1
Cereal?

2 Stick a fork in it.

I'll believe that when the new Congress meets in January of 2011 and if the GOP can get more seats. Zombie health care will rise again.

3 Stick a fork in it and it will rise again to haunt us and torture us to the end of our days.

4 The Congressional Hispanic Caucus makes a demand that already derailed healthcare reform once. The Congressional Black Caucus complains that Obama isn't listening to them. The co-chair of the Congressional Progressive Caucus announces that the President's stumping across the country isn't doing a lick of good. The Stupak Twelve announce that there will be no deal.

The party of "No" strikes again.  If it wasn't for Republicans this would have been passed months ago.

5 Nomentum  LXVII?

6 I believe that "let's not start sucking each other's dicks," is appropriate at this time.

7

Stick a fork in it.

I think a stake might be more appropriate. Mebbe 2 or 3, with a fence post, maybe a pier pile...

8 Thankfully, Obama's lack of executive experience is working to America's advantage.

9 If it is going to fail anyway, can I demand free healthcare for my pet unicorn? I need to make that demand to assuage my domestic constituency.

10 My Indonesian trip can't get here fast enough.

Hey Summers!  Can you tell the Templars to accelerate the calendar a week?

11

IT'S A REPUBLICAN CIVIL WAR!!!!!!!!!!!!

oh, wait

12 Are you sure?

13 I'm glad to stick a fork in it, I'm tired of talkin about it, tired you feel me?

14

The Congressional Hispanic Caucus makes a demand that already derailed healthcare reform once. The Congressional Black Caucus complains that Obama isn't listening to them. The co-chair of the Congressional Progressive Caucus announces that the President's stumping across the country isn't doing a lick of good. The Stupak Twelve announce that there will be no deal. And now the Parliamentarian makes it that much harder to get wavering Congressman on board.

And a partridge in a pear tree.

15

Isn't it cute how the dems don't trust each other? It's like they know themselves or something. Perhaps some more bonding tickle fights should ensue

16 ....except for that little "Vice-President can overrule the parliamentarian" thing.....

Although, of course, that would further taint this fetid process in a big, bad, ugly, public way.

C'mon Dems! The chicken is greased up and waitin' for ya!!!!

17 Once Barry signs it, what exactly would the need be to reconcile it?  The House would be screwed, but no one else, who would have to put the bill through the process, would have any need to do so.  Unless enough Reps fall on their swords, it's dead.

18
And what's stopping the Obama/Democrats from changing the rules?

19 Maybe this will be the last endgame.

20 Man, we can't bail you lefties out on this one.

21 Hell,

That's no Parlementarian - that's Parlementarian FUNKADELIC

Embrace the Funk

22 Zero will angrily admonish the Chief Justice for this!

23
The Congressional Hispanic Caucus , The Congressional Black Caucus, The Congressional Progressive Caucus

TEABAGGING RACISTS!

24

The Congressional Hispanic Caucus makes a demand that already derailed healthcare reform once.

And just what WAS that specific demand?

25
The media also likes to say 'political ju-jitsu.'

26 Correction: The headline should state the following..................... Parliamentarian tells Pelosi, Reid, and Obama to go "Fuck Yourself" you little CumStains".  Now fly back to Washington Purple Lip Boy and Shut -up !!!!!

27 Get your ass out there and dig up some dirt on this parliamentarian fucker.  Don't come back empty-handed.

28 I'd be delighted to stick a fork in it.  But I won't believe until the Anointed One himself says no health care this year. 

29

19
And what's stopping the Obama/Democrats from changing the rules?


They need a 2/3rds majority to change rules in the middle of a session

30 All this does is make me nervous about how Barry doubles-down next.  What kind of crazy is he willing to pursue?

Stake this thing through the heart, cut its head off, stuff it with garlic, bury it and salt the ground.

31 Excuse me while I take my daughters to Indonesia, because I want to show them where daddy is really from, visit a mosque or two, and impress the natives. Oh, and on your dime. Suck it....

32  ...

or Parliamentarian Funkadelic.

pa -tay-toe, poh-tay-toe,

33

"Stick a fork in it. "

 

Heck, stick a fork, knife, spoon, shovel in it.... however we can kill this bill.  I think we are seeing the beginning of the end for healthcare reform.  YAY!

 

34 Palomino!  PALOMINO!!!!

35 ...Aaannnd - the styrofoam columns come crashing down, blown over by the winds of rationality.

36 Endgame II:  The Endgamening.

37 What are the odds on Ace double posting this in about 15 minutes?

38
They need a 2/3rds majority to change rules in the middle of a session.

And what's stopping them from changing that rule?

39 Its JUST A FLESH WOUND dammit ...

40 Where the hell is ABBA?

41

I'm not going to celebrate until we put a stake thru the heart of this piece of shit & burn it on a funeral pyre.   Pukelosi & the Progressive nitwits aren't going to give up just because of this.   They'll do everything in their power to get that Senate bill passed in the House.

I won't be happy 'til Nan's face is fucking melting over this.

42 We have to admit.  We're pretty fucking awesome at obstruction.

43 All this does is make me nervous about how Barry doubles-down next.  What kind of crazy is he willing to pursue?

Remember when Saddam started making a speech, and lawmakers were lead out one by one and shot?

44 I believe that "let's not start sucking each other's dicks," is appropriate at this time.

I think that needs to change as to not be sexist to the moronettes:

Lets not start licking each others labs yet ladies.

45 Being Devil's advocate, can't Jumpin Joe Biden overrule the parliamentarian?

Anyway, I think this thing was effectively killed when Scott Brown was elected.

Being able to ram a conference reconciliation bill through a filibuster-proof Senate was probably the only practical way to bridge the Senate and House versions.  The two bills were always pretty far apart, and the tremendous arm-twisting and bribery needed to pass them through the Senate were just one example of this. 

Now the question is when will the Democrats actually ADMIT that they can't pass this.

46
how yous like my new nic?

47

Let's recap the awesomeness that is next week:

-Green beer and grope an Irish girl day

-The start of March Madness

-_{lacey's birthday}

- Bambi's overseas departure and the *hopeful* death of Commiecare.

I'm in such a pleasant mood I believe I'll commence drinking said green beer immediately.

48 Can someone explain this to me?  I thought reconciliation occurred when the houses couldn't agree (on budgetary concerns) BEFORE a bill is passed.  How can there be reconciliation on a bill passed by both houses?  Why would you need reconciliation on a passed bill?

49 That Fucking Parlor-Dude Fucking Sucks. Axelrod and Gibbs, You Fuck-Stains better take care of the Fucking Guy Fucking fast. Ok you little Fuck-Wads..........

50

The Congressional Hispanic Caucus makes a demand that already derailed healthcare reform once.

And just what WAS that specific demand?

I read this morning that they object to the exclusion of illegals from the super-duper health care for everyone plan.  No sense of irony whatsoever that they were elected to represent tax-paying citizens.

51 BREAKING? Don't you mean BROKEN?

52 Why do I hear angry footsteps all of a sudden?

53
Next week is green beer and grope a moronette day?  Sweet.

54

Good grief. Who wrote this bill, George Freaking Romero?

Voooooootes.... Voooooooooooootes... NOM NOM NOM

(Not that your more traditional zombies would find much in the way of sweet, sweet brains in Congress.)

It's not dead. It's pining. (I have to think that there were some "yes" votes in nancy's pocket that were allowed to vote "no" the first time around...)

55 "Pelosi goes over health bill, leaves March 18 vote possibility open""Another outstanding issue is whether to attach a student-lending bill to the reconciliation vehicle.

The House already approved the student loan bill, and Democrats in the lower chamber are eager to move forward, but Reid faces resistance from members such as Sen. Ben Nelson (D-Neb.).

“We’re going to talk about whether education is going to be part of reconciliation. Under the instructions that came out of the Budget Committee, we’re entitled to do both healthcare and education by reconciliation,” Reid said. “But the caucus – I want them to make that decision.”

This article was posted at 3:07

56

Let me get this straight, the House has to pass the senate's bill, then Barry signs it before he goes home to Indonesia, then the senate votes on reconciliation, then the house makes amendments which the senate and barry have to sign?

Is that right?

57 A horse!  A horse!  My kingdom for a horse!

58

I can haz skull pleaz?  Or at least some pudding?

59 It's not over until 2013.  At earliest.

I've heard the EPA is simply going to regulate CO2 emissions health insurance premiums because insurance is pollution!

60 Is the shit about to hit me?

61 bury it and salt the ground

Officer, arrest that man.

62 I'm beginning to think this nightmare will only die when the entire Democrat caucus is welded into 55-gallon drums bobbing in the Pacific debris field.

Hell, make a stimulus project out of it.  Put thermometers on the drums and fund it all as global-warming research.

Put Holdren, Chu, Browner, Jackson, Lubchenko, and James Hansen on a raft out there for the next five years to record the data.

63

I represent the Congressional Hispanic Caucus and our demand is that Hugo Chavez replace Pelosi as the Speaker of the Mouse.

64

I won't be happy 'til Nan's face is fucking melting over this.

Did you see her mug on Drudge this morning?

65 Call me blonde and confused but couldn't Vp noodlehead biden overrule senate parlimentarian? 

66 Obama is going down like the Hindenburg lol.

67 damn sock

68 It's dead, Jim.

69 To whoever is in charge of the skulls around here, I humbly suggest that this image accompany either this post, or ace's future duplicate post.

70

I won't be happy 'til Nan's face is fucking melting over this.

You mean like the Nazi in RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK?

71 I am so excited that I just ordered all my employees here into my office for an impromptu tickle fight!!!! brb...

72 owww!! Stoppit! I'm not that kind of fowl!

73

They need a 2/3rds majority to change rules in the middle of a session

Yeah, but there's still the problem that Slow Joe can override the parliamentarian on this thing (assuming that the house still passes it to them.)

The Repub threat of wrecking the thing during the reconciliation 20-hour debate/amendment cycle goes away if Joe just waives all the R points of order. So the Ds still have that reassurance (small or big as it may be) to give nervous house Ds.

I agree, let's not start with the mutual fellatio just yet, lads.

74 Aaargh. Trying again.

To whoever is in charge of the skulls around here, I humbly suggest that this image accompany either this post, or ace's future duplicate post.

75 Thank god.

76

If the Republicans were smart, they would attach an amendment that states that absolutely no taxpayer funds could be used for cosmetic surgery, even San Fran Slam Bam Freezer Face Nan would drop support for the bill.

Just sayin'

77 I keep sticking forks into this bastard and its still wiggling around.

Enough is enough! I have had it with these motherfucking snakes in this motherfucking congress!

78 What happened to the "we'll make a rule" deal?

79 #58
That's about right.

Its not entirely clear that the President HAS to sign it before the Senate takes up reconciliation, but if the House were to pass the Senate version, it really wouldn't make a difference, since Obama would certainly sign the thing whether it went through reconciliation or not.

But the bottom line is, the House would have to sign off on the Senate bill, knowing full well that

a. The Senate has NO interest in reconciling ANYTHING, and

b. The President has EVERY interest in signing SOMETHING and.

c. Even stipulating for the sake of argument that both the Senate AND the President sincerely want to please the House by attempting reconciliation (something that is probably NOT true), there is no guaranteed that the issues that concern individual House members even COULD be fixed by reconciliation, let alone that the ones that could be fixed actually would be.
 

80
Nah, dood, THIS is the new & improved flaming siren.

81 How do you shoot a Bill in the head?

82 Hello?  Yes, I'd like to buy ten thousand shares of Jello Pudding please.

83 Here we go:  "The Scandalous Scott Brown Lawsuit No One Told You About"

Sheesh....

And you mocked Beck for not jumping on the bandwagon.

84 Bad news. The "fog of the controversy” is getting thicker...

85

Why would you need reconciliation on a passed bill?

different kinds of "reconciliation."

One is reconciling the House and Senate versions of a not-passed bill, (this is the usual meaning that we're accustomed to.)

This special reconciliation is specifically "budget" reconciliation, done to a passed bill to fix* budget problems (mainly in fairly technical ways, at least until it started getting used as a bit of a filibuster end run, see the Bush Tax cuts.)

*for a given value of fix.

 

86

Stick a fork in it.

As others have pointed out, not good enough.  There will have to be a clear death to this legislation.  Call for investigations of all the criminality and abuse of power/funds used to drag this rotting carcass around all these months ... long after any normal American had assumed it was killed (as Drudge illustrated wo well with his little list of 'death of health scare' headlines).  Only an offensive against those pushing this monstrosity will stop it.  People need to start calling The Precedent an idiot and a liar - which he is and we all know but everyone is afraid to say.  They need to talk about the un-Constitutionality.

So much was allowed to get through in the first year of The Precedent's term, but people have to start pushing back on them all.  They can't let the retard and his useful idiots get away with this stuff, anymore.

87

I read this morning that they object to the exclusion of illegals from the super-duper health care for everyone plan.  No sense of irony whatsoever that they were elected to represent tax-paying citizens.

Posted by: Peaches at March 11, 2010 03:40 PM (9Wv2j)

I knew it has something to do with pandering to illegals!

Thanks Peaches.

88 The burlap sack had an eerie expressionless look to it as he hung there, face covered, with more of the look of the executor the executed. The rope was too short that was certain. Normally his neck would have broke and there would be nothing to see. But now. he was doomed to die slowly, and we seemed doomed to watch. His hands bound behind, the predictable shaking of the legs ensued, as if he were a salmon, and the air water, he tried to swim some slack into the choking bindings of hemp. He looked so weak and helpless as he thrashed against the inevitable; was this the monster we had all feared? The terror that would wake so many from a sound sleep from mere nightmares of his visage? I tried to imagine that visage one last time, eyes blood red from bursting vessels, blood oozing down his chin from certain bites into his own tongue. The thrashing became more violent, as if he were trying to break the rope with the struggles of a dangling man, surely this was the death throws, when one knows the icy hand on his shoulder has but one grim owner. Then seemingly as quick and suddenly as that dread descended upon us, it left, as thrashing gave way to mere twitching, the last stray synapses extinguished as the mind starved for air. Then stillness, and for the first time in months, the fear, that dreaded fear, started to lift.

(To DHS, FBI, CIA, Secret Service, TWIMC) The above article represents creative personification of health care legislation ONLY. It is not intended as a depiction of or call to violence against any real person.

89 All this does is make me nervous about how Barry doubles-down next.  What kind of crazy is he willing to pursue?

Fortunately, the way the system is set up, there's a pretty limited amount of crazy he can pull off without help from a lot of people who answer to the voters.  Obama may be willing to ignore the polls, but people in Congress didn't spend their lives climbing that greasy political pole so they can leap off on Obama's whim.

I mean, all you have to do to stay in Congress is listen to your focus group and raise money.  In a normal election cycle 99% of them get reelected.  Who would want to throw away that kind of gig?

90 Anyone looked at InTrade?  Shorts must be grinning.

91 Gentlemen, lets not start sucking each others dicks yet, at least not before my special, patented Massa Massage.

92 I just don't buy that the dems have a pro-life group that is willing to tank this for conviction.

93

Lets not start licking each others labs yet ladies.

Moronettes can commence this activity immediately.

And, of course, pics or it didn't happen.

94 this is like watching Armageddon ...  on the edge of your seat waiting for another drill bit or transmission to break and DOOM US ALL ...

95 InTrade Jun10 contract on Obamacare Pass is plummeting.

http://is.gd/aflF6

96 With the Scott Brown article coming out you almost feel like it is a war of words and can you top this?

97 Per Hannity, the dems are already looking at permutations of the madame slaughter rule AND advising sheriff joe can override the senate parliamentarian.

98 Wasn't there an article saying that a lot of those contracts came from the DC metro area, someone even suggested insider information?

99 All this does is make me nervous about how Barry doubles-down next.  What kind of crazy is he willing to pursue?

Dude's doubled down so much he's got to be resembling an accordion by now.

100 I just don't buy that the dems have a pro-life group that is willing to tank this for conviction

They're not tanking it.  The President is the one tanking it.  He owns this piece of shit.  He said he wouldn't fund abortion.  Well he is.  His own bill funds it.

He's acting, oh, what is it, yes, stupidly.

101 I just don't buy that the dems have a pro-life group that is willing to tank this for conviction.

They don't, but to retain their seats in Congress, well dems probably do have group willing to do that. The Abortion angle is just a way for them to legitimize the "i'm not voting for this because I will get hammered" line with "I can't vote for this because it's against my deep moral convictions."

102

97 Patience. Wait until after Wednesday. Guards will be down all across this once great nation!

*cheers*

103 So why really are the hispanic and stupack caucuses balking? They don't want to lose their seats and have to have a reason?

104 Wasn't there an article saying that a lot of those contracts came from the DC metro area, someone even suggested insider information?

Can you tell where transactions originate for InTrade?

Maybe Rahm is seeding his next job.

105 Fork me? No, Fork You!

106 Well, won't this parliamentary parlor trick they are proposing just further prove to the fence-sitter dems that they cannot be trusted?

107 "there's just a few minor, technical things"

Yeah, the devil is in those 'details'.  Keep spinning Nancy.  YOU DON'T HAVE THE VOTES!

108 this is like watching Armageddon ...  on the edge of your seat waiting for another drill bit or transmission to break and DOOM US ALL ...

Who'd thought politics would be so exciting. We should get another lefty President in office next time just to keep things interesting.

109

105 while I was typing 107 you answered with 105.

It's a reason not to lose their seats. Rush keeps pointing out that if Stupak didn't like abortion he would not have voted to fund it

110 This is a prime example of what happens when you put idealistic amateurs in charge.  Obama had zero f*cking experience doing any of this going in and it shows.  Remarkable how such a "brilliant" guy could find a way to screw up when he had unbeatable majorities in both houses.

Obama should write a book - "How to piss off everyone while accomplishing less than nothing".

GALLUP:
Despite signs of a strengthening economy and improving unemployment, Obama doesn't seem to be getting any credit.  Gallup has him at a LOWEST EVA 46% today.  Now when Gallup (who puts their thumb on the scale for Democrats to the tune of 5 points or so) has you at 46%, you KNOW ur in the shitter.

THE DICTIONARY:
"An Obama" - a name given to a person who speaks well and says all the right things but in practice, has no clue whatsoever.

111 I like the way the Democrats have 'focused laser like' on JOBS, JOBS, JOBS!

112

42 I won't be happy 'til Nan's face is fucking melting over this.

Bwaaah, someone photoshop blinkie into the face melting scene from raiders of the lost ark!

113 So why really are the hispanic and stupack caucuses balking? They don't want to lose their seats and have to have a reason?

I think the Hispanic Caucus is pandering.  There's a huge immigration march later this month.  They need some table scraps to feed the march.  They raised these same concerns last November and Pelosi paid them lip service and nothing more.

114 Fortunately, the way the system is set up, there's a pretty limited amount of crazy he can pull off without help from a lot of people who answer to the voters.  Obama may be willing to ignore the polls, but people in Congress didn't spend their lives climbing that greasy political pole so they can leap off on Obama's whim.

Posted by: Ace's liver at March 11, 2010 03:49 PM (XIXhw)

The Precedent has the lame streams behind him, enthusiastically and all-in with him, anyway.  And he has the race card, which will be pulled with abandon (as we saw an inkling of during the Town Hall Era) and which he has no qualms about pulling on his own useful idiots the minute they become useless.  He's already gone after the dems in Congress several times - in addition to the Rahm sorts of creepy/silly stuff.

The Precedent is looking to promote racial animus in this nation - as has been obvious for a very long time.  He just wants to exact revenge on this nation and he is on a suicide mission to do that.  He is on his run.

115 #90

Look, Obama-care style healthcare reform will NEVER be dead, so long as there is any liberal/progressive presence in American politics that considers it the "holy grail", their #1 policy priority.

But this Obamacare iteration?   Again, if the Democrats had the votes to pass this, it would already be signed law.   They don't, and with every passing day, it seems that things are getting harder for them, not easier.

All the votes that can be bought off. . .have probably already been bought off.
All the arms that can be twisted, have probably already been twisted (eg ask that guy Massa), and Pelosi's arm strength gets weaker every day the November elections get closer.

In short, not only isn't the the ball getting any closer to the Dem end zone, the clock is ticking and it seems to be moving the other way.

Further, the longer the Dems push on this incredibly UNpopular legislation, the worse things will be for them. .

116 I like the way the Democrats have 'focused laser like' on JOBS, JOBS, JOBS!

With their current track record, had they done that, the whole country would be out of work by now.  _{Gubmint and union employees exempt}

117

I would love to see the reaction to this turd tanking in the Whitehouse.

It would make the rumors and stories of hillary's rants seem like a lullaby in comparison!

118 This is obviously the result of the abuse of the Senate filibuster!

119 Send it my way, just to be sure...

120 "Are Washington DC Insiders Manipulating InTrade To Manufacture Momentum For Healthcare Reform?"It seems they may have "tweaked" the article a bit since I first read it.

121 I predict that Barack Obama will grow to become known as the MAN WHO DESTROYED THE DEMOCRAT PARTY.

122

Bwahahahahah!

_{...Excellent,  Excellent.}

123

Let me get this straight, the House has to pass the senate's bill, then Barry signs it before he goes home to Indonesia, then the senate votes on reconciliation, then the house makes amendments which the senate and barry have to sign?

Is that right?

"We will go through the gate," the Speaker stated. "If the gate is closed, we will go over the fence. If the fence is too high, we will pole vault in. If that doesn't work, we will parachute in. But we are going to get health care reform passed for the American people..."

124 So, somebody at the White House wakes up Slow Joe from his afternoon nappy and drives him up to the Hill, then somebody from Reid's staff writes what he has to say on a piece of paper, making sure to tell Joe not to eat it, then there is blather while Joe has another nappy, then the staffer pokes Joe in the ribs and Joe haltingly mouths the lines, then they drive Joe back home, and it's the cocktail hour! It's good to be VP. In other words, this is a roadblock but not a stake in the heart. When they recess in August for the elections and this thing has not passed, then maybe I'll relax. Until then, sleep with one eye open and keep a shotgun nearby.

125 Oh, wait.  it was already sent my way; that's how this all happened.  Better nuke it from outer space, too.

126 30

19
And what's stopping the Obama/Democrats from changing the rules?


They need a 2/3rds majority to change rules in the middle of a session

Posted by: s'moron at March 11, 2010 03:37 PM (UaxA0)

 

Well, that will not stop Obama/Dems from changing the rules, will it?

127

From the Corner:

Democratic leaders should be asking themselves just how they have gotten to the point that their strategy is to amend a law that doesnÂ’t exist yet by passing a bill without voting on it. Surely itÂ’s time to start over.

128 "Stick a fork in it."

I wish this 9-lived cat-zombie was dead. Alas, it cannot be killed. The socialist march is a relentless, ratcheting wheel designed to outlast even a Terminator. It's what they do. It's all they do. The quest for power/control is their drug; our lives, souls, and assets their fix.

The best we can do is lop off an appendage and round up more ammo before it mutates into something bigger and stronger... which it will do eventually.

BTW, we still have a viable 2nd Amendment, right? 'Cause it's still the best we've got against those machines. Not sure what we'll do when they discover free-form, free-flowing metallurgy.

129 I believe that "let's not start sucking each other's dicks," is appropriate at this time.

What about us?

130 I hope it was some good blow, brah. Pharmaceutical grade.

131

"Stick a fork in it. '

  You didn't attribute that to anyone...give Michelle credit where credit is due...

132

Fatal blow to Obamacare?

Let's shoot him!

Let's cut out his tongue!

Let's cut out his tongue, shoot him, then shoot the tongue!

This bill isn't dead until I see its decapitated head in a box, the body cremated, half the ashes thrown to the four winds, and the other half buried at the bottom of an undisclosed ocean.

133 Hey Joe, whatcha doin my my dick in your hand.  Get over to the senate and overrule that parlyman.

134 @47 & @67 should be answered. 

I thought Sloppy Joe could overrule the parliamentarian?

135 Further, the longer the Dems push on this incredibly UNpopular legislation, the worse things will be for them. .

Posted by: looking closely at March 11, 2010 03:57 PM (6Q9g2)

But, it was never really "the dems" pushing this.  It was all The Precedent.  At least, that's how I've seen this from the beginning.  If it had been up to Nazi and Hairy, this POS would have been tossed long ago and they might have gotten Crap&Trade through before the CRU emails came out.

No, my view has always been that The Precedent was the one forcing this through, not to get it passed (as I don't think he cares about politics or governance, at all) but to destroy our legislative system and injure the trustworhiness and reputation of Congress in the process.

He got the Congressional dems roped in by letting them go hog-wild on the Porkulus, and then writing anything they wanted for the health scare (because, as I said, I don't think he cared about it) so they all owed him, in addition to the fact that all the dems were imprisoned in support of "The PRECEDENT", lest the black guy fail ...

That's how I've always seen this situation.

136 Newsflash: Judges now control whether ACORN is funded, not Congress. I hope someone bothers to tell Congress

137

This bill isn't dead until I see its decapitated head in a box, the body cremated, half the ashes thrown to the four winds, and the other half buried at the bottom of an undisclosed ocean.

I'm pretty sure my first name wasn't 'Bill'.

138 I would love to see the reaction to this turd tanking in the Whitehouse.

It would make the rumors and stories of hillary's rants seem like a lullaby in comparison!

I'm betting that this is exactly how Retarded Barry doubles-down yet again on healthcare.  He will throw his temper tantrum in public, and he'll target congressional democrats.

139

125 I predict that Barack Obama will grow to become known as the MAN WHO DESTROYED THE DEMOCRAT PARTY.

Actually, the Democratic party is giving him all the help he can use.

140 133 I believe that "let's not start sucking each other's dicks," is appropriate at this time.

What about us?

Posted by: Moronette's Va-jay-jays at March 11, 2010 04:00 PM (GF+6V)

I'll deal with you this evening.

141 I predict that Barack Obama will grow to become known as the MAN WHO DESTROYED THE DEMOCRAT PARTY.

Posted by: Bill Mitchell at March 11, 2010 03:58 PM (kEBiX)

The Precedent would be very disappointed. He wants to be remembered as the MAN WHO DESTROYED AMERICA AND THE WEST.

142

IF ONLY the gaming world could come up with a SIM CITY - Barak edition.

Players can score points by giving 'presidential' speeches catching words from two teleprompters, pronounce 'corpse-men', picking noses on national TV, etc. etc.

143 The Paliamentarian saves the Democrats by giving them the excuse they need to not bring this to a vote.

144 Just got a letter from the Brian Birch society saying that Michigan representative Kilgee is folding (was a stupaker). Any morons in his district?

145 @140  You are correct. This was barry's big promise during the campaign: that something 85% of the people are happy with must be changed, because its a crises dontchaknow?

146

I can't help but think that this is a TRAP!  Democrats want people to stop calling, faxing and writing them over this.  Obama doesn't want the embarassment of huge public demonstrations against this.  I'm so jaded, I think that they want to trick people into easing up and thinking that they've dodged a bullet.  I don't trust these asstards.  They're evil and relentless and they are hellbent on getting this thing done. 

I did get to thinking, though, remember how Prosecutor, Mike Nifong's last name became a verb?  I'm thinking after all this is done and over, the word Obama could be a verb (we'll have to see how this all plays out before we give it a final definition.)

147

 133 I believe that "let's not start sucking each other's dicks," is appropriate at this time.

Tickle Fight, then?

148 Jesus God, these dicknibblen Dickocrats are a bunch of dicks. I swear they are driving me nuts with this freaking Health Care bullshit. for God's sake, just stop!!! Nobody fucking wants this crap!!! The reason they don't get serious about the job situation is no one can figure out how to bring back the millions of job that have left the country. So after this abortion goes down in flames, the next line of shit will be 'tax and spend' , amnesty, and gun control. Bunch a dicknibblers.

149 Will no one rid me of this troublesome parliamentarian?

Oh, and add my vote in favor of the pudding skull.

150

You can have my bill when you pry it from my cold dead fingers.

151 143 I would love to see the reaction to this turd tanking in the Whitehouse.

It would make the rumors and stories of hillary's rants seem like a lullaby in comparison!

I'm betting that this is exactly how Retarded Barry doubles-down yet again on healthcare.  He will throw his temper tantrum in public, and he'll target congressional democrats.

 

Rush has been predicting a very big and public meltdown in the near future.  He thinks that Teh Won is going to reach his breaking point because he has never been told "no" before.  Popcorn and Pudding futures will be through teh roof!

152 They're going to hold onto healthcare reform tighter than I can hold onto forged documents.

153 155 Fine with me

154
A heavily armed S.W.A.T. team breached the elaborate deadbolt on the Senate parliamentarian's residence today and immediately called for a Hazmat crew. "Looks like the Creature from the Gay Lagoon lives here" said one officer...
Lefties are so tolerant

155

March 11 (Bloomberg) -- U.S. stocks rose, reversing earlier losses, as Citigroup Inc. and Zions Bancorporation led a bank rally and investors speculated that health care reform will be harder to pass.

Coventry Health Care Inc. and Aetna Inc. increased more than 2.8 percent after a Senate parliamentarian made it harder for Democrats to use a process known as reconciliation to bypass Republican opposition to industry reform.

“I’m getting more and more convinced that the health-care reform is completely dead,” said Scott Tapley, a health-care money manager who helps oversee $2.5 billion at 1st Source Investment Advisors Inc. in South Bend, Indiana. “You get a sigh of relief because now they know they’re not going to have radical change in the immediate future.”

156

The Congressional Hispanic Caucus makes a demand that already derailed healthcare reform once. The Congressional Black Caucus complains that Obama isn't listening to them. The co-chair of the Congressional Progressive Caucus announces that the President's stumping across the country isn't doing a lick of good. The Stupak Twelve announce that there will be no deal. And now the Parliamentarian makes it that much harder to get wavering Congressman on board.

 

So when do we get to start calling all of these groups "the caucuses of no?"

157 Mysteriously, the House Parlimentarian suddenly went on a bungee jump in the northern Himalayas and was not heard from again...

158 Does this call for popcorn flavored pudding, or pudding flavored popcorn?

159

You can have my bill when you pry it from my cold dead fingers.

Your proposal is accepted.

160

This bill isn't dead until I see its decapitated head in a box...

It's a trick.  Get an axe.

161 I'm betting that this is exactly how Retarded Barry doubles-down yet again on healthcare.  He will throw his temper tantrum in public, and he'll target congressional democrats.

Posted by: MikeO at March 11, 2010 04:05 PM (lBmZl)

Anybody doubt that right now he's torching so many Kools that he would trip an infra-red monitor on a spy satellite?

162

If someone at FOX is reading, here's my freebie, comedic soap-opera idea: As The House Turns. Greg and gang need a day job.

163 115 I like the way the Democrats have 'focused laser like' on JOBS, JOBS, JOBS!

When they said they would "focus like a laser beam," who knew that they meant like a Pink Floyd laser light show.  Blinking laser beams everywhere!!!

164

Now Hiring:

Senate Parliamentarian.

Intersted parties please visit house gym for screening process, ask for "Rahm".

165

The reason they don't get serious about the job situation is no one can figure out how to bring back the millions of job that have left the country.

Someone better figure out a way or this country is finished.

166 ...matt...damon....

167 I have to take issue with the title of this post. This Obamination has taken more fatal blows and kept moving than the USS Yorktown (may she rest in peace).

168 Stick a fork in it? Just please don't stick anything in me. I'm fucking exhausted.

169 /sock begone

170 Slow Joe has no incentive to overrule the parliamentarian.  The Senate doesn't really want to go through reconciliation and neither does Obama.  The only reason this became an issue was the possibility that the House would refuse to send the bill to the President for signature until after reconciliation was finished.  Then, they would send the bill plus the reconciliation bill to the President at the same time.  This was a defense mechanism for the House to protect against the Senate bailing on them after the President signed it.  Slow Joe overruling the parliamentarian would put the House back in charge and could lead to chaos.

171 If the Democrats continue this criminal process, someone should ask them as Welch asked McCarthy, "At long last, have you left no sense of decency?"

172 Hey, Parliamentarian, I think you have a headache.

173 About jobs, the jobs that have left the country are not coming back. They are being done overseas for less money, and probably better than they would have been in the USA, unfortunately. High tech jobs are going next. Why? Because we have seriously dropped the ball in terms of education in the USA. India has more honor students than we have students. Think about that for a bit. College graduates had better think in terms of being inventors or business owners rather than wait for a cush corporate job to come along.

174

The Democrats just need to pass this thing so we can move on to bigger issues.  We need to work together to pass cap 'n trade and amnesty so that I can get some more love from the New York Times and  left-wing college kids.

I'd also like to send a big F*ck You out to the conservative base.  You're all a bunch of knuckle-dragging imbeciles who are hurting the Grand Old Party.

 

175 If odumbass thinks he hit a brick wall with HC wait until he stops us from recreational fishing, I see trucks and boats circling DC in thousands.

176 Great news!

177 There isn't going to be any reconciliation; from the beginning the whole thing has been a scam to sucker the House into passing the Senate bill. 
Oh, and I too favor the pudding skull.  David Caruso - meh.

178 Why are they still talking about changing the bill on tv?  It doesn't make sense, any changes have to have a re-vote in the senate, which will be filibustered.  I don't get it.

179 Don't trust this at all.   Don't trust them at all.  They have made it eminently clear that they will do anything to pass this, and to them anything means anything.   Protests still must occur, cards and letters must be sent.  emails and phone calls must be made.   If they are giving up then why are they sending two emails a day saying "this is the final push and we want you to do this and that?"......something isn't adding up here.....

180 Minor Imperial Officer: "General, we've analyzed the Rebel attack, and there is a small vulnerability.  Shall I ready your escape pod, Ma'am?"

Generalissima Pelosi: "What, abandon ship now, in our moment of greatest triumph?"

181

The Congressional Hispanic Caucus makes a demand that already derailed healthcare reform once. The Congressional Black Caucus complains that Obama isn't listening to them. The co-chair of the Congressional Progressive Caucus announces that the President's stumping across the country isn't doing a lick of good. The Stupak Twelve announce that there will be no deal. And now the Parliamentarian makes it that much harder to get wavering Congressmen on board.

Liberalism...the religeon od peace.

182 There's so many forks in that sucka, it looks like a porcupine.

183

About jobs, the jobs that have left the country are not coming back. They are being done overseas for less money, and probably better than they would have been in the USA, unfortunately. High tech jobs are going next. Why? Because we have seriously dropped the ball in terms of education in the USA. India has more honor students than we have students. Think about that for a bit. College graduates had better think in terms of being inventors or business owners rather than wait for a cush corporate job to come along.

Globalism isn't sustainable. Period. We're seeing that now. It has as much of a chance of working long term as the interlocking treaties among European countries did pre-WWI. Oh, they held up for awhile, but when the system crashed catastrophe followed.

As far as jobs coming back, perhaps not from those companies. Once the system crashes the people in this country WILL vote people into power who will rescind free trade treaties and make it impossible for transnational corporations to do business in this nation. No one wants to work a service job at Starbucks for the rest of their lives.

Every person in India could be an honor's student and it won't make a bit of difference in the long term. They have cultural issues that hinder their ability to lead any global economic enterprise. Ditto for China. 

184 rdbrewer...that was awesomely appropriate!

I award you 1 internets.

185 This ain't dead, fellas. Granny Rictus has all year to twist arms and get the Senate bill passed by the House. All year. Until January 2011, in fact. Hellcare isn't dead. Not by a long shot. After November, if the House hasn't passed the Senate bill yet, look for a mass political suicide in revenge for the results of November. November thru early January will be the most dangerous time, when the House may pass the bill as a huge fuck-you to the nation.

186 There were only three routes of escape.  

The first was to send the competing measures to conference and let the conference work out the differences.
The conference committee report goes back to both houses of Congress, where it receives a majority up-or-down vote in the House but is subject to Senate rules of debate, including the filibuster.  

Scott Brown cut that route off.

The second was to have the House pass the Senate version, as-is.  Bart Stupak, the Blue Dogs and likely the Hispanic caucus cut off that route.

The third was the convoluted reconciliation trick, wherein House Democrats would take a leap of faith and pass the Senate bill, trusting that the Senate would make changes to its bill through reconciliation procedures.  The Senate Parliamentarian has cut off that route with his ruling that the President must sign the bicamerally passed measure into law before the Senate could engage in the reconciliation procedure.

All three routes have been cut off, and there are no others left within the bounds of the Constitution.  I believe Nancy Pelosi knows this, and that Harry Reid knows it, too.  But the neophyte community organizer turned President is still blithely ignorant.  At some point between now and March 18, Rahm Emanuel will calmly inform the President that Obamacare is trapped, cannot escape, and is dead.

187 #101

Great. . .lets see how successful the Democrats attempts are to change the rules in the middle of a game that the whole country is watching, in order to force through legislation that the majority of the voting public wants to fail.

Its like they haven't learned a thing from the Scott Brown election.

If there are individual House members right now who are afraid to vote for this thing, imagine how they are going to feel with Fox News beating them over the head every night for participating in an illegal end-run around the rules coming right into election season. 

188

I know how Nancy feels.

There's just a few minor, technical things to work out before we can deliver your 100mpg flying cars.

And by minor, technical things, I mean gravity and the laws of thermodynamics.  Minor distractions, really.

189

NOW HIRING:

Personal assistant, menial tasks, starting car, tasting food, listening to Joe Biden's stories, going through doors first.... Preferably with no family.

Please apply at Senate Parliamentarian Office.

190

Healthcare Reform will soon go down like Obama At The Bat: http://tinyurl.com/y9skb8m

191 <blockquote>November thru early January will be the most dangerous time, when the House may pass the bill as a huge fuck-you to the nation.

Posted by: George Orwell at March 11, 2010 04:34 PM (AZGON)

</blockquote>

IIRC, and this one is fuzzy enough that it certainly might not be correct, there's something about the interaction of budgets and legislation that makes necessary to have a revote in the Senate after the fiscal year ends (in September). Any parliamentarians around to clear that up?

192

Vic Snyder (D-Ark) on Cuveto said he is leaning toward voting for the bill. He was an earlier yes vote - so doesn't change the math much. He is also retiring to spend more time with the family. Wonder if there actually is a vote how many more Democrats will be doing the same?

Depends on the quality and pay of the consultant or board of director positions they're bribed with offered.  I'm sure there are quite a few healthcare lobbying firms looking for new talent.

193 Great. . .lets see how successful the Democrats attempts are to change the rules in the middle of a game that the whole country is watching, in order to force through legislation that the majority of the voting public wants to fail.

Its like they haven't learned a thing from the Scott Brown election.

Posted by: looking closely at March 11, 2010 04:37 PM (PwGfd)  

They've gotten away with the most egregious such offenses, already.  The Scott Brown election was a case where they got away with it - not Brown winning, obviously, but the dems were able to abuse power and change the Massachusetts law to get a dem into the Senate for Teddy to vote to resurrect the health scare (after one of its many, many prior deaths).  No one got in trouble for that, even though people shoudl be spenind decades in federal prison for that sort of abuse of governmental power.  It's really just unbelievable, but the dems keep getting away with all this stuff, and more.

194 The second was to have the House pass the Senate version, as-is. Bart Stupak, the Blue Dogs and likely the Hispanic caucus cut off that route. Nothing is permanent in politics. Don't think for a minute that Nancy's job one, two and three for the rest of the year won't be flipping votes. She has nearly eleven months to get the votes aligned just right, and then strike. This sword of Damocles will be with us until the 111th closes next January. Barry will make speeches about Hellcare all year long, and Nancy will break arms. Water torture, wearing them down with persistence.

195 #192

Like cap and trade, they all know this is dead, its a question of when it becomes politically expedient to admit it.

196

Please.

 

Kill.

 

Me.

197

Washington Examiner:

Update: Meet the *16* Democrats whose votes matter most on health care

Here is our updated whip count for the expected House vote on the Senate's health care reform bill. The House vote in November was 220-215, but three "yes" voters have since left the House and the lone Republican who supported it has promised to vote "no." Moreover, a handful of last time's "yes" votes were conditioned on an pro-life rider missing from the new bill. The "Stupak Group" of perhaps 12 pro-life Democrats -- including Reps. Bart Stupak (Mich.), Jim Oberstar (Minn.), Marion Berry (Ark.) Joe Donnelly (Ind.), and Dan Lipinksi (Ill.). -- will vote "no" this time around.

So will Rep. Mike Arcuri, D-N.Y.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., will need 216 votes to guarantee passage, meaning she might need to turn at least 10 or 11 of last time's "no" voters to win for sure.

The members in red are the ones most likely to drop their opposition, flip and vote "yes" this time:

John Adler, N.J. – On Fox News Sunday, he didn't quite rule out voting "yes": “If the House and the Senate can’t work out cost containment, I don’t see how I support a bill that doesn’t help our business community and create more jobs, he said.” (Fox News Sunday, Mar. 7, 2010)

Jason Altmire, Pa. – Altmire equivocated this weekend on Fox News Sunday, saying he has an "open mind" about it. “I have to make a decision between passing this bill...or doing nothing.  And I'm weighing the balance between the two.” 

Brian Baird, Wash. – Baird's office told The Examiner March 10 that he is still undecided. 

John Barrow, Ga. – He always has close races in his Savannah-area district, which was made significantly more Republican through mid-decade redistricting. A "yes" vote might end his career. He has not indicated how he will vote, nor has he responded to inquiries from The Examiner.

John Boccieri, Ohio – Boccieri tells The Examiner that he is still undecided as of Mar. 10.

Rick Boucher, Va. – He is considered by the AP one of those most likely to flip. But Boucher has resisted his party's leadership in the past -- for example, when he voted against McCain-Feingold. This year, he faces the fight of his career against the state House Majority Leader. His office has not responded to inquiries by The Examiner.

Ben Chandler, Ky. – Chandler, already under fire for his support of cap-and-trade legislation last year, has given no public indication so far on his health care vote. His spokeswoman has not yet responded to inquiries by The Examiner.

Lincoln Davis, Tenn. – His office tells The Examiner that he remains undecided.

Bart Gordon, Tenn. – He is retiring, and considered by the Associated Press to be among those most likely to flip. In light of his recent comments, this seems quite likely. "He is not going to be making a final decision until he sees the final language," he told The Examiner.

Suzanne Kosmas, Fla. – Her district was drawn for a Republican, but she defeated former Rep. Tom Feeney, R-Fla. by exploiting his relationship with now-imprisoned lobbyist Jack Abramoff. Her office has not responded to The Examiner's inquiries, but some consider her a prime candidate to flip and vote "yes."

Betsy Markey, Colo. – Her re-election chances in her Republican district could be slim in a bad year for Democrats, but she isn't ruling out a "yes" vote. Her office has not responded to The Examiner's inquiries.

Jim Matheson, Utah – Just as he began to contemplate his vote, President Obama appointed his brother Scott to a federal judgeship. Good timing. Matheson told The Deseret News that he is undecided. "He has not announced how he will vote," his office told The Examiner.

Scott Murphy, N.Y. – The victor in a 2009 special election, Murphy is a fan of a single-payer health care system. His office did not reply to The Examiner's inquiries.

Glenn Nye, Va. – Nye, who defeated former Rep. Thelma Drake, R-Va., is among those considered most likely to switch and vote "yes," but his office did not respond to The Examiner's inquiries.

John Tanner, Tenn. –Tanner is retiring. His staff recently released a statement that leaves him open to switching: "Until we know what that bill will include, how will it be brought to the floor and what the Congressional Budget Office says regarding its cost, there is no way for [Congressman] Tanner to declare his support or opposition.” His office did not respond to The Examiner's inquiries.

Harry Teague, N.M. – This freshman already polls behind his Republican challenger, who previously represented his district. He has given no clear indication as to how he will vote, and his office has not responded to inquiries by The Examiner.

 

Laura Ingraham provides phone numbers and email links to the 16 here:  http://tinyurl.com/yzd3xpn

198 Zombies are a lot harder than that to "kill". 

199

I invite you to imagine the press reaction if GWB's Party had proposed to use reconciliation this way, and then the Parliamentarian had discovered this, and contrast this to the total abscence of coverage this will get.

Our press is totally corrupt.  It is going to have to be destroyed and then rebuilt as an institution that the American people can trust.

200

"Healthcare Reform will soon go down like Obama At The Bat: "

Or Barney on a Frank

201

I read where the Suicidal Tendencies were getting back together....

...oh wait, my bad- that was the Democratic Legislative Agenda...

202

If somebody wants to improve healthcare and reduce the unsupportable growth in costs.  How about tort reform.  People who bring frivolous lawsuits pay the winners legal fees.  Instead of punitive damages for malpractice award jail time, with the caveat that the malpractice rose to the level of criminality.  Winning a malpractice suit shouldn't be like winning a lottery for the victim and a bunch of lawyers.

Reduce government compliance costs by getting the government out of healthcare where ever possible.  That would reduce costs.  Centralize regulations rather than having a government bureaucracy for every state.  That would result in a reduction of government employees and reduced costs.

Oh, reducing costs and giving everyone health insurance isn't what socialized medicine is about?  Sorry.

203

While the VP could try to change this ruling, there is a problem with that.  The VP is President of the Senate, but that really means he casts the tie-breaking vote.  The Senate is part of the Legislative branch of government, and the Senate does not look kindly on a member of the Executive branch adjusting the Senate's rules.  It does not matter if the party that controls the Executive and the Senate are the same - the Senate determines its own rules and reacts accordingly to any outside meddling.

That has been the Senate's history of it's relations with the VP - titular President of the Senate.

204

That has been the Senate's history of it's relations with the VP - titular President of the Senate.

Posted by: Mikey NTH at March 11, 2010 06:19 PM (nlRuk)

We are dealing with a Precedent and Congressional junta unlike anything ever seen before in American history.  They break tradition as a sport, looking to injure our institutions any way they can, with The Precedent's contempt for us and our nation being the constant force behind all of these assaults on America. Don't put anything past this Senate, especially not based on our legislative traditions.  That's how bad things have become and why this damage is going to be permanent, no matter what happens in the upcoming elections.  The long list of broken taboos cannot be undone.

205 I gonna ride dis bitch 'til da mu'fuckin' wheels come off.

206

If somebody wants to improve healthcare and reduce the unsupportable growth in costs.

You folks keep forgetting that the intent is NOT to improve healthcare; just like crap and tax is not intended to improve the environment.

The intent with healthcare is to nationalize the healthcare industry. The intent with crap and tax is to nationalize the energy sector.  In short they turning the nation communist one sector at a time.

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#211:

We are dealing with a Precedent and Congressional junta unlike anything ever seen before in American history.  They break tradition as a sport, looking to injure our institutions any way they can, with The Precedent's contempt for us and our nation being the constant force behind all of these assaults on America. Don't put anything past this Senate, especially not based on our legislative traditions.  That's how bad things have become and why this damage is going to be permanent, no matter what happens in the upcoming elections.  The long list of broken taboos cannot be undone.

That is why the Senate has always reacted like this - precedent means that the opposition party can do the same thing - and Senators know this, and Senators react this way.  It then becomes a fight between two of the branches of government, and each branch jealously guards its own power and standing.

Let the Executive set the rules for the Senate?  I don't see that.

209 loan issues??

210 "Stick a fork in it."

Not a fucking chance.  This shit ain't done until the November elections are over and the new senators and representatives are seated.
Don't get cocky.  These will never stop.

211

With Barry's signature, dare one say legacy, unprecedented legislative master stroke in jeopardy, where is Michelle?  Out buying boob belts?

At least she has her priorities straight.

212

As an aside - Joe Biden is no Lyndon Johnson.  How much joy and influence did LBJ have with the Senate once he was VP?  And we are talking about LBJ and his Senatorial skills when he was VP.

Bah.

213 GulfCoastTider @ 192: There were only three routes of escape.  

The first was to send the competing measures to conference and let the conference work out the differences.
The conference committee report goes back to both houses of Congress, where it receives a majority up-or-down vote in the House but is subject to Senate rules of debate, including the filibuster.  

Scott Brown cut that route off.

The second was to have the House pass the Senate version, as-is.  Bart Stupak, the Blue Dogs and likely the Hispanic caucus cut off that route.

The third was the convoluted reconciliation trick, wherein House Democrats would take a leap of faith and pass the Senate bill, trusting that the Senate would make changes to its bill through reconciliation procedures.  The Senate Parliamentarian has cut off that route with his ruling that the President must sign the bicamerally passed measure into law before the Senate could engage in the reconciliation procedure.

All three routes have been cut off, and there are no others left within the bounds of the Constitution.  I believe Nancy Pelosi knows this, and that Harry Reid knows it, too.  But the neophyte community organizer turned President is still blithely ignorant.  At some point between now and March 18, Rahm Emanuel will calmly inform the President that Obamacare is trapped, cannot escape, and is dead." 
A very fine analysis.  Unfortunately, I think your reassuring conclusion is based on a flawed premise:  that the Dems will limit their options to those allowed by the Constitution.  Fact is, that constraint was violated when the feds took over GM and AIG, and started taking Chrysler dealerships away from legal owners (99% of whom supported Republicans) without any compensation or legal ruling/due process--a clear violation of the Constitution.

Because they got away with violating the Consitution earlier--without so much as a murmur from the Lamestream Media-- why would they fear to do it again?

I predict they'll pass a bill entitled "Health Care Reform," with provisions/contents never announced before the final vote.  They will then announce that the differences between the versions passed by the House and Senate, and the mystery version known only to Rahm, Reid and Pelosi, will be resolved thru the well-known reconciliation process.

The fact that this isn't kosher won't bother them in the slightest.  Further, the Repubs can scream and shout, but if the Dems are determined, they'll pass the thing on 5

214 (hit wrong key)... pass the thing on 51 votes and declare a fait accompli.  And then dare the Repubs to do something about it.

Just my 2c.

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