June 24, 2010

Boycott Fox News (?)
— Ace

No, seriously.

Chief executives of several major corporations, including Hewlett-Packard, Boeing, Disney and News Corp., are joining Mayor Michael Bloomberg to form a coalition advocating for immigration reform — including a path to legal status for all undocumented immigrants now in the United States.

The group includes several other big-city mayors and calls itself the Partnership for a New American Economy. It seeks to reframe immigration reform as the solution to repairing and stimulating the economy.

Bloomberg and Rupert Murdoch, chairman and CEO of News Corp., appeared together Thursday on Fox News to discuss the effort.

Why single FoxNews out? Because it's one of the few actors here where a boycott would actually have a big influence.

My problem here is that Murdoch's behind the scenes influence -- money, mostly -- probably carries a lot more weight than his viewers' opposition to this, even if his news channel is friendly to that opposition. And I don't really want him carrying the flag for this.


Posted by: Ace at 10:13 AM | Comments (330)
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1 Beck's gonna put a fist through a chalkboard...

Posted by: reason at June 24, 2010 10:16 AM (kC3nL)

2 How many illegals are going to pony up the taxes that go along with citizenship, once naturalized? The IRS is going to need some new help. ACORN, are you listening?

Posted by: sailor mouth at June 24, 2010 10:16 AM (SdxKc)

3 I am the confused.  Headline / story don't seem to synch up.  Then again, I am a Moron.

Posted by: ATaLien at June 24, 2010 10:17 AM (SkRi5)

4 Disney?

Speedy Gonzales.. doing the job that Mickey Mouse won't.

Posted by: IreneFingIrene at June 24, 2010 10:18 AM (JKe0g)

5
Whatever the big elite richer than God uber-bubble-dwellers think is a good idea for the rest of us, we should do the opposite.

Why can't we abide by our laws and go the LEGAL immigration route?
Aren't we just inviting the entire world to come here?
The entire world on the American Tax payer dole?  How is this a good idea?


Posted by: Lemon Kitten at June 24, 2010 10:18 AM (0fzsA)

6 Support immigration reform- because the last overblown, racially tinged exercise in graft and chicanery is working out so well.

Posted by: People who will never personaly regret this stunt at June 24, 2010 10:18 AM (R2fpr)

7 The group includes several other big-city mayors and calls itself the Partnership for a New American Economy.Partnership for Really Cheap Labor. Fixed it for them.

Posted by: joncelli at June 24, 2010 10:18 AM (RD7QR)

8 Rupert has been giving me reasons to hate him for a while now.

This is the straw that broke the kangaroos back.

Posted by: Rickshaw Jack at June 24, 2010 10:18 AM (bPkzf)

9 including a path to legal status

There is a path. It leads south to fucking Mexico, where they are legal.

Posted by: Waterhouse at June 24, 2010 10:19 AM (pxrjp)

10 As a concerned religious conservative, I approve of this rational path to citizenship. Buy flowers from my websites ads and get free credit reports too.

Posted by: M. Medved at June 24, 2010 10:19 AM (AZGON)

11

You think any of them are gonna file, assuming they even owe, mouth?

Clearly they have had no problem breaking federal laws since they got here.  Most won't even blink at tax evasion; if anything, they will get to start up an "IRS is racist!" meme if collections ever get too inconvenient...

Posted by: reason at June 24, 2010 10:19 AM (kC3nL)

12 The group includes several other big-city mayors and calls itself the Partnership for a New American Economy.

I'd call it "Treason United".  Does the word "sovereignty" really mean nothing these days?

"secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity"

Seems pretty clear to me.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at June 24, 2010 10:19 AM (Qp4DT)

13 You know that danged fence I was talking about? Never mind.

Posted by: John Fucking McCain at June 24, 2010 10:20 AM (AZGON)

14 RACIST!!!

Posted by: Slow Poke Rodrigweez at June 24, 2010 10:21 AM (vcpXx)

15 And if they choose not to take the yellow brick path to legal status, what then? Good luck getting an answer from any of these idiots on that.

Posted by: Blue Hen at June 24, 2010 10:21 AM (R2fpr)

16
The illegals will not be net tax payers, they will become net tax receivers.  Democrat voters.  Free goodies will be bestowed upon them.
Illegal immigrants already enjoy much of our generosity and free shit.

I feel sorry for all of the kind people who abide by the law and come here legally.  What a slap in the face.

 

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at June 24, 2010 10:21 AM (0fzsA)

17 HP and Disney are not hiring illegals. Maybe they'd like to see lower wages across the board or something, but don't beclown yourself implying that corporations that size want illegals here so they can exploit them.

Posted by: spongeworthy at June 24, 2010 10:21 AM (rplL3)

18 Hey look, I found another path to legal status! Problem solved, Partnership for the New American Economy!

Posted by: Waterhouse at June 24, 2010 10:21 AM (pxrjp)

19 Partnership for a New American Economy

That's Newspeak for "An Economy With No American Blue Collar Workers", right?

Posted by: DrewM. at June 24, 2010 10:21 AM (X/Lqh)

20 Yet another data point re: Fox News not really being conservative, but just acts it on television.

Posted by: Abdominal Snowman at June 24, 2010 10:21 AM (1Bu4F)

21 You give FOX too much credit. Their viewers empower them, not visa versa.

Posted by: Ace's sly, psuedo alarmist headlines sure catch my eye at June 24, 2010 10:22 AM (sYrWB)

22

How many illegals are going to pony up the taxes that go along with citizenship, once naturalized?

 

CAYATE, GRINGO!! That's your job.

Posted by: Pedro Pendejo at June 24, 2010 10:22 AM (ofeiM)

23 Chief executives of several major corporations crony capitalist organizations, including Hewlett-Packard, Boeing, Disney and News Corp., are joining Mayor Michael Bloomberg to form a coalition advocating for immigration reform permanent Democrat majorities as partners in liberal fascism.

Posted by: the Corrections Desk at June 24, 2010 10:23 AM (AZGON)

24 We likes cheap labor. We likes it a lot.

Posted by: Partnership for a New American Economy at June 24, 2010 10:23 AM (SCcgT)

25
"If you want to solve the unemployment problem in America, you have to open the doors to immigrants who will come here, create businesses, because when the tide comes in, everybody's boat rises," Bloomberg told reporters Thursday.
Creating the businesses Americans are too lazy to create.

Posted by: Atomic Roach at June 24, 2010 10:24 AM (Oxen1)

26 My consumption of Little Mermaid DVDs and Hannah Montana episodes ends today!

Posted by: Cicero at June 24, 2010 10:24 AM (QKKT0)

27 I am all for allowing unrestricted immigration, with just a few requirements.

1. PhD in a science or engineering discipline.
2. Demonstrated expertise in the real world (not just academic achievement).
3. No more than 1 wife can ride coattails.
4. Wife must be hot.

Maybe #4 is better as a suggestion.

Posted by: Polly Anna at June 24, 2010 10:24 AM (LH6ir)

28

Why would he even open his yapper on something like that?

Congratulations, Rupert.  You're a hero.  An irresponsible, self-indulgent hero. 

Posted by: rdbrewer at June 24, 2010 10:24 AM (8Urru)

29 When immigrants are legalized, only legals will be immigrants!

Posted by: Mitch McConnell at June 24, 2010 10:24 AM (VXBR1)

30 This is one of those feel good initiatives, HP wants as many h-1B's as Hurd can get his hands on to cut costs further. Most big companies want immigration reform so they have more choice in who they can hire.

Posted by: John at June 24, 2010 10:24 AM (6FYZ6)

31 This doesn't mean that the blonde anchors are going to be replaced by brunettes does it?

Posted by: tgibson1962 at June 24, 2010 10:24 AM (kdPP6)

32

"Disney?"

They've already let enviro-weenie talking points slip into the preschool programming my 5-year-old takes in.  I can't wait to see the amnesty-awareness episode of Handy Manny...

Posted by: reason at June 24, 2010 10:24 AM (kC3nL)

33 Sockpuppets!

Posted by: NJConservative at June 24, 2010 10:24 AM (LH6ir)

34 Our vision of the foundations of the New American Economy:

1. Kidnappings
2. Cocaine
3. Prostitution

Posted by: Partnership for the New American Economy at June 24, 2010 10:24 AM (pxrjp)

35 I love ALL of my Brown Brothers and Sisters...except the ones that are actually related to me. 

Posted by: Barack Obama at June 24, 2010 10:25 AM (+1pUx)

36 We likes cheap labor. We likes it a lot.

Posted by: Partnership for a New American Economy

 

What else are we supposed to do if the union thugs finally get busted for robbing every state and municipality blind? We need this new base.

Posted by: cabal to create a new client class at June 24, 2010 10:25 AM (R2fpr)

37 Yeah, there is nothing like importing millions of people in poverty to a nation to stimulate the economy.  I wonder why Mexico isn't booming right now?  We don't have enough undereducated, low-skilled workers, we need more!

Posted by: Ken Royall at June 24, 2010 10:25 AM (9zzk+)

38 I wonder what Ailes thinks of this.

Posted by: rdbrewer at June 24, 2010 10:26 AM (8Urru)

39
"If you want to solve the unemployment problem in America, you have to open the doors to immigrants who will come here, create businesses, because when the tide comes in, everybody's boat rises"
Heh. Create business = Taco Wagon set up in Gas Station Parking Lot
2 jobs created or saved!!

Posted by: Vincent Vega at June 24, 2010 10:26 AM (vcpXx)

40

1. Grant amensty to all illegals.

2. ????????

3. Recoverd economy!

Posted by: ATaLien at June 24, 2010 10:26 AM (SkRi5)

41 Pedro Pendejo is oppressing me.

Posted by: sailor mouth at June 24, 2010 10:27 AM (SdxKc)

42 Creating the businesses Americans are too lazy to create.

Posted by: Atomic Roach at June 24, 2010 02:24 PM (Oxen1)

And too smelly. Boy, do those Americans smell. They stink up the visitors' gallery all the time.

Posted by: Hairy Reid and Nostrilitis at June 24, 2010 10:27 AM (Qp4DT)

43
A virtual fence that would work:
Outlaw money transfers to Mexico

Posted by: Atomic Roach at June 24, 2010 10:27 AM (Oxen1)

44 The group includes several other big-city mayors

Jeezus, enough already.

Posted by: The Chicken at June 24, 2010 10:27 AM (w9BEi)

45 Finally someone's standing up for us.

Posted by: Brotherhood of Illicit Substance Importers at June 24, 2010 10:27 AM (pxrjp)

46 Yea! We're officially the party of Big Business now!

Posted by: DNC at June 24, 2010 10:28 AM (gbCNS)

47 Becoming a partner with Mike Bloomberg on anything should be a red flag the size of Manhattan.

Posted by: George Orwell at June 24, 2010 10:28 AM (AZGON)

48  Yard Tool and Leaf Blower Futures should go through the roof in 3...2...1...

Posted by: garrett at June 24, 2010 10:28 AM (+1pUx)

49

"My consumption of ... Hannah Montana episodes ends today!"

Try and quit.  I dare you.

Posted by: Perez Hilton at June 24, 2010 10:29 AM (kC3nL)

50 The path to legal status -- http://tinyurl.com/27r5m7e. Go home, get in line

Posted by: Jean at June 24, 2010 10:29 AM (I6dJM)

51 Wow. This 2008-2009-2010 dream just keeps getting better and better.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at June 24, 2010 10:29 AM (tMCu7)

52 I guess Mickey and Minnie need new nannies, gardeners and busboys. In related news, Pluto and Goofy seen waiting for work in front of the Anaheim Home Depot.

Posted by: George Orwell at June 24, 2010 10:30 AM (AZGON)

53 The group includes several other big-city mayors

 

Which ones? the ones that can't manage their budgets? or the ones that pander to the unions? Or the ones that ignore the constitution and engage in spurious lawsuits against gun manufacturers? Or the one that outlawed doughnuts?

Posted by: Blue Hen at June 24, 2010 10:30 AM (R2fpr)

54 My question to Bloomberg is:

Why aren't you filling New York City's budget gap out of your own pocket?  You've got tens of billions and it's only a paltry $4 billion, or so.  You could close that for two years and not feel a thing.  You spent over $100 million just to buy the job.  You're the one who claims all these programs are so important and necessary.  Cough up a little ... for the kids.

I hate these hypocrites.  They are really the absolute lowest of the low.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at June 24, 2010 10:32 AM (Qp4DT)

55 when the tide comes in, everybody's boat rises

And what about the people who are buried in the sand from the neck down? What happens to them when the "tide" comes in? Remind me.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at June 24, 2010 10:32 AM (tMCu7)

56 Damn.  My S-I-L in Manhattan must be over the moon.  She's an advocate for "immigrant rights" (meaning illegal rights and quickie path to citizenship.)  She's also all about "Palestine".  Nitwit.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 24, 2010 10:32 AM (UOM48)

57 O/T:  If you live in the New York Metropolitan area you need to put on the news now....the weather is rapidly changing...tornado warning

Posted by: curious at June 24, 2010 10:32 AM (p302b)

58

Hey...if most of our entitlement funding goes to white people...but then we make a huge horde of Hispanics citizens...won't that make white people the minority...?

Shit, I'm so conflicted on this...

Posted by: Paul Kanjorksy at June 24, 2010 10:32 AM (kC3nL)

59 I'm just rock-hard certain these new immigrants will not be net consumers of government largesse. Nope. Not at all.

Posted by: George Orwell at June 24, 2010 10:32 AM (AZGON)

60

I blame the World Cup.

Soccer Fever has these guys scheming to get their hands on some better Soccer Players.

Posted by: garrett at June 24, 2010 10:32 AM (+1pUx)

61 Well, that tears it.  I don't need TV anymore.

Posted by: Truman North at June 24, 2010 10:32 AM (e8YaH)

62 How have the union bosses managed to sell amnesty to the rank and file?

Posted by: Jean at June 24, 2010 10:33 AM (I6dJM)

63 How have the union bosses managed to sell amnesty to the rank and file? We're handing out union cards at the border. Besides, the rank and file does what it is told.

Posted by: Your Friendly Neighborhood Union Goon at June 24, 2010 10:34 AM (AZGON)

64 I went news free yesterday afternoon and evening.  Actually read a book.  D'oh came home and joined me on the screened porch with a book and a couple of gin & tonics.  Nicest, most peaceful evening in ages.  Did worlds for my blood pressure.

Think I'll repeat the scenario this afternoon.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 24, 2010 10:35 AM (UOM48)

65

"THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN UPTON NY HAS ISSUED A

* SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING FOR... QUEENS COUNTY IN SOUTHEAST NEW YORK... WESTCHESTER COUNTY IN SOUTHEAST NEW YORK... PASSAIC COUNTY IN NORTHEAST NEW JERSEY... KINGS (BROOKLYN) COUNTY IN SOUTHEAST NEW YORK... NEW YORK (MANHATTAN) COUNTY IN SOUTHEAST NEW YORK... BRONX COUNTY IN SOUTHEAST NEW YORK... ROCKLAND COUNTY IN SOUTHEAST NEW YORK... NORTHERN UNION COUNTY IN NORTHEAST NEW JERSEY... ESSEX COUNTY IN NORTHEAST NEW JERSEY... BERGEN COUNTY IN NORTHEAST NEW JERSEY... HUDSON COUNTY IN NORTHEAST NEW JERSEY...

* UNTIL 245 PM EDT...

* AT 210 PM EDT...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DOPPLER RADAR INDICATED A LINE OF SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS CAPABLE OF PRODUCING DAMAGING WINDS IN EXCESS OF 60 MPH. THESE STORMS WERE LOCATED ALONG A LINE EXTENDING FROM RAMSEY TO SUMMIT...AND MOVING EAST AT 60 MPH.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 800 PM THURSDAY EVENING FOR SOUTHERN CONNECTICUT AND NORTHEAST NEW JERSEY AND SOUTHEAST NEW YORK."

Posted by: curious at June 24, 2010 10:36 AM (p302b)

66 Yea! We're officially the party of Big Business now!

Posted by: DNC at June 24, 2010 02:28 PM (gbCNS)


You lie! Genius Hank Johnson is going to spit troof on you.

Posted by: MFM zombie at June 24, 2010 10:36 AM (w9BEi)

67

"If you live in the New York Metropolitan area you need to put on the news now....the weather is rapidly changing...tornado warning"

Seriously.  Quit stealing our weather...  I actually kinda miss that kind of shit.  If nothing else, it meant I didn't have to water the yard for another day.

*sighs sadly at his sunny-and-100° solid five-day outlook*

Posted by: reason at June 24, 2010 10:36 AM (kC3nL)

68 Path to legal status: if you look like Salma Hayek, you're in. Otherwise apply through normal channels.

Posted by: Waterhouse at June 24, 2010 10:36 AM (pxrjp)

69 How have the union bosses managed to sell amnesty to the rank and file?

The same way the IRS "sells" income taxation?  Pay up or else!

Posted by: MikeO at June 24, 2010 10:36 AM (lBmZl)

70
Mayor Bloomberg, you are a Great American!

Posted by: Sean Hamheady at June 24, 2010 10:37 AM (Oxen1)

71 "THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN UPTON NY HAS ISSUED A... SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING FOR... NEW YORK (MANHATTAN) COUNTY IN SOUTHEAST NEW YORK... I was hoping for a meteor, but that's life.

Posted by: George Orwell at June 24, 2010 10:38 AM (AZGON)

72 Path to legal status: if you look like Salma Hayek,  <and you're female> you're in. Otherwise apply through normal channels.

Posted by: Waterhouse

FIFM

Posted by: Blue Hen at June 24, 2010 10:38 AM (R2fpr)

73 It looks really really really frightening out there....really frightening

Posted by: curious at June 24, 2010 10:38 AM (p302b)

74

I actually kinda miss that kind of shit.  If nothing else, it meant I didn't have to water the yard for another day.

We were about to go grocery shopping when a thunderstorm developed overhead. Decided to wait til it passed.

Still waiting 2 hours later! It's just sitting there...

Posted by: Mama AJ at June 24, 2010 10:39 AM (XdlcF)

75
Thank God for the rain to wash the trash off the sidewalk.

. . .

Someday a real rain will come and wash all this scum off the streets.

Posted by: Travis Bickle at June 24, 2010 10:39 AM (lBmZl)

76 If you fucking hicks would stop making babies, like the real white people who count have, we wouldn't have to import fifty million Mexicans to cancel out your yokel-ass kids' tea-tard votes. But nooooooooooo!

YOU MADE ME DO THIS!

Posted by: Whitey at June 24, 2010 10:39 AM (x7Ao8)

77

Posted by: Blue Hen at June 24, 2010 02:38 PM (R2fpr)

Nice work, Hen. 

"Trannies need not apply".

Posted by: garrett at June 24, 2010 10:40 AM (+1pUx)

78 Did this pack of goons really use the word amnesty? Lately they've been hiding behind 'enhanced border enforcement' and a 'path to citizenship'.

Posted by: Blue Hen at June 24, 2010 10:40 AM (R2fpr)

79

"How have the union bosses managed to sell amnesty to the rank and file?"

New recruits.

Wouldn't you want your seniority immediately cemented in place by about 10 million teamsters who joined after you?

Posted by: reason at June 24, 2010 10:41 AM (kC3nL)

80 Gateway Pundit is saying McChrystal banned Fox News from his headquarters.  Apparently he is a true, Obama-voting lib.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 24, 2010 10:41 AM (UOM48)

81 Hmmmm.

I get my news from online.  So my loyalty to FoxNews is .... non-existent.

So if FoxNews decides to carry the torch on this issue then as far as I'm concerned they can go fuck themselves.

Posted by: Da Gen McChrystal at June 24, 2010 10:41 AM (HGQC4)

82 Ace wants to boycott Fox News because News Corp. (It's parent company) is joining in a coalition to promote amnesty.

I think their nonstop pushing of McCain over all Republican comers was enough of a clue about where Fox News stands.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at June 24, 2010 10:42 AM (tMCu7)

83 I guess I should've prefaced the "stealing our weather" crack with a reminder that I am geographically rather similar to Dave in Texas.

Posted by: reason in texas at June 24, 2010 10:43 AM (kC3nL)

84

@ 74 Thanks, I caught up after I posted that in a rush.  Like I said (proudly), Moron.

Posted by: ATaLien at June 24, 2010 10:44 AM (SkRi5)

85 Bloomberg spokesman Jason Post said no money has been spent on the effort yet, and he could not say whether the group will be a standard nonprofit, a political action committee or a group known as a 501(c)4 nonprofit, which can operate outside the more strict limits governing political action committees. May never end up being for then a press release.

Posted by: Jean at June 24, 2010 10:44 AM (NYbDv)

86 Most big companies want immigration reform so they have more choice in who they can hire at lower wages.
Posted by: John at June 24, 2010 02:24 PM

Fixed.

Must be damn nice to have enough money to be isolated from the real world....

This is just one more nail in the USA's coffin. Between free access/benefits/voting status for illegals, lax border protection and Osama Obama sucking up to the Russians/Iranians,Muslims,  we are major-league screwed.

Murdoch gets viewers, the Democrats get voters, employers get slave labor, it's all good, right?

Posted by: MrScribbler at June 24, 2010 10:44 AM (Ulu3i)

87

Now this is some em-n-ef-n change now, Hoss! 

Shit o'mighty.  No need to consider seceding, under this piece of smelly, slimey feces administration, they'll just kick you out.

The end is near! 

At least it better be.  This country cannot put up with very much more of this shite!

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at June 24, 2010 10:45 AM (RkRxq)

88 Fox News is a terrible way to get news anyway.

It's just fucking awful.

Too flashy and treats me like I'm stupid.  I like Red Eye, but that's not exactly informative.  It's just fun.

Compared to CNN, Fox is like a private tutoring session with Aristotle, but compared to just reading good blogs and news aggregates online it doesn't measure up.

Posted by: Raisin Ninja at June 24, 2010 10:45 AM (dUOK+)

89
But who will buy all my terrific Factor gear?

Posted by: Bill O'Really at June 24, 2010 10:45 AM (Oxen1)

90 Uh oh.  "Sovereignty" sighting!  Barky just said "sovereignty" ... Chinese sovereignty ... of course.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at June 24, 2010 10:46 AM (Qp4DT)

91 Precedent Wee Wee is busy explaining why the US is sinking down to number 2, and further.  He's pretty quick on his feet, that one ...

Posted by: progressoverpeace at June 24, 2010 10:48 AM (Qp4DT)

92 curious, I turned on the Weather Channel to see what's happening in NYC, and of course they had the one millionth "It Could Happen Tomorrow" episode.  They suck so bad. 


Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 24, 2010 10:48 AM (UOM48)

93 So that's why McChrystal banned Fox News!

What a brilliant forward thinker we just lost!

Posted by: Raisin Ninja at June 24, 2010 10:48 AM (dUOK+)

94 Sinking down in number 2, as well, progress...

Posted by: reason in texas at June 24, 2010 10:49 AM (kC3nL)

95
Don't touch that dial! I've got a shocking live report from Aruba right after the break.

Posted by: Greta Van Ghoul at June 24, 2010 10:50 AM (Oxen1)

96 Sinking down in number 2, as well, progress...

Posted by: reason in texas at June 24, 2010 02:49 PM (kC3nL)

Heh.  Indeed.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at June 24, 2010 10:50 AM (Qp4DT)

97

I say we tear down all of the fences and all of the border crossings and just open the shit up.  Problem solved.

The damn country is circling the toilet anyway.  Stick the plunger in there and force it down the drain.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at June 24, 2010 10:51 AM (RkRxq)

98

Jane - yes.  TWC has become truly useless.  They force you to use their website if you want weather info (which I don't; I use AccuWeather).  And I think Dish Network noticed this problem.

Briefly - very briefly - Dish added in a new, alternate weather channel station that ran constant national rotation of weather info.  What TWC used to be back in 1990.

About a week later, it was gone, replaced with smooth jazz and a display announcing that Dish was working with TWC to provide a separate channel dedicated entirely to regional weather info.

Haven't seen anything since, though.  This was maybe a month ago...

Posted by: reason in texas at June 24, 2010 10:53 AM (kC3nL)

99

"Crap. Just went to Weather Underground to check the radar. I've seen red approach before, but this shit is bright purple and rotating. I have a feeling..."

Awww, crap, did they fuck this up AGAIN?

Posted by: Bill Ayers at June 24, 2010 10:54 AM (kC3nL)

100

The damn country is circling the toilet anyway.  Stick the plunger in there and force it down the drain.

I know, as a Plumber, this is not a new concept:

  If we pour additional Turds into the Bowl, the plunger fails us as an analogy for a solution.  We would need a big f'n snake with a cutter head.

Posted by: garrett at June 24, 2010 10:54 AM (+1pUx)

101

"If you want to solve the unemployment problem in America, you have to open the doors to immigrants who will come here, create businesses, because when the tide comes in, everybody's boat rises"

Adding more people isn't a good solution to aleviating a large pool of unemployed people.  It's true that immigrants create businesses.  But why would anyone expect immigrants who have come here illegally to be able to create a new business and employ others?

Why wouldn't they have immigrated legally then?

Additionally, I've found that many ethnic minorities, particularly the ones who don't want to learn English and live their lives using English, usually create jobs that cater exclusively to their ethnic group which builds a larger beach head for that non-assimilating culture to expand into a growing cultural problem.

Posted by: Speller at June 24, 2010 10:54 AM (o0R2E)

102 but compared to just reading good blogs and news aggregates online it doesn't measure up.

Posted by: Raisin Ninja at June 24, 2010 02:45 PM (dUOK+)

 

Um, where do you think that the news on the blogs comes from, well, besides "E"?

Posted by: Is Curious is on her way to see the Wizard Of Oz? at June 24, 2010 10:54 AM (sYrWB)

103

Did you see where Fed agencies are joining the AZ boycott, too?

http://tinyurl.com/27yb34o

O V E R

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at June 24, 2010 10:55 AM (RkRxq)

104 Funniest story of the day: Harry Reid's son, running for governor of Nevada, won't mention his last name in political ad: http://tinyurl.com/2cc3ey8

Posted by: FreakyBoy at June 24, 2010 10:56 AM (uKraB)

105

Ok... so... just how does an influx of low wage workers, help an economy that already has REAL 16%+ unemployment?

Or, are they using Obama Math... the kind where you can borrow your way out of debt?

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 24, 2010 10:56 AM (OlHjR)

106 Well, that was a rainy and windy five minutes.

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at June 24, 2010 10:57 AM (ZESU0)

107  If we pour additional Turds into the Bowl, the plunger fails us as an analogy for a solution.  We would need a big f'n snake with a cutter head.

Posted by: garrett at June 24, 2010 02:54 PM (+1pUx)

I defer to your expertise... but we're still gone.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at June 24, 2010 10:57 AM (RkRxq)

108 The cancellations by the Department of Education and the U.S. Border Patrol

My irony meter exploded.

Posted by: Waterhouse at June 24, 2010 10:58 AM (pxrjp)

109

Don't mind the bed-bugs...I'm in the apartment business and have had four cases of bed-bugs in the last year due to hispanics.  Never ever encountered this problem before in nearly twenty years...

Posted by: Hello this is the Orkin man, press 1 for englsh, two for Mexican at June 24, 2010 10:58 AM (sE08M)

110 @110 And what a dweeb that guy is too.  He looks like the sort of fellow who wears his underwear up around his armpits.

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at June 24, 2010 10:58 AM (ZESU0)

111

"I've seen red approach before, but this shit is bright purple and rotating. I have a feeling..."

I just watched the Tornado episode of Mr. Belvedere last night.  Apparently, what you need to do is bust out all your windows with a hat stand & then get in a fight with Bob Eubanks.

Posted by: Joanie (Oven Gloves) at June 24, 2010 10:58 AM (HaYO4)

112 this shit is bright purple and rotating.

Mega Robot Clinton is attacking New York!

Posted by: badly dubbed asian guy at June 24, 2010 10:58 AM (Oxen1)

113 Shit, I mean Bob Uecker.

Posted by: Joanie (Oven Gloves) at June 24, 2010 10:59 AM (HaYO4)

114

I only do New Install.

If I need a Drain Line cleaned, I call a Plumber. That's a Job, this American, won't do.

  Adjacent to Shit, is Shit. 

Posted by: garrett at June 24, 2010 11:00 AM (+1pUx)

115

Another good thing to opening the borders is that at least we don't get any minorities or defectives immigrating from Mexico.

Keeps the references to eugenics and accusations of racism to a minimum.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at June 24, 2010 11:00 AM (RkRxq)

116 Meh, my boycott of Fox News started the day they hired Geraldo.   

Posted by: John Galt at June 24, 2010 11:01 AM (F/4zf)

117

"He looks like the sort of fellow who wears his underwear up around his armpits."

On a good day they stay that low!  One day, the bully actually got the waistband up over my forehead.

Posted by: Rory R*** at June 24, 2010 11:01 AM (kC3nL)

118 "My problem here is that Murdoch's behind the scenes influence -- money, mostly -- probably carries a lot more weight than his viewers' opposition to this, even if his news channel is friendly to that opposition. And I don't really want him carrying the flag for this."

Oh I absolutely want him carrying the flag for this.  Maybe some Fox zombies out there will wake up and realize how truly fucked and deceived they are.

Posted by: the peanut gallery at June 24, 2010 11:01 AM (NurK6)

119 114 The cancellations by the Department of Education and the U.S. Border Patrol

My irony meter exploded.

Posted by: Waterhouse at June 24, 2010 02:58 PM (pxrjp)

Hey, Mexican drug gangs are threatening Law Enforcement in Ariz.

There are known permanent lookouts on the hills in Ariz.

Ariz. is the Kidnap capital of the world....

One part of the Ariz border is off limits to US Citizens...

Its dangerous down there, who in the heck would want to have a Convention in a place that dangerous?

Posted by: Janet Napioloitano at June 24, 2010 11:01 AM (OlHjR)

120 Re AccuWeather.com, that's where I go.  And I just went there and.....

They're predicting a possible tropical storm with the potential to push the oil slick into LA and the east Texas coast. 

By the way, what are Prez Puttz tee times next week?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 24, 2010 11:02 AM (UOM48)

121 Posted by: Jean at June 24, 2010 02:33 PM (I6dJM)

Have the sold it to them?

There are a lot of issues where the unions just don't care about rank and file opinion (look at political donations, union members aren't 90+ Dems but union contributions are).

All the bosses see is more members=more dues. They figure they'll deal with the rest later. Mostly by blaming every bad thing on Republicans.

Posted by: DrewM. at June 24, 2010 11:02 AM (X/Lqh)

122 So, Bloomberg and many of his Wallstreet and boardroom pals want a path to citizenship for fifteen million persons who have not had the slightest screening for, well, anything...No screening for skills, criminality, literacy, honesty, integrity, connections to gangs, terrorism, etc. ad nauseum!  Sounds like a plan!

Posted by: Lindsey Graham taking a break from fellating John McCain at June 24, 2010 11:03 AM (sE08M)

123

(whoops, forgot to remove the commas post edit!)

Ace -

Where's your Opus on Fake Industry and Green Economies going to be published?

Might I suggest the term 'Aggregate Arrogate Power' to describe Bambi's notion of Executive Power(s)?

 

Posted by: garrett at June 24, 2010 11:04 AM (+1pUx)

124 "The path to citizenship" is the hill Fox News is going to die on?  What's in this crapfest "immigration reform" for them tor risking lose so many right-leaning viewers that even Uberdouche's show has more viewers than them?

Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at June 24, 2010 11:04 AM (9hSKh)

125 I just cancelled my order for a 787.

Posted by: sherlock at June 24, 2010 11:05 AM (fKPuo)

126 Rory would be better off running as Rory Hussein.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at June 24, 2010 11:05 AM (tMCu7)

127

I'll boycott FOX News if they start censoring what their programs' hosts can say.

If you want to boycott Murdoch's business to express displeasure with a Left-liberal position, boycott FOX Entertainment.  The TV network is home to all sorts of Leftardedness, like the Seth MacFarlane animation block. 

Posted by: stuiec at June 24, 2010 11:06 AM (7AOgy)

128

"The path to citizenship" is the hill Fox News is going to die on?  What's in this crapfest "immigration reform" for them tor risking lose so many right-leaning viewers that even Uberdouche's show has more viewers than them?

Like the arrogant Wall Street Journal greedheads dismissing the hoi polloi during the "Comprehensive" POS of 2005, they really are out of touch.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 24, 2010 11:06 AM (ujg0T)

129 Fuck. Yet another boycott I can't take part in.

Posted by: The Dread Pirate Without a TV at June 24, 2010 03:03 PM (wOtDN)

Consider yourself a boycotter saved.

Posted by: Precedent Wee Wee, Nobel Laureate at June 24, 2010 11:07 AM (Qp4DT)

130

Well,

This is about all it will take. The Won will have the backing of these big corporations and will give him the cover to use executive order to make the illegals citizens..

A lot of folks here don't like to hear talk of leaving this mess but I think I will pay more attention starting now.

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at June 24, 2010 11:07 AM (twLQ1)

131 We're all for it. It's not like 12-34 million illegals are taking jobs that we'd do...

Posted by: 12-34 Million Unemployed Americans at June 24, 2010 11:08 AM (FcR7P)

132

Meh, my boycott of Fox News started the day they hired Geraldo.

My double super boycott began when they didn't fire him for what he said about Michelle Malkin.

Posted by: Mama AJ at June 24, 2010 11:09 AM (XdlcF)

133

The CDC should be excited...

Mumps, Measles, Rubella, TB, et al - all are no longer Diseases of the Past, but Diseases of the Future!

This should reduce our Health Care Costs and Insurance Premiums by 3000%!

Posted by: garrett at June 24, 2010 11:09 AM (+1pUx)

134 elections, consequences, yada, yada, yada.

It seeks to reframe immigration reform as the solution to repairing and stimulating the economy.

Ha, good one, states and cities going bankrupt and alot more social services to provide.  Yeah, that should get em rich, rich I say.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at June 24, 2010 11:10 AM (T0bhq)

135 I'm just boycotting the boycotts.

Posted by: David Buoy at June 24, 2010 11:10 AM (0QJjg)

136

"They're predicting a possible tropical storm with the potential to push the oil slick into LA and the east Texas coast."

Cleanup activities will give Kesha Rogers something productive to do with her life.

Posted by: reason at June 24, 2010 11:10 AM (kC3nL)

137 Hope you gringos don't mind...But, I only deal in cash...You will never get one thin peso from me in income taxes...But, failure to provide us bi-lingual teachers, doctors, nurses, cops, lawyers, judges, and SOCIAL WORKERS is Raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaacist!

Posted by: Typical illegal alien at June 24, 2010 11:10 AM (sE08M)

138 145 -- or the potential to mix it thoroughly in

Posted by: Jean at June 24, 2010 11:11 AM (mrrWn)

140 So now we see how Obama plans on staying on for another term.  I knew he was going for the amnesty thing, but it is interesting to see how it is going to be done.

I am surprised that GE is not on board.

Posted by: Rickshaw Jack at June 24, 2010 11:13 AM (bPkzf)

141 Who will be left in the shadows, now?

Posted by: garrett at June 24, 2010 11:13 AM (+1pUx)

142 #142: legendary

Posted by: the peanut gallery at June 24, 2010 11:13 AM (NurK6)

143 I was hoping for a meteor, but that's life.



I'm really disappointed in Uncle Facts. That summoner thing doesn't seem to be working for him.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 24, 2010 11:15 AM (Aqzx6)

144

The way to reduce unemployment is to increase the number of unemployed?

Huh?

Posted by: Hollowpoint at June 24, 2010 11:15 AM (plsiE)

145 140 Meh, my boycott of Fox News started the day they hired Geraldo.

My double super boycott began when they didn't fire him for what he said about Michelle Malkin.

EPIC

Posted by: Truman North at June 24, 2010 11:15 AM (e8YaH)

146 The thing I don't get is why in hell anyone would WANT to immigrate here anymore. Citizenship here automatically puts you and everyone in your family about 50 large in hock. Who needs it?

Posted by: rawmuse at June 24, 2010 11:16 AM (uBv4L)

147 Jill Biden's going to be on army wives?

Posted by: curious at June 24, 2010 11:16 AM (p302b)

148

I have much empatheé por dís.

¡Viva Obama!

Posted by: Justice Sotomayor at June 24, 2010 11:17 AM (+1pUx)

149

"They're predicting a possible tropical storm with the potential to push the oil slick into LA and the east Texas coast."

Yeh, I've been yelling at the computer a lot about the delays in dealing with this mess. "It's not like we get bad weather 'round these parts! No rush..."

Just wait till New Orleans is flooded...with oil.

Posted by: Mama AJ at June 24, 2010 11:17 AM (XdlcF)

150 The thing I don't get is why in hell anyone would WANT to immigrate here anymore.

Paved roads, and no malaria in the drinking water attract about 3/4 of the world to the US.

Posted by: Rickshaw Jack at June 24, 2010 11:18 AM (bPkzf)

151 17 HP and Disney are not hiring illegals. Maybe they'd like to see lower wages across the board or something, but don't beclown yourself implying that corporations that size want illegals here so they can exploit them.

Posted by: spongeworthy at June 24, 2010 02:21 PM (rplL3)

Why else would they want them? Of course they want the cheap labor!

Posted by: Jim in San Diego at June 24, 2010 11:19 AM (oIp16)

152 Oh, and if you do a search for "Partnership for a New American Economy" on the foxnews website, you get nothing.

rat bastards

Posted by: Rickshaw Jack at June 24, 2010 11:20 AM (bPkzf)

153

 

Poncho: Major, you'd better take a look at this.
Dutch: Did you find Hawkins?
Poncho: I... I can't tell.

Posted by: Poncho at June 24, 2010 11:22 AM (vo+x6)

Posted by: curious at June 24, 2010 11:22 AM (p302b)

155

Fuck Bloomberg and his fellow leftard asswwipes. They don't have any influence over the people who watch Fox news. and I hope he lists all the corporations who are behind him, so we can boycott their asses. That knife cuts both ways.

Bloomberg is a shithead's shithead, And so is Daley.

*SPIT*

Posted by: maddogg at June 24, 2010 11:22 AM (OlN4e)

156
I don't get is why in hell anyone would WANT to immigrate here anymore.


A government that showers them with dollars like a cracked out lottery winner in a strip club?

Posted by: Atomic Roach at June 24, 2010 11:22 AM (Oxen1)

157

I know, as a Plumber

I need my drain snaked. Waddya charge?

Posted by: laceyunderalls at June 24, 2010 11:23 AM (pLTLS)

158

The last straw for me and FOX News. O'reilley and Jeraldo were the beginning of the end. What's Beck going to do?  Get most of news from internet anyway....not FOX, but I'm not going to give up Fox Sports Southwest...yet!

Damn that Murdoch and his libtard cronies!

Posted by: tomshup at June 24, 2010 11:24 AM (rns8t)

159 You'll work for nothing and like it!!

Posted by: Judge Smails at June 24, 2010 11:24 AM (IFV43)

160 OT, but why hasn't anyone called out the raaacist MFM for not going after the pasty white (alleged) rapist Algore with the same vigor they had with Kobe Bryant and the first black-black President?

Posted by: Blackford Oakes at June 24, 2010 11:24 AM (w9BEi)

161 I'm beginning to think you can catch being a sex addict.

Posted by: curious at June 24, 2010 11:25 AM (p302b)

162 Boycott? Sure, I can do that. Gives me more time to work and read AoSHQ, but mostly read AoSHQ.

Ace: "My problem here is that Murdoch's behind the scenes influence -- money, mostly -- probably carries a lot more weight than his viewers' opposition to this..."

Also, what kind of pressure does it put on staff, especially lower level producers, to know that your boss is cold to your advancing illegal alien news? Sure, Beck might have the pull and the balls to keep up reporting, but anyone else? Even O'Reilly, who talks a big game, will yield to Murdoch's preferences.

These lowest-common-denominator seeking employers tossing aside lawful immigration policy are asking for trouble. Maybe legal Americans should give it to them.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at June 24, 2010 11:25 AM (swuwV)

163

"Jill Biden's going to be on army wives?"

Leave it to a Biden to successfully out-stupid the news that Bristol Palin will be doing a cameo on "Secret Life."

Posted by: reason at June 24, 2010 11:26 AM (1R6cr)

164

 

Dutch: Hey Billy, give me a way out of this hole. Aerial says we are cut off.
Billy: The only way outta here is that valley that leads to the east. But I wouldn't wish that on a broke-dick dog.
Dutch: Not much choice.

Posted by: Dutch at June 24, 2010 11:26 AM (vo+x6)

Posted by: rdbrewer at June 24, 2010 11:27 AM (8Urru)

166 Did el tigre ever shake hands with the bore?

Posted by: curious at June 24, 2010 11:28 AM (p302b)

167 NEWS FLASH: Curious was last sighted waving bye bye somewhere over Kansas!

Posted by: President Wee Wee? How about President Doo Doo Head? at June 24, 2010 11:28 AM (sYrWB)

168

"I need my drain snaked. Waddya charge?"

ONT ain't for another couple hours, sweet-cheeks.

Posted by: reason at June 24, 2010 11:28 AM (1R6cr)

169 And if Murdoch wants to join them, then fuck him too. I thought he had more sense than that. I guess he is tired of being on top.

Posted by: maddogg at June 24, 2010 11:29 AM (OlN4e)

170 "179 NEWS FLASH: Curious was last sighted waving bye bye somewhere over Kansas!

Posted by: President Wee Wee? How about President Doo Doo Head? at June 24, 2010 03:28 PM (sYrWB)"

I don't usually drink at lunch and I don't eat breakfast so it was a little interesting there for a while..

Posted by: curious at June 24, 2010 11:29 AM (p302b)

171

Bring Your Family. 

Uncle Pedro, Tía María.

¡Vamanos!

 All are welcome to be in our Country, with their Families.

Out of the Shadows

Selling Oranges.

(not) Paying Taxes.

Voting Democrat.

¡Vamanos!

Posted by: Ode to the Immigration Act of 1965 at June 24, 2010 11:29 AM (+1pUx)

172 Jill Biden's going to be on army wives?

Posted by: curious

So.  A political creature that I cannot stand (she's as bad as him) will be on a prgram I've never watched, which is on a channel I avoid like the plague (Lifetime! watch our psycho husband/significant other of the week!).

 

A Trifecta of rejection on my part.

Posted by: Blue Hen at June 24, 2010 11:30 AM (R2fpr)

173 @Jane D'oh

Try muddling 1/2 a lime in the bottom of the glass. It releases the oils from the jest and makes the drink fantastic.

Posted by: NJConservative at June 24, 2010 11:30 AM (LH6ir)

174 #66 @Jane D'oh

Try muddling 1/2 a lime in the bottom of the glass. It releases the oils from the jest and makes the drink fantastic.

Posted by: NJConservative at June 24, 2010 11:31 AM (LH6ir)

175 OT

Looks like Obumbles BFF Hugo is nationalizing some US oil rigs.

tinyurl.com/385mw59

Posted by: Rickshaw Jack at June 24, 2010 11:31 AM (bPkzf)

176 Fox News? Would that be the network of such hideous wastes of oxygen and food as Whimperin' Shep (dogs are named "Shep," not humans) Smith, Sean "the Great American" Hannity, whiner supreme and last refuge of otherwise irrelevant zombies from the world of politics, Greta "I'd be Nobody if it Wasn't for Murderers with Attractive Victims" Van Sustern and of course Gerry Rivers?

And let's not leave out Bill "Looking out For Myself" O'Reilly....

The only one there with sense seems to be Glenn Beck, and even he is sounding more like Howard Beale every day.

Can't decide about Megyn Kelly. Keep getting distracted by those legs....

As Fox continues down the path of mediocrity with its shrill, language-mangling hosts, the boycott will take care of itself.

Prissy Chrissy Matthews and the rest of the loons at MSDNC aren't improving -- Fox is digging its way down to their level.

Posted by: MrScribbler at June 24, 2010 11:31 AM (Ulu3i)

177

"Even O'Reilly, who talks a big game, will yield to Murdoch's preferences."

I'm just lookin' out for the folks!  It ain't my fault that "the folks" demographic has shifted significantly.  Ole!

Posted by: Senor O'Reilly at June 24, 2010 11:32 AM (1R6cr)

178

 need my drain snaked. Waddya charge?

$2.00 per Job.

I work on a straight fee. 

None of that hourly crap.  I stay till the job is done. 

No poking and prodding for 4-5 minutes and then billing for the whole hour.

100% Satisfaction Guarantee, or your next Job is free!

Posted by: garrett at June 24, 2010 11:34 AM (+1pUx)

179

Wander into the IS portion of most large firms, and see how many delightful green-card-holding people of Indian and Pakistani origin you meet, taking advantage of the many opportunities available in this country for people willing to for much less than those US born & educated types expect. And, sink my putt, for a coincidence most of the 'comprehensive' immigration plans blow the lid off of green card restrictions. Can't fault the people making the trip in the hopes of a better life, but does it make any sense to import people to work jobs out-of-work professionals in this country could do? Only when the government types that set the quotas rely on the business bigwigs for that sweet, sweet campaign cash. Both parties are in this travesty up to their necks.

 

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at June 24, 2010 11:34 AM (ERJIu)

180

Why else would they want them? Of course they want the cheap labor!

Couldn't tell you. Once they're no longer illegal they're not cheap labor any more, are they?

Posted by: spongeworthy at June 24, 2010 11:35 AM (rplL3)

181
passing amnesty gives democrat majorities for at least a generation if not forever

passing amnesty puts the chair against the wall

passing amnesty gives John a long mustache

Posted by: MikeO at June 24, 2010 11:36 AM (lBmZl)

182

"Greta "I'd be Nobody if it Wasn't for Murderers with Attractive Victims" Van Sustern"

To this day, I seethe with jealousy that she somehow pulls 2x the viewers for the same damn schtick!

Posted by: Nancy Grace at June 24, 2010 11:36 AM (1R6cr)

183

See, now, I don't want to boycott anybody over that kind of thing. Maybe sew is mouth shut with rusty bailing wire and dump him out of a moving vehicle, but not boycott.

Well, there will always be assholes. I get more annoyed at those who enable. Like Fox and The Atlantic, for starters.

Which is not to say I think you are wrong.

Posted by: Mama AJ at June 24, 2010 11:37 AM (XdlcF)

184 195 passing amnesty gives democrat majorities for at least a generation if not forever passing amnesty puts the chair against the wall passing amnesty gives John a long mustache Posted by: MikeO at June 24, 2010 03:36 PM (lBmZl) The long sobs of the violins fill my heart with a monotonous langour. I repeat...

Posted by: BBC, circa 1943 at June 24, 2010 11:37 AM (RD7QR)

185  "Jill Biden to Guest Star On "Army Wives"

Posted by: curious at June 24, 2010 03:22 PM (p302b)

The wife of a 5 time draft dodger on a show called Army wives? Will Jane Fonda also be in that episode?

Posted by: robtr at June 24, 2010 11:38 AM (fwSHf)

186

Posted by: Nancy Grace at June 24, 2010 03:36 PM (1R6cr)

Stop whining about Dead Babies and get with the Cute White Victim meme!

Posted by: Greta at June 24, 2010 11:38 AM (+1pUx)

Posted by: WalrusRex at June 24, 2010 11:38 AM (xxgag)

188

195

D-DAY

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at June 24, 2010 11:39 AM (twLQ1)

189 I'd be prepared to have Juliet Huddy try to convince me not to boycott Fox News. While sitting on my lap.

Posted by: Waterhouse at June 24, 2010 11:39 AM (pxrjp)

190 The long sobs of the violins fill my heart with a monotonous langour. I repeat...

Posted by: BBC, circa 1943 at June 24, 2010 03:37 PM (RD7QR)

East winds, rain.

Posted by: Imperial Japanese Government circa 1941 at June 24, 2010 11:39 AM (ERJIu)

191 If you want to boycott Murdoch's business to express displeasure with a Left-liberal position, boycott FOX Entertainment.  The TV network is home to all sorts of Leftardedness, like the Seth MacFarlane animation block.

+100

Think Murdoch lets Ailes do what makes money for him with FNC.

Posted by: Blackford Oakes at June 24, 2010 11:39 AM (w9BEi)

192

Illegals "do the jobs Americans won't do." So when we make illegals into Americans we will need another fifteen million, or whatever, illegals to do their old jobs.  Right?   

Posted by: Beagle at June 24, 2010 11:39 AM (sOtz/)

193 This goes beyond cheap labor, and into market size. Any company that owns the market in USA wants more people. what better way to get steady revenue growth than to increase population. The companies listed all dominate respective US markets.

You see, we are serfs, and they are our betters.
Their first mistake was freedom of speech. Their second mistake,....

Posted by: nine coconuts at June 24, 2010 11:40 AM (DHNp4)

194

I tried to mix it up and went with the Cute White Babykiller Party-Wench.

Why the hell didn't that draw in the mouthbreathers?

Posted by: Nancy Grace at June 24, 2010 11:40 AM (1R6cr)

195

...., and oh, in case you missed it the first three times, here it is again one more time:

#66 @Jane D'oh

Try muddling 1/2 a lime in the bottom of the glass. It releases the oils from the jest and makes the drink fantastic.

Posted by: President Wee Wee? How about President Doo Doo Head? at June 24, 2010 11:40 AM (sYrWB)

196 Is Rupert Murdoch, chairman and CEO of News Corp, a US Citizen?

If not, then his involvement in the US political process raises some questions.

In any event, boycotting Rupert's advertisers, or at least sending them the message, might get Rupert Murdoch, chairman and CEO of News Corp, to fix his attitude.

Posted by: Arbalest at June 24, 2010 11:41 AM (nP/tp)

197 I don't get is why in hell anyone would WANT to immigrate here anymore.

No lie - I know a dozen immigrants on SSI disability.

Posted by: nine coconuts at June 24, 2010 11:43 AM (DHNp4)

198 Why are these people always trying to screw us? California is going down the drain because of all the money they have spent on illegals. Recatagorizing them as legal is not going to make the economy better.

Posted by: moi at June 24, 2010 11:43 AM (bjYAr)

199 7 The group includes several other big-city mayors and calls itself the Partnership for a New American Economy.Partnership to Keep Democrats in Power.

Fixed it for them.

Needed a further fix.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at June 24, 2010 11:43 AM (eNxMU)

200 BOMBSHELL!

Fuck all this  Have you guys seen on Drudge that Obama knew about the BLAGO seat for sale and obviously didn't say anything?

http://tinyurl.com/32826vw


Posted by: MelodicMetal at June 24, 2010 11:45 AM (x4S2a)

201 Jane - yes.  TWC has become truly useless.  They force you to use their website if you want weather info (which I don't; I use AccuWeather).

TWC was bought by NBC and merged with MSNBC/NBC News about a year ago.  Dish balked after they infamously ran a movie instead of live coverage of a Midwest tornado outbreak a few months ago and then demanded more money from cable and satellite providers.  (DirecTV already has a button on their HD DVRs that overlays TWC with live weather data from the Internet).

Posted by: Ian S. at June 24, 2010 11:45 AM (p05LM)

202 Why no love for Shannon Bream?  She's by far the best reason to watch FNC, and a legit conservative too I'd wager.

Posted by: the peanut gallery at June 24, 2010 11:45 AM (NurK6)

203
Amnesty for illegals is blatant ballot-box stuffing.

If these fuckers take the ballot box away, then what options are left?


Posted by: MikeO at June 24, 2010 11:45 AM (lBmZl)

204 "70 Path to legal status: if you look like Salma Hayek, you're in. Otherwise apply through normal channels." Funny you should mention this. I vaguely remember Ace really going to bat on behalf of some poor Brazilian super model they were trying to deport.

Posted by: moi at June 24, 2010 11:45 AM (bjYAr)

206

Somewhat topical....

A decent lawsuit.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at June 24, 2010 11:46 AM (pLTLS)

207 I can't wait for Sarah to use "the chair is agains't the wall" in a tweet.

Posted by: Jean at June 24, 2010 11:47 AM (fQbcU)

208

 OT:  We're going to need a bigger boat.

Someone need a favah?

Posted by: Orca Brasi at June 24, 2010 11:47 AM (8Urru)

210 You see, Airbus bribes governments of the world to buy their planes, China, UAE, Morocco, etc.

Boeing has a better plan - Those governments don't need no stinking Airbus planes if all the people move to USA where Boeing has the congress bought and paid for.

Posted by: nine coconuts at June 24, 2010 11:48 AM (DHNp4)

211

If these fuckers take the ballot box away, then what options are left?

The ammo box.

Posted by: maddogg at June 24, 2010 11:48 AM (OlN4e)

212

I just saw bloomberg talking about the contributions of immigrants.

That really pisses me off.  The intellectual dishonesty.  No one ever had a problem with immigrants.  That was never the issue. 

Posted by: Orca Brasi at June 24, 2010 11:49 AM (8Urru)

213

crap. linkfail.

take 2

 

 

Posted by: laceyunderalls at June 24, 2010 11:49 AM (pLTLS)

214 Arbalest: He was naturalized in advance of buying a number of media outlets.  You have to be an American to own over a certain number of media outlets in America.

Posted by: Truman North at June 24, 2010 11:49 AM (e8YaH)

215

I can't wait for Sarah to use "the chair is agains't the wall" in a tweet.

I'll try to work it in, honey.

Posted by: Sarah Jessica Parker at June 24, 2010 11:50 AM (+1pUx)

216 The Dread Pirate Proportional Response: "Fox News staff gives a larger percentage to (D) than ABC News, and only slightly less than NBC."

I had no idea. I know they aren't the conservative bastion they're portrayed to be, but that's a stunning revelation. Consider my rose colored glasses recalibrated.

And Gerry Rivers can go fark himself, which is even worse than doing uncolorful things with the Barbed Cock of Satan™.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at June 24, 2010 11:50 AM (swuwV)

217

If these fuckers take the ballot box away, then what options are left?

The ammo box.

Not surprisingly, Bloomberg is a gungrabber, too.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 24, 2010 11:51 AM (ujg0T)

Posted by: curious at June 24, 2010 11:51 AM (p302b)

219 Correction: The long sobs of autumn's violins wound my heart with a monotonous languor. Sorry about that, you French resistance chaps.

Posted by: BBC, circa 1943 at June 24, 2010 11:51 AM (RD7QR)

220

crap. linkfail.

Worked for me.

Posted by: garrett at June 24, 2010 11:51 AM (+1pUx)

221 Not surprisingly, Bloomberg is a gungrabber, too.

It is all of a piece.

Posted by: MikeO at June 24, 2010 11:52 AM (lBmZl)

222 Ainsley Earhardt. mmm mmm mmm Who gives a shit if she's a Republican or not?

Posted by: Call me shallow. I watch FOX for the news babes at June 24, 2010 11:52 AM (sYrWB)

223 Obviously the folks at Disney have no worries about the oil spill do they?

Posted by: curious at June 24, 2010 11:53 AM (p302b)

224 How does this help???  Are we bringing them here so we can eat them?

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at June 24, 2010 11:53 AM (IqfKc)

225 Boeing wants illegal aliens?  I can't wait to fly on the first airliner assembled entirely with weedwackers.

Posted by: Cicero at June 24, 2010 11:54 AM (QKKT0)

226 "No one ever had a problem with immigrants.  That was never the issue."

Jesus, the political correctness is killing me.  If you have no problem with immigrants, then how could you possibly have any objection to mass unfettered immigration?

Posted by: the peanut gallery at June 24, 2010 11:54 AM (NurK6)

227 "Welcome to a World of Privilege and Access"...

(and huge fucking walls and armed guards to keep the undesirables out)

Posted by: the peanut gallery at June 24, 2010 11:57 AM (NurK6)

228 Boeing wants illegal aliens?  I can't wait to fly on the first airliner assembled entirely with weedwackers.

Posted by: Cicero

I must protest at this blatant and demeaning stereotyping. These airliners will be comprised not merely of weedwhackers, but the finest roofing shingles and concrete.

Posted by: The undocumented Trade Council at June 24, 2010 11:57 AM (R2fpr)

229 244 Boeing wants illegal aliens?  I can't wait to fly on the first airliner assembled entirely with weedwackers.

Posted by: Cicero at June 24, 2010 03:54 PM (QKKT0)

THREAD WINNER

Posted by: Truman North at June 24, 2010 11:58 AM (e8YaH)

230 blago has great hair..

Posted by: curious at June 24, 2010 11:59 AM (p302b)

231 I'll boycott FOX News if they start censoring what their programs' hosts can say.

I thought that already happened with their "tick a lock" on anything anti-Islam.

Posted by: Lady in Black at June 24, 2010 11:59 AM (TtHJm)

232

Need more popcorn. Lots more popcorn.

You've got all the popcorn you need but good luck finding coverage of this besides Chicago outlets. The MFM is completely allergic to this story. But MSNBC and CNN would surely be live tweeting this or some shit if this was Bush.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at June 24, 2010 11:59 AM (pLTLS)

233 231

I can't wait for Sarah to use "the chair is agains't the wall" in a tweet.

I'll try to work it in, honey.

Posted by: Sarah Jessica Parker at June 24, 2010 03:50 PM (+1pUx)

 

Isn't that in The Kama Sutra?

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 24, 2010 11:59 AM (OlHjR)

234

"...a path to legal status for all undocumented immigrants..."?

Geez - didn't these guys at the LA TImes get the memo about how the whole point of using the term "undocumented immigrant" was to gloss over the part about these folks being law-breakers? Next thing you know, they'll admit to the term "immgrant" being inaccurate and presumptuous.  Maybe once the Mexican takeover of LA is complete, their uber-"educated" self-proclaimed elits will start using the correct term, "illegal alien" - and brag about it.

Posted by: Optimizer at June 24, 2010 12:00 PM (acVo8)

235

No one ever had a problem with immigrants. That was never the issue.

Then what is the issue? Here's my guess: There are a lot of people in the country illegally, and practically all of them are going to stay here, legally or not.

The prevalent solution is the status quo; do nothing. Unfortunately, that doesn't really work. The next biggest solution involves securing the borders and deporting illegal aliens. It sounds great, but that doesn't really work either.

I don't know what exactly Bloomberg plans -- but it has to be better than option 1 or option 2.

Posted by: FireHorse at June 24, 2010 12:01 PM (cQyWA)

236 RE: Call me shallow. I watch FOX

I understand the innertube thingy shows porn, so you really aren't testing the depths of your shallowness. You can still dump FOX and not miss a thing. So I'm told.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at June 24, 2010 12:02 PM (swuwV)

237

The prevalent solution is the status quo; do nothing. Unfortunately, that doesn't really work. The next biggest solution involves securing the borders and deporting illegal aliens. It sounds great, but that doesn't really work either.

I don't know what exactly Bloomberg plans -- but it has to be better than option 1 or option 2.

Posted by: FireHorse at June 24, 2010 04:01 PM (cQyWA)

Nice facility with the straw man argument.  You should check with the Comrade Zero Administration for employment opportunities.

Posted by: Cicero at June 24, 2010 12:04 PM (QKKT0)

238 I don't even have cable and most of the time I have no idea what you all are talking about. All I know is whenever someone wants to boycott something, I am agin' it.

Posted by: rawmuse at June 24, 2010 12:04 PM (uBv4L)

239

 Are we bringing them here so we can eat them?

Soylent Brown?

Posted by: 48%er at June 24, 2010 12:05 PM (OThQg)

240

Perhaps this is why Obama was doing the Santa Anna Squat on the Louisiana Shore?

 

Posted by: garrett at June 24, 2010 12:05 PM (+1pUx)

241 Boeing wants illegal aliens?  I can't wait to fly on the first airliner assembled entirely with weedwackers.

Posted by: Cicero at June 24, 2010 03:54 PM (QKKT0)

THREAD WINNER

Posted by: Truman North

 

Oh sure, reward the stereotyper.

Posted by: The undocumented Trade Council at June 24, 2010 12:05 PM (R2fpr)

242 235 O/T:  WTR:  "Welcome to a World of Privilege and Access"

Don't give her any ideas...

Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at June 24, 2010 12:06 PM (XWkmI)

243 "The next biggest solution involves securing the borders and deporting illegal aliens. It sounds great, but that doesn't really work either."

Worked under Eisenhower.  I don't see any non-political reason why it wouldn't work today.

Posted by: the peanut gallery at June 24, 2010 12:06 PM (NurK6)

244 The Boycott is a bad idea , I think. Boycotts only make publicity and this kind of publicity is unlikely to have any effect on Murdoch -- he will only take a self righteous pose of calling the boycotters  racist.

What we need is data showing that what these guys are saying is all BS. Mark Kirkorian does a lot of work in this area and he needs whatever support we can give him.

I would like to see how many immigrants go on disability once they are eligible. How many fly home regularly on Boeing planes? How much will this increase demand for hp medical devices? This is the data that counteracts their BS.

The line always used in the WSJ is that they create jobs and are good citizens, etc. but most restrictionists have little or no problem with allowing highly educated job creators immigrate.We have problems with open borders, out of control, anchor baby, soon to be on the dole immigrants. 

Posted by: nine coconuts at June 24, 2010 12:06 PM (DHNp4)

245 These idiot are about to push us into open warfare. They'd all better find a very high luxury condo to hide their rich asses in.

Posted by: rplat at June 24, 2010 12:07 PM (4vq8i)

246 The Dread Pirate Proportional Response@243,

Thanks for the link. Just a slight disparity there.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at June 24, 2010 12:10 PM (swuwV)

247 O/T:  Judge Faces Death Threats After Oil Drilling Moratorium Ruling.

"Last night, Feldman served as a celebrity judge at a cooking contest at a school gymnasium in Uptown New Orleans. Due to the threats, Feldman was accompanied by a federal marshal security team.

"It is a sad indictment of our society today that a judge with such a sterling record of integrity and service to his country would be subject to such threats. Feldman was appointed to the federal bench by President Reagan in 1983. Today, he is in the eye of a political hurricane unlike anything he has ever experienced.

"Much of the sensational reporting on FeldmanÂ’s investments was based on outdated information. The Judge was blasted for owning stock in Transocean, Ltd and Halliburton, two of the major companies involved in the Deepwater Horizon disaster. Feldman owned those stocks in 2008; however, he sold those shares long before issuing his ruling this week. In fact, this updated information will be released in the next report on his stock holdings.


"If Feldman held financial interests in any of companies involved in the lawsuit or the Deepwater Horizon rig, he would not have been allowed the take the case. The 5th District Court uses a sophisticated computer system to check whether judges have a conflict of interest in any legal proceeding. This system automatically determines whether a judge needs to be recused from a particular case. In this lawsuit, Feldman was allowed to take the case because he did not own any stock related to the parties involved."

Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at June 24, 2010 12:10 PM (XWkmI)

248 Best answer I've ever heard to these type proposals is "path to citizenship for folks already here ONLY AFTER we have a SECURE border" so we are not inviting a big influx of new aliens. If people are not comfortable with rounding up and ousting people fine but secure the border so we stop getting more and more new aliens and its ridiculous to talk about amnesty programs until that step is in place.

Posted by: PaleRider at June 24, 2010 12:11 PM (dkExz)

249 OT, kinda:

CARACAS (Reuters) – Venezuela will nationalize a fleet of oil rigs belonging to U.S. company Helmerich and Payne, the latest takeover in a push to socialism as President Hugo Chavez struggles with lower oil output and a recession.

And they get to keep the $2 billion we promised them - not "us", of course, but the Traitor-in-Chief.

Is it "giving aid and comfort to the enemy", yet? Can we add this to the long, long articles of impeachment already gathered? Why not.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at June 24, 2010 12:12 PM (Qp4DT)

250

34 million here already, Pale Rider.  That tilts the demographics permanently toward Marxism. 

If you want to live with people who have created Mexico, then there is already a few dozen places in the world you can do it.  As for me, I prefer to live with people who have created America.

Posted by: Truman North at June 24, 2010 12:14 PM (e8YaH)

251 I think our uniforms in the next civil war should be denim. Maybe in a nice neutral faded blue/grey with red piping and a white kerchief. Kinda like the old cavalry uniforms.

Posted by: sifty at June 24, 2010 12:14 PM (JR2D9)

Posted by: Garbonzo the Garrulous at June 24, 2010 12:14 PM (N/7an)

253 Wow...if its true, then goodbye fox news. Seriously...Beck is gonna flip the fuck out.

Posted by: lowfibass at June 24, 2010 12:15 PM (T1ZAZ)

254

BREAKING: ‘Green’ Energy Company Threatens Economics Professor … with Package of Dismantled Bomb Parts

"Hey we saw your articles saying green jobs cost 2.2 regular jobs and don't actually create any new ones. Please accept these bomb parts and be happy we didn't assemble them first."

Posted by: Truman North at June 24, 2010 12:15 PM (e8YaH)

255 Is the solution set so hard? 1) a simple verification system for SSN - type in #, Name, place of Birth - get a code if good to scribble on the I-9 and require an employer retain a photocopy of the ID used to complete the I-9; 2) a functional guest worker program for the bottom tier of the labor market - franchised so that bonded employment agencies are responsible for their laborers; 3) focus border security on areas where it is easy to cross, esp with quantities of drugs; 4) no federal highway money for any state that has sanctuary cities - clear that shit up quick; and finally 5) incorporate immigration checks into all NCIC/NLETS checks -- esp. those done on release from custody.

Posted by: Jean at June 24, 2010 12:15 PM (Yp0Ox)

256 I wonder just how many people really are squeamish about rounding up and deporting illegals, it's probably a lower number than conventional wisdom would have us believe.

Posted by: KG at June 24, 2010 12:16 PM (S8TF5)

257 276 Wow...if its true, then goodbye fox news. Seriously...Beck is gonna flip the fuck out.

Posted by: lowfibass at June 24, 2010 04:15 PM (T1ZAZ)

If he does not publicly do so in the next few days, I'll disown the MoFo.

Posted by: Jim in San Diego at June 24, 2010 12:16 PM (oIp16)

258 Isn't NY a sanctuary city.

As far as fox news is concerned they say..."as long as you hire me I can be anything you want.   You want conservative?  I can be conservative.   You want liberal?  I can be liberal.  You want moderate?  I can be moderate....

For money, I can be anything...

Posted by: curious at June 24, 2010 12:16 PM (p302b)

259

The next biggest solution involves securing the borders and deporting illegal aliens. It sounds great, but that doesn't really work either.

Posted by: FireHorse at June 24, 2010 04:01 PM (cQyWA)

 

If this is truly the case, then why would anyone believe for an instant that illegal aliens would suddenly choose to start paying taxes and become citizens? Some may, but we're being told that no legal remedy exists today. How will one magically exist tomorrow?

Posted by: The undocumented Trade Council at June 24, 2010 12:16 PM (R2fpr)

260 Garbonzo, I'm going to come over to your house and re-arrange your furniture.  And if you scoop me like that again, it won't just be your furniture I re-arrange!

Posted by: Truman North at June 24, 2010 12:17 PM (e8YaH)

261 But *I* am not saying "let them stay" I am saying "we cannot even talk about letting anyone stay until we secure the border" That argument should be clear and convincing to most of the public including a large group of softies who may not feel comfortable talking about expulsions and so on.

Posted by: PaleRider at June 24, 2010 12:18 PM (dkExz)

262 RE: Judge Faces Death Threats After Oil Drilling Moratorium Ruling

Yeah, I've instructed my office to be prepared to expedite the prosecution as soon as those responsible for the threats are charged. We'll pencil in the dates to be immediately after we prosecute the Black Panthers who intimidated voters at the voting booth.

Posted by: Eric Holder, Defender of Anti-Overseas Contingency Operatives at June 24, 2010 12:18 PM (swuwV)

263

>> Amazing how if you use enough weasel words you can defend any piece of nonsense.

Fine. I'll copy and paste and edit, for you:

Securing the borders and deporting illegal aliens doesn't work at all. As a practical policy, it is an absolute failure.

Better?

Posted by: FireHorse at June 24, 2010 12:19 PM (cQyWA)

264 En fuego!

Posted by: I miss The Guy That Yells En Fuego! at June 24, 2010 12:20 PM (gbCNS)

265 And we just take your word for it FireHorse? No thanks.

Posted by: KG at June 24, 2010 12:20 PM (S8TF5)

266

If this is truly the case, then why would anyone believe for an instant that illegal aliens would suddenly choose to start paying taxes and become citizens?

Because immigration laws aren't taken seriously by the government.

Tax laws are.

Posted by: FireHorse at June 24, 2010 12:21 PM (cQyWA)

267

You know what would go a long way to healing our economy? Paying down the national debt. You know a good way to pay down the national debt? A wealth tax. Let's say, 100% of all assets over $2 million should help pay the debt and shore up Social Security and Medicare. Those assholes can lobby for cheaper pool boys and gardeners when unemployment is at 10%. We can lobby to have their wealth confiscated.

We really are in a situation where most of the extremely wealthy are conspiring with a good chunk of the poor to destroy the middle class.

Posted by: SteveN at June 24, 2010 12:22 PM (7EV/g)

268 Wheeee!11!11!!1 Start spreading the news, IÂ’m leaving today I want to be a part of it - new york, new york These vagabond shoes, are longing to stray Right through the very heart of it - new york, new york I wanna wake up in a city, that doesnÂ’t sleep And find IÂ’m king of the hill - top of the heap These little town blues, are melting away IÂ’ll make a brand new start of it - in old new york If I can make it there, IÂ’ll make it anywhere ItÂ’s up to you - new york, new york

Posted by: Star Spangled Beaner the anchor baby at June 24, 2010 12:22 PM (w9bVp)

269

Deportation works!

Some 750 agents targeted agricultural areas with a goal of 1000 apprehensions per day. By the end of July, over 50,000 immigrants were caught in the two states. An estimated 488,000 illegal immigrants are claimed to have left voluntarily, for fear of being apprehended.

Can we kill that lie that deportation "does not work", because it most certainly does, when it's allowed to work.

http://bit.ly/Ix9Z5

Bill Chambers, who worked for a combined 33 years for the Border Patrol and the then-called US Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS), says politically powerful people are still fueling the flow of illegals.

During the 1950s, however, this "Good Old Boy" system changed under Eisenhower – if only for about 10 years.

In 1954, Ike appointed retired Gen. Joseph "Jumpin' Joe" Swing, a former West Point classmate and veteran of the 101st Airborne, as the new INS commissioner.

Influential politicians, including Sen. Lyndon B. Johnson (D) of Texas and Sen. Pat McCarran (D) of Nevada, favored open borders, and were dead set against strong border enforcement, Brownell said. But General Swing's close connections to the president shielded him – and the Border Patrol – from meddling by powerful political and corporate interests.

http://bit.ly/19rJru

Posted by: Jim in San Diego at June 24, 2010 12:23 PM (oIp16)

270

FIRST!!!!!

 

opps, my bad. Never mind.

Posted by: Old Hippie Vet at June 24, 2010 12:25 PM (3IZGh)

271

It still burns me up that the "American" company I got to do my roof employed exclusively mestizo workers.

 It's a fucking racket that the companies are running to avoid paying unemployment claims. 

Put Americans to work, you fucking leeches.  There's what, only about 25% unemployment right now?

That is why I'm not a "free marketer," right there, despite being otherwise a hard core conservative.


Posted by: s'moron at June 24, 2010 12:25 PM (UaxA0)

272 286: When has securing the borders ever been tried?

Posted by: PaleRider at June 24, 2010 12:26 PM (dkExz)

273

The prevalent solution is the status quo; do nothing. Unfortunately, that doesn't really work. The next biggest solution involves securing the borders and deporting illegal aliens. It sounds great, but that doesn't really work either.

Really? Can you demonstrate where we tried it and it failed miserably?

Posted by: maddogg at June 24, 2010 12:27 PM (OlN4e)

274

If this is truly the case, then why would anyone believe for an instant that illegal aliens would suddenly choose to start paying taxes and become citizens?

Because immigration laws aren't taken seriously by the government.

Tax laws are.

Posted by: FireHorse

 

This is idiotic. In order for them to be subject to tax laws, they would have to appear on the radar of the IRS. Most do not now. And there's no proof that we'll suddenly obtain the political will to forcibly register those that do not comply. That's why immigration law is intertwined here. We won't send forth Federal agencies to find those working under the table or in the shadow economy if we talking about immigration, but the same government will somehow do exactly that where payroll taxes are concerned.

Posted by: The undocumented Trade Council at June 24, 2010 12:28 PM (R2fpr)

275 Oh and building a chain link fence for 20 miles does not constitute securing the border.

Posted by: KG at June 24, 2010 12:29 PM (S8TF5)

276

Securing the borders and deporting illegal aliens doesn't work at all. As a practical policy, it is an absolute failure.

Better?

Posted by: FireHorse at June 24, 2010 04:19 PM (cQyWA)

And that's a lie. A flat out lie.

Posted by: Jim in San Diego at June 24, 2010 12:29 PM (oIp16)

277

And we just take your word for it FireHorse? No thanks.

That's up to you. Here's another idea: The government can pass more meaningless laws that it doesn't intend to enforce.

By the way, the U.S government isn't simply neglecting its duty in enforcing current immigration laws. It's going out of it's way to make sure that these laws aren't enforced by anyone at any level.

Yes?

Posted by: FireHorse at June 24, 2010 12:31 PM (cQyWA)

278

And that's a lie. A flat out lie.

There's a big white box on your screen. Start typing, and put me to some truth.

Posted by: FireHorse at June 24, 2010 12:32 PM (cQyWA)

279

From NRO's Corner blog:

Billionaires for Open Borders [Mark Krikorian]

New York mayor Michael Bloomberg has recruited Rupert Murdoch and other CEOs of multinational corporations to lobby for amnesty and increased immigration. Here's the video of Bloomberg and Murdoch being interviewed by one of Murdoch's Fox employees — hard-hitting accountability journalism!

You can imagine the pitch Bloomberg made to these guys — we need illegals to take care of our golf courses! And I'm not just making that up; he's actually made just that argument:

"You and I are beneficiaries of these jobs," Bloomberg told his co-host, John Gambling. "You and I both play golf. Who takes care of the greens and the fairways in your golf course?"

He should call his new coalition "Golfers for Illegal Immigration."

Posted by: stuiec at June 24, 2010 12:33 PM (7AOgy)

280 I just checked out the linked article. Never saw a picture of Pinch before. He looks a little like Bill Maher, if Bill Maher looked slightly less gay.

Posted by: SteveN at June 24, 2010 12:33 PM (7EV/g)

281 Wheeeee!11!11 FireHorsie my friend!!1!!!11 Maybe she pays for my premature delivery and five month hospital stay and visiting nursie, too. Wheee!1!!!!1!!

Posted by: Star Spangled Beaner the anchor baby at June 24, 2010 12:33 PM (w9bVp)

282 FireHorse, you claim that border enforcement and deportation don't work, but that is not what you are actually talking about. You are referring to the failure of the federal gov't to do its job, it is not the same thing.

Posted by: KG at June 24, 2010 12:34 PM (S8TF5)

283

 FireHorse, I refuted your argument in my post 292

Mass deportation has been tried in 1954-1955, and IT WORKS.

It also worked for the "Great Mexican Repatriation" between 1929 - 1939.

http://bit.ly/cecYCM

Two historical instances in this country, both in the 20th century, that proves mass deportation of Mexicans works.

Posted by: Jim in San Diego at June 24, 2010 12:36 PM (oIp16)

284

Because immigration laws aren't taken seriously by the government.

Tax laws are.


Oh dear, you are gullible.

Do you think the landscapers and construction workers pay taxes on their cash business? I got a neighbor in stucco with a 100k car in his garage and word is he's on food stamps.

Posted by: nine coconuts at June 24, 2010 12:37 PM (DHNp4)

285

We really are in a situation where most of the extremely wealthy are conspiring with a good chunk of the poor to destroy the middle class.

That's what it's all about.

The middle class in this country is large and wealthy enough that it competes with the rich for scarce resources.

They don't much like that. Nor do they like us investing.

They'd much prefer a serf class and an upper class. Easier to control and less competition for resources.

The game today seems to be to steal from the middle class and hand it to the poor who, being the ultimate consumers, quickly spend it right back into the hands of the upper class.

Let the middle class keep their money and they start getting funny ideas about investing and growing it. Or even starting their own companies. Can't have that.

Posted by: Warden at June 24, 2010 12:37 PM (QoR4a)

286 303

And that's a lie. A flat out lie.

There's a big white box on your screen. Start typing, and put me to some truth.

Posted by: FireHorse at June 24, 2010 04:32 PM (cQyWA)

I already did. See 308  and 292

Posted by: Jim in San Diego at June 24, 2010 12:38 PM (oIp16)

287

This is what it's like to live through the last days of a dying state.

Ineffectual or hostile government, marauding and violent illegal invaders and no help in sight.

California was a beautiful place to live, once. Damn.

Posted by: Who Knows at June 24, 2010 12:39 PM (7FgWm)

288

I once went to AA. They gave me this thing called the Big Book and it had 12 steps in it.

I couldn't be bothered to read it and worry about all that nonsense.

So you see, Alcoholics Anonymous totally doesn't work. Bartender! Nother beer here!

Posted by: Firehorse's drunken uncle at June 24, 2010 12:40 PM (QoR4a)

289 Can we have a new troll please? He's failing badly here. Are there any undocumented trolls that will do the job Firehorsie won't do?

Posted by: The undocumented Trade Council at June 24, 2010 12:40 PM (R2fpr)

290 Good links Jim, although we probably couldn't call it operation wetback today.

Posted by: Jean at June 24, 2010 12:42 PM (3Ds00)

291 Boeing is about to get some hate mail from me. My great-uncle was a B-17 pilot, KIA 1944, and that company has always been slightly sacred to me.

Posted by: SGT Dan at June 24, 2010 12:42 PM (GgXZc)

292

Anything would be better than the failed policies of Alcholics Anonymous. I'm going to try drinking every single drink put in front of me and see if that gets me sober.

Posted by: Firehorse's drunken uncle at June 24, 2010 12:43 PM (QoR4a)

293

Come on all you big strong men

Uncle Sam needs your help again

got himself in a terrible jam

way down yonder by the Rio Grande

put down your books and pick up a gun

we're gonna have a whole lot of fun....................

 

Posted by: Country Joe and The Fish at June 24, 2010 12:44 PM (3IZGh)

294

I knew they would see things my way...this corporate arm twisting thing is gettin eezee-fa-sheazy.

 

Posted by: BHO the H is for HARVARD bitches at June 24, 2010 12:46 PM (pr+up)

295 Sock off

Posted by: Old Hippie Vet at June 24, 2010 12:46 PM (3IZGh)

296 FireHorse isn't a troll. 

Posted by: all morons are wrong sometimes at June 24, 2010 12:48 PM (gbCNS)

297 317

Anything would be better than the failed policies of Alcholics Anonymous. I'm going to try drinking every single drink put in front of me and see if that gets me sober.

Posted by: Firehorse's drunken uncle at June 24, 2010 04:43 PM (QoR4a)

Yup! drinking yourself sober...it works, trust me.

 

Posted by: dananjcon at June 24, 2010 12:48 PM (pr+up)

298 315 Good links Jim, although we probably couldn't call it operation wetback today.

Posted by: Jean at June 24, 2010 04:42 PM (3Ds00)

Fuck using the language of my enemy. I'd call it "Operation Get The Hell Out of MY Country You Filthy Mexican Leaches" were I president.

Posted by: Jim in San Diego at June 24, 2010 12:48 PM (oIp16)

299 An economy is not as regular as a tide.  All boats can be grounded with enough Marxism and open borders. 

It would be good to bring in qualified immigrants when we have a growing economy.  Even Mexico was trying to keep good people to help their GDP.

But in a weak economy it makes no sense to throw tens of millions on the welfare/Medicare/Medicaid rolls ...  and to encourage the whole world to come get "free" health care, a right to a house and government job, and guaranteed benefits for life.

Close the borders, send illegal aliens home, raise retirement to 72, and show the world a model of how capitalism can work.

Of course we don't have real capitalism, but a mix with socialism ... but even with 50% capitalism and less corruption ... we would rule the world.

Posted by: bill at June 24, 2010 12:49 PM (nrOap)

300

You are referring to the failure of the federal gov't to do its job, it is not the same thing.

True, KG. But neither is it a failure resulting from negligence or incompetence or a shortage of resources. It's much worse than that. A law is only as good as the willingness to see that it's followed. That's why I say our immigrations laws have utterly failed. They're being undermined by too many public servants.

 

Posted by: FireHorse at June 24, 2010 12:50 PM (cQyWA)

301 FireHorse, fuck off!

Posted by: Jim in San Diego at June 24, 2010 12:58 PM (oIp16)

302 Bisbee - http://tinyurl.com/2amvchm interesting ...

Posted by: Jean at June 24, 2010 12:59 PM (NnH1t)

303 Correction: The long sobs of autumn's violins wound my heart with a monotonous languor. Sorry about that, you French resistance chaps. Posted by: BBC, circa 1943

Hear that, mes amis, he's sorry he sent the surrender code..

Posted by: French resistance chaps standing against a wall at June 24, 2010 01:02 PM (tGtLi)

304

No one came in and dragged me off this barstool. *hic*  The system failed. It's impossible to get sober.

Bartender! Where's that drink?

Posted by: Firehorse's drunken uncle at June 24, 2010 01:03 PM (QoR4a)

305 Sock removal

Sock removal

Sock removal machine

Posted by: FORGER - Racist Czar at June 24, 2010 01:04 PM (tGtLi)

306 The long sobs of autumn's violins wound my heart with a monotonous languor. Sorry about that, you French resistance chaps.

Posted by: BBC, circa 1943 at June 24, 2010 03:51 PM (RD7QR)

Wasn't that the message on June 5, 1944?

Posted by: stuiec at June 24, 2010 01:05 PM (7AOgy)

307

292 Jim in San Diego: Conditions are a lot different nowadays. Just because something worked 50 years ago doesn't mean that it's even possible now. (And right now, with Obama as president and Holder as AG, it's impossible.)

Do you think that something like that could work 5 years from now?

Posted by: FireHorse at June 24, 2010 01:05 PM (cQyWA)

308

326 FireHorse, fuck off!

Didn't see your comment at #326, Jim in San Diego. I take back my (serious) question at 332.

Pax.

 

Posted by: FireHorse at June 24, 2010 01:07 PM (cQyWA)

309 "Just because something worked 50 years ago doesn't mean that it's even possible now. (And right now, with Obama as president and Holder as AG, it's impossible.)"

So you're saying that the biggest obstacle is politics.  I don't think anyone would disagree with that.  But that doesn't mean it's logistically impossible.

Posted by: the peanut gallery at June 24, 2010 01:13 PM (NurK6)

310 It would be funny if Fox thinks now that they've strung its audience along, has their loyalty and all, that they can provide "guidance" on this issue.    It won't work except for the ones disposed that way already.  But, people do get tired of fighting and worrying, too.

Posted by: WaterJMoccasin at June 24, 2010 01:17 PM (GdalM)

311 Damn!! now all the corporations have gone wobbly and lefty on us.

Posted by: Denny Crane at June 24, 2010 01:18 PM (I+7Zv)

312 "Damn!! now all the corporations have gone wobbly and lefty on us."

Yeah!  All of a sudden, WTF?

Posted by: the peanut gallery at June 24, 2010 01:25 PM (NurK6)

313

I saw them on Fox this morning and it made my blood boil. Both of them were casting this as a debate between those who are for immigration versus those who are against immigration. Their talking points were aimed at helping to convince those who are anti immigration that these people (the illegals) are really nothing to worry about, that they are hard working and pay taxes.

I will join in any boycott against any and all corporations and cities who join in this effort. Fox network included. These people are all liars. The first and foremost issue is border security and not immigration. We don't have an immigration problem. We have a problem that our southern border is being over run. 

 

Posted by: exceller at June 24, 2010 02:03 PM (jx2Td)

314 The next argument will be that we need a cashless society to help stop illegal immigrants from working under the table and get them to help pay taxes.

Posted by: JS at June 24, 2010 02:03 PM (vMVRA)

315 President Wee Wee? How about President Doo Doo Head? at June 24, 2010 03:40 PM

Blow me.

Posted by: NJConservative at June 24, 2010 02:05 PM (LH6ir)

316

#292, to be pedantic, Joe Swing commanded the 11th Airborne Division, the Angels, not the 101st. Both divisions called Fort Campbell home at different times after WWII, though, and no one really remembers the 11th since they deactivated for the last time in 1958 (not counting the experimental airmobile unit at Benning in 1964-65), so confusion happens.

As for me, Boeing has gotten hate mail from me today.

 

Posted by: SGT Dan at June 24, 2010 02:14 PM (GgXZc)

317 hey, let me know when this 'legal status' thing happens. i've been trying to get a green card for years. all i'll have to do is fly in on holiday and become a citizen. yay!

Posted by: drunk aussie yobbo at June 24, 2010 02:55 PM (H4c+2)

318 My new book...my friends new book...tour....concert.....Ronald Reagan...new book....Newt...
Charlie Daniels...new book.....tour...book....Ronald Reagan....my book.,.Reagan....tour....book...book...Rove...book...tour.


Who am I?

Posted by: Barbarian at June 24, 2010 03:43 PM (EL+OC)

319 343 Glen Beck??

Posted by: steevy at June 24, 2010 04:26 PM (U2nz0)

320 If the path is a walking path through the minefields of Afghanistan, do you still object?  I'm just asking, because some of these dudes have earned it the old fashioned way.

Posted by: MarkD at June 24, 2010 04:47 PM (YhZfg)

321 Would like to say what I really think, but it is not politically correct, so I'll say this -

To be charitable, FireHorse is a fucking anti-American;
but, to be realistic (s)he/it [pronounced - shit] seems to believe that military force only works in the offensive mode, that all one needs to defeat any nation is to invade unarmed.

Why the fuck the Germans and Japs didn't think of this, I gues they did not know FuckHorse.


Posted by: Druid at June 24, 2010 05:48 PM (Oe01r)

322 Whoops, I misspelled  "guess" so I lose.

Posted by: Druid at June 24, 2010 05:54 PM (Oe01r)

323 338 I saw them on Fox this morning and it made my blood boil. Both of them were casting this as a debate between those who are for immigration versus those who are against immigration. Their talking points were aimed at helping to convince those who are anti immigration that these people (the illegals) are really nothing to worry about, that they are hard working and pay taxes.

I saw it too, and couldn't believe Nanny Bloomberg was actually claiming illegals don't use hospitals or welfare because ( I'm paraphrasing) no one would come here just to live on welfare.  What is it with these people that they think we will believe their bullshit lies and ignore what we see with our own eyes?

Posted by: Miss Fluffy McNutter at June 24, 2010 06:17 PM (xMSXs)

324 Isn't this the textbook definition of fascism...the government and the big corps colluding to place the populace totally under their collective thumbs? The corps are running out of jobs to export, so they are importing the cheap workers , Great.

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at June 24, 2010 07:00 PM (w5BsH)

325 I wouldn't object to bestowing citizenship on those foreigners who would fight for the country, but then that sort of thing leads to more issues...now we'd be using brown people as cannon fodder, catnip for anti-military Libs.... what about any family members that they bring over.....would they be required to learn English or would the DI's have to be multi-lingual....etc.....

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at June 24, 2010 07:05 PM (w5BsH)

326 So, when does the Spanish version of FNC debut? And the Farsi version? Hey, they can do specials on the fine art of car-burning.

Posted by: JBean at June 24, 2010 07:39 PM (SD1Pb)

327

Hmmm . . . boycott News Corp.?  Aren't ads for some of their subsidiaries in the rotation here?  Does this mean Ace will be returning that revenue - or is he going to boycott the service that includes their ads?

Seems like a mighty big effort to protest a publicity stunt.  Or did you think the fact that several pro-amnesty corporations and politicians "form a group" to do what they are already doing individually was the tipping point that would suddenly change the momentum  . . . from, like, 70% against?

If it's all that darned urgent, wouldn't it just be easier to hunt the 30% in favor down like dogs?  Or better yet, WITH dogs?

Boycotts are just so metrosexual - but what you and AP do on your own time in the privacy of your own hot tub is none of my business.

Posted by: Adjoran at June 24, 2010 11:07 PM (VfmLu)

328

Don't mind the bed-bugs...I'm in the apartment business and have had four cases of bed-bugs in the last year due to hispanics.  Never ever encountered this problem before in nearly twenty years...

Posted by: Hello this is the Orkin man, press 1 for englsh, two for Mexican at June 24, 2010 02:58 PM (sE08M)

When I lived in Bushwick several years ago, an apartment downstairs had at least three families living in a railroad. They lived in the apartment in shifts. In two rooms, since they couldn't get access to the kitchen at all times, they'd set up propane grills. But the kitchen was always open on the weekends when everyone would get together and cook. The grease on the walls was so thick and yellow, and there were roaches crawling everywhere.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at June 25, 2010 05:31 AM (mHQ7T)

329 Bloomberg is a fucking idiot, and I don't care how much money he has. These lawnchairs in Times Square, the Flatiron, etc are obstructive and unnecessary. The bike lanes are often annoying. The bike rental places everywhere ditto. If there is no scenic route, what's the point for tourists? That he is desperately sucking up to tourists for money is telling. There are MTA service cuts due to the budget shortfall, yet public sector employees are becoming millionaires. Over 8,074 MTA employees make over $100K. The city is strapped for cash. Cops are ticketing relentlessly. Business are fleeing in droves. If illegals were so good for the city, then how did we arrive at this point? During the Bush economy, they were moving here in droves. Where the fuck is this boat?

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at June 25, 2010 05:40 AM (mHQ7T)

330 If they break immigration laws, why would they comply with tax laws? Does he think they won't keep sending billions in remittances to Mexico?

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at June 25, 2010 05:42 AM (mHQ7T)

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