February 08, 2010
— Ace Is this pro-green or anti-? Well, it seems pro-green, since it's selling a a "Green" car, and the Green Hero gets to skate past the authoritarian and effeminate Green Police at the end. So... I guess that's supposed to be a good thing, right?
But... so... why is it lampooning green fever?
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they are selling a sports car to those who hate Green PC BS.
they are selling piety to those who want to satisfy the Green PC BS.
And it's a good car. It's a diesel and it's clean, and this is a good technology. I hate the company, but I admire the clever ad. 42 mpg and fast car = hell yeah.
Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 12:00 PM (dUOK+)
C'mon. If you're going to link any ad, shouldn't it be the Betty White/Snickers bit? I can only hope I'm as much of a spitfire as she is at 88...
Posted by: laceyunderalls at February 08, 2010 12:01 PM (nd+1J)
If you do get an Audi, just add in the best warranty they offer to the price of the car when comparing to real cars.
Though I'm sure Audi is laughing at Toyota these days, Audi and VW really do make some shitty stuff that eat your money. You're better off in a Ford or a Honda or a Hyundai.
Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 12:02 PM (dUOK+)
Posted by: JAFKIAC at February 08, 2010 12:02 PM (G9Ine)
Posted by: beedubya at February 08, 2010 12:02 PM (AnTyA)
Be a shame to smash a few Green Police with my large bumper at 80 MPH, then back over them a few times.
Just sayin'...
Posted by: Hummer H2 at February 08, 2010 12:02 PM (rl/bG)
Posted by: Houdini's Cadaver at February 08, 2010 12:03 PM (nz654)
The commercial was a script around the Cheap Trick song parody.
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Posted by: BumperStickerist at February 08, 2010 12:03 PM (ruzrP)
Over at Malkins site she says Audi has not only signed on to the green initiative they have basically capitulated to it trying to rake in the cash. They have given loads of cash to eco special interest groups over in Europe hoping to get preferred status.
Posted by: Blazer at February 08, 2010 12:05 PM (t72+4)
I think they're playing (i.e. sucking up) to both green and anti-green sentiments.
Posted by: OregonMuse at February 08, 2010 12:05 PM (hoowK)
Posted by: laceyunderalls at February 08, 2010 12:05 PM (nd+1J)
The "Green Police" come to him in his bed.
The "Green Police" are inside of his head ...
so, they're not --- wait for it --- real.
The commercial is just some a collection of reified paranoia ... or something.
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Posted by: BumperStickerist at February 08, 2010 12:05 PM (ruzrP)
But you really resent the fuck our of the environmentalist nutjobs. They hate your diesel tech, they hate cars in general, and they probably hate engineering.
So you came up with a car that really is much better for the Earth than a Prius or a train, and you know you can market this car to them, but you resent those fuckers.
Perhaps an ad with those nutjob whackos ruining everyone's life but not finding anything wrong with your car is exactly what you want to say to teh world. Pass that through marketing a couple of times to dillute the message, and this ad is the result. Instead of hostility, they just make it a lark.
there's no doubt Audi wanted to make fun of green losers. The Orange Rind offense? come on.
But someone in the chain realized this car will also sell to those nuts, and decided to laugh and mock.
Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 12:06 PM (dUOK+)
Which sucked, not unlike this misguided ad campaign.
Posted by: Christopher Calandro at February 08, 2010 12:07 PM (JdbYk)
Posted by: joncelli at February 08, 2010 12:07 PM (RD7QR)
And my wifes VW has been running like a charm for 5 years. Zip in the trouble dept.
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at February 08, 2010 12:09 PM (2sJK0)
Posted by: Sweetsrender at February 08, 2010 12:09 PM (rVDlM)
Posted by: George Orwell at February 08, 2010 12:09 PM (6uiF7)
C'mon. If you're going to link any ad, shouldn't it be the Betty White/Snickers bit? I can only hope I'm as much of a spitfire as she is at 88...
Posted by: laceyunderalls at February 08, 2010 04:01 PM (nd+1J)
Don't forget Abe Vigoda took a hit at the end too. I think I read he's 89.
Posted by: Tami at February 08, 2010 12:09 PM (VuLos)
Now, if Audi would have shown a clip of Al Gore being arrested deboarding his private jet....I would buy 10 of the damn things.
I will not buy any private jet, much less ten, on which that man has flown.
Just think of the grease spots.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 08, 2010 12:10 PM (B+qrE)
Posted by: iowahawk at February 08, 2010 12:10 PM (veL4N)
That would have kicked totally fucking ass.
Even not AlGORE, but just some random diplomats on private jets and limos pretending to advocate for greenies.
Total missed opportunity!
Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 12:10 PM (dUOK+)
Posted by: beckster at February 08, 2010 12:11 PM (VKl4R)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at February 08, 2010 12:11 PM (0q2P7)
Be afraid; be VERY afraid
Posted by: SantaRosaStan at February 08, 2010 12:12 PM (JrRME)
but with scorching hot Scandi/German babes rolling around on the hood.
Posted by: BumperStickerist at February 08, 2010 12:12 PM (ruzrP)
Audi's are the best buy on the used market. $20k gets you a two year old $56k ride and the extended warranty's offered through delers are a bargain. You have to maintain them, though. That is the key.
(FWIW - The Fox was a re-brand POS.)
Posted by: garrett at February 08, 2010 12:12 PM (1+Izr)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at February 08, 2010 12:12 PM (0q2P7)
Audi of America's chief marketing officer, Scott Keogh, said in a statement that:
We have no doubt that viewers will walk away from the Super Bowl with that song playing in their heads. It is certain to make the environmental message behind the Green Police ad hard to forget.
So what was the message again?
Posted by: JAFKIAC at February 08, 2010 12:12 PM (G9Ine)
Posted by: curious at February 08, 2010 12:12 PM (p302b)
Or Cheap Trick, that would have been hilarious.
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at February 08, 2010 12:13 PM (2sJK0)
Posted by: Indy at February 08, 2010 12:13 PM (NzpaZ)
Have you ever met a VW Jetta driver who is male? They are douches. They all have ipods and go to Starbucks and Barnes and Noble and listen to gay music.
Sadly, a lot of relatively normal folks are somewhat in this metrosexual half man thing. And those people won't be driven off by this commercial.
The people who will say "this commercial totally pisses me off" would never buy an Audi anyway. Because Audis suck. Even Audis with badass Diesel tech suck. You might as well wear a beret and eat biscotti when you drive it.
Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 12:14 PM (dUOK+)
The 1995 VW Passat TDI was capable of 54MPG.
Posted by: WTFCI'
that's amazing, and they are getting cleaner, so in efficiency, they are probably going backwards.
I want a Ford TDI passenger car. Or a Honda.
Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 12:15 PM (dUOK+)
But, Explain to me what the census ad meant?
That the United States government pissed away 2.5 million dollars.
Posted by: Mallamutt at February 08, 2010 04:15 PM (V9SYy)
"Absolutely"
Posted by: Tami at February 08, 2010 12:16 PM (VuLos)
Posted by: John Galt at February 08, 2010 12:16 PM (F/4zf)
26 Buy any Government-approved Audi during our End-of-Model-Year Clearance Blowout, and get free documents proving you have absolutely no Jewish blood!
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..where does one draw that line 'hawk?
I'm a Jew. I lost relatives and familial lineage to the Holocaust.
Should I sell my 64' XL 500 because Ford was a sympathizer?
Where would I start?
Just wondering...
Posted by: garrett at February 08, 2010 12:17 PM (1+Izr)
Audi's are the best buy on the used market. $20k gets you a two year old $56k ride and the extended warranty's offered through delers are a bargain. You have to maintain them, though. That is the key.
(FWIW - The Fox was a re-brand POS.)
Posted by: garrett"That $20k car is inferior to a $10k used Honda in most respects, and most importantly, cost of ownership.
Used Audis cost hundreds per month to keep running. While they do lose their value a lot, that doesn't mean they were really worth the original sticker and you got a bargain. A 15 year old 7 series has lost 97% of its value because it's a piece of shit now.
Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 12:17 PM (dUOK+)
I have this strange urge to turn on all the lights in my apartment, bake 15 pizzas (needs a 500-degree oven), take two hot baths and then go idle my car for an hour.
It's the damndest thing.
Posted by: Joanna at February 08, 2010 12:18 PM (7+WuG)
Posted by: willow at February 08, 2010 12:19 PM (5Bf/7)
They can't lampoon the greenie fascists, but then side with them by having the hero conform to their wishes.
They can't say "OMG LOOKIT THE JACKBOOTED GREEN FASCISTS!!!1!!" and then in the same breath say "Buy this car because then you'll be cool with the jackbooted fascists."
It's a dreadful commercial, and every executive at Audi deserves a punch in the taint.
Posted by: Kensington at February 08, 2010 12:20 PM (BGpfF)
Would I buy a car because the US govt has sunk billions into the company? Absolutely not. No GM. No Chrysler.
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at February 08, 2010 12:20 PM (2sJK0)
The cop ticketed him for going 85 in a 45.
My friend had the service manager for the VW dealership write a letter testifying that the VW Golf Diesel wasn't capable of hitting 85mph on a level road, let alone going up a slight incline, which is where my friend was ticketed.
He beat the ticket.
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Posted by: BumperStickerist at February 08, 2010 12:20 PM (ruzrP)
According to a statement I heard from some muckety muck from Audi, this was no parody. They be lovin' the greenie shit.
Also, who the hell would drive an Audi?
Posted by: di butler, qualified for Aussie porn at February 08, 2010 12:20 PM (S3xX1)
I worked for the German company for several years and their sense of humor is dry to say the least.
I would bet money that the Audi execs who ok'd this ad knew full well it was a send up of the entire green movement. They just love the idea that one of the most "green" cars on earth runs on diesel fuel. DIESEL !!! That has to be one of the worst fuels image wise on the planet (never mind that they are now quiet, clean burning and still efficient) from a green prespective.
I also sure most Americans recoiled at that snapshot of the green future being pushed on us by the Democrat Congress and the enviros. Notice that they didn't even hit on Cap 'n Trade. They went after the very regulations that are now found at many liberal dominated urban centers around America.
Loved the ending with "green" cops pulling over the real cops ...
Posted by: Jeff at February 08, 2010 12:21 PM (1QKZf)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 08, 2010 12:22 PM (9Cooa)
Used Audis cost hundreds per month to keep running. While they do lose their value a lot, that doesn't mean they were really worth the original sticker and you got a bargain. A 15 year old 7 series has lost 97% of its value because it's a piece of shit now.
my empirical experience is quite the contrary.
and a 7 series is a BMW.
I don't fit in a Honda - I'm 6' 2" and 220lbs of twisted fuckin' steel!
(maybe not the twisted steel part...)
Posted by: garrett at February 08, 2010 12:22 PM (1+Izr)
Posted by: WTFCI at February 08, 2010 12:22 PM (+zo63)
I have this strange urge to turn on all the lights in my apartment, bake 15 pizzas (needs a 500-degree oven), take two hot baths and then go idle my car for an hour.
You forgot throw another tire in the fireplace and set some bear traps.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 08, 2010 12:24 PM (B+qrE)
Posted by: Jeff at February 08, 2010 12:24 PM (1QKZf)
Ditto. I also got the urge to fill up on cheese, sauerkraut, cornbeef, bratwurst and beans.
Posted by: Holger at February 08, 2010 12:24 PM (8NGHm)
Posted by: garrett at February 08, 2010 12:26 PM (1+Izr)
Posted by: barbelle at February 08, 2010 12:26 PM (qF8q3)
I'm 6'4" / 260-ish. One of the odder experiences I had car shopping lo' those many years ago was hopping into a Honda CRX, putting the seat all the way back and not being able to reach the pedals. Plenty of head room, too.
I went with a Buick Park Ave.
because I'd rather look at the road then actually feel it.
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Posted by: BumperStickerist at February 08, 2010 12:26 PM (ruzrP)
You forgot throw another tire in the fireplace and set some bear traps.
Dangit, I knew there was something ... Maybe I'll save that for Arbor Day.
Posted by: Joanna at February 08, 2010 12:27 PM (7+WuG)
Posted by: JDW at February 08, 2010 12:27 PM (uw+0A)
garrett: when Ford starts running ads along the lines of the pro-police-state ad Volks' Wagen has just run, then you'll know that Ford has embraced the evil. i.e., not now, thank Gott im Himmel. (I'd expect it sooner from GM.)
Your comment does bring up an interesting question. What's the next bit of edgy merchandising? I picture this: a cabal of hook-nosed bankers in some skyscraper office somewhere, scheming over their big profits; and then some all-American hero breaks down a wall - IT'S LOW INTEREST RATE MAN!
Who'll be the first to run that populist ad?
(And no; I will never buy a car from the assholes who sign off on that shit.)
Posted by: Zimriel at February 08, 2010 12:27 PM (9Sbz+)
I used to own a VW Jetta and none of that applies to me. So bite me.
Having said that, I probably won't buy another one.
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at February 08, 2010 12:27 PM (bzLxm)
Posted by: brak at February 08, 2010 12:27 PM (W5NBA)
They just want you to forget that this is the company that brought you the Turbo diesel R8, the entire Porsche line, and Bugatti Veyron.
Now if they only brought over some of their blue-motion diesels. The TDIs here now are a little cramped.
Now Ford had a diesel escort that got 50MPG in the 80s. How come American car makers aren't making diesel sedans here? I've got an 80 mile roundtrip commute, and given the traffic on 684 I'm not the only one. There's a market only the euro-weenies seem to be touching.
Posted by: Iblis at February 08, 2010 12:28 PM (9221z)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 08, 2010 12:30 PM (B+qrE)
68 I don't fit in a Honda - I'm 6' 2" and 220lbs
I have a buddy who is 6'2" and 240 and he drives one of those things...fuckin' deathtrap.
When I sit in it, though our shoulders are touching...
I also live in rural montana. The Allroad will handle almost anything I have thrown at it...and if there's over three feet ofsnow, I take the 3/4 Ton.
Posted by: garrett at February 08, 2010 12:30 PM (1+Izr)
Posted by: Alabama Fatbody at February 08, 2010 12:30 PM (N2OAe)
Posted by: MMW at February 08, 2010 12:30 PM (C3kMa)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 08, 2010 12:30 PM (1Jaio)
I bought (new) a 2001 S4 as my midlife crisis car. Best damned car I've ever had by a country mile. Still as solid 9.5 years later as the day I bought it; zero trouble. The build quality is vastly superior to any American car and (IMO), most other eurocars (including BMW & MB). Even now, I giggle like a school girl when the twin turbos spin up and I carve a turn out on country roads.
I love that car and will cry when it finally dies or circumstances dictate I get rid of it.
I also have a Honda Pilot for family stuff; Great car, but it's not an Audi, not even close; it's a tool that will be replaced when necessary...
Posted by: Jayne at February 08, 2010 12:31 PM (/ZaEZ)
Kill greenie!
Posted by: Joy to the whirled at February 08, 2010 12:31 PM (WVBjj)
They lefties don't get the parody, the righties see it as an all-too-real look at our possible future, and most people -- sigh -- just accept that this is where the world is headed. And that's why I thought it was an outstanding commercial. It satisfies everyone, in one way or the other. Hey, you don't have to worry it about it -- just buy an Audi and all is well! It's fast, it's green, it's cool.
Posted by: Diver at February 08, 2010 12:32 PM (BcYZo)
Posted by: Vivi at February 08, 2010 12:32 PM (Rld5k)
When I sit in it, though our shoulders are touching...
Not that there's anything wrong with that.
Posted by: Uncomfortable Jerry Seinfeld at February 08, 2010 12:32 PM (nd+1J)
given the traffic on 684 I'm not the only one. There's a market only the euro-weenies seem to be touching.
Either Stop at the Blazer for a Burger and Fries and let the traffic die down, or hop on rte 22 in Bedford and wind your way around the reservoir and hop on the Bronx River o Saw Mill pkwy...stop at Broadway Pizzeria in No. White Plains and get a slice!
Posted by: garrett at February 08, 2010 12:32 PM (1+Izr)
I have this strange urge to turn on all the lights in my apartment, bake 15 pizzas (needs a 500-degree oven), take two hot baths and then go idle my car for an hour.
It's the damndest thing.
Winner! That was pretty funny, but of course, this whole thread is funnier than the commercial.
Posted by: Adlib at February 08, 2010 12:33 PM (k/CNO)
BackwardsGirl noted the soft assault on the Greenies before I did, primarily because I was shitting myself with laughter.
Still, I can't figure out whose side they're on with that ad. But, hey, I'm from Alabama. I'm kinda slow on the uptake sometimes.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 08, 2010 12:33 PM (i3AsK)
Posted by: Iblis at February 08, 2010 12:33 PM (9221z)
Posted by: JDW at February 08, 2010 12:34 PM (uw+0A)
Posted by: Gaff at February 08, 2010 12:34 PM (pe9DT)
Posted by: AlGore at February 08, 2010 12:36 PM (8n1j5)
Posted by: April at February 08, 2010 12:36 PM (b0THY)
I believe Ford ran the Mike Rowe (Dirty Jobs guy) ads.
Posted by: Long Island at February 08, 2010 12:37 PM (TiURi)
I used to own a VW Jetta and none of that applies to me. So bite me.
Having said that, I probably won't buy another one.
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at February 08, 2010 04:27 PM (bzLxm)"
Well, fair enough. My first car belonged to my grandma and I am sure there are many exceptions to the rule.
but Jetta men are usually pretty metrosexual. and it's a stunningly bad car when the cost of ownership data is looked at. It's a car for a man who doesn't like good machines.
I admit, some metrosexuals aren't aware they are what they are. Perhaps some Jetta drivers think they are not what they are... and some just got a car that didn't suit them for whatever reason.
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Anecdotes are stupid, but my last three cars (my present on not counted as it's only got 8000 miles on it) had 750,000 miles combined. One Ford, one Honda, and one pre-idiot Saturn from the early 90s. Adding up all the repair costs beyond belts and fluids for all three cars is $400. I'm not a brand loyalist by any stretch, but I know several Jetta drivers and two Audi drivers and I've noticed that those cars are simply very expensive to keep on the road for the length of time you can keep a good Ford or Honda on the road.
"you have to take care of it, that's the key" is a statistical trick to deny the truth about how these cars routinely fail. An 8 year old Honda has a lower cost of ownership than a 2 year old VW or Audi, according to some statistic I read somewhere (so I know it's true!).
Now, I'm not saying don't buy one of their cars. I'm saying those who are enraged by this ad already were very unlikely to buy such a shitty product.
Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 12:37 PM (dUOK+)
I don't fit in a Honda - I'm 6' 2" and 220lbs of twisted fuckin' steel!
Posted by: garrett at February 08, 2010 04:22 PM (1+Izr)
Sooooo.....How you doin'? ;-)
Posted by: di butler, qualified for Aussie porn at February 08, 2010 12:38 PM (S3xX1)
I'm peeved at this ad because I love Audis. You know, the ones that go 140 mph and get 2 gallons to the mile? Those ones.
Posted by: alexthechick at February 08, 2010 12:39 PM (8WZWv)
Posted by: di butler, qualified for Aussie porn at February 08, 2010 12:40 PM (S3xX1)
None of that story has anything to do with the commercial. I'm just sharing.
Posted by: Ella at February 08, 2010 12:40 PM (WPjES)
This is from a statement by Audi before the commercial came out.:
Audi of America's chief marketing officer, Scott Keogh, said in a statement that:
We have no doubt that viewers will walk away from the Super Bowl with that song playing in their heads. It is certain to make the environmental message behind the Green Police ad hard to forget.
So what was the message again?
Buy an Audi diesel to prevent an environmental fascist takeover?
To tell you the truth I was fully expecting the ad to be from "Big Oil", until they showed the Audi.
Posted by: Ken at February 08, 2010 12:41 PM (Bs34i)
I used to own a VW Jetta and none of that applies to me. So bite me
Your just latent...it's just a matter of time
Posted by: beedubya at February 08, 2010 12:41 PM (AnTyA)
Posted by: Ken at February 08, 2010 12:42 PM (Bs34i)
I know, I know...universal paradox of hating Gubment Motors and loving American Muscle...
Posted by: Joy to the whirled at February 08, 2010 12:43 PM (WVBjj)
Not that the alternative to an Audi is a Honda... they are drastically different markets. While the Honda is usually faster, better built, and cheaper, and yeah, has better leg room, fit, and finish, they just aren't really competitors.
One's a front wheel drive efficiency design, the other is meant to make you impressed with yourself.
Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 12:43 PM (dUOK+)
Will the Green Police be able to run faster than a speeding bullet?
Posted by: inquiring minds want to know at February 08, 2010 12:44 PM (Vu6sl)
I don't even really like Hondas (they are so ugly these days), but calling them a death trap with no legroom while swooning over an A4 is pretty hilarious.
Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 12:44 PM (dUOK+)
Posted by: biff biffington at February 08, 2010 12:44 PM (JZhkJ)
Posted by: Sam at February 08, 2010 12:45 PM (Cxsey)
I just wish GM had been sold to various investors instead of bought by the government. I think we'd be seeing cars we could be proud of and willing to buy.
Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 12:46 PM (dUOK+)
Posted by: curious at February 08, 2010 12:48 PM (p302b)
Posted by: di butler, qualified for Aussie porn at February 08, 2010 12:49 PM (S3xX1)
None of that story has anything to do with the commercial. I'm just sharing.
Posted by: Ella"
A 7 year Jetta with no problems is a total anomaly. But I'm sure you aren't the only one with a good anecdote. Just do some research before you extrapolate that onto the brand... VWs are not where to go for cheap and rare repairs.
Now, I have always had good luck with F-150s. My fleet has 4 of them. I never get any frills on them. A/C and AM/FM. Power nothing. A hitch and a bedliner and I'm good to go. They are union built, after all, but Ford makes good shit these days.
Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 12:50 PM (dUOK+)
Other parts, like the garbage police could be part of the new green economy.
Posted by: rockhead at February 08, 2010 12:50 PM (RykTt)
Look how funny this mutt his, he said "teabagging" a couple of dozen times in his article ha ha ha those stupid teabaggers ha ha.
Posted by: Dang Straights at February 08, 2010 12:51 PM (fx8sm)
Posted by: curious"
Dude, the suburban has enough legroom. You don't need more.
People who need suburbans have a hard time finding something quite right that competes. Almost every other car is superior in many ways, but saying you found a car with better mileage and handling than a suburban is not saying much.
Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 12:51 PM (dUOK+)
an s4, and a CRX is a fuckin' deathtrap when compared to the allroad that I drive.
you obviously have a hard-on for audi and the people who drive them. no big deal. My ex owned two hondas, several friends own hondas, I don't fucking fit in them. They are cheap pieces of shit.
I can afford to maintain and own any car I want.
I want an Audi allroad for the convenience of cargo space, comfort, ability to drive on an un-improved road in nearly any type of weather. Previously, I have owned suv's, but honestly, even they are too small inside.
When I need to tow something - I have a 3/4 ton Chevy. Piece of crap, but runs like a toip.
When I want to just drive, I have a 64 Galaxie XL 500 Rag-Top with a 390 4Spd.
When I want to pack my Mtn. Bikes, Tent, dogs, and hit the road for a month, I use my fucking audi.
What is the problem with that?
Want to save money? Move to rural Wyoming. It will save a lot more that driving a crapbox.
Posted by: garrett at February 08, 2010 12:51 PM (1+Izr)
Posted by: Vivi at February 08, 2010 12:51 PM (PCf6X)
Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 12:52 PM (dUOK+)
It probably should be Bush's fault, when all is said and done but now, Palin owns it.
Just sayin'
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at February 08, 2010 12:52 PM (RkRxq)
Posted by: George Orwell (the real moron one, accept no substitute) at February 08, 2010 12:52 PM (AZGON)
Go to audigreenpolice dot com
Posted by: mama winger at February 08, 2010 12:53 PM (Ue9UN)
Posted by: PR at February 08, 2010 12:53 PM (k7SeR)
In the neighborhoods where the upper middle class reside there is a suburban in every driveway. It is a status symbol. "look I can buy a suburban, or shall I say, Lease a Suburban, can you?"..... I guess that is why I hate the car so much.
Posted by: curious at February 08, 2010 12:54 PM (p302b)
I love my '91 Chevy S-10. She's lovely (and yes, my vehicles are female) and in great shape with 228K on the odometer. She has some minor rust, but then again, so do I. A new fuel pump and she'll be back on the road again. Paid for, easy to work on, cheap parts, what's not to love.
I hope that GM can get back on its' feet soon and tell The Vapid One© to ESAD.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 08, 2010 12:54 PM (i3AsK)
You don't have an actual argument. It's pretty obvious. I like lots of different makes, and as I said, I don't like Hondas either.
But if you have to keep bashing Honda to defend your terrible Audi brand, you're pathetic. Hondas cost like a third of an Audi whenever I compare them, and they have more legroom. It's something you can measure, and the North American Accord is simply better there. You probably already knew that.
You keep on and on and on about your great Audis, but you apparently know they suck or you wouldn't resort to completely bizarre arguments.
If you want to spend that kind of money on a car, get a good one. Audis are for people who just don't understand cars.
Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 12:54 PM (dUOK+)
Posted by: USA at February 08, 2010 12:55 PM (YZISw)
Posted by: curious at February 08, 2010 04:54 PM (p302b)"
LOL, I thought you were kidding.
The suburban is a terrible car by most measures, and yet, for people who get used to them, it's REALLY hard to find something that compares. It's just a niche. I agree that they are not a compelling vehicle. I'm definitely not a Chevy fan. Unless you're competing with an Audi or something really shitty like that, Chevies usually aren't a good choice.
Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 12:56 PM (dUOK+)
As far as VW/Audi are concerned, I believe they were bought up by Porsche, and that has led to an improvement in quality. In addition, the diesel versions of the Vws have been more reliable than the gassers for quite some time now. Besides, these cars are also a lot more fun, and reliable, with a stick shift. The main failing of the VWs has been electrical parts, and with any luck that's been improving also. The other big problem has been the stealerships who never really knew how to fix them.
I had this 1986 diesel Golf for many years. Great car, got 50 mpg rowing the gears through the streets of DC. It had enormous hatch space. What was really fun was getting past those obnoxious greenie cyclists who would never use the bike trails that we spend all those tax dollars building for them. Then I would give them a lungful of diesel exhaust. Ever since they took most of the diesel fuel it hasn't been as much fun to do that. And yeah, that Golf did get a bit expensive to maintain after awhile.
Hybrids are for wimps and sissies. REAL men drive diesels!
Posted by: Ron at February 08, 2010 12:57 PM (GH96s)
Posted by: curious at February 08, 2010 12:57 PM (p302b)
I can only imagine how many folks out there muttered "if only they did that for real" (or something similar) when they saw that ad.
Hell, there are mayors and citiy council members in many places that took notes.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 08, 2010 12:58 PM (B+qrE)
SECONDED
Posted by: Druid at February 08, 2010 12:58 PM (Gct7d)
Posted by: iowahawk at February 08, 2010 12:59 PM (veL4N)
Posted by: curious at February 08, 2010 01:00 PM (p302b)
Oh, and the Accord is faster if that actually matters. If you want a fast car, you shouldn't really be buying either of these cars. They really don't compare. The Honda is a much better value, but no one is surprised by that.
What's so funny is that the Audi nutjob bashed Hondas for one of the few objective measures that the cars can be neatly compared on, and the Audi still is the loser POS.
but lordy almighty are Hondas ugly these days. I guess the $30,000 you save will make that feel OK, these days, but Honda hasn't made a pretty car for at least 3 years.
Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 01:00 PM (dUOK+)
But again anyone eyeballing an F-250 with an off-road and towing package, probably was not even swayed in the slightest to buy this Audi ad. Greenies, metro's, and those sane people stuck in deep blue encampments of insanity, whom need to maintain that completely non-threatening image, may have seen something they liked.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at February 08, 2010 01:00 PM (0q2P7)
What is Bizarrre about the argument? I have owned an Accord (the Ex-Wife's), they are pieces of crap. A new one is not worth the cost of a used Audi in my opinion.
Sure they are cheap , but so is a fat and ugly hooker.
My experience is contrary to your 'research'. Want to banty about that argumentation?
One thing you can't take into account by reading consumer reports is that the leg room in the Hondas comes at the cost of the passengers in the rear set or corgo space.
You are simply trolling and I should have noticed by now...
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Posted by: garrett at February 08, 2010 01:00 PM (1+Izr)
Most ads are obnoxious, products of stupidly educated advertisers and oriented to insult everyone. No ad can bully me into buying something.
Posted by: maverick muse at February 08, 2010 01:00 PM (+CLh/)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at February 08, 2010 01:01 PM (0q2P7)
One advantage Audi has over Honda is driving experience.
The Honda is akin to some watered down American brand like Bud Light while Audi is a full-flavored import.
Of course, this only counts if you spring for all wheel drive. Otherwise you get the same bland experience you do from any other front-driver.
Posted by: Scott J. at February 08, 2010 01:01 PM (NY7mQ)
142 I make my own cars. Cuts out the middle man.
I know, the jealousy abounds...one of the many reasons I am a fan!
Posted by: garrett at February 08, 2010 01:01 PM (1+Izr)
Posted by: robtr at February 08, 2010 01:02 PM (fwSHf)
for some reason, she hated it. I think most suburban owners like the long slick feel of the suburban. The Suburban is really just a more stylish van these days. It's got all kinds of room and I think it's very comfortable for a roadtrip. But I'd buy the Seqouia too (I can't spell this one).
I just wouldn't want that kind of car, though. A nice wagon (not an Audi, if you hadn't noticed) would be better for me. A 5 series wagon, perhaps. BMW is not superstar of reliability, for for performance wagons are much better than other european competitors.
Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 01:03 PM (dUOK+)
When is the Hour of Power this year? It's my favoritest made-up holiday.
Posted by: HeatherRaadish at February 08, 2010 01:03 PM (mR7mk)
Posted by: curious at February 08, 2010 01:04 PM (p302b)
Posted by: sexypig at February 08, 2010 01:05 PM (0t7L8)
Given the possibility of a real economic meltdown, it's interesting to note how many of the auto manufacturers are sharing technology and design features in common, foreign and domestic.
Posted by: maverick muse at February 08, 2010 01:05 PM (+CLh/)
One advantage Audi has over Honda is driving experience.
The Honda is akin to some watered down American brand like Bud Light while Audi is a full-flavored import.
Of course, this only counts if you spring for all wheel drive. Otherwise you get the same bland experience you do from any other front-driver.
Posted by: Scott J. at February 08, 2010 05:01 PM (NY7mQ)"
this actually goes right to what I was saying way earlier. People buy Audis because they are kinda stupid about cars and want to make a statement. You're comparing your car to one that cost a third and is faster and is better built. To make some kind of statement about imported whatever. No sweat. I'd rather have a BMW or something if I needed to get my Eurotrash on. But if you're happy spending $40,000 on a car that will break, it's all about Audi.
I agree that Honda isn't really an import. It's almost a soul-less brand at this point. Then, it's not about making a statement. the only people who think Hondas make a statement are idiot ricers.
Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 01:06 PM (dUOK+)
Posted by: profligatewaste at February 08, 2010 01:06 PM (b3rrc)
Audi is going to be punished for that ad on both sides of the isle. It was a big mistake for them to attempt to make a political statement at this point of the debate.
I think everybody has misread that ad.
I ask myself, being a person who is concerned about gas mileage and polution, "does that add make me want to buy an Audi?" No it doesn't, it actually pisses me off and I will never by an Audi because of that ad, where as, I may have before hand if the situation was right.
I ask my friends who are crazy Lefties, "Does that ad make you want to buy an Audi?" typical response has been "No!" That add pisses them off too, because they think they are being made fun of, and they are viewing the ad as disrespectful to the Environmental Debate.
So it will interersting to see Audi numbers a year from now.
Posted by: Jimi at February 08, 2010 01:07 PM (fqxV7)
Posted by: willow at February 08, 2010 01:07 PM (5Bf/7)
Posted by: USA at February 08, 2010 01:07 PM (YZISw)
Posted by: Christopher Calandro at February 08, 2010 01:08 PM (JdbYk)
willow, you bought the suburban for the right reasons. You didn't buy it to rub in your friends faces, as a status symbol. But I still hate it, always have and I've ridden in the back of a lot of suburbans.
Posted by: curious at February 08, 2010 01:09 PM (p302b)
The, so would an S2000 or a Vette or something. If you bought an Audi for performance... you might as well have bought a Chevy for reliability. It can be done, but it's not effective.
Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 01:09 PM (dUOK+)
This thread is in serious need of some estrogen.
Here I'll go: Nordstrom's has the new Stuart Weitzman Slingback.
Anyone, anyone...?
*crickets*
Posted by: laceyunderalls at February 08, 2010 01:09 PM (nd+1J)
Posted by: profligatewaste at February 08, 2010 05:06 PM (b3rrc)
NO Anteaters were injured during the filming of this commercial.
Posted by: Audi Marketing Department at February 08, 2010 01:10 PM (Vu6sl)
Posted by: willow at February 08, 2010 01:10 PM (5Bf/7)
Posted by: Richard at February 08, 2010 01:10 PM (Y/4ua)
Posted by: Joy to the whirled at February 08, 2010 01:10 PM (WVBjj)
I'm not getting into your brand trolling Wiggles. I know you love your fart cannoned Honda.
But a front wheel drive econobox is fine if you view your car as an appliance like your microwave.
It's not a eurotrash thing either.
The CTS is a fine ride but I find it butt-ugly and now its government motors.
The Lexus IS is a wonderful machine too but a bit snug inside.
Posted by: Scott J. at February 08, 2010 01:11 PM (NY7mQ)
Posted by: George Orwell at February 08, 2010 01:11 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: doug at February 08, 2010 01:11 PM (uIGjr)
BMW's straight 6 was considered the best engine in the world for every year their build quality was abysmal.
And Honda probably still wins. Their V-6 is a much less amazing engine, but it's more powerful and reliable. I'm very happy that Audi is making good Diesels, but I wish a real carmaker would make a good diesel.
Initial impression != quality in my book. How the car is doing after 200,000 miles is what makes it a great design.
Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 01:12 PM (dUOK+)
seriously, I'm not alone. Most of my friends, even if they have ten kids, won't buy a Suburban. And now, after what the unions did to them and that they are government owned, no thank you. Can't wait for them to go down the tubes actually. Then we can be done with this crap and move on.
Posted by: curious at February 08, 2010 01:12 PM (p302b)
Posted by: John at February 08, 2010 01:12 PM (6FYZ6)
So...when is Big Hollywood going to do a Green Cops TV spoof? It was done to stormtroopers as Troops. You call it...I dunno, maybe...Greeno 911?
Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at February 08, 2010 01:12 PM (1hM1d)
107 Ella, ignore the naysayers, I have nothing but love for my 9-year-old Jetta. I house it on the streets of New York City in the elements and I drive it daily under ridiculous stop and go conditions. The first and only repair I had with it came a few months ago (distrib. cap issue). Other than that, I've never done anything to it except oil changes and topping off fluids and replacing the battery (which only came quite recently). I just got my inspection done this past weekend - no repairs necessary. Then again, my particular vehicle was actually German-manufactured, not made in Mexico or Hungary.
As for the Hondas, while reliable, they're rather easy to steal (as a few relatives experiences have borne out). I'm happy not having to fiddle with The Club everytime I park, and quite content knowing that should someone try to hijack my baby, they won't be able to turn the ignition.
Posted by: La Mauvaise New Yorkaise at February 08, 2010 01:13 PM (At4LC)
I'm not getting into your brand trolling Wiggles. I know you love your fart cannoned Honda.
But a front wheel drive econobox is fine if you view your car as an appliance like your microwave.
It's not a eurotrash thing either.
The CTS is a fine ride but I find it butt-ugly and now its government motors.
The Lexus IS is a wonderful machine too but a bit snug inside.
Posted by: Scott J"I already said I didn't like Hondas. Some idiot said he prefered Audis because they have more legroom than hondas that have more legroom and I was making fun of that. Honda is what it is. It's a soulless car that is very good at what it is. I think they are ugly, I already said so the first time I mentioned the maker.
and of COURSE it's a eurotrash thing. Good grief.
Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 01:14 PM (dUOK+)
i loved all my suburbans Damn you to Hell --GM!
fabulous vacations with all our kids, camping fishing (no i don't bait the hooks) creeks mountains, rivers, love it. and our children do too.
Posted by: willow at February 08, 2010 01:14 PM (5Bf/7)
Posted by: willow at February 08, 2010 01:14 PM (5Bf/7)
Posted by: George Orwell at February 08, 2010 01:17 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: Vivi at February 08, 2010 01:17 PM (PCf6X)
Posted by: doug at February 08, 2010 05:11 PM (uIGjr)
It was a different Superbowl this year; lousy commercials and a good game.
Posted by: WalrusRex at February 08, 2010 01:18 PM (xxgag)
Posted by: willow at February 08, 2010 01:18 PM (5Bf/7)
Also, Audi drivers are the highest ratio of homosexual drivers of any maker. that's an actual statistic according to "Out Magazine". I have nothing against man-purses or pink jeans. They just aren't for me. OK, I have something against them. They are stupid. Like Audis. And Jetta, btw. Gay gay gay gay gay.
Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 01:18 PM (dUOK+)
and of COURSE it's a eurotrash thing. Good grief.
Not really.
If Ford would bring to market a sedan in rear or all wheel drive with the engine and tansmission mounted longitudinally in the chassis as God intended I'd be first in line to have a look were I in the market for a new car.
I had an Integra GSR for awhile. Yes, it was fast. No, it rarely every had issues. But at its heart it was simply an econobox.
My SVT Cobra was much more fun even though I know its build quality didn't match the Accura (Honda).
Posted by: Scott J. at February 08, 2010 01:19 PM (NY7mQ)
Posted by: willow at February 08, 2010 01:19 PM (5Bf/7)
It actually makes me happy to hear that you love your Suburban. That's good, that's what you want to hear from a car owner. But I honestly can say, I hate what the unions did to GM and what GM allowed the unions to do. I hate the fact that they are owned by us, the American people. I guess I hate the money pit and abject failure that is GM. I feel bad for toyota. They were a good car company and now they are going to be torn apart. I'm waiting for them to start attacking Ford when they realize that most people are avoiding GM. I'm not alone. If they took polls they would find out that a lot of people are quietly vowing never ever, never ever to buy a GM car, on general principle. I mean, I've heard people say "they can give them away, I'm not taking one" and they mean it, they really mean it.
Posted by: curious at February 08, 2010 01:19 PM (p302b)
Posted by: extremely wet greentard at February 08, 2010 01:19 PM (Vu6sl)
The city of Seattle already has the garbage police. They randomly go through people's garbage. I think the first violation is a warning, but eventually they impose fines. I'm so glad I live in the suburbs across the lake from Seattle, but I always worry we'll be next (moonbattery always begins there).
Posted by: runningrn at February 08, 2010 01:20 PM (CfmlF)
I took drivers' ed in a Suburban. Parallel parking was emphatically not covered.
Posted by: HeatherRaadish at February 08, 2010 01:20 PM (mR7mk)
Here we go...Wiggles, you pin prick little bitch. Calling me an idiot for stating my experience - WTF???
I never once mentioned 'Leg-Room' per.
That was you. I said I don't fit in Hondas.
I have a 46" chest, I have a 37" waist, and I am not a fat shit. I do not fit inside of a Honda. I look like a fuckin' bear at the circus inside one.
You obviously like to pinch pennies and use others' reviews as fodder for an argument you have no chance of winning. because you argue from a false platform of knowledge.
Again, I offered my empirical experience and you offer numbers from a Consumer Reports review.
Go fuck yourself you cheap bastard.
Posted by: garrett at February 08, 2010 01:20 PM (1+Izr)
Posted by: curious at February 08, 2010 01:21 PM (p302b)
As for the Hondas, while reliable, they're rather easy to steal (as a few relatives experiences have borne out). I'm happy not having to fiddle with The Club everytime I park, and quite content knowing that should someone try to hijack my baby, they won't be able to turn the ignition.
I have an Accord. It's one of the most stolen cars in Seattle. I got Lojack on it. Still...
Posted by: runningrn at February 08, 2010 01:21 PM (CfmlF)
Posted by: Holger at February 08, 2010 01:22 PM (8NGHm)
I took drivers' ed in a Suburban. Parallel parking was emphatically not covered.
Heh!
Posted by: runningrn at February 08, 2010 01:22 PM (CfmlF)
lacey wearing 'Team Garrett' t-shirt
Give me one of those. I'm jealous of his rural WY location.
If I could ever sell the wife on the Winters and find a coding gig that pays close to what I earn now.
Posted by: Scott J. at February 08, 2010 01:22 PM (NY7mQ)
One is that they both drive Audi.
LOL.
Just kidding around, but comparing driving excitment to Honda kinda ignores that there are some other examples. Hell, in the Audi price range, you can compare to Vettes and shittier Porsches and several BMWs. All of which are better designs.
Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 01:22 PM (dUOK+)
I can only hope I'm as much of a spitfire as she is at 88...
Most folks that age are. Old ladies kick butt.
Posted by: katya at February 08, 2010 01:24 PM (meVmo)
Give me one of those. I'm jealous of his rural WY location.
If I could ever sell the wife on the Winters and find a coding gig that pays close to what I earn now.
I'm in Montuckey, but same difference. Only need about 1/2of what you make in most other places, though.
...and you get to eat Filet instead of just Steak!
Posted by: garrett at February 08, 2010 01:24 PM (1+Izr)
Why would Ford go backwards and bring a rear wheel drive car to the market?
Um, what?
You actually consider front wheel drive an upgrade?
Posted by: Scott J. at February 08, 2010 01:25 PM (NY7mQ)
Posted by: Holger at February 08, 2010 01:25 PM (8NGHm)
Posted by: curious at February 08, 2010 01:25 PM (p302b)
This thread is in serious need of some estrogen.
Here I'll go: Nordstrom's has the new Stuart Weitzman Slingback.
Anyone, anyone...?
*crickets*
I love slingbacks!
Posted by: runningrn at February 08, 2010 01:25 PM (CfmlF)
Thus, I've always appreciated the ergonomics of Honda's cockpit designs.
Posted by: Christopher Calandro at February 08, 2010 01:26 PM (JdbYk)
Posted by: runningrn at February 08, 2010 01:26 PM (CfmlF)
I've never driven anything but front wheel drive. Isn't rear wheel drive sort of old technology. I'm not a car person so don't yell at me. Be nice and explain.
Posted by: curious at February 08, 2010 01:26 PM (p302b)
Hell, in the Audi price range, you can compare to Vettes and shittier Porsches and several BMWs. All of which are better designs.
Wow, you are a consumer reports / car and driver dipshit.
Those are you choices for spending $50k on a driving experience?
...corvette, well designed?
Ha!
Posted by: garrett at February 08, 2010 01:26 PM (1+Izr)
katya, I think if you make it to 88, you can say whatever the hell you want and if someone doesn't like it, tough.
My opinion exactly. The older I get, the mouthier I get. Kind of complicated for a preacher's wife. I really gotta watch myself sometimes.
Posted by: katya at February 08, 2010 01:28 PM (meVmo)
Hell, in the Audi price range, you can compare to Vettes and shittier Porsches and several BMWs
Vettes and Porsches aren't exactly sedans.
When we were buying we cross-shopped BMW but my wife wanted an automatic after 5 years of rowing gears and Audi's tiptronic was better than the slushboxes in the BMW or Lexus.
Posted by: Scott J. at February 08, 2010 01:29 PM (NY7mQ)
Posted by: KF at February 08, 2010 01:29 PM (tCJ3l)
Posted by: Vivi at February 08, 2010 01:30 PM (PCf6X)
Posted by: George Orwell at February 08, 2010 01:30 PM (AZGON)
Porsche has the laziest designers, reissuing the same shitty design for decades!
Well built, sure, but the 911 platform has to be the longest running poor design in history!?!?
Posted by: garrett at February 08, 2010 01:31 PM (1+Izr)
Also, their new car smell is rated C-.
Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 01:31 PM (dUOK+)
John Edwards famously had a white S4. Douche. And the car he bought Rielle was an A4. Douche.
Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 01:33 PM (dUOK+)
has to be the longest running poor design in history!?!?
...Cornballer - it's still in production in Mexico.
Just Sayin'...and there's always money in the Banana Stand!
Posted by: George Bluth at February 08, 2010 01:33 PM (1+Izr)
Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 01:34 PM (dUOK+)
Posted by: Iblis at February 08, 2010 01:35 PM (9221z)
I've never driven anything but front wheel drive. Isn't rear wheel drive sort of old technology. I'm not a car person so don't yell at me. Be nice and explain.
OK, IMO front-wheel-drive exists because its cheaper to build. Your driveline is a unit that just gets bolted to the front of the chassis.
It was originally touted (in my memory at least) as a fuel-saving measure but I really think it just allowed the companies to cut costs.
From a performance perspective with a front-driver you're asking those tiny little contact patches on the front tires to both steer the car and get the propulsive force to the road. This has an adverse effect on handling.
With the rear driver you split those duties and the handling (and totally subjective overall driving experience) improves.
All-wheel-drive is another matter altogheter and it really matters if it's front biased, rear biased, 50/50 or can distribute forces as needed.
I will say that front drive does have a slight advantage over rear drive in slick conditions since you have more weight over the driven wheels.
Posted by: Scott J. at February 08, 2010 01:35 PM (NY7mQ)
Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 05:34 PM (dUOK+)
I thought she was killed by a ginger.
Posted by: Holger at February 08, 2010 01:36 PM (8NGHm)
the 4 rings represent the buttholes of the village people. I am not joking.
Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 01:37 PM (dUOK+)
A) that's pathetic
B) no, they aren't
C) the word Audi is the egyptian word for limp
Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 01:38 PM (dUOK+)
If you buy an Audi today, you are worse than Hitler.
Hey Goodwin, step back and get a bit of perspective, will you? You're sounding a bit unhinged and Olbermannesque.
Posted by: laceyunderalls at February 08, 2010 01:39 PM (nd+1J)
And it is no coincidence that this also spells the Audi logo.
Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 01:40 PM (dUOK+)
No, Barricade was a Saleen S281.
Posted by: Holger at February 08, 2010 01:41 PM (8NGHm)
I'm in Montuckey, but same difference. Only need about 1/2of what you make in most other places, though.
Yeah, but if I could have the salary I have here out there.....
What a spread I could own.
Plus the heating costs have to be obscene.
Posted by: Scott J. at February 08, 2010 01:41 PM (NY7mQ)
I guess I could point out that Audi was the first company to employ nazi comparisons in their advertisements, but it's not like they ever stopped promoting fascism. Hell, look at the ad at the top of this thread!
Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 01:43 PM (dUOK+)
Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 01:44 PM (dUOK+)
Posted by: FireHorse at February 08, 2010 01:44 PM (cQyWA)
Posted by: Scott J. at February 08, 2010 01:44 PM (NY7mQ)
Posted by: DelD at February 08, 2010 01:45 PM (eWtdM)
No, Barricade was a Saleen S281.
Posted by: Holger"
Oh, I didn't actually watch the movie. Michael Bay sucks.
Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 01:45 PM (dUOK+)
So did BMW, the other non gay Nazi car company that today is pretty kickass.
Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 01:46 PM (dUOK+)
most of its carbon footprint is in its production
So if you buy used like me then you recycle that footprint.
And hot rodders like Iowahawk were the original recyclers of the car world.
Posted by: Scott J. at February 08, 2010 01:46 PM (NY7mQ)
Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 05:45 PM (dUOK+)
He sucks I agree but I've always been a fan of the franchise. And he did use an Audi R8 as Decepticon Sidways.
Posted by: Holger at February 08, 2010 01:47 PM (8NGHm)
Posted by: USA at February 08, 2010 01:48 PM (YZISw)
Posted by: Scott J. at February 08, 2010 01:49 PM (NY7mQ)
Posted by: Comrade Arthur at February 08, 2010 01:50 PM (kWh60)
We get it. You reaaaaally do not like the sparkly gays with their man purses and pink jeans.
Project much?
Posted by: laceyunderalls at February 08, 2010 01:50 PM (nd+1J)
Which I admit, was apt.
Because Audis are for weenies.
Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 01:50 PM (dUOK+)
We get it. You reaaaaally do not like the sparkly gays with their man purses and pink jeans.
Project much?
Posted by: laceyunderallsOh, I'm just being a dick. I don't actually have a problem with Audis or hot studs.
Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 01:51 PM (dUOK+)
If you buy an Audi today, you are worse than Hitler.
Hey Goodwin, step back and get a bit of perspectiveLacey, that's a catchphrase from Greg Gutfield.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at February 08, 2010 01:52 PM (mR7mk)
3 times as many pages pointing out the scientific FACT that Audis are homosexual.
I do not have a problem with gays. I actually think we should not care what goes on behind closed doors. I am just trying to help meterosexuals and effettes find the right car.
Gays fight and die for their country and are often great people. I don't have a problem with them at all. But Audis are their preferred auto.
Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 01:54 PM (dUOK+)
Posted by: laceyunderalls at February 08, 2010 01:55 PM (nd+1J)
That's why I was surprised that the folks in the Doritos ad with the kid who slapped his mother's boyfriend were black. Even if that made it more "believable" (80% illegitimacy rate, yo), you've got a violent child, a lousy mother, and a horndog (and/or abuser, depending on how you read the kid's reaction). "Sensitivity" demands they all be trailer-park whiteys.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at February 08, 2010 01:56 PM (mR7mk)
Imagine the kind of person who would watch it and then spend $50,000 on a car.
There you go.
Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 01:57 PM (dUOK+)
Posted by: Darth Nihilus69 at February 08, 2010 01:57 PM (GfYt/)
3 times as many pages pointing out the scientific FACT that Audis are homosexual.
Asian chicks look good in Audis.
Posted by: Darth Nihilus69 at February 08, 2010 01:58 PM (GfYt/)
Are you trying to say that Audi needs to make better cupholders?
Posted by: Anachronda at February 08, 2010 01:59 PM (3K4hn)
Posted by: Comrade Arthur at February 08, 2010 01:59 PM (kWh60)
Are you trying to say that Audi needs to make better cupholders
Actually, the cupholders in them do suck.
The Germans find our fixation with cup holders a bit odd.
Posted by: Scott J. at February 08, 2010 02:03 PM (NY7mQ)
My Saturn (the old one) didn't have cupholders either.
I personally don't think you need them, but if you're competing with Honda Odysseys for driving pleasure, you aren't in a BMW, you're in an Audi. And if you're in a snore box, might as well have some coffee.
Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 02:05 PM (dUOK+)
Posted by: George Orwell at February 08, 2010 02:07 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: curious at February 08, 2010 02:11 PM (p302b)
Sad, but true.
Now, he rides bicycles. And let's face it: that's not very manly.
Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 02:13 PM (dUOK+)
@265
I couldn't agree more. I have been watching the social engineering that has been going on for years in commercials and T.V. shows. I think it has been one of the most distructive forces in our culture. The T.V. shows are very destructive!
Trying to get a Leftist scumbag to understand how it can be destructive is like trying to explain proper bathroom edicate to Chimpazee!
Posted by: Jimi at February 08, 2010 02:13 PM (fqxV7)
Stepping out of the bash-audi thing for a second, and this is the dumbest aspect of our culture these days.
you can't have a dope who isn't a white dude. And it's extremely annoying. No surprise that Audi does it too, but I am sure all the cool automakers do the same thing in their adverts.
If someone says a pack of white dudes looks like a lynch mob, or is stupid, or redneck, or whatever, and most people don't have a problem with the racism.
Hell, I hear all the time how the TEA movement is somehow flawed because white people attend more than others. You won't ever hear that about a different race.
Lame. Audi isn't any worse than the others in this particular case.
Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 02:16 PM (dUOK+)
Posted by: Iblis
they have the fiesta that gets 60mpg in europe right now....problem is all consumer diesel engines are made in england. oh how i hate 684....i turned down a $18k raise not to drive on that road.
and for all of you hating on audi i have worked on quite a few s4 's that we turned into fire breathing, planet killing, gas guzzeling monsters.
i think the audi a4 sedan was voting the top gay car like 8 years in a row.
i'm still looking for a 6 speed twin turbo s4 avant....wagons are hetro. trust me.
Posted by: evil libertarian at February 08, 2010 02:17 PM (x9lGm)
Posted by: Holger"
Expensive!
M3 is more than enough for me. Not really a bargain either, to be honest. For some reason, the 6 series reminds me of chrysler sebrings. Anything designed by Bangle annoys me, and the 6 series still has that Bangle influence.
Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 02:18 PM (dUOK+)
270, If I'm ever able to afford a sports car again I think I'll look for a bargain in an E36 (1995-1999) M3.
Those are fun.
Posted by: Scott J. at February 08, 2010 02:18 PM (NY7mQ)
Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 02:19 PM (dUOK+)
The commercial was very clear, except to morons/deniers. Get it together people, and stop walking lockstep with those that don't know their @$$ from, etc.! We LIVE on this planet, as do our children and grandchildren, eventually. It is WORTH taking care of, so grow the f up and do what you can!
/Tired of idiots yabbering about something so obvious.
Posted by: Alex at February 08, 2010 02:19 PM (tC+R/)
@272
Hell, name one!....Cause I sure as hell can't! Everytime I try to explain that there is a agenda out there that is focused on "De-balling" or "Feminizing" the Male Population, I get written off as a Nut-Job.
The problem is, I worked in a school system, and you didn't have to be rocket scientist to figure the purpose of some of the policy. If this country would have serious debate about that topic, I'd bet the general population would be amazed at what the public school systems have done to our childern.
Posted by: Jimi at February 08, 2010 02:21 PM (fqxV7)
Posted by: George Orwell at February 08, 2010 02:22 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: The Mega Independent at February 08, 2010 02:23 PM (5I0Yr)
Posted by: George Orwell at February 08, 2010 02:24 PM (AZGON)
Thing that bugs me is the Green Police are acting like Nazis and they also like the Audi. "Hey, look! Nazis like it!" is not a good message.
Posted by: Dang at February 08, 2010 02:25 PM (UA4gE)
Posted by: Wind Rider at February 08, 2010 02:28 PM (XhSwc)
Posted by: Wind Rider at February 08, 2010 02:29 PM (XhSwc)
Posted by: Scott J. at February 08, 2010 02:30 PM (NY7mQ)
Car fans, if you want to see something entertaining Google "Focus ZX351".
Quite entertaining if you've never seen it.
Posted by: Scott J. at February 08, 2010 02:31 PM (NY7mQ)
That is California in the very close future.
Soon they'll be building a Berlin Wall type fence along the border to keep the remaining business owners and taxpayers in the state.
BTW, I like in the first scene when the guy gets his head pushed into the scanner, it beeps and WTF with the aardvark?
Posted by: Max Entropy at February 08, 2010 02:32 PM (uuZjB)
Posted by: Sloppy at February 08, 2010 02:41 PM (1kwr2)
Posted by: George Orwell at February 08, 2010 02:43 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: maddogg at February 08, 2010 02:43 PM (lQT2m)
265, 269: How many TV shows and commercials portray dads in a positive light?
Not many.
Posted by: Scott J. at February 08, 2010 06:16 PM (NY7mQ)
But they have got the Lifetime Channel, an entire channel devoted to the proposition that men are scum.
Posted by: WalrusRex at February 08, 2010 02:48 PM (xxgag)
Posted by: Blinky2010 at February 08, 2010 02:50 PM (snlsw)
Posted by: Alex
i'll be thinking of you during my commute in the morning getting 11 glorious miles per gallon. maybe i'll fire up the pre emissions 1972 planet destroyer and let it idle for an hour or two when i get home. *kisses*
Posted by: evil libertarian at February 08, 2010 02:59 PM (x9lGm)
Posted by: rori at February 08, 2010 03:02 PM (PgpTP)
Posted by: dustydog at February 08, 2010 03:05 PM (7Dddx)
The commercial was very clear, except to morons/deniers. Get it together people, and stop walking lockstep with those that don't know their @$$ from, etc.! We LIVE on this planet, as do our children and grandchildren, eventually. It is WORTH taking care of, so grow the f up and do what you can!
/Tired of idiots yabbering about something so obvious.
Posted by: Alex at February 08, 2010 06:19 PM (tC+R/)
Dear Alex,
Go fuck yourself.
Sincerely,
Di
Posted by: di butler, qualified for Aussie porn at February 08, 2010 03:11 PM (S3xX1)
I mean did they slap the Obama stickers on at the factory or what?
Posted by: Iblis at February 08, 2010 03:12 PM (9221z)
Posted by: If I can't eat it or fuck it, I piss on it... at February 08, 2010 03:47 PM (lxg2b)
Posted by: Herr Blücher at February 08, 2010 03:49 PM (2ioNS)
Posted by: DSkinner at February 08, 2010 03:58 PM (yvN7G)
Yes Alex, it was. ...and yet, there was so much implied off-camera. Swarms of uniformed government police watching your every move; the world which lefties really, really want... What you didn't get to see is that when we find a styrofoam cup in you car at our Green Roadblocks - we will machine-gun you in front of your children. As we load them onto the buses taking them to Diversity Camps we will play lovely classical music. At the camps they will work hard laboring in the hopium mines, and then they will mercifully starve to death on arugula and rotten turnips.
Aren't eco-fascist satire commercials awesome? Heil Gaia!
Posted by: Unterfuhrer Steiner, GPF at February 08, 2010 04:02 PM (ci50A)
They needed for it to be funny. I bet they knocked themselves out, at first, trying to do so by taking the opposite approach, and only gave up after becoming convinced that the green fever side of this debate IS the only truly ridiculous position. Then they tried to do a little ideological jiu-jitsu at the end.
And really? If we're doing this much talking about it in the blogs, (304 comments already, even as I open this comment box), then they've accomplished its main purpose, which is getting attention.
Posted by: Stoop Davy Dave at February 08, 2010 04:04 PM (YnLCQ)
Imagine "Alex" trying to be funny?
That's what they were up against, so they pretty much HAD to lampoon themselves!
Posted by: Stoop Davy Dave at February 08, 2010 04:08 PM (YnLCQ)
Posted by: Beto at February 08, 2010 04:19 PM (+CLh/)
Posted by: mydemonsdriveon at February 08, 2010 04:27 PM (oLbJG)
Posted by: Wikus van de Merwe at February 08, 2010 04:35 PM (9wFH4)
Posted by: A Conservative Teacher at February 08, 2010 04:40 PM (IZIUp)
Kinda sucks if you can't get fuel for it. Make a nice liberal lawn ornament, eh?
Posted by: William Teach at February 08, 2010 04:44 PM (7yTel)
Posted by: Xoxotl at February 08, 2010 04:51 PM (CbVPH)
Posted by: steevy at February 08, 2010 05:08 PM (DhB9z)
Robin Zander of Cheap Trick drives a Hummer 2.
The first time I met Zander back in the 80's backstage, I asked him what kind of car he drove. He said I drive 5 cars. My favorite is a Chevy Malibu.
The part of the commercial that annoys the hell out of me, is when I am reminded that I am not allowed to buy the FUCKING LIGHT BULB OF MY CHOICE.
Posted by: gus at February 08, 2010 05:18 PM (MaqIC)
Posted by: ManBearPig at February 08, 2010 05:41 PM (2jp4I)
I always thought the Prius problems were karmic justice for all the libtards who owned them and voted for Obama.
I mean did they slap the Obama stickers on at the factory or what?
And that there's proof that Karma doesn't exist.
Posted by: ErikW at February 08, 2010 05:46 PM (tmTpz)
This is every leftard's wet dream: to dictate every aspect of our lives. But, like the Obama administration, the ad overplayed its hand to the point where rational viewers come down against its message.
Posted by: Brown Line at February 08, 2010 06:02 PM (BTocB)
Posted by: Iblis at February 08, 2010 06:25 PM (UQCPr)
I take it a step further and say, "No UAW." Sorry, Ford; you were just beginning to manufacture decent looking cars, too. Posted by: Herr Blücher
Perfect is the enemy of the good. My F-150s have a little UAW sticker and it does annoy me, but it's a damn good truck for the money. If socialist unino slobs keep building a truck that doesn't fall apart, I will keep buying them. Now, if some other company where to make a non union truck I found suitable and a similar value, I'd happily change brands.
Anyway, Ford makes everything GM and Chrysler does, better (except perhaps the suburban if you like it). Mustang is better power:weight, everything last longer, and if you can just avoid bailout companies, at least companies will know to avoid that crap.
Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 06:29 PM (dUOK+)
Posted by: La Grande Gaffe at February 08, 2010 07:13 PM (lKZZe)
Posted by: Iblis
and by additives he means urine...really.
Posted by: evil libertarian at February 08, 2010 07:22 PM (x9lGm)
My office full of conservatives thought they were serious. I've watched it three times after reading this thread, and I'm still not convinced they aren't. I guess I'm just a stupid hick who's too pissed off to appreciate parody anymore.
Posted by: The Black Republican at February 08, 2010 08:01 PM (63u7J)
Posted by: OCBill at February 08, 2010 08:14 PM (p28Ei)
That "front wheel drive efficiency design" still won't make it up my driveway in the winter. My A4 does, every time. Even with four to six inches of Glowbull Warming hiding the pavement. I don't know if my next car will be an Audi, but I know for sure it will be AWD.
Related: why are all rally cars all-wheel-drive, instead of "front wheel drive efficiency design?"
Posted by: Scott Crawford at February 08, 2010 09:02 PM (Exrhr)
Oh, and you don't appear to know shit about Rally, since there certainly are Front wheel rally cars.
But again with comparing the performance of a front wheel drive $20,000 family sedan to the performance of a $50,000 sports car. It's pathetic. If that's the comparison you have to make, your car sucks at what it's supposed to do.
and of course it does.
Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 09:15 PM (dUOK+)
Wrong. Accelerating a front-wheel drive car uphill un-weights the drive wheels.
IF you can't drive it, that's not the car's fault.
Skip Barber would disagree with you.
Oh, and you don't appear to know shit about Rally, since there certainly are Front wheel rally cars.
At the back.
But again with comparing the performance of a front wheel drive $20,000 family sedan to the performance of a $50,000 sports car. It's pathetic. If that's the comparison you have to make, your car sucks at what it's supposed to do.
The performance isn't comparable, and you're making an assertion without evidence.
Good night, Gracie.
Posted by: Scott Crawford at February 08, 2010 09:24 PM (Exrhr)
Possibly their driveway is insane. More likely, it's a douchebag driver who is compensating for their life with a car. And as I said initially, that's a big part of what an Audi is for. If you need an AWD (not that Honda doesn't make great AWD cars) just to handle your driveway, you either can't pick a decent home or you are a shitty driver. FF config cars have great snow characteristics, with all the weight being on the drive axle. Now, I wouldn't try to go insane driving a civic down an icy mountain, but if you think you can do that in an Audi, you are a douchebag.
Since the awesome J-WRC series is exclusively front wheel drive awesome rally cars, I have to assume the Audi driver, of course, doesn't understand cars or motorsport very well.
Should have mentioned that insane LMP Audi had for ages, but the idiot had to pretend front wheel drive cars are not suitable for rally.
As I said, the Hondas the Audi is claimed to be better than are simply in a different category, and it's just stupid to make the comparison.
It's more comfortable, much more likely to actually start when the weather is bad, and it costs so much less you can afford to get your driveway-of-death fixed. But in the snow, or for legroom, or for not looking like a douche who didn't know Audi is a shitty automaker, the Honda or the Ford or the BMW is the better car.
Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 09:27 PM (dUOK+)
you suck at logic, and you suck at driving, and skip barber isn't a rally driver.
what's funny is that I attended Skip Barber and drove a front wheel drive Mazda.
You idiot.
Audis aren't really awful cars... I'm obviously joking because it sets off the idiots who roll their ego into their douchey cars. I realize that an Audi is going to be faster than a Honda Odyssey or a Ridgeline. It's just so funny to see someone argue that they need an Audi to make it out of their driveway, and think that's impressive. It's embarassing. you just THINK you need that.
I see drivers like you all the time when it's icy. Your stupid ass car wasn't really ice-proof and you ran off the road. I lumber along in my horrible handling F-150, which really would get its ass kicked in a rally. Though so would an Audi.
If Rally is your fucking God of choosing a car, why in the hell are you selecting an Audi? Seems like the Japanese still have your ass kicked for much less $$$.
Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 09:32 PM (dUOK+)
He replied to such an argument by claiming his Audi is better performing than a much cheaper design. Now, not only is he dead wrong on the idea that an A4 is better than *all front wheel drive cars* for his driveway, but he's making an obviously and almost precisely irrelevant comment.
Perhaps I fell for the troll a bit by noting that many excellent rally cars are front wheel drive. A front wheel drive Citroen C4 is obviously a better rally car than any car Audi has ever produced (this is proven by J-WRC front wheel drive cars routinely beating the very fastest Audi rally times from the good old days when Audi was a great company).
But that hardly matters. What I was talking about was how, for most folks, it just doesn't matter. They need a safe car in the snow, or a reliable car 150,000 miles in the future, or a car that isn't a waste of money. Audi is a terrible choice for anyone like that. That they look douchey is just a matter of opinion (but come on, those R8 headlights are pretty goddamn douchey). That they are faster than cars costing a third or half as much is not important (or even assured in many cases... some front wheel cars are very fast and handle relatively well).
Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 09:55 PM (dUOK+)
Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 09:57 PM (dUOK+)
The Audi R8 is perhaps the ugliest car I've ever seen, aside from GM garbage like the Aztec.
The R8 looks like a douche's paradise. It's about half a second faster to 0-60 and probably turns marginally better, but it looks like it's trying so much harder to achieve something the E-Class does for far less money and in far better comfort and style.
Mine isn't really a class warfare argument. If you're going to compare the Audi to a fucking Honda civic, you have admitted defeat. Compare it to a comparable car like the E-Class. Compare how they look, how they feel, how they perform. Oh, and how they break all the time.
But noooooooo, you have to point out that the Audi is so much better than some econobox... and it's not even convincingly better?
Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 08, 2010 10:06 PM (dUOK+)
Posted by: christmasghost at February 08, 2010 10:39 PM (aUut1)
Yeah and the commercials are pretty bad, too.
But what's up with that deal in between them, where all those bozos line up and crash into each other? That shit is just stupid!
Posted by: Stoop Davy Dave at February 09, 2010 12:49 AM (YnLCQ)
I had 3 VW before and I have 2 VW now(GTI and Jetta). No major problems and a lot of fun.
About ad: Rush discuss it yesterday as sitire on green movement.
Posted by: redmonkey at February 09, 2010 04:42 AM (8K5j5)
I take it as saying "At Audi we adapted to the real Nazis in the 1930s and 40s (and they were a bunch of vegetarian, anti-smoking, astrology believing environmentalist wackos, among their other faults). Now that America is in the grips of a new bunch of smiley face environmentalist fascists, there is no reason that you cannot drive a hot car. No matter what rules these assholes come up with, we'll comply with them and still make a car worth driving."
Posted by: Mark in Texas at February 09, 2010 05:15 AM (oEBcV)
Great Work Audi!
Posted by: DKMY at February 09, 2010 05:36 AM (G3tVb)
I think it has confused everyone who knows or cares much about this issue, because you're used to the trenchant fears and arguments motivating both sides and can't tell if you are supposed to be offended, laugh, or be irritated at their blithely ignorant profiteering.
But the ad-men were obviously targeting the vast majority who don't really care or know a whole lot about the issue and be more inclined simply to adapt to whatever changes enviro's or others think is necessary for some reason and want to have a practical means of getting around in whatever new regulations, policies, or green world "they" think of next.
It's for the guy who says, "As long as I can get to work and out of traffic, who cares. And if I can fly by prius snobs in my diesel audi, and not have to hear from them later about being dirty (since technically I'm 'cleaner'), all the better.
Posted by: mc gm at February 09, 2010 07:05 AM (SlfFN)
and by additives he means urine...really.
Posted by: evil libertarian at February 08, 2010 11:22 PM (x9lGm)
Urea, urine: who cares. Still stinks.
Posted by: Iblis at February 09, 2010 10:42 AM (9221z)
I must have missed the "mixed" part of the message. I see this as a total facial to the greens and, as we know, they hate to be even gently mocked since they have no sense of humor.
Prove me wrong by pointing me to positive reviews from the Left on the ad's humor. I'm not counting the reviews approving of the idea of Green Police.
Posted by: Hucklebuck at February 09, 2010 12:01 PM (9QcNA)
"Now, if Audi would have shown a clip of Al Gore being arrested deboarding his private jet....I would buy 10 of the damn things.
followed by:
Or, the green police going into White House and arresting "The One" for setting his thermostate at 80. I would never, ever drive anything again other than an Audi.
The best zinger. So nice.
And I am quite in favor of "green" everywhere... except when it comes to my thermostat. Don't mess with my thermostat. Build everything differently, if necessary, get rid of most disposable products, apply new green technologies, that's all great.
Oh, and trash plastic bags, still haven't found a practical green solution, but would be willing to change, if it were practical.
Posted by: Ketchup at February 10, 2010 03:24 AM (30gJj)
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Buy Your Audi used.
'nuff said.
Posted by: garrett at February 08, 2010 11:59 AM (1+Izr)