January 07, 2010

Awesome: Gitmo Detainees Might Fight Extradition to Illinios, Because Gitmo Is Nicer
— Ace

Thank goodness we'll end all their complaining and make Al Qaeda like us again!

But the final irony is that many of the detainees may not even want to be transferred to Thomson and could conceivably even raise their own legal roadblocks to allow them to stay at Gitmo.

Falkoff notes that many of his clients, while they clearly want to go home, are at least being held under Geneva Convention conditions in Guantánamo. At Thomson, he notes, the plans call for them to be thrown into the equivalent of a "supermax" security prison under near-lockdown conditions.

"As far as our clients are concerned, it's probably preferable for them to remain at Guantánamo," he says.

No, this doesn't mean "Oh we should send them to Illinois because that's tougher punishment." We should keep them where they are, where we can quarantine them from humanity until this war ends, without implicating the Constitution's more generous protective clauses.

Thanks to DJ.

Posted by: Ace at 04:12 PM | Comments (88)
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1 Bless the DemonCrooks.

Posted by: MDr VB1.0 CS1st at January 07, 2010 04:13 PM (ucq49)

2
why Illinois?

oh oh oh there's some of the juicy tax payer pay to play for the D's.


Posted by: pre-paid sex monster at January 07, 2010 04:13 PM (0fzsA)

3 Okay now kids, this is a PERFECT example of irony.

Posted by: Felix Smerd at January 07, 2010 04:14 PM (nqpxl)

4 I say, please, don't through me into the patch!

Posted by: Br'er Rabbit Muhammed at January 07, 2010 04:14 PM (gJL6J)

5 They've created this hell hole.  Let them lay/lie in it!

Posted by: MDr VB1.0 CS1st at January 07, 2010 04:14 PM (ucq49)

6 Think about it. Where would you want to do time? Cuba or Illinois?

Posted by: Bosk at January 07, 2010 04:14 PM (pUO5u)

7 Well, they're both kleptocracies.

Posted by: Felix Smerd at January 07, 2010 04:15 PM (nqpxl)

8 Football thread!

Cheerleader Pics!

Football thread!

Cheerleader Pics!

Posted by: The Peasants at January 07, 2010 04:15 PM (gJL6J)

9
As a person who suffered through six brutal winters in the Chicago 'burbs, those detainees will think they've died and gone straight to hell.  Let's see.....wicked evil brutal cold winters versus balmy sea breezes. 

Okay.  Works for me.  But only if libtards who voted for Teh Won get to clean up after the bastards and launder their prayer rugs. 

Done!

Posted by: Jane D'oh! at January 07, 2010 04:16 PM (UOM48)

10 I'd rather be in Cuba, too.  (Just over the river in Iowa, we've been hit with about 8 inches of global warming, and with the wind kicking in, it feels like negative digits.)

Posted by: bigpinkfluffybunny at January 07, 2010 04:18 PM (KWhJd)

11 FRICKEN POETIC JUSTICE WITHIN A CIRCLE OF HELL.  Should I feel bad about feeling good about this?


It never really hit home until I watched the Crowder PJTV coverage of Gitmo:  its a full-fledged military base, not the hellish little tree-less island I was lead to believe it was.

So, even I was taken in by the leftist/Obamaist lies.


Posted by: ParisParamus at January 07, 2010 04:18 PM (Hv1Cx)

12

C'mon, you mean after all the stink they would rather remain in a tropical paradise getting fat than go to a cold bleak Illinois Supermax with America's hardened heinous criminals ?


Get the f'ck out.

Posted by: Blazer at January 07, 2010 04:19 PM (t72+4)

13
There's a lot of irony in the Universe of Lies. Funny, that.

Posted by: Posted by: Huge, Quickly at January 07, 2010 04:20 PM (FAI37)

14

i left there yesterday

i wouldn't want to go either

but then again, i'm not in prison

Posted by: ncj at January 07, 2010 04:20 PM (osK+w)

15 Damn, and to think I had all of these new parishoners lined up . . .

Posted by: Reverend Jeremiah Wright at January 07, 2010 04:21 PM (zgZzy)

16 Roll Tide!

Posted by: Bugler at January 07, 2010 04:21 PM (YCVBL)

17 This was always a talking point that was made irresponsibly, and now the Dems won't man up and that they were full of shit about Gitmo. Now the detainees get screwed, we aren't as safe, but some crooked Chicago pols get some graft lucre from a new Supermax.

Posted by: Felix Smerd at January 07, 2010 04:21 PM (nqpxl)

18 ACLU--ENGAGE!

Posted by: ParisParamus at January 07, 2010 04:22 PM (Hv1Cx)

19

Clowncar Administration: OK we're closing Gitmo!

Terrorist vermin: YAY!

Clowncar Administration: You're going to Illinois!

Terrorist vermin: Illinois? Can't we go to Somalia or Yemen?

Posted by: 48%er at January 07, 2010 04:22 PM (QOE7k)

20
ParisParamus, Gitmo is a dream station by many military standards.  And Gitmo is state-of-the-art.  Hell, remember the new flat screen TV's they installed before Bush left office?  They have classes in art, etc.  All the place is missing for those unwashed d-bags is 72 virgins.

Sheesh.  Glad I made it to the liquor store before it closed.

Posted by: Jane D'oh! at January 07, 2010 04:22 PM (UOM48)

21  
Maybe they've been watching those prison specials that MSNBC has on late at night and on the weekends and said:

" Ya' know what, f'ck that ! "

Posted by: Blazer at January 07, 2010 04:22 PM (t72+4)

22 The Cubans play better baseball than the Cubs. No wonder they don't want to leave Gitmo.

Posted by: TonyRezko at January 07, 2010 04:23 PM (YQr7S)

23

6 Think about it. Where would you want to do time? Cuba or Illinois?

I'll take a Cuban sammitch over loose meat any time..

...I know ..I know..bu Thomson is close enough to the Quad Cities to count as Iowa-near

Posted by: rum, sodomy and the lash at January 07, 2010 04:24 PM (AnTyA)

24
On the up side, if the bastards escape they can take Barky's constituents as hostages. 

Posted by: Jane D'oh! at January 07, 2010 04:24 PM (UOM48)

25

22  polemunch

but yeah, its true

btw, boise state should be playing, not texas

Posted by: ncj at January 07, 2010 04:24 PM (osK+w)

26 They've probably been watching the Weather Channel on their satellite TV.

Posted by: Fred R. at January 07, 2010 04:25 PM (Pq3ay)

27

Who's the hot black chick singin'the National Anthem??

Posted by: rum, sodomy and the lash at January 07, 2010 04:25 PM (AnTyA)

28 I'd give Gitmo a solid B +

Posted by: Gitmo detainee at January 07, 2010 04:25 PM (hNekG)

29 how did this info get leaked?  still need to know if this a cloward-piven thing or the real deal.....

Posted by: non_dhimmie at January 07, 2010 04:26 PM (zACGu)

30 Can't we just refurbish Alcatraz and let them sit near the bay.... then 'accidently' send them to art classes at Berkeley?

Posted by: Felix Smerd at January 07, 2010 04:26 PM (nqpxl)

31 not to sound racist but why do blacks always try to turn the national anthem into their own creation?  just sing it damn it

Posted by: ncj at January 07, 2010 04:26 PM (osK+w)

32 Go Texas.  (Damn GA Tech for losing to Iowa.)

Posted by: Jane D'oh! at January 07, 2010 04:28 PM (UOM48)

33 The national anthem is a living, breathing song.

Posted by: Gitmo detainee at January 07, 2010 04:28 PM (hNekG)

34 Hmm--the singer just sang God Bless America, not The Star-Spangled Banner. Either song is great, though.

Where's Illinios? 

Posted by: nitpicky nitpicker at January 07, 2010 04:28 PM (ubVcw)

35 Glad they didn't sing the Rev. Wright version

Posted by: Gitmo detainee at January 07, 2010 04:30 PM (hNekG)

36 29~ well, how could you tell the inmates from the local citizenry?  I mean, besides the fact that the inmates probably don't hate America as much as the natives....

Posted by: bigpinkfluffybunny at January 07, 2010 04:31 PM (KWhJd)

37 Oh, and PS:  it looked quite nice:  palm trees, green... reminds me of the fact I almost chose to stay on Vieques in PR to avoid touristy places on the main island...

Posted by: ParisParamus at January 07, 2010 04:31 PM (Hv1Cx)

38 they would enjoy the snow here now.  HAHAHAHAHA

Posted by: jeff at January 07, 2010 04:31 PM (t6tby)

39

34  shit

joe = idiot

fml

Posted by: ncj at January 07, 2010 04:33 PM (osK+w)

40
Okay, sports fans.  Josh Groban singing the National Anthem (Beck makes fun of him on his radio show). 

Posted by: Jane D'oh! at January 07, 2010 04:34 PM (UOM48)

41 but at least i can spell illinois

Posted by: ncj at January 07, 2010 04:34 PM (osK+w)

42

Hmmm...Cuba??...

...or Illinois?

Posted by: rum, sodomy and the lash at January 07, 2010 04:35 PM (AnTyA)

43 41 It wasn't just me, then.

Posted by: mitpicky nitpicker at January 07, 2010 04:35 PM (ubVcw)

44

34 Hmm--the singer just sang God Bless America, not The Star-Spangled Banner. Either song is great, though

Had the sound down...don't lip synch..

...'sides...I wasn't looking at her mouth

Posted by: rum, sodomy and the lash at January 07, 2010 04:37 PM (AnTyA)

45 42 - I think Illinois would appreciate me more.

Posted by: Felix Smerd at January 07, 2010 04:38 PM (nqpxl)

46 boise would crush either of these teams

Posted by: ncj at January 07, 2010 04:38 PM (osK+w)

47 Musburger......so bad he makes you nostalgic for Keith Jackson

Posted by: Gitmo detainee at January 07, 2010 04:41 PM (hNekG)

48
Look!  They're starting to like us!  They're really starting to like us!

Posted by: Dang at January 07, 2010 04:43 PM (UA4gE)

49 Wow......what a dumbass move

Posted by: Gitmo detainee at January 07, 2010 04:44 PM (hNekG)

50 The next time I see one of those morons (sorry--the other kind) soliciting money for the ACLU/NYCLU in the street:

I will contribute if to the ACLU if you can assure me that the funds will be used solely  for the defense fund to oppose tranferring the Gitmo detainees to a new Illinois prison--deal?


Posted by: ParisParamus at January 07, 2010 04:44 PM (Hv1Cx)

51 How much more incompetent would it make the Obama administration look if the Gitmo terrorists actually were successful in a court battle to allow them to stay there? 

Posted by: Intrepid at January 07, 2010 04:45 PM (92zkk)

52 #51 - HAHAHAHAHA!

Posted by: MCPO Airdale at January 07, 2010 04:47 PM (k5nPY)

53 #51 Not only does it make everyone from McCain leftward look stupid, it even makes Obama look bad separately since IL is his state.  It's MORE DELICIOUS THAN FICTION EVER COULD BE ;-)

Posted by: ParisParamus at January 07, 2010 04:49 PM (Hv1Cx)

54 31 not to sound racist but why do blacks always try to turn the national anthem into their own creation?  just sing it damn it

Posted by: ncj at January 07, 2010 08:26 PM (osK+w)

Apparently you missed Christina Aguilera's rendition

My favorite rendition of the Star Bangled Banner--Whitney Houston (during the Gulf War). I remember my dad screaming" Go hide your face Roseannne Bar, you fat twat!!!"

Posted by: crystal at January 07, 2010 04:50 PM (KVSUW)

55 #51 - What utterly discomforts me about your comment is that it could turn out that way.

Posted by: exdem13 at January 07, 2010 04:51 PM (lYKj1)

56 They don't call it "Club Gitmo" for nuthin'.

Posted by: crystal at January 07, 2010 04:51 PM (KVSUW)

57 Wait.  I'm not sure McCain was for closing GB; I'm confusing that with his position on waterboarding.  Sorry if I defamed Senator McCain on this point.

Posted by: ParisParamus at January 07, 2010 04:56 PM (Hv1Cx)

58 Yes, I was mistaken.  So it's everyone left of McCain. 

Posted by: ParisParamus at January 07, 2010 04:58 PM (Hv1Cx)

59 4 I say, please, don't through me into the patch!

Posted by: Br'er Rabbit Muhammed

Okie, that's some extra-funny stuff right there!

And hell, lets send them up to York Factory Manitoba!

http://preview.tinyurl.com/p7f3kh

If that linky works, you'll need to pull back a lot to figure out where it is.

Posted by: 5Cats at January 07, 2010 05:03 PM (O5yP8)

60 ACLU is going to have a ball when the first detainee FREEZES TO DEATH.

Posted by: GarandFan at January 07, 2010 05:05 PM (ZQBnQ)

61

Nuts!

Go Bing-map it yourself!

Crappy Wiki

Posted by: 5Cats at January 07, 2010 05:07 PM (O5yP8)

62 funniest end of civilization, ever.

Posted by: tangonine at January 07, 2010 05:07 PM (C8Pcc)

63

The U.S. Marshals Service is searching for three escaped federal prisoners, including a man from Chicago, who fled from the Tri-County Detention Center in Ullin in Southern Illinois.  Officials would not give any details about the method by which the men escaped.

The three men, Miguel Robles-Moya, 35, of Chicago, Rodney Brown, 35, of Alton, Ill., and Thomas Glaab, 28, of Anna, Ill., are all considered armed and dangerous.  The three escaped either late Tuesday night or early today, said U.S. Marshal Don Slazinik, Southern District of Illinois. They were wearing institutional jumpsuits at the time of their escape but have since discarded them.

Robles-Moya was held at the detention center on immigration charges. Rodney Brown was being held on federal charges as a felon in possession of a weapon and Glaab was held on charges of possession of methamphetamine.

The facility is county-owned and is staffed by contract workers, said U.S. Marshal Don Slazinik, Southern District of Illinois. County, state and federal prisoners are housed there.

State panel votes in favor of Illinois Gitmo plan

The TribuneÂ’s Clout Street blog reports: A panel of lawmakers voted today in favor of letting Gov. Pat Quinn close a little-used prison in northwestern Illinois so the Obama administration can use it to hold terrorism suspects now held at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

The 7-4 vote by the Illinois Commission on Government Forecasting and Accountability was largely on party lines, with Democrats supporting the sale of the Thomson Correctional Center to the federal government and all but two Republicans opposed.

The vote was advisory and Quinn was expected to move ahead with the plan regardless.

 

Posted by: runningrn at January 07, 2010 05:12 PM (CfmlF)

64 No, this doesn't mean "Oh we should send them to Illinois because that's tougher punishment." We should keep them where they are, where we can quarantine them from humanity until this war ends, without implicating the Constitution's more generous protective clauses.

No, it means we should keep them where they are, but "thrown into the equivalent of a "supermax" security prison under near-lockdown conditions." I'm sick and tired of spending millions of dollars every year coddling these terrorists. Fuck Amnesty International, fuck the Red Cross Crescent, and fuck the ACLU!

If Bush had had any balls, when the Supreme Circus ruled that these unlawful combatants were being denied their rights, Bush should have said "Sorry, Sparky, you don't have jurisdiction over Gitmo."

They shouldn't have been water-boarding the fucking terrorists, they should have been sulfuric-acid-boarding them. "How does that feel, mother-fucker? Still feel like cutting off civilian's heads? You do? Hey, Corporal: Hook the battery cables to this dick-wad's testicles. We'll find out if you have any pertinent information about future terrorist attacks."

But noooooo. They get their own prayer rugs, their own copy of the Koran, kosher meals, TV, games, and on and on and on. We need more Cool Hand Luke ("Boy, what we have here is a failure to communicate!") and less Mary Poppins ("A spoon full of sugar will help the medicine go down!"). They've got a lot better living conditions than I did when I was stationed in Korea.

How did the lunatics end up in charge of the asylum?

Posted by: RoadRunner at January 07, 2010 05:14 PM (tyQJS)

65 #64 kosher meals

Are you being ironic, or do you mean halal?  Actually, it would be cool to tell these demons that their food was humanely killed, and bless by a Joo, but I'm sure that would be deemed cruel and illegal...

Posted by: ParisParamus at January 07, 2010 05:27 PM (Hv1Cx)

66 If this tidbit, and the resultant pants-sh*tting from the left, isn't on the 2010 top stories list somewhere, I'll eat my hat. Or something hat-shaped, like a hat-shaped cookie. This is friggin' hilarious. I can't wait until I can unload this on a lib in polite company. And, by unload, I mean slice like an f'n hammer!

Posted by: Johnny I at January 07, 2010 05:43 PM (SY5UR)

67 implicating ?

Posted by: sheik Yamani at January 07, 2010 05:46 PM (mhD2v)

68 The last time that a POTUS began to try and think that he was somehow "more equal " than the Supremes he had to resign

Posted by: sheik Yamani at January 07, 2010 05:48 PM (mhD2v)

69 65 Kosher, halal, tomayto, tomahto, big fuckin' deal; it's all the same thing.
-------------------------
68 The last time that a POTUS began to try and think that he was somehow "more equal " than the Supremes he had to resign

You must be a liberal. Ever hear the phrase "Separation of Powers"? How about "Activist Courts"? "Legislating from the Bench"? Any of these sound familiar? You may want to read Mark Levin's Men in Black (on second thought, it has some big words; you may want to get the audio book version).

Our country is doomed.

Posted by: RoadRunner at January 07, 2010 06:01 PM (tyQJS)

70 #64 kosher meals Are you being ironic, or do you mean halal? Actually, it would be cool to tell these demons that their food was humanely killed, and bless by a Joo, but I'm sure that would be deemed cruel and illegal Actually, halal and kosher are virtually the same, considering they came from the same source-Talmud. Muhammed borrowed liberally from that and the Christian Bible when he "received" his revelations from Jabril. Several Muslim friends would ask for kosher food, since that was more recognizable than Halal. (granted, this was years before 9/11, when we all became well versed in Islam.) Anecdotal, I know, but after 10 + years in the Middle East, I'm gonna claim first hand sourcing.

Posted by: mokimoki at January 07, 2010 06:03 PM (IrV7s)

71

BWAHAHAHA!!!

Dennis Miller predicted this exact scenario months ago.

Beautiful!

Posted by: ErikW at January 07, 2010 06:05 PM (p9zZN)

72

Ya know I was actually thinking about this a while ago.... I saw a special on NGTV about an aging maximum security State prison in Michigan. The conditions would appear horrible to the average normal law abiding person....cold & rotton baloney sandwhiches on a styrofoam plate, living in fear of being raped frequently by aggressive african americans, 1 hour of fresh air per week, getting into fights and then getting throwin into solitary for a few day's at a time. Real nasty shit.

Short of my personal preference for slow torture followd by grotesque execution, these conditions seem like a perfect alternative for a country/society with no balls to deal with the worst criminals and terrorists. Keep them in these conditions for life.

Either recreate the conditions of the worst state penetentiry down at gitmo or let them mingle with the general population of these prisons here in the states. A much more humane way to deal with the problem overall. The state inmates would love some fresh muslim ass to explore.

Gitmo is a friggin country club. If they get shipped to the States, they will be sgregated and given the same cushy conditions they now recieve at gitmo. No fucking difference. The only way to make this a burden for them is to have them experience real prison life everyday untill they croak or get killed.

There is a reason why the Roman Empire lasted as a form of a Rebublic with a polyglot mixture of people for almost 500 years. They dealt with this shit appropriately. This country will be lucky to last another 50-100 years if we keep this nonsense up.

Additionaly.... while I am at it... .... I am convinved that zero is the manchurian candidate. If you ever had to create the perfect individule to invade the executive branch in order to destroy the country from within, then zero is it. But now I am letting paranoid conspiricy theories get the better of me

Posted by: Last Conservative In Brooklyn at January 07, 2010 06:21 PM (7uAeI)

73 #70, yes, but do you think these fine men at Gitmo (and their supporters around the world) would be content with "hey, jew-kosher is just as good as halal? 

(I am Jewish, and all derogatory references I eva make to Jews are facetious)

Posted by: ParisParamus at January 07, 2010 06:23 PM (Hv1Cx)

74 #72, I am in Brooklyn, too--that makes four of us...

Posted by: ParisParamus at January 07, 2010 06:24 PM (Hv1Cx)

75

I am convinved that zero is the manchurian candidate.

No. The Manchurian candidate was, to outward appearance, a loyal American. No one in the 48% was (or is) living under that delusion.

Posted by: andycanuck at January 07, 2010 06:32 PM (2qU2d)

76 Hell they would have to give up the royalties on all of that club Gitmo gear. I hope the ACLU takes up their cause. From a tropical paradise to Illinois. That's cruel and unusual punishment.

Posted by: buffalobob at January 07, 2010 06:33 PM (vEEX3)

77 At least in Illinois it won't get so hot they tear their own hair out and leave it in a convenient pile for Dick Durbin to discover.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 07, 2010 07:37 PM (PQY7w)

78 Many of you are reasonably prosperous (or perhaps formerly prosperous) Westerners who've traveled various places outside US borders.

So you've seen the kinds of cabins, cottages, etc. that pull three hundred bucks a night or more in the distant reaches of the Pacific.   You recognize that "ecotourist resort" is another term for "no AC, no plumbing, and scorpions in the outhouse."   Perhaps you've learned, when traveling to China's heavy-industry hinterlands, to ask for the hotel that isn't upstairs from the meat-dog restaurant.

So, fundamentally, as with everything else in life it's a matter of tradeoffs.  At Club G-Bay you've got working AC, a library, and a full-service kitchen; on the downside access to windsurfing beaches sucks and the checkout desk isn't well-staffed.

I think the military should try an experiment.  Now that the place is emptying out a bit, put some peak-season weeks up on RCI or Redweek or one of the other timeshare-exchange networks.  Maybe they can move the fences around a little bit and do some landscaping.   See what kind of interest they get. 

At least when you're eating halal at Gitmo you're not gonna find out that meat you just pulled out of the hot-pot was Fido.

Posted by: mrkwong at January 07, 2010 07:38 PM (G8Eo0)

79

My evil desire to send them to a supermax in snow-land fights with my desire to keep them out of the U.S.

I'm arm wrestling myself to decide.

Posted by: St. Agnostica at January 07, 2010 07:43 PM (gbCNS)

80
Another policy is total disarray.


Posted by: PJ at January 07, 2010 09:10 PM (Qpxxz)

81 What we should do is wring them for intelligence until they're dry, and then make an assessment: are they still a threat? If no, dump 'em back in whatever camel-humping hellhole they came from with the promise that if their fingerprints subsequently turn up on so much as a parking ticket then their lives are forfeit; if yes then march them out of the interrogation chamber to kneel in front of an executioner and get a .45ACP to the base of the skull. We've been fighting these mattress stains since that schizophrenic paedophile Mohammed first busted out of Arabia and enslaved a vast arc of the Earth from Morocco to the Philippines. Time for a new fucking Crusade.

Posted by: David Gillies at January 07, 2010 10:05 PM (g4zXx)

82 Im still saying those terrorists should be living with their biggist supporters in HOLLYWOOD

Posted by: Spurwing Plover at January 07, 2010 10:43 PM (878xL)

83 Send them to the South Pole and let them escape. Pack up and go back home.

Posted by: harleycowboy at January 08, 2010 04:17 AM (JKGfQ)

84 Well, now we know why the guys who escaped in Yemen rejoined AQ - they were hoping to get back into Gitmo!

Posted by: Reactionary at January 08, 2010 04:20 AM (xUM1Q)

85 Well the administration certainly needs to do something about this, because after all, according to Obama, Guantanamo is the reason the Christmas day bombing attempt occurred in the first place.

Posted by: Scott at January 08, 2010 04:42 AM (KexVx)

86 Woah, why did it add "minx.cc" to the beginning of my url in the above comment?

Posted by: Scott at January 08, 2010 04:44 AM (KexVx)

87 I don't need UGG boots, but I might welcome the terrorists in Illinois. They could blow up Chicago City Hall, the county buildings etc. ! Just joking Jan N.

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