February 08, 2010

Audi's Very Mixed-Message "Green" Ad
— Ace

Is this pro-green or anti-? Well, it seems pro-green, since it's selling a a "Green" car, and the Green Hero gets to skate past the authoritarian and effeminate Green Police at the end. So... I guess that's supposed to be a good thing, right?

But... so... why is it lampooning green fever?

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1

Buy Your Audi used.

'nuff said.

Posted by: garrett at February 08, 2010 11:59 AM (1+Izr)

2 Jawas gotta love the Anteater, though...

Posted by: garrett at February 08, 2010 12:00 PM (1+Izr)

3 Audi is just playing both sides of the argument here.

they are selling a sports car to those who hate Green PC BS.

they are selling piety to those who want to satisfy the Green PC BS.

And it's a good car.  It's a diesel and it's clean, and this is a good technology.  I hate the company, but I admire the clever ad.  42 mpg and fast car = hell yeah.

Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 12:00 PM (dUOK+)

4 EARTH KILLERS!!!!!!?@#$%!!!

Posted by: libtard at February 08, 2010 12:01 PM (ngD76)

5

C'mon. If you're going to link any ad, shouldn't it be the Betty White/Snickers bit? I can only hope I'm as much of a spitfire as she is at 88...

Posted by: laceyunderalls at February 08, 2010 12:01 PM (nd+1J)

6 Oh, and I would caution people to never buy an Audi or VW used,  or perhaps new.  they break.  a lot.  Like, all the fucking time.

If you do get an Audi, just add in the best warranty they offer to the price of the car when comparing to real cars.

Though I'm sure Audi is laughing at Toyota these days, Audi and VW really do make some shitty stuff that eat your money.  You're better off in a Ford or a Honda or a Hyundai.

Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 12:02 PM (dUOK+)

7 I must admit it, I can not figure out this ad either.  It seems serious for the  reasons that you point out, but if I wanted to make a sarcastic parody of enviros that made then seem fascist implementing their polices, then I would make this as well.  Of course since the two are closely related, this may be causing the problem.

Posted by: JAFKIAC at February 08, 2010 12:02 PM (G9Ine)

8 Ad sucks...just makes me wanna throw the Jackassocrats out even more

Posted by: beedubya at February 08, 2010 12:02 PM (AnTyA)

9

Be a shame to smash a few Green Police with my large bumper at 80 MPH, then back over them a few times.

Just sayin'...

Posted by: Hummer H2 at February 08, 2010 12:02 PM (rl/bG)

10 I still find a minuet amount of humor in it. but Kemp made good points against it due to the fact it's not as funny since these types of things actually happen. I prefer to look at it as kicking a hippie in the mouth and I usually stop watching before they let the diesel car go b/c it's "clean."

Posted by: Houdini's Cadaver at February 08, 2010 12:03 PM (nz654)

11 I'm going to take a wild stab here:

The commercial was a script around the Cheap Trick song parody.

-

Posted by: BumperStickerist at February 08, 2010 12:03 PM (ruzrP)

12 Audis kill.

Posted by: mesablue at February 08, 2010 12:04 PM (jc7YC)

13
Over at Malkins site she says Audi has not only signed on to the green initiative they have basically capitulated to it trying to rake in the cash. They have given loads of cash to eco special interest groups over in Europe hoping to get preferred status.

Posted by: Blazer at February 08, 2010 12:05 PM (t72+4)

14 But... so... why is it lampooning green fever?

I think they're playing (i.e. sucking up) to both green and anti-green sentiments.

Posted by: OregonMuse at February 08, 2010 12:05 PM (hoowK)

15 If you have to think about an ad, it's not effective.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at February 08, 2010 12:05 PM (nd+1J)

16 Or, if we're going to take this seriously,

The "Green Police" come to him in his bed.
The "Green Police" are inside of his head ...

so, they're not --- wait for it --- real.

The commercial is just some a collection of reified paranoia ... or something.

.

Posted by: BumperStickerist at February 08, 2010 12:05 PM (ruzrP)

17 Just imagine you had developed a really great car.  You wanted it to be fast and powerful and effecient because that's what you value in your engineering.

But you really resent the fuck our of the environmentalist nutjobs.  They hate your diesel tech, they hate cars in general, and they probably hate engineering.

So you came up with a car that really is much better for the Earth than a Prius or a train, and you know you can market this car to them, but you resent those fuckers.

Perhaps an ad with those nutjob whackos ruining everyone's life but not finding anything wrong with your car is exactly what you want to say to teh world.  Pass that through marketing a couple of times to dillute the message, and this ad is the result.  Instead of hostility, they just make it a lark.

there's no doubt Audi wanted to make fun of green losers.  The Orange Rind offense?  come on. 

But someone in the chain realized this car will also sell to those nuts, and decided to laugh and mock.

Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 12:06 PM (dUOK+)

18 My first car was an Audi Fox, which was basically a re-tooled VW Scirocco.

Which sucked, not unlike this misguided ad campaign.

Posted by: Christopher Calandro at February 08, 2010 12:07 PM (JdbYk)

19 We're thinking of the ad and not the product being advertised. Thus, commercial fail.

Posted by: joncelli at February 08, 2010 12:07 PM (RD7QR)

20 I liked that ad because the green police bashing was more evident than the efficient running car.

And my wifes VW has been running like a charm for 5 years. Zip in the trouble dept.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at February 08, 2010 12:09 PM (2sJK0)

21 All I know is it gave me the heebie-jeebies.  I kept thinking... that is a scary violation of privacy (the search light in the window for the orange rind?) and freedom.  Shiver.

Posted by: Sweetsrender at February 08, 2010 12:09 PM (rVDlM)

22 I love the Green Police concept. Seriously.

Posted by: George Orwell at February 08, 2010 12:09 PM (6uiF7)

23

C'mon. If you're going to link any ad, shouldn't it be the Betty White/Snickers bit? I can only hope I'm as much of a spitfire as she is at 88...

Posted by: laceyunderalls at February 08, 2010 04:01 PM (nd+1J)

Don't forget Abe Vigoda took a hit at the end too.  I think I read he's 89.

Posted by: Tami at February 08, 2010 12:09 PM (VuLos)

24

Now, if Audi would have shown a clip of Al Gore being arrested deboarding his private jet....I would buy 10 of the damn things.

I will not buy any private jet, much less ten, on which that man has flown.

Just think of the grease spots.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 08, 2010 12:10 PM (B+qrE)

25 Buy any Government-approved Audi during our End-of-Model-Year Clearance Blowout, and get free documents proving you have absolutely no Jewish blood!

Posted by: iowahawk at February 08, 2010 12:10 PM (veL4N)

26 "Now, if Audi would have shown a clip of Al Gore being arrested deboarding his private jet....I would buy 10 of the damn things. Posted by: Mallamutt"

That would have kicked totally fucking ass.

Even not AlGORE, but just some random diplomats on private jets and limos pretending to advocate for greenies.

Total missed opportunity!

Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 12:10 PM (dUOK+)

27 My first thought was WTF?  This is my exact nightmare about the Greenies! That they'll arrest me for driving my gas-guzzling SUV. It made me at once vow to NEVER buy an Audi (which wasn't exactly gonna happen anyway.)

Posted by: beckster at February 08, 2010 12:11 PM (VKl4R)

28 What you would call pandering to both sides. It gives normal sane humans something they like, a parody of the "green" movement, and it gives the greenies something they like, a depiction of their absolute moral ascendancy over the activities of man. Sort of like Colbert's soft satire about conservatism, this soft satire on the green movement is likely to be broadly misinterpreted by a large number of greenies as genuine concern while those of us in the other camp love it for the parody. Good commercial, everybody likes Audi in the end.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at February 08, 2010 12:11 PM (0q2P7)

29 These people are serious:  This commercial is an eco-commie wet dream, illustrating everything they actually want to do

Be afraid; be VERY afraid

Posted by: SantaRosaStan at February 08, 2010 12:12 PM (JrRME)

30 Audi should follow this ad up with "I Want You To Want Me" ...

but with scorching hot Scandi/German babes rolling around on the hood.

Posted by: BumperStickerist at February 08, 2010 12:12 PM (ruzrP)

31

Audi's are the best buy on the used market. $20k gets you a two year old $56k ride and the extended warranty's offered through delers are a bargain. You have to maintain them, though.  That is the key.

(FWIW - The Fox was a re-brand POS.)

Posted by: garrett at February 08, 2010 12:12 PM (1+Izr)

32 One thing I like about this ad. It assumes conservatives are intelligent enough to see the joke, and assumes the greenies aren't

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at February 08, 2010 12:12 PM (0q2P7)

33 This is from a statement by Audi before the commercial came out.:

Audi of America's chief marketing officer, Scott Keogh, said in a statement that:
We have no doubt that viewers will walk away from the Super Bowl with that song playing in their heads. It is certain to make the environmental message behind the Green Police ad hard to forget.

So what was the message again?

Posted by: JAFKIAC at February 08, 2010 12:12 PM (G9Ine)

34 Sure it was satirical but scary satirical which I guess is what satire needs to be truly effective.  But, Explain to me what the census ad meant?   Now that one was odd too.  And, if you put the two of them together, the nuts are going to have a field day, they won't be able to literally head for the hills fast enough.

Posted by: curious at February 08, 2010 12:12 PM (p302b)

35 just some random diplomats on private jets and limos

Or Cheap Trick, that would have been hilarious.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at February 08, 2010 12:13 PM (2sJK0)

36 Audi? I thought this was an ad to reelect Obama.

Posted by: Indy at February 08, 2010 12:13 PM (NzpaZ)

37 Are they going backwards?

The 1995 VW Passat TDI was capable of 54MPG.

Posted by: WTFCI at February 08, 2010 12:14 PM (+zo63)

38 Let's face it, though, if you already loath greenies, you were not going to buy a metrosexual and unreliable eurotrash car like an Audi.

Have you ever met a VW Jetta driver who is male?  They are douches.  They all have ipods and go to Starbucks and Barnes and Noble and listen to gay music.

Sadly, a lot of relatively normal folks are somewhat in this metrosexual half man thing.  And those people won't be driven off by this commercial.

The people who will say "this commercial totally pisses me off" would never buy an Audi anyway.  Because Audis suck.  Even Audis with badass Diesel tech suck.  You might as well wear a beret and eat biscotti when you drive it.

Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 12:14 PM (dUOK+)

39 Enjoy the commercial

Buy a Ford

Posted by: mrp at February 08, 2010 12:15 PM (HjPtV)

40 "Are they going backwards?

The 1995 VW Passat TDI was capable of 54MPG.
Posted by: WTFCI'

that's amazing, and they are getting cleaner, so in efficiency, they are probably going backwards.

I want a Ford TDI passenger car.  Or a Honda.

Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 12:15 PM (dUOK+)

41

  But, Explain to me what the census ad meant?

That the United States government pissed away 2.5 million dollars.

Posted by: Mallamutt at February 08, 2010 04:15 PM (V9SYy)

"Absolutely"

Posted by: Tami at February 08, 2010 12:16 PM (VuLos)

42 I seen two small groups of people that this ad works for.  There are the far lefty enviro nazi's who fail to see the green police as a parody,  and then there are those who see environmental regulation as ridiculous but inevitable.  Resistance is futile and all that.

Posted by: John Galt at February 08, 2010 12:16 PM (F/4zf)

43

26 Buy any Government-approved Audi during our End-of-Model-Year Clearance Blowout, and get free documents proving you have absolutely no Jewish blood!
.

..where does one draw that line 'hawk?

I'm a Jew. I lost relatives and familial lineage to the Holocaust.

Should I sell my 64' XL 500 because Ford was a sympathizer?

Where would I start? 

Just wondering...

Posted by: garrett at February 08, 2010 12:17 PM (1+Izr)

44 "

Audi's are the best buy on the used market. $20k gets you a two year old $56k ride and the extended warranty's offered through delers are a bargain. You have to maintain them, though.  That is the key.

(FWIW - The Fox was a re-brand POS.)

Posted by: garrett"

That $20k car is inferior to a $10k used Honda in most respects, and most importantly, cost of ownership.

Used Audis cost hundreds per month to keep running.  While they do lose their value a lot, that doesn't mean they were really worth the original sticker and you got a bargain.  A 15 year old 7 series has lost 97% of its value because it's a piece of shit now.

Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 12:17 PM (dUOK+)

45

I have this strange urge to turn on all the lights in my apartment, bake 15 pizzas (needs a 500-degree oven), take two hot baths and then go idle my car for an hour.

It's the damndest thing.

Posted by: Joanna at February 08, 2010 12:18 PM (7+WuG)

46

So what was the message again?

I liked the Kitty Anteater.

Posted by: New Yorker Cartoon Editor at February 08, 2010 12:19 PM (1+Izr)

47 audi failed, they are still building cars, not better, faster  bicycles.

Posted by: willow at February 08, 2010 12:19 PM (5Bf/7)

48 They can't have it both ways.

They can't lampoon the greenie fascists, but then side with them by having the hero conform to their wishes.

They can't say "OMG LOOKIT THE JACKBOOTED GREEN FASCISTS!!!1!!" and then in the same breath say "Buy this car because then you'll be cool with the jackbooted fascists."

It's a dreadful commercial, and every executive at Audi deserves a punch in the taint.

Posted by: Kensington at February 08, 2010 12:20 PM (BGpfF)

49 Would I buy or not buy a car because I liked or disliked a commercial? Nope.

Would I buy a car because the US govt has sunk billions into the company?  Absolutely not.  No GM.  No Chrysler.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at February 08, 2010 12:20 PM (2sJK0)

50 a friend of mine got out of a speeding ticket because he drove an early VW Diesel Golf

The cop ticketed him for going 85 in a 45.
My friend had the service manager for the VW dealership write a letter testifying that the VW Golf Diesel wasn't capable of hitting 85mph  on a level road, let alone going up a slight incline, which is where my friend was ticketed.

He beat the ticket.

.-

Posted by: BumperStickerist at February 08, 2010 12:20 PM (ruzrP)

51

According to a statement I heard from some muckety muck from Audi, this was no parody. They be lovin' the greenie shit.

Also, who the hell would drive an Audi?

Posted by: di butler, qualified for Aussie porn at February 08, 2010 12:20 PM (S3xX1)

52

I worked for the German company for several years and their sense of humor is dry to say the least. 

I would bet money that the Audi execs who ok'd this ad knew full well it was a send up of the entire green movement.  They just love the idea that one of the most "green" cars on earth runs on diesel fuel.  DIESEL !!!  That has to be one of the worst fuels image wise on the planet (never mind that they are now quiet, clean burning and still efficient) from a green prespective.

I also sure most Americans recoiled at that snapshot of the green future being pushed on us by the Democrat Congress and the enviros.  Notice that they didn't even hit on Cap 'n Trade.  They went after the very regulations that are now found at many liberal dominated urban centers around America.

Loved the ending with "green" cops pulling over the real cops ...

Posted by: Jeff at February 08, 2010 12:21 PM (1QKZf)

53 The ad I think had a very unintended consequence; alerting a large group of people who were heretofore blind to creeping socialism/enviro-fascism. I'll take it any way I can get it.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 08, 2010 12:22 PM (9Cooa)

54

Used Audis cost hundreds per month to keep running.  While they do lose their value a lot, that doesn't mean they were really worth the original sticker and you got a bargain.  A 15 year old 7 series has lost 97% of its value because it's a piece of shit now.

my empirical experience is quite the contrary.

and a 7 series is a BMW.

I don't fit in a Honda - I'm 6' 2" and 220lbs of twisted fuckin' steel!

(maybe not the twisted steel part...)

 

Posted by: garrett at February 08, 2010 12:22 PM (1+Izr)

55 I'm guessing the Audi A3 TDI exhaust is "cleaner"..  Guessing here, but that 1995 Passat probably weighs more than this A3 TDI.  It seems unlikely that the Passat would outperform this current model by 29% on fuel economy.

Posted by: WTFCI at February 08, 2010 12:22 PM (+zo63)

56 Audi is a Green Nazi Pimp.

Posted by: mama winger at February 08, 2010 12:23 PM (Ue9UN)

57

I have this strange urge to turn on all the lights in my apartment, bake 15 pizzas (needs a 500-degree oven), take two hot baths and then go idle my car for an hour.

You forgot throw another tire in the fireplace and set some bear traps. 

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 08, 2010 12:24 PM (B+qrE)

58 yeah, that Census ad ...  was that Ed Bagley ?  isn't he dead ?  they spent 2.5 million on that ?????

Posted by: Jeff at February 08, 2010 12:24 PM (1QKZf)

59 Posted by: Joanna at February 08, 2010 04:18 PM (7+WuG)

Ditto. I also got the urge to fill up on cheese, sauerkraut, cornbeef, bratwurst and beans.

Posted by: Holger at February 08, 2010 12:24 PM (8NGHm)

60 Just wrap everything in Aluminum Foil...drives the Leftards crazy!

Posted by: garrett at February 08, 2010 12:26 PM (1+Izr)

61 What, no love for the fiddle-playing beaver ad?

Posted by: barbelle at February 08, 2010 12:26 PM (qF8q3)

62 I don't fit in a Honda - I'm 6' 2" and 220lbs

I'm 6'4" / 260-ish.   One of the odder experiences I had car shopping lo' those many years ago was hopping into a Honda CRX, putting the seat all the way back and not being able to reach the pedals.  Plenty of head room, too.

I went with a Buick Park Ave.

because I'd rather look at the road then actually feel it.

.




Posted by: BumperStickerist at February 08, 2010 12:26 PM (ruzrP)

63

You forgot throw another tire in the fireplace and set some bear traps. 

Dangit, I knew there was something ... Maybe I'll save that for Arbor Day.

Posted by: Joanna at February 08, 2010 12:27 PM (7+WuG)

64 This whole "Green Police" idea only works if the car being sold is unabashedly NOT GREEN - like the Dodge Charger. Green Police manning checkpoints and gas guzzling Dodge's plowing right through them would be a marketing COUP!

Posted by: JDW at February 08, 2010 12:27 PM (uw+0A)

65

garrett: when Ford starts running ads along the lines of the pro-police-state ad Volks' Wagen has just run, then you'll know that Ford has embraced the evil. i.e., not now, thank Gott im Himmel. (I'd expect it sooner from GM.)

Your comment does bring up an interesting question. What's the next bit of edgy merchandising? I picture this: a cabal of hook-nosed bankers in some skyscraper office somewhere, scheming over their big profits; and then some all-American hero breaks down a wall - IT'S LOW INTEREST RATE MAN!

Who'll be the first to run that populist ad?

(And no; I will never buy a car from the assholes who sign off on that shit.)

Posted by: Zimriel at February 08, 2010 12:27 PM (9Sbz+)

66 Have you ever met a VW Jetta driver who is male?  They are douches.  They all have ipods and go to Starbucks and Barnes and Noble and listen to gay music.

I used to own a VW Jetta and none of that applies to me. So bite me.

Having said that, I probably won't buy another one.

Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at February 08, 2010 12:27 PM (bzLxm)

67 I thought all the ads sucked.  This one seems to be trying to place both sides.

Posted by: brak at February 08, 2010 12:27 PM (W5NBA)

68 I love my Jetta TDI. 40MPG on average and better performance than a Prius.
They just want you to forget that this is the company that brought you the Turbo diesel R8, the entire Porsche line, and Bugatti Veyron.
Now if they only brought over some of their blue-motion diesels. The TDIs here now are a little cramped.

Now Ford had a diesel escort that got 50MPG in the 80s. How come American car makers aren't making diesel sedans here? I've got an 80 mile roundtrip commute, and given the traffic on 684 I'm not the only one. There's a market only the euro-weenies seem to be touching.

Posted by: Iblis at February 08, 2010 12:28 PM (9221z)

69

Simple explanation:

The Greens are just that confused, about everything.

Posted by: Rewrite! at February 08, 2010 12:29 PM (d7Px0)

70 Good commercial, everybody likes Audi in the end.

Keep fuckin' that skwerl, Moose.

Posted by: Boris at February 08, 2010 12:29 PM (ci50A)

71 You will get my TWO SUVs when you pry them from my polar bear-strangling, Greenpeace off-flipping, charcoal-grilling dead hands.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 08, 2010 12:30 PM (B+qrE)

72

68 I don't fit in a Honda - I'm 6' 2" and 220lbs

 I have a buddy who is 6'2" and 240 and he drives one of those things...fuckin' deathtrap. 

When I sit in it, though our shoulders are touching...

I also live in rural montana.  The Allroad will handle almost anything I have thrown at it...and if there's over three feet ofsnow, I take the 3/4 Ton.

Posted by: garrett at February 08, 2010 12:30 PM (1+Izr)

73 The Audi Green Police ad is a rorschach test. Green tech and Global Panic are divisive issues. How do you advertise a product that at least half the audience will hate you for? This way you appeal to the skeptics and to the smuggies. Sell this shit wagon to hippies, but don't burn your overall brand with the sane members of your audience. It's a very clever piece of work and the Green Smuggies tend to over think the ad in an effort to rationalize that they weren't being softly mocked. Read the comment threads at a lefty blog where they're discussing the ad. It's very well done. I think this balance is what Fiorina was trying to get with DEMONSHEEP to mock fiscal cons on the sly in an appeal to overeducated California Fonzanoon Moderates while using a line of attack textually that appealed to TeaPartyFolk. The balance was off in her ad and the DEMONSHEEP itself was too creepy and destroyed any message she was sending beyond "My ad guy hasn't slept for five days and is doing blow off his own ass."

Posted by: Alabama Fatbody at February 08, 2010 12:30 PM (N2OAe)

74 You're all NAZIs!

Posted by: Peter Sinclair at February 08, 2010 12:30 PM (d7Px0)

75 That ad makes me want to punch a polar bear.

Posted by: MMW at February 08, 2010 12:30 PM (C3kMa)

76 It seemed like the message was their car was the only thing that will allow you to avoid the coming 1984 like green police state

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 08, 2010 12:30 PM (1Jaio)

77 Didn't like the commercial, but I have to offer an alternate view.

I bought (new) a 2001 S4 as my midlife crisis car. Best damned car I've ever had by a country mile. Still as solid 9.5 years later as the day I bought it; zero trouble. The build quality is vastly superior to any American car and (IMO), most other eurocars (including BMW & MB). Even now, I giggle like a school girl when the twin turbos spin up and I carve a turn out on country roads.

I love that car and will cry when it finally dies or circumstances dictate I get rid of it.

I also have a Honda Pilot for family stuff; Great car, but it's not an Audi, not even close; it's a tool that will be replaced when necessary...

Posted by: Jayne at February 08, 2010 12:31 PM (/ZaEZ)

78 Most of the commercials had to do with either people in underwear or limp-wristed metrosexual males. I would venture to say that personifies exactly who works there and the office attire at Audi....

Kill greenie!

Posted by: Joy to the whirled at February 08, 2010 12:31 PM (WVBjj)

79
Meh, buy a Golf diesel if you're worried about it.  Half the price and fewer breakdowns.

Posted by: Dang Straights at February 08, 2010 12:31 PM (fx8sm)

80 Audi is opportunistic, like most big businesses. They just want people to buy their products. The ad does parody the greenies,  and it also caters to them with  their new "green" diesel tech. Yes, they "do business" with eco groups, but for the same reason that many businesses routinely donate money to BOTH parties. It gets you a seat at the table with the folks you believe will be influencing policy.

They lefties don't get the parody, the righties see it as an all-too-real look at our possible future, and most people -- sigh -- just accept that this is where the world is headed.  And that's why I thought it was an outstanding commercial. It satisfies everyone, in one way or the other. Hey, you don't have to worry it about it -- just  buy an Audi and all is well!  It's fast, it's green, it's cool. 

Posted by: Diver at February 08, 2010 12:32 PM (BcYZo)

81 I thought is was a goof on the greenie idiots and that it was funny. No way they were serious to me but perhaps they went right down the middle and caught some applause from both sides.

Posted by: Vivi at February 08, 2010 12:32 PM (Rld5k)

82

When I sit in it, though our shoulders are touching...

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Posted by: Uncomfortable Jerry Seinfeld at February 08, 2010 12:32 PM (nd+1J)

83

given the traffic on 684 I'm not the only one. There's a market only the euro-weenies seem to be touching.

Either Stop at the Blazer for a Burger and Fries and let the traffic die down, or hop on rte 22 in Bedford and wind your way around the reservoir and hop on the Bronx River o Saw Mill pkwy...stop at Broadway Pizzeria in No. White Plains and get a slice!

 

Posted by: garrett at February 08, 2010 12:32 PM (1+Izr)

84

I have this strange urge to turn on all the lights in my apartment, bake 15 pizzas (needs a 500-degree oven), take two hot baths and then go idle my car for an hour.

It's the damndest thing.

Winner!  That was pretty funny, but of course, this whole thread is funnier than the commercial. 

Posted by: Adlib at February 08, 2010 12:33 PM (k/CNO)

85

BackwardsGirl noted the soft assault on the Greenies before I did, primarily because I was shitting myself with laughter.

Still, I can't figure out whose side they're on with that ad. But, hey, I'm from Alabama. I'm kinda slow on the uptake sometimes.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 08, 2010 12:33 PM (i3AsK)

86 Its just so sweet to blast by those Obama Priuses in a TDI.

Posted by: Iblis at February 08, 2010 12:33 PM (9221z)

87 Jealousy, Jayne...S4.  Mmmmm....

Posted by: garrett at February 08, 2010 12:34 PM (1+Izr)

88 You know, after watching it again, it really is a blast at the nutty left green movement...the green cop on a Segway is awesome. As a previous poster pointed out - it is a clean running diesel. The libs hate that diesel is even a viable option. The end tagline "green never felt so right" is kinda like saying "this is your sissy-boys Prius". I hated this ad the first couple times I watched it. It's actually pretty sweet.  

Posted by: JDW at February 08, 2010 12:34 PM (uw+0A)

89 Speaking of Super Bowl ads, did I miss it or did Ford not even have a single one?

Posted by: Gaff at February 08, 2010 12:34 PM (pe9DT)

90 ..."this ISN'T your sissy-boys Prius"...

Posted by: JDW at February 08, 2010 12:35 PM (uw+0A)

91 You know what people aren't asking about this ad?

"Where can I buy an Audi"

Posted by: DoDoGuRu at February 08, 2010 12:36 PM (31pnY)

92 Anything to stop ManBearPig...even a confused mixed-message ad...is worth it.

Posted by: AlGore at February 08, 2010 12:36 PM (8n1j5)

93

All those fucking Super Bowl ads...and none with Brian Dennehy..

...not a single fucking one

Posted by: beedubya at February 08, 2010 12:36 PM (AnTyA)

94 I thought it was funny.  They're practically forced to be "green," every large company is, because of tax incentives and social and governmental pressure and crap, but they're not happy about it.  This is their way of saying so.  At least that's how it seemed to me.

Posted by: April at February 08, 2010 12:36 PM (b0THY)

95 95 Speaking of Super Bowl ads, did I miss it or did Ford not even have a single one?

I believe Ford ran the Mike Rowe (Dirty Jobs guy) ads.

Posted by: Long Island at February 08, 2010 12:37 PM (TiURi)

96 "72 Have you ever met a VW Jetta driver who is male?  They are douches.  They all have ipods and go to Starbucks and Barnes and Noble and listen to gay music.

I used to own a VW Jetta and none of that applies to me. So bite me.

Having said that, I probably won't buy another one.

Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at February 08, 2010 04:27 PM (bzLxm)"

Well, fair enough.  My first car belonged to my grandma and I am sure there are many exceptions to the rule.

but Jetta men are usually pretty metrosexual.  and it's a stunningly bad car when the cost of ownership data is looked at.  It's a car for a man who doesn't like good machines.

I admit, some metrosexuals aren't aware they are what they are.  Perhaps some Jetta drivers think they are not what they are... and some just got a car that didn't suit them for whatever reason.


------


Anecdotes are stupid, but my last three cars (my present on not counted as it's only got 8000 miles on it) had 750,000 miles combined.  One Ford, one Honda, and one pre-idiot Saturn from the early 90s.  Adding up all the repair costs beyond belts and fluids for all three cars is $400.  I'm not a brand loyalist by any stretch, but I know several Jetta drivers and two Audi drivers and I've noticed that those cars are simply very expensive to keep on the road for the length of time you can keep a good Ford or Honda on the road.


"you have to take care of it, that's the key" is a statistical trick to deny the truth about how these cars routinely fail.  An 8 year old Honda has a lower cost of ownership than a 2 year old VW or Audi, according to some statistic I read somewhere (so I know it's true!).


Now, I'm not saying don't buy one of their cars.  I'm saying those who are enraged by this ad already were very unlikely to buy such a shitty product.

Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 12:37 PM (dUOK+)

97 #101

I must have been hitting the head at the time.

Posted by: Gaff at February 08, 2010 12:38 PM (pe9DT)

98

I don't fit in a Honda - I'm 6' 2" and 220lbs of twisted fuckin' steel!

Posted by: garrett at February 08, 2010 04:22 PM (1+Izr)

 

Sooooo.....How you doin'? ;-) 

Posted by: di butler, qualified for Aussie porn at February 08, 2010 12:38 PM (S3xX1)

99 So that is an anteater.  Good to know.

I'm peeved at this ad because I love Audis.  You know, the ones that go 140 mph and get 2 gallons to the mile?  Those ones. 

Posted by: alexthechick at February 08, 2010 12:39 PM (8WZWv)

100 Hearing morons extoll virtues of Audis is as heartbreaking as learning my hubby once drove a Volvo wagon. *sigh*

Posted by: di butler, qualified for Aussie porn at February 08, 2010 12:40 PM (S3xX1)

101 I just bought a used VW Jetta. My friend Rachel's ran for at least 7 years (that I know of) with no problems, so I'm hoping for the best. My dad gave me his F-150 when I went to college (it was available and free) and that truck was a piece of crap. I don't think, in 7 years of "driving" it, it spent more than 6 months out of the shop. I say "driving" because it doesn't count as driving when you have to spend all that time in a shop. I will never drive a Ford again. So, Wigglesworth @6, I'm hoping for the best. :-/

None of that story has anything to do with the commercial. I'm just sharing.

Posted by: Ella at February 08, 2010 12:40 PM (WPjES)

102

This is from a statement by Audi before the commercial came out.:

Audi of America's chief marketing officer, Scott Keogh, said in a statement that:
We have no doubt that viewers will walk away from the Super Bowl with that song playing in their heads. It is certain to make the environmental message behind the Green Police ad hard to forget.

So what was the message again?

Buy an Audi diesel to prevent an environmental fascist takeover?

To tell you the truth I was fully expecting the ad to be from "Big Oil", until they showed the Audi.

Posted by: Ken at February 08, 2010 12:41 PM (Bs34i)

103

I used to own a VW Jetta and none of that applies to me. So bite me

Your just latent...it's just a matter of time

Posted by: beedubya at February 08, 2010 12:41 PM (AnTyA)

104 BTW, the reason you don't see Al Gore or any politicans being arrested coming off of planes is because they will be exempt from the very laws that bind the citizens.

Posted by: Ken at February 08, 2010 12:42 PM (Bs34i)

105

#106

Di,

And you knew that BEFORE the wedding? Dude must be a stud.

 

Posted by: JDW at February 08, 2010 12:42 PM (uw+0A)

106 at 6'-1" / 240 lbs, my insanely well crafted and splendidly featured form fits snuggly in my 07' Vette and H2. Heaven be danged if I ever consider putting a knuckle inside one of these greengoons eco-carts. I just got my son a new Camaro for the pleasure of putting another muscle car in our garage.

I know, I know...universal paradox of hating Gubment Motors and loving American Muscle...

Posted by: Joy to the whirled at February 08, 2010 12:43 PM (WVBjj)

107 I don't get the headroom argument about Audi's Honda's most successful North American car has more legroom than Audis and was designed in the US for the US market.

Not that the alternative to an Audi is a Honda... they are drastically different markets.  While the Honda is usually faster, better built, and cheaper, and yeah, has better leg room, fit, and finish, they just aren't really competitors.

One's a front wheel drive efficiency design, the other is meant to make you impressed with yourself.

Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 12:43 PM (dUOK+)

108

Will the Green Police be able to run faster than a speeding bullet?

Posted by: inquiring minds want to know at February 08, 2010 12:44 PM (Vu6sl)

109 Oh, and Honda has much better safety ratings than Audis.

I don't even really like Hondas (they are so ugly these days), but calling them a death trap with no legroom while swooning over an A4 is pretty hilarious.

Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 12:44 PM (dUOK+)

110 Anyone here ever read "Fallen Angels" by Larry Niven?  Remember when that sort of thing was science fiction?

Posted by: biff biffington at February 08, 2010 12:44 PM (JZhkJ)

111 I can only imagine how many folks out there muttered "if only they did that for real" (or something similar) when they saw that ad.

Posted by: Sam at February 08, 2010 12:45 PM (Cxsey)

112 Joy, it is hard hating GM.  Their politics make me enraged, but there's nothing like the suburban, and I really appreciate the Camaro.  Neither are reliable or better than normal build quality (which isn't that bad these days... better than VW).

I just wish GM had been sold to various investors instead of bought by the government.  I think we'd be seeing cars we could be proud of and willing to buy.

Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 12:46 PM (dUOK+)

113 OMG, the suburban is such a big gas guzzler and you can get a comparable 4 wheel drive vehicle with more leg room that gives you better gas mileage and handles like a car.  I mean if you need excess trunk you can get a truck.

Posted by: curious at February 08, 2010 12:48 PM (p302b)

114 #111- Stud? No. He's 20 yrs older than me. We are compatible in other areas.

Posted by: di butler, qualified for Aussie porn at February 08, 2010 12:49 PM (S3xX1)

115 "107 I just bought a used VW Jetta. My friend Rachel's ran for at least 7 years (that I know of) with no problems, so I'm hoping for the best. My dad gave me his F-150 when I went to college (it was available and free) and that truck was a piece of crap. I don't think, in 7 years of "driving" it, it spent more than 6 months out of the shop. I say "driving" because it doesn't count as driving when you have to spend all that time in a shop. I will never drive a Ford again. So, Wigglesworth @6, I'm hoping for the best. :-/

None of that story has anything to do with the commercial. I'm just sharing.
Posted by: Ella"

A 7 year Jetta with no problems is a total anomaly.  But I'm sure you aren't the only one with a good anecdote.  Just do some research before you extrapolate that onto the brand... VWs are not where to go for cheap and rare repairs. 

Now, I have always had good luck with F-150s.  My fleet has 4 of them.  I never get any frills on them.  A/C and AM/FM.  Power nothing.  A hitch and a bedliner and I'm good to go.  They are union built, after all, but Ford makes good shit these days.

Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 12:50 PM (dUOK+)

116 I found the commercial to be mostly stupid -- like how will be arrested for plastic bags, plastic bottles and incandescent bulbs when they no longer exist?  In the future we'll only be allow to have what the eco-freaks allow us to have.

Other parts, like the garbage police could be part of the new green economy.

Posted by: rockhead at February 08, 2010 12:50 PM (RykTt)

118 "OMG, the suburban is such a big gas guzzler and you can get a comparable 4 wheel drive vehicle with more leg room that gives you better gas mileage and handles like a car.  I mean if you need excess trunk you can get a truck.
Posted by: curious"

Dude, the suburban has enough legroom.  You don't need more.

People who need suburbans have a hard time finding something quite right that competes.  Almost every other car is superior in many ways, but saying you found a car with better mileage and handling than a suburban is not saying much.

Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 12:51 PM (dUOK+)

119

an s4, and a CRX is a fuckin' deathtrap when compared to the allroad that I drive.

you obviously have a hard-on for audi and the people who drive them.  no big deal.  My ex owned two hondas, several friends own hondas, I don't fucking fit in them.  They are cheap pieces of shit.

I can afford to maintain and own any car I want. 

 I want an Audi allroad for the convenience of cargo space, comfort, ability to drive on an un-improved road in nearly any type of weather. Previously, I have owned suv's, but honestly, even they are too small inside. 

When I need to tow something - I have a 3/4 ton Chevy.  Piece of crap, but runs like a toip.

When I want to just drive, I have a 64 Galaxie XL 500 Rag-Top with a 390 4Spd.

When I want to pack my Mtn. Bikes, Tent, dogs, and hit the road for a month, I use my fucking audi.

What is the problem with that?

Want to save money?  Move to rural Wyoming.  It will save a lot more that driving a crapbox.

Posted by: garrett at February 08, 2010 12:51 PM (1+Izr)

120 The statement from Audi is the same as the commercial. To me it doesn't say anything (other than what people who read it think it says). People see what they want to see.

Posted by: Vivi at February 08, 2010 12:51 PM (PCf6X)

121 curious was being sarcastic, I just realized.

Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 12:52 PM (dUOK+)

122

It probably should be Bush's fault, when all is said and done but now, Palin owns it.

Just sayin'

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at February 08, 2010 12:52 PM (RkRxq)

123 Well, as someone in advertising, the spot accomplished a key goal. To get people to talk about it. Better yet, if you're a greentard it strokes you... you're unlikely to be offended by the absurdities of the Green Police concept. If you're a rational adult (in other words, not a greentard), it mocks greentard pieties. One thing about advertising is that no one can control how people will react to the ads. Agencies spend lots of time arguing about and testing ads before finalizing them. I suspect many of the people involved in creating the concept itself had competing loyalties, whether to greetardation or rationality. However, knowing advertising from working experience, I can guarantee you that the overwhelming attitude in that business is liberal/greentard. That any message emerged which mocked in any way the envirofascist pieties is remarkable.

Posted by: George Orwell (the real moron one, accept no substitute) at February 08, 2010 12:52 PM (AZGON)

124 There's no need to wonder.  Go to Audi's own site.  They are promoting a Green Agenda , complete with Green Police.  They are serious.


Go to audigreenpolice dot com

Posted by: mama winger at February 08, 2010 12:53 PM (Ue9UN)

125 some of us are old enough to remember Audi was the original runaway self acceleration car. I've had a couple of them. They sucked. Not Peugeot or Renault level suck though. 

Posted by: PR at February 08, 2010 12:53 PM (k7SeR)

126 Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 04:51 PM (dUOK+)

In the neighborhoods where the upper middle class reside there is a suburban in every driveway.  It is a status symbol.  "look I can buy a suburban, or shall I say, Lease a Suburban, can you?".....  I guess that is why I hate the car so much.

Posted by: curious at February 08, 2010 12:54 PM (p302b)

127

I love my '91 Chevy S-10. She's lovely (and yes, my vehicles are female) and in great shape with 228K on the odometer. She has some minor rust, but then again, so do I. A new fuel pump and she'll be back on the road again. Paid for, easy to work on, cheap parts, what's not to love.

I hope that GM can get back on its' feet soon and tell The Vapid One© to ESAD.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 08, 2010 12:54 PM (i3AsK)

128 "you obviously have a hard-on for audi and the people who drive them.  no big deal.  My ex owned two hondas, several friends own hondas, I don't fucking fit in them.  They are cheap pieces of shit."

You don't have an actual argument.  It's pretty obvious.  I like lots of different makes, and as I said, I don't like Hondas either.

But if you have to keep bashing Honda to defend your terrible Audi brand, you're pathetic.  Hondas cost like a third of an Audi whenever I compare them, and they have more legroom.  It's something you can measure, and the North American Accord is simply better there.  You probably already knew that.

You keep on and on and on about your great Audis, but you apparently know they suck or you wouldn't resort to completely bizarre arguments.

If you want to spend that kind of money on a car, get a good one.  Audis are for people who just don't understand cars.

Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 12:54 PM (dUOK+)

129 Brilliant commercial. Look how many people it has talking about Audi. People can read into the commercial whatever message they want, including that the enviro movement is a bunch of fascist BS that you are better off "steering" clear of; and the TDI diesel lets you avoid the eco-idiots in a fast get-away car.

Posted by: USA at February 08, 2010 12:55 PM (YZISw)

130 " I guess that is why I hate the car so much.

Posted by: curious at February 08, 2010 04:54 PM (p302b)"


LOL, I thought you were kidding.


The suburban is a terrible car by most measures, and yet, for people who get used to them, it's REALLY hard to find something that compares.  It's just a niche.  I agree that they are not a compelling vehicle.  I'm definitely not a Chevy fan.  Unless you're competing with an Audi or something really shitty like that, Chevies usually aren't a good choice.

Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 12:56 PM (dUOK+)

131 I think the President of Aidu USA has made some pretty unkind remarks about hybrids (or was it electric cars?) and about the whole "global warming" hype.  The main problem we have is that the government keeps trying to pick winners and sets up weird regulations that actually impede good, efficient technologies (such as diesel engines).  The beauty of the diesels is that they do get better fuel economy and you don't need to eat up a lot of trunk space for batteries like the hybrids require youto do.  A lot of other automakers (Honda, Ford, Toyota, Subaru, Hyundai, etc.) do sell great diesel cars, but regulations in the U.S. (particularly in California) actually make it very difficult to import these vehicles, and that's a pity.

As far as VW/Audi are concerned, I believe they were bought up by Porsche, and that has led to an improvement in quality.  In addition, the diesel versions of the Vws have been more reliable than the gassers for quite some time now.  Besides, these cars are also a lot more fun, and reliable, with a stick shift.  The main failing of the VWs has been electrical parts, and with any luck that's been improving also.  The other big problem has been the stealerships who never really knew how to fix them.

I had this 1986 diesel Golf for many years.  Great car, got 50 mpg rowing the gears through the streets of DC.  It had enormous hatch space.  What was really fun was getting past those obnoxious greenie cyclists who would never use the bike trails that we spend all those tax dollars building for them.  Then I would give them a lungful of diesel exhaust.  Ever since they took most of the diesel fuel it hasn't been as much fun to do that.  And yeah, that Golf did get a bit expensive to maintain after awhile.

Hybrids are for wimps and sissies.  REAL men drive diesels!

Posted by: Ron at February 08, 2010 12:57 PM (GH96s)

132 In defense of hondas...have had friends who owned hondas and they did  not take care of them, never changed the oil or the filters and such cause well, they could barely afford the car payments and the gas and figured when the car complained they would service it.  My friend's honda went for 200,000 miles before it peeped.

Posted by: curious at February 08, 2010 12:57 PM (p302b)

133

I can only imagine how many folks out there muttered "if only they did that for real" (or something similar) when they saw that ad.

Hell, there are mayors and citiy council members in many places that took notes.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 08, 2010 12:58 PM (B+qrE)

134 There's no need to wonder.  Go to Audi's own site.  They are promoting a Green Agenda , complete with Green Police.  They are serious.

SECONDED

Posted by: Druid at February 08, 2010 12:58 PM (Gct7d)

135 125, 133  Wait, hold up. lemme grab some popcorn and allow me to get comfy.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at February 08, 2010 12:59 PM (nd+1J)

136 I make my own cars. Cuts out the middle man.

Posted by: iowahawk at February 08, 2010 12:59 PM (veL4N)

137 The toyota sequoia, before they decided to tweak it and change everything, not for the better, was a great truck. 

Posted by: curious at February 08, 2010 01:00 PM (p302b)

138 Just googled it up, and the Accord does have more legroom than an A4.  They cost less than half (depending on features).

Oh, and the Accord is faster if that actually matters.  If you want a fast car, you shouldn't really be buying either of these cars.  They really don't compare.  The Honda is a much better value, but no one is surprised by that.

What's so funny is that the Audi nutjob bashed Hondas for one of the few objective measures that the cars can be neatly compared on, and the Audi still is the loser POS.

but lordy almighty are Hondas ugly these days.  I guess the $30,000 you save will make that feel OK, these days, but Honda hasn't made a pretty car for at least 3 years.

Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 01:00 PM (dUOK+)

139 I guess one of the salient points being made, which is very true, is that you already had to be in the market for that kind of car. In which case, no matter which side of the line you were on it was a good commercial.

But again anyone eyeballing an F-250 with an off-road and towing package, probably was not even swayed in the slightest to buy this Audi ad. Greenies, metro's, and those sane people stuck in deep blue encampments of insanity, whom need to maintain that completely non-threatening image, may have seen something they liked. 

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at February 08, 2010 01:00 PM (0q2P7)

140

What is Bizarrre about the argument?  I have owned an Accord (the Ex-Wife's), they are pieces of crap.  A new one is not worth the cost of a used Audi in my opinion. 

Sure they are cheap , but so is a fat and ugly hooker.

My experience is contrary to your 'research'.  Want to banty about that argumentation?

One thing you can't take into account by reading consumer reports is that the leg room in the Hondas comes at the cost of the passengers in the rear set or corgo space. 

You are simply trolling and I should have noticed by now... 

.

Posted by: garrett at February 08, 2010 01:00 PM (1+Izr)

141 Audi smeared itself in green poop. Not appealing. Won't buy.

Most ads are obnoxious, products of stupidly educated advertisers and oriented to insult everyone. No ad can bully me into buying something.

Posted by: maverick muse at February 08, 2010 01:00 PM (+CLh/)

142 FTR
VW and Audi seem ungodly expensive for the product you get. It must be an image thing.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at February 08, 2010 01:01 PM (0q2P7)

143

One advantage Audi has over Honda is driving experience.

The Honda is akin to some watered down American brand like Bud Light while Audi is a full-flavored import.

Of course, this only counts if you spring for all wheel drive. Otherwise you get the same bland experience you do from any other front-driver.

Posted by: Scott J. at February 08, 2010 01:01 PM (NY7mQ)

144
below 10K, huh?

Barack Hussein Obama mmmmm mmmmm mmmmm

Posted by: This is Kissel at February 08, 2010 01:01 PM (z37MR)

145

142 I make my own cars. Cuts out the middle man.

I know, the jealousy abounds...one of the many reasons I am a fan!

Posted by: garrett at February 08, 2010 01:01 PM (1+Izr)

146 I leased an Audi 5000 once and it was absolutely the worst car I ever had. It was so bad I took it back to the dealer and gave them the keys and said send me a bill for whatever I owe on the balance of this disaster. They did which was the balance of the lease payments, I gladly paid it and moved on. It was a terrible car.

Posted by: robtr at February 08, 2010 01:02 PM (fwSHf)

147
What's the opposite of a cowbell?

Posted by: This is Kissel at February 08, 2010 01:03 PM (z37MR)

148 curious, I told my mom in law to try the Sequioa.  It's huge, and it's probably much more reliable than Chevies (huge Toyotas aren't really the most reliable, though they are certainly above average).

for some reason, she hated it.  I think most suburban owners like the long slick feel of the suburban.  The Suburban is really just a more stylish van these days.  It's got all kinds of room and I think it's very comfortable for a roadtrip.  But I'd buy the Seqouia too (I can't spell this one).

I just wouldn't want that kind of car, though.  A nice wagon (not an Audi, if you hadn't noticed) would be better for me.  A 5 series wagon, perhaps.  BMW is not superstar of reliability, for for performance wagons are much better than other european competitors.

Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 01:03 PM (dUOK+)

149 I have this strange urge to turn on all the lights in my apartment, bake 15 pizzas (needs a 500-degree oven), take two hot baths and then go idle my car for an hour.

When is the Hour of Power this year?  It's my favoritest made-up holiday.

Posted by: HeatherRaadish at February 08, 2010 01:03 PM (mR7mk)

150 It might have been a brilliant commercial, and everyone might be talking about it, but I now know that I would never ever buy an audi, never.    But, then again, I believe that a car is a depreciating asset so you should buy the best car you can get to meet your needs for the least amount of money and then take what you save and buy an appreciating asset.

Posted by: curious at February 08, 2010 01:04 PM (p302b)

151 I had a dog in my lap.

Posted by: Holger at February 08, 2010 01:05 PM (8NGHm)

152 Notice how many resources are used by the Green Police to stomp down on even miniscule infractions? Sounds like Al Gore basically.

Posted by: sexypig at February 08, 2010 01:05 PM (0t7L8)

153 FORD makes some nice vehicles now.

Given the possibility of a real economic meltdown, it's interesting to note how many of the auto manufacturers are sharing technology and design features in common, foreign and domestic.

Posted by: maverick muse at February 08, 2010 01:05 PM (+CLh/)

154 "

One advantage Audi has over Honda is driving experience.

The Honda is akin to some watered down American brand like Bud Light while Audi is a full-flavored import.

Of course, this only counts if you spring for all wheel drive. Otherwise you get the same bland experience you do from any other front-driver.

Posted by: Scott J. at February 08, 2010 05:01 PM (NY7mQ)"


this actually goes right to what I was saying way earlier.  People buy Audis because they are kinda stupid about cars and want to make a statement.  You're comparing your car to one that cost a third and is faster and is better built.  To make some kind of statement about imported whatever.  No sweat.  I'd rather have a BMW or something if I needed to get my Eurotrash on.  But if you're happy spending $40,000 on a car that will break, it's all about Audi.

I agree that Honda isn't really an import.  It's almost a soul-less brand at this point.  Then, it's not about making a statement.  the only people who think Hondas make a statement are idiot ricers.

Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 01:06 PM (dUOK+)

155 Is that the appropriate method of collaring an anteater?  If I were an anteater, I think I would object.

Posted by: profligatewaste at February 08, 2010 01:06 PM (b3rrc)

156

Audi is going to be punished for that ad on both sides of the isle. It was a big mistake for them to attempt to make a political statement at this point of the debate.

I think everybody has misread that ad.

I ask myself, being a person who is concerned about gas mileage and polution, "does that add make me want to buy an Audi?" No it doesn't, it actually pisses me off and I will never by an Audi because of that ad, where as, I may have before hand if the situation was right.

I ask my friends who are crazy Lefties, "Does that ad make you want to buy an Audi?" typical response has been "No!" That add pisses them off too, because they think they are being made fun of, and they are viewing the ad as disrespectful to the Environmental Debate.  

So it will interersting to see Audi numbers a year from now.

Posted by: Jimi at February 08, 2010 01:07 PM (fqxV7)

157 curious, many of us have 5 kids and pulled sports utility trailers and such behind them camping vacations and stuff, nor everyone, but they do great outdoor lifestyles,

Posted by: willow at February 08, 2010 01:07 PM (5Bf/7)

158 Regarding quality issues: Two Audi FSI Engines Made Ward’s “10 Best Engines” List for 2010 Among all 2010 model-year vehicles, the Audi A5 earned a spot on the overall “Top 10 Model” list, and the A5 won Best Resale Value in the “Luxury Car” category by Kelley Blue Book. Audi received 2010 “Most Improved Loyalty to Make“ award from R. L. Polk

Posted by: USA at February 08, 2010 01:07 PM (YZISw)

159 I am, and always will be a loyal Honda owner.  Maintenance costs are nearly non-existent.  The doors will fall off of a Honda before the engine stops running.

Posted by: Christopher Calandro at February 08, 2010 01:08 PM (JdbYk)

160
Saab is done?

What a stupid car. A lot of large-boned women drive Saabs.

Posted by: This is Kissel at February 08, 2010 01:08 PM (z37MR)

161 Posted by: willow at February 08, 2010 05:07 PM (5Bf/7)

willow, you bought the suburban for the right reasons.  You didn't buy it to rub in your friends faces, as a status symbol.  But I still hate it, always have and I've ridden in the back of a lot of suburbans.

Posted by: curious at February 08, 2010 01:09 PM (p302b)

162 I would assume the Audi, when it's not in the shop, would be a very good handling car.

The, so would an S2000 or a Vette or something.  If you bought an Audi for performance... you might as well have bought a Chevy for reliability.  It can be done, but it's not effective.

Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 01:09 PM (dUOK+)

163

This thread is in serious need of some estrogen.

Here I'll go: Nordstrom's has the new Stuart Weitzman Slingback.

Anyone, anyone...?

*crickets*

Posted by: laceyunderalls at February 08, 2010 01:09 PM (nd+1J)

164 161 Is that the appropriate method of collaring an anteater?  If I were an anteater, I think I would object.

Posted by: profligatewaste at February 08, 2010 05:06 PM (b3rrc)

NO Anteaters were injured during the filming of this commercial.

Posted by: Audi Marketing Department at February 08, 2010 01:10 PM (Vu6sl)

165 curious, hell the back of any 4x4 is rough, especially if you are stuck with the kids, and the Mom, he touched me stuff.

Posted by: willow at February 08, 2010 01:10 PM (5Bf/7)

166 Maybe this video from Audi's "Green Police" channel will add further information to the discussion.

Posted by: Richard at February 08, 2010 01:10 PM (Y/4ua)

167 132 - you fuckin on me?! My garage = H2, Yukon Denali, Corvette and Camaro... Living the dream baby, don't be hatin'...

Posted by: Joy to the whirled at February 08, 2010 01:10 PM (WVBjj)

168

I'm not getting into your brand trolling Wiggles. I know you love your fart cannoned Honda.

But a front wheel drive econobox is fine if you view your car as an appliance like your microwave.

It's not a eurotrash thing either.

The CTS is a fine ride but I find it butt-ugly and now its government motors.

The Lexus IS is a wonderful machine too but a bit snug inside.

Posted by: Scott J. at February 08, 2010 01:11 PM (NY7mQ)

169 Don't forget the target market for Audi. It is a car bought by enthusiasts or people who enjoy performance and heritage. (Whether or not Audi deserves that reputation is immaterial; their market is not Kia's nor Toyota's nor Ford's.) Now, if some of those potential Audi buyers want to benefit from either more fuel economy or assuage their green prejudices, or both, you can now buy an Audi that is a "cool car" AND gets a pass from the Church of Greentardation. I suspect many Audi drivers, potential or actual, are a little put off by things like the Prius and their fruitcake demographic, even though they would like to think of themselves as "green." It's not much different from the "serious" greeny crap pushed by Apple. (disclosure, this in typed on a MBP) They can tout how this or that new laptop or iPod is lead-free or mercury-free and highly recyclable, but in the end it is an electronic device, made by and reliant upon a highly non-green manufacturing chain. That's just the nature of things, and cars are no different. Audi, just like every other large business, can't afford to ignore consumers' thirst for a "green" indulgence to burnish their purchases. If those Green Police were really green, they would walk.

Posted by: George Orwell at February 08, 2010 01:11 PM (AZGON)

170

Slingback, huh?

Would we need to take you shopping for a cute little dress to go with those?

Posted by: garrett at February 08, 2010 01:11 PM (1+Izr)

171 I am probably in a minority where I am starting to think the whole superbowl commercial thing is just really annoying.  Every year there is maybe one or at most a couple that were really worth sitting through, and to get there you need to sit through all the same peurile bullshitt that is rendered superbowl worthy by being louder and more frenetic.  Bah.


Posted by: doug at February 08, 2010 01:11 PM (uIGjr)

172 USA, I don't think that's a good marker of quality.

BMW's straight 6 was considered the best engine in the world for every year their build quality was abysmal.

And Honda probably still wins.  Their V-6 is a much less amazing engine, but it's more powerful and reliable.  I'm very happy that Audi is making good Diesels, but I wish a real carmaker would make a good diesel.

Initial impression != quality in my book.  How the car is doing after 200,000 miles is what makes it a great design.

Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 01:12 PM (dUOK+)

173
You know what I hate?

Macs.

Posted by: This is Kissel at February 08, 2010 01:12 PM (z37MR)

174 Posted by: willow at February 08, 2010 05:10 PM (5Bf/7)

seriously, I'm not alone.  Most of my friends, even if they have ten kids, won't buy a Suburban.  And now, after what the unions did to them and that they are government owned, no thank you.  Can't wait for them to go down the tubes actually.  Then we can be done with this crap and move on.

Posted by: curious at February 08, 2010 01:12 PM (p302b)

175 Boy this is a brilliant ad. At first I did not like it..but after seeing it a few more times...it is great. Audi is being opportunistic here and they get away with it. Audi offers a very clean diesel, greens can't attack it because it pollutes much less, but it is larger and more of a car than the "golf cart" like vehicles that DC would like all Americans to drive. The main problem with electric and hybrid cars is how to dispose of the batteries once their useful life is ended. Diesel avoids that big problem. Most Americans are less aware of the advances in diesel technology and think hybrid is the best way to go. The media and green community refuses to debate or admit the cost or issues with disposal. Many liberals would love a green or eco police. (unlike the commercial) this force would not be 100% white, but multi-cultural and thrive on arresting white males who drive pick up trucks and SUV's. Those congressional districts that gave 65% of their vote would love this. What liberals don't get and what makes the commercial brilliant is that they would do the exact same things that we see in the commercial. Even better imaging school children indoctrinated by BHO and the NEA to inform on their parents and neighbors who use to much energy.

Posted by: John at February 08, 2010 01:12 PM (6FYZ6)

176
So...when is Big Hollywood going to do a Green Cops TV spoof? It was done to stormtroopers as Troops. You call it...I dunno, maybe...Greeno 911?

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at February 08, 2010 01:12 PM (1hM1d)

177

107   Ella, ignore the naysayers, I have nothing but love for my 9-year-old Jetta.  I house it on the streets of New York City in the elements and I drive it daily under ridiculous stop and go conditions.  The first and only repair I had with it came a few months ago (distrib. cap issue).  Other than that, I've never done anything to it except oil changes and topping off fluids and replacing the battery (which only came quite recently).  I just got my inspection done this past weekend - no repairs necessary.  Then again, my particular vehicle was actually German-manufactured, not made in Mexico or Hungary. 

As for the Hondas, while reliable, they're rather easy to steal (as a few relatives experiences have borne out).  I'm happy not having to fiddle with The Club everytime I park, and quite content knowing that should someone try to hijack my baby, they won't be able to turn the ignition. 

 

Posted by: La Mauvaise New Yorkaise at February 08, 2010 01:13 PM (At4LC)

178 "

I'm not getting into your brand trolling Wiggles. I know you love your fart cannoned Honda.

But a front wheel drive econobox is fine if you view your car as an appliance like your microwave.

It's not a eurotrash thing either.

The CTS is a fine ride but I find it butt-ugly and now its government motors.

The Lexus IS is a wonderful machine too but a bit snug inside.

Posted by: Scott J"

I already said I didn't like Hondas.  Some idiot said he prefered Audis because they have more legroom than hondas that have more legroom and I was making fun of that.  Honda is what it is.  It's a soulless car that is very good at what it is.  I think they are ugly, I already said so the first time I mentioned the maker.

and of COURSE it's a eurotrash thing.  Good grief.

Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 01:14 PM (dUOK+)

179

i loved all my suburbans Damn you to Hell --GM!

fabulous vacations with all our kids, camping fishing (no i don't bait the hooks) creeks mountains, rivers, love it. and our children do too.

Posted by: willow at February 08, 2010 01:14 PM (5Bf/7)

180 curious, now, i won't either. none of my family will.

Posted by: willow at February 08, 2010 01:14 PM (5Bf/7)

181 176 Nope! They'd look waaaay better with jeans.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at February 08, 2010 01:15 PM (nd+1J)

182

Some idiot said he prefered Audis

Easy, now....lacey wearing 'Team Garrett' t-shirt

Posted by: laceyunderalls at February 08, 2010 01:17 PM (nd+1J)

183 While I don't hate macs, I have a real problem with mac fanboys... and I use a damn mac. Uh oh, religious wars!

Posted by: George Orwell at February 08, 2010 01:17 PM (AZGON)

184 Suburans, oh the memories... 5 kids and two adults making the 5 hr drive every weekend in the winter to the ski hill and occasional tromps to random parts if the country when Dad said, "Let's go see what's out there!"

Posted by: Vivi at February 08, 2010 01:17 PM (PCf6X)

185 177 I am probably in a minority where I am starting to think the whole superbowl commercial thing is just really annoying.


Posted by: doug at February 08, 2010 05:11 PM (uIGjr)

It was a different Superbowl this year; lousy commercials and a good game.

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 08, 2010 01:18 PM (xxgag)

186 Vivi, lovely isn't it. the only thing more we needed was duct tape and the  courage to use it

Posted by: willow at February 08, 2010 01:18 PM (5Bf/7)

187 If you have to compare your $50,000 or $40,000 car to a $20,000 car that wasn't even designed for performance, you already lost the damn battle.

Also, Audi drivers are the highest ratio of homosexual drivers of any maker.  that's an actual statistic according to "Out Magazine".  I have nothing against man-purses or pink jeans.   They just aren't for me.  OK, I have something against them.  They are stupid.  Like Audis.  And Jetta, btw.  Gay gay gay gay gay.

Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 01:18 PM (dUOK+)

188

and of COURSE it's a eurotrash thing.  Good grief.

Not really.

If Ford would bring to market a sedan in rear or all wheel drive with the engine and tansmission mounted longitudinally in the chassis as God intended I'd be first in line to have a look were I in the market for a new car.

I had an Integra GSR for awhile. Yes, it was fast. No, it rarely every had issues. But at its heart it was simply an econobox.

My SVT Cobra was much more fun even though I know its build quality didn't match the Accura (Honda).

Posted by: Scott J. at February 08, 2010 01:19 PM (NY7mQ)

189 seriously, the best family wheels in existance for a family that likes to be very active and travel (via car)

Posted by: willow at February 08, 2010 01:19 PM (5Bf/7)

190 Posted by: willow at February 08, 2010 05:14 PM (5Bf/7)

It actually makes me happy to hear that you love your Suburban.  That's good, that's what you want to hear from a car owner.   But I honestly can say, I hate what the unions did to GM and what GM allowed the unions to do.  I hate the fact that they are owned by us, the American people.  I guess I hate the money pit and abject failure that is GM.  I feel bad for toyota.  They were a good car company and now they are going to be torn apart.  I'm waiting for them to start attacking Ford when they realize that most people are avoiding GM.  I'm not alone.  If they took polls they would find out that a lot of people are quietly vowing never  ever, never ever to buy a GM car, on general principle.  I mean, I've heard people say "they can give them away, I'm not taking one"  and they mean it, they really mean it.

Posted by: curious at February 08, 2010 01:19 PM (p302b)

191 There's nothing hawter than a metrosexual in a Green Police Uniform. Mmmmm..Mmmmm...Mmmmmm!

Posted by: extremely wet greentard at February 08, 2010 01:19 PM (Vu6sl)

192 Other parts, like the garbage police could be part of the new green economy.

 

The city of Seattle already has the garbage police.  They randomly go through people's garbage.  I think the first violation is a warning, but eventually they impose fines.  I'm so glad I live in the suburbs across the lake from Seattle, but I always worry we'll be next (moonbattery always begins there).


Posted by: runningrn at February 08, 2010 01:20 PM (CfmlF)

193 Suburans, oh the memories...

I took drivers' ed in a Suburban.  Parallel parking was emphatically not covered.

Posted by: HeatherRaadish at February 08, 2010 01:20 PM (mR7mk)

194

Here we go...Wiggles, you pin prick little bitch.  Calling me an idiot for stating  my experience - WTF???

I never once mentioned 'Leg-Room' per. 

That was you.  I said I don't fit in Hondas. 

I have a 46" chest, I have a 37" waist, and I am not a fat shit.  I do not fit inside of a Honda.  I look like a fuckin' bear at the circus inside one.

You obviously like to pinch pennies and use others' reviews as fodder for an argument you have no chance of winning. because you argue from a false platform of knowledge.

  Again, I offered my empirical experience and you offer numbers from a Consumer Reports review.

Go fuck yourself you cheap bastard.

 

Posted by: garrett at February 08, 2010 01:20 PM (1+Izr)

195 Why would Ford go backwards and bring a rear wheel drive car to the market?

Posted by: curious at February 08, 2010 01:21 PM (p302b)

196

As for the Hondas, while reliable, they're rather easy to steal (as a few relatives experiences have borne out).  I'm happy not having to fiddle with The Club everytime I park, and quite content knowing that should someone try to hijack my baby, they won't be able to turn the ignition. 

 

I have an Accord.  It's one of the most stolen cars in Seattle.  I got Lojack on it.  Still...

Posted by: runningrn at February 08, 2010 01:21 PM (CfmlF)

197 I got no dog in this hunt, I've never even seen an Audi let alone set foot in one.

Posted by: Holger at February 08, 2010 01:22 PM (8NGHm)

198 199 Suburans, oh the memories...

I took drivers' ed in a Suburban.  Parallel parking was emphatically not covered.
  Heh!

Posted by: runningrn at February 08, 2010 01:22 PM (CfmlF)

199

lacey wearing 'Team Garrett' t-shirt

Give me one of those. I'm jealous of his rural WY location.

If I could ever sell the wife on the Winters and find a coding gig that pays close to what I earn now.

Posted by: Scott J. at February 08, 2010 01:22 PM (NY7mQ)

200 Leo Decaprio and David Axelrod have several things in common.

One is that they both drive Audi.

LOL.

Just kidding around, but comparing driving excitment to Honda kinda ignores that there are some other examples.  Hell, in the Audi price range, you can compare to Vettes and shittier Porsches and several BMWs.  All of which are better designs.

Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 01:22 PM (dUOK+)

201

I can only hope I'm as much of a spitfire as she is at 88...

Most folks that age are.  Old ladies kick butt.

Posted by: katya at February 08, 2010 01:24 PM (meVmo)

202

Give me one of those. I'm jealous of his rural WY location.

If I could ever sell the wife on the Winters and find a coding gig that pays close to what I earn now.

I'm in Montuckey, but same difference.  Only need about 1/2of what you make in most other places, though.

...and you get to eat Filet instead of just Steak!

Posted by: garrett at February 08, 2010 01:24 PM (1+Izr)

203

Why would Ford go backwards and bring a rear wheel drive car to the market?

Um, what?

You actually consider front wheel drive an upgrade?

Posted by: Scott J. at February 08, 2010 01:25 PM (NY7mQ)

204 That said, I wouldn't mind getting into an Audi R8 and ragging it out.

Posted by: Holger at February 08, 2010 01:25 PM (8NGHm)

205 katya, I think if you make it to 88, you can say whatever the hell you want and if someone doesn't like it, tough.  

Posted by: curious at February 08, 2010 01:25 PM (p302b)

206

This thread is in serious need of some estrogen.

Here I'll go: Nordstrom's has the new Stuart Weitzman Slingback.

Anyone, anyone...?

*crickets*

 

I love slingbacks! 

Posted by: runningrn at February 08, 2010 01:25 PM (CfmlF)

207 I'm a strapping 5'6.  Like me, Honda engineers, Japanese gentlemen, are short.

Thus, I've always appreciated the ergonomics of Honda's cockpit designs.

Posted by: Christopher Calandro at February 08, 2010 01:26 PM (JdbYk)

208 Oh, and FWIW, I liked the ad (Rush did too).  I thought it was funny, and yeah, they are trying to pick up customers on both sides.  It's smart marketing.

Posted by: runningrn at February 08, 2010 01:26 PM (CfmlF)

209 Posted by: Scott J. at February 08, 2010 05:25 PM (NY7mQ)

I've never driven anything but front wheel drive.  Isn't rear wheel drive sort of old technology.  I'm not a car person so don't yell at me.  Be nice and explain.

Posted by: curious at February 08, 2010 01:26 PM (p302b)

210

  Hell, in the Audi price range, you can compare to Vettes and shittier Porsches and several BMWs.  All of which are better designs.

Wow, you are a consumer reports / car and driver dipshit. 

Those are you choices for spending $50k on a driving experience?

...corvette, well designed? 

 Ha!

Posted by: garrett at February 08, 2010 01:26 PM (1+Izr)

211

katya, I think if you make it to 88, you can say whatever the hell you want and if someone doesn't like it, tough.  

My opinion exactly.  The older I get, the mouthier I get.  Kind of complicated for a preacher's wife.  I really gotta watch myself sometimes.

Posted by: katya at February 08, 2010 01:28 PM (meVmo)

212

Hell, in the Audi price range, you can compare to Vettes and shittier Porsches and several BMWs

Vettes and Porsches aren't exactly sedans.

When we were buying we cross-shopped BMW but my wife wanted an automatic after 5 years of rowing gears and Audi's tiptronic was better than the slushboxes in the BMW or Lexus.

Posted by: Scott J. at February 08, 2010 01:29 PM (NY7mQ)

213 I'm waiting for the Government Motors commercial with "I want you to want me" in it. Or perhaps the Army commercial with "Surrender"? Maybe with some pictures of Iraq in the background? Boo hiss, you silly ad agencies!!

Posted by: KF at February 08, 2010 01:29 PM (tCJ3l)

214 Slingbacks? Is that like a fastback?

Posted by: Holger at February 08, 2010 01:30 PM (8NGHm)

215 willow - So true. Actually, Dad's attitude of getting in and driving to see what you discover has stuck and I do it myself. That Suburban made it through hundred of trips and survived five teenage drivers without fail. Loved it.

Posted by: Vivi at February 08, 2010 01:30 PM (PCf6X)

216 Many liberals would love a green or eco police. (unlike the commercial) this force would not be 100% white, but multi-cultural and thrive on arresting white males who drive pick up trucks and SUV's. Actually if you notice carefully, some of the green police are non-white or female. But, nota bene, every single one of the "offenders" are white. I can guarantee you with gilt-edged confidence that this decision was deliberate. Working in advertising for twenty years I have noted with incredible predictability something rarely violated. There is an unspoken rule that the "doofus" or "bad guy" in any ad may not be non-white, and usually not female. Furthermore non-white characters in a commercial are seldom permitted to do anything "mistaken" or appear even vaguely unsavory Example: Just recently on a proposed commercial there was supposed to be some guys coming out of a convenience store. You normally have to have non-whites for "diversity;" that is just a rule nowadays. All of the characters were supposed to be gluttons, buying tons of junk food. Originally all the guys were to be carrying beer as well as other junk, but then we were directed to remove the beer from the black guy. Why? Blacks don't buy beer like anyone else? I think you know why that happened. Then they just took all the beer out, since the dodge became too obvious. This happens all the time. So look again, and the commercial is hilarious... all the offenders are white. It could not have been otherwise in the PC world of advertising.

Posted by: George Orwell at February 08, 2010 01:30 PM (AZGON)

217

Porsche has the laziest designers, reissuing the same shitty design for decades! 

Well built, sure, but the 911 platform has to be the longest running poor design in history!?!?

Posted by: garrett at February 08, 2010 01:31 PM (1+Izr)

218 If you buy an Audi today, you are worse than Hitler.  At least when it comes to choosing efficient and effective machines.

Also, their new car smell is rated C-.

Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 01:31 PM (dUOK+)

219 Both people who sued McDonalds for coffee burns were driving Audis.  Probably meaningless statistic, but yeah, douches.

John Edwards famously had a white S4.  Douche.  And the car he bought Rielle was an A4.  Douche.

Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 01:33 PM (dUOK+)

220

 has to be the longest running poor design in history!?!?

...Cornballer -  it's still in production in Mexico.

Just Sayin'...and there's always money in the Banana Stand!

Posted by: George Bluth at February 08, 2010 01:33 PM (1+Izr)

221 Jonbenet Ramsey was killed by an Audi.

Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 01:34 PM (dUOK+)

222 Actually VW bought Porsche. But don't worry its all in the family with those guys.

Posted by: Iblis at February 08, 2010 01:35 PM (9221z)

223

I've never driven anything but front wheel drive.  Isn't rear wheel drive sort of old technology.  I'm not a car person so don't yell at me.  Be nice and explain.

OK, IMO front-wheel-drive exists because its cheaper to build. Your driveline is a unit that just gets bolted to the front of the chassis.

It was originally touted (in my memory at least) as a fuel-saving measure but I really think it just allowed the companies to cut costs.

From a performance perspective with a front-driver you're asking those tiny little contact patches on the front tires to both steer the car and get the propulsive force to the road. This has an adverse effect on handling.

With the rear driver you split those duties and the handling (and totally subjective overall driving experience) improves.

All-wheel-drive is another matter altogheter and it really matters if it's front biased, rear biased, 50/50 or can distribute forces as needed.

I will say that front drive does have a slight advantage over rear drive in slick conditions since you have more weight over the driven wheels.

Posted by: Scott J. at February 08, 2010 01:35 PM (NY7mQ)

224 Jonbenet Ramsey was killed by an Audi.

Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 05:34 PM (dUOK+)

I thought she was killed by a ginger.

Posted by: Holger at February 08, 2010 01:36 PM (8NGHm)

225 Michael Bay decided to use an Audi for the gayest Transformer in the series, Barricade.  Because even a douche like Bay marvels at the douchey properties of Audi.

the 4 rings represent the buttholes of the village people.  I am not joking.

Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 01:37 PM (dUOK+)

226 "you asshole, I swear Audis are more fun to drive than that Honda Odyssey!!!!"

A) that's pathetic

B) no, they aren't

C) the word Audi is the egyptian word for limp

Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 01:38 PM (dUOK+)

227

If you buy an Audi today, you are worse than Hitler.

Hey Goodwin, step back and get a bit of perspective, will you? You're sounding a bit unhinged and Olbermannesque.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at February 08, 2010 01:39 PM (nd+1J)

228 When Andrew Sullivan dreams about Barack Obama, he whispers "oh! oh... oh! Oh!!!!"

And it is no coincidence that this also spells the Audi logo.

Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 01:40 PM (dUOK+)

229 lacey, it's "godwin".

Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 01:41 PM (dUOK+)

230 Michael Bay decided to use an Audi for the gayest Transformer in the series, Barricade.  Because even a douche like Bay marvels at the douchey properties of Audi.

No, Barricade was a Saleen S281.

Posted by: Holger at February 08, 2010 01:41 PM (8NGHm)

231

I'm in Montuckey, but same difference.  Only need about 1/2of what you make in most other places, though.

Yeah, but if I could have the salary I have here out there.....

What a spread I could own.

Plus the heating costs have to be obscene.

Posted by: Scott J. at February 08, 2010 01:41 PM (NY7mQ)

232 not that it matters how you spell "godwin". 

I guess I could point out that Audi was the first company to employ nazi comparisons in their advertisements, but it's not like they ever stopped promoting fascism.  Hell, look at the ad at the top of this thread!

Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 01:43 PM (dUOK+)

233 Audis now have little twinkle lights below their headlights, so that everyone knows you like sparkles when you drive at night.

Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 01:44 PM (dUOK+)

234 I saw an author on BookTV last weekend (Catherine Lutz, who wrote Carjacked) who said it doesn't matter what car you buy, most of its carbon footprint is in its production.

Posted by: FireHorse at February 08, 2010 01:44 PM (cQyWA)

235 Didn't Mercedes supply engines to the Luftwaffe?

Posted by: Scott J. at February 08, 2010 01:44 PM (NY7mQ)

236 I thought the ad was great. Of course, it didn't hurt that one one of my  friends is in it. He's the tv reporter at the 30 second mark.   Made me laugh when I saw him.

Posted by: DelD at February 08, 2010 01:45 PM (eWtdM)

237 "
No, Barricade was a Saleen S281.
Posted by: Holger"

Oh, I didn't actually watch the movie.  Michael Bay sucks.

Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 01:45 PM (dUOK+)

238 "241 Didn't Mercedes supply engines to the Luftwaffe? Posted by: Scott J."

So did BMW, the other non gay Nazi car company that today is pretty kickass.

Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 01:46 PM (dUOK+)

239

235 Ah, so you're familiar then. Good job. Now try some *comprehension*.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at February 08, 2010 01:46 PM (nd+1J)

240

most of its carbon footprint is in its production

So if you buy used like me then you recycle that footprint.

And hot rodders like Iowahawk were the original recyclers of the car world.

Posted by: Scott J. at February 08, 2010 01:46 PM (NY7mQ)

241 Oh, I didn't actually watch the movie.  Michael Bay sucks.

Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 05:45 PM (dUOK+)

He sucks I agree but I've always been a fan of the franchise. And he did use an Audi R8 as Decepticon Sidways.

Posted by: Holger at February 08, 2010 01:47 PM (8NGHm)

242 Now this could be a problem..... The Green Police was a name used in Nazi Germany to refer to the German Order Police, or Orpo, who were given the moniker because of their green uniforms. The Orpo weren't merely traffic cops, however. According to the Jewish Virtual Library, one battalion was central in sending Jews, Poles and Gypsies to concentration camps. http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/battalion101.html

Posted by: USA at February 08, 2010 01:48 PM (YZISw)

243 Holger, Audi was also heavily brand placed in the first Iron Man movie.

Posted by: Scott J. at February 08, 2010 01:49 PM (NY7mQ)

244 "You picked the wrong day to mess with the ecosystem, plastic boy!"

Posted by: Comrade Arthur at February 08, 2010 01:50 PM (kWh60)

245

We get it. You reaaaaally do not like the sparkly gays with their man purses and pink jeans.

Project much?

Posted by: laceyunderalls at February 08, 2010 01:50 PM (nd+1J)

246 Captain Planet's Planeteermobile was an S4.

Which I admit, was apt.

Because Audis are for weenies.

Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 01:50 PM (dUOK+)

247

We get it. You reaaaaally do not like the sparkly gays with their man purses and pink jeans.

Project much?

Posted by: laceyunderalls

Oh, I'm just being a dick.  I don't actually have a problem with Audis or hot studs.

Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 01:51 PM (dUOK+)

248

If you buy an Audi today, you are worse than Hitler.

Hey Goodwin, step back and get a bit of perspective


Lacey, that's a catchphrase from Greg Gutfield.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at February 08, 2010 01:52 PM (mR7mk)

249 Google "audis are homosexual" and "audis are heterosexual"

3 times as many pages pointing out the scientific FACT that Audis are homosexual.

I do not have a problem with gays.  I actually think we should not care what goes on behind closed doors.  I am just trying to help meterosexuals and effettes find the right car.

Gays fight and die for their country and are often great people.  I don't have a problem with them at all.  But Audis are their preferred auto.

Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 01:54 PM (dUOK+)

250 I know that, but I wasn't sure if Mr. Pink Jeans did, so.....

Posted by: laceyunderalls at February 08, 2010 01:55 PM (nd+1J)

251 Furthermore non-white characters in a commercial are seldom permitted to do anything "mistaken" or appear even vaguely unsavory


That's why I was surprised that the folks in the Doritos ad with the kid who slapped his mother's boyfriend were black.  Even if that made it more "believable" (80% illegitimacy rate, yo), you've got a violent child, a lousy mother, and a horndog (and/or abuser, depending on how you read the kid's reaction).  "Sensitivity" demands they all be trailer-park whiteys.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at February 08, 2010 01:56 PM (mR7mk)

252 Watch the commercial.

Imagine the kind of person who would watch it and then spend $50,000 on a car.

There you go.

Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 01:57 PM (dUOK+)

253 This whole commercial is nothing but the tail wagging the dog.

Posted by: Darth Nihilus69 at February 08, 2010 01:57 PM (GfYt/)

254 Google "audis are homosexual" and "audis are heterosexual"

3 times as many pages pointing out the scientific FACT that Audis are homosexual.

Asian chicks look good in Audis.

Posted by: Darth Nihilus69 at February 08, 2010 01:58 PM (GfYt/)

255 225 Both people who sued McDonalds for coffee burns were driving Audis. Probably meaningless statistic, but yeah, douches.

Are you trying to say that Audi needs to make better cupholders?

Posted by: Anachronda at February 08, 2010 01:59 PM (3K4hn)

256 > 42 ... Compact fluorescent light bulbs are not suitable for outdoor usage. Maybe parts of Hawaii has a climate within their temperature range, but anywhere else, fuggetaboutit... Posted by: Amish Jack I have 3 outdoor flourescent bug lights that will dispute your statement. Yes, I'm in SoCal but it got REAL COLD a few weeks ago - below FIFTY for while!! (I don't even know if I'm being sarcastic...)

Posted by: Comrade Arthur at February 08, 2010 01:59 PM (kWh60)

257

Are you trying to say that Audi needs to make better cupholders

Actually, the cupholders in them do suck.

The Germans find our fixation with cup holders a bit odd.

Posted by: Scott J. at February 08, 2010 02:03 PM (NY7mQ)

258 My 740i didn't have cupholders and was the best car I ever owned, except the repair bills.

My Saturn (the old one) didn't have cupholders either.

I personally don't think you need them, but if you're competing with Honda Odysseys for driving pleasure, you aren't in a BMW, you're in an Audi.  And if you're in a snore box, might as well have some coffee.

Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 02:05 PM (dUOK+)

259 257 Furthermore non-white characters in a commercial are seldom permitted to do anything "mistaken" or appear even vaguely unsavory That's why I was surprised that the folks in the Doritos ad with the kid who slapped his mother's boyfriend were black. It's not 100%, of course. But just do a mental survey for an evening of TV watching, and try to find more than one commercial where the doofus or the bad guy isn't a white male. Evil competing insurance agents on Progressive, white male nerds. Bad guy broker in limo on discount brokerage commercial, white guy. Clueless ice cream scooper on cell phone commercial, white kid. Minor exceptions abound, naturally. Bad guy tightwad manager on Priceline commercial, aging bald Asian male with glasses. Not black or hispanic, but Asian. Asians are almost like whitey in the advertising world, but not quite.

Posted by: George Orwell at February 08, 2010 02:07 PM (AZGON)

260 Do you have an Inny or an Audi?

Posted by: Jimi at February 08, 2010 02:09 PM (fqxV7)

261 remember the sexy foreign biotch driving the cadillac making fun of all the voting soccer moms for wanting their cupholders?   Well, all those soccer moms wouldn't let the soccer dads buy a cadillac.  Always was meaning to check how those cadillac sales went since a bunch of female engineers designed a mini van with tons of cupholders and it was a huge success.  Moral of the story for car makers and politicians....soccer moms matter.

Posted by: curious at February 08, 2010 02:11 PM (p302b)

262 Audi gave Lance Armstrong an A8, and one of his balls fells off and he wound up with that fucker Sheryl Crow.

Sad, but true.

Now, he rides bicycles.  And let's face it: that's not very manly.


Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 02:13 PM (dUOK+)

263

@265

I couldn't agree more. I have been watching the social engineering that has been going on for years in commercials and T.V. shows. I think it has been one of the most distructive forces in our culture. The T.V. shows are very destructive!

Trying to get a Leftist scumbag to understand how it can be destructive is like trying to explain proper bathroom edicate to Chimpazee!

Posted by: Jimi at February 08, 2010 02:13 PM (fqxV7)

264 I want a Beamer. Probably an M6.

Posted by: Holger at February 08, 2010 02:15 PM (8NGHm)

265 " try to find more than one commercial where the doofus or the bad guy isn't a white male."

Stepping out of the bash-audi thing for a second, and this is the dumbest aspect of our culture these days.

you can't have a dope who isn't a white dude.  And it's extremely annoying.  No surprise that Audi does it too, but I am sure all the cool automakers do the same thing in their adverts.

If someone says a pack of white dudes looks like a lynch mob, or is stupid, or redneck, or whatever, and most people don't have a problem with the racism. 

Hell, I hear all the time how the TEA movement is somehow flawed because white people attend more than others.  You won't ever hear that about a different race.

Lame.  Audi isn't any worse than the others in this particular case. 

Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 02:16 PM (dUOK+)

266

265, 269: How many TV shows and commercials portray dads in a positive light?

Not many.

Posted by: Scott J. at February 08, 2010 02:16 PM (NY7mQ)

267 Now Ford had a diesel escort that got 50MPG in the 80s. How come American car makers aren't making diesel sedans here? I've got an 80 mile roundtrip commute, and given the traffic on 684 I'm not the only one. There's a market only the euro-weenies seem to be touching.

Posted by: Iblis

they have the fiesta that gets 60mpg in europe right now....problem is all consumer diesel engines are made in england. oh how i hate 684....i turned down a $18k raise not to drive on that road.

and for all of you hating on audi i have worked on quite a few s4 's that we turned into fire breathing, planet killing, gas guzzeling monsters.

i think the audi a4 sedan was voting the top gay car like 8 years in a row. 

i'm still looking for a 6 speed twin turbo s4 avant....wagons are hetro. trust me.

Posted by: evil libertarian at February 08, 2010 02:17 PM (x9lGm)

268 "I want a Beamer. Probably an M6.
Posted by: Holger"

Expensive!

M3 is more than enough for me.  Not really a bargain either, to be honest.  For some reason, the 6 series reminds me of chrysler sebrings.  Anything designed by Bangle annoys me, and the 6 series still has that Bangle influence.

Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 02:18 PM (dUOK+)

269

270, If I'm ever able to afford a sports car again I think I'll look for a bargain in an E36 (1995-1999) M3.

Those are fun.

Posted by: Scott J. at February 08, 2010 02:18 PM (NY7mQ)

270 Wagons are the ideal car.  I admit this.

Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 02:19 PM (dUOK+)

271

The commercial was very clear, except to morons/deniers.  Get it together people, and stop walking lockstep with those that don't know their @$$ from, etc.!  We LIVE on this planet, as do our children and grandchildren, eventually.  It is WORTH taking care of, so grow the f up and do what you can!

/Tired of idiots yabbering about something so obvious.

Posted by: Alex at February 08, 2010 02:19 PM (tC+R/)

272

@272

Hell, name one!....Cause I sure as hell can't! Everytime I try to explain that there is a agenda out there that is focused on "De-balling" or "Feminizing" the Male Population, I get written off as a Nut-Job.

The problem is, I worked in a school system, and you didn't have to be rocket scientist to figure the purpose of some of the policy. If this country would have serious debate about that topic, I'd bet the general population would be amazed at what the public school systems have done to our childern.

Posted by: Jimi at February 08, 2010 02:21 PM (fqxV7)

273 265, 269: How many TV shows and commercials portray dads in a positive light? Not many. Hell, even with something as anodyne as yogurt it has to be the guy who can't find his ass with a map and both hands. There's a a couple of Yoplait commercials where the Stupid Husband can't figure out that Genius Wife isn't talking about actual key lime pie but yogurt flavored like pie. Even though the package is right in front of his nose. The alternate spot in the campaign is where the Stupid Husband is bragging on the telephone about eating all this fattening key lime pie and yet he loses weight... and the Genius Wife busts him. Men stupid, white men real stupid. Lather rinse repeat.

Posted by: George Orwell at February 08, 2010 02:22 PM (AZGON)

274

@277

Go whine to China-Brainiac!

Posted by: Jimi at February 08, 2010 02:23 PM (fqxV7)

275 It's not lampooning. It's wishful thinking.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at February 08, 2010 02:23 PM (5I0Yr)

276 Major cluelessness, slightly upthread...

Posted by: George Orwell at February 08, 2010 02:24 PM (AZGON)

277
Thing that bugs me is the Green Police are acting like Nazis and they also like the Audi.  "Hey,  look!  Nazis like it!" is not a good message.

Posted by: Dang at February 08, 2010 02:25 PM (UA4gE)

278

279, I've seen those yogurt commercials you speak of.

How about Lean Pockets?

Posted by: Scott J. at February 08, 2010 02:26 PM (NY7mQ)

279 Audi direct experiences - 100LS in the late 70's. Nice riding car - stable even at 85mph with a blown front tire; not so great into the back of a Caddy Coupe de Ville (it was done) A6, diesel, rental in Germany. Smooth as glass at 160kph, with power reserve; excellent handling off the Autobahn on twisty turny backwoods German forest roads. Sipped the petrol lightly. VW - Passat for a few years - bought used, mainly for the highway feel (a lot closer to a Porsche than an Isuzu, duh). Goofy chinzy things started going bad, eventually soured me on the vehicle. Porsche. Keep your air cooled, unbalanced crap. Three 944s over the years, but GAWD what maintenance muny pitzes. Absolute KICK IN THE ASS to drive. Annoying things happen when they pop timing belts, even when serviced per spec. Fav? 1968 Camaro, following frame off resto, addition of .030 over 11:1 350, posi 3.73 rear end turning big fat Mickey T's. Capable of nailing unsuspecting pedestrian in crosswalks a quarter mile away in about 12 seconds. Shittiest car I ever tried driving in the snow. Loved it.

Posted by: Wind Rider at February 08, 2010 02:28 PM (XhSwc)

280 oh, and the Camaro was a 'green car'. Hunter green. Custom mixed paint job. Mileage? About 10, or so. Took premium because of the compression ratio.

Posted by: Wind Rider at February 08, 2010 02:29 PM (XhSwc)

281 286, bet it idled like the cam lobes were square.

Posted by: Scott J. at February 08, 2010 02:30 PM (NY7mQ)

282

Car fans, if you want to see something entertaining Google "Focus ZX351".

Quite entertaining if you've never seen it.

Posted by: Scott J. at February 08, 2010 02:31 PM (NY7mQ)

283

That is California in the very close future.

Soon they'll be building a Berlin Wall type fence along the border to keep the remaining business owners and taxpayers in the state.

BTW, I like in the first scene when the guy gets his head pushed into the scanner, it beeps and WTF with the aardvark?

Posted by: Max Entropy at February 08, 2010 02:32 PM (uuZjB)

284 If I were a car company and it took nearly 300 comments on a blog to try to figure out what my commercial meant, I'd get a new ad agency.

Posted by: Sloppy at February 08, 2010 02:41 PM (1kwr2)

285 Soon they'll be building a Berlin Wall type fence along the border to keep the remaining business owners and taxpayers in the state. Clownifornia will be the first state to issue "exit visas."

Posted by: George Orwell at February 08, 2010 02:43 PM (AZGON)

286 Aren't commercials supposed to make you want to buy a product? That ad just pisses me off.

Posted by: maddogg at February 08, 2010 02:43 PM (lQT2m)

287 Needs more Demon Sheep.

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 08, 2010 02:45 PM (xxgag)

288

265, 269: How many TV shows and commercials portray dads in a positive light?

Not many.

Posted by: Scott J. at February 08, 2010 06:16 PM (NY7mQ)

But they have got the Lifetime Channel, an entire channel devoted to the proposition that men are scum.

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 08, 2010 02:48 PM (xxgag)

289 289: it's a CFC-sniffing aardvark... duh!

Posted by: Blinky2010 at February 08, 2010 02:50 PM (snlsw)

Posted by: maddogg at February 08, 2010 02:56 PM (lQT2m)

291 277   We LIVE on this planet, as do our children and grandchildren, eventually.  It is WORTH taking care of, so grow the f up and do what you can!

Posted by: Alex

i'll be thinking of you during my commute in the morning getting 11 glorious miles per gallon. maybe i'll fire up the pre emissions 1972 planet destroyer and let it idle for an hour or two when i get home. *kisses*

 

Posted by: evil libertarian at February 08, 2010 02:59 PM (x9lGm)

292 Save the planet! Strangle a libtard!

Posted by: maddogg at February 08, 2010 03:01 PM (lQT2m)

293 I thought the commercial was a funny send-up of envirowackos. Nice car, but I'd prefer the R8 which is damn sexy.

Posted by: rori at February 08, 2010 03:02 PM (PgpTP)

294 Audi wants to be the new Prius, the Holy Grail for self-indulgent smug lefties.  Of course the ad makes me want to buy one - think of all the sweet sweet stupid lefty tail, so confused now that the Prius is under recall for killing hippies.  Prius, the unofficial mascot car of Ace of Spades.

Posted by: dustydog at February 08, 2010 03:05 PM (7Dddx)

295

The commercial was very clear, except to morons/deniers.  Get it together people, and stop walking lockstep with those that don't know their @$$ from, etc.!  We LIVE on this planet, as do our children and grandchildren, eventually.  It is WORTH taking care of, so grow the f up and do what you can!

/Tired of idiots yabbering about something so obvious.

Posted by: Alex at February 08, 2010 06:19 PM (tC+R/)

 

Dear Alex,

Go fuck yourself.

Sincerely,

Di

Posted by: di butler, qualified for Aussie porn at February 08, 2010 03:11 PM (S3xX1)

296 I always thought the Prius problems were karmic justice for all the libtards who owned them and voted for Obama.
I mean did they slap the Obama stickers on at the factory or what?

Posted by: Iblis at February 08, 2010 03:12 PM (9221z)

297 You know what's the worst part about owning an Audi???  Telling your parents your ghey!!!

Posted by: If I can't eat it or fuck it, I piss on it... at February 08, 2010 03:47 PM (lxg2b)

298 55 No GM. No Chrysler. Posted by: Guy Fawkes at February 08, 2010 04:20 PM (2sJK0) I take it a step further and say, "No UAW." Sorry, Ford; you were just beginning to manufacture decent looking cars, too.

Posted by: Herr Blücher at February 08, 2010 03:49 PM (2ioNS)

299 The thing with the aardvark, wasn't there a study a while back showing that dogs were worse for the environment than SUVs?

Posted by: DSkinner at February 08, 2010 03:58 PM (yvN7G)

300 The commercial was very clear, except to morons/deniers.

Yes Alex, it was. ...and yet, there was so much implied off-camera. Swarms of uniformed government police watching your every move;  the world which lefties really, really want... What you didn't get to see is that when we find a styrofoam cup in you car at our Green Roadblocks - we will machine-gun you in front of your children. As we load them onto the buses taking them to Diversity Camps we will play lovely classical music. At the camps they will work hard laboring in the hopium mines, and then they will mercifully starve to death on arugula and rotten turnips.

Aren't eco-fascist satire commercials awesome? Heil Gaia!

Posted by: Unterfuhrer Steiner, GPF at February 08, 2010 04:02 PM (ci50A)

301 "But... so... why is it lampooning green fever?"

They needed for it to be funny.  I bet they knocked themselves out, at first, trying to do so by taking the opposite approach, and only gave up after becoming convinced that the green fever side of this debate IS the only truly ridiculous position.  Then they tried to do a little ideological jiu-jitsu at the end.
   And really?  If we're doing this much talking about it in the blogs, (304 comments already, even as I open this comment box), then they've accomplished its main purpose, which is getting attention.

Posted by: Stoop Davy Dave at February 08, 2010 04:04 PM (YnLCQ)

302 Ha!
Imagine "Alex" trying to be funny?
That's what they were up against, so they pretty much HAD to lampoon themselves!

Posted by: Stoop Davy Dave at February 08, 2010 04:08 PM (YnLCQ)

303 I'm gonna test drive an Audi  and piss under the seat

Posted by: Beto at February 08, 2010 04:19 PM (+CLh/)

304 They can have my '84 F250 when I run out of parts at pick-n-pull. I own it clear, (300,000 miles) parts are cheap, it'll go right over the top of any enviro-weenie golf cart and since I have no job to go to it costs me nothing to get back and forth to work in.

Posted by: mydemonsdriveon at February 08, 2010 04:27 PM (oLbJG)

305 I think it is all a distraction from what is really important; that hayseed, bible-thumping idiot Palin and her hand notes!!!11

Posted by: Wikus van de Merwe at February 08, 2010 04:35 PM (9wFH4)

306 It's a vision of the future, clearly.

Posted by: A Conservative Teacher at February 08, 2010 04:40 PM (IZIUp)

307

Peculiar.

I'm just glad that Cheap Trick will make a few bucks off of it.

Posted by: jmflynny at February 08, 2010 04:42 PM (5mzvr)

308 I spent 20 minutes trying to see what, exactly, clean diesel is, and couldn't figure out if it is different from regular diesel. I assume it is, since, during that time, I also searched to find where the heck you could buy it, and there doesn't seem to be many places which carry it.

Kinda sucks if you can't get fuel for it. Make a nice liberal lawn ornament, eh?

Posted by: William Teach at February 08, 2010 04:44 PM (7yTel)

309 Was I the only one who wished the commercial kept going to show the real cops beat the everloving snot out of the eco-douche at the end?

Posted by: Xoxotl at February 08, 2010 04:51 PM (CbVPH)

310 314 The fuel is just regular diesel.The "clean" part is the engine.

Posted by: steevy at February 08, 2010 05:08 PM (DhB9z)

311

Robin Zander of Cheap Trick drives a Hummer 2.

The first time I met Zander back in the 80's backstage, I asked him what kind of car he drove.   He said I drive 5 cars.  My favorite is a Chevy Malibu.

The part of the commercial that annoys the hell out of me, is when I am reminded that I am not allowed to buy the FUCKING LIGHT BULB OF MY CHOICE.

Posted by: gus at February 08, 2010 05:18 PM (MaqIC)

312 F the Green Police. I only use incandescent light bulbs. I throw away dead batteries. I prefer plastic instead of paper. I drive a 10 MPG Government Motors Truck. I like bottled water. I don't recycle. I cut down trees when I want to. F the green police.

Posted by: ManBearPig at February 08, 2010 05:41 PM (2jp4I)

313

I always thought the Prius problems were karmic justice for all the libtards who owned them and voted for Obama.
I mean did they slap the Obama stickers on at the factory or what?

And that there's proof that Karma doesn't exist.

Posted by: ErikW at February 08, 2010 05:46 PM (tmTpz)

314 ONT is up, guys.

Posted by: CoolCzech at February 08, 2010 05:52 PM (QECjC)

315
This is every leftard's wet dream: to dictate every aspect of our lives. But, like the Obama administration, the ad overplayed its hand to the point where rational viewers come down against its message.

Posted by: Brown Line at February 08, 2010 06:02 PM (BTocB)

316 314 The TDI engine traps anything it doesn't burn throught the first time and re-burns it. So it doesn't need any chemical additives for the engine like some BMWs and Benzes.

Posted by: Iblis at February 08, 2010 06:25 PM (UQCPr)

317
I take it a step further and say, "No UAW." Sorry, Ford; you were just beginning to manufacture decent looking cars, too. Posted by: Herr Blücher

Perfect is the enemy of the good.  My F-150s have a little UAW sticker and it does annoy me, but it's a damn good truck for the money.  If socialist unino slobs keep building a truck that doesn't fall apart, I will keep buying them.  Now, if some other company where to make a non union truck I found suitable and a similar value, I'd happily change brands.

Anyway, Ford makes everything GM and Chrysler does, better (except perhaps the suburban if you like it).  Mustang is better power:weight, everything last longer, and if you can just avoid bailout companies, at least companies will know to avoid that crap.

Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 06:29 PM (dUOK+)

318 Did anyone look at how all the perps are white men and the hero is a white man, while the "Green Police" are different races? I think there is something else afoot here! (not just a "green" message, per se)

Posted by: La Grande Gaffe at February 08, 2010 07:13 PM (lKZZe)

319 So it doesn't need any chemical additives for the engine like some BMWs and Benzes.

Posted by: Iblis

and by additives he means urine...really.

Posted by: evil libertarian at February 08, 2010 07:22 PM (x9lGm)

320 One thing I like about this ad. It assumes conservatives are intelligent enough to see the joke, and assumes the greenies aren't

My office full of conservatives thought they were serious. I've watched it three times after reading this thread, and I'm still not convinced they aren't. I guess I'm just a stupid hick who's too pissed off to appreciate parody anymore.

Posted by: The Black Republican at February 08, 2010 08:01 PM (63u7J)

321 The message of the Audi commercial is simple:  Escape the Stupidity.

Posted by: OCBill at February 08, 2010 08:14 PM (p28Ei)

322 One's a front wheel drive efficiency design, the other is meant to make you impressed with yourself.

That "front wheel drive efficiency design" still won't make it up my driveway in the winter.  My A4 does, every time.  Even with four to six inches of Glowbull Warming hiding the pavement.  I don't know if my next car will be an Audi, but I know for sure it will be AWD.

Related:  why are all rally cars all-wheel-drive, instead of "front wheel drive efficiency design?"

Posted by: Scott Crawford at February 08, 2010 09:02 PM (Exrhr)

323 Front Wheel drive is really good in the snow.  IF you can't drive it, that's not the car's fault.

Oh, and you don't appear to know shit about Rally, since there certainly are Front wheel rally cars.

But again with comparing the performance of a front wheel drive $20,000 family sedan to the performance of a $50,000 sports car.  It's pathetic.  If that's the comparison you have to make, your car sucks at what it's supposed to do.

and of course it does.

Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 09:15 PM (dUOK+)

324 Nice try.

Posted by: Scott Crawford at February 08, 2010 09:20 PM (Exrhr)

325 Front Wheel drive is really good in the snow.

Wrong.  Accelerating a front-wheel drive car uphill un-weights the drive wheels.

IF you can't drive it, that's not the car's fault.

Skip Barber would disagree with you.

Oh, and you don't appear to know shit about Rally, since there certainly are Front wheel rally cars.

At the back.

But again with comparing the performance of a front wheel drive $20,000 family sedan to the performance of a $50,000 sports car.  It's pathetic.  If that's the comparison you have to make, your car sucks at what it's supposed to do.

The performance isn't comparable, and you're making an assertion without evidence.

Good night, Gracie.

Posted by: Scott Crawford at February 08, 2010 09:24 PM (Exrhr)

326 I'm still laughing at the idea that someone can't get a front wheel drive car up their driveway.

Possibly their driveway is insane.  More likely, it's a douchebag driver who is compensating for their life with a car.  And as I said initially, that's a big part of what an Audi is for.  If you need an AWD (not that Honda doesn't make great AWD cars) just to handle your driveway, you either can't pick a decent home or you are a shitty driver.  FF config cars have great snow characteristics, with all the weight being on the drive axle.  Now, I wouldn't try to go insane driving a civic down an icy mountain, but if you think you can do that in an Audi, you are a douchebag.

Since the awesome J-WRC series is exclusively front wheel drive awesome rally cars, I have to assume the Audi driver, of course, doesn't understand cars or motorsport very well.

Should have mentioned that insane LMP Audi had for ages, but the idiot had to pretend front wheel drive cars are not suitable for rally.

  As I said, the Hondas the Audi is claimed to be better than are simply in a different category, and it's just stupid to make the comparison.

  It's more comfortable, much more likely to actually start when the weather is bad, and it costs so much less you can afford to get your driveway-of-death fixed.  But in the snow, or for legroom, or for not looking like a douche who didn't know Audi is a shitty automaker, the Honda or the Ford or the BMW is the better car.

Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 09:27 PM (dUOK+)

327 LOL, Scott.

you suck at logic, and you suck at driving, and skip barber isn't a rally driver.

what's funny is that I attended Skip Barber and drove a front wheel drive Mazda. 

You idiot.

Audis aren't really awful cars... I'm obviously joking because it sets off the idiots who roll their ego into their douchey cars.  I realize that an Audi is going to be faster than a Honda Odyssey or a Ridgeline.  It's just so funny to see someone argue that they need an Audi to make it out of their driveway, and think that's impressive.  It's embarassing.  you just THINK you need that.

I see drivers like you all the time when it's icy.  Your stupid ass car wasn't really ice-proof and you ran off the road.  I lumber along in my horrible handling F-150, which really would get its ass kicked in a rally.  Though so would an Audi.

If Rally is your fucking God of choosing a car, why in the hell are you selecting an Audi?  Seems like the Japanese still have your ass kicked for much less $$$.

Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 09:32 PM (dUOK+)

328 What's really funny isn't that the clown thought front wheel drive is a bad rally configuration.  Lots of people don't understand cars well, and might think that.  It's that he was quoting and attempting to rebut my argument that it's foolish to compare a very expensive performance oriented car with a design that is not performance related, but rather economics related.

He replied to such an argument by claiming his Audi is better performing than a much cheaper design.  Now, not only is he dead wrong on the idea that an A4 is better than *all front wheel drive cars* for his driveway, but he's making an obviously and almost precisely irrelevant comment.

Perhaps I fell for the troll a bit by noting that many excellent rally cars are front wheel drive.  A front wheel drive Citroen C4 is obviously a better rally car than any car Audi has ever produced (this is proven by J-WRC front wheel drive cars routinely beating the very fastest Audi rally times from the good old days when Audi was a great company). 

But that hardly matters.  What I was talking about was how, for most folks, it just doesn't matter.  They need a safe car in the snow, or a reliable car 150,000 miles in the future, or a car that isn't a waste of money.  Audi is a terrible choice for anyone like that.  That they look douchey is just a matter of opinion (but come on, those R8 headlights are pretty goddamn douchey).  That they are faster than cars costing a third or half as much is not important (or even assured in many cases... some front wheel cars are very fast and handle relatively well). 

Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 09:55 PM (dUOK+)

329 Oh, and before someone notes that there is such a thing as an AWD C4, yeah, I know that, but the front wheel drive car is still an excellent rally car, and far, far superior to any Audi.

Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 09:57 PM (dUOK+)

330 Now, I think the Mercedes Benz E-Class is a good example of a great car.  It just looks sharp without looking desperate.

The Audi R8 is perhaps the ugliest car I've ever seen, aside from GM garbage like the Aztec.

The R8 looks like a douche's paradise.  It's about half a second faster to 0-60 and probably turns marginally better, but it looks like it's trying so much harder to achieve something the E-Class does for far less money and in far better comfort and style.

Mine isn't really a class warfare argument.  If you're going to compare the Audi to a fucking Honda civic, you have admitted defeat.  Compare it to a comparable car like the E-Class.  Compare how they look, how they feel, how they perform.  Oh, and how they break all the time.

But noooooooo, you have to point out that the Audi is so much better than some econobox... and it's not even convincingly better?

Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 10:06 PM (dUOK+)

331 just bought a new Audi Q7 and love it.....

Posted by: christmasghost at February 08, 2010 10:39 PM (aUut1)

332 Doug @ 177: "I am starting to think the whole superbowl commercial thing is just really annoying.  Every year there is maybe one or at most a couple that were really worth sitting through, and to get there you need to sit through all the same peurile bullshitt that is rendered superbowl worthy by being louder and more frenetic. "

Yeah and the commercials are pretty bad, too. 
But what's up with that deal in between them, where all those bozos line up and crash into each other?  That shit is just stupid!

Posted by: Stoop Davy Dave at February 09, 2010 12:49 AM (YnLCQ)

333 Funny today, fact tomorrow.

Posted by: Tantor at February 09, 2010 04:18 AM (Ek/Oc)

334

I had 3 VW before and I have 2 VW now(GTI and Jetta). No major problems and a lot of fun.

About ad: Rush discuss it yesterday as sitire on green movement.

Posted by: redmonkey at February 09, 2010 04:42 AM (8K5j5)

335 Ad agencies are located in Bloomberg's New York City so the Green Police are probably not that far from their reality.

I take it as saying "At Audi we adapted to the real Nazis in the 1930s and 40s (and they were a bunch of vegetarian, anti-smoking, astrology believing environmentalist wackos, among their other faults).  Now that America is in the grips of a new bunch of smiley face environmentalist fascists, there is no reason that you cannot drive a hot car.  No matter what rules these assholes come up with, we'll comply with them and still make a car worth driving."

Posted by: Mark in Texas at February 09, 2010 05:15 AM (oEBcV)

336 The ad is Genius, pokes fun at the Green Hysteria, while marketing a car with a common sense approach to fuel economy and a great return on investment. No batteries here, no Solar Panels or wind Turbines, just good common sense engineering to consumer demand.

Great Work Audi!

Posted by: DKMY at February 09, 2010 05:36 AM (G3tVb)

337 agreed - great ad I think.  Hopefully it will be effective.

I think it has confused everyone who knows or cares much about this issue, because you're used to the trenchant fears and arguments motivating both sides and can't tell if you are supposed to be offended, laugh, or be irritated at their blithely ignorant profiteering.
But the ad-men were obviously targeting the vast majority who don't really care or know a whole lot about the issue and be more inclined simply to adapt to whatever changes enviro's or others think is necessary for some reason and want to have a practical means of getting around in whatever new regulations, policies, or green world "they" think of next. 
It's for the guy who says, "As long as I can get to work and out of traffic, who cares.  And if I can fly by prius snobs in my diesel audi, and not have to hear from them later about being dirty (since technically I'm 'cleaner'), all the better.

Posted by: mc gm at February 09, 2010 07:05 AM (SlfFN)

338

and by additives he means urine...really.

Posted by: evil libertarian at February 08, 2010 11:22 PM (x9lGm)


Urea, urine: who cares. Still stinks.

Posted by: Iblis at February 09, 2010 10:42 AM (9221z)

339

I must have missed the "mixed" part of the message.   I see this as a total facial to the greens and, as we know, they hate to be even gently mocked since they have no sense of humor. 
Prove me wrong by pointing me to positive reviews from the Left on the ad's humor.  I'm not counting the reviews approving of the idea of Green Police.

Posted by: Hucklebuck at February 09, 2010 12:01 PM (9QcNA)

340

Rove, you magnificent bastard, you!!!!

Posted by: vivi at February 09, 2010 12:43 PM (knNJg)

341  Mallamutt
"Now, if Audi would have shown a clip of Al Gore being arrested deboarding his private jet....I would buy 10 of the damn things.

followed by:
Or, the green police going into White House and arresting "The One" for setting his thermostate at 80. I would never, ever drive anything again other than an Audi.

The best zinger. So nice.

And I am quite in favor of "green" everywhere... except when it comes to my thermostat. Don't mess with my thermostat. Build everything differently, if necessary, get rid of most disposable products, apply new green technologies, that's all great.

Oh, and trash plastic bags, still haven't found a practical green solution, but would be willing to change, if it were practical.

Posted by: Ketchup at February 10, 2010 03:24 AM (30gJj)

342 LOL (cartoon):

http://townhall.com/cartoons/2010/02/10/2

Posted by: Ketchup at February 10, 2010 03:34 AM (30gJj)

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