May 11, 2010
— DrewM He goes to Buckingham Palace to tell the Queen and advise that she call David Cameron and ask him to form a government.
The Conservative-Liberal Democrat coalition will take over.
The questions will be what is the deal that was cut and who gets what Cabinet positions.
The British system is really amazing. Brown and his family left 10 Downing (where they've lived for years) and that's it, they don't go back. They don't have to go home but they can't go back there. Amazing how swiftly it happens.
There was talk that the Conservatives and Lib-Dem might have a fixed term, that is, they promise to vote for a certain number of years with the Conservatives but it seems unlikely that they will be able to make this last very long.
The Lib-Dems seem to be an unruly bunch., How long can Clegg hold them together? It seems the answer will come when we know when the reported referendum on electoral reform is held. It seems once the Lib-Dems get that, they'll want out and test how much they benefit from it (assuming it passes). If it doesn't pass, they'll probably want out then too.
Interesting note: The deal isn't formally done between the Conservatives and the Lib-Dems. The thought was Brown would wait and then resign to continue a continuity of government. Brown seems to have jumped the gun. Bit of pique on the way out the door?
Really freaky part of the Brit system...there's no Prime Minister right now. He resigns, chats for awhile with Liz and then she calls Cameron to pop in. Until then, there's no government. In the US, the President elect becomes President at Noon, whether or not the oath has been taken. There's no second when we don't have a President.
Brown just left the Palace after a 15 minute audience.
Reports are Brown will 'resign' from the House of Commons. Freaky Brit government factoid...you can't resign from the House of Commons. What they do is appoint a member who wants out to one of two BS titles. Since you can't hold a seat in the Commons and a position under the Crown, out you go.
Cameron has 'kissed hands' with the Queen and is now Prime Minister of the United Kingdom.
Sounds like the Conservatives are giving up their tax policy of cutting inheritance taxes and marriage taxes. Instead they will go with the Lib Dems plan of removing taxes on anyone making under 10,000 Pounds.
Full coalition which means Lib Dem ministers.
Strange, strange stuff.
Cameron said in his speech in front of 10 Downing said he thinks the country's "best days are ahead". That's a stock phrase in the US and it's believable. For the UK? Not so much. Great Britain used to rule the world. That's not coming back. Ever.
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Posted by: Truman North at May 11, 2010 10:27 AM (e8YaH)
Posted by: joncelli at May 11, 2010 10:27 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at May 11, 2010 10:28 AM (9hSKh)
While he's at it, he can tell the queen I want my iPod back.
Posted by: Barry Soetero at May 11, 2010 10:28 AM (DrWcr)
Posted by: Doc at May 11, 2010 10:28 AM (WKOg4)
Posted by: LincolnTf at May 11, 2010 10:28 AM (qSRHZ)
Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at May 11, 2010 02:28 PM (9hSKh)
I would bet there will be a new election within a year
Posted by: robtr at May 11, 2010 10:30 AM (fwSHf)
Posted by: nevergiveup at May 11, 2010 10:30 AM (0GFWk)
Posted by: Waterhouse at May 11, 2010 10:31 AM (c7UMz)
Well, there is no Constitutional bar to Gordon Brown someday again leading Labour to a Parliamentary majority and moving back into No. 10. That's because the UK has no Constitution.
Meanwhile, here in the USA, we know that (barring any bizarre circumstances) the Obamas will move out of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue on Jan. 20 of either 2013 or 2017. I suppose the big difference is that we know dates certain for the Obama Administration's "closing time."
Posted by: stuiec at May 11, 2010 10:32 AM (ypM10)
Posted by: nevergiveup at May 11, 2010 02:30 PM (0GFWk)
Your IP address has been captured and traced, and the Dream Police have been dispatched to your location.
Posted by: Barry Soetero's Department of Dreamland Security at May 11, 2010 10:32 AM (DrWcr)
The jealousy, she is overwhelming.
Posted by: Filly at May 11, 2010 10:32 AM (dSJW9)
Posted by: KF at May 11, 2010 10:33 AM (ytCsK)
this is like the Republicans having 50 seats making a deal with Bernie Sanders to elect a senate leader
Posted by: Touché Turtle at May 11, 2010 10:34 AM (uFokq)
Posted by: joncelli at May 11, 2010 10:35 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at May 11, 2010 10:35 AM (9hSKh)
Posted by: David Cameron, on moving day at May 11, 2010 10:35 AM (oHWLY)
This is the thing: The people, the Britons, did not vote for a Lib-Dem govt. They don't want the Lib-Dems in charge or to have a prominent role in the govt.
Cameron, by making this deal, is going against the will of the people.
Posted by: Touché Turtle at May 11, 2010 10:36 AM (uFokq)
What a slap in the face of every citizen. A fucking Monarch in 2010.
No wonder this country is so screwed up. The idea that these masses of different parties should come together and agree on a government seems like a total clusterfuck to me, but it's a valid idea if that's the way they want to go about things.
Doesn't seem to be working, but then, my country isn't perfect either.
A monarch, however is totally intolerable. I would hope all decent people there would completely refuse to acknowledge the legitimacy of their royal element. I would propose a law making it a prison worthy offense to claim any nobility at all.
Posted by: Lex Luthor, Ruler of Australia at May 11, 2010 10:37 AM (dUOK+)
Posted by: Purple Avenger at May 11, 2010 10:38 AM (HF+0P)
And a bust of Churchill. Look over there in the corner. Toy helicopters!!! Hey kids, over here!
Posted by: CUS at May 11, 2010 10:38 AM (wOGfT)
Posted by: Ben at May 11, 2010 10:38 AM (wuv1c)
Vote of no confidence. Call a new election get a majority.
I think that Hannan did not run for Parliament, so he won't have any position. Besides, Cameron doesn't want a guy that smart and that charismatic anywhere near the leadership.
Posted by: AmishDude at May 11, 2010 10:39 AM (T0NGe)
Posted by: Baghdad Bobby Gibbs at May 11, 2010 10:39 AM (RD7QR)
Maybe I'll get an iPod, those corruptors of democracy, with Obama speeches on it one day too! Hip, hip, cheerio!
Posted by: David Cameron at May 11, 2010 10:40 AM (9hSKh)
Their system's worked a lot better than a lot of European republics.
Posted by: Waterhouse at May 11, 2010 10:40 AM (c7UMz)
Probably not. William Hague, the Shadow Foreign Secretary, is the leader of the Conservative negotiating team. Unless he falls on his sword for the team, I doubt he gave away his gig.
Posted by: DrewM. at May 11, 2010 10:40 AM (9B5OK)
Cameron, by making this deal, is going against the will of the people.
Posted by: Touché Turtle at May 11, 2010 02:36 PM (uFokq)
Well, the share of vote won by Labour and the Lib-Dems totalled 52 percent (what a coincidence!), so "the will of the people" is not all that clear-cut. But Cameron is going against the will of the Tory voters -- still, the voters aren't tasked with forming a government and Cameron is.
Posted by: stuiec at May 11, 2010 10:40 AM (7AOgy)
As Homer Simpson said. "Can you tell me again about the part about the thing that you said."
I truly don't understand Parlimentary govt. As someone said, thank God Hamilton saved us from this mess. Not that ours isn't a clusterfark but it's less of a clusterfark then theirs which is saying something.
The only part of their form of governance I like is when they are all yelling at eachother during debate. It's fun to watch.
Posted by: Bruce The Robert at May 11, 2010 10:41 AM (+K1Rv)
Posted by: garrett at May 11, 2010 10:41 AM (HBEWJ)
Posted by: Sean Penn to the rescue at May 11, 2010 10:42 AM (uKraB)
Wonder how long this coalition will last? One year, two? Several months?
Watch for Teh Bamster to cross the Atlantic and show them how it's done. After all, he's always being lauded for his mad consensus building skilz!
Posted by: runningrn at May 11, 2010 10:42 AM (CfmlF)
yeah, but you're equating Labour and the LibDems. They might both be leftists, but they're not exactly the same...technically
Posted by: Touché Turtle at May 11, 2010 10:42 AM (uFokq)
I always thought that James Madison and Edmund Randolph had more to do with our Constitution which was developed from their Virgina Plan.
Posted by: Vic at May 11, 2010 10:43 AM (6taRI)
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at May 11, 2010 10:43 AM (7VvJB)
Posted by: ncj on his htc at May 11, 2010 10:44 AM (1ccx7)
This will never work. Mercury is still retro.
Posted by: Rachel Maddow at May 11, 2010 10:44 AM (SVZM2)
Posted by: dagny at May 11, 2010 10:44 AM (C/W+T)
Posted by: Johnnyreb at May 11, 2010 10:45 AM (WGcw3)
I asked an English guy on my soccer team to explain to me Cricket. He said that was impossible in any amount of time under three hours, and just consider Cricket to be a good way to waste a Sunday afternoon drinking beer.
I have a feeling explaining this Parliamentary govt. would warrant the same response.
Posted by: CUS at May 11, 2010 10:45 AM (wOGfT)
Posted by: nevergiveup at May 11, 2010 02:30 PM (0GFWk)
Your IP address has been captured and traced, and the Dream Police have been dispatched to your location.
Posted by: Deputy Hanover Fiste at May 11, 2010 10:45 AM (mtVp8)
Posted by: AmishDude at May 11, 2010 10:45 AM (T0NGe)
That's what I figure. We'll see.
Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at May 11, 2010 10:46 AM (9hSKh)
Meanwhile, here in the USA, we know that (barring any bizarre circumstances) the Obamas will move out of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue on Jan. 20 of either 2013 or 2017. I suppose the big difference is that we know dates certain for the Obama Administration's "closing time."
HA! HA! HA! HA!!1111!! YOU WINGNUTS ARE SO FUNNY! (wipes tear from eye). WE WON11!!11 BARACK'S NOT GOING ANY WHERE!!11!! You're going to love our new Constitution...
Posted by: Evil Lefty Jackboot at May 11, 2010 10:46 AM (CfmlF)
Posted by: Jean at May 11, 2010 10:47 AM (JaO+v)
I just done watching the GORDON BROWN show on CNN, and it's being run in syndication on MSNBC.
All this talk about bigots makes me hungry for some black forest ham.
Posted by: gus at May 11, 2010 10:47 AM (Vqruj)
I asked an English guy on my soccer team to explain to me Cricket. He said that was impossible in any amount of time under three hours, and just consider Cricket to be a good way to waste a Sunday afternoon drinking beer.
It's like baseball, except it's played with two bases and a home run gets you 6 points. You bat until the bowler knocks down the wicket behind you, no matter how many balls, strikes, or hits you get. There's no foul ground.
An Innings is the time it takes each batter fom each team to lose their wicket
Posted by: Truman North at May 11, 2010 10:47 AM (e8YaH)
Posted by: dagny at May 11, 2010 10:49 AM (C/W+T)
Posted by: joncelli at May 11, 2010 10:49 AM (RD7QR)
Then for the grand pause between "governments" perhaps the monarchy prevails, in mood at least?
Posted by: maverick muse at May 11, 2010 10:49 AM (H+LJc)
Can she say, "No, get your ass back in there"?
Posted by: HeatherRadish at May 11, 2010 10:51 AM (mR7mk)
Posted by: joncelli at May 11, 2010 10:51 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Jean at May 11, 2010 10:51 AM (PjevJ)
Posted by: Truman North at May 11, 2010 10:51 AM (e8YaH)
Posted by: gus at May 11, 2010 10:52 AM (Vqruj)
Posted by: Tammy Lickalot from Brattleboro, VT at May 11, 2010 10:53 AM (SZy+Y)
Posted by: Jean at May 11, 2010 10:53 AM (PjevJ)
As it's been said before: Thank you James Madison.
Posted by: John P. Squibob at May 11, 2010 10:53 AM (/U/Mr)
Posted by: strap-ondragon at May 11, 2010 10:53 AM (Mmw0q)
Posted by: Unclefacts, AoSHQ Professional Debate Team at May 11, 2010 10:54 AM (erIg9)
UK politics...further proof that liberalism is a world-wild pandemic of epidemic proportions and that understanding the parliamantarian form of rule is akin to understanding the theory of the Time/Space continuum.
Posted by: dananjcon at May 11, 2010 10:54 AM (pr+up)
"Hey, DVDs!"
Awww, bugger. None of them play. Oh well.
*pulls one out of the case, sets it on the side-table, then places his drink atop it*
Posted by: reason at May 11, 2010 10:55 AM (kZVsz)
Posted by: Kim Jung Il at May 11, 2010 10:55 AM (CfmlF)
Posted by: dagny at May 11, 2010 10:55 AM (C/W+T)
Posted by: Buster Hymand at May 11, 2010 10:55 AM (SZy+Y)
Posted by: snap dragqueen at May 11, 2010 10:56 AM (Vqruj)
Posted by: Doc at May 11, 2010 10:57 AM (WKOg4)
Posted by: Reggie Jackson at May 11, 2010 10:57 AM (Mmw0q)
Posted by: Dr. Varno at May 11, 2010 10:57 AM (QMtmy)
Posted by: Jean at May 11, 2010 10:58 AM (JaO+v)
Posted by: Truman North at May 11, 2010 10:58 AM (e8YaH)
"A monarch, however is totally intolerable. I would hope all decent people there would completely refuse to acknowledge the legitimacy of their royal element. I would propose a law making it a prison worthy offense to claim any nobility at all."
But it was fine with Da Ebil Boosh was doing it, wingers!
Posted by: suckdragon at May 11, 2010 10:59 AM (kZVsz)
Posted by: Kim Jung Il at May 11, 2010 10:59 AM (CfmlF)
25 He resigns to a fucking monarch and asks her to call for a new government.
What a slap in the face of every citizen. A fucking Monarch in 2010.
I'm pretty sure he's just following about 400 years of precedent there. Since about the time of Olilver Cromwell or so.
Posted by: penejo grande at May 11, 2010 10:59 AM (JHZ+N)
When I happen to surf onto Sky Sports when they're talking Cricket games, I wonder if they're speaking the same language.
Posted by: CUS at May 11, 2010 10:59 AM (wOGfT)
Posted by: Liz Windsor, bitch-slapping Gordo at May 11, 2010 11:00 AM (c7UMz)
The "pitch" (area where the bowler and batsman operate) is a rigidly defined area dimensionally, the rest of the field can be shaped/sized randomly to suit local conditions.
Points are scored by running back and forth between the wickets. Each iteration scores. A side keeps batting until every player has been gotten out.
If the bowler (the guy whipping the ball like a baseball pitcher) knocks some dowel like thingies off the wicket you as a batter are defending, then you're out. There's all kind of oddball tosses just like in baseball, fastballs, curves, knuckle ball variations, even bouncing the ball off the dirt is acceptable.
The fielders are much like baseball infield/outfield players. They field the ball when its hit and fling it back in towards the pitch area.
There you go, Cricket in a nutshell and it didn't take 3 hours.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at May 11, 2010 11:01 AM (HF+0P)
Tolerance, green, blah blah blah
translation.....
Arabs and crooks......
Nice words about military, but not a word about terrorism in England.
Anita Dunn in the "house" with Cameron....
Why?????
Posted by: non_dhimmie at May 11, 2010 11:03 AM (zACGu)
Isn't this the sport of broke people? It's like soccer. You just need a ball and players.
Posted by: wtfci at May 11, 2010 11:03 AM (+zo63)
Posted by: ziptie at May 11, 2010 11:04 AM (lLS3Y)
Posted by: logprof at May 11, 2010 11:05 AM (Mmw0q)
That's because they have no separate Executive branch, to speak of. The royals are the permanent Executive and the European systems were developed with parliaments just taking powers from those permanent Executives and then piling those powers in the corner of the room, with no real organization or limits. That is the main difference between our individualistic, limited, Constitutional structure and all of the crappy, unlimited, unstructured party-oriented parliamentary systems that the rest of the world has.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at May 11, 2010 11:05 AM (Qp4DT)
The Queen comes running full-bore out of Buckingham Palace like a toddler at a skate rink and starts slashing and hacking at Gordon Brown's cardboard-like motionless torso with a kick-ass folding blade while screaming "21 foot rule my ass, you one-eyed cocksucker!" in 5, 4, 3, 2...
Posted by: Dang at May 11, 2010 11:06 AM (UA4gE)
Openers Michael Lumb (32 off 21 balls) and Craig Kieswetter powered England off to yet another purposeful start with a 24-run stand off just 16 balls.
Kieswetter, who hit Nathan McCullum for a four and a towering six in the first over of the chase, perished for 15 off 12 balls when he slapped Kyle Mills straight to the off-spinner at cover point.
Ravi Bopara (nine) failed to take the chance presented to him through Kevin Pietersen's absence when he fell in similar fashion off the medium-pace of Scott Styris.
The England wobble continued when Lumb was trapped lbw sweeping Daniel Vettori (1-24) three balls later, and Paul Collingwood's poor form continued when he chipped Styris tamely to midwicket.
But Morgan and Wright, who shared a 95-run partnership against the Windies in Guyana, brilliantly put the chase back on track.
The pair added 52 in 38 balls before Wright, who had bludgeoned three fours in his 17-ball knock, hooked Shane Bond (2-29) straight to Mills on the square-leg fence.
Morgan continued to torment the Kiwi bowlers but perished to Bond - and a diving catch from Vettori - with England eight runs short of victory.
Posted by: CUS at May 11, 2010 11:06 AM (wOGfT)
Posted by: progressoverpeace at May 11, 2010 03:05 PM (Qp4DT)
Doesn't Liberia have the same representative Republic that the USA has?
Posted by: Hobo Liberation Front at May 11, 2010 11:07 AM (LdYLm)
Remember, oh, about 180 days ago when Gordon Dunce Brown said the world had 60 days to agree on an environmental policy or it would be too late to save the planet?
Remember that? Hahahaha, what a guy. Can't believe people take that shitstain Brown seriously.
Posted by: Touché Turtle at May 11, 2010 11:07 AM (uFokq)
Posted by: Reggie Jackson at May 11, 2010 02:57 PM (Mmw0q)
STRRRRRRRIIIIKKKKKKE THREE YOUR OUTTA HERE!
Posted by: Frank Drebbin at May 11, 2010 11:08 AM (pr+up)
Posted by: Dr. Varno at May 11, 2010 11:08 AM (QMtmy)
I'm pretty sure he's just following about 400
years of precedent there. Since about the time of Olilver Cromwell or
so.
Posted by: penejo grande at May 11, 2010 02:59 PM (JHZ+N)"
And it's wrong.
We do stupid things for hundreds of years sometimes. Government derives her mandate from the consent of the governed, not some fucking King or Princess or rock in the mud.
And this is indeed part of the reason the people's will is not going to be honored. They don't want the government they are about to get. It's a serious issue to some. I realize people get to vote on representation, but this is still a serious breach of the basic concept I find to be absolute.
Posted by: Lex Luthor, Ruler of Australia at May 11, 2010 11:09 AM (dUOK+)
Doesn't Liberia have the same representative Republic that the USA has?
Posted by: Hobo Liberation Front at May 11, 2010 03:07 PM (LdYLm)
Probably. The Phillipines do, also. I should have said "that just about the rest of the world has". I usually do say that, but sometimes I get tired.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at May 11, 2010 11:09 AM (Qp4DT)
Another working class sport for people who ain't right in the head. Don't get me started on Aussie Rules Football. Entertaining as all hell, and only about 14 rules.
So, your saying I would rock at that sport as well. Cool - but I think I'll stick to making the Yankees look silly.
Only if you can "bowl" the ball without bending your arm.
Posted by: CUS at May 11, 2010 11:10 AM (wOGfT)
Posted by: Reggie Jackson at May 11, 2010 02:57 PM (Mmw0q)
STRRRRRRRIIIIKKKKKKE THREE YOUR OUTTA HERE!
Posted by: Frank Drebbin at May 11, 2010 03:08 PM (pr+up)
Hey Look! It's Enrico Pallazzo!
Posted by: Man in Stadium Crowd at May 11, 2010 11:10 AM (LdYLm)
I always thought that James Madison and Edmund Randolph had more to do with our Constitution which was developed from their Virgina Plan.
Posted by: Vic
The pity remains that Jefferson was not "drawn" to economics amongst the many topics facing our nation's founders.
"Jefferson Contra Hamilton: Too Tame, Too Late," by Albert Jay Nock at mises.org 4-22-10.--"Jefferson knew economics. He stood by the bedside of its birth in Paris; he knew its parents and godparents, both personally and by their writings. Yet he did not know what manner of child had been brought forth...
Others, however, almost immediately applied to Hamilton's system a kind of homespun economic analysis that reached to its bottom. In dealing with funding and assumption, Rep. John Francis Mercer of Maryland, Rep. James Jackson of Georgia, and Sen. John Taylor of Virginia at once penetrated to the fundamental truth that all largesse to the speculator must ultimately be paid out of production, and that Hamilton's proposal therefore was actually to put a gratuitous first lien on future labor. They also took the same ground of public policy in opposing the bank bill.
The bank project was simply a continuous monopoly of public funds, raised by taxation, by investors in a semiprivate corporation — or rather, nominally semipublic but really private, since so large a proportion of the Senate and House were themselves investors who had already profited egregiously by funding and assumption, and who would certainly become shareholders in the new bank. All this, they insisted, was to be brought about at the uncompensated expense of production.
A levy of taxes for this purpose was, according to Taylor, an outright conversion of labor-made values into law-made property, vested in hands which had done nothing to produce them. "An annuity to a great amount is suddenly conjured up by law," said Taylor.
It is paid out of labour, and labour in all countries falls on the poor.Â… But the aristocracy, as cunning as rapacious, have contrived to inflict upon labour a tax, constantly working for their emolument.
Posted by: maverick muse at May 11, 2010 11:10 AM (H+LJc)
I think Cricket bowlers are required to throw with a locked elbow. The mechanics of a toss would be quite different than for a baseball pitcher.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at May 11, 2010 11:11 AM (HF+0P)
STRRRRRRRIIIIKKKKKKE THREE YOUR OUTTA HERE!
Posted by: Frank Drebbin Enrico Palazzo at May 11, 2010 03:08 PM (pr+up)
Posted by: logprof at May 11, 2010 11:11 AM (Mmw0q)
Posted by: Sticky Wicket at May 11, 2010 11:11 AM (7VvJB)
Posted by: BillySims at May 11, 2010 11:12 AM (ngD76)
Posted by: bulwark at May 11, 2010 11:12 AM (1gKSn)
Doesn't Liberia have the
same representative Republic that the USA has?
Posted by: Hobo Liberation Front at May 11, 2010 03:07 PM (LdYLm)
Probably. The Phillipines do, also. I should
have said "that just about the rest of the world has". I usually do
say that, but sometimes I get tired.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at May 11, 2010 03:09 PM (Qp4DT)
I wouldn't be the leader of the Hobo Liberation Front unless I had an eye for details.
Posted by: Hobo Liberation Front at May 11, 2010 11:13 AM (LdYLm)
Posted by: Racefan at May 11, 2010 11:13 AM (URJCD)
Not to worry, folks. E.J. Dionne wrote an article saying that Cameron did the smart thing and moved the conservatives the great and grand center. It's what all smart conservative leaders do, according to Dionne, and it's why the Republican party here will implode.
E.J. Dionne. Prophet. Political genius. Incontinent.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 11, 2010 11:17 AM (P33XN)
Posted by: Jean at May 11, 2010 11:17 AM (JaO+v)
Posted by: Confused libturd at May 11, 2010 11:18 AM (Mmw0q)
Yeah, very sore-loserish sounding to me. The original story was that he would resign in September as Labour leader (and, of course, step down as PM when the government is formed). Maybe he's trying to force Cameron's hand, thinking that whoever forms the government is in for a world of hurt. I'm not sure about that. I never believe in winning by losing. If Cameron is deft, he can manipulate the situation to his favor.
Posted by: AmishDude at May 11, 2010 11:19 AM (T0NGe)
Clarkson's an anti-American f*ckhole.
Is it too late to re-animate the corpse of Churchill?
Posted by: Waterhouse at May 11, 2010 11:21 AM (c7UMz)
Really freaky part of the Brit system...there's no Prime Minister right now. He resigns, chats for awhile with Liz and then she calls Cameron to pop in. Until then, there's no government. In the US, the President elect becomes President at Noon, whether or not the oath has been taken. There's no second when we don't have a President.I
I don't find that freaky at all. In fact, I find the fact that some do to be a revealing glimpse of how far we've fallen in America. For a free people and nation to be without a government or chief executive temporarily should be no problem at all. The federal government doesn't charter the county governments or the citizenry, it's the other way around. Government has (or should have) only the powers it's people delegate to it, so if those powers temporarily go undelegated, so what? The world still turns, and people still stop at stoplights. Continuity of government may have become a practical necessity in the cold war, but that's still no reason to make a fetish of great men or dear leaders and elevate them beyond their worth.
Posted by: Dave R. at May 11, 2010 11:22 AM (1bbZV)
Actually, the one I saw was closer to a MLB ball (leather wrapped), only with one seam across the equator.
Posted by: CUS at May 11, 2010 11:23 AM (wOGfT)
Posted by: fartbubble at May 11, 2010 11:23 AM (gAmQ1)
Posted by: Michelle Obama, newly elected Spice Girl of England at May 11, 2010 11:24 AM (mR7mk)
"We do stupid things for hundreds of years sometimes. Government derives her mandate from the consent of the governed, not some fucking King or Princess or rock in the mud."
What is your take on watery tarts passing out swords?
Posted by: reason at May 11, 2010 11:24 AM (F26eZ)
You seem to have completely missed the bit where Brown stepped down because he lost the consent of the governed.
Posted by: Waterhouse at May 11, 2010 11:25 AM (c7UMz)
Posted by: Mike Hunt at May 11, 2010 11:26 AM (SZy+Y)
Posted by: dfbaskwill at May 11, 2010 11:27 AM (usjNq)
Splitter.
Posted by: popular front for the liberation of hobos at May 11, 2010
03:20 PM (4WbTI)
See ya and raise ya
Posted by: People's Front for the Liberation of Hobos at May 11, 2010 11:28 AM (LdYLm)
"But not your bacon butties, fat-asses."
Not unless you pay the penance of three cans of vegamite.
Posted by: reason at May 11, 2010 11:28 AM (F26eZ)
Their platform is big on all of the things that suck, really.
We'll see if they've actually agreed over which portfolios they get, and how much tussling remains.
None of the party leaders come out of this election smelling particularly good.
The LibDems lost a bunch of seats; they're in the government, though, and making some kind of deal was probably Clegg's last chance to hold on.
Cameron tried to be the Teddy-Bear Tory with lots of that, uh, compassionate conservatism, all it really got him was a bunch of voters who couldn't see enough daylight between the Conservatives and Labour to matter so some drifted back, just enough went UKIP to hurt (the UKIP candidate stole just enough votes to prevent the unhorsing of the egregious Ed Balls.)
And, of course the one-eyed Scottish idiot is now on his way back to the north.
Posted by: mrkwong at May 11, 2010 11:29 AM (G8Eo0)
Posted by: Jean at May 11, 2010 11:29 AM (PjevJ)
"It's funneh when AoS commenters Waterhose and Firehose comment in the same thread."
Do we amuse you?
Posted by: Earthhose at May 11, 2010 11:30 AM (F26eZ)
Posted by: snap dragqueen at May 11, 2010 11:31 AM (Vqruj)
Posted by: Fritz at May 11, 2010 11:31 AM (GwPRU)
"Waterhouse"
Cut him some slack. This is a thread about England. Usage of u's is fast and loouse. It is the neighbourly thing tou dou.
Posted by: reason at May 11, 2010 11:32 AM (F26eZ)
Posted by: bill-tb at May 11, 2010 11:32 AM (y+QfZ)
Posted by: snap dragqueen at May 11, 2010 11:33 AM (Vqruj)
If it ends with "walk into a bar..."
Posted by: CUS at May 11, 2010 11:33 AM (wOGfT)
Gold just blew right threw the record, $1230 baby!
Speculation. What can you do with gold?
Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at May 11, 2010 11:35 AM (9hSKh)
Any chance that that Hannan guy from the European Parliament (ugh...) will get a meaningful post with this Admin.? That would be a cool side effect.
None whatsoever. The two parliaments are entirely separate beasts. The European parliament isn't even all that powerful, given how much authority the EU's bureaucrats wield. I agree Daniel Hannan is a cool guy, but this is like asking if some Republican US Senator will be given an executive job in his home state when a Republican governor is elected. Except the gulf is even wider. The answer is, not only "no," but that it wouldn't even occur to anybody.
Posted by: Dave R. at May 11, 2010 11:35 AM (1bbZV)
Posted by: Mike Hunt at May 11, 2010 11:36 AM (SZy+Y)
Posted by: Charlie Gibson, gazing condescendingly from over his readers at May 11, 2010 11:36 AM (F26eZ)
Or will Cameron have to call Bambi and remind him that the UK still exists?
Posted by: Doc at May 11, 2010 11:36 AM (WKOg4)
The people of the wet turd isle have spoken, and they asked for change!
Congratulations to the English people!
Posted by: Sheriff Joe Biden at May 11, 2010 11:37 AM (Mmw0q)
What Cameron should do is try to get something through Parliament
that is wildly popular but opposed by the Lib Dems and Labour.
Wrong: EU referendum.
In fact, that is the only way to keep Britain from continuing irrevocably down its road to serfdom.
Posted by: someone at May 11, 2010 11:38 AM (2y1Su)
Posted by: Barack Obama at May 11, 2010 11:38 AM (SZy+Y)
Attract women.
Posted by: Waterhouse at May 11, 2010 03:36 PM (c7UMz)
Excellent plan! When do we attack?
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at May 11, 2010 11:38 AM (RkRxq)
Hey, DVDs!
Posted by: David
Cameron, on moving day at May 11, 2010 02:35 PM (oHWLY)
Sucker. They're region 1.
Posted by: Gordon Brown, moving on at May 11, 2010 11:39 AM (LtIsn)
This will never work. Mercury is still retro.
Posted by: Rachel Maddow at May 11, 2010 02:44 PM (SVZM2)
A '47 Mercury is really retro!
Posted by: stuiec at May 11, 2010 11:39 AM (7AOgy)
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Posted by: Racefan at May 11, 2010 11:40 AM (URJCD)
Posted by: Doc at May 11, 2010 11:41 AM (WKOg4)
Posted by: mesablue at May 11, 2010 11:42 AM (sl3Ei)
Yeah. That's pretty big.
Posted by: Waterhouse at May 11, 2010 11:42 AM (c7UMz)
Posted by: nikkolai at May 11, 2010 11:42 AM (U0lNn)
Well, its a restricted audit, so it means nothing. Funny how they were going for a full audit and right before the vote all the liquidity drained from the market and the DOW fell 1000 points. All of a sudden, its now a restricted audit. Its almost as if there was some manipulation, but thats just crazy talk.
Posted by: Sticky Wicket at May 11, 2010 11:43 AM (7VvJB)
He's loading him an I-Pod full of distractions as we speak.
Posted by: low hanging fruit at May 11, 2010 11:43 AM (4WbTI)
Posted by: snapdragon at May 11, 2010 11:44 AM (5Etcj)
I think that's Rahm's job, since Barry's admitted he's too stupid to figure it out.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at May 11, 2010 11:44 AM (mR7mk)
"Our country is more open at home and more compassionate abroad, and that is a good thing." [paraphrased]
This is a conservative? Okey doke ... And they wonder why they didn't get a majority.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at May 11, 2010 11:44 AM (Qp4DT)
Posted by: Lady in Black (Formerly Twinks until I found out what it really meant) at May 11, 2010 11:45 AM (VYKgG)
Posted by: mesablue at May 11, 2010 03:42 PM (sl3Ei)
--Carbon credits
Posted by: logprof at May 11, 2010 11:45 AM (Mmw0q)
V Baker wouldn't let him.
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at May 11, 2010 11:46 AM (7VvJB)
Posted by: Doc at May 11, 2010 11:46 AM (WKOg4)
<blockquote>Haggis is always a consolation.
I thought Haggis went away because of Mad Cow.
Posted by: CUS at May 11, 2010 03:29 PM (wOGfT) </blockquote>
Haggis is made from sheep not cattle.
Sheep don't care how mad the cows get.
Speaking of sheep, Cameron is an AGW believer. He is as green or greener than Brown. (That's what Dionne means by center, he means LEFT). Cameron is John McCain's politics with John Kerry's personality. This coalition will fall apart in one year, there will be another election, and thanks to the press the Tories will get the blame. The real election story is what happened to Scotland. While Conservatives were picking up seats everywhere else, they lost seats in Scotland. Clegg? He's an idiot. Charming, but an idiot. Clegg's big deal is public housing - putting families into one bedroom houses. Families. One bedroom. Back in the USSR...
The gov't will look something like John McCain with Ralph Nader. Now I've got to go drink an early martini to get that image out of my brain.
Posted by: Carmelita at May 11, 2010 11:47 AM (gq1Fx)
Posted by: mesablue at May 11, 2010 03:42 PM (sl3Ei)
its kinda like why they dont carry guns. they yell STOP. Or I will yell STOP again.
Posted by: Racefan at May 11, 2010 11:47 AM (URJCD)
I'm so confused. Where were the "dramatic" pauses? Where was the chin-thrust?
Posted by: Waterhouse at May 11, 2010 11:48 AM (c7UMz)
I'm so confused. Where were the "dramatic" pauses? Where was the chin-thrust?
Where's the "uh... uh..."?
Posted by: Doc at May 11, 2010 11:48 AM (WKOg4)
Posted by: joncelli at May 11, 2010 11:51 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Carmelita at May 11, 2010 03:47 PM (gq1Fx)
After listening to that speech, I wouldn't be surprised if this government didn't fall one week after it's finally put together.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at May 11, 2010 11:51 AM (Qp4DT)
Posted by: yes, minister at May 11, 2010 11:51 AM (7VvJB)
"Our country is more open at home and more compassionate abroad, and that is a good thing." [paraphrased]
This is a conservative? Okey doke ... And they wonder why they didn't get a majority.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at May 11, 2010 03:44 PM (Qp4DT)
No, Cameron is in no way a conservative. On the American scale he's a leftish Democrat. He's not even conservative on the British scale.
Posted by: Gordon Brown, moving on at May 11, 2010 11:53 AM (LtIsn)
Yes. IIRC, one of the original thoughts as to the origins of Mad Cow was that the cows were fed sheep parts. Haggis is made from sheep parts. No Haggis for you.
Posted by: CUS at May 11, 2010 11:53 AM (wOGfT)
The UK is so boned.
Posted by: Waterhouse at May 11, 2010 11:56 AM (c7UMz)
Posted by: Doc at May 11, 2010 03:48 PM (WKOg4)
..........................
uhhhhhhhhhhhhh............ and let me be clear. what a fucking jerk our Jugeared leader is.
Posted by: Racefan at May 11, 2010 11:57 AM (URJCD)
Posted by: joncelli at May 11, 2010 03:51 PM (RD7QR)
--I know in Canada there has to be an election called within two years if it's a Minority Government.
Posted by: logprof at May 11, 2010 12:00 PM (Mmw0q)
Posted by: Doc at May 11, 2010 12:01 PM (WKOg4)
They're talking about four years.
Posted by: Waterhouse at May 11, 2010 12:01 PM (c7UMz)
The BBC initially said he was going to step aside, but have since rescinded that claim. He is no longer the head of the Labour party though.
Posted by: Doc at May 11, 2010 12:13 PM (WKOg4)
Cameron - who wasn't the strongest conservative to begin with - is diluting some of the very things the electorate liked in order to deal with the LibDems.
Britain will NEVER get back on its feet unless there's some relief from the crushing taxes and bankrupting benefits programmes.
If LibDem/Labour had put together a deal it would have shattered inside of 6 months with a new election being called. Cameron's service will be at the mercy of the LibDems and it comes at a time when Britain needs some drastic reforms. The reform-lite that Cameron will now probably enact won't help a whit and the Tories will be blamed and ousted from power at the next opportunity. This is what I fear and I hope to God I am wrong.
Posted by: Linlithgow at May 11, 2010 12:20 PM (xpBkP)
Posted by: Doc at May 11, 2010 04:01 PM (WKOg4)
Buns or boobs?
Posted by: stuiec at May 11, 2010 12:29 PM (7AOgy)
1. His wife, even while pregnant, looks willowy and graceful and knows how to dress appropriately, which will infuriate the First Wookie.
2. Obama didn't want him to win.
3. His speech, while thanking Gordon Brown, was very clear about the trouble the country is facing, and he talked about responsibility, working, freedom, and keeping families together. It's been a while since we heard that from Britain.
4. He speaks without a teleprompter, which is going to make Obama look bad.
So, being the optimist I am, I will wait to see what he does.
Posted by: Miss Marple (redneck teabagger) at May 11, 2010 12:29 PM (xxe/9)
Posted by: ahem at May 11, 2010 12:35 PM (uTLEF)
I have called PM Cameron to congradulate him and as a special treat sent him a DVD of all my speeches. This should impress him with my uh...uh...speaking uh...uh... skills.
Posted by: Barack Obama at May 11, 2010 12:36 PM (SZy+Y)
Ought to chafe the left a little, tee hee.
Posted by: mrkwong at May 11, 2010 12:36 PM (G8Eo0)
Posted by: Doc at May 11, 2010 04:01 PM (WKOg4)
Buns or boobs?
Looked like a 'lil boob action to me as he was reaching to hug her.
Posted by: Doc at May 11, 2010 12:38 PM (WKOg4)
I suppose it would be crass to suggest that we should be thankful he didn't go for the Queen.
Posted by: mrkwong at May 11, 2010 12:49 PM (G8Eo0)
Posted by: Barack Obama at May 11, 2010 01:03 PM (SZy+Y)
CUS, the cows were fed sheep parts?!? I'd get mad, too. And thanks but you could get me to eat mad cows before I'd touch haggis.
And to think we feed our cattle hay. Never thought to give meat to an herbivore without the proper disgestive system to use it. Those crazy brits.
Cameron is a large C Conservative, not a small c conservative. He has almost no conservative values. For those of us who wanted McCain to win, if we want to know how that would have turned out just watch the UK. It falls into the 'careful what you wish for' category. It remains to be seen if he has the stomach for the type of fiscal reforms the Brits need.
Posted by: Carmelita at May 11, 2010 01:31 PM (gq1Fx)
Posted by: CoolCzech at May 11, 2010 02:09 PM (9IHmo)
Posted by: eaglewingz08 at May 11, 2010 02:28 PM (dv8zz)
Give the Lib Dems some 'touchy-feely' cabinet posts, and make some changes that will get the country turned around. Then next election you might be given a true majority to really fix things.
Posted by: Oldcat at May 11, 2010 02:42 PM (z1N6a)
They benefited this cycle from both a generalized exhaustion with Labour and a specific distaste for Mr Brown.
If somehow the Tories let power fall back in Labour's lap there is the chance that party might find a leader that clicks with the public, which combined with a 'what, going to the polls AGAIN?' sentiment might be enough to muddy the waters still further in a subsequent election this year.
Most of the LibDems' customary sort of left issues - kissing up to the EU, immigration, etc - smell bad to the voters right now (they LOST seats in this election, after all) and so they're hardly in a position to walk out over, say, tighter immigration controls lest they give the Tories a real majority. And even the Conservatives haven't been in any rush to throw out Labour's greenie/warmist nonsense.
So long as the Tories can hide behind the LibDems on tax policy and public services issues, make sure Clegg's crew can't ease away and point fingers at the Conservatives when things get painful, Cameron will have the whip hand on other matters, for a while at least.
Posted by: mrkwong at May 11, 2010 03:09 PM (G8Eo0)
It's pitiful really. The British Empire in its day was, well, an empire. Now, it's a bunch of scruffy people with charming accents who have their hands full running an island. A fairly small island at that. They are being eaten out of house & home by the invading muslim welfare-entitled horde who bring dozens of wives (illegal but nobody dares say anything to them), hundreds of children, and they're all busy making sure they don't offend the invaders. Or fight back when they are attacked on the street or in their homes.
I don't get it.
Posted by: Boots at May 11, 2010 03:27 PM (06JTY)
25 He resigns to a fucking monarch and asks her to call for a new government.
What a slap in the face of every citizen. A fucking Monarch in 2010.
Asking the Queen is all ceremonial, it means nothing. Kinda like Obama's oath to protect and defend the Constitution.
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