December 07, 2010
— Genghis Updated and bumped: Assange denied bail by magistrate and jailed pending extradition hearing. Again, from CNN:
"London (CNN) -- WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange handed himself over to police Tuesday, promptly appeared in court where he was denied bail, and left for jail in a police van. A judge will now decide whether to extradite him to Sweden to face questioning over allegations he had sexual relations with two women without their consent. He has not been charged with a crime.""The judge at the City of Westminster Magistrate's Court ordered Assange jailed until December 14, despite several celebrities coming forward and offering to pay his surety, or bail. It was not immediately clear if the court would decide on that date whether to release him. The judge repeatedly said the case is "not about WikiLeaks," but about serious sexual offenses that allegedly occurred on three occasions with two women."
Maybe they're just funnin' with him. Still not sure if it's flaming skull-worthy, but getting closer. Original post below the fold.
(Almost flaming skull worthy. I'll leave that for others to decide)
It's on the allegations of rape and other sexual misconduct in Sweden, not anything involving WikiLeaks, but at least it's a start. From CNN:
"London (CNN) -- WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange was arrested Tuesday in London on a Swedish warrant, London's Metropolitan Police said. Assange was arrested at a London police station at 9:30 a.m. (4:30 a.m. ET) and will appear at the City of Westminster Magistrate's Court later in the day, police said."
Original Post:Swedish authorities had issued the warrant for Assange so they can talk to him about sex-crime allegations unrelated to WikiLeaks' recent disclosure of secret U.S. documents. Assange's British lawyer, Mark Stephens, said his client would fight extradition to Sweden, according to Britain's Press Association."
Of course he's playing up the "victim" card here and claiming this is all persecution for his brave stand for...well, whatever it is he thinks he's bravely standing for:
"Assange, a 39-year-old Australian, has said he has long feared retribution for his website's disclosures and has called the rape allegations against him a smear campaign."
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Posted by: maverick muse at December 07, 2010 03:13 AM (H+LJc)
He's provided proof positive about what a bitch Hillary is.
Many Democrats were in denial of that fact and they can't be now. If they discount the veracity of wikileaks, then Assranger is harmless.
So far, I haven't seen anything that is particularly damaging either. Buncha gossipy insider smear stuff...very catty, very predictable. Also goes far to show the B+rry incompetance of the Administration but we knew that already.
big yawn
Posted by: torabora at December 07, 2010 03:26 AM (8ny/8)
Posted by: 141Driver at December 07, 2010 03:28 AM (DXa7u)
Posted by: William Wallace at December 07, 2010 03:28 AM (uEK3D)
You know, I don't think that Obama thought it would turn out this way.
His health control plan had to have initial costs but delayed benefits to get around some legislative rule.
His attempts to deliver it would lead to a brand-new political movement.
And his nemesis is an effeminate little left-wing weasel who has some bizarre ethos about releasing all information in the world.
Posted by: AmishDude at December 07, 2010 03:35 AM (BvBKY)
6 Assange is an enemy of the free world but the charges against him are ridiculous. Two scorned women are using ridiculously politically correct anti-male laws because they're embarrassed that they spread their legs for this twerp.
Poetic justice, I think. This is the world he would give to the rest of us.
Posted by: AmishDude at December 07, 2010 03:37 AM (BvBKY)
Posted by: BigGator5 at December 07, 2010 03:38 AM (XQgW6)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at December 07, 2010 03:45 AM (TpXEI)
Posted by: Concern Troll at December 07, 2010 03:49 AM (elJA3)
This is, I think, the thing. He knows that as long as he's in custody, he won't be killed. Of course if some "fellow prisoner" happened to slip him a shiv, well, that'd just be a damn shame, now, wouldn't it?
Posted by: Farmer Joe at December 07, 2010 03:53 AM (ZGhSU)
Posted by: Napoleon Bonaparte & Rudolf Hess at December 07, 2010 04:00 AM (elJA3)
Posted by: Mike at December 07, 2010 04:21 AM (8XDXc)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at December 07, 2010 04:26 AM (bvfVF)
Posted by: torabora at December 07, 2010 04:29 AM (8ny/8)
Posted by: dagny at December 07, 2010 04:48 AM (a4kWg)
Posted by: apotheosis at December 07, 2010 04:50 AM (xWk3U)
Posted by: Jeffrey Quick at December 07, 2010 05:21 AM (g9neE)
Posted by: dagny at December 07, 2010 08:48 AM (a4kWg)
They're probably the kind of women who have adam's apples and get 5 o'clock shadow
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 07, 2010 05:22 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: joncelli© at December 07, 2010 05:49 AM (RD7QR)
I mean, he makes Jack Black look like a sexy beast.....yeccch!
Posted by: bigpinkfluffybunny at December 07, 2010 06:04 AM (1Ialr)
I also think the super-scary "insurance file" is a bluff. He and his pals don't have the self-control to keep anything really juicy under wraps. All he can do is spill the names of informants -- at which point whatever shreds of moral credibility he might have had go out the window and he can be shipped off to Gitmo to universal applause.
I have another question: why haven't the Internet domain servers been instructed to reassign "Wikileaks.org" to some Japanese porn site?
Posted by: Trimegistus at December 07, 2010 06:24 AM (Z+rhq)
is his long lost twin bother, Bill Maher, going to be there with him?
Family should stick together.
Posted by: Lemon Kitten at December 07, 2010 06:30 AM (0fzsA)
Posted by: The Brickmuppet at December 07, 2010 06:34 AM (EJaOX)
Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at December 07, 2010 08:20 AM (OdjhZ)
Posted by: The Highland Pipes at December 07, 2010 08:22 AM (G/Shp)
Posted by: Ben at December 07, 2010 08:23 AM (wuv1c)
Posted by: t-bird at December 07, 2010 08:24 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: cali grump at December 07, 2010 08:24 AM (hL0k8)
Posted by: Bubba Ian (Julian's new best friend) at December 07, 2010 08:25 AM (wOGfT)
Patently unjust. Orange just isn't his color.
Posted by: laceyunderalls at December 07, 2010 08:27 AM (pLTLS)
Posted by: 18-1 at December 07, 2010 08:28 AM (7BU4a)
Posted by: Nobel Prize committee at December 07, 2010 08:28 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: cayman at December 07, 2010 08:29 AM (wPkwi)
Posted by: Ben at December 07, 2010 08:29 AM (wuv1c)
For how long will he be held without bail without charges could become a matter of habeas corpus concern, using a villain like Assange to effect imprisonment without a trial. We'll see about the Euroweenies dealing with a cyber terrorist, likely playing musical chairs with his location from England to Sweden, etc. Assange will trump a Jesus complex before it's over. And the American euro-copycats will institute international practice to enhance the abuses of power that DHS already has to practice reverse discrimination, prosecuting conservative and respectable US citizens (State of AZ) rather than prosecuting 9/11 terrorists in military tribunal.
Posted by: maverick muse at December 07, 2010 08:30 AM (H+LJc)
Posted by: Waterhouse at December 07, 2010 08:30 AM (+dsUz)
Posted by: Jack's androgynous confusion at December 07, 2010 08:30 AM (F/4zf)
Posted by: apotheosis at December 07, 2010 08:31 AM (xWk3U)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at December 07, 2010 07:45 AM (TpXEI)
Dude, I've got 13 PowerPoint presentations and an all day diversity meeting scheduled for this week. Like I have time to deal with National Security threats.
Posted by: Some CIA Agent at December 07, 2010 08:31 AM (7BU4a)
Posted by: maverick muse at December 07, 2010 08:32 AM (H+LJc)
I think the most effective sanction is cutting off his fundraising account. Either Visa or the Swiss or both did that.
Posted by: ace at December 07, 2010 08:32 AM (nj1bB)
Posted by: Vic at December 07, 2010 08:33 AM (e4sSD)
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at December 07, 2010 08:33 AM (RkRxq)
1st offense, vasectomy
2nd offense, removal of testicle.
3rd strike you're out castration.
Posted by: maverick muse at December 07, 2010 08:37 AM (H+LJc)
Posted by: s☺mej☼e
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The point of the insurance file is that (potentially) millions of people have already downloaded the whole file and are just waiting for the key.
If someone shuts down wikileaks at this point, all Assange has to do is have one of his minions publish the key somewhere on the internet (which would go viral in 12 seconds) and everyone would have access to the files they already have on their desktops.
Posted by: ChiTown-Jerry at December 07, 2010 08:37 AM (f9c2L)
Posted by: Rodney Dangerfield at December 07, 2010 08:38 AM (+Wvn3)
Posted by: laceyunderalls at December 07, 2010 08:39 AM (pLTLS)
But for outing security locations, personnel and human informative sources, it would only be a matter of embarrassment.
Here's a c-theory to bust: Assange only leaked embarrassments, not security breaches.
Posted by: maverick muse at December 07, 2010 08:39 AM (H+LJc)
Does anyone know what the average penalty in Sweden for not wearing a condom is?
Being born a Scandi?
Posted by: laceyunderalls at December 07, 2010 08:40 AM (pLTLS)
Is this it?
/From Current dot com. It was translated from Swedish to English by Google.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at December 07, 2010 08:42 AM (9hSKh)
Posted by: parisparamus at December 07, 2010 08:42 AM (arMI9)
Posted by: ChiTown-Jerry at December 07, 2010 08:42 AM (f9c2L)
Posted by: Ghost of John Brown at December 07, 2010 08:43 AM (S1WFd)
Here's something. Not all in English, and I'm not sure about the source, but fun reading.
Posted by: Bomber at December 07, 2010 08:44 AM (qzoN5)
Posted by: The Mega Indepedent at December 07, 2010 08:45 AM (b5lnz)
Hmm, will there be anyone from our DOJ with a warrant for his arrest?
Oh, and...
a squalling little albino fucktrophy
I am so stealing that.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 07, 2010 08:47 AM (b6qrg)
Posted by: maddogg at December 07, 2010 08:47 AM (OlN4e)
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at December 07, 2010 08:48 AM (RkRxq)
Posted by: maddogg at December 07, 2010 08:50 AM (OlN4e)
Hopefully it'll come with a stiff sentence.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at December 07, 2010 08:50 AM (9hSKh)
Posted by: SurferDoc at December 07, 2010 08:50 AM (o3bYL)
Think what you will of Assange's Wikileaks actions, but this rape prosecution is a withchunt. They are serioulsy denying bail for acts of consensual sex that are not criminal in this country.
Where are the defenders of liberty in the face of oppressive government.
What if dude had spilled anti-communist anti-liberal bullshit? Woudl everyone here be all for his persecution by any and all means necessary.
In fact, here is the perfect question: What fate would we want to see for the climate gate hackers that possibly truly could have saved the world with the data they leaked.
Would AoSHQ be all for some bullshit trumped up charge just to get the bastard? Would libertarians and conservatives start demanding prosecution for free speech then?
I think the rape charges and the actions of Wikileaks need to be separated. If dude broke the law with the condom crap, then he shoudl pay the price for that. But I am not in favoro of a concerted worldwide effort to get this guy by any means necessary.
Posted by: California Red at December 07, 2010 08:52 AM (smPb6)
Posted by: maddogg at December 07, 2010 08:53 AM (OlN4e)
Assange and Obama detest each other because they ARE each other's twin.
Posted by: maverick muse at December 07, 2010 08:54 AM (H+LJc)
Posted by: cali grump at December 07, 2010 08:54 AM (hL0k8)
I think the rape charges and the actions of Wikileaks need to be separated. If dude broke the law with the condom crap, then he shoudl pay the price for that. But I am not in favoro of a concerted worldwide effort to get this guy by any means necessary.
Your right, of course. I would personally prefer to throw his ass in a pit with starving wolves. Much better than arresting him for clipping the bubble off of a rubber.
Posted by: maddogg at December 07, 2010 08:55 AM (OlN4e)
Here's a c-theory to bust: Assange only leaked embarrassments, not security breaches.
Posted by: maverick muse at December 07, 2010 12:39 PM (H+LJc)
The point I thought that I was making is that the Obama administration has shown this to be unimportant as something which must be dealt with. That point, imo, still holds. They have acted as if the lives and the secrets that this asshole has exposed are at most, inconsequential. I still don't see much interest coming from the administration. Strong condemnation from Hillary doesn't really impress too many people anymore since they could just loop that tape every other day for the next subsequent groin kick that the U.S. takes from those who hate us.
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at December 07, 2010 08:56 AM (RkRxq)
Posted by: James at December 07, 2010 08:58 AM (Nljcu)
Posted by: California Red at December 07, 2010 12:52 PM (smPb6)
Sweden is the most enlightened country in the world and if their laws are not our laws, it's only because we haven't evolved properly yet.
Posted by: AmishDude at December 07, 2010 08:59 AM (BvBKY)
If wikileaks uses a .org site, then someone should set up a site wikileaks.com and have a faux 404 page saying something like this:
This page has been terminated. Please stay where you are. We know who you are, we know where you are, and if you run we will find you.
Then have the sound of a door creaking or a gun safety being released about a minute after the page loads, after the reader has a moment to read and reflect on the message.
Posted by: Grey Fox at December 07, 2010 09:00 AM (u4D3B)
Posted by: Fritz at December 07, 2010 09:00 AM (GwPRU)
Posted by: The Mega Indepedent at December 07, 2010 09:01 AM (b5lnz)
Posted by: cali grump at December 07, 2010 09:05 AM (hL0k8)
Posted by: Retread at December 07, 2010 09:07 AM (AkM8L)
This is simply a way for scared little Jules to stay alive. You'll have to pry his ass out of that cell with a crowbar. He's dead meat walkin out on the street.
Posted by: sifty at December 07, 2010 09:10 AM (MoA1d)
Posted by: SurferDoc at December 07, 2010 09:17 AM (o3bYL)
Posted by: sifty at December 07, 2010 01:10 PM (MoA1d)
Here is your salad with Polonium dressing, Mr. Assange.
Posted by: British jailer with a vaguely Russian accent at December 07, 2010 09:21 AM (BvBKY)
I don't want to hurt no one.
Still I crossed Obama back in Aragon
Don't take me alive.
Got a case of dynamite
I could hold out here all night.
Still I crossed Hill'ry back in Aragon
Don't take me alive.
Heh. Steely Dan is teh awesome. I'd nominate "Third World Man" or "The Royal Scam" for a more on-point POV song about Mister Leaker. (Miser Dribbler now?) Still, I suppose "Don't Take Me Alive" is a good representation of this guy's ego.
Posted by: exdem13 at December 07, 2010 09:22 AM (beW+t)
Posted by: BFD at December 07, 2010 09:29 AM (huR71)
38 So is there now a requirement that leftwing heroes have to be sexual predators? Clinton, Assange, etc...
You forgot Al Bore!
Posted by: Tipper at December 07, 2010 09:30 AM (mQMnK)
Are we really going to have to sit through another fucking Presidential Conference/Address/News Conference?
Why is Obama convinced that what we need is just a little more Obama?
Posted by: garrett at December 07, 2010 09:35 AM (XyX1Y)
But until then, Julian will be treated like a queen in a posh jail surrounded by guards.
Posted by: sifty at December 07, 2010 09:53 AM (MoA1d)
Now that the Brits are holding him, can't we put an extradition claim on him as well?
Posted by: Iblis at December 07, 2010 10:19 AM (9221z)
Think what you will of Assange's Wikileaks actions, but this rape prosecution is a withchunt. They are serioulsy denying bail for acts of consensual sex that are not criminal in this country.
Where are the defenders of liberty in the face of oppressive government.
I certainly don't think that what Assange did (the condom thing, not the leaking thing) should be a crime, but hey - I'm not gonna tell the Swedes how to run their country, and the leftards are always going on about how superior socialist Europe is to America, so let 'em eat it.
Posted by: Farmer Joe at December 07, 2010 10:28 AM (z4es9)
From what I could tell on researching this this "crime" amounts to what in the U.S. would be classified as a misdemeanor. It carries a 700 dollar fine only.
Posted by: Vic at December 07, 2010 10:46 AM (e4sSD)
#89, I want my CHAKRA RELEASED!!!!
Posted by: Rapist-Face Ewok at December 07, 2010 11:29 AM (QUuUE)
Posted by: emdfl at December 07, 2010 12:15 PM (2HunZ)
Blackmail only works if you can STOP the harm from happening - the file is out in the wild, they can't recall it. It will eventually be cracked. The threat has no meaning as the damage is already accomplished.
Then again, I'm not surprised that these people have never thought seriously about incentives.
They're vandals, their motto should be "doing harm with no constructive end in sight." Or "breaking eggs but no omelet in sight."
Posted by: Merovign, Strong on His Mountain at December 07, 2010 01:52 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: PersonFromPorlock at December 07, 2010 02:18 PM (VPlpE)
Posted by: Uncle Jed at December 07, 2010 03:07 PM (wisXM)
Posted by: RightThinker at December 07, 2010 04:19 PM (KmHbv)
Let's have the names of those "celebrities" who tried to bail his ass out as well, please.
My thought , as well.
Posted by: Gem at December 07, 2010 05:31 PM (zw+pb)
I'm wondering how our gubberment could be so incompetant to even let this shit happen to them (us). We had the Walker espionage, Pollard, and others to learn from and yet this shit happens largely because of a single PFC? WTF?
If Assranger and company can get inside our OODA loop who's to say that the Chicom's/Iranians/Putin etc are not already penetrated deep into our security apparatus?
This is a symptom of a problem as well as a problem. The castrati would be baying for Bush's blood by now if he were Prez...why is B+rry getting a pass when he is an accountable recipient of this foul deed?
Posted by: torabora at December 08, 2010 05:09 AM (mgH1T)
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Posted by: maverick muse at December 07, 2010 03:03 AM (H+LJc)