April 28, 2010

Breaking: Republicans Cave on Financial Filibuster
— Ace

Via enoxo.

At just about the same time Dick Morris sent out a email urging the GOP to fight on this issue.

Posted by: Ace at 12:02 PM | Comments (482)
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1 not exactly the strategy I had envisioned.

Posted by: joeindc44 at April 28, 2010 12:04 PM (QxSug)

2 Republicans?  Cave?  The devil you say!  I am shocked, shocked!

Posted by: mr crowley at April 28, 2010 12:04 PM (DlXP/)

3 You say "Republicans" but all they needed was one squish to cave.

These moderates know nothing of strategy.  Bad move tactically.

Posted by: AmishDude at April 28, 2010 12:05 PM (T0NGe)

4
Republicans?  Cave?  The devil you say!  I am shocked, shocked!

This.

Posted by: Dang Straights at April 28, 2010 12:06 PM (fx8sm)

5 Why?

Posted by: curious at April 28, 2010 12:06 PM (p302b)

6 Once again, the party that never misses an opportunity to miss an opportunity behaves perfectly true to form.

Posted by: DocJ at April 28, 2010 12:06 PM (dt6br)

7 They caved pretty easily but at least they took a stand, which is a change.

Posted by: joeindc44 at April 28, 2010 12:08 PM (QxSug)

8 You say "Republicans" but all they needed was one squish to cave.

Need names.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at April 28, 2010 12:08 PM (mR7mk)

9 "Ooh, we're afraid to go with you Bluto, the New York Times might get us in trouble." Well just kiss my ass from now on! Not me! I'm not gonna take this...

Posted by: Bluto, Former Registered Republican at April 28, 2010 12:08 PM (QKKT0)

10

Morons

 

Posted by: Vashta.Nerada at April 28, 2010 12:08 PM (AX3vC)

11

Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory yet again.  PT Barnum was wrong, you CAN fool republican congresscritters all of the time.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at April 28, 2010 12:09 PM (cniXs)

12 Tell me again why November will be a sweep?

Posted by: 48%er, 100% pissed off at April 28, 2010 12:09 PM (gxpfq)

13

Craptastic!

Why are they worried about being cast as the Party of No and in the hip-pocket of Wall Street? The media would say it regardless. Even though the evidence shows that people may actually like a little bit of no from their politicians these days AND that Dems are more cozy with Wall Street than  Republicans as of late (ie, Goldman Sachs and the bailout provisions in this m'effing bill)  they go into full tail between the legs mode.

So sick of this.  Get some women in there. These idiot men can't close the fucking deal.

 

Posted by: laceyunderalls at April 28, 2010 12:09 PM (IIQIM)

14 what? I thought I heard on the radio a couple of hours ago that it was 3 strikes and breathed a sigh of relief.

Posted by: Palerider at April 28, 2010 12:09 PM (dkExz)

15 They suck. They suck 1% less than the Democrats, but man, that's still a lot of suck.

Posted by: Bugler at April 28, 2010 12:10 PM (YCVBL)

16 No surprise.  The GOP sucks shit.  They don't know jack about what's going on.  More evidence as to why this nation will be forced to split.  We will descend into the chasm of liberal idiocy and generate an unlimited NATIONAL government that will force stagnation on us until either the monetary system breaks (the most likely eventuality) or people's tolerance just finally snaps.

This financial deform bill is nothing but unadulterated horseshit and any GOPer who signs on even to open up floor debate is a cowardly imbecile.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at April 28, 2010 12:11 PM (N49h9)

17 Well, they have the "breaking news headline" at Fox but no linky. It will be interesting to see what kind of a beard they got for abandoning the base once again.

No matter what they got it will not be worth it. There was NOTHING in that bill that was worth a shit and don't listen to any RINO saying they only want to have a debate and not vote FOR it.

That is a damn lie.  

Posted by: Vic at April 28, 2010 12:11 PM (QrA9E)

18 Bluto's right. Psychotic, but absolutely right. We gotta take these bastards. Now we could do it with conventional weapons, but that could take years and cost millions of lives. No, I think we have to go all out. I think that this situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done on somebody's part.

Posted by: Otter, Former Registered Republican at April 28, 2010 12:11 PM (QKKT0)

19

13 Get some women in there

Picture the moronettes of the ONT in the Senate.  Bwaahhhh.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at April 28, 2010 12:11 PM (cniXs)

20 Somebody finally bought Palm....HP $5.70 a share  Rubinstein, CEO is expected to remain with the company.   per CNBC

Think this and the bill are interconnected:  " "Support the Sanders-Feingold-DeMint-Leahy-McCain-Vitter-Brownback Federal Reserve Transparency Amendment to the Financial Reform Bill"

Posted by: curious at April 28, 2010 12:12 PM (p302b)

21 endless bailouts, lets party!

Posted by: Dan at April 28, 2010 12:12 PM (1jzSs)

22 Got a link?

Posted by: SlaveDog at April 28, 2010 12:13 PM (H6Jyg)

23 Morris: "This is a bill the Republican Party can kill with political impunity, and hopefully they will have the courage to do so."

Electoral impunity, yes. Political, no.

Voters don't decide who's allowed to run for office, whose campaigns get sabotaged by the Party, who gets a Street job in exchange for doing what he's told when he's in office, or who gets forced out of office if he doesn't.

Elections are a minuscule, rarely significant fraction of politics.

Posted by: oblig. at April 28, 2010 12:13 PM (x7Ao8)

24

Sen. Richard Shelby, the top Republican on the Senate Banking committee, said he has assurances that Democrats will adjust his banking regulation bill to address concerns that it perpetuates bailouts.   

http://tinyurl.com/3xly2qb

 

Charlie Brown, Lucy, football.

Posted by: Cicero at April 28, 2010 12:14 PM (QKKT0)

25 19 Anything would be better than those "things" from Maine.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at April 28, 2010 12:14 PM (IIQIM)

26

Get some women in there.

 

The females in the GOP are some of the worst RINOs (looking at you Maine, and #3 in earmarks Hutchinson).  Female voters seem to be big fans of a nanny state.

Posted by: it's old at April 28, 2010 12:14 PM (DlXP/)

27 From the Speaker's Lobby:

Senior Senate GOP aides tell Fox that Republicans are now ready to move forward with debate on a financial reform bill, after top Banking Committee Republican Richard Shelby, R-AL, secured an agreement with Chairman Chris Dodd, D-CT, on how to wind down complex, failing firms. Debate could begin as early as Wednesday.

RINO Shelby sold us out for a pot O' Beans.

Posted by: Vic at April 28, 2010 12:14 PM (QrA9E)

28 Sorry lacey - but it's my guess that it's one of the Maine dingbat sisters who cracked first. Followed closely by Ben Nelson (D-BRK.A) and perhaps (breaks my heart to say it) Scotty Brown. Love to be wrong about that, but you have to stipulate to it's absolutely plausibility, no?

Posted by: DocJ at April 28, 2010 12:14 PM (dt6br)

29 It looks like Harry going all in - and going to try and slam thru the whole package of crap before the economy really implodes.

Posted by: Jean at April 28, 2010 12:15 PM (6Njk9)

30 Got a link?

Posted by: SlaveDog at April 28, 2010 04:13 PM (H6Jyg)

Links are only available after applying to the federal national government for a link license.  That was in the Porkulus, page 1632, paragraph 14, section a1.32.1.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at April 28, 2010 12:15 PM (N49h9)

31

"Senate Republicans are prepared to end their stalling tactics on new banking regulations..."

http://tinyurl.com/3xly2qb

Nice bit of evenhanded reporting by the Washington Post.

Posted by: Cicero at April 28, 2010 12:17 PM (QKKT0)

32 Doesn't matter what it's in the bill.  All that matters is that there is a bill, which just keeps the class warfare/soak Wall Street rhetoric inflamed.

Posted by: DNC at April 28, 2010 12:17 PM (DlXP/)

33 Senior Senate GOP aides tell Fox that Republicans are now ready to move forward with debate on a financial reform bill, after top Banking Committee Republican Richard Shelby, R-AL, secured an agreement with Chairman Chris Dodd, D-CT, on how to wind down complex, failing firms. Debate could begin as early as Wednesday.

I hope they bring their long spoons. 

These GOPers are just dumb.  Really, really dumb.  And cowards.  Dumb and cowardly.  And pathetic.  Dumb, pathetic cowards ...

Posted by: progressoverpeace at April 28, 2010 12:17 PM (N49h9)

34

My Way.

I One.

I'm the Wun!!!!!

GO SYCACUSE!!!!

Posted by: Barack Obama at April 28, 2010 12:17 PM (pRj5D)

35

Yeah, of course it was those scrunts. I'm with you there, but they're not real women. And they're certainly not conservative women. I don't know what the hell they are truth be told.

I want some Tea Party women. Unabashed, unafraid, and unrelenting. They're out there getting shit done. (Did you hear that someguy?)

Posted by: laceyunderalls at April 28, 2010 12:18 PM (IIQIM)

36 What the hella we suppozed to do, ya moron?

Posted by: Stork, 100% pissed off at April 28, 2010 12:18 PM (gxpfq)

37

 

Of course they did. The Republicans love the regulations and they're in awe of the Democrat's bold power-grab.

That's why the GOP's "We don't want to repeal Obama's policies, we just want to make them better" is why we won't win either chamber in November.

Yeah, I know, I'm an eeyore, or whatever. This is reality.

Posted by: So-So the monkey at April 28, 2010 12:18 PM (uFokq)

38

The Republican Caucus stars in:

We're Just Not That Into You

Posted by: Republican Senators at April 28, 2010 12:19 PM (pRj5D)

39

 

We better warm up to the idea of 3rd party candidates soon because we are going to lose with these douch bags, anyway.

 

Posted by: So-So the monkey at April 28, 2010 12:19 PM (uFokq)

40

The females in the GOP are some of the worst RINOs (looking at you Maine, and #3 in earmarks Hutchinson).  Female voters seem to be big fans of a nanny state.

Posted by: it's old

Not me.

I'm stealing this from buzzsawmonkey: Can we hold the GOP convention at the Carlsbad Caverns, since they cave so regularly?

My suggestion: We turn out the lights and lose all the incumbents.

Posted by: Dianna at April 28, 2010 12:19 PM (qrFCz)

41 Punch UP Skirts!

Posted by: ScumGuy at April 28, 2010 12:20 PM (pRj5D)

42

26 Anything would be better than those "things" from Maine.

Moronettes would be way better.  We have much bigger balls than the rinos in congress.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at April 28, 2010 12:20 PM (cniXs)

43 Point taken, lacey. With you 100%.

Posted by: DocJ at April 28, 2010 12:20 PM (dt6br)

44 Picture the moronettes of the ONT in the Senate.  Bwaahhhh.

Stompy boot futures rising sharply.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at April 28, 2010 12:21 PM (mR7mk)

45
Tea Party= good
Tar and Feather Party= better

Posted by: Atomic Roach at April 28, 2010 12:21 PM (Oxen1)

46

 

oh and my purity test isn't really that strict. It's one rather simple question: Will you promise not to help the other side win?

Posted by: So-So the monkey at April 28, 2010 12:21 PM (uFokq)

47 They were doing a piss poor job of explaining why they were filibustering.  Very little mention of the permanent bailout.  Instead, lots of defensive muling about wanting to compromise.  Same ol same ol.  Good thing we've "reformed the GOP from within"TM

Posted by: Les Grossman at April 28, 2010 12:21 PM (jat5l)

48 These asswipes need a pep talk from someguy.

Posted by: fluffy at April 28, 2010 12:21 PM (4Kl5M)

49

I'm so not a Republican anymore. I mean really. I'm just ... not.

Posted by: Joanna at April 28, 2010 12:21 PM (7+WuG)

50

I haven't been this shocked since the Beatles broke-up!

 

 

Posted by: dananjcon at April 28, 2010 12:22 PM (pr+up)

Posted by: Atomic Roach at April 28, 2010 12:23 PM (Oxen1)

52 These asswipes need a pep talk from someguy. Patton.

Posted by: garrett at April 28, 2010 12:23 PM (pRj5D)

53 Did I do thaaaaat?

Posted by: Dick Morris at April 28, 2010 12:24 PM (HlBxa)

54 Republicans cave? Why is there no flaming skull? This is a watershed event in the history of the Party of Rock-Solid Prinicipled Stands for Capitalism and Free Markets!

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 28, 2010 12:24 PM (xGIqT)

55

Stompy boot futures rising sharply.

Forget the stompy boots.

We're all on the same cycle. We would fuck their shit up if I may be so blunt!

Posted by: laceyunderalls at April 28, 2010 12:24 PM (IIQIM)

56
Republicans couldn't win a  "no blink" off against Pelosi.

Posted by: Atomic Roach at April 28, 2010 12:24 PM (Oxen1)

57 you think maybe Michael Steele told them it was okay to try and look bipartisan?

Posted by: Ira at April 28, 2010 12:24 PM (bJm7W)

58 I'm going to miss you, America.  It was nice knowing you, for the all-too-brief interlude between the time I graduated and it all turned to shit.  I only got to live as an adult in a free country for a little while.  It's too bad, really, that I don't recognize my own country any more. 

Ah, well, it all went to hell when Nixon closed the gold window.  Since that happened, this was inevitable. Endless bailouts.  Executive power to nationalize financial institutions.  Game over, man.  Game.  Over.


Posted by: Phinn at April 28, 2010 12:24 PM (emFX5)

59 From TPM:

In a statement just released, Sen. Richard Shelby (R-AL) says that his negotiations with Sen. Chris Dodd (D-CT) have hit an impasse and "will not produce additional results." He said Dodd assured him that steps will be taken to ensure the end of bailouts -- but he deferred the decision of whether to bring the bill to the floor to leadership.

"While these changes are significant and meaningful, they are not sufficient to garner my support for moving this bill to the Senate floor. Now that my negotiations with Chairman Dodd have reached an impasse, I thank my Republican colleagues for their support and defer to their individual judgments on whether the Senate begins a floor debate on this bill."

Followed by:

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell just released a statement confirming that Republicans will allow financial reform legislation onto the floor:

"Now that those bipartisan negotiations have ended, it is my hope that the majority's avowed interest in improving this legislation on the Senate floor is genuine and the partisan gamesmanship is over."



Posted by: Boehner at April 28, 2010 12:24 PM (NH3wr)

60 We got the Alabama crackah to fold you bunch of racist mofo's.

Posted by: Barack at April 28, 2010 12:25 PM (EL+OC)

61 Whoops, forgot the link.

http://tinyurl.com/2u28mo8

Posted by: Boehner at April 28, 2010 12:25 PM (NH3wr)

62

 

I can't imagine what rider these scumbag Democrats are gonna attach to this so-called reform bill as they did with taking over student loans in The Big Fucking Deal.

Posted by: So-So the monkey at April 28, 2010 12:26 PM (uFokq)

63 Unheeded advice from Dick Morris?

Well, that's outrageous.

Posted by: The new White Party "Southern Strategy" at April 28, 2010 12:26 PM (lNSC1)

64 Damnit, and I forgot to change my name back.

Posted by: enoxo at April 28, 2010 12:26 PM (NH3wr)

65 Republicans couldn't win a "no blink" off against Pelosi. .... heh ...

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at April 28, 2010 12:26 PM (a9UO0)

66 remember to this lot "bi-partisan" is giving into everything the Dems want

Posted by: thegreatsatan at April 28, 2010 12:26 PM (MV5kD)

67 fuck the senate GOP. i'm done.

Posted by: hueydiamondpooty at April 28, 2010 12:27 PM (0rzr8)

68 oh, but let's keep a little perspective here: what do you want to hear in Jan 2011, the election of House Speaker John Boehner or House Squeeker Nancy Pelosi..?

Posted by: Ira at April 28, 2010 12:28 PM (bJm7W)

69

 

I can't believe they're working with Dodd, of all people!

Dodd should be treated as toxic material. He should've been ostracized by the Republicans because a) he's a piece of shit, and b) it's a smart political move.

These Republicans are just plain fucking stupid.

Posted by: So-So the monkey at April 28, 2010 12:28 PM (uFokq)

70 McConnell, you worthless fucking asshole.

Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at April 28, 2010 12:28 PM (HlBxa)

71

O/T:  Drudge headline.

NEW WORLD ORDER:  Obama concerned about Greek debt, monitoring closely

Our debt's fine.  Now, that Greek debt...

And the idea of "Obama monitoring closely" makes me feel a certain way--reminds me of something.

Gorman:  Meet me at the south lock.  We're coming in.

Hudson:  He's comin' in.  I feel safer already.

Posted by: rdbrewer at April 28, 2010 12:28 PM (DtR3z)

72

See Monty's Second Rule of Politics: politicians will always disappoint you. Always.

 

Posted by: Monty at April 28, 2010 12:29 PM (4Pleu)

73 Yes that is unfortunate.  Despite it being a bad image thing fillibustering this had the benefit of stopping what is probably more bad legislation and also just delaying business in general.  There are too many months left until November.

Posted by: doug at April 28, 2010 12:29 PM (Mx+Wi)

74

 

STFU, eggmcmuffin, you racist dunce.

Posted by: So-So the monkey at April 28, 2010 12:29 PM (uFokq)

75 The Senate is truly awful.  Repeal the 17th amendment.  Now.

Posted by: mr crowley at April 28, 2010 12:29 PM (DlXP/)

77 68 fuck the senate GOP. i'm done.

I think I am too. I've been on the verge of changing my party registration back to independent any number of times over the past five years but now I think I'm about ready to pull the plug. If I don't have a party that will fight THIS shit then I don't have a party.

Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at April 28, 2010 12:30 PM (HlBxa)

78

Let them pass this crap sandwich. Do it already.

Let them try the "we feel your pain/we're you on your side" bullshit meme in the coming months. Yeah, that won't confuse and/or piss off the voting electorate as they see the Dems have created perm. bailout loophole.

Asstards.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at April 28, 2010 12:30 PM (IIQIM)

79 $$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$$

look at all that money.  And none for the Republicans.  Crazy how that works.

Posted by: Z Ryan at April 28, 2010 12:31 PM (cMo6P)

80

send money to the GOP! So they can give it to Crist and Specter! wooo hooo

Maxed out to SarahPAC here.

Posted by: Dan at April 28, 2010 12:31 PM (1jzSs)

81 Is there a chance that folding on this issue causes the following to happen:

1. More time is used up by caving, delaying the start of the next major issue longer

2. Repealing this load will be easy

3  Certain vulnerable R Senators (I can't imagine who) get some political cover

If 1 happens, is caving in worth it?

Posted by: Arbalest at April 28, 2010 12:31 PM (BqSr3)

82 I'm gaining a strange new respect for Sen. Shelby.

Posted by: Andi Sullivan at April 28, 2010 12:31 PM (YCVBL)

83 Posted by: rdbrewer at April 28, 2010 04:28 PM (DtR3z)

Guess we will be bailing out the world?

Posted by: curious at April 28, 2010 12:31 PM (p302b)

84 Posted by: Boehner at April 28, 2010 04:25 PM (NH3wr)

From reading that link it looks like they need to get together and talk to each other for real because they are miscommunicating OR Fox has it wrong.

Maybe they are and maybe they ain't going to go forward.

BTW folks; Shelby is till a RINO. Although he improved in 2008 he has a lifetime rating of 75, well within the RINO category.  Why is it that two of the reddest States in the union have two of the biggest back stabbing RINOs in the Republican Party?  Al-Shelby; SC-Graham.


Posted by: Vic at April 28, 2010 12:32 PM (QrA9E)

85

 

hmmmmmm, the chances that caving is all part of a Senate Republican cunning plan...

about 1 in a 1,000,000,000,000,000,000.

Posted by: So-So the monkey at April 28, 2010 12:33 PM (uFokq)

86 Not sure its a bad idea to give the democrats more rope. They seem to know what to do with it.

Posted by: kansas at April 28, 2010 12:33 PM (mka2b)

87 The RINO retirement and quail party has lost it BB's again? We need to run these bastards right out of politics. They are just about completely worthless.

Posted by: maddogg at April 28, 2010 12:34 PM (OlN4e)

88 Sen. Richard Shelby, the top Republican on the Senate Banking committee, said he has assurances that Democrats will adjust his banking regulation bill to address concerns that it perpetuates bailouts.

The credibility of a turncoat:
"Shelby began to vote with Republicans along party lines and a day after the GOP took control of the Senate in 1994, Shelby announced his switch. It wasn’t a surprise. Saying that Democrats were trying to “create a government of dependency, to create larger bureaucracy, to create something really similar to the European welfare state,” Shelby told reporters, “You don’t know how free I feel.” [...]

Still, Shelby’s move came in direct contradiction to his earlier pro-Democrat comments. “I have been a Democrat all my life,” he told the Birmingham Post-Herald newspaper. “I guess I was born a Democrat.”"

Posted by: Garbonzo the Garrulous at April 28, 2010 12:34 PM (zgd5N)

89 The only thing I can figure that Republicans have to gain on this is that they are positioning themselves as compromising and being bi-partisan, and when Dems refuse to make the corrections they were "promised", they'll filibuster again.

But the problem with that is... well... Reconciliation.  Once debate begins, they lose their blocking method.  Plus who knows what the Dems will attach to this like they did the student loan takeover to the healthcare bill.

Posted by: enoxo at April 28, 2010 12:34 PM (NH3wr)

90 Profiles in courage.

Posted by: Y-not at April 28, 2010 12:34 PM (Kn9r7)

91 I just read somewhere that Harry is going for cap and trade next so he must think this is a done deal?

Posted by: curious at April 28, 2010 12:35 PM (p302b)

92 60 -thanks: Is there another vote to end debate before they vote on the bill? ie is there a slim chance that the POS can still be fillibustered? as that sounded like the GOP was allowing debate on the bill to start. I don't have much faith but is it possible, they can let the dems show themselves as sleazy, unwilling to drop the move to the CHICAGO mercantile etc etc and then still block the bill?

Posted by: Palerider at April 28, 2010 12:36 PM (dkExz)

93 The commenters on Zero Hedge are speculating as to who "was bought"...

Posted by: curious at April 28, 2010 12:36 PM (p302b)

94 But did they Cave-Cave?

Posted by: Whoopi "Does my ass still look bid" Goldberg at April 28, 2010 12:36 PM (YVZlY)

95 78 68 fuck the senate GOP. i'm done.

I think I am too. I've been on the verge of changing my party registration back to independent any number of times over the past five years but now I think I'm about ready to pull the plug. If I don't have a party that will fight THIS shit then I don't have a party.

Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at April 28, 2010 04:30 PM (HlBxa)

This reminds me of the comments everyone was making back when the Shamnesty was trying to be driven down our throats.  Many people left the GOP and the party went down the tubes, opening the US up to an ineligible retard and full-blown devastation.  The GOP seems to have liked that and are trying to go for a replay.  They are just too stupid and cowardly to do anything right.

I'd prefer third party candidates, at this point.  The GOP is worthless and lives to do nothing but suck the asses of the America-hating dems and their third world wonder-retard.

I am going for every third party candidate who has a chance.  Enough is enough.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at April 28, 2010 12:36 PM (N49h9)

96 Why is it that two of the reddest States in the union have two of the biggest back stabbing RINOs in the Republican Party?  Al-Shelby; SC-Graham.

Because southerners are a bunch of inbred graft taking mother fuckers?

Posted by: Barbarian at April 28, 2010 12:37 PM (EL+OC)

97

 

I am going for every third party candidate who has a chance.

Helloooo, there!

Posted by: Charlie fucking Crist at April 28, 2010 12:38 PM (uFokq)

98 94 60 -thanks: Is there another vote to end debate before they vote on the bill? ie is there a slim chance that the POS can still be fillibustered? as that sounded like the GOP was allowing debate on the bill to start. I don't have much faith but is it possible, they can let the dems show themselves as sleazy, unwilling to drop the move to the CHICAGO mercantile etc etc and then still block the bill?

Posted by: Palerider at April 28, 2010 04:36 PM (dkExz)

Normally, there is another vote to end the debate before they vote on the bill and that can be filibustered.  But not if the Dems make it a reconciliation bill like they did healthcare, and if they see Republicans considering blocking it--they will.

Posted by: enoxo at April 28, 2010 12:39 PM (NH3wr)

99

I am going for every third party candidate who has a chance.

Helloooo, there!

Posted by: Charlie fucking Crist at April 28, 2010 04:38 PM (uFokq)

LOL.  Okay, "third party CONSERVATIVE candidate".

Posted by: progressoverpeace at April 28, 2010 12:39 PM (N49h9)

100 what a shock

Posted by: Socratease at April 28, 2010 12:39 PM (nJmDs)

101 Hey! If any of you are looking for any last-minute gift ideas for me, I have one. I'd like Frank Shirley, my boss all the shitstains in the GOP right here tonight. I want them brought here with a  big ribbon on their head, and I want to look them straight in the eye and I want to tell them what a cheap, lying, no-good, rotten, four-flushing, low-life, snake-licking, dirt-eating, inbred, overstuffed, ignorant, blood-sucking, dog-kissing, brainless, dickless, hopeless, heartless, fat-ass, bug-eyed, stiff-legged, spotty-lipped, worm-headed sack of monkey shit they are. Hallelujah! Holy shit! Where's the Tylenol?

Posted by: laceyunderalls chanelling Clark Griswold at April 28, 2010 12:39 PM (IIQIM)

102

Please tell me there IS (and there WAS) a strategy with the GOP?

And please enlighten me on who the genius (or maybe geniuses) that came up with this winning strategy and the reasoning?

Where are the adults?

Posted by: always right at April 28, 2010 12:40 PM (0AClR)

103

LOL.  Okay, "third party CONSERVATIVE candidate loser".

Posted by: progressoverpeace

Fixed, and yes that means permanent Democrat government.

Posted by: Garbonzo the Garrulous at April 28, 2010 12:40 PM (zgd5N)

104 Mush-mouth McConnell sucks.  Give us a real leader in the Senate, like Demint. 

Posted by: Marybeth at April 28, 2010 12:41 PM (hBRoa)

105

 

Up here in Massachusetts we have a complete shithead running for governor. He and the other asshole (I) candidate are duking it out, which will give us another 4 years of lil Obama, Deval Patrick.

I hate politicians, save but a few. They care about nothing but themselves

Posted by: So-So the monkey at April 28, 2010 12:41 PM (uFokq)

106 Followed by:

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell just released a statement confirming that Republicans will allow financial reform legislation onto the floor:

"Now that those bipartisan negotiations have ended, it is my hope that the majority's avowed interest in improving this legislation on the Senate floor is genuine and the partisan gamesmanship is over."  not cumming in our Mouths."

...aaaand, fixed.

Posted by: garrett at April 28, 2010 12:41 PM (pRj5D)

107 Dude, I have more backbone than these fuckers.

Posted by: Parasitic Nematode at April 28, 2010 12:41 PM (ZSVyF)

108 Sen. Shelby, will you kiss me?

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at April 28, 2010 12:41 PM (7VvJB)

109

 

Yes, Monty, your Montyisms are 100% true.

 

Posted by: So-So the monkey at April 28, 2010 12:42 PM (uFokq)

110

Where are the adults?

Posted by: always right at April 28, 2010 04:40 PM (0AClR)

Evidently, they all died some time ago - probably around the time the Soviet Union fell.  There's nothing but children left.  The adults are loooong gone.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at April 28, 2010 12:42 PM (N49h9)

111 Because southerners are a bunch of inbred graft taking mother fuckers? Posted by: Barbarian at April 28, 2010 04:37 PM (EL+OC) We do NOT fuck our mothers! (What?)

Posted by: joncelli at April 28, 2010 12:42 PM (RD7QR)

112

Picture of McConnell bluffing again:

Now that those bipartisan negotiations have ended, it is my hope that the majority's avowed interest in improving this legislation on the Senate floor is genuine and the partisan gamesmanship is over.

We gain so much with collegiality.  That's been proven time and again.  Since we can always count on Demcrats to be collegial as well.

I'm glad McConnell has faith the partisan gamesmanship is over.  That reassures me.

No more partisan gamesmanship.  From our side.

Posted by: rdbrewer at April 28, 2010 12:42 PM (DtR3z)

113 Ugh this is the modus operandi that they follow ....it's working well for them....the republicans have no fortitude whatsoever.

Posted by: curious at April 28, 2010 12:43 PM (p302b)

114 Posted by: garrett at April 28, 2010 04:41 PM (pRj5D)

Thanks... it's going to take a while to get THAT image out of my head.

Posted by: enoxo at April 28, 2010 12:43 PM (NH3wr)

115 This is the moving forward with debate vote, then we get the amendment cluster, followed by however they plan to reconcile this with the House crap.

Posted by: Jean at April 28, 2010 12:43 PM (h0rZ/)

116 I am going for every third party candidate who has a chance.

Problem is, I can't think of any that do. The GOP knows it too. Thus they can always pull the Erickson Gambit: "Sure the Republicans suck but do you really want Democrats to win elections? Now, donate and vote for Candiates A, B, and C."

And then, when our Grand Old Party turns around and allows the Dems to do literally everything they want, our fingerprints are on all of it by proxy.

No more. I'm willing to bet Scott Brown is one of the cavers and I'd like to call him up and demand the money I wasted on him in January back.

Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at April 28, 2010 12:43 PM (HlBxa)

117

 

Here's one of my old -isms that unfortunately does not still hold true.

Years ago when asked why I voted for Republicans I said, "Because Democrats promise me everything and give me nothing, whereas Republicans promise me nothing and give me nothing."

 

Posted by: So-So the monkey at April 28, 2010 12:44 PM (uFokq)

118

I haven't been this shocked since Joanie fell in love with Potsie.

 

 

 

Posted by: dananjcon at April 28, 2010 12:44 PM (pr+up)

119 Fixed, and yes that means permanent Democrat government.

Posted by: Garbonzo the Garrulous at April 28, 2010 04:40 PM (zgd5N)

As opposed to the GOP putting their stamp of approval on a permanent, unlimited, national government?

The dems won't last long.  Things will just break.  And the GOP seems to offer no alternative.  What else is there?  I'll just wait it out with third partiers until some states secede and there is a place to go.  The way California has declared total war on Arizona, without a peep from anyone, that split is not very far off.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at April 28, 2010 12:44 PM (N49h9)

120 Because southerners are a bunch of inbred graft taking mother fuckers?

Posted by: Barbarian at April 28, 2010 04:37 PM (EL+OC)


Well FU 2.

Posted by: Vic at April 28, 2010 12:44 PM (QrA9E)

121 He said Dodd assured him that steps will be taken to ensure the end of bailouts

Bwaaahhahhhahhhhaaa.  Assurances?  Dodd?  And Shelby believed him?

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at April 28, 2010 12:45 PM (7VvJB)

122 This story deserves the flaming bag of poop. I, for one, certainly feel like the GOP has left another one on my doorstep.

Posted by: Socratease at April 28, 2010 12:45 PM (nJmDs)

123 "Amongst the many swell things that Josh touted was his contribution to the accelerated use of the equities market in the SPG hedging and trading activity.

Bingo! Josh may have opened up to something that could blow up for Goldie".

Posted by: curious at April 28, 2010 12:48 PM (p302b)

124 Because party-switching southerners Democrats are a bunch of inbred graft taking mother fuckers?

Posted by: Barbarian at April 28, 2010 04:37 PM (EL+OC)


FIFY, dipshit.

Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at April 28, 2010 12:49 PM (HlBxa)

125 Folks don't give up quite yet, the link at 60 shows there is some confusion among the R leadership here and they are meeting right now.

It is still possible that they will continue to block debate.

Posted by: Vic at April 28, 2010 12:49 PM (QrA9E)

126 I'm willing to bet Scott Brown is one of the cavers

I'll take that bet.  How much?

Posted by: HeatherRadish at April 28, 2010 12:50 PM (mR7mk)

127 103  Go Lacey!  +1000

Posted by: Count de Monet at April 28, 2010 12:51 PM (2g2ex)

128

 

How much?

Nuts. Left ones.

Posted by: So-So the monkey at April 28, 2010 12:52 PM (uFokq)

129

Thanks... it's going to take a while to get THAT image out of my head.

Apologies. 

McConnel was being overtly verbose.

 

Posted by: garrett at April 28, 2010 12:52 PM (pRj5D)

130 what is so fascinating is that they are trying to figure out what is in the bill on Zero Hedge and someone just asked "does anyone know what is in the bill when it is voted on?"   Makes you wonder about that....I mean could you add what you want later if you never post the bill on line for comments like you promised you would?

Posted by: curious at April 28, 2010 12:52 PM (p302b)

131 Well it's not over yet.  They will also need 60 votes to end debate.  Shelby et al. have "assurances" that the Dems will "improve" the bill, so if those "improvements" don't materialize and/or are sham jobs, then we will have another opportunity to pressure the GOP to stand firm and not end debate.

Posted by: chemjeff at April 28, 2010 12:53 PM (pTyL2)

132

This was well played by the Democrats. For Republicans to go along with it meant to shut and swallow. To fight it meant the Dems could point out how Republicans always protect evil Big Businesssss.

Dumb ass republicans fell right into this one. They should have siezed the initiative and proposed some outlandish regulations that would have resonated with the rubes and forced the dems into equally unsavory choices.

Posted by: TakeFive at April 28, 2010 12:53 PM (/3pxq)

133 Posted by: laceyunderalls chanelling Clark Griswold at April 28, 2010 04:39 PM (IIQIM)

I'll be right back. Got a, uh, errand to run.

Posted by: Cousin Eddie at April 28, 2010 12:53 PM (HlBxa)

134

 

Amazing.

We had Dodd, and by extension the Democrats, by the balls and now these assholes are working with for Dodd and doing the Democrat's bidding.

Posted by: So-So the monkey at April 28, 2010 12:54 PM (uFokq)

135

Because southerners are a bunch of inbred graft taking mother fuckers?

That's what they taught this Yankee!

I've been 'italicized'!!!!!

Posted by: garrett at April 28, 2010 12:54 PM (pRj5D)

136 I'm willing to bet Scott Brown is one of the cavers I'll take that bet. How much? He better not be. Stand up, don't piss on the base.

Posted by: fluffy, masshole at April 28, 2010 12:54 PM (4Kl5M)

137 "Because southerners are a bunch of inbred graft taking mother fuckers? Posted by: Barbarian at April 28, 2010 04:37 PM (EL+OC)" Do you kiss your momma's snatch with that mouth, boy?

Posted by: Bugler at April 28, 2010 12:54 PM (YCVBL)

138 Well FU 2.

Truth hurts.

Posted by: Barbarian at April 28, 2010 12:55 PM (EL+OC)

139 The way California has declared total war on Arizona, without a peep from anyone, that split is not very far off.


Here's proof that the dickheads that run things in my beloved Clownifornia have Dairy Cow-level IQs.

A large portion of Southern California's water comes from the Colorado river, which runs through Arizona.

Arizona power plants provide a large portion of Southern California's electrical power, because Calif. tree-huggers have blocked most new electrical power plant construction.

And they're talking about boycotting AZ.....

Posted by: Parasitic Nematode at April 28, 2010 12:55 PM (ZSVyF)

140 31 Links are only available after applying to the national government for a link license. That was in the Porkulus, page 1632, paragraph 14, section a1.32.1.
________________

The good news is that it only takes 120 days for approval.

Posted by: Anachronda at April 28, 2010 12:55 PM (3K4hn)

141 Makes you wonder about that....I mean could you add what you want later if you never post the bill on line for comments like you promised you would?

Posted by: curious at April 28, 2010 04:52 PM (p302b)

DeMint was saying on Greta that they were negotiating reasonably on the bill for months, but then Dodd would go to the White House and come back with all new stuff and just shove it in.  Then, out of nowhere, a bill appeared that had nothing in it that the GOP had been negotiating for - just a new bill *poof* and that was what they tried to ram through the vote to open debate.  It was insane.

I still can't figure out why Dodd isn't in federal prison.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at April 28, 2010 12:55 PM (N49h9)

Posted by: curious at April 28, 2010 12:55 PM (p302b)

143 Oopsy, Sock-fail.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 28, 2010 12:55 PM (ZSVyF)

144 Chemjeff, these fucking Democrats furiously rewrite bills AFTER they've passed. Any assurances or pot-sweeteners from them mean dick even if they do materialize. The time to kill this thing is now.

Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at April 28, 2010 12:56 PM (HlBxa)

145 LESBIANS11!1!!1!!!1

Posted by: RNC at April 28, 2010 12:56 PM (w9bVp)

146 I think I need something more than Tylenol®.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at April 28, 2010 12:56 PM (IIQIM)

147

They know the odds are in their favor, especially now with the electorate moving right.  They also know that by-in-large, most people can be made to believe anything.  Look at who has been seeking the microphones; Kyl, McConnell, etc., the long timers - spewing bilge.  Look at the Republicans in the GS hearings trying to make certain that in the end you believe it was all Wall Street that caused the meltdown.

Bottom line they won't stop until, we are, as the Munchkins sang in the Wizard of Oz,

"...not only merely dead, but really most sincerely dead."

Look, I say vote conservative, and I will, but I believe in the end, we will wind up only slight less screwed.  It isn't that the politicians are only corrupt, the whole system has been corrupted.  It needs to be rolled back - like before the depression, or as Barry is fond of saying - reset.  Bottom line: $110 Trillion in unpaid for obligations.  Greece and Portugal have nothing on us and what's wrong cannot be fixed doing what the politicians are doing now.

And that's just my ignorant opinion.


 

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at April 28, 2010 12:56 PM (r1h5M)

148 Those weak spine bastards are hopeless.

Posted by: rplat at April 28, 2010 12:56 PM (G1ArL)

149 I still can't figure out why Dodd isn't in federal prison.

He's a Democrat?

Posted by: HeatherRadish at April 28, 2010 12:56 PM (mR7mk)

150 The GOP upper echelon are all Cowardly Corrupt Charlie Crists. I'd change my mind and say it might be easier at this point to start a new third party and build from the ground up then to get rid of all these GOP swamp monsters. But I'm doubtful we'll make it to the 2010 elections. The left are terrified - evidenced by the rumored Puerto Rico statehood vote - and I imagine the leftist tyranny hammer will come down swiftly and soon. I'm talking martial law and an end to all liberties. It will be the only way to prevent losing power. This close to the finish line the left will not surrender power. Sadly the GOP seems more than willing to let them keep it.

Posted by: ChicagoJedi at April 28, 2010 12:57 PM (WZFkG)

151 Posted by: Barbarian at April 28, 2010 04:55 PM (EL+OC)

I'd love to hear where you hail from, comewad.

Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at April 28, 2010 12:57 PM (HlBxa)

152 Posted by: Parasitic Nematode at April 28, 2010 04:55 PM (ZSVyF)

the funniest thing I heard today was to boycott Arizona iced tea....

The stuff is from new york, not Arizona, Arizona is only the name....but there are clips of these idiots saying to boycott the tea....too too funny

Posted by: curious at April 28, 2010 12:57 PM (p302b)

153 Okay, I'm sorry, but this is all fucking planned, now.  If you were to write a script on how to become a single party country this is how you would do it:

1.) Get large majority by single party.
2.) Use large majority to ruin the national economically and piss of 75% of the electorate, ripe for a complete change of power.
3.) Opposition party ready to take large gains in the driver seat completely capitulate to the lame ducks.

Posted by: Editor at April 28, 2010 12:58 PM (pUfK9)

154 In other news, the white house press corpse panties are in a twist 'cause the bad Pwecedent won't pway wif dem....   waahhhh!!!!   The correspondents association recently met with Gibbs to discuss, in the words of Bloomberg's Ed Chen, "a level of anger, which is wide and deep, among members over White House practices and attitude toward the press.”

today's Politico

Posted by: kallisto at April 28, 2010 12:58 PM (+FkcS)

155 No matter how deep and passionate my hatred for the Democrats, the Republicans never fail to remind me how much I hate those motherfuckers too.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 28, 2010 12:58 PM (DsU01)

156 148 I think I need something more than Tylenol®.

Yeah, me too.

Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at April 28, 2010 12:59 PM (HlBxa)

157

So all this means is they just threw the dems a bone; they're REALLY, REALLY gonna fight hard against Cap n Tax and Amnesty....right!!!! Right? Guys...hello...

is this thing on?? hello...

hello?

hello...

 

 

Posted by: dananjcon at April 28, 2010 12:59 PM (pr+up)

158 This thread is starting to read like the thread just before they passed that wonderful HC bill....

the ups and the downs..ugh

Posted by: curious at April 28, 2010 12:59 PM (p302b)

159

Shit. The only reason I'm registered as a Republican down here in FL is that you can't vote in a primary as an independent, which I was back in 'Bama.

Oh, and Barbarian, you can go fuck yourself.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at April 28, 2010 12:59 PM (i3AsK)

160 I still can't figure out why Dodd isn't in federal prison.


*whistles absently*

Posted by: AG Eric Holder at April 28, 2010 01:00 PM (ZSVyF)

161 Anyone STILL want to defend that McConnell POS?

Didn't think so.

Posted by: grognard at April 28, 2010 01:00 PM (v0kvW)

162

And they're talking about boycotting AZ.....

I'd love to see AZ turn that CAP water off and treat the Californians like a bunch of Ag. Ranchers!
Uh, sorry...there's a micro-organism we're concerned about in the Colorado River Basin. It appears the madupazoa is being threatened by a lack of Colorado River Streamflow.

Posted by: garrett at April 28, 2010 01:01 PM (pRj5D)

163

 

stop the biccering, chillun.

if you want to lash out at somebody, go to the Gordon Brown thread and abuse Dr Mabuse.

Posted by: So-So the monkey at April 28, 2010 01:01 PM (uFokq)

164 what is so fascinating is that they are trying to figure out what is in the bill on Zero Hedge and someone just asked "does anyone know what is in the bill when it is voted on?" Makes you wonder about that....I mean could you add what you want later if you never post the bill on line for comments like you promised you would? I'm less than 1/10 of the way through, but it is a freaking mess. Some places they set up procedure down to minute detail. Some places they state that this person or board shall set up rules for a procedure 12 months after passage. There is a section on subpoena power that states, essentially, "Let's mimic the way the FDIC does it." Kill the bill.

Posted by: fluffy at April 28, 2010 01:01 PM (4Kl5M)

165 I'm boycotting caves.

Posted by: FireHorse at April 28, 2010 01:03 PM (cQyWA)

166 Aren't all these anti-AZ folks...anti-government? They must be quashed!

Posted by: joeindc44 at April 28, 2010 01:03 PM (QxSug)

167 158 Never watched Star Trek in all my days but I thoroughly enjoyed that!

Posted by: laceyunderalls at April 28, 2010 01:03 PM (IIQIM)

168 lyndseyfifield tweeted: Okay, Republicans, just show us on the doll where Harry Reid touched you

Posted by: conscious, but incoherent at April 28, 2010 01:03 PM (YVZlY)

169

148 I think I need something more than Tylenol®.

You need Fuck-It-All, washed down with a quart of Val U Rite.  If that doesn't do it, commence hobo hunt at sundown.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at April 28, 2010 01:04 PM (cniXs)

170 Because southerners are a bunch of inbred graft taking mother fuckers? I'm glad to see I'm not the only Southerner ready to beat you unconscious with Huey P. Long's skull. Yankees and left coasters elected Obama, so put that in a cock and smoke it.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 28, 2010 01:04 PM (xGIqT)

171 Look folks ... there is only one way to fix this crap.

Take over the Republican Party.

Until conservatives take over the Republican Party, its n omination process will continue to attract Democrat politicians who are not communist enough for the current Dem leadership.

Until we can take over and purge our party, this kind of crap will continue. Do not expect any help in this process by the scrunts already sitting on precinct committees ... they just want you to go away and stop endangering their little fiefdoms.

Posted by: Kristopher at April 28, 2010 01:04 PM (kCEOg)

172 Tell me again why November will be a sweep?

The Republicans are making the same calculus the Tories were in Britain.  The incumbents are unpopular, let's not do anything to rock the boat.  In some ways it's pretty sensible, but you do come off looking unprincipled.

Posted by: Ace's liver at April 28, 2010 01:05 PM (XIXhw)

173 And stop with the anti-southern bigotry please. We do not need any self-made mobys.

I'm a Northerner ... and my home state voted solidly for that a-hole in the Whitehouse.


Posted by: Kristopher at April 28, 2010 01:06 PM (kCEOg)

174 I think that this situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done on somebody's part.

Well, then, you've come to the right place!  Futile and stupid gestures are our specialty!

Posted by: The Republican Party at April 28, 2010 01:06 PM (4YUWF)

175 Kill the bill.

Posted by: fluffy at April 28, 2010 05:01 PM (4Kl5M)

I thought I thawt a puttykat heard that before.

Posted by: always right at April 28, 2010 01:07 PM (0AClR)

176 "Careful Republicans...."They're not listening to the market ticket guy, are they?

Posted by: curious at April 28, 2010 01:07 PM (p302b)

177 They wish they were rethuglicans.  From now on they are the: "Clan of the Cave Bear Party"

Posted by: John Galt at April 28, 2010 01:07 PM (F/4zf)

178

170 Thank you so much for bringing the funny with that one!

Sadly, it's so true.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at April 28, 2010 01:07 PM (IIQIM)

179 DeMint was saying on Greta that they were negotiating reasonably on the bill for months, but then Dodd would go to the White House and come back with all new stuff and just shove it in.  Then, out of nowhere, a bill appeared that had nothing in it that the GOP had been negotiating for - just a new bill *poof* and that was what they tried to ram through the vote to open debate.  It was insane.

That has been the Dem strategy all along. It is a PR stunt like Clinton's shutdown of congress.

I just hope the Rs don't fall for it this time.

Posted by: Vic at April 28, 2010 01:08 PM (QrA9E)

180 John Galt: More like Clan of the Carebears.

Cavebears are too mean an image for them.

Posted by: Kristopher at April 28, 2010 01:09 PM (kCEOg)

181

Has anybody seen my balls around here? I seem to have lost them again.

Posted by: Republican Senators at April 28, 2010 01:09 PM (pUO5u)

182 163 Anyone STILL want to defend that McConnell POS?

Right here. McConnell's a brilliant strategist. As for the rest of you old white racist birfers, you all need to shut up and send all your money to my super-duper neato slam-bang can't-lose slate of Republican Senate candidates this fall, consisting of a bunch of no-name state senators and Rand Paul. But definitely no teabagger candidates; you people think I'm going to let you people embarrass me in front of all these GOP congressmen I've got as guest posters? Now everyone start emptying your wallets and kissing my ass or I start handing out the bans. VIGILANCE, COCKSUCKERS. G'BYE.

Posted by: Erick Erickson at April 28, 2010 01:09 PM (HlBxa)

183 141 The way California has declared total war on Arizona, without a peep from anyone, that split is not very far off.

Here's proof that the dickheads that run things in my beloved Clownifornia have Dairy Cow-level IQs.

A large portion of Southern California's water comes from the Colorado river, which runs through Arizona.

Arizona power plants provide a large portion of Southern California's electrical power, because Calif. tree-huggers have blocked most new electrical power plant construction.

And they're talking about boycotting AZ.....

Posted by: Parasitic Nematode at April 28, 2010 04:55 PM (ZSVyF)

Eggs are next... chicken growers in California can't keep their critters in their existing cages, so rather than rebuild their farm, many egg ranchers are moving to Arizona. There's a big complex by Vicksburg Road and I-10 in the Harquehala Valley.

Posted by: Soon to be Ex-ExZonie at April 28, 2010 01:09 PM (as47X)

184 Right next to where those marbles are Senator.

Posted by: Kristopher at April 28, 2010 01:10 PM (kCEOg)

185 Posted by: Erick Erickson at April 28, 2010 05:09 PM (HlBxa)

You forgot to have your goons call me a moby and ban me.

Posted by: grognard at April 28, 2010 01:11 PM (v0kvW)

186

120  I haven't been this shocked since Joanie fell in love with Potsie.

Who and the what now?

Posted by: Chachi "R" Cola at April 28, 2010 01:13 PM (oLULt)

Posted by: curious at April 28, 2010 01:13 PM (p302b)

188 chicken growers in California can't keep their critters in their existing cages

There is way too much fucking government.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at April 28, 2010 01:14 PM (mR7mk)

189

The dems won't last long.  Things will just break.  And the GOP seems to offer no alternative.  What else is there?  I'll just wait it out with third partiers until some states secede and there is a place to go.  The way California has declared total war on Arizona, without a peep from anyone, that split is not very far off.

Posted by: progressoverpeace

Things will just break? Sounds like a lot of hope there.

It's not a given that the country will suddenly shake their collective head and start voting for conservative candidates; see every fucking country in the EU. Socialist governments for years and no change in sight.

I suppose the counter is that the EU and other countries have been reliant upon the US as the dominant economic engine and security provider to support their dismal visions. However, regional powers might hold up for a few decades and the asian dragons might keep the economic engine going.

California has not declared 'total war.' How many divisions does the Left Coast have?  Tanks? Air wings? Oh, I know the 69th Pink Brigade from the Castro District! 

Hyperbole aside, like irrational markets, the political economy can remain socialist longer than you have left on earth.

Posted by: Garbonzo the Garrulous at April 28, 2010 01:14 PM (zgd5N)

Posted by: fluffy at April 28, 2010 01:15 PM (4Kl5M)

191

So sick of this.  Get some women in there. These idiot men can't close the fucking deal.

 

Posted by: laceyunderalls at April 28, 2010 04:09 PM (IIQIM)

True. My BIL is finally getting married. He had a pattern of breaking up with exes and getting back together with them. This ex got back together with him, got pregnant and now they're getting hitched. I think it will work out. He's a great guy and not first to get married "because it's the right thing." But women MAKE THINGS HAPPEN.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at April 28, 2010 01:15 PM (mHQ7T)

192 I'm glad to see I'm not the only Southerner ready to beat you unconscious with Huey P. Long's skull.

I've got the jackhammer and duffelbag; will meet you all at the gravesite on the Capitol lawn in Baton Rouge.

Those fuckers are all in session right now dreaming up new ways to suck money out of us close the deficit; they won't notice anything.

Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at April 28, 2010 01:16 PM (HlBxa)

193

 

Give Them Enough Rope And Let Them Hang Themselves With It is not a sound poltical strategy in the long run and it is an irresponsible and foolish way to govern.

The Republicans have a fiduciary responsibilty to their constituents and have an obligation to uphold the Constitution of the United States.

I say we file a class-action lawsuit against the Republicans for gross negligence, malfeasance, and general ineptitude!

Posted by: So-So the monkey at April 28, 2010 01:16 PM (uFokq)

194

The RINO vs CONSERVATIVE problem can be summed up easily.

PRINCIPLES.

RINOS have no principles.  They lie about who they are to get elected and they nibble at the edges of Conservatism in the Republican Party, but they are not Conservatives.  

Shelby,Snowe, Collins, McCain,  Spector(formerly) that type of Republican.

I've never ever called myself Republican, because I want nothing to do with RINOS.

Crist is simply a piece of shit.

Posted by: gus at April 28, 2010 01:16 PM (Vqruj)

195

120I haven't been this shocked since Joanie fell in love with Potsie.

Posted by: dananjcon

Prepare yourself then:

Per Wiki:

"[Scott] Baio attended Ronald Reagan's state funeral and reportedly sat near Margaret Thatcher; he was quoted as saying: "President Reagan made me feel proud to be an American. Today, I feel sadness". On Twitter, Baio identifies himself as a conservative and a constitutionalist."

Posted by: Garbonzo the Garrulous at April 28, 2010 01:17 PM (zgd5N)

196 Anyone still think November will be a blowout?

Posted by: George Orwell at April 28, 2010 01:17 PM (AZGON)

197

 

I do, G.O.

For the Democrats.

Posted by: So-So the monkey at April 28, 2010 01:19 PM (uFokq)

198 You forgot to have your goons call me a moby and ban me.

Evidently you have problems with reading comprehension. Wait a minute while I put up a new article walking back explaining the last one.

Neil, keep an eye on these people.

Posted by: Erick Erickson at April 28, 2010 01:19 PM (HlBxa)

199 Vichy.

Posted by: davidt at April 28, 2010 01:19 PM (aag4W)

200 Anything would be better than those "things" from Maine.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at April 28, 2010 04:14 PM (IIQIM)

They have something to do with this. NY Magazine just profiled Olympia "Let It" Snowe.

While eyes are fixed on some of the most vocal Republican opponents of Sen. Chris Dodd's financial overhaul bill to see if the measure will be opened up to debate today, Maine Sen. Olympia Snowe's voice could be the most important.

Snowe, a moderate who has crossed party lines before, is being heavily courted by the Democrats to provide the precious 60th vote needed to start debate.

"I'm always willing to be the only Republican if it's the right thing," she said. "It's important to do the right thing in this. Hopefully, we can get the bipartisan support to do it at the outset."

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at April 28, 2010 01:19 PM (mHQ7T)

201

 

I'll ask again: Still think the Democrats are running scared?

 

Posted by: So-So the monkey at April 28, 2010 01:19 PM (uFokq)

202 Sorry, it was the Post.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at April 28, 2010 01:20 PM (mHQ7T)

203 "Why Should You Be Freaked Out About Greece? Remember, The Great Depression Had Two Parts"
sheesh Batchelor has been talking about the PIGS for months and it seems his warnings were indeed on target....





Posted by: curious at April 28, 2010 01:20 PM (p302b)

204 "We're worthless and weak" ought to be the Republican's campaign slogan.  The only thing they have going for them this November is that I hate the Democrats more. 

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at April 28, 2010 01:20 PM (eNxMU)

205 I thought Shelby was once one of the good guys. What happened to him?

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at April 28, 2010 01:23 PM (yfJ6g)

206 208 "We're worthless and weak" ought to be the Republican's campaign slogan.  The only thing they have going for them this November is that I hate the Democrats more.

You're so damn right -- that literally IS the only thing the GOP has going for it in November. Because they have not given anybody a Single. Damn. Reason to vote for them.

The coming Democrat electoral apocalypse is going to be fueled ENTIRELY by America's hatred of them, not because the alternative is particularly appealing.

Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at April 28, 2010 01:23 PM (HlBxa)

207

I made a mistake earlier.  I said Charlie Crist was a piece of shit.

What I meant was, that the Republican Party is a rudderless, leaderless piece of shit.

Michael Steele is worthless as braille porn and nobody seems to be in charge.

 

Posted by: gus at April 28, 2010 01:23 PM (Vqruj)

208 Miss 80's Shelby has no balls. 

Posted by: gus at April 28, 2010 01:24 PM (Vqruj)

209

 

Because they have not given anybody a Single. Damn. Reason to vote for them.

Funny you should say that because when I said those exact words a month ago you called me a concern troll. Glad you finally came around.

Posted by: So-So the monkey at April 28, 2010 01:25 PM (uFokq)

210 Michael Steele is worthless as braille porn

Now wait just a minute!

Posted by: Blind Guy With Sweaty Fingertips at April 28, 2010 01:25 PM (HlBxa)

211 Posted by: Garbonzo the Garrulous at April 28, 2010 05:14 PM (zgd5N)

California certainly did declare war on Arizona.  I can't remember a state calling for a boycott of another state.  Can you?  It's not a shooting war, but for one state to openly attack another like that is WAR.  And that comes on top of all the other crap that the political class is pouring on top of Americans, who want nothing to do with it.

You're right, socialist and totalitarian systems can exist as failures for a very long time - just as the USSR did for many decades.  But, the US is different and I don't believe that all will stand for it.

Perhaps I'm wrong, but I don't think so.  This nation is terribly destabilized and its foundations have been crushed.  Americans are not Russians - who were used to totalitarian regimes (they never knew anything else) and we are not Europeans.  There is an American character and I don't believe it will sit idly by as this insanity sweeps over.  Some states will decide to go on their own.  It's inevitable.  Unless a real dictator takes over (which could come with a monetary catastrophe as the Dems are inviting and the GOP doing nothing to stop), but at that point ...

Posted by: progressoverpeace at April 28, 2010 01:25 PM (N49h9)

212 191 chicken growers in California can't keep their critters in their existing cages

There is way too much fucking government.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at April 28, 2010 05:14 PM (mR7mk)

The new cages have to be big enough for the chicken to turn around in and ruin the eggs, or run around free-range and ruin the eggs. What makes it worse is that the idiot voters put this idiot law on the books with an idiot proposition in 2008. "It's for the chickens!" Idiots.

Posted by: Soon to be Ex-ExZonie at April 28, 2010 01:26 PM (as47X)

213 Guess they just couldn't take being called anti-American by Harry Reid.

Posted by: sulla at April 28, 2010 01:26 PM (Y4/VY)

214 I thought Shelby was once one of the good guys. What happened to him?

Not true; he has always been a RINO. Lifetime ACU rating of 75.

Posted by: Vic at April 28, 2010 01:27 PM (QrA9E)

215 Funny you should say that because when I said those exact words a month ago you called me a concern troll. Glad you finally came around.

If you say so.

Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at April 28, 2010 01:27 PM (HlBxa)

216 161

Shit. The only reason I'm registered as a Republican down here in FL is that you can't vote in a primary as an independent, which I was back in 'Bama.

Oh, and Barbarian, you can go fuck yourself.


Do you pick or strum your banjo? LOL

Posted by: Barbarian at April 28, 2010 01:27 PM (EL+OC)

217 "OBAMA & BIG SIS Call Riot Police Out on Tea Party Patriots Posted by Jim Hoft on Wednesday, April 28, 2010, 3:24 PM

TEAM OBAMA CALLS OUT SWAT TEAM ON TEA PARTY PATRIOTS!

The SWAT Team was called in today at the Quincy Tea Party Rally."

Posted by: curious at April 28, 2010 01:28 PM (p302b)

218 @201 Heh heh.

Posted by: George Orwell at April 28, 2010 01:28 PM (AZGON)

219 195  CHART OF THE DAY: 49 Out Of 50 State Economies Are Still Underwater

Spanish bonds downgraded.

DJIA closes up 53 pts.

I really don't get it.

Posted by: toby928 at April 28, 2010 05:15 PM (PD1tk)

Stimulus/TARP money goes a long way to offsetting the nastiness of the free market.

Posted by: Soon to be Ex-ExZonie at April 28, 2010 01:28 PM (as47X)

220 Beck is explaining the Puerto Rico thing....

Essentially people were concerned that he would change the make up of the court....how about changing the make up of the House and Senate?

Posted by: curious at April 28, 2010 01:30 PM (p302b)

221 Vote them all out! Ignore party affiliation.

Posted by: ken at April 28, 2010 01:30 PM (BV/WN)

222

But women MAKE THINGS HAPPEN.

She sounds conniving. Must be a libhag.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at April 28, 2010 01:31 PM (IIQIM)

223 Ah, well, it all went to hell when Nixon closed the gold window.  Since that happened, this was inevitable. Endless bailouts.  Executive power to nationalize financial institutions.  Game over, man.  Game.  Over.

Posted by: Phinn at April 28, 2010 04:24 PM (emFX5)

Listen, after the Great Society and the Vietnam War, our creditors worried about our ability to pay back our debt. There was a run on the dollar. It was because of foreign arbitrage of the US dollar that caused governmental gold coverage of the paper dollar to decline 33 percentage points, from 55% to 22%. Nixon didn't invent CDS and hedge funds, even if abandoning Bretton Woods led to that.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at April 28, 2010 01:31 PM (mHQ7T)

224 Gateway Pundit has pics of the tea party patriots....they called the swat team for moms and grand moms and grand dads?   Are they serious?

Posted by: curious at April 28, 2010 01:32 PM (p302b)

225 Listen up, Wingnuts! Cloture was voted down, 56-42. The R's held the line, except Bennett from Utah, who didn't vote. Nelson from Nebraska voted no, as did Harry Reid. Reid's vote was to give him room to bring it up again, no doubt.

Posted by: fluffy, Wingnut at April 28, 2010 01:32 PM (4Kl5M)

226 Well, at least McConnell, Shelby et al can now get back to making nice with Dingy and Dodd at the Congressional cocktail parties.  That is what it's all about anyway. With these ball-less clowns running things November will be a big bust for the GOP.  Now on to immigration, which Dingy will easily push through using the same tactics.   It's not as if the clueless no-balled, feckless, cowardly Senate GOP contingent will do anything to stop him.  God help us.

Posted by: RickS at April 28, 2010 01:32 PM (hKB1N)

227 From that TPM lsite linked to earlier:

From the Senate Banking Committee: "roll call vote tonight between 5:30-6:30 to allow debate on S. 3217, Wall Street Reform."

They are updating fast and furious.

Posted by: Vic at April 28, 2010 01:33 PM (QrA9E)

228

Cloture was voted down, 56-42.

Whatchu talkin' 'bout, Willis?

Posted by: So-So the monkey at April 28, 2010 01:33 PM (uFokq)

229 One of the basic GOP establishment problems is that they simply, as a corporate entity, simply do not appear to have an ability to make "bully pulpit" type arguments for cases like this--in other words, cases they could win if they made the right public appeal/education efforts, but could and would lose if they do not.

So it's not so much that the so-called GOP leaders are sometimes wrong in their political calculations--they probably aren't. It's more that they can't win the larger war, know they can't win it, but don't appear to be ready to yield to any segment that would be better at doing this, perhaps because in their arrogance they think if they can't win it, it can't be won. Not so.

Which brings us to an old phrase with three options--lead, follow, get out of the way. Caving might be the right solution for the current crowd, since the only way to success would involve having a detailed discussion with the American people about a lot of things, in ways that would define the issues for all time. If this crowd can't do that, that's okay--but acting like they have the only recipe for success no longer is.

I say this, because, as others have noted, it seems establishment pick Crist is going to do something that if a conservative did it would bring on all sorts of obloquy. I'm curious what the reaction is going to be from the establishment not just now, but after he wins if he wins, and then after a year or so. 

Personally, as far as I'm concerned, Crist's upcoming declaration of an independent run needs to be viewed by all conservatives as a useful precedent--and each Crist supporter or enabler needs to realize that is exactly what they are giving--their approval for conservatives to start a third party is they decide that is the proper step. Well...thanks. Appreciate that.

So go ahead and seat him in a Republican committee slot if he wins, GOP. We know you wanted him to triumph anyway.

Posted by: Horatius at April 28, 2010 01:34 PM (RBUkZ)

230 Cloture was voted down, 56-42.

The R's held the line, except Bennett from Utah, who didn't vote.

Posted by: fluffy, Wingnut at April 28, 2010 05:32 PM (4Kl5M)

That was the last vote.  There's another one in an hour, when the GOP will drop their pants on the floor - the disgusting, cowardly, slimy bastards.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at April 28, 2010 01:35 PM (N49h9)

231 Could Barbarian (EL+OC)be "someguy" the right wing troll that Ace was talking about earlier this afternoon when we had that long discussion about the difference between trolls and assholes?

Posted by: Vic at April 28, 2010 01:35 PM (QrA9E)

232 So go ahead and seat him in a Republican committee slot if he wins, GOP. We know you wanted him to triumph anyway.

Assuming he even caucuses with the GOP...

Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at April 28, 2010 01:39 PM (HlBxa)

233 Cloture was voted down, 56-42. Whatchu talkin' 'bout, Willis? Talkin bout Shaft Can you dig it?

Posted by: fluffy, masshole in the 5th district at April 28, 2010 01:39 PM (4Kl5M)

234 Soon to be Ex-ExZonie--there's not a single chicken farmer in the legislature, is there?

California certainly did declare war on Arizona.

The way they're going about it is really dumb. 

Posted by: HeatherRadish at April 28, 2010 01:39 PM (mR7mk)

235

 

No, Vic. And I don't think a day goes by without you calling someone a troll.

Posted by: So-So the monkey at April 28, 2010 01:39 PM (uFokq)

236

She sounds conniving. Must be a libhag.

It's Canada. She's not terribly attractive, but she has a nice body. She has a great job. Most of the men here would be thrilled to date her. My BIL is a catch, but he's passive and a bit of a (truther) loon. They will get on great.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at April 28, 2010 01:39 PM (mHQ7T)

237 Vic, troll? I don't think so. Asshole? Absolutely

Posted by: laceyunderalls loves me some Southerners at April 28, 2010 01:41 PM (IIQIM)

238 Snowe was a NAY, and Brown was a YEA!

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at April 28, 2010 01:42 PM (mHQ7T)

239 No, Vic. And I don't think a day goes by without you calling someone a troll.

BS, I rarely call anyone a troll unless it is fairly obvious. But we did have a long discussion on the possibility of there being a "right wing troll" on the OB thread.

Someone who comes one here for no other reason than to insult people.

Posted by: Vic at April 28, 2010 01:44 PM (QrA9E)

240 Could Barbarian (EL+OC) be "someguy" the right wing troll that Ace was talking about earlier this afternoon when we had that long discussion about the difference between trolls and assholes?

Could be. He's a little sedate to be someguy but same vibe.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at April 28, 2010 01:44 PM (mHQ7T)

241 Snowe was a NAY, and Brown was a YEA! Brown of Ohio?

Posted by: fluffy at April 28, 2010 01:44 PM (4Kl5M)

242
Idiots.

This thing is another power grab into our pocket books to bailout huge corporate Democrat donors.



Posted by: Lemon Kitten at April 28, 2010 01:44 PM (0fzsA)

243 Drudge has a big headline....

Hispanics planning big May Day protests in 70 US cities....

Well that's nice  they're making it easy for immigration?

Posted by: curious at April 28, 2010 01:44 PM (p302b)

244 This from MSNBC:
Woods returns to golf course —with new goatee.

Posted by: kansas at April 28, 2010 01:45 PM (mka2b)

245
Democrats lied about the cost of their health care disaster.

The democrats cannot be trusted, and so this is what we get.  Idiot Republicans trusting the corruptocrats.
(with our money)

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at April 28, 2010 01:45 PM (0fzsA)

246

"Goldman is NOT being thrown under the bus.  This is a rope-a-dope scam and Goldman is in on it.  A politically divided SEC has brought a very weak case that will never see a court room.  It will be settled with a wrist-slap.  In return for being made the whipping boy — which Goldman is very used to and even thrives on — it will get a "regulation" bill that enshrines too-big-to-fail status upon it and which will give it the same competitive advantages that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac enjoyed.  That is, an implicit taxpayer guarantee.  It will then be able to borrow at lower rates and engage in riskier behavior at a lower cost.  Meanwhile, smaller competitors will not enjoy this advantage, thereby making Goldman even more powerful and profitable.

Don't buy the spin on this. Obama is not throwing Goldman under the bus.  Goldman willingly jumped and will receive a huge payoff for its "sacrifice."  But the rest of us will pay.  This is all a political scam from start to finish."


E-mail to Jonah G.  BAM.



Posted by: Lemon Kitten at April 28, 2010 01:46 PM (0fzsA)

247 new theme song for the moronettes?

http://tinyurl.com/2dajesa

Posted by: fartbubble at April 28, 2010 01:47 PM (gAmQ1)

248

Hispanics planning big May Day protests in 70 US cities....

Communist May Day, wearing Che shirts. Not surprising.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at April 28, 2010 01:47 PM (ujg0T)

249 Lemon Kitten ...wondering what would compel the republicans to go along, particularly in light to the situation as it stands with the HC bill...

either this guy is real persuasive or they have something huge on every one of them...?  or what else could make you simply ignore your constituents and follow lock step?

Posted by: curious at April 28, 2010 01:47 PM (p302b)

250 This from MSNBC:
Woods returns to golf course —with new goatee.

Posted by: kansas at April 28, 2010 05:45 PM (mka2b)


the evil Woods comes out to play

Posted by: fartbubble at April 28, 2010 01:48 PM (gAmQ1)

251 The Democrats no longer need to play to their leftard base, the RINOs will do the job for them. Boy, am I impressed with those squish bastards.

Posted by: maddogg at April 28, 2010 01:48 PM (OlN4e)

252 Running scared? Not necessarily....as you say, the Pubs have not given a solid reason to vote for them.  But anti-incumbent sentiment is still high and shows no signs of dropping, and most of them are Dems. I still think the Pubs take the House. The problem is that we have no idea who the hell our new reps will be.

Posted by: Luca Brasi at April 28, 2010 01:49 PM (YmPwQ)

253 In my mind this just goes back to the weakness in the Republican leadership in the senate and their inability to keep their people in line. We discussed this in previous threads and the leadership while in the minority does have the ability to keep their people in line. At the least they can say, if you continue to vote in this direction its likely a more conservative candidate will run against you the next time your seat is up and you might not have our full backing in that case. If you look at the example of what is happening in Utah with Bob Bennett, its not completely an idle threat.

Posted by: Drew in MO at April 28, 2010 01:49 PM (GB1nV)

254 Don't trust any of these fuckers. Vote them all out.

Posted by: 1idvet at April 28, 2010 01:50 PM (iMyIW)

255
Democrats keep whining and lying about "to big to fail" - but this financial reform bill is protecting their "to big to fail" democrat Wall Street donors - with our money

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at April 28, 2010 01:50 PM (0fzsA)

256

Holy Airbrushing Batman!!

(go to drudge and check out san fransicko nan's latest pic. good. god.)

Posted by: laceyunderalls loves me some Southerners at April 28, 2010 01:50 PM (IIQIM)

257

 

You know why the limousine liberals on Wall Street are going along with these awful regulations? Same reason as all the limo liberals support Leftist/Progressive policy: because they already got their's.

They're allready successes; they're already at the top. So they don't care if they push the ladder away so the rest of us can't climb to the top.

Posted by: So-So the monkey at April 28, 2010 01:50 PM (uFokq)

258 Brown of Ohio?

Thanks. I'm on sinus meds, and the lines were blurring. I like Scott Brown, and I'm glad he held the line.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at April 28, 2010 01:50 PM (mHQ7T)

259 This is just depressing.  Even if, by some miracle not of their own making, the Republicans manage to gain seats in Congress, they will still govern by what the New York Times would want them to do.

We have no Republicans, or Democrats.  Every politician is a member of the Media Party, and who they appear on television is their only concern.  Voters, yeah, well, some of them don't read the Times and have to be pandered to, but that's only every couple of years and then we can get right back to ignoring them.

I'll vote for the stupid idiots, but not because they've earned it.  The Dems have earned my resistance to them.  The Reps have earned nothing but my contempt.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at April 28, 2010 01:50 PM (eNxMU)

260 California certainly did declare war on Arizona.  I can't remember a state calling for a boycott of another state.  Can you?  

MLK Day vs. Arizona coincidentally enough. Remember the boycotts? Super Bowl moved. No war.

It's not a shooting war, but for one state to openly attack another like that is WAR.  

I understand rhetoric but it's not war.  War is carried out by boycotts. War is 'breaking things and killing people.' Nothing will be broke by SF and LA's temper tantrums nor anyone killed.

States like AZ and NV regularly advertise and solicit businesses in states like CA to move to their state. Is that 'war?'

There is an American character and I don't believe it will sit idly by as this insanity sweeps over.  Posted by: progressoverpeace

I'd like to think I'm a not a pessimist and I'm not just being argumentative, but national character can change. The Brits of today are not the John Bull's of yesterday. The salarymen and young wastrels of Japan aren't exactly the heirs to the Chrysanthemum throne. I'm not exactly sure that the average American is comparable to a member of only two generations past.

I think giving up on the GOP rates as a defeatist measure that's certain to reap only defeat.

Sign up as a volunteer, get a chair, take it over. Win. That's the end-game for the Tea Party and like minded conservatives, IMHO.

Posted by: Garbonzo the Garrulous at April 28, 2010 01:51 PM (zgd5N)

261

This is goddamn idiotic. They were gonna hold up the entire senate business on this thing.

You could have judge filibustered financial reform and postponed everything (including SC nominations) till closer to the elections.

Posted by: Entropy at April 28, 2010 01:51 PM (eL+YD)

262
by curious - Lemon Kitten ...wondering what would compel the republicans to go along, particularly in light to the situation as it stands with the HC bill...

either this guy is real persuasive or they have something huge on every one of them...?  or what else could make you simply ignore your constituents and follow lock step?

Republcians are short-sided DC insiders who are afraid of the Democrat meme.

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at April 28, 2010 01:52 PM (0fzsA)

263 Democrats keep whining and lying about "to big to fail"

They're like the panhandlers that stand outside of nightclubs. Some of these guys, according to Liz Smith in a recent column, make $1300 in a night. They have vacation homes in FL and collect SS, disability, food stamps, section 8.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at April 28, 2010 01:54 PM (mHQ7T)

264

 

Repugnicans.

Posted by: So-So the monkey at April 28, 2010 01:54 PM (uFokq)

265 253

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at April 28, 2010 05:46 PM (0fzsA)

 

 

I agree with you, Lemon.  This is just another scam.  GODDAMN, I'M GETTING TIRED OF THESE ASSHOLES. 

Posted by: Soona' at April 28, 2010 01:56 PM (XQuY6)

266

 

wow Entropy shows up and I spell just like him!

allready? I never mispell already.

Posted by: So-So the monkey at April 28, 2010 01:56 PM (uFokq)

267 "The public cannot be too curious concerning the character of public men" - Samuel Adams....via Beck....he ended his show asking you to tweet this..

Posted by: curious at April 28, 2010 02:00 PM (p302b)

268
Goldman Sachs gives a million dollars to Barack Obama alone (this doesn't include the millions of dollars Goldman Sachs has given to other Democrats.)

Goldman Sachs has to faux-grovel and promise to be good boys on the senate floor.

Tax-payers get the bill.

Thanks corruptocrats and worthless spineless republicans!

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at April 28, 2010 02:01 PM (0fzsA)

269 Posted by: polynikes at April 28, 2010 05:59 PM (m2CN7)

Yes there are differences, however, there appear to be no differences among the people who represent us in DC be they republican or democrat...

That is the most concerning.....they no longer reflect the need to accommodate their constituents....

Posted by: curious at April 28, 2010 02:02 PM (p302b)

270 The stock market is the only part of the economy that's NOT in the toilet, so of course they had to destroy it. This bill was supposed to protect the little guy and rein in the big evil companies, but it actual weakens consumer protection and takes away all risks for the big guys because it sets up automatic mechanisms for bail outs to happen, leaving congress out of the loop. So, like GM, Wall Street will piss away its money and when they run out they'll piss away our money. When that runs out there'll be a total collapse of the world economy and fascism and communism will reestablish itself in Europe and beyond. Nice going, RINOs. Aren't you proud of yourself for reaching across the aisle?

Posted by: Matt at April 28, 2010 02:02 PM (J3jFV)

271

Words with 'all' in them are practically the only words I allways mispell.

Posted by: Entropy at April 28, 2010 02:03 PM (eL+YD)

272 Posted by: Lemon Kitten at April 28, 2010 06:01 PM (0fzsA)

yes, yes "you don't bite the hand that feeds you"...so....what is the endgame?

Posted by: curious at April 28, 2010 02:03 PM (p302b)

273 The R's held the line, except Bennett from Utah, who didn't vote.

Someone owes me a left nut.


Posted by: HeatherRadish at April 28, 2010 02:04 PM (mR7mk)

274

I wish I had the commitment curious has to link, I don't have it in me.

Anyhoo, did anyone see Obama to Wall Street today?

"I think at a certain point you've made enough money".

Lovely.

(real clear has the vid)

Posted by: laceyunderalls loves me some Southerners at April 28, 2010 02:04 PM (IIQIM)

275

 

About the only selling point the Republican's have left is that they're the lesser of two evils. And that sucks.

 

Posted by: So-So the monkey at April 28, 2010 02:05 PM (uFokq)

276 Matt, is the ability to willy nilly just take over a company still in there?  And to look at anyone's bank statement, brokerage accounts and private financial papers, still in there?

Posted by: curious at April 28, 2010 02:05 PM (p302b)

277 At least we have good Republican reps. The Senate has always been practically useless.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at April 28, 2010 02:06 PM (yfJ6g)

278

 

I'm running out of left nuts. I really ought to stop betting them.

Posted by: So-So the monkey at April 28, 2010 02:06 PM (uFokq)

279

Someone owes me a left nut.

Gonna keep it in your purse, like M'Chel does zero's?

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at April 28, 2010 02:07 PM (cniXs)

280 "I think at a certain point you've made enough money".

He's not refusing to accept anymore royalties from Bill Ayers books, is he?

Posted by: HeatherRadish at April 28, 2010 02:08 PM (mR7mk)

281 Look folks ... there is only one way to fix this crap. Take over the Republican Party. Until conservatives take over the Republican Party, its n omination process will continue to attract Democrat politicians who are not communist enough for the current Dem leadership. Until we can take over and purge our party, this kind of crap will continue. Do not expect any help in this process by the scrunts already sitting on precinct committees ... they just want you to go away and stop endangering their little fiefdoms. ========================== Yeah, and you can start with getting rid of that moron Michael Steele. He is just as much a RINO as Graham, Schwartnegger, Crist, McCain, and all the rest of those jackals. I am a registered Republican In Name Only, just call me a RENO. I truly believe, if somebody doesn't stop this Marxist takeover of this country, there will be a civil war, and I do mean with real bullets and real death. I would rather be dead than live in a Marxist dictatorship, and that is where Obama is taking this. Everyone who is honest with themselves on this board knows this.

Posted by: Ernest P. Worrell at April 28, 2010 02:08 PM (Bgher)

282 Gonna keep it in your purse, like M'Chel does zero's?

I usually have them bronzed for my trophy case.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at April 28, 2010 02:08 PM (mR7mk)

283 Fox is reporting live right now that they are going to allow it to hit the floor.

No word in talking about how the whole thing is a PR stunt from the Dems.

Posted by: Vic at April 28, 2010 02:08 PM (QrA9E)

284 Posted by: laceyunderalls loves me some Southerners at April 28, 2010 06:04 PM (IIQIM)

I link cause time is money and it is just easier on everyone if they can quickly find what I'm talking about...
"Obama To Wall Street: "I Do Think At A Certain Point You've Made Enough Money"
"

Posted by: curious at April 28, 2010 02:08 PM (p302b)

285 I think giving up on the GOP rates as a defeatist measure that's certain to reap only defeat.

I don't blame anybody for giving up on the GOP at this point. I understand that it's the only viable conduit for the implementation of conservative governance, or even conservative opposition; the problem is that the party faithful (and I've voted party-line Republican my whole life) seem to understand this a whole lot better than the people they work so hard to elect.

"Parties mean something", we're told time and again. So why doesn't someone tell this to the politicians of the party? 'Cause the Democrats do not have this problem.

I'll continue to vote straight GOP, 'cause there is no alternative. But I'm sure not in any mood to send them money, work for their candidates, or even continue to keep their name on my voter registration card. What's the point in being a member of a party that doesn't even try?

Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at April 28, 2010 02:08 PM (HlBxa)

286 So far, the Hag Twins of Maine and Lemar Alexander have said they'll vote to proceed.

Posted by: enoxo at April 28, 2010 02:08 PM (NH3wr)

287 Wow, Levin starts off super upbeat today.  Thinks the marxist day rallies are gonna seal the deal for a conservative landslide in november.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at April 28, 2010 02:09 PM (cniXs)

288 Confound it, GOP, are you afraid of success?

Posted by: Mr. Potter at April 28, 2010 02:09 PM (sGaoh)

289 I want some Tea Party women.  Unabashed, unafraid, and unrelenting.

You rang? 

Posted by: Jane D'oh, Tea Party Diva at April 28, 2010 02:10 PM (UOM48)

290
I'm not giving up on the GOP.  The GOP has given up on us.


Still, the worst republican is better than the best socialist.
Politics is always about the lesser of two evils. 

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at April 28, 2010 02:11 PM (0fzsA)

291 288 Hint: His fugly ass wife is *finally* proud to live in a mean country that has  enabled her to have 10 handlers just get her ready in the morning.

Posted by: laceyunderalls loves me some Southerners at April 28, 2010 02:11 PM (IIQIM)

292 There are hundreds of other differences between Republicans and Democrats but you already know that.  Resume your rants.

It doesn't make any damn difference what Republicans support or oppose if their discipline as a party is this pathetic.

If there's no party discipline, there's no party at all.

Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at April 28, 2010 02:11 PM (HlBxa)

293

Matt, is the ability to willy nilly just take over a company still in there?  And to look at anyone's bank statement, brokerage accounts and private financial papers, still in there?

 

I have a feeling that DC has been doing this for years.  As for private cititzens?  Remember what happened to "Joe the Plumber".

Posted by: Soona' at April 28, 2010 02:12 PM (XQuY6)

294 I love all the concerned liberals fretting about "derivatives are risky and bad" like they have any clue what they're talking about. It's like being against "fluids" or "substances." Assholes.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 28, 2010 02:12 PM (hrxU/)

295 Curmudgeon 255 Hispanics planning big May Day protests in 70 US cities...

Lawrence Auster today asserted that the majority of Hispanics in this nation see themselves as members of a transnational Latino community first and as Americans not at all.

Here's how we test his thesis: headcount at these protests.

Posted by: Zimriel at April 28, 2010 02:13 PM (bNRq6)

296 Posted by: Lemon Kitten at April 28, 2010 06:11 PM (0fzsA)

I understand what you are saying but, if the republicans keep voting in these bills which Americans don't want then at some point you need to conclude that the republicans are just as bad as the dems maybe worse cause at least the dems are telling you right out how they think with the republicans you have hope and think they will change and then they do the exact same thing again....

Posted by: curious at April 28, 2010 02:13 PM (p302b)

297 Somewhat OT, at the Wall Street Journal:

States Bristle as Investors Make Wages on Defaults
As U.S. cities and towns wrestle with financial problems, investors are finding a new way to profit on their misery: by buying derivatives that essentially bet municipalities will default.

These so-called credit default swaps are basically insurance contracts that have long been available to protect holders of corporate bonds against default. They became available a few years ago for municipal debt, allowing investors to short sell—or bet against—countless cities, towns and bridges, and more than a dozen states, including California, Michigan and New York.

This can't be good.




Posted by: shibumi at April 28, 2010 02:15 PM (OKZrE)

298 274

There are hundreds of other differences between Republicans and Democrats but you already know that.  Resume your rants.

I agree in substance, poly.  Why don't the Republicans in the congress stand up for the things you list?  Why does it seem like they are simply recalcitrant Democrats, the sullen brats of the party who have to be fixed with a stern look so as to step back into the Dem line?

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at April 28, 2010 02:15 PM (eNxMU)

299

 

Remember way back in February '09 when the media was informing the people that the evil Rush Limbaugh was the leader of the Republican arty and they tried to get all the Republicans to denounce Rush?

oh how I wish it were true that Rush Limbaugh was the leader.

Posted by: So-So the monkey at April 28, 2010 02:16 PM (uFokq)

300

Anyhoo, did anyone see Obama to Wall Street today?

"I think at a certain point you've made enough money".

Funny, I don't hear that coming out of his mouth about his drunk-with-wealth Hollywood slob friends.

Posted by: Twinks at April 28, 2010 02:16 PM (VYKgG)

301 271 Repugnicans.

Posted by: So-So the monkey at April 28, 2010 05:54 PM (uFokq)


I have no idea what you said a month ago that might have led me to call you a troll (whoever you are) but it's becoming a little clearer.

Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at April 28, 2010 02:16 PM (HlBxa)

302 Posted by: shibumi at April 28, 2010 06:15 PM (OKZrE)

so they are shorting municipalities instead of companies....

The shorts do their homework...they really do know when something is rotting from within....it was the shorts who uncovered the crap at enron.....

Posted by: curious at April 28, 2010 02:17 PM (p302b)

303 Apropos of nothing, I was happy to see Brian Tierney's attempt to find some angel group to buy PNI (the newspapers in Philly) went down in flames today. heh heh heh The top debt-holders own their asses now. I have a feeling the Daily News (piece of krep rag) will be no mo.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at April 28, 2010 02:17 PM (SB0V2)

304

"I think at a certain point you've made enough money".

Funny, I don't hear that coming out of his mouth about his drunk-with-wealth Hollywood slob friends.


Wait until he hits the paid-speech circuit.  Bill Clinton gets $200k for a speech, I don't see him agreeing to show up to read for less than $300k.  More if there's hyperinflation.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at April 28, 2010 02:18 PM (mR7mk)

305

About the only selling point the Republican's have left is that they're the lesser of two evils. And that sucks.

 

Posted by: So-So the monkey at April 28, 2010 06:05 PM (uFokq)

 

The Republicans need your support during these hard times, not your bitching, whining and groaning. If you think you can do a better job, hey, run for office. Fair weather friends are as bad as liberals.

Posted by: Natasha & Boris at April 28, 2010 02:19 PM (ITzbJ)

306

Anyhoo, did anyone see Obama to Wall Street today?

"I think at a certain point you've made enough money".

Posted by: Twinks at April 28, 2010 06:16 PM (VYKgG)

We are through the looking glass.  The staticists think that everyone makes money only at the expense of someone else losing it.  They don't understand that people MAKE money.

And it would be nice if the Indonesian Imbecile were informed by someone that the Constitution says,

At a very definite point, the federal government has grabbed too much power, the limits of which are set forth in this document.

But, the GOP seems ready to acquiesce to Dem demands for as much power as they think of grabbing ...

Posted by: progressoverpeace at April 28, 2010 02:21 PM (N49h9)

307 Levin and Savage are off the charts about this may day rally thing that the hispanics are doing in 70 cities.

I sincerely worry about Levin raising his blood pressure when he gets this upset....

Posted by: curious at April 28, 2010 02:22 PM (p302b)

308 so they are shorting municipalities instead of companies....

The shorts do their homework...they really do know when something is rotting from within....it was the shorts who uncovered the crap at enron.....

Posted by: curious at April 28, 2010 06:17 PM

So is this good or bad?

Seems to me that someone is going to make a lot of money off of my misery when Michigan goes kaboom....

Posted by: shibumi at April 28, 2010 02:22 PM (OKZrE)

309 Posted by: Natasha & Boris at April 28, 2010 06:19 PM (ITzbJ)

Dianne & Brian?

Douche & Bag?

Dick & Balls?

Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at April 28, 2010 02:22 PM (HlBxa)

310 On my loooonnng round trip to bring D'oh Boy home, I was shocked to not see a single Obama bumper sticker.  In five states.  I did see one Prius with "Coexist" and "Mean People Suck" stickers.  The lack of Barry O stickers made me happy.

Posted by: Jane D'oh, Tea Party Diva at April 28, 2010 02:22 PM (UOM48)

311

 

I have no idea what you said a month ago that might have led me to call you a troll (whoever you are) but it's becoming a little clearer.

Of course it is, you shithead. And I think you're full of shit on not remembering. You're repeating me verbatim.  Okay, now here's the part where you call me a troll, again.

Should I dig up the comment you made about the Republicans winning 70+ seats, in November? And here you are today repeating what I said and you have the nerve to suggest I'm a troll. Unbelievable.

Posted by: So-So the monkey at April 28, 2010 02:22 PM (uFokq)

312 Of course it is, you shithead. And I think you're full of shit on not remembering. You're repeating me verbatim.  Okay, now here's the part where you call me a troll, again.

I still don't know who the fuck your punk ass is but I must admit you're entertaining.

Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at April 28, 2010 02:24 PM (HlBxa)

313 shuibumi - does your mayor or city council have to file financial disclosure statements? If not, they could profit personally from runnin your town into debt - while keeping the unions happy, win -win.

Posted by: Jean at April 28, 2010 02:25 PM (CPefM)

314 Posted by: HeatherRadish at April 28, 2010 06:18 PM (mR7mk)

My friend the mortgage broker, well x mortgage broker, reminded us today that he got a no doc loan (he had no income) on his New York Estate.  Then he reminded us that he constructed a house for the SS to stay in and charged the government for the house.   Well I guess when you try to bring your memories like the silverware and dishes with you, you think you can do anything.

Posted by: curious at April 28, 2010 02:26 PM (p302b)

315 But since you bring it up, Monkey Boy, I DO think the Republicans are going to win 60-70 seats in November. It just won't have anything to do with them.

Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at April 28, 2010 02:26 PM (HlBxa)

316

So is this good or bad?

Seems to me that someone is going to make a lot of money off of my misery when Michigan goes kaboom....

Posted by: shibumi at April 28, 2010 06:22 PM (OKZrE)

There's nothing unethical about shorting or making bets that someone will default.  The responsibility for the misery of Michigan lies with no one but Michigan. 

No healthy market can exist without people having long and short positions.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at April 28, 2010 02:26 PM (N49h9)

317 My My what a surprise. 

I think I'll send Mitch McConnell a box of Tampax.

Posted by: Elf at April 28, 2010 02:26 PM (qoM+z)

318 Saving Ace some time, I crafted these headlines for the next few weeks:Breaking: Republicans Cave on Cap & Trade FilibusterBreaking: Republicans Cave on Immigration Reform Filibuster

Posted by: Ludicrous Speed at April 28, 2010 02:27 PM (zqzYV)

319 Holy fuck.  Imadinnerjacket has applied for a visa to come to the U.S. next week for a nuke conference (this from Bret Baier). 

Oh joy.  Barry is speaking to the muzzies again. 

And I mentioned in an earlier thread today, the Savannah Morning News actually printed a Mohammed cartoon in yesterday's paper.  Brought a tear, it made me so proud. 

Posted by: Jane D'oh, Tea Party Diva at April 28, 2010 02:27 PM (UOM48)

320 Posted by: curious at April 28, 2010 06:26 PM

Apparently you CAN do anything when no one calls you on it.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at April 28, 2010 02:29 PM (mR7mk)

321 326 Saving Ace some time, I crafted these headlines for the next few weeks:

Breaking: Republicans Cave on Cap & Trade Filibuster

Breaking: Republicans Cave on Immigration Reform Filibuster

Posted by: Ludicrous Speed at April 28, 2010 06:27 PM (zqzYV)

Sorry, bad formatting.

Posted by: Ludicrous Speed at April 28, 2010 02:29 PM (zqzYV)

322

I sincerely worry about Levin raising his blood pressure when he gets this upset....

he says his doctor says its good for him to vent it out.  i worry too, we need him in good shape. i really think the challenge he had ready for demon pass was a huge part of the reason the dems didn't try to use it.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at April 28, 2010 02:29 PM (cniXs)

323 BTW, that 3L has certainly opened up a can of worms for herself but the post has been a boom for ATL  I don't think they've ever gone to 21 pages on any thread including the ones about the supremes.

Posted by: curious at April 28, 2010 02:29 PM (p302b)

324 321 shuibumi - does your mayor or city council have to file financial disclosure statements? If not, they could profit personally from runnin your town into debt - while keeping the unions happy, win -win.

I'll have to check.

Generally speaking, they are fairly fiscally responsible where I live- however, one never knows what goes on below the surface.

Posted by: shibumi at April 28, 2010 02:30 PM (OKZrE)

325 Holy fuck.  Imadinnerjacket has applied for a visa to come to the U.S. next week for a nuke conference (this from Bret Baier). 

Posted by: Jane D'oh, Tea Party Diva at April 28, 2010 06:27 PM (UOM4

The US refused visas for the Honduran delegation to the UN - instead giving visas to Zelaya's junta representatives, which included a Honduran bomber from the 80's (the Honduran Bill Ayers, basically) but they provide one for Imadidjskjdsjad.  Yep ...

When will it be enough?

Posted by: progressoverpeace at April 28, 2010 02:30 PM (N49h9)

326 "328 Posted by: curious at April 28, 2010 06:26 PM

Apparently you CAN do anything when no one calls you on it.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at April 28, 2010 06:29 PM (mR7mk)"

I've been slowly realizing that....and that is the very saddest part of what we are witnessing....

If you can intimidate everyone into keeping quiet and not challenging you or going after you or indicting you....then you win and the country loses....very sad actually, very sad....

Posted by: curious at April 28, 2010 02:32 PM (p302b)

327 Well, I for one am grateful our Dear Leader is reaching out to our future Muslim overlords.

Posted by: Jane D'oh, Tea Party Diva at April 28, 2010 02:32 PM (UOM48)

328 333 Holy fuck.  Imadinnerjacket has applied for a visa to come to the U.S. next week for a nuke conference (this from Bret Baier). 

Posted by: Jane D'oh, Tea Party Diva at April 28, 2010 06:27 PM (UOM4

The US refused visas for the Honduran delegation to the UN - instead giving visas to Zelaya's junta representatives, which included a Honduran bomber from the 80's (the Honduran Bill Ayers, basically) but they provide one for Imadidjskjdsjad.  Yep ...

When will it be enough?

Posted by: progressoverpeace at April 28, 2010 06:30 PM (N49h9)

When I get so pissed, I roam the streets of DC gunning down Congress.

Posted by: Zombie Charlton Heston at April 28, 2010 02:32 PM (zqzYV)

329

Should I dig up the comment you made about the Republicans winning 70+ seats, in November?

 

Didn't Nancy Blinkosi say that the dems would win at least 50,000 seats in congress this Nov?

Posted by: Soona' at April 28, 2010 02:32 PM (XQuY6)

330 Shibumi, if these investors actually own MI bonds and have purchased credit default swaps, they aren't making money, they're paying another party an annualized premium to insure those bonds at par value in case MI defaults.

However, if they're naked credit default swapsan then they don't actually own any underlying debt instrument and YES, are betting on margin that MI will default.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 28, 2010 02:33 PM (hrxU/)

331 I would love to see Ace and Drew and last night's crew have a nice conversation with Hugo on Twitter....

Bet that one would be funnier than the Olberman one which was downright hysterical..

Posted by: curious at April 28, 2010 02:34 PM (p302b)

332 Hey Ace, Bret Baier is talking about Chavez being on Twitter now.

I think I can probably speak for all the morons/ettes and say you're tweeting Hugo baby would be AWESOME.

Posted by: Jane D'oh, Tea Party Diva at April 28, 2010 02:35 PM (UOM48)

333 did you see the pic of nan on Drudge?   Retouching is amazing isn't it?  Although we haven't seen much of her so, could be a face lift, again....

Posted by: curious at April 28, 2010 02:35 PM (p302b)

334 curious beat me.  Oh, and you're = your.  My fingers are faster than my brain this evening.

Posted by: Jane D'oh, Tea Party Diva at April 28, 2010 02:36 PM (UOM48)

335 You're right! We were bluffing!

Posted by: GOP poker players at April 28, 2010 02:36 PM (ocax6)

336 Now this is something that I really wish was unprecedented! 

Posted by: s☺mej☼e at April 28, 2010 02:37 PM (4y0YU)

337 Posted by: Jane D'oh, Tea Party Diva at April 28, 2010 06:36 PM (UOM4

that was too funny....you're watching fox too?   Amazing how we both thought of it a minute apart..

Posted by: curious at April 28, 2010 02:38 PM (p302b)

338 God, I love Guinness. Drinking starts early tonight.

Posted by: grognard at April 28, 2010 02:38 PM (YmthB)

339 So, is this the GOP's way of rubbing a shit taco in the Tea Party's face?

PS: I still think southerners are shine drinking jackleg hicks.

Posted by: Barbarian at April 28, 2010 02:39 PM (EL+OC)

340 The anti tea party rhetoric is ratcheting up.....the young turks are on you tube and they are making a lot of videos about the tea party....

Posted by: curious at April 28, 2010 02:40 PM (p302b)

341 303 Lawrence Auster today asserted that the majority of Hispanics in this nation see themselves as members of a transnational Latino community first and as Americans not at all.

"Multicultural" education has been around for 20 years spreading its poison. Not surprisingly, this started up after to Soviet Empire fell apart.

Just as leopards do not change their spots, the Commie symps didn't disappear; they just morphed.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at April 28, 2010 02:40 PM (ujg0T)

342 Barbarian, southern woman speaking here.

Bugger off.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 28, 2010 02:41 PM (UOM48)

343 350 Barbarian, southern woman speaking here.

Bugger off.

NO chance sweety.

Posted by: Barbarian at April 28, 2010 02:42 PM (EL+OC)

344 curious, did you see Oompa Loompa Crist?  Jeebus, he's oranger than ever.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 28, 2010 02:42 PM (UOM48)

345 Posted by: Curmudgeon at April 28, 2010 06:40 PM (ujg0T)

I always wondered why they weren't forced by having to live here and function to assimilate like all the other people who came here....

now we know...it is getting harder and harder to keep shaking off the conspiracy theory nuts on this stuff.....

Posted by: curious at April 28, 2010 02:42 PM (p302b)

346

So 42 of them voted "No" 3 times and then at least two limp-wristed weak-kneed pansy-ass squishy self-centered ass kissers with no self-respect for themselves decided to become quitters or quislings.

 

Courage.  ..............   Not.

Posted by: NC Ref at April 28, 2010 02:43 PM (2h8XC)

347 Just carve this part in stone:

Breaking: Republicans Cave
we can use it over and over.

Jones

Posted by: Jones at April 28, 2010 02:43 PM (JL3qV)

348

Just as leopards do not change their spots, the Commie symps didn't disappear; they just morphed.

 

 

They didn't morph.  They just moved to Chicago.

Posted by: Soona' at April 28, 2010 02:44 PM (XQuY6)

349 Republicans, would you please stop DOING SEX TO ME???

Posted by: BB at April 28, 2010 02:44 PM (qF8q3)

350

Berkshire Hathaway Inc. is NelsonÂ’s biggest campaign contributor. He and his wife Diane owned up to $6 million in the companyÂ’s stock at the end of 2008, according to the latest Congressional disclosure records.

From the WSJ:

Senate Democrats agreed Monday to kill a provision from their derivatives bill pushed by Warren Buffett's Berkshire Hathaway Inc., a change one analyst predicted could force the Nebraska company to set aside up to $8 billion.

The Senate Agriculture Committee inserted language into its derivatives bill last week at the request of Sen. Ben Nelson (D., Neb.) that would have exempted any existing derivatives contracts from new collateral requirements—the money set aside to cover potential losses.

Berkshire has $63 billion in derivatives contracts, and Mr. Buffett has boasted he holds very little collateral against these products.

Bennett faced a tough primary, anyway. It looks like he cut a deal, and the Republicans have a vulnerable seat.


Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at April 28, 2010 02:44 PM (mHQ7T)

351 Posted by: NC Ref at April 28, 2010 06:43 PM (2h8XC)

Hmmm  Zero hedge's commenters are saying were "bought off"

Posted by: curious at April 28, 2010 02:44 PM (p302b)

352

I always wondered why they weren't forced by having to live here and function to assimilate like all the other people who came here....

now we know...it is getting harder and harder to keep shaking off the conspiracy theory nuts on this stuff.....

I'm with you. I wanted to think the Obamunists were deliberately out to destroy America and were just wrongheaded, but at some point Ockham's razor kicks in and the most direct explanation works.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at April 28, 2010 02:44 PM (ujg0T)

353 This "caving" crap is going to continue as long as liberal bias is tolerated in the MFM. And there is only one way to curb that bias, that's by making the media the story. G*d knows that with the 'lives' these media crapweasels lead there has got to be enough nasty divorces, delinquent child support, drunken/ drug induced rants (think Alec Baldwin and/or David Hasselhof here), incest, pedophilia, mistresses, DUIs, firearms violations, tax evasion, and airport restroom liaisons to fill the MFM sewer pipe for months on end. All that's needed is some solid opposition research and a latter day Walter Winchell (http://tinyurl.com/2cp9c7) to package it and leak the stuff on the CBS personalities to NBC, the NBC personalities to ABC, the ABC personalities to CNN, and the MSNBC personalities to anybody who'll listen. Pretty soon, rather than a nightly tribute to Obama or a daily conservative-as-pinita fest the entire output of the MFM will be one giant shitstorm of "inside baseball" gossip that will neutralize it's utility as a bullhorn for the left. Until we wake up and begin to manipulate the media we will continue to have the media manipulate us, with the same predictably negative results that we see here.

Posted by: Nighthawk at April 28, 2010 02:45 PM (+u+jT)

354 Last two sentences were not part of the WSJ article. My italics left me.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at April 28, 2010 02:45 PM (mHQ7T)

355 For those of you who are wondering what the Republicans in the committee got that allowed them to cave and were not able to see Fox News here is what they got:

NOTHING

and amazingly that is the reason they voted to allow it to go forward!  They said there was no point in continuing the debate in committee because it was going nowhere.

Somehow I can not see the logic in this stance. 

Posted by: Vic at April 28, 2010 02:45 PM (QrA9E)

356 I meant not deliberately out to destroy. Ugh typos

Posted by: Curmudgeon at April 28, 2010 02:45 PM (ujg0T)

357 Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 28, 2010 06:42 PM (UOM4

I always think that you will find him in the picture dictionary under "over tanning" or "spray tan" .....maybe the tanning booths are affecting him in ways we can't envision....and now he has to pay a nice tax for that booth....

Posted by: curious at April 28, 2010 02:46 PM (p302b)

358

All that's needed is some solid opposition research and a latter day Walter Winchell (http://tinyurl.com/2cp9c7) to package it and leak the stuff on the CBS personalities to NBC, the NBC personalities to ABC, the ABC personalities to CNN, and the MSNBC personalities to anybody who'll listen.

And a Tee-totalling Tailgunner Joe.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at April 28, 2010 02:47 PM (ujg0T)

359 363 For those of you who are wondering what the Republicans in the committee got that allowed them to cave and were not able to see Fox News here is what they got:

NOTHING

Incredible.

Posted by: Barbarian at April 28, 2010 02:47 PM (EL+OC)

360 Is there something fishy going on tomorrow regarding Puerto Rico?  Like adding a 58th star to the U.S. flag?  (The One's U.S. flag.)

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 28, 2010 02:47 PM (UOM48)

361 O/T -- If you want to participate in the online show/live blog for Bret Baier's show, go to fox news dot com slash sronline.  It'll start around 7:05.

Posted by: RushBabe at April 28, 2010 02:48 PM (LKkE8)

362 :"368 Is there something fishy going on tomorrow regarding Puerto Rico?  Like adding a 58th star to the U.S. flag?  (The One's U.S. flag.)

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 28, 2010 06:47 PM (UOM4 "

you need to watch Beck or listen to this morning's show

It is frightening how something so simple can be so diabolical...

We also discussed it here, but can't remember which thread...

Posted by: curious at April 28, 2010 02:49 PM (p302b)

363 368 Is there something fishy going on tomorrow regarding Puerto Rico?  Like adding a 58th star to the U.S. flag?  (The One's U.S. flag.)

Si Senora. And it seems the conservative blogosphere is ignoring the problem altogether. Nice.

Posted by: Barbarian at April 28, 2010 02:51 PM (EL+OC)

364 So how many Rs actually jumped ship? The ones who did are traitors, & the ones that didn't, aren't-so-much.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at April 28, 2010 02:51 PM (yfJ6g)

365 And a Tee-totalling Tailgunner Joe. Posted by: Curmudgeon at April 28, 2010 06:47 PM (ujg0T) Actually I think we already have a pretty solid "Tailgunner Jane" in Sarah Palin.

Posted by: Nighthawk at April 28, 2010 02:51 PM (+u+jT)

366 PS: I still think southerners are shine drinking jackleg hicks.

Interesting. I still think you fuck your 12-year-old toothless cousin in the mouth up in Vermont, or whatever other frozen shithole you hail from (and I notice you're not too quick to brag about where that is). But I guess we're just going to have to agree to disagree with one another.

Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at April 28, 2010 02:52 PM (HlBxa)

367 "Janet Yellen, Sarah Bloom Raskin And Peter Diamond To Be Nominated To Fed Board By Obama"
How do they do so much?  They are allegedly short staffed.  One of my friends said they have a huge data base of contributors and they tap those people to work for free to "help them out".  I'm beginning to think he is right.

Posted by: curious at April 28, 2010 02:53 PM (p302b)

368 I still don't know who the fuck your punk ass is but I must admit you're entertaining.
Posted by: The War Between the Undead States

Tweets, aka Tweetwing Plover, Dynomutt, Fred Jones, This is ... , etc.


Posted by: Garbonzo the Garrulous at April 28, 2010 02:53 PM (zgd5N)

369
Is this an open thread, yet?  Cuz my head hurtz.

Posted by: Dang Straights at April 28, 2010 02:54 PM (tXxr7)

370 CK greek hairdresser...funneh

Posted by: dananjcon at April 28, 2010 02:54 PM (EeXC2)

371

Is there something fishy going on tomorrow regarding Puerto Rico?  Like adding a 58th star to the U.S. flag?  (The One's U.S. flag.)

 

 

Tomorrow evenings headline will read:  "Republicans Cave on Puerto Rico Bill".

Posted by: Soona' at April 28, 2010 02:55 PM (XQuY6)

372 Sigh.  The world is going to hell in a handbasket, but I loves me some Steven Hayes.  *fans self, southern style*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 28, 2010 02:56 PM (UOM48)

373 Tomorrow evenings headline will read: "Republicans Cave on Puerto Rico Bill". Posted by: Soona' at April 28, 2010 06:55 PM (XQuY6) I sure hope not- I used to hang out down on the corner and drink beer with Puerto Rico Bill. He was a stand-up guy. Wouldn't want anybody caving on him...

Posted by: Nighthawk at April 28, 2010 02:58 PM (+u+jT)

374 BREAKING: Republicans Cave on Filibuster of Skynet Funding Bill Removing all Human Decisions from Strategic Defense.

Posted by: Cyberdyne Systems, Inc. at April 28, 2010 02:58 PM (HlBxa)

375 Damnit.  The screen for Special Report's online show hasn't changed from last week, which means they're not doing it tonight.  Also, Baier reminds you close to the end of the show about logging in and he hasn't tonight. 

Posted by: RushBabe at April 28, 2010 02:58 PM (LKkE8)

376 380 Sigh.  The world is going to hell in a handbasket, but I loves me some Steven Hayes.  *fans self, southern style*

Paul Ryan said some great things today. A sample:
http://tinyurl.com/2uaw5po

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at April 28, 2010 02:59 PM (yfJ6g)

377 370 :"368 Is there something fishy going on tomorrow regarding Puerto Rico?  Like adding a 58th star to the U.S. flag?  (The One's U.S. flag.)

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 28, 2010 06:47 PM (UOM4"

you need to watch Beck or listen to this morning's show

It is frightening how something so simple can be so diabolical...

We also discussed it here, but can't remember which thread...

Posted by: curious at April 28, 2010 06:49 PM (p302b)

It's under today's "Top Headlines" thread.  One of the first entries about it is written in orange, so it should be easy to spot.  I can't believe Baier didn't mention this.

Posted by: RushBabe at April 28, 2010 03:02 PM (LKkE8)

378 382 -- hey that was classified and this isn't the NYT

Posted by: Jean at April 28, 2010 03:02 PM (CPefM)

379 OT-- ACE, please check out Gateway Pundit STAT! Zero called the SWAT team in on the little old ladies with the Tea Party in Quincy, Illinois. I am not joking; it's just unbelievable.

Posted by: Fresh Air at April 28, 2010 03:03 PM (/yUlp)

380 Paul Ryan would be a veeerry interesting candidate in 2012.  However, I've heard him say on Beck and elsewhere he's not interested. 

Coast Guard is lighting the oil slick.  Rick Sanchez amazed that oil can burn on wet stuff.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 28, 2010 03:03 PM (UOM48)

Posted by: Hobo at April 28, 2010 03:04 PM (mMdWG)

382

This thread is dying.

Posted by: Soona' at April 28, 2010 03:04 PM (XQuY6)

383 Reporting for duty sir!

Posted by: cardboard suitcase at April 28, 2010 03:06 PM (Rb259)

384 This thread is dying.

Ocean's dying... plankton's dying...

Posted by: Charlton Heston at April 28, 2010 03:06 PM (HlBxa)

385

Paul Ryan would be a veeerry interesting candidate in 2012.  However, I've heard him say on Beck and elsewhere he's not interested. 

 

Yet!

Posted by: Soona' at April 28, 2010 03:07 PM (XQuY6)

Posted by: Mjim at April 28, 2010 03:07 PM (mMdWG)

387 Hmmm  Zero hedge's commenters are saying were "bought off"

Posted by: curious at April 28, 2010 06:44 PM (p302b)

 

 

 

Yeah I can surely believe bribery.  They fkn suck.

Posted by: NC Ref at April 28, 2010 03:08 PM (2h8XC)

388

Ocean's dying... plankton's dying...

...unicorn shit is starting to stink.

Posted by: Soona' at April 28, 2010 03:09 PM (XQuY6)

389 Hmmm  Zero hedge's commenters are saying were "bought off"

I've been getting checks for six months now, every other Thursday.
Never bothered asking where they were coming from.
Now I know!

Posted by: Mjim at April 28, 2010 03:11 PM (mMdWG)

390 There's apparently something wrong with the blog because Ace and the under-bloggers can't put a new post up.

Posted by: Dr Sapnk at April 28, 2010 03:11 PM (I1/U/)

391 >all they needed was one squish to cave.

they're all squishes

Posted by: Jones at April 28, 2010 03:11 PM (JL3qV)

392 The Republican Sentaors:  "THEY'RE PUSSIES!"

Posted by: Russell Ziskey at April 28, 2010 03:12 PM (kmEfr)

393 Posted by: Fresh Air at April 28, 2010 07:03 PM (/yUlp)

I posted that up thread....it was horrifying to see those pictures of everyone's moms and dads and grand moms and grand dads and moms and dads..having the swat team called on them....

What is the point?  What were they thinking.

You know someone said they had shooters on the tops of the building at the last tea party rally in DC and I didn't believe them, maybe they weren't kidding?  

Posted by: curious at April 28, 2010 03:13 PM (p302b)

394 >There's apparently something wrong with the blog

I used to able to hyperlink my name like this (Posted by: Jones)

but now Wordpress is banned

Posted by: Jones at April 28, 2010 03:14 PM (JL3qV)

Posted by: Mjim at April 28, 2010 03:17 PM (mMdWG)

396 Is it time to consider a Velvet Revolution yet?  On top of the Puerto Rico news and the SWAT team, time's a wastin.'

Posted by: RushBabe at April 28, 2010 03:19 PM (LKkE8)

397 What is the point?  What were they thinking.

Because Fox made a big deal of the riot and riot police at the MS-13 riot in AZ yesterday so they have to get a "riot" at the Tea Party in MA so they can say both sides do it.

This is despicable but what can you expect?

Note that it may also be the first of the 21st century Richstadt Fires and Krystal Nights.

Posted by: Vic at April 28, 2010 03:19 PM (QrA9E)

398

@405: "Note that it may also be the first of the 21st century Richstadt Fires and Krystal Nights."

I don't know what a Richstadt is, but what the Hell do you have against Krystal? They make a decent little burger...

Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at April 28, 2010 03:23 PM (kmEfr)

399 I don't know what a Richstadt is, but what the Hell do you have against Krystal? They make a decent little burger...

LOL, I can't spell English shit very well and German shit is just hopeless and I was too lazy to look it up.

Posted by: Vic at April 28, 2010 03:25 PM (QrA9E)

400

Obama and the Democrats win again.  Stimulus, cap-and-trade, card check, healthcare reform, jobs bill, and now financial reform.  The GOP caves every fucking time.  You guys have nothing.  America wins again. 

Posted by: Sally Ann Cavanaugh at April 28, 2010 03:26 PM (FRErk)

401

STOP FOR A FUCKING SECOND AND THINK ABOUT THIS.

SWAT was used to stop old ladies from assaulting the President.
But cracking down on hundreds of thousands of illegals in Arizona is NAZI-LIKE????

 

What the fuck is wrong with us.  Obama needs to go.  

Posted by: gus at April 28, 2010 03:26 PM (Vqruj)

402 I have Krystal Nights only when the 24-hour Whataburger burns down.

Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at April 28, 2010 03:28 PM (HlBxa)

403 406 I don't know what a Richstadt
_______________

Isn't Richstadt where Richie Rich keeps his skiing vacation lodge in the Alps?

Posted by: Anachronda at April 28, 2010 03:28 PM (3K4hn)

404 I'll have whatever kind of night you cough up for, sailor.

Posted by: Sally Ann Cavanaugh at April 28, 2010 03:30 PM (HlBxa)

405 Damn, grief for hours now. I guess I;ll have to go back to writing this shit in Word with a spell checker and putting up with the funky things it does to the format.

Posted by: Vic at April 28, 2010 03:30 PM (QrA9E)

406 Calling Gus, Calling Gus...

Please check into complex #4

Calling Gus, Calling Gus...

Posted by: Camp Director at April 28, 2010 03:30 PM (mMdWG)

407 Ro-ro - I shouldn't have let them take that photo of me fucking Lindsey Graham in the ass.

Posted by: Scooby Doo at April 28, 2010 03:31 PM (itK3i)

Posted by: Mjim at April 28, 2010 03:33 PM (mMdWG)

409

You guys have nothing.

Yes, that's right sunt (google or bing  it, bitch). We have nothing as the shit-stains in your party work feverishly to make sure that happens.

They've done a real good job at fucking up the country in such a short period of time. Trying to undo the Constitution and all those "negative liberties" Obama bemoaned back in 2001. (WTF is a negative liberty btw?)

Posted by: laceyunderalls loves me some Southerners at April 28, 2010 03:33 PM (IIQIM)

410 So explain to me how this party purity thing is supposed to work again?

Posted by: Evil Red Scandi at April 28, 2010 03:34 PM (erlfI)

411 Yawn.

Posted by: SlaveDog at April 28, 2010 03:35 PM (H6Jyg)

412 Complex #4,  is that that showers ovens?

Posted by: gus at April 28, 2010 03:35 PM (Vqruj)

413 HOTTIE ALERT...HOTTIE ALERT: 
Paul Ryan on Kudlow.....CNBC now....

Posted by: curious at April 28, 2010 03:36 PM (p302b)

414 Posted by: gus at April 28, 2010 07:35 PM (Vqruj)

I'm coming to NY, so I'll tell you the real story, my version....

Posted by: dinner jacket at April 28, 2010 03:37 PM (p302b)

415

@408: Obama and the Democrats win again.  Stimulus, cap-and-trade, card check, healthcare reform, jobs bill, and now financial reform.  The GOP caves every fucking time.  You guys have nothing.  America wins again.

You were doing very well until that last sentence.  America is simply bleeding out faster now.

Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at April 28, 2010 03:38 PM (kmEfr)

416 Anybody up for bukake?  I could use a shower.

Posted by: Sally Ann Cavanaugh at April 28, 2010 03:39 PM (1fanL)

417 Hey only 64 % think COngress doesn't know what they are doing, why noit show the GOP doesn't know either.

Posted by: bill-tb at April 28, 2010 03:39 PM (y+QfZ)

418 Complex #4,  is that that showers ovens?

No, just a re-education wing where you will learn to not ask
questions that are based on what is going on around you.

We here affectionately call it the "Acceptance Wing"

Posted by: Camp Director at April 28, 2010 03:40 PM (mMdWG)

419

Anybody up for bukake?

Yikes! In that case it's probably good to have nothing as Sally the Sunt points out. I'd pass.

Posted by: laceyunderalls loves me some Southerners at April 28, 2010 03:42 PM (IIQIM)

420 Anybody up for bukake?

More? Already?

Posted by: Bukaked out at April 28, 2010 03:43 PM (mMdWG)

421 "It's par for the course for what we have to do in Albany – fighting the forces of evil," Senator Parker said.

Parker shockingly identified the "enemies" he's fighting as other senators.

"These long-term, white supremacist, you know, Republican senators," he said.

That followed a free-for-all shouting match in Albany Tuesday where Parker heatedly objected to the questions asked by a white senator, John DeFrancisco of Syracuse, of a black nominee to the New York State Power Authority.

Senator Parker is due in court next month on the assault case. Sources tell CBS 2 his attorney is trying to cut a no-jail deal, but the district attorney isn't buying it.

The Brooklyn district attorney would like to try the assault case this summer, before Parker has to stand for reelection in a September primary. "


Posted by: dinner jacket at April 28, 2010 03:44 PM (p302b)

422 Everything's on the table, you fucking peasants.

Posted by: Senator Alan Simpson at April 28, 2010 03:44 PM (itK3i)

423

Off slut sock!

(But I'm still giving you the stink-eye, Barbarian. Jackhole).

Posted by: laceyunderalls at April 28, 2010 03:45 PM (IIQIM)

424 424 Anybody up for bukake? 

Momma says it makes my hair curly,

Posted by: The Extra Y Chromosome Southerner at April 28, 2010 03:45 PM (EL+OC)

425

I've never had the pleasure of being beaten senseless, but watching national politics makes me long for the experience.  It can't be any worse.

I cannot fucking believe they called the SWAT out on grandma...

Posted by: Truman North at April 28, 2010 03:46 PM (FjC5u)

426
That piece of shit Parker will be reelected from Rykers after he assaults another senator and gets convicted.  There's no way his district would ever NOT vote for him.

Posted by: Dang Straights at April 28, 2010 03:47 PM (tXxr7)

427 Truman, I can't believe that new yorkers are electing white supremacists.
"These long-term, white supremacist, you know, Republican senators," he said.

Posted by: dinner jacket at April 28, 2010 03:47 PM (p302b)

428 431

(But I'm still giving you the stink-eye, Barbarian. Jackhole).


Better the stink-eye than the stink....lol

Posted by: The Extra Y Chromosome Southerner at April 28, 2010 03:48 PM (EL+OC)

429 Um, yeah, Barbarian, it's the South that produces RINOs.  Run with that, genius.

Posted by: FUBAR at April 28, 2010 03:49 PM (1fanL)

430 Man, those riot police at the Quincy tea party makes the won look more insane and unstable with each passing moment.  Quick! Gas Gramma before she, she, she...
does what exactly, you fn' fool? Good God, getta grip, dickhead.

Posted by: Derak at April 28, 2010 03:49 PM (OPnal)

431 Parker is New York's problem. Obama is humanity's.

Posted by: Truman North at April 28, 2010 03:49 PM (FjC5u)

432

436 You can probably purchase How to Win Friends and Influence People at half.com. Something tells me you need to read it.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at April 28, 2010 03:51 PM (IIQIM)

433 Hey Ace, keep it up!  I was a bit underwhelmed for a while, but lately this blog has been a real powerhouse!

Posted by: the peanut gallery at April 28, 2010 03:51 PM (NurK6)

434

@435: "I can't believe that new yorkers are electing white supremacists."

All cracka-ass crackas are white supremacists, fool.  'Cept my boy, Joe.  He's down.

Rahm! Cabriole devant your ass in here and fetch me my Kools!

Posted by: Prezidizzle Obizzle at April 28, 2010 03:53 PM (kmEfr)

435 Posted by: The Extra Y Chromosome Southerner at April 28, 2010 07:48 PM (EL+OC) (AKA Mr PISSED from WA State)

I lived in WA State for 6 months back in 1974.  That place sucked even worse than CA and NY for libtard shitheads.

Posted by: Vic at April 28, 2010 03:54 PM (QrA9E)

436   11

Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory yet again.  PT Barnum was wrong, you CAN fool republican congresscritters all of the time.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at April 28, 2010 04:09 PM (cniXs) 

Wha?? PT Barnum said "theres a sucker born every minute" Same thing.

Posted by: Andy Capp at April 28, 2010 03:58 PM (68tQb)

437 From the TPM site linked to earlier:

The Senate unanimously consents to begin debate on financial reform.

Republicans, and Sen. Ben Nelson (D-NE), voted three times to block debate this week. This afternoon, after banking committee negotiators announced their talks had hit a standstill, Republicans decided to end their filibuster.

You can not find out which Republicans sold out, no roll call vote on Unanimous Consent.

Posted by: Vic at April 28, 2010 04:02 PM (QrA9E)

438 Pixy ate the italics, middle to paragraphs are from the site.

Posted by: Vic at April 28, 2010 04:03 PM (QrA9E)

439
So only 15 critters voted against the measure to continue automatic pay raises for Congress (spending freeze).

13 out of the 15 were members of the racist CBC. Shameless.

Any doubt these race-pimps have a vested interest in perpetuating the slums they represent?

Posted by: Dynomutt After Dark at April 28, 2010 04:04 PM (7/lTI)

440 NASA just announced they found evidence of life on Mars. Lawyers.

Posted by: torabora at April 28, 2010 04:07 PM (zXHU0)

441

That Poor Cocksucking Arlen Specter Has Regrets About Party Switch http://bit.ly/aqmsFh

''Well, I probably shouldn't say this,'' he said over lunch last month. ''But I have thought from time to time that I might have helped the country more if I'd stayed a Republican.''

Specter should feel comfortable in his new digs, after all according to Congressional Quarterly he voted with Republicans 58 percent of the time during when he was in the GOP.  Since converting he has voted along with the Democratic Party leadership 95% of the time.

Posted by: conscious, but incoherent at April 28, 2010 04:08 PM (YVZlY)

442 I lived in WA State for 6 months back in 1974.  That place sucked even worse than CA and NY for libtard shitheads.

You must have been west of the Cascades, Vic.  We on the East side would prefer to redraw our boundaries and meld with North Idaho.  They don't like Boise and we refuse to acknowledge anything west of Snoqualmie Pass. 

And they are exponentially worse than what you experienced in '74.

Posted by: Derak at April 28, 2010 04:11 PM (OPnal)

443
What's most maddening about this is despite the Republicans cooperating with rolling over for the Democrats on this farcical regulation bill, the Democrats will still call the Republicans the 'party of no,' 'in bed with the Wall Street fat-cats,' etc.

Posted by: Dynomutt After Dark at April 28, 2010 04:12 PM (7/lTI)

444

You've got to take over your party at the local level.  Here's how:  The Precinct Project.  Nevada and Utah now have conservatives in their GOP.

http://tinyurl.com/yka6dqc

 

Posted by: RushBabe at April 28, 2010 04:13 PM (LKkE8)

445 You must have been west of the Cascades, Vic.

Yep, Bremerton, a Navy town which you would expect to be more conservative.  But it wasn't.

Posted by: Vic at April 28, 2010 04:13 PM (QrA9E)

446 I thought the Puerto Rico thing was far-fetched, until I looked up the bill #. Don't they know that ceding sovereignty has never worked out well?

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at April 28, 2010 04:14 PM (yfJ6g)

447

@444: "Even with the evidence right in front of their eyes, people still believe that it's the Republicans who are in Wall Street's pocket."

That belief will never change - the Dems won that fight decisively years ago when the GOP never really opted to refute the charge.  Thus, to the general public, the GOP are forever cast as the party of Wall Street. 

Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at April 28, 2010 04:14 PM (kmEfr)

448
And I'm beginning to wonder if Dick Morris is a jonah.

Posted by: Dynomutt After Dark at April 28, 2010 04:15 PM (7/lTI)

449 This was not a fight worth having right now.  I know everyone wants to play Walking Tall with the Dems, but this was a designed trap from the beginning.  It was time to fold early and play the next hand (immigration). 

Posted by: Knaws at April 28, 2010 04:16 PM (Z2WgS)

450 You all have to watch the SWAT video. Its hilarious. They march in going left left left right left practicing parade formation. I suppose it prevented fits of laughter. Oh and at the end with sarcastic tone 'you people are vicious' and someone else going 'they didn't do anything wrong'

Posted by: Palerider at April 28, 2010 04:17 PM (dkExz)

451 What makes everyone think the R-tards caved?  This could be very, very good for them.  This legislation is just another protection scheme for the big players...do you honestly think Goldman Sachs doesn't have a bit of silver in every re-election pot and a lucrative promise for every post-Senate job applicant? 

They're all corrupt bastards, and caving might not have anything at all to do with this latest POS that they'll pass.  Oh, yes, they will pass it.

Posted by: BrendaK at April 28, 2010 04:18 PM (lC+Xp)

452 This was not a fight worth having right now.

I have heard that same BS argument from the squishies ON EVERY GD ISSUE THAT COMES UP.

When they have a vote to formerly suspend the Constitution and make this a single party communist country with Obama leader for life will it finally be a fight worth having?

Of course by then it will be too fucking late. 

Posted by: Vic at April 28, 2010 04:19 PM (QrA9E)

453
yeah....no.

Posted by: Dynomutt After Dark at April 28, 2010 04:19 PM (7/lTI)

454

@458: "It was time to fold early and play the next hand (immigration)."

Yeah - he who folds and runs away, lives to fold another day.  Remember, retreat/surrender are the default Republican positions on all matters.  That wasn't a tactical decision.

Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at April 28, 2010 04:19 PM (kmEfr)

455

Sen. Lincoln’s clock beyond cleaned – it’s in pieces: http://url4.eu/32UGk

Seems Arkansas is sick of her and the party she rode in on:  Arkansas Senator Blanche Lincoln has fallen to her lowest levels of support yet in her bid for reelection, while her five top Republican challengers now pull over 50% support from Likely Voters in the state.

 

Posted by: conscious, but incoherent at April 28, 2010 04:19 PM (YVZlY)

456
Remember the Sotomayormccheese hearings? That was another "hill not worth dying on."


Posted by: Dynomutt After Dark at April 28, 2010 04:22 PM (7/lTI)

457 443
I lived in WA State for 6 months back in 1974.  That place sucked even worse than CA and NY for libtard shitheads.

Be that as it may, we still don't have intercourse with our first cousins and we don't have bugs. How's the humidity there in Jackstick Holler btw?

Posted by: Barbarian at April 28, 2010 04:22 PM (EL+OC)

458 409

STOP FOR A FUCKING SECOND AND THINK ABOUT THIS.

 

"Sounds like someone needs a 'Re-Ned -u-Cation!"

Posted by: All Seeing Ned at April 28, 2010 04:24 PM (V5tm/)

459

@462: "When they have a vote to formerly suspend the Constitution and make this a single party communist country with Obama leader for life will it finally be a fight worth having?"

No! We're saving our political capital for really important issues.1  Sheesh, don't you rubes understand strategery?

 

 

1Like resolutions on congratulating Timothy P. Schuster, of Davenport, Iowa, on becoming an Eagle Scout.  Way to go, champ!

Posted by: The GOP at April 28, 2010 04:24 PM (kmEfr)

460
Blanche is gonna lose her primary. That's bad news for the Republican because he won't have ol' stupid Blanche to kick around during the general. The Dem who wins the primary won't have Blanche's baggage and will probably win.

Things are not shaping up as we'd like, for November.

Posted by: Dynomutt After Dark at April 28, 2010 04:24 PM (7/lTI)

461

@466: "Remember the Sotomayormccheese hearings? That was another 'hill not worth dying on.'"

This chap obviously understands strategery!  The 2008 Presidential Election was another good example.....

Posted by: The GOP at April 28, 2010 04:26 PM (kmEfr)

462 470 Every time a corrupt old Dem retires, it's bad news for us. Don't really see how it can be prevented, though. The Dems do whatever they want, & few (in the Senate, at least) seem to care.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at April 28, 2010 04:27 PM (yfJ6g)

463

@470: "Things are not shaping up as we'd like, for November."

Whoever wins, we lose.  Our only choice at the polls is "Socialism NOW!" or "Don't be hasty, Socialism Soon!"

Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at April 28, 2010 04:28 PM (kmEfr)

464 Be that as it may, we still don't have intercourse with our first cousins and we don't have bugs.

This kind of shit-talking from somebody living in the Horse-Fucking Capital of America? The state that's opening up animal-fucking petting zoos?

Jesus, douchebag, no wonder you didn't want to admit where you were from.

Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at April 28, 2010 04:33 PM (HlBxa)

465 Fuck the GOP.

That is all.

Posted by: Rum, Bitch Goddess at April 28, 2010 04:35 PM (gofDd)

466 Like resolutions on congratulating Timothy P. Schuster, of Davenport, Iowa, on becoming an Eagle Scout. Cross that street on your own, mother fucker.

Posted by: Timothy P. Schuster, Eagle Scou at April 28, 2010 04:36 PM (4Kl5M)

467 Weaklings.  They are all worthless weaklings.  Just more proof that every election is nothing more than a choice of evils, as we wait for the inevitable break down.

Posted by: Reactionary at April 28, 2010 04:37 PM (4nbyM)

468

we still don't have intercourse with our first cousins

 

What the hell is that about? That's lib/hollywood/dem stereotyped propaganda.

Get a clue

 

Posted by: dagny at April 28, 2010 04:40 PM (a//uc)

469 My name is Timothy P. Schuster, millionaire Eagle Scout. I own a mansion and a yacht worthless congressional resolution signed by complete pussies.

Posted by: Timothy P. Schuster, Eagle Scout at April 28, 2010 04:41 PM (HlBxa)

470 Posted by: dagny at April 28, 2010 08:40 PM (a//uc)

He's been on that BS rant all afternoon. Hopefully he'll get banned soon.

Posted by: Vic at April 28, 2010 04:42 PM (QrA9E)

471 I've been away. My elderly neighbor (normandy first wave) died this morning. Then my son's mentor, a young coach, 28 years old, apparently perfectly well and a wonderful guy who I saw last night, and who just got married, dropped dead in the parking lot at work. It's been a tearful day. 

Posted by: dagny at April 28, 2010 04:45 PM (a//uc)

472

Posted by: dagny at April 28, 2010 08:45 PM (a//uc)

Wow...  That's a rough one. 

Posted by: Reactionary at April 28, 2010 04:47 PM (4nbyM)

473 482 I sat with him last night. He came to see the boys play their last home lax game as seniors and brought my husband a cigar they had talked about a month ago. He was a college athelete and still coached 2 sports--on the field type of guy. He was rising in his career, had a new beautiful wife, skinny, fit, happy, funny, friendly, conservative and adored by the high school boys. I just can't believe it. The little catholic high school and his elem school where he coached the little cyo basketball team are in stunned disbelief. I can't even wrap my mind around it. 

Posted by: dagny at April 28, 2010 04:52 PM (a//uc)

474 Yep, tough one. Sorry for your loss.

Posted by: Vic at April 28, 2010 04:54 PM (QrA9E)

475

Posted by: dagny at April 28, 2010 08:52 PM (a//uc)

I have had a similar experience.  I worked with a young lady who had an aneurism and dropped dead at 27 years old.  She sat next to me every day.  I got a call from a mutual friend one Saturday, and that was that.  It was a somber occasion.

Just goes to show that the curtain can come down at any moment.  Best to be ready.

Posted by: Reactionary at April 28, 2010 04:58 PM (4nbyM)

476 What a bunch of gutless fucking cowards.

Posted by: The Oracle at April 28, 2010 05:08 PM (F6+/O)

477  
 Members of the news media are ignoring Obama's bank heist legislation.
Under the guise of protecting Main Street and the middle-class, President Obama and his Chicago political machine (Emanuel, Axelrod, Durbin, Jarrett) are secretly preparing to shift thousands of jobs from New York City to Chicago – along with billions of dollars of tax revenue.

 The Chicago political gangÂ’s first step in trying to move the financial center of our country and the financial capital of the world from the Big Apple to the Windy City will begin with this so-called “reform.”  And worse yet, New York Democratic Congressional delegation led by Senators Chuck Schumer and Kirsten Gillibrand, are standing by letting it happen even while welcoming President Obama to New York City.

 In a nutshell, if the current “reform” legislation passes as is, the Chicago Mercantile Exchange, run by President ObamaÂ’s buddies, would immediately establish an almost complete monopoly on the exchanges needed to comply with the legislation dealing with the trillions of dollars of derivatives transactions each year.  It is estimated that the Chicago Mercantile Exchange would benefit immediately with over $1 billion in additional revenue due to this heist in the name of “reform” (perhaps the Obama SEC should investigate this deal).

Currently, most of these derivative transactions are processed through New York-based banks or financial firms with significant trading operations in New York City.  These transactions generate approximately $28 billion in annual profits of which billions of taxes are paid to New York City and New York State.  They employ thousands of persons and donate to local charities and little leagues.  This also generates hundreds of millions of dollars of additional revenue for smaller banks, brokerages and other businesses that feed off the financial sector.

 If ObamaÂ’s bank heist legislation is passed, the New York-based exchanges would not have enough time to set up the operations necessary to accommodate the new rules and hence the Chicago Mercantile Exchange would establish itself as the center of most of these transactions.  The way this business works, once you have an “open interest” in one exchange, you keep most of your business with that exchange (to offset margin requirements); so once that is established it is virtually impossible for it to ever be moved. This business will be forever moved from New York City to Chicago and with it many financial institutions would move more of their operations to Chicago as well.  It is conceivable that one day even the stock markets could move to Chicago.

 This bill is a job stimulus bill for Chicago and a job killer for New York City.  Senators Schumer and Gillibrand, along with the rest of the Democratic Congressional delegation, continue to kowtow to President Obama and his Chicago political gang instead of standing up and fighting on behalf of New Yorkers!  ThatÂ’s their job and if they continue to prove they arenÂ’t prepared to do their job, then New Yorkers are going to shift their jobs to someone who will stand up and fight for them in November.

This will be the largest transfer of wealth from one city to another in world history.  Imagine what would happen to New York City and New York State if Chicago became the financial center of the United States and the financial capital of the world.  If President Obama and his buddies at the Chicago Mercantile Exchange have their way, you wonÂ’t have to imagine too hard – this will become the Obama legacy on New York, otherwise known as the Great Chicago Bank Heist of the 21st Century.
What a cocksucker.

Posted by: sickinmass at April 28, 2010 05:22 PM (tamie)

478 SIM, a lot of folks, before the financial debacle were saying that London had really taken over the financial world and that NY and Chicago could not compete.  Makes you wonder, doesn't it.

Don't underestimate NY....or NYer's....

Beck has been talking a lot about this chicago exchange....don't know too much about it but Beck is intimating that this is part of some sort of grand plan....
by saying he is figuring out who is "behind it"....

Guess in the coming weeks Beck will spill his beans ...if he has any....

Posted by: curious at April 28, 2010 05:49 PM (p302b)

479 #489.....lest you forget...NY endured nine eleven......

Never been to Chicago....oddly enough been everywhere else...
Every time someone suggests Chicago....I decline....get really really bad vibes from Chicago....

Posted by: curious at April 28, 2010 05:52 PM (p302b)

480 488  
 Members of the news media are ignoring Obama's bank heist legislation.
Under the guise of protecting Main Street and the middle-class, President Obama and his Chicago political machine (Emanuel, Axelrod, Durbin, Jarrett) are secretly preparing to shift thousands of jobs from New York City to Chicago – along with billions of dollars of tax revenue.


 The Chicago political gangÂ’s first step in trying to move the financial center of our country and the financial capital of the world from the Big Apple to the Windy City will begin with this so-called “reform.”  And worse yet, New York Democratic Congressional delegation led by Senators Chuck Schumer and Kirsten Gillibrand, are standing by letting it happen even while welcoming President Obama to New York City.

 In a nutshell, if the current “reform” legislation passes as is, the Chicago Mercantile Exchange, run by President ObamaÂ’s buddies, would immediately establish an almost complete monopoly on the exchanges needed to comply with the legislation dealing with the trillions of dollars of derivatives transactions each year.  It is estimated that the Chicago Mercantile Exchange would benefit immediately with over $1 billion in additional revenue due to this heist in the name of “reform” (perhaps the Obama SEC should investigate this deal).

Currently, most of these derivative transactions are processed through New York-based banks or financial firms with significant trading operations in New York City.  These transactions generate approximately $28 billion in annual profits of which billions of taxes are paid to New York City and New York State.  They employ thousands of persons and donate to local charities and little leagues.  This also generates hundreds of millions of dollars of additional revenue for smaller banks, brokerages and other businesses that feed off the financial sector.

 If ObamaÂ’s bank heist legislation is passed, the New York-based exchanges would not have enough time to set up the operations necessary to accommodate the new rules and hence the Chicago Mercantile Exchange would establish itself as the center of most of these transactions.  The way this business works, once you have an “open interest” in one exchange, you keep most of your business with that exchange (to offset margin requirements); so once that is established it is virtually impossible for it to ever be moved. This business will be forever moved from New York City to Chicago and with it many financial institutions would move more of their operations to Chicago as well.  It is conceivable that one day even the stock markets could move to Chicago.

 This bill is a job stimulus bill for Chicago and a job killer for New York City.  Senators Schumer and Gillibrand, along with the rest of the Democratic Congressional delegation, continue to kowtow to President Obama and his Chicago political gang instead of standing up and fighting on behalf of New Yorkers!  ThatÂ’s their job and if they continue to prove they arenÂ’t prepared to do their job, then New Yorkers are going to shift their jobs to someone who will stand up and fight for them in November.

This will be the largest transfer of wealth from one city to another in world history.  Imagine what would happen to New York City and New York State if Chicago became the financial center of the United States and the financial capital of the world.  If President Obama and his buddies at the Chicago Mercantile Exchange have their way, you wonÂ’t have to imagine too hard – this will become the Obama legacy on New York, otherwise known as the Great Chicago Bank Heist of the 21st Century.
What a cocksucker.

Posted by: sickinmass at April 28, 2010 09:22 PM (tamie)

And that's only part of the story.  

Posted by: ^Worth Reading - Kudos^ at April 28, 2010 08:14 PM (ITzbJ)

481 Be that as it may, we still don't have intercourse with our first cousins and we don't have bugs. How's the humidity there in Jackstick Holler btw?

Posted by: Barbarian

You don't speak for this conservative Washingtonian.

DIAF, Bigot. You aren't helping the conservative cause with your mental problem. You should go back to the Democrats ... they think highly of bigots who badmouth white southerners.


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