July 14, 2010

Bristol Palin, Ricky Hollywood, and Bill Murray
— Ace

And, they tell Us Weekly, former vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin has been kept in the dark about their plans Â… until now.

“We got engaged two weeks ago,” Bristol, 19, tells Us Weekly. “It felt right, even though we don’t have the approval of our parents.”…

“I really thought we were over,” Levi tells Us Weekly. “So when I went [to meet her about child custody], I had no hope. I think we both just started talking — and then we took Tripp for a walk.”

Says Bristol, “When he left that night, we didn’t hug or kiss, but I was thinking how different it was. He texted me: ‘I miss you. I love you. I want to be with you again’ … I was in shock.”

The good: A child should have his father, and a mother should have a husband. Anything that offers up a hope of that is a good thing.

The bad: This guy is a complete self-absorbed asshole and will likely leave her after three or four years.

The possibly good: But that's what guys are, often, especially at that age. The pregnancy was a shock to him, I'm sure, and he reacted cowardly and selfishly, but that is, again, how guys often act. It's not necessarily a predictor that someone can't grow up and accept responsibility.

Bill Murray has a good quote about this:

The truth is, anybody that becomes famous is an ass for a year and a half. You've got to give them a year and a half, two years. They are getting so much smoke blown, and their whole world gets so turned upside down, their responses become distorted. I give everybody a year or two to pull it together because, when it first happens, I know how it is.

I realize that "Ricky Hollywood" did not do anything but have irresponsible unprotected sex with a teenage girl and then jilt her rather than accepting his responsibilities as a man, and that is hardly a conventional way to become a "celebrity," but we are now in a culture where that kind of repulsive "fame" is the same as the well-earned kind.

And so, perhaps, he had his year and a half of being an asshole.

I hope so. Certainly it would be better for everyone involved for him to accept that "Ricky Hollywood" ain't happening and that being a deadbeat dad and liar-for-hire isn't really a career.

Posted by: Ace at 11:05 AM | Comments (154)
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1

Doesn't Bill Murray have a reputation of being an asshole?

Posted by: you make me want to smoke at July 14, 2010 11:07 AM (uFokq)

2
I mean like all the time? Like Daivd Letterman-type asshole?

Posted by: you make me want to smoke at July 14, 2010 11:07 AM (uFokq)

3 I'd say something profound here but I'm waiting for the duplicate post to come up later.

Posted by: Comrade Arthur at July 14, 2010 11:08 AM (4XtKa)

4 I bet the entire cast and crew of MSNBC is crying in their lunch time martinis.

Posted by: ErikW at July 14, 2010 11:08 AM (nVXSM)

5 Todd Palin needs a hunting buddy.  Levi better watch his ass.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 14, 2010 11:08 AM (UOM48)

6
btw, Bristol has the mental wherewithal of a 13-year old. All jokes and politics aside, this refelcts poorly on her parents.

Posted by: you make me want to smoke at July 14, 2010 11:09 AM (uFokq)

7 liar-for-hire isn't really a career.

Working out well for me.

Posted by: Robert Gibbs at July 14, 2010 11:09 AM (wOGfT)

8 The bad: This guy is a complete self-absorbed asshole and will likely leave her after three or four years.

I am afraid that you are right Ace. I have personally seen this shit before with my daughter. It will not take three or four years either.

My understanding is that he is yet to get a real damn job and neither has she.  I also understand that he sponged off of them before he left the first time.

He is a worthless shit and she is too young and stupid to realize it. I am sure mom and dad know but, in the end there is little they can do.

Posted by: Vic at July 14, 2010 11:09 AM (/jbAw)

9

The bad: This guy is a complete self-absorbed asshole and will likely leave her after three or four years months.

FIFme.

Posted by: conscious, but incoherent - placing my bet now at July 14, 2010 11:10 AM (YVZlY)

10 The possibly good: But that's what guys are, often, especially at that age. The pregnancy was a shock to him, I'm sure, and he reacted cowardly and selfishly, but that is, again, how guys often act. It's not necessarily a predictor that someone can't grow up and accept responsibility.

I try to think the best of people when I can. I hope he has grown up enough to see the man he wants to be, and realize that he has to stop being so self absorbed and shoulder some serious responsibility to become that man.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at July 14, 2010 11:11 AM (0q2P7)

11 He'll leave Bristol after her mother exits the White House. That is the only motivation I can see for his apologizing. Well aside from sacred honor and he might actually mean it. Time will tell.

Posted by: Rodney at July 14, 2010 11:11 AM (XRIh6)

12
1) I assume they're already having sex again
2) I'll bet my left nut she's already pregnant...again

Posted by: you make me want to smoke at July 14, 2010 11:11 AM (uFokq)

13 The cock wants what it wants.

Posted by: Wood Allen at July 14, 2010 11:11 AM (aOKEC)

14 Isn't his mom a meth-head or something?  I mean he comes from trash....

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 14, 2010 11:11 AM (UOM48)

15 The Palin family is always using their vaginas to silence their critics!

Posted by: Andrew Sullivan at July 14, 2010 11:12 AM (IhQuA)

16 Bristol has the mental wherewithal of a 13-year old. How did you arrive at this conclusion, Kreskin?

Posted by: fluffy at July 14, 2010 11:12 AM (4Kl5M)

17 Todd Palin needs a hunting buddy.  Levi better watch his ass.

Nothing says "You're welcome here anytime son" like high velocity rock salt.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at July 14, 2010 11:12 AM (0q2P7)

18 "It's a trap." 

What he did went well beyond the actions of a 'normal' guy who knocks up his girlfriend, even considering how powerful her mom is and how much attention the whole thing drew.  He's been under the influence of the worst bottom-feeders in Hollywood and the media.  I simply do not believe that this is a sincere reconciliation on his part. 

Sarah and Todd better keep there distance, financially and in every other respect.  Bristol has made her 'adult' choice, so now she has to live with it. 

Posted by: Y-not at July 14, 2010 11:12 AM (O627A)

19 NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!1!!!11!!!!1

Posted by: Andrew Sullivan at July 14, 2010 11:13 AM (X/Lqh)

20 Has Levi got a line on a real career yet or even a path to one?  If  not the kid will be better off without a lay around home dad.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at July 14, 2010 11:13 AM (tf9Ne)

21

Don't get between a Momma Grizzly and her Cub. 

 [unless you are boning her cub]

 

Posted by: garrett at July 14, 2010 11:13 AM (qzAe1)

22

To go from Ricky Hollywood, Playgirl Playfag, to loving father who wants responsibility in a year and a half is quite the leap.

Hope, for the kid's sake (Bristol and her baby's), that he's done this 180.

Posted by: gator at July 14, 2010 11:14 AM (aOKEC)

23
How did you arrive at this conclusion, Kreskin?

From this and all her past actions and statements: “When he left that night, we didn’t hug or kiss, but I was thinking how different it was. He texted me: ‘I miss you. I love you. I want to be with you again’ … I was in shock.”

Posted by: you make me want to smoke at July 14, 2010 11:14 AM (uFokq)

24

He's still looking after Levi first.

Posted by: rdbrewer at July 14, 2010 11:15 AM (0ONli)

25 Who's going to go out with Kathy Griffin now?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 14, 2010 11:16 AM (UOM48)

26 Bristol Palin's got some big Titt-ehs!

Posted by: Dave Chappel at July 14, 2010 11:16 AM (qzAe1)

27 I bet the little rat bastard is being paid to burrow into the Palin family like a tick to get dirt for the Democrats.

A few more "revelations" about the Palins fed to the Treason Times and the lib elites will throw this shit-stain a reality show and a fat pension from the slush fund.

Watch this asshole's bank account blossom and follow the money. This stinks like donkey shit.

Posted by: sifty at July 14, 2010 11:17 AM (BDP/V)

28 My understanding is that he is yet to get a real damn job and neither has she.

I think she does have a real job, just not a high-paying one.  I read a while back that she's got some sort of office job, I think, and she has like a three-bedroom condo... because Willow (or whoever is the next youngest girl) was spending a lot of time with her there (which seems like a really bad idea to me). 

I assume her parents have been helping her financially (just as I assume they paid for the last engagement ring).  That has got to stop.  When I got married right out of college my parents (and his) were shocked because we hadn't dated that long.  I remember my mom even asking me if I was getting married to avoid being alone.  Anyway, we got married and moved hundreds of miles away from both sets of parents, set up our apartments by ourselves, and struggled with everything by ourselves.  26 years later my marriage is much stronger than my sister's (who got married to a long-time b.f. the same day I did (double wedding) and lived very close to both sets of families). 

And, yeah, Bristol doesn't strike me as the brightest bulb in the box, but I don't think that reflects on her parents.  Kids turn out how they're going to turn out.

Posted by: Y-not at July 14, 2010 11:18 AM (O627A)

29  I love Bill Murray. He managed to stay sane in Liberal Bizarro World.

Posted by: sifty at July 14, 2010 11:18 AM (BDP/V)

30 I use to think Bill Murray was a good guy, but it turned out he wasn't. It's a bad idea to get back with that loser. At this time in his life, a roof and a family looks good to him. It won't last. Can you imagine the Palins having to be polite to his skanky sister and mother?

Posted by: moi at July 14, 2010 11:19 AM (bjYAr)

31 This is another double standard btw, every other politicians kids are allowed to screw up and often when it happens it gets down played. But not Sarah Palin, nope if she, or anything related to her is not 100% beyond human perfection its all on her. Both the Left and the Right are guilty of doing this to her as well. For similar motivations.

Posted by: Rodney at July 14, 2010 11:20 AM (XRIh6)

32

I need more money.  What's wrong with that?

Posted by: Levi at July 14, 2010 11:20 AM (0ONli)

33 His mother was thrown in jail a while back, wasn't she? 

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 14, 2010 11:21 AM (UOM48)

34 I wonder what the paranoid threat level over at Sullyland is now. I'm guessing the threat level is on red (gobsmacked by unspeakable vileness). At least until he figures out how he'll claim that this somehow proves that he was right all along.

Posted by: Sean P at July 14, 2010 11:21 AM (M3QBc)

35 Young Mr. Hollywood is precisely the kind of d-bag the ladies love—and say they hate. Because another lady got him first.

Learn from his fine (though exaggerated) example, not-gettin'-any dudes.

Posted by: oblig. at July 14, 2010 11:22 AM (x7Ao8)

36 She looks like her mom, but her girly parts are silky smooth and young and supple.

Get away from me Larry Marchant. For the last time. No, we cannot cross swords.

Posted by: Levi Johnson at July 14, 2010 11:22 AM (IhQuA)

37 "Certainly it would be better for everyone involved for him to accept that "Ricky Hollywood" ain't happening and that being a deadbeat dad and liar-for-hire isn't really a career."

Well he did have a fall-back position.  Marry her and become the family leech.

Posted by: GarandFan at July 14, 2010 11:22 AM (6mwMs)

38 Meh. Algore's son is the biggest spoiled lowlife fuckup ever but we'll never hear about his misadventures.

Posted by: Blackford Oakes at July 14, 2010 11:26 AM (w9BEi)

39 I dunno, man: I've known some great parents who had really shitty kids, and vice-versa. Some of it is parenting, but not all of it: at least half (maybe more) of a kid's development comes from peers and the media. That old cliche about how the preacher's kid was always wild got to be a cliche because it was so common. Bristol is an idiot, and she will have time to ponder her idiocy at leisure when Ricky Hollywood exits stage-left in a year or two. But she also has a famous mama who will make sure that any responsibility for her stupidity is moderated, so...I doubt if any lesson will be learned.

Posted by: Monty at July 14, 2010 11:28 AM (4Pleu)

40 It takes a village to ruin a child.

Posted by: Hillary at July 14, 2010 11:29 AM (w9BEi)

41 Kathy Griffin scared me straight. It's scary about there and Bristol is pretty hot.

Posted by: Levi Johnson at July 14, 2010 11:31 AM (IhQuA)

42

I don't know about Levi, but Kathy Griffin would definitely scare me back onto the straight and narrow.

Posted by: Fritz at July 14, 2010 11:31 AM (GwPRU)

43 As soon as the liberals admit they would still hate the Palins, even if the Palins traveled to Mars on an Obama unicorn and cured cancer, I'll listen to a little of  their bitching and whining. Admitting that smart good-looking women scare you is the first step, liberals!

It's kinda funny to listen to liberals spout off about family values. The party of pederasts, partial birth abortions, Polanski, Sullivan, Allen, Frank, Shabazz, and assorted deviants of all varieties is suddenly a source of family wisdom.

Remember, only liberals are allowed to have insane children!!!111!
-Martin Sheen


Posted by: sifty at July 14, 2010 11:32 AM (BDP/V)

44
I'm a father of three daughters.   The guy is as shallow as an oil slick on I-95 in the Bronx during rush hour on a rainy day.


  

Posted by: fapo at July 14, 2010 11:32 AM (3bo9E)

45 I don't know how Bristol can forgive him for all the nasty lies he made up about her mother. But I guess it's possible, he really is repentant, and she really does love him. All we can do is hope for the best.

Posted by: Nice Deb at July 14, 2010 11:32 AM (zcYjl)

46

I worry that those of you who are cynical enough to think he is being planted back into the family by some really wealthy people looking to dish more Palin dirt are right. And that's just sad.

My hope is that they both grow the hell up and work it out for the sake of their (absolutely adorable) son. And that he keeps his crazy meth head mom and bitch from hell sister away from Bristol, his child and the entire Palin family.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at July 14, 2010 11:34 AM (RZ8pf)

47 Wow. He'll have just enough time to spend a year in the Palin family and then have a ghost-writer put out a tell-all book... just before the 2012 election.

Coincidence, I'm sure.

Posted by: sifty at July 14, 2010 11:35 AM (BDP/V)

48 I hope I am wrong. Really really do.

I find myself saying that a lot since 2008.

Posted by: sifty at July 14, 2010 11:36 AM (BDP/V)

49 There are lots of places to bury a body in Alaska.

Just saying.

Posted by: EC at July 14, 2010 11:37 AM (mAhn3)

50 I don't know how Bristol can forgive him for all the nasty lies he made up about her mother. Because she's apparently a fucking idiot. I'll bet you twenty bucks that Bristol also laments not being able to find any "nice guys" out there, and wonders why more fine gentlement aren't abroad in the world. Then she takes up with the biggest cheese-dick on the planet. The problem isn't a lack of good men in the world, sweetheart. The problem is that you're attracted to shit-heads. When (not if, when) Ricky Hollywood takes off, she will take up with another jerkoff who's just as bad. Mark my words.

Posted by: Monty at July 14, 2010 11:37 AM (4Pleu)

51 [unless you are boning her cub]




Excuse me. Bear fucker, do you need assistance?

Posted by: MFM at July 14, 2010 11:38 AM (mHQ7T)

52

btw, Bristol has the mental wherewithal of a 13-year old. All jokes and politics aside, this refelcts poorly on her parents.

Ah, yes, another "I have no kids but think I know what the hell I'm talking about" opinion.  Thanks.  Boy, that's helpful stuff.

When you have a 19 year old of your own and the first damn clue what your talking about, call me.  Until then try talking out of the other side of your ass for a while, I think the side you've been using is probably exhausted by now.

Posted by: Stuck On Stupid at July 14, 2010 11:40 AM (e8T35)

53 Spot on Monty.

Posted by: sifty at July 14, 2010 11:41 AM (BDP/V)

54 55 Meanwhile, Joe Biden's daughter is doing lines of cocaine

She was inspired by Dreams of my Father. 

Posted by: Y-not at July 14, 2010 11:41 AM (O627A)

55 STFU pinhead. We don't do smears like that in the No Spin Zone. Next up, the Great American Culture Quiz. Tonight's theme: LADY GAGA. Who's lookin' out for you, baby?

Posted by: Bill O'RLY at July 14, 2010 11:43 AM (w9BEi)

56 I hope Sarah Palin keeps her distance and lets Bristol find out for herself that being a young, married mother without an education or a job is even harder than being a well-paid single mother with a lecturing gig. If Bristol and Levi are going to make it, they need to start being responsible for themselves.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at July 14, 2010 11:44 AM (mHQ7T)

57

Then she takes up with the biggest cheese-dick on the planet. The problem isn't a lack of good men in the world, sweetheart. The problem is that you're attracted to shit-heads.

It's a pretty common problem in girls that age.  You see, shit heads are "misunderstood" and she will "be able to fix him".  Makes her feel needed, important.  Like she's the only one that understands him.  That makes their relationship "special".  In short, yes, it's retarded.

Same problem I have with my own 20 something daughter.  My other 20 something has her head on pretty straight, she avoids retards like this like the plague.  But my oldest?  She's always been the one to "bring home the wounded bird" sort. 

She just never has quite gotten used to the idea that some birds aren't really wounded, their just worthless.  Hard lesson to learn, and sadly only one that real life experience can teach in most cases.

 

Posted by: Stuck On Stupid at July 14, 2010 11:44 AM (e8T35)

58 I hope they make it. Most parents do the best they can. I'm sure the Palins are no different. Kids are stupid, but many manage to survive and thrive thru their screwups. They need to quit granting interviews to rags like "Us". Guess the money is good. I just hope she doesn't get pregs again.

Posted by: kevlarchick at July 14, 2010 11:44 AM (TNuqz)

59 John Edwards, Bill Clinton, and Al Gore think that the sanctity of marriage is nothing to trifle with.


Posted by: sifty at July 14, 2010 11:44 AM (BDP/V)

60 Wow. He'll have just enough time to spend a year in the Palin family and then have a ghost-writer put out a tell-all book... just before the 2012 election.

Coincidence, I'm sure.

You actually think he's smart and smooth enough to pull that off? I think you're giving him a whole lot of credit. If he had that kind of acting ability, he'd really be living the Ricky Hollywood life, down in actual Hollywood.

I don't think he'll have that much access to the Palin household. If he starts whining about Sarah giving him the cold shoulder in about 2-3 months, I'll revisit my theory. But for now, I think he really did just want to come home with his girlfriend. In any case, both of them have a lot of growing up to do, and I hope that mom and dad really let the reality sink in, and hard.

Posted by: Jay in Ames at July 14, 2010 11:47 AM (UEEex)

61 Per the Harper's Bazaar article a while back, Bristol is a medical assistant in a dermatologist's office. 

Posted by: Y-not at July 14, 2010 11:49 AM (O627A)

62 Todd Palin: Levi, I have spent the months since you took off digging several holes in various out-of-the-way places within driving distance of your home. If you do any further damage of any kind to my daughter, my grandchild, or anyone else in this family, you will be placed in these holes. Yes, I said holes. Plural. And the bears will finish what the mop won't get up.

I expect you'll want to update your resume and begin your job search tomorrow morning. Early.




Posted by: sifty at July 14, 2010 11:51 AM (BDP/V)

63

Who's going to go out with Kathy Griffin now?

oooh - I will!

Posted by: Roseanne Barrnold at July 14, 2010 12:00 PM (+FkcS)

64

He's such a complete loser.  Its sad that she's doing this.

Wait till he meets the Palins' new summer neighbor.  It will be over before it begins.

Posted by: Annabelle at July 14, 2010 12:04 PM (KuSkz)

65 I just KNOW you're going to post Palin's most presidential-sounding rebuttal of the NAACP any moment now, right?


Here's the link to make it easier:


http://tinyurl.com/2ab7yjg

Posted by: hrh at July 14, 2010 12:08 PM (wKcfz)

66 I've seen smart, well off people twice Bristol's age do dumber shit in relationships. Repeatedly.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at July 14, 2010 12:09 PM (P33XN)

67 My sacred honor compels me to admit that I had an inappropriate relationship with Levi Johnson.

Posted by: Will Folks at July 14, 2010 12:09 PM (4XzsU)

68 being a deadbeat dad and liar-for-hire isn't really a career.
I disagree, Ace.

Posted by: john edwards at July 14, 2010 12:11 PM (7b1Uc)

69 I expect you'll want to update your resume and begin your job search tomorrow morning.

Did he ever get his GED?

Posted by: The Cult at July 14, 2010 12:18 PM (M9BNu)

70 His fifteen minutes were up and the Press stopped paying attention...

...of course he went crawling back to her.

To those who think she's an idiot for taking him back, it's not really that at all...She just has no self-esteem.

Posted by: g at July 14, 2010 12:19 PM (foYyr)

71 53 I don't know how Bristol can forgive him for all the nasty lies he made up about her mother.

Because she's apparently a fucking idiot. I'll bet you twenty bucks that Bristol also laments not being able to find any "nice guys" out there, and wonders why more fine gentlement aren't abroad in the world. Then she takes up with the biggest cheese-dick on the planet. The problem isn't a lack of good men in the world, sweetheart. The problem is that you're attracted to shit-heads.

When (not if, when) Ricky Hollywood takes off, she will take up with another jerkoff who's just as bad. Mark my words.

Ditto.  I've seen this often enough to see the train wreck coming a long way off, and yes Bristol appears to be the type that will pick the douchebag time and time again while ignoring the nice guys. The unfortunate part is it will continue to be a great source of successful smearing from the left making Palin less and less likely to be a viable candidate.

Jindal / Christie anyone?

Posted by: Festive Protrudence at July 14, 2010 12:26 PM (xm1A1)

72 Tough to think about, but taking this douche-bag back could also be a great way for a pissed-off daughter to give a big "fuck you!" to her parents.

Kids do some twisted shit to get digs in on their parents sometimes. Teenage rebellion isn't all tattoos and pink hair. And it is seldom thought out well.

Family business is always the nastiest business. Which is why it always used to be private.

Posted by: sifty at July 14, 2010 12:27 PM (BDP/V)

73

I've seen smart, well off people twice Bristol's age do dumber shit in relationships. Repeatedly.

Oh yeah  --  she doesn't exactly have the market cornered on this.

This guy's a scorpion and he's going to do what scorpions do.

Posted by: eleven at July 14, 2010 12:27 PM (7DB+a)

74 Did he ever get his GED?

Wait, are we talking about Obama?

Posted by: AmishDude at July 14, 2010 12:28 PM (T0NGe)

75 Sarah Palin should have Bristol get her own house. this guy is no good and he is only setting them up to get inside access so the he can damage them some more and white a book to make money.

Posted by: JRs at July 14, 2010 12:29 PM (IMe59)

76 Sarah Palin should have Bristol get her own house. this guy is no good and he is only setting them up to get inside access so that he can damage them some more and white a book to make money.

Posted by: JRs at July 14, 2010 12:29 PM (IMe59)

77

"anybody that becomes famous is an ass for a year and a half"

 

... Obamavich has been president for about how long now?

... So it should be wearing off soon now right?

Posted by: Huckleberry X at July 14, 2010 12:30 PM (s2bW4)

78 The unfortunate part is it will continue to be a great source of successful smearing from the left making Palin less and less likely to be a viable candidate.

I was worried about that, but according to the Harper's article, Bristol's condo is 90 minutes away from the Palins' home.  If they are normal newlyweds with a young child, they (Bristol and Weaselboy) won't spend much time at the Palins' house.  At least, let's hope they won't.  So perhaps the potential for the jerkoff to get more dirt (alleged dirt) on the Palins isn't that high. 

Posted by: Y-not at July 14, 2010 12:30 PM (O627A)

79 81 Sarah Palin should have Bristol get her own house.

Bristol has been living on her own for while in a condo (townhouse) 90 minutes from her parents' place. 

Posted by: Y-not at July 14, 2010 12:33 PM (O627A)

80 and yes Bristol appears to be the type that will pick the douchebag time and time again while ignoring the nice guys

Be fair: the self-described "nice guys" are usually too busy pining after hot wreck bitches to give nice but plump girls like Bristol the time of day.

Posted by: The Cult at July 14, 2010 12:35 PM (M9BNu)

81

It is at times like these that I thank my lucky stars that (thus far) the only rebellion from my eldest have been those tattoos...oh, there was the "I'm in love" out of the eldest one -- but she has since opened her eyes and dumped that very inappropriate and unworthy person.

I'm afraid Bristol is a naive idiot who is a poor judge of character, or has a very piss poor ability to compute that some decisions can have bad consequences -- this guy is a snake, a piece of garbage -- always was, always will be.

Posted by: unknown jane at July 14, 2010 12:41 PM (5/yRG)

82 btw, Bristol has the mental wherewithal of a 13-year old.

She's naive, thinks the best of people, isn't very cynical or suspicious, and is under 25... so nothing here is a surprise.

Go meet people at college, they're almost all like this; the world hasn't kicked them hard enough often enough yet.  They all think sweetness and light can change the world, people are generally good, nice, and kind, and that they understand what is going on and why people do what they do.

You might think a 20 year old is generally going to be more mature than this... you'd be wrong, but you might think this.  Her attitude isn't "13 year old".  It's just "pre-real world living".

Of course being a mom, having to do real finances, sorting out planning for a future for her and her kid... reality may be brutal for her over the next year or three; I expect she'll learn pretty quick. 

And if she's amazingly lucky, Levi will learn some of those lessons too and quit being such a douche; but the odds of someone changing for the better don't favor this outcome.

If she was 40 and still tried the "I thought I could change him/I thought he'd change/I thought he had changed" crap, she'd be showing she couldn't learn a damn thing.  At 20 this sort of thing is where that lesson generally comes from.

If Levi runs off and Monty is correct "she will take up with another jerkoff who's just as bad." then she'll have shown she ain't learnin nuthin.

Posted by: Gekkobear at July 14, 2010 12:46 PM (X0NX1)

83 In a weird way, I bet this actually increases sympathy for Sarah Palin even among Democrat women who are parents. I mean, what parent hasn't had a kid pull an epically stupid stunt? They're still your kids; you still love them, even if they make you so angry you could choke them until their eyeballs bulge out. Parents of sons and daughters who have made "unfortunate" choices number in the millions; they know the score on this situation quite well.

Posted by: Monty at July 14, 2010 12:47 PM (4Pleu)

84
Liar for hire?  LIAR FOR HIRE!  ... I want a liar for hire!

Posted by: Andrew Sullivan at July 14, 2010 12:54 PM (0fzsA)

85 "The truth is, anybody that becomes famous is an ass for a year and a half. You've got to give them a year and a half, two years."

Bill Murray must be talking about light years in that quote.  He's still a petty, obnoxious, vindictive, neurotic mess.  And those are his good points.

Posted by: kathysaysso at July 14, 2010 12:55 PM (ZtwUX)

86
My predictions are a bit more cynical.  I don't trust this dude.  Sure he's young, but he really went out of his way to be a back-stabbing self-absorbed asshole.

Lets hope he steps up and becomes a good dad.
Sadly, somehow, I doubt it will last.

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at July 14, 2010 12:56 PM (0fzsA)

87

Increases sympathy?  Do you know who you are talking about?

 

True @90 -- young women of that age are terribly foolish when it comes to "true love" and "Ima gonna heal his broken wings wit ma love".  Young men at that age are only interested in...well, you know what they are interested in.  Usually by 25 (although maybe 30 now) the women get jaded and the men start to settle down -- and then you get married! lol  Ain't love grand?

Posted by: unknown jane at July 14, 2010 12:57 PM (5/yRG)

88

ehhh ... I think this slimeball is going to be a lowlife piece of trash until the day he dies.

I've done things I'm not proud of -- we all have -- but to go running from talk show to talk show spewing lies about the mother of your child and her family just for a bit of money and attention makes you a good for nothing cocksucker.

Never would I do something like that to someone. I'm no perfect angel; I'm just not a shithead.

People like Levi rarely redeem themselves. A snake is a snake. Go ask anyone who knows John Edwards.

 

 

 

Posted by: Warden at July 14, 2010 01:00 PM (QoR4a)

89 I figure in response to this the Palins have told their daughter they love her and their door is always open. BUT...because Bristol has chosen to lay down with dogs the family will have to hold her at arm's lengths so as not to risk being bitten twice. No talking, no bringing Levi to family functions, no nothing.

Posted by: Great Cthulhu at July 14, 2010 01:00 PM (Pljlr)

90 sifty - yeah.

Remember, only liberals are allowed to have insane children!!!111!
-Martin Sheen

Liberals can commit rape, murder, lie, cheat, steal, and ruin the entire economy, and pretty much get away with it.  Conservatives must be perfect in every way, or they are crucified mercilessly over and over, and then kicked to the curb. 

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at July 14, 2010 01:02 PM (0fzsA)

91 He's been paid to infiltrate for information.  I'd bet good money on this.  There's no question about it.  Hard to believe that Bristol isn't totally suspicious of this and is taking this jerk for his words.  I suppose that's immaturity at best and stupidity at worse.  I just hope that Sarah and Todd are seeing through this.  Wow, it's going to be hard for them to isolate their most personal family issues without isolating themselves from their daughter who I'm sure they have great love for.  Talk about a bad situation to be in.  This is evil, pure evil.  Bristol is putting her parents in a really bad situation. 

Posted by: havedash at July 14, 2010 01:05 PM (UTFx7)

92 I lost my virginity to my gym teacher.

Posted by: John Ryan Jr at July 14, 2010 01:05 PM (I+7Zv)

93 He was gentle. He let me lay my head on a tetherball as he entered from the rear.

Posted by: John Ryan Jr at July 14, 2010 01:07 PM (I+7Zv)

94
denny - There's always exceptions.

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at July 14, 2010 01:11 PM (0fzsA)

95 He tried to destroy her mother.

And I haven't heard her explain why that's justified.  She's putting this crap in supermarket tabloids to get money (I assume because Levi told her to). 

This is a sad situation that makes clear that Bristol is a very limited human being.  To be honest, there are bigger things at stake, too.  She is derailing one of the more promising movements, and it's not clear why.  She couldn't even tell Sarah and Todd directly?  That's insane without some explanation.  As best as I can tell, Sarah paid dearly for Bristol's human flaws, and was gracious about Levi's nastiness.

I know this isn't realistic, but Bristol Palin probably can't be trusted by her family.  I think she would sell a secret or distort an argument.

Posted by: Chili Corn Chips at July 14, 2010 01:11 PM (dUOK+)

96

Being hit with the fame spotlight is blinding, I've seen it happen more than once, and Bill Murray is absolutely right.  Add to that Levi's general naivete about why people wanted to talk to him and believing the hangers-on and you got what you got.

I hope he has changed, for his, Bristol's and their son's sake.

Posted by: Biblio at July 14, 2010 01:12 PM (y5VNb)

97 Tough to think about, but taking this douche-bag back could also be a great way for a pissed-off daughter to give a big "fuck you!" to her parents.

Yup, and if Bristol's so willing to take back her babydaddy after the shit he made up about her mom, I'm thinking she has some serious issues with Sarah.

Posted by: Angry Beaver at July 14, 2010 01:12 PM (QrY5N)

98 I realize that "Ricky Hollywood" did not do anything but have irresponsible unprotected sex with a teenage girl and then jilt her rather than accepting his responsibilities as a man, and that is hardly a conventional way to become a "celebrity," but we are now in a culture where that kind of repulsive "fame" is the same as the well-earned kind.

Sorry, no. Levi became a celebrity because he was a tool to use against Palin, hated by the celebrity/MFM complex.

What he did was just the trigger.

Posted by: Merovign, Strong On His Mountain at July 14, 2010 01:15 PM (bxiXv)

99 I realize that "Ricky Hollywood" did not do anything but have irresponsible unprotected sex with a teenage girl

This is one of my pet peeves.  I don't like the way everyone assumes they had  sex without using birth control.  It's a way of saying that this could never happen to you or your kids because they wouldn't have "unprotected" sex.

No birth control is 100%.  Condoms are not 100% effective in preventing pregnancy, and as those of us who aren't Excitable Andy know, there are only a few days a month when even unprotected sex will make a baby.

Do the math.  If a failed condom can lead to a baby, say, 20% of the month, then 80% of the time, a baby won't happen whether there's a condom or not.  You've probably had condoms fail and didn't even realize it, because hey, no baby.  You've probably had condoms fail and DID realize it, but hey, no baby.

However, we as a society tell our children (and ourselves) that if they use the magical condom, they won't get AIDS, no matter how they screw around.  AIDS can happen any day of the month, and condoms don't make sex "safe."

Posted by: VKI at July 14, 2010 01:34 PM (LZK9H)

100

btw, Bristol has the mental wherewithal of a 13-year old. All jokes and politics aside, this refelcts poorly on her parents.

Your inability to spell refelcts poorly on you.


Posted by: Ken at July 14, 2010 01:34 PM (vwg/7)

101 [That's basically a death threat. Cool it or face the banhammer -TB]

Posted by: Ken at July 14, 2010 01:39 PM (vwg/7)

102 moby......is that you?

Posted by: eleven at July 14, 2010 01:41 PM (7DB+a)

103

He's a dumbguy.  Dumbguys don't know what it means to have character.  Even if you explained it to him, he wouldn't get it.  So he might well think he's contrite right now for the right reasons, but he's not conscious of the other factors like his innate selfishness. 

That said, everyone deserves a second chance, and forgiveness is part of love, so we'll see, I guess. 

I'm sure Sarah is smart enough to keep him at arms length. 

It would sure suck around the house to know you can't unwind and let your guard down becuase your son in law is an unreliable dumbfuck.  Even if he proves otherwise, she can't afford to not be on her guard around him.  And around Bristol to the extent Bristol will repeat anything she hears or sees.

Posted by: rdbrewer at July 14, 2010 01:45 PM (0ONli)

104

Fine, I'll cool it.  But once again...are we going to whine about it, or take action?  If not violent action, then suggest some other means.  I'm open to ideas.

But I'm frankly sick of going through life wearing a scarlet R for Republican, and being a second-class citizen.  To some of you, this may just be the sad effect of a nation in decline.  To me, it is an injustice, and it damned well needs to be corrected.

Posted by: Ken at July 14, 2010 01:46 PM (vwg/7)

105 One dumb person deserves another.  There's that too.

Posted by: rdbrewer at July 14, 2010 01:46 PM (0ONli)

106 I have to admit that he looked pretty hawt in that Playgirl spread ... not that I have that issue hidden under my mattress or anything.

Posted by: John Ryan Jr at July 14, 2010 01:54 PM (I+7Zv)

107

The good: A child should have his father, and a mother should have a husband. Anything that offers up a hope of that is a good thing.

The bad: This guy is a complete self-absorbed asshole and will likely leave her after three or four years.

The ugly: A child is better off without a self-absorbed asshole for a father.

Posted by: dum blond at July 14, 2010 02:07 PM (gbCNS)

108 Uh, maybe they should of tried birth control? I forgot, the right is against that.

Posted by: Bono at July 14, 2010 02:13 PM (7aNei)

109 ...but I was thinking how different it was.

She's setting herself up to possibly be taken for a second ride.

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at July 14, 2010 02:14 PM (rXbvW)

110 What's the over/under on days until a sex video is released?

Posted by: shuddering at July 14, 2010 02:19 PM (9mgCh)

111

Uh, maybe they should of tried birth control? I forgot, the right is against that.

Not for your parents, you evil creep. 

Posted by: Ken at July 14, 2010 02:20 PM (vwg/7)

112 Ken, birth control is evil?

Posted by: Bono at July 14, 2010 02:21 PM (7aNei)

113 What is wrong with women? I realize he's the father of her child, but he's still a lying shit and a public apology doesn't change what he did. Seriously, girls, help me out here; there are women who marry death row inmates that would toss this asshole out on his ear, so why is Bristol doing this?

Posted by: UGAdawg at July 14, 2010 02:22 PM (/VjHB)

114

I once had a boyfriend who cheated every chance he got. When I finally opened my eyes and broke up with him over the cheating, he told me I just didn't understand what it's like to be a sex symbol. I have to say, I learned valuable lessons from that relationship. And, yes, he was a democrat.

Posted by: Recently 'de-tarded' at July 14, 2010 02:24 PM (Y5t7B)

115 I bet if they do get married, the Palins make him sign a contract, to keep his yapper shut in case of divorce.

Posted by: Bono at July 14, 2010 02:24 PM (7aNei)

116 I'd like to mind-meld with Bristol so she'll see into my experience of having a self-absorbed asshole for a father.

Posted by: dum blond at July 14, 2010 02:26 PM (gbCNS)

117 Bono,

Bigtime evil, fires of HELL evil!

But enough about you let's talk about Bristol.

Bristol, I say don't let that lying scumbag anywhere near you, your kid, or your family.

l'il ricky baby bad mouthed the whole clan. You only have ONE responsibility, Tripp. Don't mess it up. Put him first. Look at your siblings. Are they a train wreck looking for a crossing? NO! Your folks apparently know something about raising kids. LISTEN TO THEM!!!!!!!!!


Posted by: Blacksmith8 at July 14, 2010 02:28 PM (Xowz7)

118

If I were Todd, I'd have told Levi last year, maybe when Levi and Bristol were really having a rough spot,  " Go and fuck over the MFM for what they did to Sarah, see what they are really like and how they treat family, make what $ you can from them, we'll take you back ."

Posted by: meleager at July 14, 2010 02:28 PM (Y2/mt)

119 Posted by: VKI at July 14, 2010 05:34 PM (LZK9H)

One thing you appear to be missing is that the failure rates for or "efficiency" of the various birth control methods include failure to use it when intended.

IOW, a condom is actually 98% effective "when used" properly. But published numbers include when not used properly in which it drops to around 80 to  85%.

Posted by: Vic at July 14, 2010 02:29 PM (/jbAw)

120 Silver lining:  Kathy Griffin has to go around Hollywood being the person who got dumped in favor of Palin's daughter.

Mocking should commence immediately.

Posted by: Miss Marple (redneck teabagger) at July 14, 2010 02:31 PM (bixjr)

121 But birth control is evil? According to HIM I think it is. So, is anyone that uses birth control evil?

Posted by: Bono at July 14, 2010 02:31 PM (7aNei)

122 Bono:  As a Catholic,  the official Church policy is that the use of artificial birth control is a mortal sin.   This has to do with the Church's views on marriage and the openness to life as a gift from God.

The Church,  however,  does not try to stop others from using it.  Abortion,  however,  is the killing of an innocent life and the Church does try to exert influence on laws regarding that,  although without much success.

Posted by: Miss Marple (redneck teabagger) at July 14, 2010 02:39 PM (bixjr)

123 So, is anyone that uses birth control evil?

No, only you out of the entire population of the planet are evil.

Posted by: Vic at July 14, 2010 02:39 PM (/jbAw)

124

The ugly: A child is better off without a self-absorbed asshole for a father.

Roger that.

Posted by: rdbrewer at July 14, 2010 02:41 PM (0ONli)

125 Sarah and Todd better keep there distance, financially and in every other respect.  Bristol has made her 'adult' choice, so now she has to live with it. 
Posted by: Y-not

27sifty, Levi burrowing in for more scoops

Under these circumstances in particular, prepare for the worst even while you hope for the best.

Tough love is the only thing that will open Bristol's eyes. The Palins might put Bristol on an allowance. But that would be really stupid. Providing their home with a professional nanny for their grandchild would be smart as far as being certain the child is nurtured and loved within the family unit; but limit help to that while Bristol either attends school or works full time to earn her own keep since she chooses to be an adult. Otherwise, Sarah Palin raises titty baby girls. And acting like everything's fine is not best given Levi the cur.

Posted by: maverick muse at July 14, 2010 02:45 PM (H+LJc)

126 Miss Marple (redneck teabagger)

My understanding is that the pill chemically effects an abortion of the fertilized egg.

Posted by: maverick muse at July 14, 2010 02:48 PM (H+LJc)

127

121  The same thing that is wrong with men -- which is what we women ask when we see you all throwing your money and your pride away running after the biggest bitches to walk the planet...and then getting pissed because women are such bitches! LOL

Everybody is stupid when it comes to romance.

Posted by: unknown jane at July 14, 2010 02:49 PM (5/yRG)

128

Bristol has been living on her own for while in a condo (townhouse) 90 minutes from her parents' place.

Unassisted parenthood of a baby could very well explain why she took him back. She should've mind-melded with my mom about that bright idea.

Posted by: dum blond at July 14, 2010 02:50 PM (gbCNS)

129 I can't believe Ace missed the Obvious: Levy realized Ricky Hollywood ain't happening... And that the Palins are FILTHY RICH, Hello!

Posted by: CoolCzech at July 14, 2010 02:57 PM (tJjm/)

130

So, is anyone that uses birth control evil?

Your mom would have been a saint to keep you from being born, you trash-talking little worm.

Here's a little clue for you:  most of us don't define freedom in terms of sex.  I realize, however, that you are obsessed with sex because (a) you are incapable of any other act, and (b) you probably think it is the right-wingers that are keeping girls from doing you, when in fact it's you that keeps them from doing you.

Posted by: Ken at July 14, 2010 03:00 PM (vwg/7)

131 "Abortion,  however,  is the killing of an innocent life"

But life begins when a sperm and egg connect? In that instant? If so, why does God abort around 40 percent of all his innocent life?

Posted by: Bono at July 14, 2010 03:01 PM (7aNei)

132 Living on your own means that you are financially supporting yourself. Last I heard, she's a student, you say she's in a condo. 19 year old students are often financially supported by their parents, and given Bristol's single parent full time student status, that would be the expected thing of loving parents with the money to share.

When you marry, nothing good comes from hanging on to the apron strings. And Levi hasn't secured a job since he quit the one the Palins arranged for him during the '08 campaign.

Posted by: maverick muse at July 14, 2010 03:02 PM (H+LJc)

133 Bono
Ask God yourself. Go figure that nature is not cushy.

Posted by: maverick muse at July 14, 2010 03:04 PM (H+LJc)

134 I can't believe Ace missed the Obvious.
Cool Czech

He's practicing generosity of spirit. Don't rain on his parade.


Posted by: maverick muse at July 14, 2010 03:06 PM (H+LJc)

135 "Your mom would have been a saint to keep you from being born, you trash-talking little worm."

Don't you get it Ken, if I was never born, I wouldn't know the difference, as I won't when I die. The same with the eggs and sperm coming together. Do they know the difference?

Why does God see fit to miscarry around 40 percent of his beings?

Is God evil?

Posted by: Bono at July 14, 2010 03:08 PM (7aNei)

136 Posted by: maverick muse at July 14, 2010 06:45 PM

Per the Harper's interview Bristol is working full time in Anchorage and living in a townhouse that she apparently bought herself.  I guess that her speaking engagements pay/paid pretty well. 

So I guess she is about as independent as she can be at this point.  I didn't catch who's minding her son while she's working, but at the time of the writing her brother's girlfriend was living with Bristol, so maybe she helps out. 

Posted by: Y-not at July 14, 2010 03:10 PM (O627A)

137 "so maybe she helps out. "

Right, mom is helping out is my guess.

Posted by: Bono at July 14, 2010 03:17 PM (7aNei)

138 Bono, we have a couple of freeways running through the State and I'll loan you a gallon of gas and some matches.

You can play.

Posted by: Vic at July 14, 2010 03:26 PM (/jbAw)

139

Bono:  just because you're sexually obsessed doesn't make you a stud.

And yes, I am judging you.  As is my constitutional right.

Posted by: Ken at July 14, 2010 03:37 PM (vwg/7)

140 Soros got to him, too? I told him I'd never marry Hillary: I HATE fat thighs!

Posted by: Wayang at July 14, 2010 03:43 PM (G5orZ)

141 maverick muse:  Some biirth control pills are abotificiients,  Others prevent the fertilization,   and some prevent the release of the ovum,

For Catholics,  the use is wrong.  The Church has decided to make its stand against the laws on abortion because that is easier to understand,  although they do consider the use of birth controls a sin for cathlics.

I am merely trying to explain what my Church's position is.  And if the pill was a chemically induced method of abortion,  it would fall in the same category.

Posted by: Miss Marple (redneck teabagger) at July 14, 2010 04:36 PM (bixjr)

142 Dear Bristol,

Have a nice life. Bring the kid for a visit now then. Leave the asshole at home.

Love,

Mom and Dad

Posted by: kansas at July 14, 2010 04:40 PM (icayE)

143 Bono:  The begining and ending of life are God's business.  Perhaps those children who are miscarried are going to heaven without sin,  and God,  in his providence,  knew that this was the best for them.

God's ways are not our ways.  It is up to Him to appoint the times of life and death, not people who think a child is an inconvenience,  or those who think old people should just be euthanized.

I get the feeling that you are not a believer.  I am not trying to proselytize you,  merely explaining.  I will pray for you to see the truth.

Posted by: Miss Marple (redneck teabagger) at July 14, 2010 04:42 PM (bixjr)

144 This makes me sad, because I have known women who bore children out of wedlock, did NOT marry the worthless dads, and then sooner or later met and married wonderful men, who are wonderful husbands and fathers. If Bristol marries this creep, she will miss her chance to marry the RIGHT man.

Posted by: Kathy from Kansas at July 14, 2010 08:26 PM (E/o2S)

145 I was going to write about this, but Ace did it exactly like I would have. Down to the Bill Murray quote. Eerie.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 14, 2010 08:49 PM (PQY7w)

146

"being a deadbeat dad and liar-for-hire isn't really a career."

No, but to be fair, we haven't really fully explored the whole showing your airbrushed bare ass and muffin top waist to the world. That could still work out.

Posted by: azkag at July 14, 2010 08:55 PM (3HzjS)

147 Is murdering an infant wrong?

If so, why does God murder little kids sometimes with illnesses and disasters?

oh, you mean that kind of argument is only OK to support abortion being like what God does?

It's not up to people to terminate other people, even fetus people.

It's one thing to say now isn't the time to make a person, and another to say it's time to stop a specific person from being born.

Posted by: Chili Corn Chips at July 14, 2010 09:02 PM (dUOK+)

148 "
Why does God see fit to miscarry around 40 percent of his beings?

Is God evil?

Posted by: Bono at July 14, 2010 07:08 PM (7aNei)


Who is to say God actually chose to do this?  Perhaps this is the best possible procreation God was capable of making.  It's not like God wants people to be raped or murdered, but it's the best he can do to give us free will.

It's not an argument for killing a baby that nature also kills.

Posted by: Chili Corn Chips at July 14, 2010 09:06 PM (dUOK+)

149

"I realize that "Ricky Hollywood" did not do anything but have irresponsible unprotected sex with a teenage girl and then jilt her rather than accepting his responsibilities as a man"

 

Well..... actually, the most important thing he did was ATTACK Sarah Palin.   That is what made him famous.  He was a HERO to the MSM and remains so to this day.

Posted by: Hangtown Bob at July 15, 2010 06:20 AM (PlXoG)

150 Bristol Palin is a fucking idiot.  And Levi is just a cock life support unit with no conscience or morals.  I am not at all impressed with either one of them.  If they died in a car crash it would be no loss of human life in either case.  They are both about as useless as tits on a bear.

Posted by: USMC Steve at July 15, 2010 10:00 AM (FRERp)

151 Kind of shoots a hole in the leftards theory that Levi was being blackmailed with visitation in order to get him to change his story regarding the Palins, doesn't it?

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