September 15, 2010

Ayotte Wins In New Hampshire
— DrewM

New Hampshire's GOP Senate primary, last night's red headed stepchild, was officially decided today and Sarah Palin's candidate won there too.

Ovide Lamontagne says he is considering, but has not yet decided, whether to seek a recount of primary election results that show him losing by only 1,667 votes to Kelly Ayotte.

But a source told UnionLeader.com he is leaning against the challenge.

Lamontagne told UnionLeader.com moments ago he will closely analyze the numbers this afternoon and make an announcement at 4 p.m. at the Legislative Office Building.

"We're looking at the numbers. They've been in flux since last night," he said. "We're continuing to consider our options."

I have to say I'm a bit sick of these endless, "let's prolong the process" gambits. Unless there's really a compelling reason to continue on, just say, "Congratulations to my opponent" and get off the stage. And no, "But I wanted to win!" is not a compelling reason.

According to pre-primary polls, Ayote was in good shape over Democratic nominee Paul Hodes.

If Ayote wins, she will keep the seat in Republican hands by replacing retiring Senator Judd Gregg.

In a related enough note, Lisa Murkowski says she will announce on Friday whether she will run a write in campaign against Republican Joe Miller and Democrat Scott McAdams.

Today is the deadline for parties to swap candidates on the November ballot. The Murkowski-Libertarian dance ended last week but people are waiting to see if the Democrats try and replace the little known McAdams with someone like the more well known former governor Tony Knowles. It's unlikely and everyone has denied it will happen but with Democrats, you never know.

Meanwhile, Mitch McConnell has told Murkowski it's time to "move on"

Posted by: DrewM at 10:44 AM | Comments (139)
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1 retiring Senator Judd Gregg.

It never fails. I always read that as Judge Dredd.

Posted by: Waterhouse at September 15, 2010 10:47 AM (fd91o)

2 Lisa's waiting to make an announcement that nobody cares about anymore.

I mean, seriously, a write-in candidacy?  Now?  After all this water under the bridge and Tea Party Power?  Any possible mojo she might have had for a write-in candidacy (with whatever constituency she has in AK) has long since dissipated.

We'll keep waiting for you to make up your mind Sen. Murkowski.  I'll hold the phone for ya.

Posted by: Jeff B. at September 15, 2010 10:48 AM (NjYDy)

3 It would be nice if the Repubs could unify for November. You know, kind of give it their best shot. Get over the hurt feelings and everything, try not to implode for a change.

Posted by: real joe at September 15, 2010 10:48 AM (IpIBJ)

4 Bummer I was all-in on Ovide. Oh well, maybe he takes a run at governor next time 'round assuming we don't grab it this November. Meanwhile, in OD land, she's taking in *massive* bucks--heading for 500k: http://christine2010.com/

Posted by: ECM at September 15, 2010 10:48 AM (nYKDd)

5 Lamontagne was the TEA party candidate, right?  Why did they back him over Ayotte?

Posted by: Y-not at September 15, 2010 10:48 AM (osFsP)

6 By the way, I would have been fairly copacetic with either outcome in the NH-Sen primary.  Ayotte's slightly more electable, but Lamontaigne wasn't O'Donnellesque poison or anything.  And we got the right candidates in the congressional races -- Guinta and Bass will win handily.  Hell, John Lynch might even have a chance of getting Roy Barnes'd.

Posted by: Jeff B. at September 15, 2010 10:50 AM (NjYDy)

7 Today is the deadline for parties to swap candidates on the November ballot. The Murkowski-Libertarian dance ended last week but people are waiting to see if the Democrats try and replace the little known McAdams with someone like the more well known former governor Tony Knowles.

Even money says Murkowski runs as a Democrat, all the while harpy-shrieking about the "extremists" and "hijacking".

Posted by: Rob Crawford at September 15, 2010 10:51 AM (ZJ/un)

8 I could totally win a write-in candidacy.  The seat is mine to begin with, ever since Daddy gave to me and people know how to write, right?

Posted by: Lisa "Muffy" Murkowski at September 15, 2010 10:51 AM (EW49d)

9 Just for note:

In less that 15 hours, Christine O'Donnell has raised nearly 400,000 USD. Her current goal is 500,000 USD. This may be reached in the next 3-4 hours. Add to that the 42,000 from the NRSC, 175K that DeMint's PAC is gonna try and raise for her, and you got a woman with over 700K. If Coons has 1 million, as people have said, then in less than 24 hours, O'Donnell has more than halved the money gap.

Ordinary barbarians are donating to her fund. Big Donors are likely to also come out soon. Something is brewing in DE now, and it hasn't even been 1 day since.

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Back to Ayotte, if Lamontagne concedes and doesn't challenge, that'll give him a chance to run for the OTHER Senate seat and take out Jeanne Shaheen. Trust me, it'll give him a lot of goodwill.


Posted by: Pipe Barackage at September 15, 2010 10:51 AM (Gwfoy)

10 #5 - I don't know specifics, but from what I've heard, he's just more conservative.  With Palin endorsing Ayotte, I don't know that it's _much_ more conservative, but something.

I'm also guess, since Palin is almost always in line with the Tea Party spirit, that the two groups will unite pretty easily once it's all done.

Posted by: AllenG at September 15, 2010 10:52 AM (8y9MW)

11 Sarah Palin has the magic, sensual, soft..loving touch when it comes to helping candidates.

Posted by: beerologist at September 15, 2010 10:52 AM (gNzDf)

12 Palin saved Ayotte (and very possibly John McCain too).  Moral to more moderate Republicans:  get on her good side.

Today's funniest development:  Romney jumping on the O'Donnell-support bandwagon.  Unfortunately, if he's President he won't be able to see what Palin and DeMint do in order to copy them a month later.

Posted by: someone at September 15, 2010 10:52 AM (DfAwB)

13 For those who weren't paying attention to politics back in 2002, what I mean by "Roy Barnes'd" is this: in the GA elections that year, everyone was focusing on the Max Cleland/Saxby Chambliss matchup, where Chambliss came from behind to shock Cleland.  But what was even MORE shocking was that when the voters decided to toss out Cleland they went ahead and booted out their supposedly untouchably popular Democratic governor Roy Barnes as well.  (This guy was thought to be as untouchably popular as Gov. as Joe Manchin currently is in WV or Mike Beebe in AR)  We got Sonny Perdue instead, who was never even thought to have a chance in hell of winning that race.  He's wrapping up his second (and final) term as governor this year.

So I'm just saying, guys like Lynch who look untouchable....funny things can happen during wave elections, and he fits the profile.  These are the sorts of things I'm going to talk about.

Posted by: Jeff B. at September 15, 2010 10:53 AM (NjYDy)

14 Crap!  Can't think of a thing to be pissed off about.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at September 15, 2010 10:56 AM (RkRxq)

15

Jeff B.:

 

That's unpossible!  Everyone knows that if a poll says something today, it is always and ever shall be. 

 

 

Posted by: blaster at September 15, 2010 10:56 AM (Ov86C)

16 this November, EVERYONE is 'touchable'. 

Reach out and touch a candidate today.....

( I can see a Republican Congress from my house, bitches   !!!11!!! )

Posted by: SantaRosaStan at September 15, 2010 10:56 AM (dPcmp)

17 I am very interested to see how much money O'D raises by the end of the day. 

Posted by: GT at September 15, 2010 10:56 AM (Vyrg6)

18 Polynikes - I'm cool with that.  You prefer a sausage party? 

Posted by: blaster at September 15, 2010 10:57 AM (Ov86C)

19 I'll take the Ravens over the Jets on MNF. In fact, I'll go out on a limb and say that the final score will be 10-9.

Posted by: Mitt Romney at September 15, 2010 10:57 AM (yQWNf)

20

Today's funniest development:  Romney jumping on the O'Donnell-support bandwagon.  Unfortunately, if he's President he won't be able to see what Palin and DeMint do in order to copy them a month later.

Can we just stop this. Sore losers like Murkowski and Castle are bad enough, but sore *winners* don't help.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at September 15, 2010 10:57 AM (ujg0T)

21 Today's funniest development:  Romney jumping on the O'Donnell-support bandwagon.  Unfortunately, if he's President he won't be able to see what Palin and DeMint do in order to copy them a month later.

someone,
 
Two thoughts...

-If you want party unity, don't give folks shit for getting on board. No one is saying he's an early adopter or responsible for her win but what's the incentive for getting in line if you get shit for it anyway?

-One thing is certain beyond a shadow of a doubt...in the current anti-establishment environment Mitt Romney's presidential aspirations are deader than whoever is burred in Grant's Tomb.

Posted by: DrewM. at September 15, 2010 10:57 AM (ycZcD)

22 19 Polynikes - I'm cool with that.

Really?  You're cool with that.  I'm not. 

Posted by: Y-not has a vajayjay at September 15, 2010 10:58 AM (osFsP)

23 Damn it. These unelectable Tea Party candidates just keep getting....elected.


Posted by: Karl Rovian at September 15, 2010 10:58 AM (wFMDa)

24 @21
+10

Posted by: Y-not has a vajayjay at September 15, 2010 10:58 AM (osFsP)

25 Well, my guy lost, but I'm ready to support the winner. Why in the hell are these primaries so late???

Posted by: MissTammy at September 15, 2010 10:59 AM (m8uUu)

26 So I'm just saying, guys like Lynch who look untouchable....funny things can happen during wave elections, and he fits the profile.  These are the sorts of things I'm going to talk about.

Posted by: Jeff B. at September 15, 2010 02:53 PM (NjYDy)

Glad to see you're thinking positively about O'Donnell's chances in November.  Good for you!

Posted by: stuiec at September 15, 2010 10:59 AM (fgCQL)

27 24 Damn it. These unelectable Tea Party candidates just keep getting....elected.

In NH (the topic of this thread) the TEA Party candidate lost. 

Posted by: Y-not at September 15, 2010 10:59 AM (osFsP)

28

11 Sarah Palin has the magic, sensual, soft..loving touch when it comes to helping candidates

Er... uh...

Bunk.

Posted by: Bat Chain Puller at September 15, 2010 10:59 AM (SCcgT)

29 A lot of people talk about the coming "Red Wave".  As much as I would like to think of it as a conservative thing, I am starting to believe that it is more of an "ant-incumbent wave", or an "anti-political class wave".

We have some really experienced politicians, getting whooped by relative newcomers.

Posted by: Rickshaw Jack at September 15, 2010 10:59 AM (uztAS)

30 Back to Ayotte, if Lamontagne concedes and doesn't challenge, that'll give him a chance to run for the OTHER Senate seat and take out Jeanne Shaheen. Trust me, it'll give him a lot of goodwill.


Posted by: Pipe Barackage at September 15, 2010 02:51 PM (Gwfoy)

When is this other seat up for election?

Posted by: dogfish at September 15, 2010 11:00 AM (Ncv/n)

31 oh and BTW, as Sarah is in my age group ( more-or-less ) it's okay for me to admit in public that I'd like to  be alone with her and a can of Ready-Whip and lotsa velvet for a few hours.......

( okay, realistically, ten or fifteen minutes; maybe less )


Posted by: SantaRosaStan at September 15, 2010 11:00 AM (dPcmp)

32

Palin has a litmus test for candidates she endorses. 

Its preferable if they have vajajay.

She knows women can be ruthless. Just look at your wife, girlfriend or daughters.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at September 15, 2010 11:00 AM (L8kaT)

33 Speaking of women in politics, how about this incredible discovery:

 

Woman capable of perceiving the loss of credibility that derives from the holding to of a totally untenable position.

 

No.  ItÂ’s the author.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at September 15, 2010 11:00 AM (RkRxq)

34 I wonder if MeggieMac would campaign for me?  She's, like so smart and' stuff.  Didyou know she wrote a book?  All by herself???

That's, like sooo cool.

Posted by: Lisa "Muffy" Murkowski at September 15, 2010 11:00 AM (EW49d)

35 One thing is certain beyond a shadow of a doubt...in the current anti-establishment environment Mitt Romney's presidential aspirations are deader than whoever is burred in Grant's Tomb.

Crap.  Anyone want some free books?

Posted by: Hugh Hewitt at September 15, 2010 11:00 AM (p05LM)

36 I like that Romney is more mature than Castle et al.

But it's also funny that he'll be trying to take credit for being one of the Tea revolutionaries when primary time comes around.

Anyway, I'll lay off.  No more taunting, though this wasn't about Delaware but 2011-2012.

Posted by: someone at September 15, 2010 11:01 AM (DfAwB)

37
Lamontagne was twenty seven points behind in the polls a little more than a month ago.   It was Tea Party support that made his race close.  He ran on a shoe-string budget and would have done really well in Washington.  Much better than Ayotte.

I think Palin backed Ayotte because of the big point differential (remember MSM is looking for her to trip up just once so they can fan the flames of fear, uncertainty, and doubt).   Also Palin didn't do serious research on Ayotte (i.e. the planned parenthood issue).   Finally Palin seems to be franchising "Mama Grizzlies" as a kind of new feminism, perhaps at the expense of core Tea Party issues.   


Posted by: fapo at September 15, 2010 11:01 AM (Hq48F)

38

Boy, that Sarah woman has no impact, huh?

Seriously, I've never seen an electorate so engaged and enraged.

My motto for libs. "Kill them all, let God sort 'em out"

Figuratively, of course.

just sayin'

 

Posted by: BIG ROB at September 15, 2010 11:01 AM (K6o07)

39 I'm not a supporter of Mitt, but come on- he hadn't endorsed anybody.  Just a few weeks ago we were talking about Let the Voters of [State] Decide!!!  Well, they did, and now- with no prompting and no particular cost if he just stayed out of it, Mitt Romney has endorsed COD.

Credit where it's due, better late than never, whatever you want to call it, it's the right move, and I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt that its for the right reason.

Posted by: AllenG at September 15, 2010 11:02 AM (8y9MW)

40 Funny thing: if the November elections go well, Sarah Palin will have a bloc of sitting US Senators owing her some big political favors.  Odd that the person whom "everybody" describes as an igloo-trash idiot would be in such a powerful position of influence... or maybe not so odd, after all.

Posted by: stuiec at September 15, 2010 11:03 AM (fgCQL)

41 Holy cow.  I'm not generally an ass man, but Sainz has one incredible rear.

Posted by: someone at September 15, 2010 11:03 AM (DfAwB)

42 I think Palin backed Ayotte because of the big point differential (remember MSM is looking for her to trip up just once so they can fan the flames of fear, uncertainty, and doubt).   Also Palin didn't do serious research on Ayotte (i.e. the planned parenthood issue).   Finally Palin seems to be franchising "Mama Grizzlies" as a kind of new feminism, perhaps at the expense of core Tea Party issues.  

I think your last point is the strongest.  Being a barren woman and all, I ain't too impressed by that angle, but I've become less and less impressed by Palin over the past few months.

If she was worried about backing losers, she should have stayed out of the MD gubernatorial primary.  Her candidate got clobbered.  (Thank God!) 

Posted by: Y-not at September 15, 2010 11:04 AM (osFsP)

43 Scrub a dub dub

Posted by: Christine O'Donnell at September 15, 2010 11:04 AM (bN5ZU)

44 Sainz has one incredible rear.

Posted by: someone at September 15, 2010 03:03 PM (DfAwB)

In other news, the sky is blue; rain is wet, fire burns

Do these jeans make me look fat?

Posted by: Sainz's booty / junk in the trunk at September 15, 2010 11:05 AM (dPcmp)

45 40 I'm not a supporter of Mitt, but come on- he hadn't endorsed anybody.  Just a few weeks ago we were talking about Let the Voters of [State] Decide!!!

THIS. 

Honestly, I think far too many outside people weigh in on local primary races. 

Posted by: Y-not at September 15, 2010 11:05 AM (osFsP)

46 Clean up on aisle #44...stop letting trolls pour salt in healing wounds.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at September 15, 2010 11:06 AM (ujg0T)

47 "In NH (the topic of this thread) the TEA Party candidate lost."

Oops. My bad.

How does this help us RINO's?

Can we spin this?

Posted by: Karl Rovian at September 15, 2010 11:07 AM (wFMDa)

48 "Posted by: Christine O'Donnell at September 15, 2010 03:04 PM (bN5ZU)"

What the fuck?

Primary season is over.  Keep your shit thoughts on this year's GOP candidates to yourself.

Posted by: someone at September 15, 2010 11:07 AM (DfAwB)

49 The sock is ParisParamus, btw.  Not cool.

Posted by: someone at September 15, 2010 11:07 AM (DfAwB)

50 Posted by: AllenG Agreed.

Posted by: Lincolntf at September 15, 2010 11:07 AM (EHI/u)

51

I think you're being cavalier about saying Palin's litmus test includes having a vajajay.  As amusing as it is to say "vajajay", it's wrong to make that accusation.  You need to tell us why her choices of female candidates were the wrong choices.  Then, and only then, should you have something to say about her alleged bias. 

Posted by: braininahat at September 15, 2010 11:08 AM (q1suJ)

52 Lamontagne ... ran on a shoe-string budget and would have done really well in Washington.  Much better than Ayotte.
All that's fine - aim for the -other- Senate seat in a couple years. He's now got much more name recognition, and probably a better war chest.

Posted by: Al at September 15, 2010 11:08 AM (MzQOZ)

53 who is a faggot and married to the boy's other father.

Posted by: Christine O'Donnell at September 15, 2010 03:04 PM (bN5ZU)

you 'guys' seem to be able to recognize each other somehow

the Miracle of Gay-dar.........

Posted by: SantaRosaStan at September 15, 2010 11:08 AM (dPcmp)

54 I'm hoping that the establishment GOP types can simmer down a bit a realize that they can still be a part of this effort to bring this country back to the people.  I know for myself, that if Castle would have won, I would have backed him, although I'd have to go find the puke can that I had during the McCain campaign. But I would have backed him.  The alternative is too stark to comprehend otherwise.  Two or more years of Obama and a democrat congress would just about kill this country.    

Posted by: Soona at September 15, 2010 11:09 AM (f/05g)

55
Are shit-thoughts like my mind thoughts?

Are shit thoughts what I think about while I'm on the toilet?

Posted by: Scott Beauchamp at September 15, 2010 11:09 AM (uFokq)

56 "up on aisle #44" So we can burn American flags, but burning Korans and making Mike Castle jokes are off-limits?

Posted by: Christine O'Donnell at September 15, 2010 11:09 AM (bN5ZU)

57 I seem to recall someone posted the list of candidates Palin's endorsed recently and there were more men than women by a decent margin.  Anyone know where to dig up that info?

Posted by: Ian S. at September 15, 2010 11:09 AM (p05LM)

58 Not a Mitt supporter either, but get off him, he did the right thing.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at September 15, 2010 11:10 AM (L8kaT)

59

Obama spokesman Gibbs plumbs the depths of idiocy and boldly declares,  "I can go deeper!"

http://tinyurl.com/29sajyp

 

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at September 15, 2010 11:10 AM (RkRxq)

60 57 "up on aisle #44"

So we can burn American flags, but burning Korans and making Mike Castle jokes are off-limits?


I think the main problem is the use of the term that rhymes with maggot.

Posted by: beerologist at September 15, 2010 11:11 AM (gNzDf)

61
laggard?

haggard?

Posted by: Scott Beauchamp at September 15, 2010 11:12 AM (uFokq)

62
We have some really experienced politicians, getting whooped by relative newcomers.

Posted by: Rickshaw Jack at September 15, 2010 02:59 PM (uztAS)

no, if that were true McCain would have lost. People also forget that Rubio was the 'establishment' choice, as were several other R primary winners this year.


Been watching the MFM a lot?  CNN loves this meme....

Posted by: SantaRosaStan at September 15, 2010 11:12 AM (dPcmp)

63 O'Donnell is raising about $1,000 a minute right now.  I was agnostic on the race but have to admit I am impressed by the money flowing in.  I would love to know the average amount... my guess is it is around $100 which means a ton of donors.

Posted by: GT at September 15, 2010 11:12 AM (Vyrg6)

64 58 I seem to recall someone posted the list of candidates Palin's endorsed recently and there were more men than women by a decent margin.  Anyone know where to dig up that info?

The only things I have seen posted - and I've looked and asked around - was a final tally, if you will, of her endorsements.  They were roughly 50/50 (men may had a slight edge... it might have been closer to 55/45 or 60/40).  Unfortunately, that's not informative because we need to know the candidate pool (and viable candidate pool) from which she was selecting, especially since I assume there are still more men in politics than women. 

Posted by: Y-not at September 15, 2010 11:12 AM (osFsP)

65 NOOOOOOOOO!

Not the Orkin man!

NOOOOOOOOO!

Posted by: Henry Waxman at September 15, 2010 11:12 AM (BP6Z1)

66

Suck.

 

I blame Palin's endorsement.  With her, its grrrrl power first and the conservative movement second.

Posted by: Emperor of icecream at September 15, 2010 11:13 AM (epBek)

67 enough with the puerile stuff

Posted by: Turd In The Punch Bowl at September 15, 2010 11:13 AM (wFMDa)

68

If I was only 1600 votes, out of 100K, behind... I'd take a long look at the numbers too before I'd concede.

With all the crappy Elections we've seen the last couple of years... the system is not reliable at this point...

I'd look for really lopsided districts... or abnormal patterns... like too MANY voters...

Posted by: Romeo13 at September 15, 2010 11:13 AM (H+oXM)

69

Paladino (Gov, NY) is killing Rick Sanchez on CNN right now!

 

Posted by: JDW at September 15, 2010 11:14 AM (pgFlh)

70 scrubbing bubbles

Posted by: Christine O'Donnell at September 15, 2010 11:14 AM (bN5ZU)

71 Yesterday was the last intra-GOP contest.

Today Christine is our girl, just like Mark Kirk is our guy.

You don't like it?  Promote some other person *who's actually running*.  Forget the primary losers.  They no longer exist.  Those arguments are ancient history.

Posted by: someone at September 15, 2010 11:14 AM (DfAwB)

72 We have some really experienced politicians, getting whooped by relative newcomers.

Posted by: Rickshaw Jack at September 15, 2010 02:59 PM (uztAS)

I think that's kind of the point, though.

In my mind "experienced politician" means that they are more corrupt and better educated on how to fuck us up the ass.

I know it's a cliche but I'd rather have a farmer representing me in Congress than an attorney with aspirations of power.

Posted by: ErikW at September 15, 2010 11:14 AM (kCDp6)

73 How about this joke:

Two disappointed GOP candidates lose in their respective primaries, and concede gracefully....Hey, it could happen.

Posted by: Jack at September 15, 2010 11:14 AM (bvDV5)

74
Have some of you been drinking?


Posted by: Scott Beauchamp at September 15, 2010 11:14 AM (uFokq)

75 If a candidate doesn't protest a close count, their supporters get ALL pissed off about it.

Posted by: jeannie at September 15, 2010 11:15 AM (GdalM)

76

Obama spokesman Gibbs plumbs the depths of idiocy and boldly declares,  "I can go deeper!"

http://tinyurl.com/29sajyp

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at September 15, 2010 03:10 PM (RkRxq)

We call that "whistling past the graveyard."

Or, if you want to be charitable to Gibbs (I almost threw up a little in my mouth typing that), you could say he was channeling Reagan and looking for the pony in the mountain of horseshit the voters have dumped on the Democrats' front lawn.

Posted by: stuiec at September 15, 2010 11:15 AM (fgCQL)

77 stinky isn't funny

Posted by: Turd In The Punch Bowl at September 15, 2010 11:15 AM (wFMDa)

78 31 Back to Ayotte, if Lamontagne concedes and doesn't challenge, that'll give him a chance to run for the OTHER Senate seat and take out Jeanne Shaheen. Trust me, it'll give him a lot of goodwill.


Posted by: Pipe Barackage at September 15, 2010 02:51 PM (Gwfoy)

When is this other seat up for election?

Posted by: dogfish at September 15, 2010 03:00 PM (Ncv/n)

Shaheen's seat is up in 2014.  She defeated John Sununu in '08 (after losing to him in 2002).  Losing Sununu was a real bitch -- a smart economic conservative and a guy who was way out in front of the pack on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

As for Lamontagne, I have to say that he showed something in this race.  He started out looking and talking like a *very* rough candidate, little more than a crank, but he really upped his game.  I figured if he won the nomination last night it wouldn't have been the worst thing in the world, more like a Jane Norton/Ken Buck scenario.  The mood may not be quite the same in 2014, but I wonder if he'll be back in some capacity.

Posted by: Jeff B. at September 15, 2010 11:15 AM (NjYDy)

79

   Finally Palin seems to be franchising "Mama Grizzlies" as a kind of new feminism, perhaps at the expense of core Tea Party issues

 

Could it be also that the Republican/conservative women are showing they have bigger balls than many of the GOP men?  

Posted by: Soona at September 15, 2010 11:16 AM (f/05g)

80 Two disappointed GOP candidates lose in their respective primaries, and concede gracefully....Hey, it could happen.

Posted by: Jack at September 15, 2010 03:14 PM (bvDV5)

And endorse their opponents in a show of party unity... oh, God, I'm going to wet myself from laughing!

Posted by: stuiec at September 15, 2010 11:16 AM (fgCQL)

81 it is more of an "ant-incumbent wave", or an "anti-political class wave".

this is the part I intended to 'paste'; this is what I think is the invalid argument,  Jack

Posted by: SantaRosaStan at September 15, 2010 11:16 AM (dPcmp)

82

Could it be also that the Republican/conservative women are showing they have bigger balls than many of the GOP men?  

Posted by: Soona at September 15, 2010 03:16 PM (f/05g)

That's undisputed fact at this point.

Posted by: stuiec at September 15, 2010 11:17 AM (fgCQL)

83 somebody's cruising for a banning

Posted by: Ribbed For Your Pleasure at September 15, 2010 11:17 AM (wFMDa)

84 80

   Finally Palin seems to be franchising "Mama Grizzlies" as a kind of new feminism, perhaps at the expense of core Tea Party issues

 

Could it be also that the Republican/conservative women are showing they have bigger balls than many of the GOP men?  


I've been thinking this also, we have some kickass women on our side.

Posted by: beerologist at September 15, 2010 11:17 AM (gNzDf)

85 people know how to write, right?

Uhh, Muffy?  You're talking about Alaskans here, remember?

Posted by: CUS at September 15, 2010 11:17 AM (wOGfT)

86 I am an idiot

Posted by: SukitTREBEK at September 15, 2010 11:18 AM (jBC6p)

87

Posted by: stuiec at September 15, 2010 03:15 PM (fgCQL)

Just goes to show that there is a place in the world for even total brainless idiots.  I just can't figure out why.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at September 15, 2010 11:18 AM (RkRxq)

88
hahaha, toby has a stalker!


Posted by: Scott Beauchamp at September 15, 2010 11:18 AM (uFokq)

89 many trolls here there are today


Posted by: SantaRosaStan at September 15, 2010 11:18 AM (dPcmp)

90

Increasingly, Sarah Palin is coming off as quite astute, far more astute than I would have guessed. I don't really care if these endorsements she's making are based on her personal assessment, or the assessment of a group of people we could label Palin, Inc. The outcome is the same either way. But, I actually think it's her reasoning that drives it.

Posted by: Wm T Sherman at September 15, 2010 11:18 AM (tm15w)

91 Cleanup squad en route.

Posted by: someone at September 15, 2010 11:19 AM (DfAwB)

92

Y-Not - I am cool with the vajayjay.  All my candidates have the vajayjay.  As far as I know.  There was one night I was really drunk and the chick I was dancing with had really broad shoulders, but she lost the primary and the general, so, as I said, as far as I know.

But I don't think it is true that Palin would always back the woman in a race just because she is a woman.  But I do think she would be more likely to make an endorsement if there is a woman with the right set of policies. 

As you note, her candidate - a MAN - got clobbered in MD. 

Posted by: blaster at September 15, 2010 11:19 AM (Ov86C)

93 So, when did Kilgore Trout decide to grace us with his presence?

Guess those "no-ads" subscriptions ain't selling too well over at the Lizard Pit.

Posted by: stuiec at September 15, 2010 11:20 AM (fgCQL)

94 still not funny

Posted by: Ribbed For His Pleasure at September 15, 2010 11:20 AM (wFMDa)

95
just say, "Congratulations to my opponent" and get off the stage

If by "getting off the stage" you mean "going to work to get my party's nominee win the general election", then yes.

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at September 15, 2010 11:21 AM (1hM1d)

96 Just goes to show that there is a place in the world for even total brainless idiots.  I just can't figure out why.

What I can't figure out is how the Obama Administration, purportedly the world's sharpest bunch of political operatives EVAR, don't realize that having this doofus as their mouth-breathing mouthpiece is hurting them.  Then again, blindness to obvious bad optics is sort of a running theme with this administration.

Posted by: Ian S. at September 15, 2010 11:21 AM (p05LM)

97 Ovide can run for house now that he has name recogniton, and then clobber sheehan in 14.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at September 15, 2010 11:22 AM (L8kaT)

98 As you note, her candidate - a MAN - got clobbered in MD.

By another man.

I think she is clearly branding her movement with this Momma Grizzlies thing.  I think it's a stupid - and mildly offensive - "brand."  I don't care what equipment you possess or whom you like to schtump, frankly. 

But I have not been able to find the raw data to ascertain if she is more likely to endorse a woman than a man, so I won't really accuse her of it.  But it is my impression.  And it irritates me to think that's what she's doing. 

Posted by: Y-not at September 15, 2010 11:22 AM (osFsP)

99 She knows women can be ruthless. Just look at your wife, girlfriend or daughters. Posted by: Guy Fawkes at September 15, 2010 03:00 PM (L8kaT) I can't, she jerks the leash when I look up. (Try the veal!)

Posted by: joncelli Franklin at September 15, 2010 11:23 AM (RD7QR)

100 There was one night I was really drunk and the chick I was dancing with had really broad shoulders, but she lost the primary and the general, so, as I said, as far as I know.

Posted by: blaster at September 15, 2010 03:19 PM (Ov86C)

I met her in an HQ in old SoHo
Where her head campaign spokesman said she supported tax cuts
T-A-X cuts, tax cuts....

Posted by: stuiec at September 15, 2010 11:23 AM (fgCQL)

101 "gay" is a good description of this stupidity

Posted by: Ribbed ForToby's Ass at September 15, 2010 11:24 AM (wFMDa)

102

 So, when did Kilgore Trout decide to grace us with his presence?

Guess those "no-ads" subscriptions ain't selling too well over at the Lizard Pit.

 

Heh.

Posted by: Soona at September 15, 2010 11:24 AM (f/05g)

103

Mike Castle is not a Troll

he just plays one on TV

Posted by: SukitTREBEK at September 15, 2010 11:25 AM (jBC6p)

104 This is the first time I've heard of a potential to place Knowles on the (D) ballot. I doubt that they will but I do think that if they did, it would be smart of them. Knowles was a good governor for this state and he knows how to weather storms, as evidenced by the various little scandals a daughter of his got into. He was generally well liked here, even by those who normally would vote party line.

Posted by: AkRonin at September 15, 2010 11:25 AM (sSyL9)

105 I met her in an HQ in old SoHo
Where her head campaign spokesman said she supported tax cuts
T-A-X cuts, tax cuts....

LOL.

I just re-watched that Futurama episode where Zap Branigan serenades Leela with a variation on this tune.  funny stuff. 

Posted by: Y-not at September 15, 2010 11:25 AM (osFsP)

106 Damn everyone seems kind of bitchy................you would think there was an election last night or something..

Posted by: Old Hippie Vet at September 15, 2010 11:26 AM (OefT/)

107 Two thoughts...

-If you want party unity, don't give folks shit for getting on board. No one is saying he's an early adopter or responsible for her win but what's the incentive for getting in line if you get shit for it anyway?

-One thing is certain beyond a shadow of a doubt...in the current anti-establishment environment Mitt Romney's presidential aspirations are deader than whoever is burred in Grant's Tomb.

Posted by: DrewM

I heartily agree. And the 'early adopter' is kinda funny in a 'please don't flame me ,please put down the gun' kinda way.

Posted by: Blue Hen at September 15, 2010 11:27 AM (R2fpr)

108

63  People also forget that Rubio was the 'establishment' choice,

 

Your joking, right??

Posted by: Opus at September 15, 2010 11:27 AM (IebeI)

109

 Damn everyone seems kind of bitchy................you would think there was an election last night or something..

 

All the trolls will be binging the next few days.

Posted by: Soona at September 15, 2010 11:28 AM (f/05g)

110 AkRonin:  I suspect personal popularity as Governor probably isn't going to cut it this year.  Look at the WV race!

Posted by: someone at September 15, 2010 11:28 AM (DfAwB)

111 My guess:

Palin's Ayotte endorsement was based on the calculation that she was good enough on the issues, electable, and if that wasn't enough the woman-thing tipped it over.   It came early and it mattered.

In Delaware Palin (and DeMint, unless he was just following her lead) saw something that said that the O'Donnell train was leaving the station, that she really did have an insurmountable lead and that she'd win with or without the endorsement and Palin might as well get on board with the winner.  She'd never have endorsed Castle, but unless she smelled a win she wouldn't have jumped on the O'Donnell bandwagon.


Posted by: JEM at September 15, 2010 11:30 AM (o+SC1)

112  People also forget that Rubio was the 'establishment' choice,

 

Your joking, right??

 

I saw that but forgot to comment on it.  Someone hit this troll with a cluebat.

Posted by: Soona at September 15, 2010 11:31 AM (f/05g)

113

Your joking, right??

Posted by: Opus at September 15, 2010 03:27 PM (IebeI)

no I'm not--and work on your grammar.

To the extent that the GOP still has an 'establishment' in Fla ( mostly Jeb leftovers ) it supported Rubio

Posted by: SantaRosaStan at September 15, 2010 11:33 AM (dPcmp)

114 Someone tell my landlady to hold her horses.  Her next several years' worth of rent checks are pouring in as we speak.

Posted by: Christine O'Donnell at September 15, 2010 11:35 AM (Clpp8)

115 Palin endorsements: 25-11
Palin endorsement tracker

Posted by: sig at September 15, 2010 11:36 AM (2i+Vz)

116 Remember -- when Palin endorsed Ayotte, her main rival was a much more serious RINO (Binnie).  This is similar to Cali, where she backed the mainstream GOPer (Fiorina) over the hardcore guy (DeVore) to ensure the big squish (Campbell) wouldn't win.

It also builds the GOP woman brand, which in the long run is not a bad thing.

Posted by: someone at September 15, 2010 11:37 AM (DfAwB)

117 Not for nothing, but O'Donnell is raising about $1,500 a minute now. 

Posted by: GT at September 15, 2010 11:37 AM (Vyrg6)

118 Not for nothing, but O'Donnell is raising about $1,500 a minute now.

Hot damn.  I can start looking for nicer digs.

Posted by: Christine O'Donnell at September 15, 2010 11:38 AM (Clpp8)

119 .......and before anyone starts wailing about Crist, he was always on the margins of what passes for a GOP 'establishment' in Fla.  He alienated a lot of people in the Party, and had Mucho Baggage

The official GOP support he got against Rubio was lukewarm

When Crist lost to Rubio, a lot of people were relieved.  Rubio is up 16 points over Crist already, BTW.

Posted by: SantaRosaStan at September 15, 2010 11:39 AM (dPcmp)

120 There's going to be more blocked posters. We need unity, NOW. No attempt at insight, nothing original, just the same tired, played garbage, over and over again: faggot jokes, appearance smack, the same nonsense. This just in: Calling someone a faggot is not a take. . . .

Posted by: Jim Rome at September 15, 2010 11:40 AM (bN5ZU)

121

In Delaware Palin (and DeMint, unless he was just following her lead) saw something that said that the O'Donnell train was leaving the station, that she really did have an insurmountable lead and that she'd win with or without the endorsement and Palin might as well get on board with the winner.  She'd never have endorsed Castle, but unless she smelled a win she wouldn't have jumped on the O'Donnell bandwagon.

You sure?  It isn't like every one of her candidates have won, nor were they all winning when she endorsed. 

I don't think that her O'Donnell endorsement was opportunistic - I think she thought she could help bring a better candidate to run for the Senate.    

And she obviously doesn't buy into this "guarantee this seat is gone for a generation" crap, either.  Because she wanted to get credit by backing a candidate to win in the primary that's a sure loser in the general?  I don't follow the logic. 

Posted by: blaster at September 15, 2010 11:40 AM (Ov86C)

122 @118
Thanks, but it doesn't answer the question of her potential bias to endorse female candidates.  Although the tally is 23 women an 20 men, we need the raw data (the candidate pool) to know if she statistically favors women. 

The 24 vs 19 TEA party vs establishment thing may be a bit more telling, especially if some of the establishment races didn't have TEA party candidates running. 

Posted by: Y-not at September 15, 2010 11:40 AM (osFsP)

123 Palin has made 43 endorsements, 23 women, 20 men so that is just about even. 25 wins, 11 losses so far. Considering how many of those wins were people who were not front runnners then it is DAMN GOOD!

Posted by: Dan at September 15, 2010 11:43 AM (1jzSs)

124

Kelly Ayotte can see both sides of an issue. 

At the same time!

(I know, cheap joke.  I'm pleased she won)

Posted by: s'moron at September 15, 2010 11:49 AM (UaxA0)

125 Could it be also that the Republican/conservative women are showing they have bigger balls than many of the GOP men?

No.  Ever heard of Lamontagne?  The obscure guy this thread is about?

Posted by: Emperor of Icecream at September 15, 2010 11:56 AM (epBek)

126

http://tiny.cc/zi4uc

 

This blog prdicted Ayotte's win based  last night based onoutstanding booth results-in depth analysis of palin's go forward effect on the Republican Party-the nomination is hers to lose if she wants it.

Posted by: MJS at September 15, 2010 12:05 PM (LY9pi)

127 What do we know about Ayotte's positions? I hope she isn't a McCain or Graham.



Posted by: blindside at September 15, 2010 12:08 PM (x7g7t)

128

Reflect for a moment on how Palin terrifies the Reds. She endorses a candidate, he wins. Obama campaigns for a candidate, he loses. Can't get much plainer than that.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at September 15, 2010 12:13 PM (0WgpZ)

129

I have to say I'm a bit sick of these endless, "let's prolong the process" gambits. Unless there's really a compelling reason to continue on, just say, "Congratulations to my opponent" and get off the stage. And no, "But I wanted to win!" is not a compelling reason.

A modest proposal: we agree to all requests for a recount, but if the requester loses, we execute him. Raises the ante on these clowns - do you really think you won? - and precludes more Gore-style bitching and whining.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at September 15, 2010 12:15 PM (0WgpZ)

130 What do we know about Ayotte's positions? I hope she isn't a McCain or Graham.

Oh, you just know she probably is.  She's no doubt a RINO.  A traitor.  Impure.  Masturbates a lot.  Can't be trusted.  No Republicans can be trusted.  It will probably be better for us in the long run if the Democrat wins that seat.

Oh by the way, keep that money coming in!

Posted by: Christine O'Donnell at September 15, 2010 12:16 PM (Clpp8)

131

122

Crist was hand picked by the NRSC (establishment) way before the Primary.  He got all the support, even when the NRSC knew that Rubio was planning on running. 

Also Crist never "lost" to Rubio, as they didn't face off in the Primary due to Crist's switch to Indy. 

Posted by: Opus at September 15, 2010 12:21 PM (IebeI)

132

Palin's endorsement of OD came when the latter was still several points behind and was being strafed daily by the GOP shit-cannon.  Many commenters, including most here, called her decision to endorse OD nuts,crazy, a disaster, etc.  But she called it, no?

Face it, this lady either has the best polling in the business, or she has great, great instincts for what GOP voters are going to do in 2010.  I'm guessing the latter.  She's plugged in in a way no GOP pro has ever been.

Posted by: louis tully at September 15, 2010 12:23 PM (K/USr)

133 what anti-incumbent wave does anyone see in the Democratic primaries ?  none ...

Posted by: Jeff at September 15, 2010 12:35 PM (A3tpD)

134 Y-not, we get it.  You don't like Palin.

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at September 15, 2010 12:45 PM (Snu7z)

135 Geez, I don't care who does it from NH, as long as anyone sends Paul Hodes back to the drama dept. He's the prototypical, self-righteous, progressive know-it-all-what-everybody-should-do world-changer. He makes MA's Barney Frank look tolerant.

Posted by: BuddyPC at September 15, 2010 01:00 PM (nSkOL)

136

| Could it be also that the Republican/conservative women are showing they  have bigger balls than many of the GOP men?

Jebus.  Here I am at the most conservative blog on this side of the Milky Way and I have to argue the shortcomings of identity politics?

Ayotte and her organization was surprised by the endorsement of Palin which indicates to me that the endorsement was made at arm's length, without a lot of deep research.  I would also venture to guess that since the endorsement came around the time of the Beck extravaganza down in D.C. that Sarah was very busy working other bigger issues while blowing spitballs over the fence at Joe McGuiness..  There's a good chance that she delegated the endorsement in New Hampshire to a few of her research minions who were anxious to look for someone that fit her narrative.

All wild eyed conjecture on my behalf, of course, which would never happen around here.



Posted by: fapo at September 15, 2010 01:10 PM (Hq48F)

137 Seriously, Fapo.  If I wanted to read paeans to affirmative action, I join ACORN.

Posted by: Emperor of Icecream at September 15, 2010 01:21 PM (epBek)

138

All the trolls will be binging the next few days.    Posted by: Soona at September 15, 2010 03:28 PM (f/05g)

We like trolls here, they are tasty when slow screwed cooked over an open pit fire AoSHQ style.

Now if you are callin me a troll you and your momma can blow me....and then get the fuck off my lawn.

Posted by: Old Hippie Vet at September 15, 2010 01:53 PM (OefT/)

139

But I don't think it is true that Palin would always back the woman in a race just because she is a woman.  But I do think she would be more likely to make an endorsement if there is a woman with the right set of policies. As you note, her candidate - a MAN - got clobbered in MD.

Posted by: blaster at September 15, 2010 03:19 PM (Ov86C)

She backed Rick Perry over Kay Barely Republican and 9-11 truther crackpot Debra Medina, Joe Miller over Senator Veruca Salt, and Doug Hoffman over Dede Scuzzyfavabeans, so she doesn't always pick the chick. 

There are a lot of factors that go into this.  Her PAC pays a research firm big bucks to vet the candidates she endorses.  There's no denying she's got a big soft spot for women, underdogs, and military vets, but they don't override ideology completely, with the exception of one (Terry Branstad in Iowa, which was purely about the 2012 caucuses).  With McCain it was a combination of loyalty and the realization that Hayworth is a horseshit candidate, borderline-corrupt pork-whore, and loose cannon who couldn't even hold on to his Congressional district as an incumbent.

Looking at the female candidates she has endorsed, the vast majority of them are pretty solid.  Fiorina isn't running away from conservatism in the general election.  Haley and Bachmann are both pure awesomeness.  Going down the list, other winners include Suzanna Martinez, Mary Fallin, Star Parker, Cathy McMorris-Rodgers, Anne Marie Buerkle, Vicki Hartzler, Jackie Walorski, Martha Roby, and Renee Ellmers.  They're all solidly conservative and most are electable.  A few who have lost were pretty good too.  Rita Meyer (who has a very impressive military resume) would have handily won in Wyoming.

Regarding Kelly Ayotte, the fact that LaMontagne and his supporters called her a RINO does not make it so.  She's every bit as conservative as he is.  Secondarily, Palin endorsed Ayotte before anybody knew who the fuck LaMontagne was.  IMHO, he was polling in single digits and the race was between uber-RINO Hinn and Ayotte at that point (kind of like Fiorina in CA, where the most important thing was stopping Campbell).  A lot of this was driven by Laura Ingraham's jealous bitchiness (queen bee syndrom, I think).  Knocking both Palin and Ayotte down a rung would have made her feel good.

Posted by: ol_dirty_/b/tard at September 15, 2010 07:38 PM (cOuuE)

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