May 23, 2010

Artists, Quit Your Day Job! (tmi3rd)
— Open Blogger

So, after Nancy Pelosi's remark that artists can quit their day jobs to concentrate on being artists, I figured I'd weigh in... as an artist who's walking away from the profession towards something more normal and relatively more lucrative. Don't worry, the link is to MKH's column in the Examiner. More below the fold... As many of you know, for the last ten years, I've been a professional opera singer, doing the equivalent of playing in the AA and AAA minor leagues of the profession. I'm now trying to get into medical school (great timing, I know).

So why punch out of the business? A few reasons: for starters, even though I love what I do as a singer, it sure as hell doesn't pay for itself in the minors. Now add on a wife, a delightful dog, and a brand new baby, and life just got more expensive.

One of the things that doesn't get mentioned doing most of the jobs in the arts is the copious amount of time one spends on the road. To give you some idea, 2008 was my most successful year (8 gigs in TN, TX, AR, WI, LA, NY), and I spent well over six months on the road. And, of course, to hell with the expense- being on the road that long with so little time home makes me feel like an absentee husband, to say nothing of being an absentee father. There are more, but this post isn't supposed to be another episode of This Is Your Life. Bottom line- I made more money than I've ever made in the business, and still had to maintain my day job in TV news in order to keep the bills paid.

That's not unique to me- I have more than a few friends who sing at the Metropolitan Opera of New York who still have to keep their temp jobs in order to pay the bills. Many singers I know who are world-class have given up on living in NYC (even though that's where all the auditions are) because it's just too damned expensive.

So how does this apply to health care?

It varies from gig to gig. For instance, on Broadway, you have to belong to Actors' Equity- one of the few unions that actually accomplishes anything- and they provide health and unemployment benefits. These are the requirements to get into Equity- you'll notice that it's rather subjective, as you typically can't audition for Equity work unless you're already Equity! If you belong to AFTRA (that's the TV/radio union) or AGMA (the completely useless opera singers' union), you can buy your way into Equity.

So if you're already playing high AAA ball or in the majors, you can solve a lot of your problems that way. Roughly 5% of performing artists do this or have the option of doing this (and that includes the orchestral and stage hand unions). Unfortunately, if you're playing in a band, if you're a visual artist, and so forth, that isn't really an option until you crack into the majors.

Take away the need for benefits and what are you left with? Well, there's still the problem of paying rent... transportation... food... clothing... and all of life's usual expenses. So what can you realistically expect to make on solid minor league gigs?

The typical contract in opera, for a three-week rehearsal, two-performance engagement for a major role in a AA-level house is about $2K-$3K (we call those Level III and IV houses). That's for a title role (Figaro in Barber of Seville, for example). So let's say you're on the road for three weeks and home for one... in order to keep your bills paid, you'd pretty much either have to go from one big gig to another (and believe you me, you have to be be the flavor of the month to do that), or have a day job at home. That's before even thinking about getting sick, having a retirement fund, or anything else. And, as any of you who've lived in NYC know, that just ain't enough money to live on.

So what? Well, it's just another cheerful fisking of the BS that spills out of Nancy's mouth. Yea, verily, she knows not of what she speaks, even being from Berkeley. Not that any of you needed help to figure that out- it just helps to keep firing facts at the problem.

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1 Nancy is always off key

Posted by: scif at May 23, 2010 04:46 PM (TqLxU)

2
Democrats want as many people as possible on health care "reform".
...otherwise know as welfare.

Health care reform = welfare.


Posted by: Lemon Kitten at May 23, 2010 04:47 PM (0fzsA)

3 Nancy channeling Todd Rundgren. I don't want to work, I want to bang on the drum all day.

Posted by: elliot m at May 23, 2010 04:52 PM (RB5UU)

4 Blah blah blah

Posted by: dfdfd at May 23, 2010 04:55 PM (jHNjB)

5 As a music teacher (choir and band) I can't think how many times I've given a similar speech. A career in performance is no way to make a living unless you're at the top of the game. Or marry into money. That's why I teach. Make music, have fun, still get paid.

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at May 23, 2010 04:56 PM (iJrbB)

6 Where is this free health care anyway?

Posted by: kansas at May 23, 2010 04:57 PM (2kVkH)

7 Come into my shop,
Let me cut your mop,
S-o-o-o-o-o daintily.

Posted by: andycanuck at May 23, 2010 04:58 PM (7b1Uc)

8 Ditto that, Open Blogger, from a fellow (part-time now) artist.

Google Gladwell's Late Bloomers in the New Yorker. He explains it all. Mostly, you need a patron (rich spouse, top of the game, as Walter says).

Posted by: PJ at May 23, 2010 04:58 PM (dLFNL)

9 I just quit my job as an engineer to pursue a career as a tap dancer.  I have never tapped before so I will need some financial aid to take some classes.  With "free" welfare, food stamps and health-care I don't need to make myself useful to survive.

There are other benefits too.  My wife and I combined pay about $40,000  per year in taxes so we will be saving a lot of money by not working.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at May 23, 2010 04:59 PM (IqfKc)

10 Where is this free health care anyway?
In Canada, but my niece who's been out of art college for a couple of years and is a sculptress, oddly enough, still needs a regular job too.

Posted by: andycanuck at May 23, 2010 05:00 PM (7b1Uc)

11 Anthony Corleone  found a gig in Sicily. Maybe opera is more appreciated in Italy.

Posted by: bergerbilder at May 23, 2010 05:03 PM (S1Ttj)

12 Tap dancing? Anyone can tap dance. It's all in those shoes.

Posted by: frank costanza at May 23, 2010 05:03 PM (7b1Uc)

Posted by: sickinmass at May 23, 2010 05:16 PM (tamie)

14

The times have changed. For the worse. I play drums. For 30 years, I played, sashayed, most all music styles at weddings, funerals, every Honky Tonk and bar. Within a one hundred mile plus area. The best pay came from the county fair gigs. We might have made 200.00 each for four of us rolling in about 4 hours before the start time. wait to set up. then unload the van onto the stage. more wait. Soundcheck. goofs. soundcheck again.

Then play the gig.

With every imaginable ass giving your band an opionion.

4 or more hours

do you do Freebird?

Then you pack it all up, and head home.

No, It nearlly cost me the 200 dollars I made.

I used to do it for pleasure.

And I wont do it again for free health care.

 

Posted by: Woolie at May 23, 2010 05:30 PM (aNQ2S)

15 I am in the arts also. I have, however (even recently) been a driver of 18 wheeler trucks and forklifts. Oddly, I used to do that for a living before I went full time in the arts. The recent truck driving? Volunteer at summer band camp, driving the truck carrying the orchestra instruments. The other guys doing it wrecked the trucks before I did it. At least I got us all there in one piece.

Posted by: rawmuse at May 23, 2010 05:34 PM (ND6O6)

16

What's the diffrence between a rock drummer and a large pizza?

 

A Large pizza can feed a family of four..

 

Thank you, try the veal.

Posted by: KZnextzone at May 23, 2010 05:37 PM (veaqz)

17 Ehh so now you're going to med school, while you're already a husband and father?  Not planning that very well either.

Posted by: Monica at May 23, 2010 05:40 PM (23Bcl)

18

It soulnds like Tmi3rd might be Mike Rowe of a few years ago.

 

Posted by: Max Entropy at May 23, 2010 05:44 PM (7FgWm)

19 I know a lot of people who are Serious Artists of one sort or another, and two things stand out about most of them:

1) They're usually broke.  Can't sell enough art, too busy "being an Artist" to hold a job for more than a few weeks.

2) They're terrible.  No real talent, 99% of their work is painfully derivative of art styles that were popular ten to twenty years ago (when their college art teachers were in their prime), and not even well executed.

...and yes, every single one of the untalented types think that the government should support the arts to an insane degree - even to the point of "if someone says they want to do art for a living, they should get it paid for by the government."

Posted by: cirby at May 23, 2010 05:46 PM (47tHT)

20 Haven't been on here in a while, but for those who didn't meet me at any meetups I'm one of the young'ns who browses the site - currently in college for art. I'm one of those dirty sell-outs, also known as illustrators. And even though I've prolly got a better chance of making money than most other art majors, I know I'm gonna need a day job, especially with the economy trending the way it is. Anyway, short version - screw you Nancy. It's too bad I'd have a hell of a time finding anyone to buy the very easy-to-create caricatures I could draw of you.

Posted by: Revvy at May 23, 2010 06:04 PM (e7DN9)

21 Art schools do a poor job of explaining to students how to make money in their profession.   Artists share with news people the idea that they should be paid for insulting the public,  because they are convinced that to do something comercially viable is "selling out."

Meanwhile,  the contemporary artist most people know by name is Thomas Kincaid, the painter of cottages with one lantern lit and some misty smoke coming from the chimney.  It's doesn't measure well against Raphael,  but I don't think Kincaid cares as long as he's got money in the bank (some ill-gotten from fleecing rubes).  Still,  he was as great a marketer as Oprah,  if you ask me.

Art students and music students need the facts before they declare a major.  Unfortunately,  they won't get that from the colleges and universities.

Posted by: Miss Marple (redneck teabagger) at May 23, 2010 06:04 PM (xxe/9)

22 Wow,  Revvy,  we posted at the same time,  and you are backing me up.  (Parent of an art school grad here.  She went back to get a masters in another profession so she could get a job.)

If she had gone into illustrating she would have had a better chance,  but she wanted fine arts because it was "pure."

Personally,  I am sorry we didn't send her to business school.

Posted by: Miss Marple (redneck teabagger) at May 23, 2010 06:07 PM (xxe/9)

23 The new Enhanced Police  have pretty much killed the after dark folks who want to drive home. From anywhere. Youve had a drinky or two? Get in the car. Downtown we go. I got a quota to fullfill and we knead bread.

Posted by: Woolie at May 23, 2010 06:09 PM (aNQ2S)

24 Revvy, I'm one of these folks who believes that arts degrees are worth something- they just don't always pay for themselves within the major.

Most artists I encounter wind up with a Master's degree or a doctorate so that they can teach as their day job. My master's degree taught me that I hated teaching, but I parlayed other skills into TV news. Then I realized I couldn't trust a lot of what we were putting out as news.

Anyway, what I tell my individual students is that they're going to need a skill extraneous to their major to make a living unless they score big on a gig. That said, artist to artist- please let me know (my handle at Hotmail) if there's any guidance I can provide. My brother is another visual artist (he does more oils than anything else), and his master's is in arts education... he teaches and coaches football.

Larger basis- I think folks should follow their nose and go with what they're good at- with the caveat that they know they won't necessarily make a living at it.

Posted by: tmi3rd at May 23, 2010 06:45 PM (WRtsc)

25 Good luck, Revvy. Especially as you recognize the snobbishness of the "true artistes" sneering at the ordinary working-Joes, like illustrators.

Posted by: andycanuck at May 23, 2010 07:17 PM (7b1Uc)

26

"The world is wrong, and Man's a shit/and that is all there is to it

It always happens that way/it always happens that way

And nothing much will help a lot/and you can toss it in the pot."

   --Brecht, who didn't make it Hollywood (oh boy didn't he), went home to his Workers' Paradise, and caught hell for being Brecht there, too...

 

 

Posted by: comatus at May 23, 2010 07:41 PM (/VEEI)

27 Revvy, I haven't been there for awhile, but this is a site called studioproducts.com that is run by a successful, retired commercial artist.  The last time I was there, most of the commentators were fine artists (and fincancially successful) but there is a refreshing lack of smug about them - you might find it interesting.

Posted by: rabidfox at May 23, 2010 08:00 PM (n/zY1)

28 Yeah, great. Those edgy, out there, non-conformist, artsy types, shouldn't be satisfied with being parasites on mommy and daddy's dime. Now they should get to be parasites on the taxpayer dime. Instead of a "Draw Mohammed Day", how about a "Draw that scrunt, Pelosi, Day".

Posted by: nerdygirl at May 23, 2010 08:24 PM (BNo0b)

29 Oh, and no intention to insult any artists. I don't have a problem with people wanting to be artists, just with people wanting to be artists subsidized by already strapped taxpayers. I had a brother who, while in college in the early seventies, had one life goal of making jewelry and selling it at art fairs. Other times he talked about going to Australia and starting a farm commune. But he never had the brass to suggest that he should get health insurance on Dad's plan until he was 26 years old. Again, I truly hate Nancy Pelosi, who is dumber that a twenty year old who thinks he should go to Australia and start a farm commune.

Posted by: nerdygirl at May 23, 2010 08:36 PM (BNo0b)

30 I paint. I make electronic noise. Before I realized it was futile, I wrote. I'd love to make my living from the arts, but the arts are dead. And if they're not dead, well, they're not at all well.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 23, 2010 09:53 PM (eNxMU)

31 Oh do I know this story intimately.

In fact, my story is almost identical. Except I worked as a magician and actor. I once spent 19 consecutive months on the road. This was before I was married, and a good part of the reason I wasn't married.

I met my wife on the road. We don't have the delightful dog, but we do have baby number two on the way. It is frightening how much it takes to stay afloat.

Suddenly, a normal life with a 9 to 5 looks appealing. My daughter just turned 1, and I would have suffered greatly if I had missed huge chunks of that first year.

Posted by: Patrick in Des Moines at May 24, 2010 01:56 AM (PUzMO)

32 zentai

Posted by: zentai at May 24, 2010 03:25 AM (/GTAZ)

33
Another artist chimes in:

I was a commercial artist for almost 30 years and had to quit and relocate due to an illness in the family. I've been unemployed for most of a year, but do I want anyone to subsidize me? Not just no, but hell no. (Actually, being forced to come up with product on a daily basis can be a real drain-- now I can do what I want on my own time.) Luckily I've done other things, so I do have other options. The funny thing is that art was my day job, and people like Pelosi (and to be honest, a lot of artists too) do art and artists a disservice by their attitude.

Posted by: Golem14 at May 24, 2010 03:42 AM (2X8VA)

34 I just turned 40. My mom was always an opera singer. It's still a big damn mystery to me how she made any money before she opened her own voice studio 30 something years ago. Since then she's been doing reasonably well even though she hasn't the first clue how to run a business. You'd be pretty amazed at what the Patsie Ramsey types will fork over so their little princesses can learn to sing Wind Beneath my Wings.

Posted by: h00v3r at May 24, 2010 08:27 AM (PODXN)

35 Check out the new medical schools in El Paso and Phoenix; they need warm bodies and have some decent faculty who have fled the hole in Tucson.

Having taught pre-med, med, and post-med students and been around docs and med schools all of my adult life, I am hoping you are one in a million and not a dick like the other 999,999 are. And if you are an American, there is hope that you are not a psychopath/sociopath as are many of the foreign students and docs.

See what you did, you gave me a brief spark of hope for our health care system; that takes a true artist.

Posted by: capitalist running dog at May 24, 2010 08:56 AM (XY32L)

36

You are an entertainer/performer, not an artist.  That is unless you are somehow writing (creating) the opera that you are performing.

You have a skill (singing) that you apply to someone elses creative work.

I still wish you well in your endeavors to find a career that provides health insurance.

I myself have made my living for the past 20 years as an artist.  Very difficult at first living off my savings but the last fifteen years have been quite successful.  It is possible to do it and I know many who are living that life.

Posted by: Hamilton Burger at May 24, 2010 09:18 AM (NJ/IH)

37 37

You are an entertainer/performer, not an artist. That is unless you are somehow writing (creating) the opera that you are performing.

You have a skill (singing) that you apply to someone elses creative work.

Posted by: Hamilton Burger at May 24, 2010 01:18 PM (NJ/IH)



You're wrong and you don't even know why you're wrong.


Posted by: Walter Sobchak at May 24, 2010 11:53 AM (iJrbB)

38 I never will either until you explain it to me.  May you can sing it?

Posted by: Hamilton Burger at May 24, 2010 12:58 PM (NJ/IH)

39 39

Posted by: Hamilton Burger at May 24, 2010 04:58 PM (NJ/IH)
Maybe I can sing it...  I see what you did there.  Very clever.


Is a painter 'not an artist' because he did not create the object or scene he is painting?  Would you argue that a photographer is not an artist because he didn't create the thing he is photographing?  One could say that they simply have a skill that they apply to either someone else's creative work or an existing object.  I think there are generations of painters who would disagree with that position.


As a portraitist interprets the things he sees into his chosen medium, a musician, an opera singer for example, interprets the the written music into his chosen medium.  In both cases the result is often wildly different from the original material.  Both are highly influenced by the background, personality and intuition of the artist.  How are these two different?

Beyond that we could discuss improvisation, which has been a key element in music from the Baroque period all the way through jazz and rock and roll.  Music created in the very moment of performance.  Is that not art either?

Are you going to tell me that the jerkoff I saw selling his shit art outside the Metropolitan Museum last year is an artist and Leontyne Price,  Ella Fitzgerald, Maxim Vengerov, and Ramon Vargas are not?






Posted by: Walter Sobchak at May 24, 2010 06:13 PM (iJrbB)

40

Walter Sobchak

You're wrong and you don't even know why you're wrong.

Posted by: Hamilton Burger at May 24, 2010 09:23 PM (NJ/IH)

41 43

Walter Sobchak

You're wrong and you don't even know why you're wrong.

Posted by: Hamilton Burger at May 25, 2010 01:23 AM (NJ/IH)



This should be good... Do tell...

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at May 24, 2010 10:05 PM (iJrbB)

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