1

"While I would have been honored to represent Delaware in the U.S. Senate, I do not believe that seeking office in this manner is in the best interest of all Delawareans," Castle said in a statement released Wednesday night.

Honor.  This guy can't possibly be a Republican.

2 Must have decided he was picking off too many of the dem voters. Or else he's a good guy after all. Looks waaay old enough to retire to me.

3 meh... I think a write in wouldn't helped O'Donnell. A small upside is that it leaves Lisa Jorbowski all alone in her selfish write in effort.

4 POP TARTS! I like frosting

5 Something stinks in here.

6 hey raycon, i think your mom knows where most of the morons are

7 Oh fuck off you troll piece of shit.

8 A duck!

9 That's some pretty spam there, yessiree.

10 Castle dropping a write-in bid kinda deserves a cheerleader pic, no?

11 He realized that he wasn't going to be able to get the win. I will not venture that the reason he decided not to was because it might help O'Donnell. There's no proof of that and saying so would be wrong. The fact that he won't give the endorsement does suck.

12 Well, that race is over. WV is winnable in its place, though.

13 Well, that race is over. WV is winnable in its place, though.
Posted by: lorien1973

Hey now. Don't count out your blue hens before they're fried,or,or something. It ain't over yet!

14 12 - don't count it out yet. You never know how pissed off people really are and they may just vote to get all the dems out. we will see on election day. If you want to bend over then go ahead.

15 I'm confused about why Castle's (the evil RINO) endorsement is of value.  Do people really think that Democrats will vote for O'Donnell based on his endorsement?  I mean, the guy's supposedly a liberal, right, so whom is he supposed to be persuading to vote for O'Donnell? 

16 Because it would be a sign of unity against an agenda and not just a person.  And yes, psychologically, it may make difference in a few votes. 

17 2 Must have decided he was picking off too many of the dem voters.

I'm thinking this.

18 I mean, the guy's supposedly a liberal, right, so whom is he supposed to be persuading to vote for O'Donnell?

Moderate republicans? They, apparently, need to be coerced into voting for a conservative. He's being a real bunghole for not endorsing her. I'm tire of moderates losing in primaries and not endorsing the conservative. Conservatives (almost) always endorse the moderate if he wins.

19 Uh, lorien, I'm pretty hardcore conservative, but I think it sucks when hardcore conservatives don't endorse even a fairly conservative candidate.

*cough*Fuck Didier*cough.

20 @18
But here's the thing.  Many folks around here and elsewhere spent a lot of time saying that there is no such animal as a "moderate Republican" -- there are only conservatives and RINOs.  So why court these mythical beasts?

I'm only half-joking. 

If O'Donnell is the new face of the Republican party and Castle represented all that was wrong with it, then his endorsement has no value. 

21 Sorry, I don't want to bring up the recent unpleasantness of O'Donnell v. Castle---but she now has no chance.  But a Castle write-in was her only chance.  Hate to say I told yo so...

22 If O'Donnell is the new face of the Republican party and Castle represented all that was wrong with it, then his endorsement has no value. 

Posted by: Y-not at September 29, 2010 11:31 PM (osFsP)

He's making that very clearn, now, isn't he?

23 'm confused about why Castle's (the evil RINO) endorsement is of value.  Do people really think that Democrats will vote for O'Donnell based on his endorsement?  I mean, the guy's supposedly a liberal, right, so whom is he supposed to be persuading to vote for O'Donnell? 
Posted by: Y-not

Because some Democrats do cross party lines, and Castle had a record of attracting such votes, as well as those of independents. These were among the reasons cited for backing in before the primary. His endorsement could have certainly helped, especially here in the northern section of Delaware. He might also help forestall any thoughts by more liberal Republicans to not sit this out.

24 Sorry, I don't want to bring up the recent unpleasantness of O'Donnell v. Castle---but she now has no chance.  But a Castle write-in was her only chance.  Hate to say I told yo so...
Posted by: Bob

You didn't want you, and yet you did. And it isn't November yet. The DNC is putting money into Delaware. If she does nothing else, she can make them fight. Announcing across blogs that she's a write-off in late September is giving them an easy victory.

25 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xjFpd1MZZs

26 Editor at September 29, 2010 11:28 PM (YX6i/)

Oh I agree. This season has been particularly bad, though, with moderates either fleeing the party (Dede, Crist) or doing a write in bid (Murky, Castle) in an attempt to not let the conservative win in the general.

O'Donnell's win cost us this seat and I accept that. That said, if Castle couldn't make a better case in the primary to win it, he needed to get behind her and support her. This "I ain't endorsing the conservative" crap has gotten old.

27

DEMOCRATS RULE!!!!

WOOHOO!!!!!!!!!!!!1

this drive-by heckling was brought to you by joe

28 Having just read an interesting review in NRO about how so absolutely, completely necessary it is to not only win in this election cycle but to rip the dems still beating heart out of their collective fellow-travelers pigeon-chests and smear it in a big "O" on the ground before they expire..but I digress... Ace has said this has to be big but there are other reasons besides stomping the Dems into the ground. We also want to send a clear message to all the old elephants in the room, and that message is... DO NOT FUCK WITH US! Some in the rep. party have already come into the Tea Party's OODA loop over the Lisa MORCOWSKIN mooning (big old elephant hemorrhoids hanging out and all). We saw that plain as day and so the last warnings should be issued to these old fucks that still don't get it. So in a ramp up to the coming elections put the warrior mask on, and be ready to rumble cause these socialists will be looking at losing what they spent 40 years trying to obtain and THEY WILL FIGHT USING EVERY DIRTY TRICK and tactic and the end will justify the means...

29 I'm confused.  I thought Mike Castle was Evil Incarnate and deserved nothing less than to be thrown out of the Republican Party.

That's usually the first thing to come out of the O'Donnellistas' mouths.  The second thing is that the world will come to a screeching halt if they don't get this Judas' endorsement.

Still trying to figure this out.

30 Fair enough Blue Hen...the DNC is now going to spend a little $ now b/c they think the seat is winnable as opposed to not spending any $ b/c it wasn't.  I guess take your victories wherever you can find them.  Sorry, though she's more conservative than Castle she's, to put this kindly, a flawed candidate.  Less kindly, she's not a serious candidate to be a senator in any state, much less a blue one like Delaware.  The Democrat Coons is going to be the next Senator from Delaware as opposed to a Republican.  If you're happy with that to prove a point, good for you.

31

28   to rip the dems still beating heart out of their collective fellow-travelers pigeon-chests and smear it in a big "O" on the ground before they expire

dude!!!

32 Less kindly, she's not a serious candidate to be a senator in any state, much less a blue one like Delaware. Posted by: Bob Sez who?

33 I'm confused.  I thought Mike Castle was Evil Incarnate and deserved nothing less than to be thrown out of the Republican Party.

That's usually the first thing to come out of the O'Donnellistas' mouths.  The second thing is that the world will come to a screeching halt if they don't get this Judas' endorsement.

Still trying to figure this out.

Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at September 29, 2010 11:43 PM (GjywB)

Well, you should be.  You see, I'm not an O'Donnellista.  I didn't have a horse in the primary race.  So, you're generalizing those who are making the argument that the endorsement might have some value.  So stop with the fucking strawman shit.

34 Because some Democrats do cross party lines, and Castle had a record of attracting such votes, as well as those of independents.

Do you honestly think that a Delaware Democrat would vote for O'Donnell?  She's too far right for me on some issues. 

I get the party unity thing, but the Republicans decided to slam Castle and suck up to Murkowski.  Now he has nothing to lose (or gain) by refusing to play ball.  Everyone says how he's too old, so what would they offer him.  How's that working for them? 

35 And Castle's not pursuing a write-in campaign?  Good for him.  This is more class, dignity, and respect for the primary voters than Christine O'Donnell displayed when she ran as a write-in candidate for Senate in 2006 after failing to win the Republican nomination.

36 Bob,

O'Donnell's 3 million dollar grab in the last couple weeks may prove you otherwise, especially when Coons doesn't have the money (he only has about 725,000 on and, and 165K from the DCCC)

Money can make up the 9 points O'Donnell is down.

37 Undead,

Beating a dead horse won't make it ejaculate. So, you may want to try for a live horse instead.

38 Oh, and let me also qualify it with that fact that I was more of Didier guy than a Rossi guy, but when Didier pulled his shit after the primary I said, "Fuck you.  I'll never vote for you for anything."

39 Oh, and the Bears have a fag for a QB.

40 Sez anyone who's paying attention.  This is a woman who, as far as anyone can tell has had no income or a paying job for several years.  This a woman who admitted using campaign donations to pay her rent.  This is a woman....jeez, do I really need to do this.  Let's be honest....I know some of the morons don't want to hear this, she's a joke.  There I said it.  Her only qualification seems to be she's been running for Senate for several election cycles.  (Notice I haven't even mentioned her "youthful discretions" on "Politically Incorrect".)

41 29 Castle is one of the reach around...I mean reach across the isle deadweights that had to go. True I have not done full due-diigence on O'Donnell but we need young, aggressive people in the seats focused on the meaning of the Constitution and small government. Principles count this time around and not the usual bull-shit from the stump.

42 Beating a dead horse won't make it ejaculate. So, you may want to try for a live horse instead.

This is a live horse.  The continued flogging of Mike Castle two weeks after his primary loss ought at least to have the proper context.

43 Her only qualification seems to be she's been running for Senate for several election cycles.  (Notice I haven't even mentioned her "youthful discretions" on "Politically Incorrect".)

Posted by: Bob at September 29, 2010 11:51 PM (4DoFz)

But you really hate to bring it up and say, "I told you so", right?

44 I was rooting for Castle in the primary, but the people who are still attacking O'Donnell at this point are fucking assholes.

45 39  lmao

46 This is a live horse.  The continued flogging of Mike Castle two weeks after his primary loss ought at least to have the proper context.

Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at September 29, 2010 11:54 PM (GjywB)

Oh, you know, except for stringing along the electorate about a possible write-in campaign.  Yeah, poor Mike Castle.

47 >>Sez anyone who's paying attention.  This is a woman who, as far as anyone can tell has had no income or a paying job for several years.

A lot of the morons have been unemployed for the last couple years so I guess they're ineligible for elected office.

48 36  $3m and a cup of coffee will get Christine O'Donnell second place.  THIS IS AN OVERWHELMINGLY DEMOCRATIC STATE!  Sorry to use caps, but you people don't seem to be getting this.  To top that off, she's a terrible candidate, she's no Joe Miller.  He's a serious candidate with good credentials, but he almost certainly couldn't win in Delaware even with $3m.

49

Good for Castle.  He is now in Bob Bennett territory as far as class goes, leaving The Alaskan Merkin, the Tan Man, The Buck Toothed Upstate NY Geek, and Spectator as major league scumbags.

Other then that, I've got nothing.

Well, except that I am kicking DIT's ass in pick em. 

That is all.

50 Bob, she's prettier than you. Get over it.

51 "THIS IS AN OVERWHELMINGLY DEMOCRATIC STATE!" Massachusetts.

52 >>This a woman who admitted using campaign donations to pay her rent.

If she used her home as her campaign headquarters I don't see a problem. I have an office at home and I deduct certain expenses off my taxes.

53

Did anybody see Bill Maher on O'Reilly.

Talk about cuckoo for fucking Cocoa puffs.  

54 43  I do hate to tell you "I told you so", but I'm trying to bring people to reality.  She can't win without a write-in campaign for Castle.  Even then she probably wouldn't win.  I don't like disparaging her, if I was in DE I'd vote for her, but it is what is, she's a horrible candidate and, frankly, a joke.  The morons need to hear it, even if they don't want to.

47  Unemployed people can run for office.  Good luck getting elected though.  And if they're running for office just to get a paycheck and a job, they're not serious candidates.  (See Alvin Greene)

55 Bob,

I'm getting what you're saying. I'm just dismissing it because you're not an expert. I'm an expert. So I will ignore you.

Sorry, but you have no credibility in your words. Hell, you're not even a Delaware resident.

56 She is also dedicated to her message and it in that message she captured enough of the voters attention to get the nod. I love America. I will not surrender this country to socialists and Marxists and the UNIONS BE DAMNED!!!

57 Ok guys, Bob has convinced me.  Everyone into the time machine, so we can go back and vote for Mike Castle!

58 She would be a better Senator than Sheriff Joe. That is enough.

59 Oh, you know, except for stringing along the electorate about a possible write-in campaign.  Yeah, poor Mike Castle.

And yet he didn't do it, did he?  And Chrissy O. DID do it four years ago, didn't she?  Little Miss Unity 2010 pulled a Murkowski back then and told the primary voters to go fuck themselves.

This all just goes to show that if Chrissy were actually serious about winning the election, she'd take the training wheels off her campaign and run a real race.  But she doesn't do that, because ironically, like the biggest RINOs themselves, she's most comfortable running against other Republicans.  So the why doesn't Castle endorse? drumbeat goes on endlessly, as though he can be blamed for wanting to get far away from the woman who launched gay-rumor smears against him and hinted he was sending operatives out to assault her.  It is truly tiresome in both its pointlessness and its hypocrisy.  He's not going to endorse you, Chrissy.  I wouldn't either, if I were him.  Suck it up, move on, act like your campaign is worth the 2 million bucks in rent money that's poured into your coffers, and put up or shut up.

60 52  It may not be illegal for to use donations for her rent  if it's her campaign office.  But really, a candidate using their campaign donations to pay their living expenses?  REALLY?  I'm sure if a Democrat was doing that you would cut them to same slack right?

51  Scott Brown was a serious candidate, not a joke.  The analogy doesn't work, he's an attorney, a reserve officer.  I think Ms. O'Donnell just got her BA this year, and she's in her 30s.  Oh, and she apparently, "AHEM" was misleading in a lawsuit by implying she was a graduate student at Princeton at the time.


50  She's certainly prettier than me.  I'd love her to be my GF, sure she wouldn't go for it.  I would even love her to be my Senator if I was in DE.  But neither are going to happen.

61

Bob.   Overwhelming Liberal State???  Then explain Castle,  his 2 terms as Governor, and his 9 terms as lone Congressman.

Most states don't lean heavily one way or the other. They lean INCUMBENTLY one way or the other.

At the same time Castle was elected 11 times State wide.

Slow Joe Clown boy Joe Biden was elected to 6 terms as Senator, running for his first term at 29.   30 is the minimum requirement for Senate.

The east coast is generally liberal, but Pataki was elected in New York, as was Giuliani, in NYC.

O'Donnell is no more nutty than the BEARDED MARXIST.

How much NATIONAL MEDIA ATTENTION is being paid to this BEARDED MARXIST??

None.  The MFM, has zero qualms with MARXISM.  Therein lies the LEFTS PROBLEM.

They have dropped their pants in front of America.   They cannot un-de-pants themselves.   Marxism isn't seen or REPORTED as abberrant nor WRONG by those PROGRAMMED by the HIPPIES that run our EDUCATION systems from Kindergarten to PHD.

62 Hey war, show me where "Chrissy" has complained about not getting the endorsement in the last week?  Or, at all, for that matter.

63 She would be a better Senator than Sheriff Joe.

That is enough.

Posted by: eman at September 30, 2010 12:09 AM (ohdRh)

My baseline is Al Franken. 

In other words, Alan Keyes, the fat kid from Philly who deliberately puked on fans at a football game, Jared the Subway guy, Dave in Texas, Delta Smelt, the hobo Ace killed but forgot about rotting under his bed, and Grimace of McDonalds fame meet the test.

I'm on the Crazy Train.  Dig it.

64 Ticket, please.

65 Over/Under 700 posts in this thread. Meanwhile the ads on the homepage are all for Michelle Bachmann's opponent, claiming something like "lets show the tea party elections have consequences." Let's focus on the real enemy.

66 I would like to thank War, Bob, Tattoo and others for the continuous on-line blow jobs over the last month. I won't forget you in my memoirs : Mike Castle : Loser.

67

Is this CRAZY TRAIN.......green??   Is it HIGH SPEED RAIL??

We call the PROPOSED high speed train from Milwaukee to Madison.
75 miles.  With several stops ending no where near downtown or the UW-CAMPUS...

The   HALF FAST train.

Get it??   I thought  you would.

68 I could keep arguing about this....if you think I'm wrong and she can win, fine.  I don't think she can, for the reasons I've laid out.  Again, Gus, I could compare Pataki and Giuliani to Christine O'Donnell, but I won't.  I will say this, Mike Castle won many times because he's a liberal Republican and apparently likable to Delaware voters.  Christine O'Donnell seems likable enough but she's very conservative.  Perhaps in a year like this with a GOP wave a conservative can win in Delaware.  PERHAPS.  But she's got baggage, some of which I've laid out tonite.  I hope she wins, I'm just saying that she almost certainly won't.  Her best hope was a Castle write-in.  Without that, she's toast.  Your mileage may vary.

69 Think O'Donnell would have avoided a write-in?  Would she have given her endorsement?  Something about her tells me no.

70 Unless Michelle Bachmann's opponents is hot, young, blonde and SHE WILL BLOW ME FIRST.   I have no interest.  I'm opening my wallet for Mrs Bachmann, and I live in Wisconsin.

71 I don't necessarily disagree with your analysis Bob.  But then again.  I'm a BEARDED MOTHER FUCKING MARXIST.  Ergo I have no baggage.

72 I'm so sick of this minutia...i mean there is precedent for sleeping in your office and having your office in your home.  It makes for monetary sensibility.   Better that than have ol eric and the interns.

73 Look at this other baggage.

74 Think O'Donnell would have avoided a write-in?  Would she have given her endorsement?  Something about her tells me no.

Posted by: specious questions r us at September 30, 2010 12:23 AM (EPn5l)

And you know what?  I'd probably be more pissed at her than I am Castle, so suck it.

75 66  I only blew you because I thought you could win...and I think you would of won in the general.  You take wins where you can get them, you weren't my first choice. I rather you win than Chris Coons.

76 The lead is down to nine. She can win. It will be very difficult, but not impossible. If she pledges to repeal EbolaCare and forces Coons to say "Um, ah, hope?", she will win. EbolaCare will bring the Dems over to her.

77 Christ, now I have to defend Chris Coons of all people.  He made the "bearded Marxist" comment when he was in college.  (Again, notice I haven't pounded on O'Donnell for her comments in the 90s).  It's not serious. But even then, you make my point, he needs to be defeated.  Castle with all his terrible flaws ideologically, would have almost certainly done that.

78

Specious questions are U.  73.

I have a somewhat rhetorical question for  you.

Which do you prefer.

BEARDED MARXIST = Known shit sandwich.

or.

Flawed Conservative with dishonest resume.= Character flaws/questions.

I laid the question out as FAIRLY as I could.

You have a choice.  Which do you choose???

Seems to me that WE CONSERVATIVES will sacrifice OUR SELVES and our COUNTRIES FUTURE in order to be MORALLY PURE.

It's the time honored RIGHT vs DEAD RIGHT.

79 Having returned Biden, five times to the US Senate, three times after his plagiarisn was revealed, I can't be terribly sanguine about Delaware,I'm sure he realized it wasn't going to get him anywhere, and might even possibly help her,  so nuts to that, at this point I really don't care except for the fact that Coons makes Biden seem like Pete Dupont, he's that bad a candidate , and frankly Rove needs to pay a price
for his backstabbing ways, because lord knows he's never been in any ethical
contratemp

80 It's a funny race.  They're the only two who could possibly lose to one another.

81 62 Hey war, show me where "Chrissy" has complained about not getting the endorsement in the last week?  Or, at all, for that matter.

She doesn't have to, any more than she had to directly float the gay rumor -- she let others do that for her.  And I doubt very much she wants Castle's endorsement, because she seems perfectly happy to just keep on running against him right up until November.

82 76  I hope you're right.  The polls I've seen are 11-15 points. 

83 69 Think O'Donnell would have avoided a write-in?  Would she have given her endorsement?  Something about her tells me no.

As recently as a week before the primary she was refusing to rule out running as a write-in (again) if she lost.

84 She doesn't have to, any more than she had to directly float the gay rumor -- she let others do that for her.  And I doubt very much she wants Castle's endorsement, because she seems perfectly happy to just keep on running against him right up until November.

Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at September 30, 2010 12:34 AM (GjywB)

Oh, I see, so you go and tell her to stop whining about no endorsement, but you can't produce anything showing her actually whining about it.  I believe this is where I'm supposed to say STFU.

85

War,

If you lived in Dover, would you vote for O'Donnell?

Not being tricky or anything, straight up.  I've leaned more your way in this whole deal, particularly before the primary, but I'm board the CT now.  I have no choice.  It's the only train in town.

86

Bob.  We all say things we regret when we were young.  We all do things we regret because we were young.

How has COONS changed????  We KNOW what he wants.

It isn't a really deep thought friend.

O'Donnell is the FAR LESS RISKY CHOICE/

If O'Donnell fails to pay her mortage...................

I don't think O'Donnell is a good candidate, but I KNOW THAT COONS IS A MARXIST.

 

What say you???

 

87 Thinking about it a little, Castle not seeking a write-in campaign could almost be seen as a backhanded endorsement.  Not specifically directing his supporters her way, but not standing in her way either.

I think we should be fine with this.  That was a lousy, dirty primary after all.  What else should be expected?

88 And by the way, you anti-COD people are making me want to be an O'Donellista, so congratulations.  Dale Carnegie is very impressed.

89

O'Donnell is claiming someone else wrote her LinkedIn resume/profile.  That would be very subtle dirty work.  Very subtle.  I'd like to know how old it is, because if it's newer than, say, six months old, that might support what she's saying.  But I doubt it.

If she has fudged now, like, what? five times about her resume, that would indeed indicate a characterological problem.

90 Editor, you're an over-emotional ass, and your certitude is disturbing.

91

War, If you lived in Dover, would you vote for O'Donnell?

Yes, I absolutely would.  I always vote and I've never voted for a single Democrat in my life, and that means punching the button for the GOP candidate no matter who they are.  Even if they're detestable human beings like Christine O'Donnell.

I'm under no obligation to carry water for detestable human beings, though (cue the jeers that I'm doing so for Castle).  And I always skipped out of high school pep rallies. 

92 86 Has Coons advocated the abolition of private property?  Has he advocated the nationalization of the means of production?  Is that in any of his campaign material?   Maybe so, but I think I would've about it.  If so, please forward that to the O'Donnell campaign, then I have no doubt she'll win.  From what I've seen, he's a pretty standard liberal Democrat.  Who, BTW, will vote against repealing Obamacare.  Granted, I don't know if we could of counted on Castle to do that, but I know he was a better shot than Coons.

93

Editor.  In Utah, they give the death row prisoners a CHOICE.    Bullet or Lethal injection.  I THINK.

Delaware has been given a choice.   ONE or the OTHER.

The flaws of O'Donnell are on relevant VIS A VIS the FLAWS of Coons.

I'm not debating whether O'Donnell is smart, dumb, virtuous, a scofflaw or a poor manager of her personal finances.   I am not suggesting that O'Donnell has abilities that would make her a SOLID Conservative Senator.    My point is that O'Donnell is the ONLY CHOICE considering the OTHER OPTION.

I fully understand that there are many CONSERVATIVES (I once was a Democrat, but I've NEVER called myself a Republican) that SACRIFICE the GOOD for perfect.   There is no perfect.  

IT'S TIME TO CHOOSE.    COONS IS A LIBTARD MARXIST.

That is no acceptable.

Non-starter game changer.

 

94 In the long run, I think this is good news.

Would we have liked a Castle endorsement?  Sure, but it really would not have made a big difference.  If she wins, it will be on issues not Castle.

The reason I think this is good news is because it isolates the move to Merkinski and will lead to less of this crap in the long run.

Two years from now we will need to keep the Tea Party and the Republicans together - no separate tickets - and the faster the war in Delaware goes away the better.

95

Bob.  I won't waste my time with you anymore.

No Coons has not advocated eating babies.

He hasn't suggested we ship people to collective farms.

He hasn't proposed OUTLAWING religion.

You win. 

96

Yes, I absolutely would.  I always vote and I've never voted for a single Democrat in my life, and that means punching the button for the GOP candidate no matter who they are.  Even if they're detestable human beings like Christine O'Donnell.

Aight, just checking.  I have no more interest in this debate then.  It's all academic as long as you would vote for CT.

The fact that you would withhold support for John Tyler is despicable though.

97

The fact that you would withhold support for John Tyler is despicable though.

In War's defense, nobody wanted me.

98 Editor, you're an over-emotional ass, and your certitude is disturbing.

Posted by: rdbrewer at September 30, 2010 12:42 AM (EPn5l)

Well, at least I'm not into trannys.

99 I don't think I "won" Gus.  I want O'Donnell to win, I just think she's a terrible candidate who can't win and shouldn't have been nominated.  I was responding to the post---Castle isn't doing a write-in which I believe was her only chance of winning.  I hope I'm wrong, I don't want Coons to win, even with all O'Donnell's flaws.  But no, he's not a Communist, but I wouldn't vote for him!

100 I'm under no obligation to carry water for detestable human beings, though (cue the jeers that I'm doing so for Castle).

Of course you aren't, War. The thing is, by your continuing to be aggressively negative about her, you are by default carrying water for Coons.

I can't imagine you really want to do that. So with all due respect, maybe you should follow the old rule: if you can't say anything nice about COD, then just say nothing at all about her, at least until after the election.

101 And so Mike Castle goes into the dustbin of history like the whiny little bitch he is.

102

rdbrewer.   You are a bright guy.  You probably GET IT.   O'Donnell is a puffer upper.  She wants people to believe she is nice, better and more contrite than her CREDIT REPORT DOT COM number might indicate.

She is a bit of a perennial OFFICE seeker.   She has bent the truth in her personal life until it broke under the weight of TRUTH. 

O'Donnell is probably not the CONSERVATIVE she frames herself as.

She may have a mole on her left butt cheek, but only her Doctor and God (and her parents) have ever seen it.

NONE OF THAT MATTERS, but is it good to understand the people CONSERVATIVES like you and I..."get it'.

Her OPPONENT is the QUINTESSENTIAL LIBTARD MARXIST.

 

Which side do we ERR on?

Most of Republicans and neo-Conservatives have fallen victim to the LIBRARD and specifically ALYNSKI TACTIC of holding your OPPONENT to the STANDARD of THEMSELF.

Libtards have no standards.   The focus and spotlight is on O'Donnell being flawed.

COONS IS A LIBTARD MARXIST NUT.

103

Thanks for being civil Bob.

Unfortunately, you are wrong.   Coons is a Communist.   You and I must respectfully disagree.

Bob.   I respect your intelligence.  I just don't agree with your take.   Obama IS A MARXIST.   He is a COMMUNIST.

So is COONS.  They want Marxism and Communism, and most of us, don't realize that they WANT THIS.   Until we are fucked.

Take care man and God bless

104 I think she will get within five and then run out of time. But if she gets that close, the next election will go Conservative. Even in DE. Why? The power of the Magic Word. Trillion.

105 The dead-enders are still carping about O'Donnell?

Hey there handwringers, how about y'all buck up and get with the team for the big win?

We could just re-litigate the same damn debating points we have already argued every single day for the last two weeks.  Or we could just move on. 

106

RKS.   Castle does NO SUCH THING.

Mr. Castle is already recieving his Delaware Governors pension every month.

He served 2 terms.  Mr Castle is already recieving Social Security at $1500 or so a month.

Mr Castle will now RECIEVE a Congressional pension, perks and health care til DEATH DO-HE-PART.

Take 10 minutes of your time, with a pencil and paper and a calculator and see how REGALLY ....Castle will live out his GOLDEN YEARS on you and I.

Castle will live like a Captain of Industry for the rest of his natural life.

IT USED TO BE CALLED ..............PUBLIC SERVICE.

107 Thanks Gus, I hope you're wrong.  I think Obama (and probably Coons) is a democratic socialist who's not hell bent on canceling elections, setting up Gulags and collectivizing farms.  But maybe you're right.  If so, I hope whatever the outcome in DE they both can be stopped.

108 I'm gonna write in Lisa Mikecastley, bitches.

109

Let's stop construing criticism of O'Donnell as support of Coons.  Everyone who has expressed an opnion on the race has said they would support O'Donnell. 

When character was brought up before the primary, there were many who predicted more revelation about her background.  So this latest batch of "misstatements" about her record isn't exactly a surprise.

110

I feel so.......used.

Posted by: Mallamutt at September 30, 2010 12:56 AM (OWjjx

Whatever, go make me a sammich pops.

111 I can't imagine you really want to do that. So with all due respect, maybe you should follow the old rule: if you can't say anything nice about COD, then just say nothing at all about her, at least until after the election.

I tried, a lot of people who didn't like this woman have tried, but the Purging Patrol has kept its foot on the accelerator anyway (gems like #103 up there go to show that it really doesn't matter what people like Castle do; they've been frozen, personalized, and polarized along with half the party by opportunists like COD) and I genuinely do not believe O'Donnell cares if she wins this race or not.  Like John McCain before her, her brass ring was the primary election itself and she will now just go through the motions, making a point having been more important than gaining power.  Many of her most vocal supporters have said right here that they agree, she'll probably lose, but it doesn't matter because at least a RINO was purged.

And we're not supposed to say anything about this?

112

Hey  Bob!!  I'm glad we crossed paths.  You are a decent sort.  Thank you.

No AUTHORITARIAN, nazi, socialist, communitst, fascist......SET OUT to kill rape, repress and destroy.  They CANCELLED ELECTIONS ONCE THEY COULD!!!!!   Where you and I part company is where you don't see what I CYNICALLY see.   

Obama has some SEVERE EMOTIONAL and CHARACTER flaws.

Too much power, without having the requisite maturity and abilities.

But more to the point.  Obama's HIPPY Mama was a COMMUNIST.  She married a Muslim Kenyan Communist, She married an Indonesian Muslim Communist, she DUMPED Opie when he was 10, on to her COMMUNIST PARENTS, who put Opie in touch with FRANK MARSHALL DAVIS.

COMMUNIST FREAK.

GO read Opies books.

He is a MARXIST, he is A COMMUNIST.   He just goes about subverting VERSUS Advertising.

God bless you brother.

113

Oh, wait, gus, for you:

Let's STOP construing CRITICISM of O'Donnell as support OF Coons.  Everyone WHO has expressed AN opnion on THE race has SAID they would SUPPORT O'Donnell. 

WHEN character WAS brought UP before the primary, THERE were many WHO predicted MORE revelation ABOUT her background.  So this LATEST batch of "misstatements" about her RECORD isn't EXACTLY a surprise.

114 Mr Castle will now RECIEVE a Congressional pension, perks and health care til DEATH DO-HE-PART.

So O'Donnell is going to refuse all of the above if she's elected?

115

What, she hasn't been around......the hell you say. She said she was going to hang around afer the primary. Even said we were friends

Btw,

I could have swore I saw a "pam" on the Palin thread.  No big bold font to confirm it was the same one though.

116 So this latest batch of "misstatements" about her record isn't exactly a surprise.

Posted by: rdbrewer at September 30, 2010 01:11 AM (EPn5l)

Certitude.  It's not just for the over-emotional asses.  Welcome to club, dood.

117 113  Thank you!

118 I wonder if the unspoken reasons the moderates who have lost primaries do not want to go away is: A)They know we will be the majority party and have known for some time, B)Know that being in the majority means more goodies for themselves and their constituents and C)Know just how much leverage they would have on close votes.

It would have to be hard for a lifelong politician to walk away quietly after being denied a ticket to ride a once-in-a-generation wave election.

119

Rdbrewer.  I get your point. 
But if you want O'Donnell to win.  If Charles Krauthammer wants O'Donnell to win.   WHY ARE WE DISCUSSING HER FRAILTIES????

I get it.  If I'm in Delaware.  I have a choice.

SHIT SANDWICH or

SMALL GLASS OF PISS.

You  must choose one.

Which one do you choose?

 

120

Let's stop construing criticism of O'Donnell as support of Coons. Posted by: rdbrewer

What possible good is there in carping about O'Donnell at this point? The primary's done.

Do you and Bob honestly think we have no idea about her weak points now?

121

What, she hasn't been around......the hell you say. She said she was going to hang around afer the primary. Even said we were friends.

She could not have been an O'Donnell troll, volunteering to troll conservative web sites to spit out anti-Castle talking points, could she...

Mutt, I felt that way in my very first interaction with her.

122 What possible good is there in carping about O'Donnell Castle at this point? The primary's done.

Fixed.

123 >>Let's stop construing criticism of O'Donnell as support of Coons.  Everyone who has expressed an opnion on the race has said they would support O'Donnell. 

Lets stop construing criticism of Castle or the belief he is bad for the Republican Party(see McCain, Graham, the Maine sisters, etc) as a RINO purge. Deal?

124 Come get some.

125

Minuteman.   Taking over ALL STUDENT LOANS.

Please Mr. Obama,  may I have some MORE???  I'm hungry.

The CENSUS.  

Health Care.

Tax policy.

Porkulus.  Give to LIBTARD CAUSES until it hurts.

IF YOU DON'T WIN.  YOU LOSE.  

126

YES!!!! Dr Spank!!!!

That McCain sucked.  We are much better with Obama.

127 What possible good is there in carping about O'Donnell Castle at this point? The primary's done.

Fixed.

Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at September 30, 2010 01:19 AM (GjywB)

Give it up.  Nobody is carping on Castle here.  There isn't a single comment, in this thread, other than DIT saying an endorsement would be nice, disparaging Castle. 

128

Garbonzo, she has new weak points to carp about.  See the stuff about her LinkedIn resume.

But if you want O'Donnell to win.  If Charles Krauthammer wants O'Donnell to win.   WHY ARE WE DISCUSSING HER FRAILTIES????

We INDICATED we'd be GOING over THIS stuff BEFORE the PRIMARY.  And HERE we ARE doing JUST that.  NO one WOULD have PREFERRED to, BUT there IT is.

I'm having fun spoofing your shout mode, because I can't help imagining you saying these things as written, like you have Tourette's or something.

129 Nobody is carping on Castle here.

Well, we're still trashing him two weeks later. 

130

Garbonzo, she has new weak points to carp about.  See the stuff about her LinkedIn resume.

But if you want O'Donnell to win.  If Charles Krauthammer wants O'Donnell to win.   WHY ARE WE DISCUSSING HER FRAILTIES????

We INDICATED we'd be GOING over THIS stuff BEFORE the PRIMARY.  And HERE we ARE doing JUST that.  NO one WOULD have PREFERRED to, BUT there IT is.

I'm having fun spoofing your shout mode, because I can't help imagining you saying these things as written, like you have Tourette's or something.

Posted by: rdbrewer at September 30, 2010 01:24 AM (EPn5l)

You mean that LinkedIn resume that she may not have had anything to do with, RD?  There is legitimate doubt as to whether she, or her campaign, or anyone that knows her, had anything to do with putting it up there.

131 Garbonzo, she has new weak points to carp about.  See the stuff about her LinkedIn resume. Posted by: rdbrewer

What shout mode?

And, again, how does this help conservatives?

132

I can't type or spell, but I have a photographic memory of every vote Mike Castle ever made.

Yeah, heh.  Problem with some concern trolls is that they're too clever by half. 

133

That's ok rdbrewer.  You noticed my "style".  I'm not insulted at all.

You are correct.   You are still criticizing the BEST HOPE we have.  After the primary is over.  

Rdbrewer.  I'm very logical.   What do you gain by waisting your time RIPPING the better of the 2 choices you have??   People get into pissing matches and cannot help themselves.

COONS or O'DONNELL??

Which one do you choose or hope for?

If O'Donnell is  your answer, then your ego owns you.  I own my ego.

Regardless of my "style".

 

134 YES!!!! Dr Spank!!!!

That McCain sucked.  We are much better with Obama.

Are you saying I didn't vote for McCain or that I believed Obama would be the better president? Anyway, I was talking about the Senate, the SEANATORS I listed might have been a giveaway.

135

I WAS RIGHT ABOUT O'DONNELL!!!!!!!!

 

How the fuck does that defeat the BEARDED MARXIST?

Simple question.

 

136

You mean that LinkedIn resume that she may not have had anything to do with, RD?  There is legitimate doubt as to whether she, or her campaign, or anyone that knows her, had anything to do with putting it up there.

I know they said so, Gryph.  My point is, I looked at it, and if it's fake, it's damned subtle.  Anyway, I'd like to know when the profile was created.  No one would have had a reason to fake it, say, a year ago. 

137

Oh, Garbonzo, sorry, it was gus doing the shouting.

138 When your senators are Jeff Bingaman and Tom Udall, you would vote for a blind hog over them.  At least a blind hog will find an acorn now and then.

139

No Dr Spank, I'm not saying you didn't vote for McCain.   I did.  I knew who and what he is/was, but he was the better choice. 

My point is that the CHOICE is

COONS and his BEARD.

or

O'Donnell and her parking ticket in 1989.

It's so fucking simple. 

140 Is my computer possessed by an evil liberal spirit?
Right under this story is an ad soliciting funds for Michelle Bachman's opponent - "Taryl Clark is within 1 percentage point - We can defeat the Tea Party"
I would rather perform surgery on myself than donate to those douche-nozzles,

Whiskey.
Tango.
you know the rest.

141 126  As far as stealing elections go, yeah, the Dems have been doing it for years through groups like ACORN.  Hell, they've been doing it since Bosses Tweed, and Pendergast, that doesn't make them communists.

As to nationalizing the auto companies, banks etc...um, that's kind of my point, Democratic socialists nationalize some industries.  Look how they did it here, they bailed them out and took equity in the companies.  They didn't seize them.  (You also seem to forget some of the bank stuff started under Bush)  That doesn't make them communists either.  As to the coming Gulags...ok, if you say so.  But you realize you sound like a Kos commenter circa 2005 right? 

I have no problem with tough rhetoric.  But this was something that endlessly pissed me off about liberals during the Bush years:  They had plenty of legitimate, substantive complaints they could make.  Instead it was "ChimpyHaliburtonBushhitler this" and "ChimpyHabilburtonBushhitler that," "It rained today, it's ChimpyHaliburtonBushhitler's fault", etc.  They had no presumption of good faith on the part of Bush.  Why the over-the-top hyperbole when you can just disagree?  Obama is plenty bad enough, why call him a commie?  (Unless you're kind of jokingly doing it like Jim Treacher?)

142

Minuteman.  You and I are on the same page.  When the HOUSE is on FIRE, don't worry about your favorite t-shirt.   THE FUCKING HOUSE IS ON FIRE. 

Yes but O'Donnell never paid to have 9volt batteries in her SMOKE DETECTORS.

Obama is a MARXIST.  He is at the PENULTIMATE SOURCE OF POWER and he has ORGANIZED others to do his dirty work.  He has no SCRUPLES, he has no CONSCIENCE.

I'm not cool with CLEANING UP AUCHWITZ 2.0

This is MY country and I'm not leaving it to ANDY STERN and THUG TRUMKA.

143 I forgot whose side I was on.

144 Is my computer possessed by an evil liberal spirit?
Right under this story is an ad soliciting funds for Michelle Bachman's opponent - "Taryl Clark is within 1 percentage point - We can defeat the Tea Party"

Whew, I was afraid I was the only one who was seeing that ad and that it was proof positive I was subconsciously a Manchurian Democrat. 

145 Chris Coons has an Masters Degree from Yale Divinity School. 

Just so we can put this race in context.

146 Side?

It's a circular firing squad Spank.  We just keep shooting 'til we all dead.

147

875 BILLLLLLLLION PLUS INTEREST.   Less than 3 weeks INTO OFFICE.  PORKULUS.   Conference committee had ZERO...ZERO REPUBLICANS allowed in BOB.   WHY??   WITNESSES.

How'd that work out??  Who was the money DESIGNED TO PLEASE??

February 17 2009.

The MARXIST RAPE of AMERICA started less than 3 weeks after a an INCOMPETENT NEOPHYTE, AFFIRMATIVE ACTION, COMMUNTITY ORGANIZING, OWNED BY UNIONS, HOPE AND CHANGE LOSER ENTERED OFFICE.

Unemployment went up.  Govt. Grew.  

NEXT UP!!!! HEALTHCARE HOPE AND CHANGE!!!

 

 

148 115  Many of her most vocal supporters have said right here that they agree, she'll probably lose, but it doesn't matter because at least a RINO was purged.

And we're not supposed to say anything about this?

Well, to be honest, reading the thread in real time it seemed as if Bob and then you started the argument anew, and that impression was the genesis of my comment. Reading it again, I realize that you all probably took the criticism of Castle as an incitement. I think the criticism was fair, but I can see where you wouldn't. And for the record, I know your commitment to conservative principles is beyond reproach from your many posts on other subjects, so I am not questioning that.

From my point of view, the Delaware Republican electorate has made their choice, so she is on my team for better or worse, and so any criticism of her at this point is counter-productive--especially considering the uncommonly high stakes at play in this election.

Is it a better long-term strategy to rid the party of weak sisters like Castle? That's a matter worth discussing; there are good arguments on both sides. But right now, on the eve of battle, maybe you should let go of a race that you feel is already lost and keep your powder dry for races you feel still can be won.

149 Re: My #150
Misread the ad - it says "single digits" NOT "within 1"
but still . . .

Why did that ad show up on my monitor?

150 Bob,

Are you seriously going to split hairs getting into a forensic examination of the difference between a Communist and a Progressive?  You want to know the only real difference? 

A Progressive is someone who still thinks he can get Marxism implemented without resorting to coercion.

That's pretty much it.

151 159 I didn't take the criticism of Castle as an incitement, I could care less about him except that he had a much better chance than O'Donnell of winning.  That's all I care about, gaining a seat for the GOP.  Maybe you're right, I should've kept my mouth shut.  I was responding to the post, that IMHO this was bad news for O'Donnell.  But I opened up old wounds by bringing up her deficiencies. 

152 Guys, you're losing sight of the big picture.  This is just one election out of hundreds - it will fade into the sands of time.  What's REALLY IMPORTANT here in the long run is that everyone must realize that Bob was RIGHT, and the primary voters in Delaware were WRONG.

153 161  I don't think it's splitting hairs.  One uses the rule of law and democratic means, the other rapes and kills.  They're not the same.  Is Sweden the same as the USSR under Stalin?

154 But right now, on the eve of battle, maybe you should let go of a race that you feel is already lost and keep your powder dry for races you feel still can be won.

Fair enough -- but this whole thing is about more than Christine O'Donnell.  She's just the poster girl for "purge the RINOs by any means necessary", something that doesn't look like it's going to stop any time soon.  (Mark Levin, having taken Castle's scalp, is now prepping his campaign against Chris Christie.)

155

Balrog.  Bingo.  Communism is defined as BLAH BLAH BLAH SNORE.

If you DO NOT SEE what OBAMA is about............

God help you.

 

156 163  I don't think they were "wrong".  They wanted the more conservative candidate.  I think they chose poorly if they wanted to retain the seat for the GOP.  Maybe they thought differently or didn't care about retaining the seat and just wanted to nominate the conservative.  That's fine.  But she is almost certainly going to lose.  I hope I'm proven they're right and I'm wrong.

157 "I hope I'm proven wrong and they're right"...sorry, it's getting late.

158 164,  Duh, that's what I said.  In Sweden, they did not have to force it on the population while in the USSR they most certainly did.

159 So, I was considering my chances of withstanding the next terrorist attack today when the time got close to the noon hour.  All I had to do was meet a rep and sign a routine order.

She was a talker though and started a string of adjectives, spin and general product propaganda.  It was some time before I could divert her to the form I knew we would need.

Out came the form and she began to fill it in with spirit.  Long, flowing letters with flourishing elements like a tail on the "t"'s.   Perfectly formed circles above the "i"'s - well, you get the idea.

The question is: "Why do women talk fast and write slow?"

160 170  I don't disagree with all of that, but some.  The point is, you're basically describing most liberal Democrats.  They believe in redistribution of income for it's own sake, racial grievance, anti-colonialism,etc.  Call it "Marxism" if you want.  I have no doubt Obama is influenced by Marx and was probably really into Marxism in college.  But his Treasury Secretary is from Goldman Sachs.  Most of his economic advisors are mainstream left-of-center economists like Larry Summers.  Try telling the leftwing nuts at Kos or Pandagon that Obama is one of their own and see what they say.  Even with all he's done they consider him a sellout.

161 171  No, the point is the socialists in Sweden (and other countries where they've held power) were elected democratically and also once elected didn't murder and rape.  They also gave up power when they lost elections.  That's the difference.

162

TERMS.  Socialist   Progressive.  Marxist.  Fascist.  Social Justice party.,  Liberal.

Yes, I'll give them all the benefit of the doubt.  They mean well.

Wow.

163 I don't care if they "mean well".  The Nazis "meant well" from their perspective.  But I don't put a progressive Democrat who wants a larger welfare state, more environmental regulations, more favorable union legislation and that kind of thing (as much as I may disagree or think those things are misguided) into the same category as someone who wants to abolish private property and capitalism.  If you show me any proof Obama wants to do either of the latter, I'll agree with you.  (And saying, "He wants to redistribute wealth" or "He wants to nationalize health care" doesn't cut it)

164 OK, I'm done.  WAY past my bedtime. Sorry to stir up shit.  Nice talking to y'all.  I'll probably just lurk from now on.  But feel free to call me a jerk on this thread.  I'm going to bed now and probably won't read it tomorrow.

165 An endorsement would be even less petulant Mike.

Baby steps ...

166 So the majority of the older who draw Social Security will vote to enslave the younger to pay for it.

The only "enslavement" came from the federal authoritarians who insisted on withholding people's earnings without choice involved, then spending the funds indiscriminately on PORK AND KICKBACKS.

The opposite argument holds. The old paid their lifetime into Social Security, a matter that federal authorities determined despite public opinion. It isn't as if a grandfather clause based upon years "invested" via government mandate shouldn't be available, ESPECIALLY for those too old and weak and considered by employers unable to work any longer. As if those elderly who paid their entire lives into Social Security aren't going to be gone by natural causes soon enough.

Perhaps the "younger to pay for it" are only now awakening to the authoritarian federal abusers of government's powers, now facing reality while growing up, no longer provided for and protected by parents. Rather than confront the abusers in all their bastardized "glory", the frustrated coward attacks the weak and vulnerable.

btw, my frustration with someone like Ron Paul is that he's stuck preaching where America went wrong. Yet I've never heard his coherent plan how to correct America's course FROM WHERE WE ARE NOW to realistically reach the Libertarian Ideal of Constitutional Governance.

167   But she is almost certainly going to lose.  I hope I'm proven they're right and I'm wrong.

You lie.... why else would you invest the time and energy in posting over and over?  It's personal to you and  you want her not to win and the smug satisfaction of telling us over and over she won't win.  Why?  Not sure, but it's not political.  It's about you.

168 30 The Democrat Coons is going to be the next Senator from Delaware as opposed to a Republican.  If you're happy with that to prove a point, good for you.

Posted by: Bob at September 29, 2010 11:44 PM (4DoFz)

If that is so, its only because whiny lib republicans can't get over losing a 'sure thing' primary.  Not that you would be one of those whining libs, of course. 

169 Perhaps the "younger to pay for it" are only now awakening to the authoritarian federal abusers of government's powers, now facing reality while growing up, no longer provided for and protected by parents. Rather than confront the abusers in all their bastardized "glory", the frustrated coward attacks the weak and vulnerable.

Horseshit. The great majority of wealth in this country resides with the elderly. Think about it: wealth takes time to accrue.

Yet, we are constantly told about poor old granny who will have to decide between medicine or food this month.

The fact is that many of those over 65 are financially fine and simply balking at not getting their money back. I get that. They are correct that they were promised something. Well, let me take a page from Governor Christie and tell you that those promises were lies. And now it comes down to will you impoverish the next generation for the false promises of the generation before yours?
SSI needs means testing. Now.

170 OK, I'm done.  WAY past my bedtime. Sorry to stir up shit.  Nice talking to y'all.  I'll probably just lurk from now on.  But feel free to call me a jerk on this thread.  I'm going to bed now and probably won't read it tomorrow.

Posted by: Bob

 

Bye troll.

171 Editor, you're an over-emotional ass, and your certitude is disturbing

The irony here is simply crushing.

172

C'mon, nothing Castle does or says is going to change the outcome of this race.  It's O'Donnell's to lose, which is exactly what she's going to do.

173
I tried, a lot of people who didn't like this woman have tried, but the Purging Patrol has kept its foot on the accelerator anyway (gems like #103 up there go to show that it really doesn't matter what people like Castle do; they've been frozen, personalized, and polarized along with half the party by opportunists like COD) and I genuinely do not believe O'Donnell cares if she wins this race or not.  Like John McCain before her, her brass ring was the primary election itself and she will now just go through the motions, making a point having been more important than gaining power.  Many of her most vocal supporters have said right here that they agree, she'll probably lose, but it doesn't matter because at least a RINO was purged.

And we're not supposed to say anything about this?

Posted by: The War Between the Undead States

Then say the same damn thing about the Purging Patrol in Utah. And then say the same thing about the Purge patrol in Alaska. And say the same thing about anyone else who dares to vote for anyone but the annointed choice of the party leaders and pundits.

While you are far too dishonest to state it explicitly, what you are railing against is the peasantry actually exercising their rights. If you don't like the results obtained from primaries, then add conditions that will produce only candidates that you like. Or, ban them in blue states, which is what I suggested in the first week. And unlike you, I live here.Then the 'Purge Patrol' will be no more. If such honesty is beyond you, then perhaps the next time one of your favorites is inconvenienced by the rabble, send them a letter and note that Chris Christie did more work in the primary than Castle did, and that if they don't wish to share Castles' fate, get off their ass.

Please note that no one is railing against Joe Miller for upsetting the apple cart. the result of that primary is Republican resources being pitted against Republican resources, Dems in Alaska scheming to profit from the division, and sitting Republican Senators having to explain and/or dodge explaining why they are doing or not doing what they're doing, since they have no clue who the nest Senator from Alaska will be.

And nor should anyone defame Miller. He had a right to run. He did win. There are only two differences here; Alaska is a red state, and Miller is a stronger candidate.

174

C'mon, nothing Castle does or says is going to change the outcome of this race.  It's O'Donnell's to lose, which is exactly what she's going to do.

Posted by: Bob

 

And you said that you wouldn't return. People who know nothing about Castle, O'Donnell or Delaware politcs have for weeks purported themselves to be experts. It's become painfully obvious that you can't even fake it.

If Castle was so great, and had such appeal, then by definition an endorsement from him would have value. If not, then his stature as a candidate was overblown. Would it seal the deal? I can't tell with certainty at this point, but if events change then it might be crucial. Is she a far weaker candidate? Yes, but that was established weeks ago. Did she do more to win the primary then he did? Yes, but such facts are inconvenient to you.

175

IMO, as a Delawarean, no endorsement from Castle, no way. There was a big editorial in Wilmington's paper of record today from someone from CREW(?) who billed themselves as a non-partisan watchdog type group concerned about ethics in politics. She accused O'Donnell of all kinds of unethical skullduggery. In the meantime another article with photo about Colbert poking fun at Delaware and O'Donnell not going on his show.

No way Castle, who was always treated pretty tenderly by the paper for a Republican, is going to get in the middle of the barrage and rally to her support. Would be nice, but I don't see it happening. 

176

No way Castle, who was always treated pretty tenderly by the paper for a Republican, is going to get in the middle of the barrage and rally to her support. Would be nice, but I don't see it happening. 

Posted by: RM

 

Agreed. Considering that his days in office are probably over, he has nothing to lose by pitching in, but he won't. I doubt that he'll challenge Carper in 2012, since he dodged running against him at least once (he dodged Biden either two or three times). In 2014, he'll be 74. There are older farts in the Senate. But if Beau Biden steps up then, will Castle run, or choose to play the Delaware game and avoid a first string matchup?

177 Shocker Hen, there's more than one "Bob." 

178 Shocker Hen, there's more than one "Bob." 

Posted by: Virginia Bob

I see that the hash changed. But then, so does mine depending on whether I'm at home or work.

The point still stands. I've been told by numerous people how lucky I am to have a fellow like Mike Castle, and how he is so successful in winning elections here. I know that; he's been doing that since I was 3 years old. I've been voting for him since about 1982. That includes this primary. So much for that.

It'd been nice if he tried to translate that bag o' talent into some help for the candidate we got. But he's chosen not to do that. Is it because she's a lost cause, that the one lousy sole media outfit here is doing its duty to serve the Dem, or that he's still pissed? I don't know, and neither do you. Only Castle knows, and he's not telling.

The notion that any and all endorsements magically (see what I did there?) have no value whatsoever is intruiging. I'd have a much better time buying it if I heard this schtick before the primary, instead of after it.

179 Voice of reason here

The Delaware campaign will work it self out.  Lets move to other campaigns.  The article put up yesterday showed where the DNC is spending money.  One odd place is in the 1st district in Michigan-the Stupak seat.  We could win that seat if Dan Benishek could get a money bomb.  He is good, and the people here feel betrayed by Stupak.  Plus the Dem. candidate is a career politician.  Benishek is a doctor who just had enough.  Lets concentrate our efforts on places that need our help.

180 Voice of reason here

The Delaware campaign will work it self out.  Lets move to other campaigns.  The article put up yesterday showed where the DNC is spending money.  One odd place is in the 1st district in Michigan-the Stupak seat.  We could win that seat if Dan Benishek could get a money bomb.  He is good, and the people here feel betrayed by Stupak.  Plus the Dem. candidate is a career politician.  Benishek is a doctor who just had enough.  Lets concentrate our efforts on places that need our help.

Posted by: chillin the most

 

What does the polling (if any) look like?

What is the natural inclination of the district (R+ or D+)?

Does Banishek have any cash and/or organization on hand?

Does Banishek have any ads running, and in what media?

Is he getting any outside assistance?

Is the opponent getting any?

I'd suggest covering these points, and sending an e-mail to Ace or the cob-loggers and getting a thread going. You might also want to reach out the the RS McCain blog.

181 OK Hen, good luck.  I don't think O'Donnell has a chance, but I would be very, very happy to find out I was wrong.

182 No outside assistance.  There is no national polling, too small of an area, but personal polling showed Benishek way ahead until the DNC stepped in with all of the TV ads.  The only Benishek ads are personal appearances everywhere, and radio.  This is a large area-both the top of the lower peninsula and all of the upper, so radio ads are limited to the local areas.  I will try e-mailing Ace and RS McCain.  Thanks

183 OK Hen, good luck.  I don't think O'Donnell has a chance, but I would be very, very happy to find out I was wrong.

Posted by: Virginia Bob

 

I think that her chances are slim too; that's why I voted for Castle. But she's what we got, and we have to make the Dems at least fight here. That means that money and press that other Dems could get is being denied.

thanks for the best wishes, we're gonna need 'em.

184 No outside assistance.  There is no national polling, too small of an area, but personal polling showed Benishek way ahead until the DNC stepped in with all of the TV ads.  The only Benishek ads are personal appearances everywhere, and radio.  This is a large area-both the top of the lower peninsula and all of the upper, so radio ads are limited to the local areas.  I will try e-mailing Ace and RS McCain.  Thanks

Posted by: chillin the most

 

I meant what I said about doing a synposis with those points and then sending it; it gives them something more to work with. Also note what sort of media outfits reach those areas, and which (if any) have influence (ex:print vs. TV). Isn't that area within range of Canadian TV and radio?

Also: 

list relevent blogs that these guys can look at. 

What(if anything) is the regional/state Republican party doing, or could do? Lighting a fire under their ass or getting him partnered with a safe seat that can loan him money, appearances or talent can be crucial.

Michigan has two peninsulas? I guess that the lower part does qualify as one, doesn't it?

185 While you are far too dishonest to state it explicitly, what you are railing against is the peasantry actually exercising their rights.

This is the attitude that's been sending me up the fucking wall ever since that soft effete turd Rove voiced it the night of the primary.  How dare they vote against what their superiors know is in their interest.  Fuck that shit.  This whole election cycle has been a real eye-opener about who you want on your side and who should just fuck off.

186 I think Delaware's 15 minutes of fame are way over with. Hope O'Donnell puts up a good fight.

187

And yet he didn't do it, did he?  And Chrissy O. DID do it four years ago, didn't she?  Little Miss Unity 2010 pulled a Murkowski back then and told the primary voters to go fuck themselves.

O yeah, against Jan Tang, the guy who was thrown out of the Republican party only two years later for endorsing and contributing to Obama. The guy who couldn't support McCain for President because of his stance on immigration. That guy, the one that was a Mike Castle approved Democrat in Republican clothing.

I suspect that there was quid pro quo in Delaware. The Republicans wouldn't put up a viable challenger for Senate and the Democrats wouldn't put up a viable challenger for the House seat.

188

I suspect that there was quid pro quo in Delaware. The Republicans wouldn't put up a viable challenger for Senate and the Democrats wouldn't put up a viable challenger for the House seat.

Posted by: Dr. Heinz Doofenshmirtz

 

Welcome to Delaware politics. See my note above. Castle has had several chances to be a US Senator. He chose not to run against Biden repeatedly (three times), and Carper (twice).

Delaware political trivia via Wikipedia (yes i know). Only four people have served two consecutive terms as governor in the history of the state. It was the last four people, not counting the incumbent, Jack Markell.

The problem here is worsening, and we're being told to shut up and focus solely on the pundits' favorite.

189

>>> Then say the same damn thing about the Purging Patrol in Utah. And then say the same thing about the Purge patrol in Alaska. And say the same thing about anyone else who dares to vote for anyone but the annointed choice of the party leaders and pundits.

There isn't anything to say in those cases.  The winning candidates in those races weren't dishonest grifter frauds like Christine O'Donnell.

>>> While you are far too dishonest to state it explicitly, what you are railing against is the peasantry actually exercising their rights.

Yeah, whatever. 

190 O yeah, against Jan Tang, the guy who was thrown out of the Republican party only two years later for endorsing and contributing to Obama.

Once again I am marveling at O'Donnell's witchlike ability to look into her crystal ball and see the future. 

191 There isn't anything to say in those cases.  The winning candidates in those races weren't dishonest grifter frauds like Christine O'Donnell.

>>> While you are far too dishonest to state it explicitly, what you are railing against is the peasantry actually exercising their rights.

Yeah, whatever. 

Posted by: The War Between the Undead States

 

And thus the rhetorical arts are forever transformed. There most certainly is. The primaries in all three states resulted in thre candidates that qualify for your inane 'purging patrol'. One of the three resulted in the advancement of a very weak candidate. You're very happy to take on and whine about the easy target. As for the other two, the result is rosier, for the moment. Barring an upset, we'll still get a Republican in Utah. As for Alaska, no one can now be certain. The current Senators sure as Hell aren't; that's why they hedged their bets and voted no. In all three cases, an actual primary presented real choices, which incurred in all cases, risk. In the first two, the risk of losing two current R seats. In the third, the one you whine about, the risk was the loss of an opportunity of a flip. What is riskier; gambling with two existing Republican seats or the chance to pick up a Dem seat? Seen from that view, the first two should never have happened; save the money instead by having no primary and milking the incumbent advantage in a red state.

But then that's business as usual.

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