. He is the anti-politician.

154

Could anything be more *desperately* ironic than someone claiming the right to be offensive and then expressing outrage that they're being criticized?

Expressing outrage at being criticized is also protected by the First Amendment.

155 We Will Not Distribute Photos of Burning Korans
That's OK.  The alternative media has been doing your job for many years now.  At this point we fully expect you to do nothing but sit on the couch, drink beer, watch football, and consume oxygen.  No no no don't go get the mail, we don't want the neighbors to see you like this with your full depends and your cheesy poof stained shirt.  Hopefully you will slip into a diabetic comma soon so we can burn the couch and move on.

156 122
You guys remember the last episode of DEADWOOD when they 'had to' kill one of the whores to appease RICK SIMON?

How long until our own govt is 'sacrifing' joos and infidels  to appease these monsters who should be living in caves?

Posted by: bonerwing plover

 

Sh-h-h-h-h-h!! That's O's October surprise!

157 The Fat Man and The 'Stache, 2012.  Libtards' heads everywhere explode en mass.  Muzzies quiver in fear. 

Win-win.

158 BTW, does anyone else think that Islam holds the same place in the media with respect to Christianity as blacks hold with respect to whites. That is they can pretty much say anything about Christians and whites (especially the painting them in a bad light) but Muslims and blacks are almost always put in a good light.

159

Someone tell this to the City Council in Hartford, which has decided to have muslim opening prayers at its meeting.   It's not like they have a huge muslim population or anything.  they are doing it the same reason that town out in Oregon or Washington(i forget) is having a mexican independence day celebration paid for by the town, but they've never had one for July 4. Because they ruling class, or self styled elites know that it pissed people like us off. The best way to be elite is to take the EXACT opposite side of common sense or public opinion. I cannot think of any other explaination.

 

Why else would Gay groups (the political interest groups, not groups that are simply gay like the Dallas Cowboys) support Palistine or Iran? Or women's rights groups?  It makes no sense. Why side with someone who would slit your throat?

 

160 Herr Morgenholz, all good questions, offer him a commemorative cup of pudding.

161

Frankly, I donÂ’t think the president, or Patreaus, should have addressed the proposed book burning at all. It makes us look weak and makes it look like the U.S. is giving special dispensation to Islam.

Every time there is something controversial done regarding christianity, does the President or other high-ranking american official apologize in advance? What about other offensive conduct? Particularly when this is such a small scale event – a tiny church with a handful of followers.

Our official reaction to this – before it even happens – signals that our national policy is that we are afraid of muslims and will do anything we can to avoid offending them. This is not the right policy at all. this actually reinforces to the muslim world that their policy of violence and threats of violence is working (I will not say “radical” as it is the mainstream muslim world we are at odds with – the “moderates” are the minority and therefore the radicals within islam)

This event should have been ignored by the President. Or, if asked about it, he should simply have said that Americans have the freedom of speech and left it at that.

In fact, to take this further, I started as being opposed to the koran burning as silly and offensive for no reason. I am now growing to support the koran burning because it is illustrating a number of important things:

a) muslims are looking for an excuse to engage in violence; and

b) america is further down the path to dhimnitude than I even believed. Islam is being treated as above all other things – something that America as a whole must venerate and avoid giving offense to. So important that General Patreaus and President Obama must grovel to the muslim world in pre-apology for the act of some 30 citizens of a nation of 300+ million.

If I am caught on tape burning a koran tomorrow, will the President immediately give an interview condemning my action?  Probably.   I'm beginning to think we need to have a koran burning day where hundreds of korans are burned at hundreds of locations across the country, just to prove a point.  I'm beginning to think that the nutty reverend is right.  Just becasue he is a nut doesn't mean he can't be right about this.

162 Me: Prove to me you are not a murderous cult.

Muzzies:  I will kill you for saying that.

AP:  We will not report the muzzie response.

163 What happens if they burn the Korans out of clear sight?

164 Muslims are burning bibles in the U.S. ?  I did not know that.

OUR MILITARY is burning bibles in Afghanistan for Muslims there.

165 The same thing Christians do when the Bible is burned - let it slide. Ignore it."

Empire of Jeff at September 09, 2010 01:45 PM (ACkZp)

Muslims are burning bibles in the U.S. ?  I did not know that.

Anyway, if someone decides they want to burn a bible or a flag in front of me, I guarantee you this Christian would not ignore it.

_______________________________________________________

Bible burning? Hell, entire church buildings get burned down.

166

"The same thing Christians do when the Bible is burned - let it slide. Ignore it."

Empire of Jeff at September 09, 2010 01:45 PM (ACkZp)

Muslims are burning bibles in the U.S. ?  I did not know that.

Anyway, if someone decides they want to burn a bible or a flag in front of me, I guarantee you this Christian would not ignore it.

 

Ace,

How about the fact that the Palistinians often desecrate the Church of the Nativity? We don't see the pope raising legions to invade when that happens, or telling his followers to kill them.

This isn't just a problem in America, this is a problem in all Western nations. By western I don't mean geographically, but simply liberal democracies.

167

Sorry to go OT, but this is too good to pass up.  Chris Christie slams yet another teacher.  Epic:

http://tinyurl.com/2ffkpmb

HE is KICK ASS!

168 @ 146, sure - there'll be no Muslim outrage from pretending to burn the Koran. That would be as ridiculous as riots and murders over a drawing of Mohammed.

169

Islam is a religion of war. According to Muslims themselves.

G.W. Bush said what he thought he had to say. "Religion of peace" was a falsehood promoted by our handlers to manage us, not something promoted by Muslims themselves.

170 I'm seeing a sequel to "The Book of Eli" somewhere in all of this. Only this time he/she really does go Mad Max on everyone.

171 Baptists go on burning, killing rampage. making cookies, pies and casseroles and praying rampage.  Dude, I was raised Baptist.  I know Our Ways. 

Why else would Gay groups (the political interest groups, not groups that are simply gay like the Dallas Cowboys)

I lol'd.  I did. 

172 Why side with someone who would slit your throat?

Enemy of my Enemy is my friend. Remember what the libtards want: The Destruction of the American Constitution and way of life. Then things get very clear very fast.

173

Frankly, I donÂ’t think the president, or Patreaus, should have addressed the proposed book burning at all. It makes us look weak and makes it look like the U.S. is giving special dispensation to Islam.

 

I was extremely bothered by Patreaus being involved.  I just can't imagine a military leader ever saying this to ANYONE else.

Allah made a good point when this came out, would a general ever tell anti war protesters to stop protesting because the appearance of internal division over a war only emboldened the enemies and resulted in more troop deaths? Of course not.

I understand what this jackass is doing is stupid, but it bothers me that the military would get involved. The military needs to stay out of politics.

174

Let me get this straight ...

Most Muslims are "moderates" ... (or so I'm told by my betters ...)

Burning Korans will cause some of these "moderate" Muslims to become radical Muslims ...

Is that about right ?

So all it takes to turn some "moderate" Muslims into radicals is to burn the Koran ...

Gee, I thought all it took was access to weapons and a proximity to Jews ...

Seems like some of those "moderate" Muslims are ready to go radical at any moment ...  seems like the distance between being a moderate and a radical is pretty short ...

175 Megyn must be following this blog.  Now she's talking about Barky calling the pastor. 

176 A dead Moslem is a good Moslem.

177 166 BTW, does anyone else think that Islam holds the same place in the media with respect to Christianity as blacks hold with respect to whites. That is they can pretty much say anything about Christians and whites (especially the painting them in a bad light) but Muslims and blacks are almost always put in a good light.

Oh I know it.

178 sock

179 The news is saying that Obama is considering sending the pastor to the camps via a "personal cease and desist order"

180 Dear Lord.  The State Dept. has issued a warning for all U.S. citizens abroad in light of the Koran burning. 

Religion of peace my ass.

181 "Baptists go on burning, killing rampage. making cookies, pies and casseroles and praying rampage.  Dude, I was raised Baptist.  I know Our Ways. "

Careful with the casserole talk - we don't want riots to erupt over chicken and broccoli -vs- squash and crushed ritz crackers.  *shudders*

182 I have to assume that everyone in the "pro-book burning" camp has access to Amazon.com and a book of matches available. I wonder how many will follow Jones' lead and participate in Int'l Burn A Koran Day? I drew a pic of Mohammed for EDMD, and it was rather liberating, even though it was just a stick figure.

183 The "moderate Muslim" is quite as volatile as liquid nitroglycerin. One little shake and BOOM, he starts self detonating, and taking as many with him as possible.....apparently.

184 Careful with the casserole talk - we don't want riots to erupt over chicken and broccoli -vs- squash and crushed ritz crackers.

This is a fair point.  Churches have split over this matter. 

185 187 The news is saying that Obama is considering sending the pastor to the camps via a "personal cease and desist order" I just saw Gibbs on TV. Talk about giving this Jones guy everything he wants. He's got the world by a string right now.

186
We must burn the koran
Burn it I say,
Burn it all night
Burn it all day
Burn it with candles
Burn it with glasses
Burn it with gas
From farting pig's asses
Then take a look
Please show me, please
Where o where
Is the Religion of Peace?

187 They're not arguing that the church shouldn't do this because it's insensitive.

They're arguing that the church shouldn't do this because people will be violent.  At best, it's blackmail.  At worst, it's terrorism.

Could anything be more *desperately* ironic than someone claiming the right to be offensive and then expressing outrage that they're being criticized?

I don't think Jones is expressing outrage that he's being criticized.  Indeed, he expected it, that's the whole purpose of the stunt.

188

I posted this little piece of love and tolerance in another threads comments:

Screw this shit. It's time to raise the cover change for this little party, they want to bitch and cry about something....NUKE MECCA then Tehran cause they will have the bomb soon and they will use it, and then Pakistan just because. These people are not going to stop until they have killed or conquered us so why wait.

The time has come for us to grow a pair and put an end to this bullshit once and for all.. We should have done this along time ago but Carter was too much of a pussy and those that followed him took thier eye off the ball.

189 I like it when the "muslim street explodes" and they burn down their own houses. I think its funny.

190 Would it be wrong of me to say that I think Islam SUCKS and should just go away?  It's like that annoying friend that comes over every time you have people over, eats all your food, drinks all your beer, messes up your bathroom, then sets off a charge that blows up your house and if it doesn't kill you, you get screwed by your insurance because suicide bombers just aren't covered by your current policy.

191 Ever notice how few Muslim streets are paved?

192 @198

Yeah, just like when they fire their weapons into the air, not even contemplating the injuries/deaths that might occur when the rounds fall from the sky.  No wonder there have been so few Nobel prizes for physics awarded to Muzzies....

193 So someone in the Osama Obama regime is going to "talk to" the idiot "pastor" down in Florida?

Why wouldn't any of the Traitor-in-Chief's co-conspirators "talk to" Imam Rauf, and tell him that what he is trying to do might cause "unrest" in the U.S.A.?

Simple. The Muzzies -- including the Muslim Mouthpiece -- are banking on the basic decency of Americans. And, sad to say, the laziness of Americans too long lost in the fog of freedom without responsibility.

If Barry Soetoro wants to do something right (impossible, I know), he will place two calls, one to "pastor" Jones and one to Rauf, telling both to change their plans.

194 From Richard Fernandez's Belmont Club:  The Three Conjectures.

195

I was extremely bothered by Patreaus being involved.  I just can't imagine a military leader ever saying this to ANYONE else.

Allah made a good point when this came out, would a general ever tell anti war protesters to stop protesting because the appearance of internal division over a war only emboldened the enemies and resulted in more troop deaths? Of course not.

I agree.

What about the whole gay "marriage" and DADT debates? Muslims kill homosexuals over there. You can bet Obama doesn't care if a picture of two men in lip lock getting hitched is broadcast throughout the world. Or that it may incite violence against our troops.

196 187 The news is saying that Obama is considering sending the pastor to the camps via a "personal cease and desist order"


I just saw Gibbs on TV. Talk about giving this Jones guy everything he wants. He's got the world by a string right now.

Posted by: Lincolntf

 

Forget the Korans. he should wipe his ass with the imperial decree form the Dear Leader. Then he can hold a contest to stack the Korans into interesting shapes, like playhouses for kids, and superglue them together. They're unburnt, which is more than can be said about those bibles in US military custody, unflushed, and providing a service making little kiddies happy.

 

That should be a win/ win thing right? Maybe he could do it at 'not-quite' ground zero, since it supposedly doesn't matter.

P.S. This pastor can add himself to the list of people who have taken the nickel tour and temporary lodgings inside Obama's cranium.

197 Careful with the casserole talk - we don't want riots to erupt over chicken and broccoli -vs- squash and crushed ritz crackers.  *shudders*

Posted by: Intrepid at September 09, 2010 02:02 PM (92zkk)

Don't forget about me!

198 Simple. The Muzzies -- including the Muslim Mouthpiece -- are banking on the basic decency of Americans. And, sad to say, the laziness of Americans too long lost in the fog of freedom without responsibility.

Posted by: MrScribbler at September 09, 2010 02:10 PM (Ulu3i)

Exactly.  This willingness to tolerate abuse is a weakness we can no longer afford.  The idea of America turning out like Europe is sickening.

199 Oh, come on, Obama! Bring on the eminent domain and take over the church property and the pastor's home! Either piss or get off the damn pot. Stop shadow-boxing here. Defend your Holy-shit Koran! This would be so much better than some bow to the Saudi prince!

200

 You can bet Obama doesn't care if a picture of two men in lip lock getting hitched is broadcast throughout the world.

Well, as long as I'm not one of them.........

201 O/T:  Anyone else find it fascinating that hillary has apparently recently made "the speech of her career" and the "inconvenient truth guy" probably an ardent support of algore?  Both coming out with stuff now, right before the election.  And guys like rendel complaining on fox, not going along to get along (as I recall, wasn't he hillary's head cheeerleader?)   Oh and how come they are sending a bowing larry summers to China for diplomacy.  The economics guys go for the diplomacy now and hillary stays home?  something is definitely up.

202 Other people have remarked upon the perverse incentives here: If Christians want their faith taken seriously, and respected by institutions and the government, apparently they'll just have to start bombing and beheading and they'll have that.

Part of me thinks the libs want this, then they'd have their excuse to crack down on all Christians and conservative leaning religions.

203

To these assholes, the world is Peaksville and islam is Anthony Fremont.

"It's a good thing that you want that mosque at ground zero, islam. Very good."

"It's wrong that they want to hurt your favorite book, islam. Very wrong. You did good to threaten retaliation. Very good."

What they don't understand is that, sooner or later, little Anthony will wish us all into the cornfield.

204 Posted by: Iblis at September 09, 2010 02:18 PM (9221z)

The poor congregation of the Orthodox church that WAS ALREADY at ground zero have been trying for years to get permission from bloomberg and all the minions to just rebuild their church and they have gotten no where.  People, knowing about this are pretty pissed that bloomie greased the skids for 9/11 mosque boy and yet has trounced the church folk at every turn.  My God, nyers are actually beginning to wonder if bloomie is anti christian. out loud.

205

You know, the more I'm told that Burn a Koran Day is a bad idea, the more I'm comfortable with it.  Partly, it's the people telling me it is a bad idea.  Partly, it is the reasons they are claiming it is a a bad idea.  And partly it is the inconsistency of the reasons provided by the people. 

In short, the people telling me this is bad are the people who I think "fuck you" every time they open their mouth. 

And the Koran burning does very noticeably put to lie the "religion of peace."  I have no respect for the lunatic ravings of a child-molesting warmonger, or any of his petulant, backwards disciples. 

That was all stream of consciousness-y.  I apologize.  It's weird.  I've never had anything except disgust for book-burning or book-burners, but I suppose I dislike the Islamic apologists more. 

206 Ending the multi-decades-long dominance of petro-dollars in US politics will be the most dramatic war of independence since 1776. Real energy solutions are the number one priority for our national security. Obama and Democrats want to sell us out to OPEC. Some Republicans would be happy to go along with this agenda. We need a courageous leader with bold ideas who will take a stand for this country without apologies.

207 maddogg - paving makes the open sewers easier to avoid, thus are haram.

208 It's not petraeus...he's too wishy washy for my tastes.

209 Part of me thinks the libs want this, then they'd have their excuse to crack down on all Christians and conservative leaning religions.

Posted by: Iblis at September 09, 2010 02:18 PM (9221z)

They'd better hope, for their own sakes, that they never push it that far. 

210 213, St Stevens, right amazing the AP hasn't covered that story

211
The poor congregation of the Orthodox church that WAS ALREADY at ground zero have been trying for years to get permission from bloomberg and all the minions to just rebuild their church and they have gotten no where.  People, knowing about this are pretty pissed that bloomie greased the skids for 9/11 mosque boy and yet has trounced the church folk at every turn.  My God, nyers are actually beginning to wonder if bloomie is anti christian. out loud.

Posted by: . at September 09, 2010 02:22 PM (p302b)

I've posted about this over at ABCNews, in their articles about the mosque and it mysteriously disappears.

212 Where have I been lately?

213 Every time they murder in the name of Allah, then, the leftists collectively begin shouting how wonderfully fucking peaceful Allah is.

Fixed.

214 Seriously you guys can't tell the difference in cause and effect between burning the Koran and our tolerance of homosexuality?

Are you asking us, infidel?

215 Yes. All book burning is bad. All books have value, like kiddie porn rape fantasies, lies about global warming, and those FUCKING Shopaholic novels. Nooosireee, musn't burn any of those fucking literary treasures.

216 My God, nyers are actually beginning to wonder if bloomie is anti christian. out loud.

Are they really? My husband was perplexed by the latest Holocaust / Ground Zero mosque issue of New York magazine. Maybe New Yorkers are starting to wonder about the Mayor, who told the emotional story of how his parents went through their Christian lawyer as a front when moving into their WASP-y MA neighborhood. That set off a bell for me.

217 You can be a crusader that despises all that is Islam and still think that burning Korans is a stupid stunt that should be ridiculed and condemned.  Again, we don't have to be like them to win.

Apparently, we do, since our military is burning bibles so they won't be offended.

218 "You can be a crusader that despises all that is Islam and still think that burning Korans is a stupid stunt that should be ridiculed and condemned. " Count me in. I'm starting to think (just from the news snippets online) that the odds of him actually burning them are going down. But, I wonder if he has unwittingly (or mad genius-style) created a little army of book burners around the country to do it for him.

219 All books have value, like kiddie porn rape fantasies, lies about global warming, and those FUCKING Shopaholic novels.

Ha! I got into that fight on a thread about Meghan McCain's new book. Leno snarked you could slide it under the door, if you forgot to order your copy. So, some stupid troll was saying that lots of literary masterpieces were under 200 pages... Old Man and the Sea, Death in Venice, The Great Gatsby.

220 Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at September 09, 2010 02:33 PM (mHQ7T)

The comment is usually made in connection with the phrase "something told me that a third term wasn't a good idea and that the law was put there for a reason, I shouldn't have been so complacent"....

lot of guilty nyer's about this third term.....it seems mike has had a complete personality change...

it's the power

221 225 Yes. All book burning is bad. All books have value, like kiddie porn rape fantasies, lies about global warming, and those FUCKING Shopaholic novels. Nooosireee, musn't burn any of those fucking literary treasures.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at September 09, 2010 02:31 PM (CpbMn)

Well said.  I've a few titles in mind that can go on the pyre.  There is nothing redeeming in the Koran.  Nothing to suggest it should not be put to the torch.  If this merry bon fire moves up the schedule for our final show down with the muslims, so much the better.

Of course, the American public schools are working day and night to make sure our kids can't read ANY books, so eventually the book burning will no longer be worth doing.

222 I think Rush has been hanging at the HQ and WZ.

223 Ace: You sure Lauraw didn't say Pussy is full of Ace these days? That would be quite a complement. Unless she really was referring to cats. If so, sue her!

224

But, I wonder if he has unwittingly (or mad genius-style) created a little army of book burners around the country to do it for him.

I was just thinking that very thing.  I may have my own private Koran burning on Saturday.

225 Posted by: jewells at September 09, 2010 02:39 PM (l/N7H)

I have noticed threads on several blogs I read, not just political sites, asking if you are planning to burn said book.  fascinating answers they are getting.

226

 Whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn to him the other also. [Matthew 5:39]  

Uh... hey Christians... what happens when they then hit you on the other cheek???  You are kinda out of cheeks.... so can you pull ou the Holy Handgrenade of Antioch then?

 

Cause folks... we are out of cheeks here...

227 Posted by: Romeo13 at September 09, 2010 02:49 PM (H+oXM)

well you know benny's not a light weight..

he could always opt to repeat history

228 O/T:  (via drudge):  "Court blocks PA town's immigration law; rules feds have 'exclusive power'..."

229

226 - polynikes

I'm not so sure, that's my problem.  It really is a conflict of values I haven't worked over to my satisfaction.  Like I said, I find no value in Islam.  Even if in theory it was an OK religion, in practice, every place it dominates is a shithole.  I always predicated my distaste for book-burning on (what I thought of) as the classical liberal idea that all ideas should enjoy debate in the public sphere and that book-burning was a debate-suppressant. 

These days, I'm more inclined to demand that things, people, ideas, etc. prove their value before I just freely assume they have value (but everything needs to get a fair shake in proving itself) i.e. Objectivist.  The Koran even asks me to give it value in spite of serious evidence that it in fact has negative value.  If something has no value, I can't justify caring what happens to it.  If something has negative value, I can't condemn removing it.  I know this is all terribly epistemically immodest, but I also don't think I should try to act as a rational being only to throw my conclusions to the wind because everything deserves to have value.  If it deserves value, earn it!  If it can't, then it has no value. 

230 Bring de ambulamps. But first I keel you!

231 From the linked Hitchens essay From my window, I can see the beautiful minaret of the Washington, D.C., mosque on Massachusetts Avenue. It is situated at the heart of the capital city's diplomatic quarter, and it is where President Bush went immediately after 9/11 to make his gesture toward the "religion of peace." A short while ago, the wife of a new ambassador told me that she had been taking her dog for a walk when a bearded man accosted her and brusquely warned her not to take the animal so close to the sacred precincts. Stuff like this jacks my blood pressure up. I'm a REAL tolerant guy. But the jokers keep pulling crap like this will find we have limits - and they won't like what happens when we snap.

232 Unless you take the view that Muslims are like dogs or infants who are unable to control themselves, no one is "causing" them to riot. They can control their actions despite any justifiable emotion stirred up by the Koran burning, and any death or destruction that ensues is solely the fault of the Muslims who do it and the Islamic teachers who have told them that such things are justifiable when they in fact are not; this pastor is NOT "causing" any of it.

233 He was raised in Shaker Heights, Ohio

That explains it. Too many drugs in Coventry while his brain was still developing. Now, Kucinich is his Congressman back home.

234

We now continue with our regularly scheduled appeasment of Islam, stay tuned until 2018 when we have a couple of smoking radioactive craters where NYC and D.C. used to be, then Americans will give themselves permission to actually treat Islam the way it is begging for us to treat it.  Until then remember ISLAM IS A RELIGION OF PEACE!!!

235 lot of guilty nyer's about this third term.....it seems mike has had a complete personality change...

The alternative was Democratic candidate Bill Thompson. Bloomberg pushes this Independent, buck the status quo thing, though it came out later he made a deal to support the KSM trials downtown, if Obama wouldn't stump for his opponent. Giuliani once endorsed Bloomberg, who ran as a Republican in his first term. The state GOP in NY is a total disaster. The Democrats have been working up Bloomberg for a while.

236 Posted by: Jehu at September 09, 2010 03:10 PM (sCJZb)

I heard some DJs on a Canadian show reading The Sun on air, and they said Russians have a time machine and predicted US currency would have Arabic on it by 2025.

237 I have always respected Gen P, but I agree he should have let this go by, just puts more attention on this guy. I agree its (burnin the myth book) a stupid thing to do, but at what point do we quit worrying about the muslim "street". They are always mad about everything.

238 249 Frothing rage,


General P has gone native whether through Stockholm Syndrome, executive order, or choice.

239

All book burning is bad.

Is freeing up memory on a Kindle akin to burning an actual book?

Why can't the protesters in Florida just download the Koran and then hold their data cards in front of a magnet?

240

OT:

Just saw at Diana West's website: the judge in the military/birth certificate case said due to "embarrassment" to Obama which might be caused by production it will not be allowed or requested. 

Yes, embarrassment. 

Also, she has the US military Quran regs.  Gloves, respect, yadda, yadda. 

Islam is our de facto established religion.  From NASA to State to Gitmo to DHS meeting with (if not hiring) all the Ikhwan spokesliars.   

241 "Muslim Activist Calls for “Burn the Stars and Stripes Day”'

242

All book burning is bad.

Is freeing up memory on a Kindle akin to burning an actual book?

Why can't the protesters in Florida just download the Koran and then hold their data cards in front of a magnet?

Posted by: FireHorse

 

Winner of the thread and of the day.

243 254,

we call that "a day that ends in -day" where I come from....

screw Islam

244 @233 Do you not see the giant double standard there? Aren't you the one sayinv burning a book is bad? Our military burns the Bible! Why aren't you criticizing them?

245 That crap about islam being a "great" religion needs to go. It's a big religion but by any reasonable standard it never comes close to be a "great" religion. It pissed me off to hear GWB parrot that line and it still pisses me off whenever it pops out of anybody else's pie hole. islam is a gutter religion. Always has been and always will be.

246 Hannity is DRILLING some muzzie on his radio program right now.

Asking her to say that Mecca should be open to non-muslims (she won't) and asking her to condemn Hamas (she won't).

247 A commenter on Weasel Zippers suggested that we should tell Obama that we will burn a Koran a day until he releases his school records and birth certificate.  Since it was decided today that he is not required to show his birth certificate in the Lt. Col. Lakin case, maybe threatening the "holy  koran" would work.

248

Since I asked you first, do you think we should be criticizing them or as I originally posit, be enraged by it?

I know my position.  I would just like to see how you will attempt to spin out of yours since you've trapped yourself.

What the fuck are you talking about?  I've trapped myself?

The military can't burn holy books then turn around and say we, the public, shouldn't burn different holy books.

I am outraged that the military thinks burning bibles is appropriate but not korans, because it is a value judgement and the message is that threatening violence means that your holy book is more important than a peaceful people's.

And guess what?  Being outraged is okay.  Killing people isn't.  Killing people is what Muslims do when they are outraged.

249

OK, we had another shout out today from Chairman Zero, aimed at the Umma, telling all that he is celebrating with them on their wonderful feast day, this being the end of Ramadan.  Whatever.  Wasn't the feast day of the beginning of it given the beneficence of His presence at the all-Muzzie dinner in NYC?

I'll want to check my copy of the book, wait, let me get it out of the woodstove . . . to see when the next holy-day is, Islamically.

Where was King They-Talk-About-Me-Like-A-Dog on the feast of Easter, for the Christian faiths, or the Assumption, for which most of the EU states have a national holiday?  The Latter Day Saints certainly have some special days, what about them?

And what about the Jews?  Do special proclamations go out from the WH on the occasions of the special and holy days?  Maybe He should be asking Bibi about this, stick some dates into his Blackberry.

 

250 They kill us, and we then proselytize on their behalf.

Somebody has had management classes beyond the 300 level.

Whatever the exhibited behavior, if you reward it, you get more of it. If that behavior appears negative to your way of thinking, too bad.

Monster, I name you, NEGATIVE REINFORCEMENT!

251 @259, a point of order sir, the mohammedans worship and kill for a half human moon god.

That sir, is no religion. Cult maybe, but not religion.

252 If it is such a bad thing to destroy the koran, jus use them to armor the hummvees. Then the bastards shooting and bombing uswould have to stop. Maybe we could make some koran undies too...

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