December 16, 2010

BREAKING: Tax Bill In Trouble In The House? UPDATE: Procedural Trickery Backfired?
— DrewM

Via Michelle Malkin, the Democrats have pulled the rule that would have allowed the debate on the tax deal.

RT @jamiedupree: URGENT URGENT URGENT - House Democrats just pulled the rule off the floor for the tax deal - must be short on votes

They've moved onto a list of mundane bills that they are simply postponing final action on. It's just time filler at this point.

Sounds like big trouble for the deal.

Update: House leader says it's just "a bump" but that at the moment, they have no idea what they are going to do about it. Yeah, they've got some real issues here.

One of the big sticking points is Democrats in the House really want to up the Death Tax but the Senate GOP has made it clear this is a take it or leave offer. Basically, it's the House Democrats (and some Republicans) against the 81 members of the Senate who voted for the deal in a game of chicken.

UPDATE 2: Gabe sends along links to NRO's Daniel Foster who thinks Nancy may have boxed herself in with the procedure she used to bring the bill to the floor. Basically it would mean Democrats could vote for a hike in the Death Tax but even if that failed (which it would), they'd be passing the underlying tax deal. Seems liberals want to vote on them separately but can't under the proposed rule.

Somewhat related: Mitch McConnell says no to porked up Omnibus spending bill.


"Today IÂ’m introducing this: a clean, one-page continuing resolution that keeps government funded through February 18th at current spending levels. Once the new Congress is sworn in, weÂ’ll have a chance to pass a less expensive bill free of wasteful spending."

Why Republicans would agree to anything else is beyond me. Their position will be so much stronger in a few weeks, it's idiotic to consider anything else. Of course the real issue is it might be tougher for some pork addicted Senators to get what they want in a few weeks, so they might sell everyone else out for their own "goodies" (Princes Lisa comes to mind).

So far the only Republican yes vote is Robert Bennett (Appropriator, UT), who was denied renomination over his appetite for pork. A spender to the end.

Meanwhile, Jim DeMint is sticking to his threat to make the clerks read all 1,924 pages of the bill. It took 2 days to print the damn thing, so it will likely take at least that long to read it.

Posted by: DrewM at 08:59 AM | Comments (215)
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1 Good.  Somebody neds to remind Pelosi et al that we won. Then save the taxpayers coming out of the gate in January with no quid pro quo.

Posted by: Quilly Mammoth at December 16, 2010 09:02 AM (8Q57F)

2 Sounds like big trouble for the deal.

Good.  Especially if not passing this shit means the end of Obama's presidency.

Posted by: Bomber at December 16, 2010 09:02 AM (qzoN5)

3 Yes!
Anything that slows this down could ultimately help to kill it.
 Unfortuantely, I have to assume that whoever isn't toeing the Dem line is about to get a juicy bribe/kickback.

Posted by: Lincolntf at December 16, 2010 09:03 AM (MiG8u)

4 House Democrats just pulled the rule off the floor for the tax deal - must be short on votes

Drew what rule is this one? What is MM talking about?

Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2010 09:03 AM (e4sSD)

5 Good.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 16, 2010 09:03 AM (UOM48)

6 Oh, people I would not get my hopes up on this. In the end they WILL pass it. This is more crap designed to try to get even more spending.

Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2010 09:05 AM (e4sSD)

7 Didn't Obama say that if this fails his presidency is over? Talk about incentive....

Posted by: dagny at December 16, 2010 09:05 AM (aTI8L)

8 It's likely over the estate tax, is what I'm guessing. The Dems wanted 55% and the Rs negotiated it down to 35%, but many of them wanted a minimum of 45%.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at December 16, 2010 09:05 AM (EPuYQ)

9 But.b.b.b.but.....Obama's legacy? His next term?!?!?!

Posted by: laceyunderalls at December 16, 2010 09:06 AM (iwm1/)

10 This is kabuki theater, methinks.  They'll pass this crap sandwich in the end.

Question is, who is trying to impress whom with this move?

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at December 16, 2010 09:07 AM (9hSKh)

11 I have on Fox. Is DC just gloomy today or are they getting the snow? Looks nasty.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at December 16, 2010 09:07 AM (iwm1/)

12 The gift that keeps on giving.  This is the best possible scenario.

The left and right wings are fighting this, for different reasons.  Since the right wing has the high ground, this is great.

Posted by: frode at December 16, 2010 09:07 AM (TdgA9)

13 Light up or leave me alone.

Posted by: Barry O at December 16, 2010 09:08 AM (1/LL8)

14
18 days left for Speaker Witch.

Posted by: Senator Soothsayer (R-AoS) at December 16, 2010 09:08 AM (uFokq)

15
Well, 45 is still lower than 55, right?

I mean, it's better than nothing, right?

Posted by: Senator Soothsayer (R-AoS) at December 16, 2010 09:09 AM (uFokq)

16 At the risk of paraphrasing Lurch, I was for this bill (when it was just taxes staying the same) before I was against the steaming pile of spending shit that it became.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 16, 2010 09:09 AM (kOMUP)

17 Looks nasty.

It is.  And not just the weather.

Posted by: Bomber at December 16, 2010 09:10 AM (qzoN5)

18  Unfortuantely, I have to assume that whoever isn't toeing the Dem line is about to get a juicy bribe/kickback.

This.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at December 16, 2010 09:10 AM (4ucxv)

19
The House votes for extra rights for homosexuals, but the top income earners must be discriminated against!

Posted by: Senator Soothsayer (R-AoS) at December 16, 2010 09:10 AM (uFokq)

20 But....what about the swine poop studies in NC?  The humanity!

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 16, 2010 09:11 AM (UOM48)

21
moar Louisiana Purchases, pleez!

Posted by: Senator Soothsayer (R-AoS) at December 16, 2010 09:11 AM (uFokq)

22 16 Well, 45 is still lower than 55, right?

I mean, it's better than nothing, right?

(1) I never said that and (2) it should be at 0%. The higher it gets, the more likely it's a deal-breaker for some R reps in-favor.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at December 16, 2010 09:12 AM (EPuYQ)

23 Some somebodies are angling for a bigger payday.  Boned again.

Posted by: SurferDoc at December 16, 2010 09:13 AM (o3bYL)

24 Any chance the House is playing tit for tat with the GOP in the Senate?  A la: we'll pass your tax  'cuts' when YOU pass our holy Omnibus. Stinks like a Reid-Pelosi BM.

Posted by: Lizabth at December 16, 2010 09:13 AM (JZBti)

25 So where do I put the hole?

Posted by: maple tree hole puter inner at December 16, 2010 09:15 AM (QClI1)

26 A la: we'll pass your tax  'cuts' when YOU pass our holy Omnibus.

That'd be great.  Then we say, "fuck you, we won't pass either."  Not that the Rs would do that.

Posted by: Bomber at December 16, 2010 09:15 AM (qzoN5)

27 I'll force a reading of the bill damnit!

Posted by: DeMint at December 16, 2010 09:15 AM (EL+OC)

28 Lacy, it's snowing in DC

Posted by: Quilly Mammoth at December 16, 2010 09:16 AM (8Q57F)

29 Political theatre with third-rate actors. We are doomed.

Posted by: Noted Ace of Spades psychologist Country Joe and the Fish at December 16, 2010 09:16 AM (le5qc)

30
(1) I never said that...

It wasn't directed at you. It was for all the people on this site who were cheer leading for this shit-sandwich, last week.

Posted by: Senator Soothsayer (R-AoS) at December 16, 2010 09:17 AM (uFokq)

31

Snow good. I want a blizzard to shut it down. It would be a Christmas miracle!!!1!1!

In sad news though, Blake Edwards, director of Breakfast at Tiffany's, died today at age 88.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at December 16, 2010 09:18 AM (iwm1/)

32
and Pink Panther!

Posted by: Senator Soothsayer (R-AoS) at December 16, 2010 09:19 AM (uFokq)

33 Just kidding, guys!  I wouldn't really make you do that...

Still friends?

Posted by: DeMint at December 16, 2010 09:19 AM (eXYuE)

34 Poor Barry.  You just know he's pacing around, smoking Marlboro after Marlboro, pissing and moaning about delaying his vacay to Hawaii.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 16, 2010 09:20 AM (UOM48)

35
Breakfast at Tiffany's was a great movie.

Audrey Hepburn was the most beautiful woman in Hollywood - all time.

And Jed Clampett was in the movie, too.

And Col Hannibal  from the A-Team.

Posted by: Senator Soothsayer (R-AoS) at December 16, 2010 09:20 AM (uFokq)

36

And Blind Date.

I loved that movie.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at December 16, 2010 09:21 AM (iwm1/)

37 This is more like it. Had my doubts about McConnell, but his 1 page bill is perfect. Hope DeMint sticks with his plan to have the whole thing read. If they could get someone with a Porky Pig-style speech impediment to read it, that'd be all the Christmas present I'd need. So far, DeMint is the only possible GOP candidate of any interest to me in 2012, even though he says he's not interested.

Posted by: cali grump at December 16, 2010 09:21 AM (hL0k8)

38 Oh, B. Won, won't you save my precedency?

Posted by: Slappy McPrissypants at December 16, 2010 09:21 AM (GwPRU)

39

The Democrats wouldn't be having these problems if they just explained themselves better.  Maybe a Power Point presentation entitled "This time, you've got me." emailed to the country would do the trick. 

I'm beginning to think the whole planet healing and ocean level thingys are in trouble, too.

 

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at December 16, 2010 09:22 AM (B+qrE)

40

In sad news though, Blake Edwards, director of Breakfast at Tiffany's, died today at age 88.

I had not heard that.  BaT's is easily one of my favorite movies - really anything with Audrey in it but that one is great.

Posted by: Roadking at December 16, 2010 09:22 AM (3XzWF)

41

As I understand it the House sets rules for a debate before the debate occurs. These limit the number of amendments, limit time, etc. This is often used by the majority to limit the ability of the minority to offer amendments and influence the proceedings. (Dems used to tell Republicans that they should just stay home for all the influence they would be allowed to have.)

Passing the rule is usually pretty pro forma, what ever the leaders propose is voted for. Sounds like there is revolting going on in the majority ranks. (And they are pretty revolting.)

Posted by: Have Blue at December 16, 2010 09:23 AM (mV+es)

42 A Christmas miracle. Let's hope it goes down in flames. Shut down the govt. Allow GOP to make a better deal with more power in congress. Ends Obama's presidency.

Posted by: Chicago Jedi at December 16, 2010 09:23 AM (WZFkG)

43 Rep. Issa just posted a dedication to Tea Party, seeing as how this is the 237th anniversary of the Boston Tea Party.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at December 16, 2010 09:23 AM (EPuYQ)

44 Hope DeMint sticks with his plan to have the whole thing read.

DeMint has already been calibrated by McConnell. McCain though said he would call for it to be read this morning on F&F.

Now we will see if they calibrate the Maverick. Hell they never have in the past when he went liberal.

Of course, knowing McCain he was probably just lying anyway.

Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2010 09:24 AM (e4sSD)

45 A Christmas miracle. Let's hope it goes down in flames.

Not a chance.

Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2010 09:24 AM (e4sSD)

46 In sad news though, Blake Edwards, director of Breakfast at Tiffany's, died today at age 88. In sadder news so did Baseball Hall of Famer and Navy War Hero Bob Feller

Posted by: nevergiveup at December 16, 2010 09:24 AM (0GFWk)

47 yeah, I don't see why the GOP 42 are seemingly surrendering and not playing fillibuster hardball. they won, the 11th has no moral grounds to do anything but die.

Posted by: joeindc44 at December 16, 2010 09:24 AM (QxSug)

48 Guess I am just a gloomy Gus about this stuff recently.  I fully believe the socialist democrats will not only get this tax deal, but the omnibus, dadt, dream act and start treaty thru in the next 20 days. I see no hope or change, just kabuki to a fast beat song.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at December 16, 2010 09:24 AM (xQAv5)

49

One thing I was never sure of watching that movie cause no-one ever came right out and said it, but she was a hooker, right?

Posted by: eleven at December 16, 2010 09:25 AM (7DB+a)

50

In sad news though, Blake Edwards, director of Breakfast at Tiffany's, died today at age 88.

The original Pink Panther flicks, too.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at December 16, 2010 09:25 AM (B+qrE)

51 My 42 was a reply to vic at 4. (Forgot to put that in.)

Posted by: Have Blue at December 16, 2010 09:25 AM (mV+es)

52 Wow they just said on Fox that Blake Edwards was married to Julie Andrews. I didn't know that.

Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2010 09:25 AM (e4sSD)

53

Of course, knowing McCain he was probably just lying anyway.

For the last time, I did not eat that eclair out of the garbage!...oh, you said, 'he'...

Posted by: Meggy Mac at December 16, 2010 09:26 AM (z8dhf)

54 DeMint has already been calibrated by McConnell.

I thought DeMint was still good on this one.  He only gave up on having START read.

Posted by: Bomber at December 16, 2010 09:26 AM (qzoN5)

55

In sadder news so did Baseball Hall of Famer and Navy War Hero Bob Feller

Had not heard that. Who will be the third??

Posted by: laceyunderalls at December 16, 2010 09:26 AM (iwm1/)

56 Per the Update; good for McConnell, although what he's saying makes so much sense it probably sounds like Chinese to the dems and sadly some of the R's as well.

Posted by: Roadking at December 16, 2010 09:27 AM (3XzWF)

57 This whole entire tax bill is UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

It originated in the Senate and not the house.

Go look it up, I'll wait.

Posted by: Unclefacts, Confuse A Cat, Ltd. at December 16, 2010 09:27 AM (eCAn3)

58 Posted by: Have Blue at December 16, 2010 01:25 PM (mV+es)

Thanks, I didn't understand what rule they were pulling.

Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2010 09:27 AM (e4sSD)

59

Wow they just said on Fox that Blake Edwards was married to Julie Andrews.

Victor/Victoria.  I *think* he directed that, too.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at December 16, 2010 09:27 AM (iwm1/)

60

Had not heard that. Who will be the third??

Holbrooke was the third.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at December 16, 2010 09:28 AM (B+qrE)

61 Cops tackle belligerent dumb ass outside of Dirksen Building

Posted by: Quilly Mammoth at December 16, 2010 09:28 AM (8Q57F)

62 55 I thought DeMint was still good on this one.  He only gave up on having START read.

That still wasn't enough to keep him off a bunch of RINO lists yesterday, is what I saw on some other conservative blogs. They want him primaried.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at December 16, 2010 09:28 AM (EPuYQ)

63

One thing I was never sure of watching that movie cause no-one ever came right out and said it, but she was a hooker, right?

I called Julia Roberts a Hooker, once.

good times.

Posted by: Jason Alezander at December 16, 2010 09:28 AM (z8dhf)

64 "make the clerks read all 1,924 pages"

http://tinyurl.com/2upylln

House Dems are bringing in John Moschitta.

Posted by: Radioactive Satellite Of LOVE at December 16, 2010 09:29 AM (LdYLm)

65 Someone needs to remind the R senators they signed off on filibustering anything except the income tax rates AND the budget.

Posted by: Rocks at December 16, 2010 09:29 AM (Q1lie)

66 This whole entire tax bill is UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

It originated in the Senate and not the house.

Go look it up, I'll wait.

Like we care.

Posted by: Congress at December 16, 2010 09:29 AM (qzoN5)

67 This whole entire tax bill is UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

The Constitution? Seriously?

Posted by: Nancy "birth control will save the economy" Pelosi at December 16, 2010 09:30 AM (4ucxv)

68 64

One thing I was never sure of watching that movie cause no-one ever came right out and said it, but she was a hooker, right?

I called Julia Roberts a Hooker, once.

good times.

Posted by: Jason Alezander at December 16, 2010 01:28 PM (z8dhf)

and pimp-smacked her, too. Gotta keep that pimp hand strong.

Posted by: Jason Alezander II at December 16, 2010 09:30 AM (LdYLm)

69 And what happened to all that bluster that the repubs would filibuster everything until a budget and tax deal are done.  It is so easy for the dems when their opponent is chicken little.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at December 16, 2010 09:30 AM (xQAv5)

70 Blake Edwards and Bob Feller , vile scum of the worst kind.!11!1!!!!1!!111 See these fuckers croaking this week!1!1!1!1!11! Unpatriotic death tax dodgers !1!!1!1!!1 Give till it hurts, I do!1!!1!!11

Posted by: Warren 'Big Hearted' Buffett at December 16, 2010 09:30 AM (le5qc)

71 60 He did, that was a fun movie....

Posted by: FU52 at December 16, 2010 09:31 AM (BSVaa)

72 Tax bill falling apart, Gov to close down, and it's snowing in DC. Sounds like a good day to me

Posted by: nevergiveup at December 16, 2010 09:31 AM (0GFWk)

73 Is Helen Thomas still shuffling around?  I've got her on my list for 2010.  Time's a-runnin' out.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 16, 2010 09:31 AM (UOM48)

74

Remember, the House took the bloodbath this time around, and the dems are pissed about it. You have 170+ pubs who have incentive to hold the line, coming into majority status in a couple weeks. 50+ commielibs so pissed they can't see straight. That adds up to over 220 against. Will be interesting to watch it play out.

Just a thought. If your boss constantly ran you down, said how lousy your work was, said you would always be a failure, how much effort would you put in your job? Would you really care anymore? Yes, a number of them are doing a lousy job, but lets focus on the losers and stop lumping them all together. We have a new group coming in and judging them by by others may end up being a self-fulfilling prophesy.

Posted by: bigred at December 16, 2010 09:31 AM (cX9pO)

75 73 Tax bill falling apart, Gov to close down, and it's snowing in DC. Sounds like a good day to me

Posted by: nevergiveup at December 16, 2010 01:31 PM (0GFWk)

Maybe the good Lord will look with favor upon us and send another tornado to Washington, DC like he did when the British were burning it during the War of 1812.

Posted by: Radioactive Satellite Of LOVE at December 16, 2010 09:32 AM (LdYLm)

76

Posted by: Warren 'Big Hearted' Buffett at December 16, 2010 01:30 PM (le5qc)

I designate that as officially funny.

It could also be the old coot.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at December 16, 2010 09:32 AM (B+qrE)

77

House Dems are bringing in John Moschitta.

I am assuming that Someone in the Republican Caucus has to have poor enough hearing to make them bring in a Sign Language interpreter.  

That should slow up the speed reader.

Posted by: garrett at December 16, 2010 09:32 AM (z8dhf)

78 Like we care.

Posted by: Congress at December 16, 2010 01:29 PM (qzoN5)


You will.

Posted by: November 2012 at December 16, 2010 09:33 AM (eCAn3)

79 71 Were the heirs in the room @ time of death?

Posted by: FU52 at December 16, 2010 09:34 AM (BSVaa)

80

Maybe the good Lord will look with favor upon us and send another tornado to Washington, DC like he did when the British were burning it during the War of 1812.

Posted by: Radioactive Satellite Of LOVE at December 16, 2010 01:32 PM (LdYLm)


Let's tell the British school hooligans that it was DC that increased their tuition

Posted by: Unclefacts, Confuse A Cat, Ltd. at December 16, 2010 09:34 AM (eCAn3)

81

and pimp-smacked her, too. Gotta keep that pimp hand strong.

 

I can't believe how pissed Richard Gere got about that...something must have crawled up his ass and died that day.

Posted by: Jason Alexander at December 16, 2010 09:34 AM (z8dhf)

82 78

House Dems are bringing in John Moschitta.

I am assuming that Someone in the Republican Caucus has to have poor enough hearing to make them bring in a Sign Language interpreter.  

That should slow up the speed reader.

Posted by: garrett at December 16, 2010 01:32 PM (z8dhf)

Heh, heh, forgot about me, eh? I have the fastest hands in Washington. Just ask any of my interns.

Posted by: Bill Groper Clinton at December 16, 2010 09:34 AM (LdYLm)

83 I am assuming that Someone in the Republican Caucus has to have poor enough hearing to make them bring in a Sign Language interpreter. 

Have it read in each language govt forms need to be printed in.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 16, 2010 09:35 AM (tf9Ne)

84 Snow good. I want a blizzard to shut it down. It would be a Christmas miracle!!!1!1!

I'm with you on that. A repeat performance of February's snowmageddon would be sweet.

Posted by: NM Hick at December 16, 2010 09:35 AM (IzuWw)

85 Pence tried to put a tax cut extension to a floor vote, is what I'm reading on The Hill. I think it was DeMint who attempted to do the same in the Senate.

A key sticking point on this one is indeed the estate tax, so Rep. Earl Pomeroy (D-N.D.) wants a separate vote on renewing it to 45%.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at December 16, 2010 09:36 AM (EPuYQ)

86 85 Snow good. I want a blizzard to shut it down. It would be a Christmas miracle!!!1!1!

I'm with you on that. A repeat performance of February's snowmageddon would be sweet.

Posted by: NM Hick at December 16, 2010 01:35 PM (IzuWw)

Hey, I'm willing to kick in 10 bucks to fly AlGore to DC for two weeks.

Posted by: Radioactive Satellite Of LOVE at December 16, 2010 09:36 AM (LdYLm)

87

Posted by: Bill Groper Clinton at December 16, 2010 01:34 PM (LdYLm)

You are distracted easily enough...

Posted by: Chubby Intern in a Blue Dress at December 16, 2010 09:36 AM (z8dhf)

88 God I hated that damn film. Phoney people, phoney story. "Kookiness".  Rent Boy befriends hooker, hilarity ensues. Touching moments. Gag.

Posted by: SurferDoc at December 16, 2010 09:36 AM (o3bYL)

89

didja see the clip of Gibbs being asked if they know what's in the 2,000 page spending bill? he, with a straight (but reddening face) said, "oh they have a few days and I think they will read through the night like they did with the HC bill'.

laughter erupted from the press corp.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at December 16, 2010 09:37 AM (iwm1/)

90 I still don't understand the reasoning that we can't get a better deal in 2011.
You mean, we gotta do something 'cause the Dems will blame bad stuff on team
GOP? You mean like they will no matter what? So, what exactly are we "winning" here by giving them a deal where they get to claim credit for anything?

How's about we present a damn good, solid conservative bill next year, once a week and each Sunday go on the talk shows and say whatever it takes to make remind everyone that the Dems refuse to cut your taxes? Who gives a shit about the "We had a deal and you broke the deal an' that's why taxes went up" shit they are going to say? Yeah, that'll go over real well with Joe Blow after the Dems reject the 15th tax cut bill offered by the GOP House.

Posted by: jimmuy at December 16, 2010 09:37 AM (ICUQ9)

91 Have it read in each language govt forms need to be printed in.

Oh, snap.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at December 16, 2010 09:37 AM (4ucxv)

92 Would that the Republicans had the stones to just say fuck it. 

Let HR 1 in the new Congress make the current rates permanent.

Posted by: toby928™ at December 16, 2010 09:37 AM (S5YRY)

93 82

and pimp-smacked her, too. Gotta keep that pimp hand strong.

 

I can't believe how pissed Richard Gere got about that...something must have crawled up his ass and died that day.

Posted by: Jason Alexander at December 16, 2010 01:34 PM (z8dhf)

GUILTY!

Posted by: Ghost of Gerbil's Past at December 16, 2010 09:37 AM (LdYLm)

94 Since when do spending bills originate in the Senate? Somebody put me in some effin' knowledge here...

Posted by: navybrat at December 16, 2010 09:38 AM (zBUlJ)

95

One thing I was never sure of watching that movie cause no-one ever came right out and said it, but she was a hooker, right?

They cleaned up the screen play for Audrey for a couple of reasons and that was one of them.  So in the book the character was a hooker but in the movie she was really more of a gold digger.

Posted by: Roadking at December 16, 2010 09:38 AM (3XzWF)

96 I don't get it, the tax bill which has more support is in trouble but the DADT bill just sails right on through? WTF?

Posted by: The guy who says WTF a lot at December 16, 2010 09:38 AM (n4P+/)

97 I say let everything die until next year. Let the tax rates go up, the government shut down. The whole motherfucker. Everybody will realize the democrats have been completely irresponsible. They're the ones who didn't pass a budget in a reasonable time, nor extend the tax cuts. The Republicans will then enjoy a huge advantage to dictate terms.

Posted by: Dr. Heinz Doofensmirtz at December 16, 2010 09:39 AM (1Zk5q)

98

laughter erupted from the press corp.

derision  (dɪˈrɪʒən)   — n 1. the act of deriding; mockery; scorn 2. an object of mockery or scorn   [C15: from Late Latin dçrîsiô,  from Latin dçrîsus;  see deride ]

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at December 16, 2010 09:39 AM (B+qrE)

99 Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at December 16, 2010 01:28 PM (EPuYQ)

Yeah, well, it hurts when your heroes disappoint you.

I try to avoid this simply by not having any heroes...

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at December 16, 2010 09:40 AM (8y9MW)

100 i don't care how this fails, as long as it fails....  what a load of shit and it's obvious that the Beltway RINO's learned nothing from the last two elections.

QUIT SPENDING MONEY YOU FUCKING IDIOTS!

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 16, 2010 09:40 AM (d1FhN)

101 All and all a good day on the farm...Orwellian joy!

Posted by: ford the IINO. Independent in name only at December 16, 2010 09:40 AM (Ki7fm)

102 89 God I hated that damn film. Phoney people, phoney story. "Kookiness".  Rent Boy befriends hooker, hilarity ensues. Touching moments. Gag.

Posted by: SurferDoc at December 16, 2010 01:36 PM (o3bYL)

Yep, the real story would be:

1. Spends on night

2. Gere character winds up with some virulent version of a STD and dies writhing in pain

3. Roberts character winds up chopped into pieces and stuffed in a barrel by some psycho

3. Alexanders' character takes over the company

Anyhoo, Merry Xmas!

Posted by: Radioactive Satellite Of LOVE at December 16, 2010 09:41 AM (LdYLm)

103

They're the ones who didn't pass a budget in a reasonable time

The most overlooked point of this entire clown parade.  Both houses of Congress and the Presidency and they couldn't pass a budget.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at December 16, 2010 09:41 AM (B+qrE)

104 Politico says NPR in trouble with new Republican mandate.

Posted by: Quilly Mammoth at December 16, 2010 09:41 AM (8Q57F)

105 100 Yeah, well, it hurts when your heroes disappoint you.

I try to avoid this simply by not having any heroes...

Well, even the most stalwart conservatives have made some horrible mistakes in the past. But, given that DC is a cesspool, it's not completely surprising. It actually sometimes surprises me that some of them are as honest as they are.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at December 16, 2010 09:43 AM (EPuYQ)

106 Wow they just said on Fox that Blake Edwards was married to Julie Andrews. I didn't know that.

I wonder if he ever asked her to wear the Mary Poppins outfit...

Posted by: Alex at December 16, 2010 09:43 AM (yY28H)

107 Congress needs to have the fear of God put into it. Shut that nest of fucking vipers down.

Some sucker of cock on FOX just cried about social security and unemployment checks not being sent out because the government is shut down. BOO FUCKING HOO. Get the fuck off of unemployment, it ain't supposed to be a fucking income for life. And if you were STUPID enough to count on SS for your retirement, that's YOUR fucking problem, not mine.

Time to shut the teat down.

Posted by: Unclefacts, Confuse A Cat, Ltd. at December 16, 2010 09:43 AM (eCAn3)

108

by: Radioactive Satellite Of LOVE at December 16, 2010 01:41 PM (LdYLm)

Are you boys building an Interroceter in there!?

Posted by: Woman's Voice at December 16, 2010 09:44 AM (z8dhf)

109 Politico says NPR in trouble with new Republican mandate.

Open Society  promotes  "vibrant and tolerant democracies whose governments are accountable to their citizens.”

What leftist tripe. Utter gobblygook.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at December 16, 2010 09:45 AM (iwm1/)

110 Sorta O/T - the Army has decided I don't need to read Michelle Malkin's site while I'm at work. I get this message when I try:

Access Denied (policy_denied)You have been denied access to "http://michellemalkin.com/" because of the local policy restricting access to the Political/Activist Groups;News/Media categories.

Every other site I have bookmarked still works though.

Posted by: Bomber at December 16, 2010 09:45 AM (qzoN5)

111 107 Wow they just said on Fox that Blake Edwards was married to Julie Andrews. I didn't know that.

I wonder if he ever asked her to wear the Mary Poppins outfit...

Posted by: Alex at December 16, 2010 01:43 PM (yY28H)

Guess no one remembers the movie S.O.B. with the big reveal of Julie Andrews ta-tas at the end?

Posted by: Radioactive Satellite Of LOVE at December 16, 2010 09:45 AM (LdYLm)

112 I OUTTA TAKE A FLAME THROWER TO THIS PLACE!!!!

Posted by: Mr. Pacino Goes to Washington at December 16, 2010 09:45 AM (3XzWF)

113 That still wasn't enough to keep him off a bunch of RINO lists yesterday, is what I saw on some other conservative blogs. They want him primaried.

Some people are either ignorant or bug fk crazy.

Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2010 09:45 AM (e4sSD)

114 This bill goes down with the pile of moonbats sent packing..Obie at the big house crying in his arugula, Michelle cracking open another poor lobster, oh the irony!! All the blame squarely on the Ds.. .but they will cave politicians always cave, right?

Posted by: ford the IINO. Independent in name only at December 16, 2010 09:46 AM (Ki7fm)

115 I am proud of President Obama for delaying his vacation to pass these bills to help the country and to fix the problems left behind by that bastard Georgr Bush!

Posted by: mary clogginstien from Brattleboro at December 16, 2010 09:46 AM (SZy+Y)

116 House Democratic leaders hit a speed bump en route to passing President Barack Obama's tax deal Thursday amid rekindled liberal fury over giving breaks to the wealthiest Americans.

Progressives were miffed that they would be forced to vote for the Senate passed bill - the underlying legislation - if they wanted to vote for the estate tax alteration.

It forced Democrats to pull the rule vote and move to restructure debate, Rep. Jim McGovern (D-Mass.), a member of the Rules committee, said he expected the bill to proceed Thursday.

"We're just figuring out a way to get a rule on the floor that will pass and I'm confident we will," Rep. Rob Andrews (D-N.J.) said.

Andrews and Rep. Barney Frank (D-Mass) also predicted the bill would pass later Thursday without changes.

Republicans are planning to vote against the rule, forcing Democrats to carry it alone.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at December 16, 2010 09:46 AM (EPuYQ)

117

I wonder if he ever asked her to wear the Mary Poppins outfit...

That's an odd fettish! Paging Dr. Freud.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at December 16, 2010 09:46 AM (iwm1/)

118 "vibrant and tolerant democracies whose governments are accountable to their citizens.”

I'd bet that "accountable to citizens" part was left over from the last administration.

Posted by: Bomber at December 16, 2010 09:47 AM (qzoN5)

119 Posted by: Bomber


That's fucked up.

Posted by: Lincolntf at December 16, 2010 09:47 AM (MiG8u)

120 Blake has been married to Mary Poppins for at least 25 years.. she still looks good.

Posted by: ford the IINO. Independent in name only at December 16, 2010 09:47 AM (Ki7fm)

121

Posted by: mary clogginstien from Brattleboro

KAYINMAINE'S retardo doppleganger??

Posted by: laceyunderalls at December 16, 2010 09:47 AM (iwm1/)

122

Open Society  promotes  "vibrant and tolerant democracies whose governments are accountable to their citizens.”

Via the money of a currency-raiding vampire who has never contributed one productive scintilla of squat to any economy anywhere.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at December 16, 2010 09:48 AM (B+qrE)

123

That's an odd fettish!

Nah - Everyone wants to fuck the Aupair.

Posted by: garrett at December 16, 2010 09:48 AM (z8dhf)

124 Megyn babe just come out with a good saying about the pork bill

"the legislative equivalent of a finger to the American public"

But she is still harping on BS for the tax "deal" calling it

"Obama's Tax Deal falling apart"

I've got news for you babe; that deal lasted less than a day before the Senate destroyed it. It is no longer Obama's deal.

Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2010 09:49 AM (e4sSD)

125 I wonder if he ever asked her to wear the Mary Poppins outfit...

Posted by: Alex at December 16, 2010 01:43 PM (yY28H)


Probably but he did get her to go topless in a film. Supposedly she's a freak privately and secretly resented the whole nice girl image but not all the cash of course. The reason Anne Hathaway talks sex all the time and appears naked in every film is due to Julie's advice. The entire career of being adored by the public and rich must of been so awful for Julie.

Posted by: Rocks at December 16, 2010 09:50 AM (Q1lie)

126

The reason Anne Hathaway talks sex all the time and appears naked in every film is due to Julie's advice.

You say that like it's a bad thing.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at December 16, 2010 09:51 AM (B+qrE)

127

Nah - Everyone wants to fuck the Aupair.

Even when they have the Dorothy Hamill bowl-cut hair-do?? Huh. Diff't strokes >>> diff't folks.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at December 16, 2010 09:51 AM (iwm1/)

128 who thinks Nancy may have boxed herself in with the procedure she used to bring the bill to the floor.

Boxed herself? You mean  boxed the liberals in. Pelosi will vote for the bill regardless of what's in it.

Posted by: Rocks at December 16, 2010 09:52 AM (Q1lie)

129

That's an odd fettish! Paging Dr. Freud.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at December 16, 2010 01:46 PM (iwm1/)

A woman as neatly and conservatively dressed as her, you know that there is a serious freak just waiting for the chance to come out and play...

"Just a spoonful of KY helps the dildo go in..."

Posted by: Alex at December 16, 2010 09:52 AM (yY28H)

130 Do you think Obie has turned up the heat in the White House and started wearing shorts to work yet?? Do you think the flower necklaces are too much to wear around the press corp, or should they be made to wear them too??? The putting green installed on the Oval Office, since gold has to wait.. I mean how long til Obowma can go to Hawaii?? The insensitive, meany Republicans are hating on this NEEDED Vacation!!! You might think this was a big Fu**ing deal!!

Posted by: ford the IINO. Independent in name only at December 16, 2010 09:52 AM (Ki7fm)

131 they present the budget they had ginned up along without any of the deficit commission's recommendations.

I thought that commission didn't make any actual recommendations, since they couldn't get enough votes.

Posted by: Bomber at December 16, 2010 09:52 AM (qzoN5)

132 Fuck 'em. Shut down the government and wait for the next Congress. Posted by: CDR M at December 16, 2010 01:50 PM (5I8G0) Hallelujah Brother. Preach it! And the truth shall set you free!

Posted by: nevergiveup at December 16, 2010 09:52 AM (0GFWk)

133 118 I am proud of President Obama for delaying his vacation to pass these bills to help the country and to fix the problems left behind by that bastard Georgr Bush!

Posted by: mary clogginstien from Brattleboro at December 16, 2010 01:46 PM (SZy+Y)


But mary, you mouth breathing fucktard, your beloved Toonces is extending the tax cuts put in place by President Bush. are you naturally this stupid, or do you have to work at it?

Posted by: Unclefacts, Confuse A Cat, Ltd. at December 16, 2010 09:52 AM (eCAn3)

134

It's just time filler at this point.

It takes time to draft and disseminate the talking points for the media to follow.  I wish I was saying that facetiously, but I am afraid that is exactly what is going on.

Posted by: sherlock at December 16, 2010 09:53 AM (G9/8V)

135

due to Julie's advice.

Do you have Julie's address so we can send her a thank you note?

Posted by: garrett at December 16, 2010 09:53 AM (z8dhf)

136

Even when they have the Dorothy Hamill bowl-cut hair-do?? Huh. Diff't strokes >>> diff't folks.

HEY!!!

No jokes about Dorothy.  Man did I have the crush on her back in the day.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at December 16, 2010 09:53 AM (B+qrE)

137 As for that movie, yeah, I thought it weird that you would have a hooker who would take it up the backside but wouldn't kiss you.  I guess that's kinda like what congress does to the taxpayer.

Now "10" was a good movie.  At least that's what my formerly 15 year old boy memory tells me.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at December 16, 2010 09:53 AM (xQAv5)

138 The Lousie Brooks Bob bowlcut is way hotter.

Posted by: SurferDoc at December 16, 2010 09:53 AM (o3bYL)

139 Bomber, Give http://www.hidemyass.com a try. I use that when the fuckfaces here at work here try to keep me from visiting my favorite pr0n sites.

Posted by: Mission Figz at December 16, 2010 09:54 AM (n4P+/)

140 Meanwhile, Allen West is fighting with Eric Cantor over the number of days the House will convene in January. Cantor has scheduled 10; West wants more. 

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at December 16, 2010 09:54 AM (EPuYQ)

141 95 navy, they take a little revenue bill that has passed the House, amend it in its entirety, and viola Senate authored revenue bill passed! See how easy it is to get around that old Constitution.

Posted by: Financejoe at December 16, 2010 09:55 AM (wpVYW)

142

Huh. Diff't strokes >>> diff't folks.

I got fired for having sex in my office with the cleaning woman.

 

Posted by: George Costanza at December 16, 2010 09:56 AM (z8dhf)

143

To Unclefacts, Confuse A Cat, Ltd,

  President Obama is trying to work with the Republi-Idoits and reaching out for there support. This will be good for the economy and it is predicted that the economy will grow by 0.75% because of this. Bush destroyed a great economy passed on to him from President Clanton !!!

 

Posted by: mary clogginstien from Brattleboro at December 16, 2010 09:56 AM (SZy+Y)

144 You know, I don't recall the Republicans fucking up everything in december 2006. The Democrats own this shit pile they created.

Posted by: Dr. Heinz Doofensmirtz at December 16, 2010 09:56 AM (1Zk5q)

145 The site "hidemyass.com" is considered to be in the category/categories of "Proxy Avoidance".

And that's not local policy.

Posted by: Bomber at December 16, 2010 09:56 AM (qzoN5)

146

You say that like it's a bad thing.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at December 16, 2010 01:51 PM (B+qrE)


For her career, I would say so. She was on track to be considered a serious actor and is now pretty much plays dippy broad roles.

Posted by: Rocks at December 16, 2010 09:56 AM (Q1lie)

147

It takes time to draft and disseminate the talking points for the media to follow.

Ding!  Ding!  Ding!

We will get the Hillspeak equivalent of that ridiculous Holder/Sebelius op-ed from the weekend, which will blow out irony meters everywhere since the latter used the term "personal responsibility" so prominently.

A hundred years from now, the historians will characterize this as the The Age of TEH CRAZEEEE.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at December 16, 2010 09:57 AM (B+qrE)

148

  President Obama is trying to work with the Republi-Idoits and reaching out for there support. This will be good for the economy and it is predicted that the economy will grow by 0.75% because of this. Bush destroyed a great economy passed on to him from President Clanton !!!

 

Posted by: mary clogginstien from Brattleboro at December 16, 2010 01:56 PM (SZy+Y)


yeah, gonna have to go with naturally stupid.

Posted by: Unclefacts, Confuse A Cat, Ltd. at December 16, 2010 09:59 AM (eCAn3)

149 Bomber, Looks like your IT has one more active brain cell than mine does. usually if things get really critically I surf via my MacBook tethered to my cell phone. Anything to avoid work you see. And in case anyone is wondering, I work for liberals, so I work very hard at being as noncompliant and incompetent as I can be. Anything for the cause!

Posted by: Mission Figz at December 16, 2010 10:00 AM (n4P+/)

150 I smell trollshit.

Posted by: SurferDoc at December 16, 2010 10:01 AM (o3bYL)

151 I am not stupid! I graduated from Regis college with a degree in animal psycology.

Posted by: mary clogginstien from Brattleboro at December 16, 2010 10:02 AM (SZy+Y)

152

Bush tax cuts wicked and EVILE until two weeks ago.

And now (drumroll):

This will be good for the economy and it is predicted that the economy will grow by 0.75% because of this. Bush destroyed a great economy passed on to him from President Clanton !!!

Now Obama wants to continue policies that Bush put in place....that destroyed the Clinton economy (cough...bubble...cough...low oil prices).

Uh, Mary, you're going to have to work out the whole logically incoherent mess you've got there.

And a meth-amped chimp with an entoruage of rabid meerkats could get 3/4% growth out of this or any other economy...BY JUST LEAVING IT ALONE.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at December 16, 2010 10:03 AM (B+qrE)

153 So the libs wanted the tax deal pulled after an attempt to deem-and-pass the bill using the estate tax.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at December 16, 2010 10:04 AM (EPuYQ)

154

In sadder news so did Baseball Hall of Famer and Navy War Hero Bob Feller

Had not heard that. Who will be the third??

Posted by: laceyunderalls at December 16, 2010 01:26 PM (iwm1/)

 

 Who is on first

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 16, 2010 10:05 AM (1Jaio)

155 I am not stupid! I graduated from Regis college with a degree in animal psycology. When can I come see you for a session?

Posted by: The Chicken at December 16, 2010 10:05 AM (n4P+/)

156 154 I smell trollshit. Posted by: SurferDoc at December 16, 2010 02:01 PM (o3bYL) It's a sock. Nobody's that stupid. (Right?)

Posted by: joncelli© at December 16, 2010 10:06 AM (RD7QR)

157
 Funny, the only times Obama and company get any traction is when they continue the "failed policies" of W.

  I love irony.

Posted by: irongrampa at December 16, 2010 10:09 AM (ud5dN)

158

It's a sock. Nobody's that stupid. (Right?)

Bing:  Waters, Maxine.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at December 16, 2010 10:09 AM (B+qrE)

159 I just had to turn Fox off because I couldn't take Megyn Kelly anymore.

Normally Megyn is pretty good. She is the last one of the actual news anchors who is not a raging liberal. Lately though she has been crossing over on some issues.

One supposes that the bosses are steering her in a more lefty direction.

Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2010 10:10 AM (e4sSD)

160

Yo Clogger-shit-for-brains,

  I would like a session on why I get excited when Michelle Obama walks by and shakes a 2 Ton ASS. SHE'S GOT back !!! 

 

Posted by: Wally the Gay Hamster at December 16, 2010 10:12 AM (SZy+Y)

161 This whole entire tax bill is UNCONSTITUTIONAL. It originated in the Senate and not the house. Go look it up, I'll wait. Posted by: Unclefacts, Confuse A Cat, Ltd. at December 16, 2010 01:27 PM Yep. But as I have been repeatedly lectured by numerous commenters here, "this is the best deal we can get, so we must take it". Apparently, the Constitution is now no longer 'a hill to die on' for some fiscal conservatives.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 16, 2010 10:13 AM (NITzp)

162 160 Or...a joke-joke?

Posted by: SurferDoc at December 16, 2010 10:13 AM (o3bYL)

163 Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at December 16, 2010 02:03 PM (B+qrE)

Oh, I was assuming a sock for somebody.

I can't believe that anyone is that over-the-top dumb.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at December 16, 2010 10:13 AM (8y9MW)

164

"Even when they have the Dorothy Hamill bowl-cut hair-do??"

Hair? I don't care if they have a Fire Marshal Bill hairdo.

Posted by: gebrauchshund at December 16, 2010 10:15 AM (FLRN3)

165 I love the internet as much as the next guy...but when I start arguing with a sock troll I know it is time to step away from the keyboard and go make lunch.  After a few more posts.

Posted by: SurferDoc at December 16, 2010 10:16 AM (o3bYL)

166

Hey Wally,

  Give me a call, I am free tonight and my ass is as big as Michelle's !!!!!!

Posted by: Barney Frank at December 16, 2010 10:17 AM (SZy+Y)

167 Yeah, when Hathaway is naked I don't have to figure out why her face looks strangely distorted.

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at December 16, 2010 10:20 AM (YmPwQ)

168 this is the 237th anniversary of the Boston Tea Party.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

Posted by: Gwen Ifilll at December 16, 2010 10:21 AM (UvcJa)

169

I love the internet as much as the next guy...but when I start arguing with a sock troll I know it is time to step away from the keyboard and go make lunch

I am proud of my sock troll argument record.

Along with my tpiyng skills.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at December 16, 2010 10:22 AM (B+qrE)

170 Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 16, 2010 02:13 PM (NITzp)

Remember that the "deal" wasn't legislation at all.  When the deal was announced, I supported it (I still do in its original form).  I still don't think that it should pass via unconstitutional means.

Those are two different subjects.

I imagine the "thinking" went something like this:  Until Jan 6, House Republicans are virtually non-existent.  They can yell and scream, but it won't make any difference if the Democrats are on board.  So the Republicans who the Dems needed to get on board were the Senate Republicans who (because no budget had been passed) could filibuster the deal and not have to worry about it passing through reconciliation.

So President BOHICA negotiates with Senate Republicans to get the "framework" for the deal.  No legislation comes out of that, but an idea of what will be in the bill.

Now, the Senate Republicans were dumb for thinking that President BOHICA actually had the backing of his own caucus, and we (that is, the people who support the deal) were probably dumb for thinking they would have thought of that.  But they apparently assumed that he had most of his caucus behind him and that some minor negotiation was all that was left to get this through both the House and the Senate.

Had that been correct, the House would have taken it up virtually immediately and passed it- all passing constitutional muster.

It wasn't- Senate Republicans got bamboozled, and are so used to the "Constitution, what Constitution?" status quo, that they didn't even stop to think when the Senate took up the legislation without it having been passed to them from the House.

Which does not excuse the extra-constitutionality of the process and, therefore, the bill, but may help explain it.

I sincerely hope that the Republican Senators did not set out to write a blatantly unconstitutional bill.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at December 16, 2010 10:24 AM (8y9MW)

171

Apparently, the Constitution is now no longer 'a hill to die on' for some fiscal conservatives.

Keep on talkling about this "Constitution". The optics are terrible. We'll never win another election. Let Obama win, we'll try again next year.

Posted by: Another Stupid Typical Fucking Rino at December 16, 2010 10:24 AM (YmPwQ)

172 From The Corner:

UPDATE II: The House Rules Committee is meeting to construct a new rule that will allow liberals to offer more amendments to register their displeasure. But the actual passage of such amendments, as opposed to their symbolic consideration, would be a huge problem, as the Senate would almost certainly reject any changes.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at December 16, 2010 10:28 AM (EPuYQ)

173 But the actual passage of such amendments, as opposed to their symbolic consideration, would be a huge problem, as the Senate would almost certainly reject any changes.

It almost makes me wish the Republicans in the House would vote en masse to approve one or two amendments, just to throw the whole thing back to the Senate.

Posted by: Alex at December 16, 2010 10:30 AM (yY28H)

174 Over the years it became more and more apparent how much Julie Andrews loved Julie Andrews.

Posted by: SurferDoc at December 16, 2010 10:30 AM (o3bYL)

175 I am not stupid! I graduated from Regis college with a degree in animal psycology.

When can I come see you for a session?

 Posted by: The Chicken

Dude, get in line behind me, I'm the one who was forced to do the real nasty stuff.

Posted by: Toby the Beagle at December 16, 2010 10:33 AM (oREHE)

176 The House Rules Committee is meeting to construct a new rule

All this talk about rules. We make 'em up as we go along.

Posted by: Alcee Hastings, Rules Committee at December 16, 2010 10:38 AM (UvcJa)

177 So a Congressman that was soundly defeated for re-election, Pomeroy, is trying to push for higher tax rates for estates. Shouldn't one of the Republicans have told him to STFU and vote for the bill? I mean the voters of your state spoke, so clean Obama's jism out of your ears and finally do what they say.

Posted by: MrCaniac at December 16, 2010 10:38 AM (oREHE)

178 This is like hitting a full house on the river; your opponents might have a higher full house ( or quads ), but you very likely have the best hand

So you can raise them, and watch them squirm, and REVEL IN THEIR PAIN

Posted by: SantaRosaStan at December 16, 2010 10:41 AM (UqKQV)

179 Few of the House Rs would have voted for the bill via deem-and-pass on the estate tax, as most of them oppose it. If these libs are allowed to offer these amendments, how many Rs would still vote for the bill? Then they have the issue of the Senate. So, while it seems they'll find some way to put this all together, I'm not quite sure not they'll do it or if Nan has the votes for the compromise.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at December 16, 2010 10:45 AM (EPuYQ)

180 I sincerely hope that the Republican Senators did not set out to write a blatantly unconstitutional bill. Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at December 16, 2010 02:24 PM Thanks for the explanation, and I do understand it, but I'm still thoroughly annoyed by this whole flustercuck. As people have mentioned, this Congress had from JAN 2009 to OCT 2010 to pass a budget, repeal DADT, vote on extending the tax rate, etc. But they *chose* not to do so. They deliberately chose to wait until after the NOV 2010 elections. And now are claiming that they have to hurry up and pass all this bullshit. Well, I call bullshit. Now, it may not be unconstitutional to pass a bunch of bullshit in a lame-*uck session, but it sure as hell should be. If I had my way, the only things passed in a lame-*uck session of Congress would be emergency bills (war declaration, natural disater legislation, etc). But the Democrat-led House and Senate *deliberately* did not pass a budget or tackle any of their constitutional responsibilities for the past 21 months. And now they are turning around and doing the SAME MF-ING BULLSHIT for which the American people voting their MF-ing asses out of power just last month. Do you really think that if this were DEC 2006 and the Democrats just won big, that they would sit by and allow the outgoing Republicans to do this shit? HELL FUCKING NO, they wouldn't. And neither would their base. Yet, here we are just going "oh well, just accept these deals, it's the best we can get and we're not going to get better next year blah blah blah". Why do we even bother to vote if this is what is the result? You want to know why Democrats GOTV efforts are better than Republicans? Because Democrats promise to fight for their ideas and policies and then go and DO IT once in office. Meanwhile, Republicans promise their base things and then bend over backwards to "compromise" with Democrats on every last fucking thing. The Democrats start out shooting for 100% of what they want and then "compromise" to 80%. The Republicans start out saying "well, we can only get 50% of what we want, so we'll start there" and then they end up settling for 25% of what they want in the end. And when people like me bitch about this, we're told "well, that's the best we can get, that's what is realistically possible, so accept it and stop complaining". Again, what was the point of getting so pudding-dippingly excited for the NOV 2010 elections if all that was gonna happen was we're going to accept that winning would get us nothing next year ("we can't expect to get a better deal next year") and so we better accept deals before that House and Senate are even seated?

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 16, 2010 10:52 AM (NITzp)

181 Over the years it became more and more apparent how much Julie Andrews loved Julie Andrews.

There were a lot of Julie Andrews movies that I just loved like Sound Of Music, but when the musical genre died out it seemed she lost out.

Her later movies sucked. Although I liked both her and James Garner I thought Victor/Victoria sucked.

So perhaps it wasn't her that soured on Julie, it was the industry that quit making movies that she was best at.

Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2010 10:57 AM (e4sSD)

182

The musical genre didn't die.

I killed it.

Posted by: bigred's favorite musical was "Easy Rider" at December 16, 2010 11:01 AM (cX9pO)

183

#191

You failed to mention that before you killed it, you took a massive dump on it and then drug it through the dirt.  Certainly hope you are proud of yourself.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at December 16, 2010 11:27 AM (6yyVB)

184 Posted by: bigred's favorite musical was "Easy Rider" at December 16, 2010 03:01 PM (cX9pO)

Yeah, I liked Easy Rider as well in 1969. I was a punk on a motorcycle then.

Now not so much. I have the DVD and play it though,....once in a while.

I just got Sound of Music on BluRay. I expect I will play it more.

Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2010 11:37 AM (e4sSD)

185 Actually, I never was a fan of musicals. Pisses my wife off, but they just don't turn me on. I always kid her about Easy Rider.

Posted by: bigred's favorite musical was at December 16, 2010 11:47 AM (cX9pO)

186 Vic, if I recall you and I are about a couple weeks apart in age. Sep.4,'50. I've mellowed in a few things, but musicals just ain't one.

Posted by: bigred at December 16, 2010 11:50 AM (cX9pO)

187 I like music in general. Its kind of funny. I have to wait for the wife to be gone because I like to crank it up on these big Infinity Studio monitors I use for the stereo/TV in the living room, especially when I've had a few shots of bourbon.

That pisses her off.

Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2010 11:52 AM (e4sSD)

188 More than a couple of weeks, Mar 9, 51.

Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2010 11:53 AM (e4sSD)

189

Vic, close enough. I do remember a moron who's birthday was late Aug. in 50, so there's a few of us codgers here.

I use headphones. Keeps the peace. On a couple levels, IYKWIM.  :-)

Posted by: bigred at December 16, 2010 11:57 AM (cX9pO)

190 I use headphones. Keeps the peace. On a couple levels, IYKWIM.  :-)

LOL, I tried that for a while. I blew out the headphones.

Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2010 11:58 AM (e4sSD)

191 Louder, I can't hear you. :-)

Posted by: bigred at December 16, 2010 12:00 PM (cX9pO)

192 You know, I still like the music on Easy Rider but the BS in the movie just turns me off big time now.

I was a hardcore red neck in 1969 but thought all the motorcycle shit was cool. When they showed the rednecks in LA shooting them I was so used to seeing that kind of shit about the "evil South" it didn't phase me. Oh, and the nudity to an 18 y.o. teenager wasn't bad either, especially when nudity in movies was rare.

Now the content of the movie is just crap to me. Even the young Nicholson doesn't help it. When I play the movie now I find myself just skipping through the movie just to hear the tunes with a video backdrop.

Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2010 12:08 PM (e4sSD)

193 Vic, I fast forward to the part where the rednecks shoot them!

Posted by: navybrat at December 16, 2010 12:12 PM (zBUlJ)

194 Pretty much me,too. The movie is dated, but I still love the music. Saw all the old biker movies, but watching them now you see how weak the plots and writing were. Watched TheWild Angels recently. A laugher now, but hey, Blues Theme still rocks.

Posted by: bigred at December 16, 2010 12:16 PM (cX9pO)

195 I can see we are pretty much in agreement there.

Vic, I fast forward to the part where the rednecks shoot them!

LOL, why watch it all then, that's the whole movie.

Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2010 12:19 PM (e4sSD)

196 Of course, there's always Nancy Sinatra in leather!

Posted by: bigred at December 16, 2010 12:22 PM (cX9pO)

197 Of course, there's always Nancy Sinatra in leather!

Posted by: bigred at December 16, 2010 04:22 PM (cX9pO)

Yeah, I liked her way back. She had two hits I believe and then sort of disappeared. One wonders what she is doing now.

Probably enjoying daddy's millions.

Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2010 12:27 PM (e4sSD)

198 She did a nude shoot a while ago. She's still got it, after all these years.

Posted by: bigred at December 16, 2010 12:34 PM (cX9pO)

199 She did a nude shoot a while ago. She's still got it, after all these years.

Posted by: bigred at December 16, 2010 04:34 PM (cX9pO)

What no link?

Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2010 12:36 PM (e4sSD)

200 Sorry, I just know she did it. Saw it in some mag. Forget which one. But trust me, she's got a few miles on her, but no rust. IYKWIM

Posted by: bigred at December 16, 2010 12:38 PM (cX9pO)

201 OK I found one site that has a single pic. It evidently comes from a 1995 Playboy shoot.

I was about to gin up a link then I remembered Ace doesn't like for us to link to NSFW nudes (and absolutely no porn links).

Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2010 12:42 PM (e4sSD)

202 Yeah she still looked god, but how much can you trust in those magazine shoots anymore.

Digital and airbrush altering now do wonders.

Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2010 12:43 PM (e4sSD)

203 that's good not god

Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2010 12:43 PM (e4sSD)

204 Yeah, that was it. Sure hate to get anyone in trouble here. :-)

Posted by: bigred at December 16, 2010 12:45 PM (cX9pO)

205 "S.O.B." was semi-fake, in that Julie took her top off but the Sacred Ta-Tas were upheld, as the judges say, by customized bra that kept them ......alert and resistant to gravity and reality

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207 Of course, we're still the epitome of manhood we were 40 years ago. Yeah, right.

Posted by: bigred at December 16, 2010 12:47 PM (cX9pO)

208 Of course, we're still the epitome of manhood we were 40 years ago. Yeah, right.

Posted by: bigred at December 16, 2010 04:47 PM (cX9pO)

Yeah, very little hair, a lot fewer teeth, and a lot more belly. I'm still in good shape.

Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2010 12:50 PM (e4sSD)

209 Same here. As the man said "famous long ago"

Posted by: bigred at December 16, 2010 12:52 PM (cX9pO)

210 "I can't believe how pissed Richard Gere got about that...something must have crawled up his ass and died that day."

It did. Here

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211 I refuse to click on a link about Richard Gere and gerbils. I am baby sitting tonight and can not do the 90 proof brain bleech.

Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2010 01:53 PM (e4sSD)

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