March 05, 2010
— DrewM One less yes vote for ObamaReidPelosi care!
Surely you remember our friend Rep. Eric Massa. I didn't think you can get away with the whole, 'health problems and sexual harassment' thing with a simple retirement in 10 months.
The district he represents in NY is trending Republican but it's likely this whole health care thing will be over one way or another by the time a replacement is seated. So, this is one less yes vote but it also lowers the number necessary to pass the bill. Does that even out in the wash or just lowers the number of 'no' votes Pelosi needs to flip to 'yes'?
Right... [ace] But it's also one gone from the possible no-to-yes list.
More [DrewM.]: Massa's statement
In a statement released Friday, Massa directly addressed the ethics issue for the first time, acknowledging that he used language that might have made staffers uncomfortable. But he did not specifically address any specific sexual harassment allegations.“I own this reality. There is no doubt in my mind that I did in fact, use language in the privacy of my own home and in my inner office that, after 24 years in the Navy, might make a Chief Petty Officer feel uncomfortable,” Massa said. “In fact, there is no doubt that this Ethics issue is my fault and mine alone. But in the incredibly toxic atmosphere that is Washington D.C., with the destruction of our elected leaders having become a blood sport, especially in talk radio and on the internet, there is also no doubt that an Ethics investigation would tear my family and my staff apart.”
That sounds like a little more than some tough language. There are a lot of politicians and high power executives who yell and even degrade subordinates. That usually doesn't fall into the category of tearing one's family apart.
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If he resigns on Monday, won't he still occupy the seat until a new congressperson takes over?
Posted by: Cicero at March 05, 2010 11:43 AM (QKKT0)
Posted by: laceyunderalls at March 05, 2010 11:44 AM (pLTLS)
Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at March 05, 2010 11:44 AM (sF1cH)
Posted by: Andy Sullivan, Vagina Expert and Man About Town at March 05, 2010 11:44 AM (I1/U/)
Posted by: Rocks at March 05, 2010 11:45 AM (Q1lie)
I assume resigned means gone, just like in most jobs.
But I wonder if the Governor can appoint a new Rep.
Posted by: Y-not at March 05, 2010 11:46 AM (Kn9r7)
Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at March 05, 2010 11:46 AM (sF1cH)
Posted by: Brawny Fwank at March 05, 2010 11:46 AM (YCVBL)
Posted by: Y-not at March 05, 2010 03:46 PM (Kn9r7)
The Governor is too busy getting ready to resign himself.
Posted by: Tami at March 05, 2010 11:47 AM (VuLos)
I'm sure his wife faked her pregnancy too.
Posted by: ol_dirty_/b+tard at March 05, 2010 11:47 AM (x065h)
But will he be vilified as much by the MSM as the toe tapper from Idaho?
Is Nancy Pelosi a natural beauty?
Posted by: Buffalobob at March 05, 2010 11:49 AM (XjviO)
Posted by: Massa in damage control mode at March 05, 2010 11:49 AM (RD7QR)
Drew you miss the point. Sure it is one less vote for Obamacare, but now the House only need 216 to pass it instead of 217.
This is bad, not good.
Posted by: Ben at March 05, 2010 11:49 AM (wuv1c)
Does anyone know if the governor can pick a new Rep?
Posted by: Y-not at March 05, 2010 11:50 AM (Kn9r7)
Hmmm. I suppose if he was a solid "yes" it helps... it slides a yes/no further down the calculus, like connect-four.
/dork
Posted by: jdub at March 05, 2010 11:50 AM (t9pKb)
I am guessing the Dems told him to get out, as lowering the vote to 216 was more important., i wonder if any other "on the fence" democrats will resign soon.
And and in Massa's case, Fence is the name of a male staffer
Posted by: Ben at March 05, 2010 11:51 AM (wuv1c)
Posted by: arhooley at March 05, 2010 11:51 AM (2zkIP)
Posted by: And! Sullivan at March 05, 2010 11:51 AM (PWj+8)
Where's enoxo?
I'm too busy making calls (heh, wasted a few cents calling Massa's office about ten minutes ago) to add and subtract.
Posted by: arhooley at March 05, 2010 11:52 AM (2zkIP)
Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at March 05, 2010 11:53 AM (sF1cH)
According to the US Constitution and state law, the governor of the state calls for a special election to replace the vacant House seat. The full election-cycle must be followed including political party nominating processes, primary elections and a general election, all held in the congressional district involved. The entire process often takes as long as from three to six months.
Posted by: Tami at March 05, 2010 11:54 AM (VuLos)
So, I believe it will take a 'yes' vote away from them... BUT... it will also lower the vote requirement back down to 216.
Posted by: enoxo at March 05, 2010 11:54 AM (l0akn)
The NY Governor cannot pick a replacement. Remember when Gillibrand was picked for the Senate the district had to hold an election to choose a replacement.
Posted by: wtfci at March 05, 2010 11:54 AM (+zo63)
Posted by: Sigmund Freud at March 05, 2010 11:56 AM (qzcNU)
Oh hell, you're right. He voted No. This is one less NO vote.
Ace, correction needed.
Posted by: arhooley at March 05, 2010 11:56 AM (2zkIP)
Not to be cruel, but does he have the Elizabeth Edwads/Lockerbie Bomber form of cancer??
Posted by: laceyunderalls at March 05, 2010 11:57 AM (pLTLS)
Posted by: Penfold at March 05, 2010 11:57 AM (1PeEC)
Posted by: Tami at March 05, 2010 11:58 AM (VuLos)
Posted by: arhooley at March 05, 2010 11:58 AM (2zkIP)
Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at March 05, 2010 11:58 AM (sF1cH)
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 05, 2010 11:58 AM (T1boi)
Posted by: flurmf at March 05, 2010 11:59 AM (Xx+86)
Posted by: runningrn at March 05, 2010 11:59 AM (CfmlF)
Posted by: eddiebear at March 05, 2010 12:00 PM (wnU1W)
Posted by: arhooley at March 05, 2010 12:01 PM (2zkIP)
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 05, 2010 12:01 PM (T1boi)
Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at March 05, 2010 12:01 PM (sF1cH)
Posted by: enoxo at March 05, 2010 12:01 PM (l0akn)
Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at March 05, 2010 12:02 PM (sF1cH)
"The Constitution (Article 1, Section 2) provides for the executive to call for an election to fill the seat. "
When's a little thing like the constitution or laws stopped us? NJ? MA?
Posted by: da Dims at March 05, 2010 12:02 PM (ucq49)
Posted by: dagny at March 05, 2010 12:03 PM (2Fcn6)
Posted by: FUBAR at March 05, 2010 12:03 PM (1fanL)
Not to be cruel, but does he have the Elizabeth Edwads/Lockerbie Bomber form of cancer??
no, i think he has nonhodgkins lymphoma, which is quite survivable.
Mario Lemieux had it, survived and continued to play hockey after treatment.
It isn't terminal.
Posted by: Ben at March 05, 2010 12:04 PM (wuv1c)
You're being a Detroit School Board President speller today?
Next call: Steve Dreihaus.
Posted by: arhooley at March 05, 2010 12:04 PM (2zkIP)
Posted by: laceyunderalls at March 05, 2010 12:04 PM (pLTLS)
Massa was a "NO" who would've probably switched to YES. But his leaving is a good for Nancy as a yes, because it means one less vote is required for passage.
Posted by: Buzz at March 05, 2010 12:04 PM (kwhut)
Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at March 05, 2010 12:04 PM (sF1cH)
Posted by: dagny at March 05, 2010 12:04 PM (2Fcn6)
Posted by: flurmf at March 05, 2010 12:04 PM (Xx+86)
Posted by: Ben at March 05, 2010 12:05 PM (wuv1c)
Posted by: FUBAR at March 05, 2010 04:03 PM (1fanL)
His wife will assume the position...
Posted by: conscious and unknowing at March 05, 2010 12:05 PM (Vu6sl)
: Speaking of the bad touch, TMZ is reporting that Big Ben has been accused (but not charged, yet) of sexual assault....again.
another skank looking for a payday. He didn't do it.
He just needs to stop screwing dirty skanks.
Posted by: Ben at March 05, 2010 12:06 PM (wuv1c)
Posted by: stuiec at March 05, 2010 12:06 PM (7AOgy)
Posted by: dagny at March 05, 2010 12:06 PM (2Fcn6)
Posted by: TEE866 at March 05, 2010 12:07 PM (74lR/)
Posted by: arhooley at March 05, 2010 12:07 PM (2zkIP)
Posted by: Concern Christian Creationist Conservative at March 05, 2010 12:08 PM (CfmlF)
He didn't do it.
I'll go ahead and leave that for the authorities to determine. And then a jury of his peers should it get that far.
Posted by: laceyunderalls at March 05, 2010 12:08 PM (pLTLS)
Sherrif Joe is polishing up his star even as we speak.
Posted by: Concern Christian Creationist Conservative at March 05, 2010 12:08 PM (CfmlF)
Next call: Steve Dreihaus.
Corky from Life Goes On...and US Congressman Steve Driehaus for the Ohio 1st District separated at birth..
...you tell me
Posted by: beedubya at March 05, 2010 12:09 PM (AnTyA)
Posted by: dagny at March 05, 2010 12:10 PM (2Fcn6)
Hey, I'm just brining the news. Is she lying--who knows. There's very little known.
But what the hell kind of life choices is he making? This is the second time this has happened....that we are aware of.
My sympathy for Ben? Nonexistent.
Posted by: laceyunderalls at March 05, 2010 12:12 PM (pLTLS)
Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at March 05, 2010 12:13 PM (sF1cH)
Next call: Brad Ellsworth
Posted by: arhooley at March 05, 2010 12:14 PM (2zkIP)
Corky from Life Goes On...and US CongressmanSteve Driehaus for the Ohio 1st District separated at birth..
I used to watch that show with my SIL. Whenever Corky did something stupid, we'd laugh and yell at the screen "What are you, retarded"--we're probably going to Hell for that.
Posted by: Rep. Massa at March 05, 2010 12:14 PM (CfmlF)
Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at March 05, 2010 12:15 PM (sF1cH)
Wasn't Big Ben shtupping Nataie Golbus for a while?
..Jesus..he's really fallen....that metal plate in his head must be fuckin' him up
Posted by: beedubya at March 05, 2010 12:15 PM (AnTyA)
He was on Wesley Clark's staff.
Posted by: AmishDude at March 05, 2010 12:16 PM (T0NGe)
Posted by: dagny at March 05, 2010 04:10 PM (2Fcn6)
Hey, what's with all the hate?
Posted by: Tiger " A Picture of Purity" Woods at March 05, 2010 12:16 PM (Vu6sl)
Posted by: FUBAR at March 05, 2010 04:03 PM (1fanL)
His wife will assume the position...
Conscious, I thought that was the voters of NY--BOHICA!!!!
Posted by: runningrn at March 05, 2010 12:17 PM (CfmlF)
Posted by: dagny at March 05, 2010 04:10 PM (2Fcn6)
Fascinating. What are the others?
Posted by: taking notes at March 05, 2010 12:19 PM (7AOgy)
Posted by: runningrn at March 05, 2010 12:20 PM (CfmlF)
He didn't do it.
I'll go ahead and leave that for the authorities to determine. And then a jury of his peers should it get that far.
It won't ever go to a jury. It will be like the woman in Nevada, she will go after him in civil court. As you know there is no money involved in criminal case, and she's in it for the cash.
Posted by: Ben at March 05, 2010 12:20 PM (wuv1c)
Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at March 05, 2010 12:20 PM (sF1cH)
Posted by: Upscale Community Organizer at March 05, 2010 04:19 PM (IhHdM)
Most ETHANOL Congress ever. Based on blood alcohol concentrations.
Posted by: taking notes at March 05, 2010 12:20 PM (7AOgy)
86 There are multiple reasons to keep your dick in your pants and this is one.
Pewsonally, I pwefew them out!
Posted by: Bawney Fwank at March 05, 2010 12:21 PM (CfmlF)
Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at March 05, 2010 04:20 PM (sF1cH)
In disarry, yes. Done? No, not yet.
Posted by: stuiec at March 05, 2010 12:21 PM (7AOgy)
Wow..this Massa has quite the history of trying to stick his wiener where it doesn't belong
tinyurl.com/ycjdeoa
Posted by: beedubya at March 05, 2010 12:22 PM (AnTyA)
To carry on my monologue, I still don't know how many members there are in the House now.
Posted by: arhooley at March 05, 2010 12:23 PM (2zkIP)
Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at March 05, 2010 12:23 PM (sF1cH)
Posted by: Mike H at March 05, 2010 12:24 PM (V9S2K)
Wow..this Massa has quite the history of trying to stick his wiener where it doesn't belong
Posted by: beedubya at March 05, 2010 04:22 PM (AnTyA)
Mi scusi. Scusi, scusi.
Oh, look! A tunnel just ahead!
Posted by: Creepy Italian guy on Eurotrip train at March 05, 2010 12:24 PM (7AOgy)
I used to watch that show with my SIL. Whenever Corky did something stupid, we'd laugh and yell at the screen "What are you, retarded"--we're probably going to Hell for that.
Was it wrong that I laughed out loud reading that?
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at March 05, 2010 12:25 PM (sXLx/)
This guy gets the golden parachute, I believe. He should get the golden shower.
Posted by: grognard at March 05, 2010 12:25 PM (v0kvW)
Posted by: arhooley at March 05, 2010 12:26 PM (2zkIP)
Wow..this Massa has quite the history of trying to stick his wiener where it doesn't belong
tinyurl.com/ycjdeoa
Posted by: beedubya at March 05, 2010 04:22 PM (AnTyA)
You think this Massa guy has "quite the history?" Pffft. I'll show you some history.
Posted by: William Jefferson Clinton at March 05, 2010 12:26 PM (Vu6sl)
Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at March 05, 2010 12:26 PM (sF1cH)
Posted by: Steve at March 05, 2010 12:26 PM (leC9a)
Posted by: Obama is Carter at March 05, 2010 12:27 PM (tEaHd)
I used to watch that show with my SIL. Whenever Corky did something stupid, we'd laugh and yell at the screen "What are you, retarded"--we're probably going to Hell for that.
Was it wrong that I laughed out loud reading that?
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at March 05, 2010 04:25 PM (sXLx/)
You betcha, it was.
Posted by: Mama Palin at March 05, 2010 12:27 PM (7AOgy)
Posted by: dagny at March 05, 2010 12:27 PM (2Fcn6)
Was it wrong that I laughed out loud reading that?
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at March 05, 2010 04:25 PM (sXLx/)
Did anyone hear you?
Posted by: Conscious, but incoherent at March 05, 2010 12:27 PM (Vu6sl)
Massa voted 'no' in November because he wants single-payer, or a strong public option--not because of political cover. He is a progressive, and a few progressives, such as Dennis Kucinich who voted against the bill (because they weren't required for passage) for a statement.
Massa would have voted 'yes' this time, however. Obama has been trying to woo these progressives to vote 'yes' this time around, saying this is a simple foundation. And without this, we'll never get single-payer--a first step, as it were.
Still, while it is a 'yes' vote gone, it also lowered the total vote goal back down to 216--before Nathan Deal said he wasn't resigning immediately.
Posted by: enoxo at March 05, 2010 12:28 PM (l0akn)
Maybe the cutie was hawt, who knows, Ben's vajayjay addiction will take him to parts unknown by us tea party schlubs.
Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at March 05, 2010 12:29 PM (sF1cH)
Posted by: Steve at March 05, 2010 04:26 PM (leC9a)
They got some crazy little women there and I'm gonna get me one.
Posted by: Little Willie Littlefield at March 05, 2010 12:30 PM (7AOgy)
Massa voted no last time, correct?
Only if Massa were a definite "no" this time would his loss help Pelosi.
Assuming Massa was going to vote "yes" this time (and that seems likely), there is no way that losing his vote HELPS Pelosi.
At best, its neutral since Pelosi now needs one less "yes" vote to carry the bill.
In other words, out of the remaining pool of individuals she needs to either remain a "yes" for the Senate bill, or flip to a "yes" from a "no", the number she needs is the same.
Posted by: looking closely at March 05, 2010 12:30 PM (6Q9g2)
Posted by: laceyunderalls at March 05, 2010 12:31 PM (pLTLS)
Posted by: grognard at March 05, 2010 04:25 PM (v0kvW)
I thought that punishment was supposed to entail something the recipient disliked?
Posted by: Little Willie Littlefield at March 05, 2010 12:32 PM (7AOgy)
you have class little Lady
Did you get that out with a straight face because I certainly had a good giggle! But thanks, I'll pass that along to my Mama. She'll be proud.
Posted by: laceyunderalls at March 05, 2010 12:34 PM (pLTLS)
Posted by: arhooley at March 05, 2010 12:34 PM (2zkIP)
Massa voted no last time, correct?
Only if Massa were a definite "no" this time would his loss help Pelosi.
Assuming Massa was going to vote "yes" this time (and that seems likely), there is no way that losing his vote HELPS Pelosi.
At best, its neutral since Pelosi now needs one less "yes" vote to carry the bill.
In other words, out of the remaining pool of individuals she needs to either remain a "yes" for the Senate bill, or flip to a "yes" from a "no", the number she needs is the same.
Posted by: looking closely at March 05, 2010 04:30 PM (6Q9g2)
It helps Pelosi because it lowers the final vote required back down to 216, instead of at 217.
Posted by: enoxo at March 05, 2010 12:34 PM (l0akn)
With these new details in Massa'a life, there's a whole new meaning to that phrase.
Posted by: CUS at March 05, 2010 12:35 PM (wOGfT)
That sounds like a little more than some tough language.
He didn't say "tough language," he said "language that would make a Chief Petty Officer uncomfortable." I think George Carlin's Seven Words would roll off a Chief's back as compared to, say, "Chief, let me suckle on your winkie."
Posted by: stuiec at March 05, 2010 12:35 PM (7AOgy)
Posted by: arhooley at March 05, 2010 12:38 PM (2zkIP)
113 I wouldn't touch Big Ben's discostick if you gave me one week's worth of his salary. He's an icky, icky boy
You do know he gets abot $13 million per year from the Steelers..plus a few million more in endorsements, right?
..just making sure you have all the info to make a reasoned decision
Posted by: beedubya at March 05, 2010 12:38 PM (AnTyA)
With Massa's "yes" she'd need 217 votes (including his).
Without it, she needs 216 votes.
Unless I'm missing something here, its a wash.
She still has to convince the same number of OTHER House members to vote "yes" as she would have without him.
Posted by: looking closely at March 05, 2010 12:39 PM (6Q9g2)
Posted by: arhooley at March 05, 2010 12:40 PM (2zkIP)
Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at March 05, 2010 12:40 PM (sF1cH)
Posted by: GarandFan at March 05, 2010 12:40 PM (6mwMs)
Massa didn't bring the pork back home, he liked his pork at work.
Eric "Yowsa" Massa in Capitol Thrill
He rammed the Bill through. Bill was not available for comment.
Posted by: Dang at March 05, 2010 12:40 PM (UA4gE)
126 I'm fully aware.
However, I just don't want any part of his scabies. There's not enough Purell in the world....
Posted by: laceyunderalls at March 05, 2010 12:40 PM (pLTLS)
Posted by: arhooley at March 05, 2010 04:38 PM (2zkIP)
Hm, I don't have the figure off the top of my head... I'll have to look around.
Posted by: enoxo at March 05, 2010 12:42 PM (l0akn)
However, I just don't want any part of his scabies. There's not enough Purell in the world....
Posted by: laceyunderalls at March 05, 2010 04:40 PM (pLTLS)
There's always the Spishak Full-Body Condom....
Posted by: stuiec at March 05, 2010 12:43 PM (7AOgy)
Posted by: Former Rep. Massa exiting the Hetero Plantation at March 05, 2010 12:44 PM (CfmlF)
Wow..this Massa has quite the history of trying to stick his wiener where it doesn't belong
tinyurl.com/ycjdeoa
Posted by: beedubya at March 05, 2010 04:22 PM (AnTyA)
You think this Massa guy has "quite the history?" Pffft. I'll show you some history.
Heh, I've got you ALL beat.
Posted by: Bawney's Frank at March 05, 2010 12:44 PM (wRPBa)
"...might make a Chief Petty Officer feel uncomfortable...”
I suppose saying "Hey Chief, I wanna put my cruise missle in your rear hatch" would make a CPO uncomfortable. Not that he said that.
Posted by: Pat at March 05, 2010 12:48 PM (6L8wk)
Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at March 05, 2010 12:48 PM (sF1cH)
Posted by: Pat at March 05, 2010 12:51 PM (6L8wk)
Posted by: Mark Foley at March 05, 2010 12:52 PM (6L8wk)
Please, motherfucker. Don't fucking toot your own goddamn horn. You don't fucking know how to make a Chief Petty Officer uncomfortable - unless you're making a pass at him, that is. We've been making pansy-ass pieces of shit like you blush for at least your 24 years. We OWN ass-chewing, flame-spraying, and just plain break-it-off-in-your-ass. Now shut the fuck up, and do what I tell you, and we'll get along. You are not in charge here, you just represent us. Now, mouth fucking closed, ears fucking open, and I'll tell you what you need to know when you need to know it. Clear, sir?
Posted by: SCPO, USN at March 05, 2010 12:56 PM (1Mn8Z)
CPO's uncomfortable...maybe.
SCPO's uncomfortable...unlikley.
MCPO's uncomfortable...metaphysical impossibility.
Meanwhile...
...there is also no doubt that an Ethics investigation would tear my family and my staff apart.
Smoke. Fire. Some assembly required as this is not even remotely in the ballpark of being a denial.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 05, 2010 12:57 PM (B+qrE)
Posted by: BruceTheRobert at March 05, 2010 12:58 PM (3ZwGl)
Posted by: CoolCzech at March 05, 2010 01:04 PM (9IHmo)
Posted by: 'Nam Grunt
I saw where the MSM covered the supposed Bunning scandal of refusing unanimous consent, more than they covered the actual Rangel situation. Isn't this a pisser?
Posted by: kansas at March 05, 2010 01:09 PM (mka2b)
Posted by: MCPO Airdale at March 05, 2010 01:10 PM (nGBOJ)
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MSM Now
Eric Who?
Posted by: kansas at March 05, 2010 01:12 PM (mka2b)
Posted by: Pat at March 05, 2010 01:13 PM (6L8wk)
Dont be so hard on my good friend, congressman Massa from the great state of NY.... he is clean, light skinned and doesnt have a negro dialect. His wife was unemplyed and beating him... He will be missed.
Posted by: Harry Reid at March 05, 2010 01:15 PM (7GgDy)
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Posted by: ParisParamus at March 05, 2010 02:00 PM (FUnDx)
There is no doubt in my mind that I did in fact, use language in the privacy of my own home and in my inner office that, after 24 years in the Navy, might make a Chief Petty Officer feel uncomfortable
holy shit, what the hell did he say? need a youtube for this!!
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