August 31, 2010
— Ace A guest post by Michael Smith of Heritage Alliance.
I asked Michael Smith to write us up a guide to organizing before the election. He'd offered advice in this area before, and I thought I should take him up on it.
Below, his essay. It's a great, detailed DIY guide to local organizing (and local insurgency). A lot of people like to blog or comment because they feel they don't have a voice in our actual politics; I know that was the main reason I started.
But, for those with a bit of social agility and talent for organization (and if you haven't tried, maybe you have that talent but don't know it yet), there is a more tangible way to have a real voice in politics.
I know that if morons here were well-represented up in NY-23 we never would have had to learn to spell the name "Dede Scozzaflava" or whatever the hell it was called.
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Grassroots Organization... For Morons
by Michael Smith,
Heritage Alliance.
Nolan Ryan used to annoy sports reporters because every time they'd ask him the same mindless pre-game question they ask all the other players ("What's it going to take to win tonight?"), he'd give the same answer: "The key to winning this ball game is to outscore the opposition."
Now that conservatives have been throwing rallies, renting billboards, and crashing town halls for 18 months, they're coming to realize that by 7 p.m. Nov. 2, what counts is how many votes they've put on the board.
How to get votes? Organization. When it's done right, it wins elections--and it's just about the only way to beat an incumbent.
More importantly this season: While felons and Democrat election officials can steal a close one, they can't beat a blowout. We need a blowout.
Organizing voters simply means having the names and contact information for, and communicating with, people who vote like you in your area. That area can be as small as your block, precinct, state legislative district, or U.S. Congress district--whatever you think that you, as an activist, can handle.
But why bother? Especially if you live in a safe GOP district, or the opposite--one designed as a corral for Democrats. Either way, can you hope to move the needle?
Damn the torpedoes! Choose from any of the following valid reasons to organize:
* Small numbers can swing primaries, when only 10 percent of registered voters show up.
* Are all your representatives--state house, state senate, U.S. Congress--solid conservatives? Nothing can get them voting right faster than the knowledge that somebody is organizing voters in their district. If they don't, the primary is their term limit. (And, as Ace noted recently, the primary is where personnel changes must be made. By general-election time, the choice is often between meh and bleah.)
* Many states (such as Texas, where I live) need to build a big state-house majority for redistricting. Since 2006 they've suffered with Democrats in seats that had always been "safe" Republican.
* There's no guarantee that the Republican who replaces your Democrat this November won't turn RINO. More on that later.
But let's look at how organizing benefits you personally.
When you have a list of 50 registered voters and a means of staying in touch with them, you become a big deal in the eyes of elected officials, and to the party. They know that when they talk with you, they're essentially talking with a whole bunch of voters who respect you as a leader. To politicians, you become Mr. Bloc O'Votes. In another time, they would be lighting your cigars for you.
Fortunately, we don't live in those times, so gathering the information you need to become Mr. O'Votes isn't nearly so hard as it once was.
You no longer have to walk around the neighborhood knocking on doors, although that may help. In my state, you can get a CD full of voter information with an online form and a fee somewhere between $0.0005 and $0.00000625 per voter. (In a typical suburban precinct that would cost $105.86 including the basic service charge.)
However, your county party already has that CD and might just parcel out a chunk of it to you free if they believe you're serious about organizing. Activist groups do this, too. My employer, Heritage Alliance, organizes conservative voters in Texas, and we're always looking for people to dedicate a few hours up front, and a few throughout year, to organize their block, precinct, or state house district. We already have the list.
Once you have your copy, the next step is to identify the "right" voters--the ones who vote like you. Your list probably includes individual voting records--which party primary they voted in, and how many times they've done so. You want the ones called "1R," "2R," and "3R"--they voted in the GOP primary once, twice, or three times over the past three election cycles. They are among that 10 percent who matter.
Now that you have the information, the next step is to decide whether to grow your comfort zone, or continue sitting on your ass in front of a computer all day: You must actually talk to those voters.
Since you have names and addresses, you can probably find phone numbers for half of them using online directories. The dwindling number of households with land-line telephone service limits this, of course. Still, it's worthwhile, because every voter you get in touch with by phone is one less you have to track down on foot.
(Remember, you only care about registered voters. People who haven't bothered to register don't understand the value of their vote, and they're likely to be the kind who expect others (i.e., the government) to take care of them. Deal only with the registered voters. As Scott Rasmussen said recently, "The people who ultimately vote decide everything.")
Build your list according to your abilities. If you're a techie, you can create a database. Most Morons could work from an Excel spreadsheet. AOL-types can print it out and use pencils.
Set a voter-organization goal for yourself. I suggest between 25 and 50 voters. To start, take a guess at how many neighbors on your block vote the way you do. Extend that out geographically until you get your number--you can count the houses on a Google map. Then start calling the voters within that area.
Call your 3Rs first and tell them you're building a neighborhood voters' association, and you have a one-minute survey. Ask a few qualifying yes/no questions, such as, "Do you think taxes and spending must be reduced to save our economy?" and "Should gay marriage be legal?" You want people of conviction, not mavericks looking to preen.
When a voter passes your test, ask for his e-mail address and phone number. Tell him you'll be in touch with him with more information, and set yourself a deadline for following through.
If you don't hit your goal using just the 3Rs, go to 2Rs and then 1Rs. When you run out of phone numbers you may have to go knocking on doors. A smile and a stain-free shirt help. Also pants. Clip your library card or something to your pocket so you look official. Use breath mints.
Next, perform a valuable service for the voters you have organized. Look up the various deadlines (ballot-by-mail for the seniors; voter-registration deadlines in case someone's kid just turned 18; and the hours and dates for voting) and get a map of where the precinct-house is. E-mail or print-and-deliver this stuff to them. They will consider you a good citizen, someone they can get behind, even if they already know this information. In closing, ask them to help you stay on top of who's moved into the neighborhood and might be a good prospect for your organization.
By this point you should come up with a simple name so your group has a handle. From a marketing standpoint, I suggest nothing radical or offensive (not everyone shares your interest in Hannah Giles), but rather a fairly generic name that says what you are: "Valley View Voters Assn." is fine, and as long as you don't give money to candidates, you don't have to incorporate or file any reports. You can write a short statement of principles--shorter is better--like, "To restore the Founders' values in government," so everybody knows you're not socialists.
There are a million ways to communicate with and among your group members, and you have probably already thought of creating an e-mail list, Yahoo! Group, or Facebook page.
The cool thing about getting this far is, you have already just boosted voter turnout in your precinct significantly. The 1Rs and 2Rs, just by virtue of having attention paid to them, will move up to 3R status in short order, and no one will want to miss an election.
The next thing to do is help your voters decide whom to vote for. My organization builds a voter guide for every primary and general election. This takes many man-hours, and the instant a dollar is spent all kinds of 501(c)(4) or PAC regs come into play. So either refer your people to someone else's guide, or go huge and incorporate.
You could leave it right there and just give your "organization" a little push once in a while. There may be municipal, bond, and school-board elections in the odd years or on odd dates. In these and in runoffs your group will have a heightened profile, because turnout is always abysmal.
Then there are the primaries, where your people can provide the margin to choose between a RINO and a Bachmann. (As note above, by the General Election, the choice is often limited to bad vs. worse, when there's any choice at all. Primaries are where the action is.)
When Congress and your state legislature are in session, you can watch what other organizations (pro-life, 2nd Amendment, taxpayers, etc.) are responding to, and activate your voters in support. Bill numbers, phone numbers, and e-mail addresses for your neighborhood's legislators are a valuable service you can provide. If you can stomach it, subscribe to "progressive" activist groups' e-mail alerts; they will already have done all the work gathering contact/bill information for you to pass on to your group to express the exact opposite opinion and thwart them.
And as hinted above, if any of your reps don't play nice, your group can pose a serious threat in the next primary. Forget "Remember in November"; it's the primary, stupid.
Don't ask me if this works. Ask NRA. Better yet, ask John Dingell (D-Michigan). NRA scared the crap out of him years ago in the primaries, and now he knows what they want before they say it. NRA has the advantage of a hot issue dear to many people, but this year, so do all conservatives: Pelosi-Reid-Obama.
Also, Bob Kasten famously proved the value of grassroots organizing (pp. 110-111). Outspent by two primary opponents 19-1 and 10-1, he beat them both, then went on to win a U.S. Senate seat. From then on, establishing vote goals precinct-by-precinct became known as the "Kasten Plan." (Kasten famously lost when he decided not to use the technique in a race for governor.)
Why don't more candidates and organzations do this? Probably because it's kind of messy. You have to deal with real people, and a few of them can be ornery and ungrateful. Politicians especially tend to prefer the fundraiser crowd--the muckety-mucks with excellent table manners whose company makes the candidate feel pretty special. They've built a whole game around this dollars-and-media campaign style, talking up their war chest in the months leading up to the filing deadline, so as to scare off regular people who can barely imagine themselves running for office, let alone winning.
Also, the consultants don't make much money organizing grassroots. They prefer big budgets and some rather incestuous relationships with media buyers, printers, and other vendors that grassroots campaigns put far less emphasis on.
Why should we do this?
There's an old saying about trying the same thing over and over, hoping for a different result.
So let me restate the question: How many more times can we "throw the bums out"? The bums keep coming back. Since the Contract With America expired, we've been worse off than ever.
Our reaction this time must be profound, and it helps to look that word up: descending or being far below the surface. The left is already profound.
In the latter half of the 20th century we all got accustomed to certain major establishments being owned by the left. Education, media, mainline churches, philanthropic foundations--along with anything in D.C. that starts with "Department of." They are fashionably leftish in worldview and resistant to any other influence.
Now that mindset "owns" Congress and the White House. And we're threatening, once again, to throw the bums out. Why do we think it will work this time?
The solution is to make conservatism what liberalism has been since William F. Buckley first identified it way back in the early '50s: The dominant, ingrained, institutional ideology that no one can defeat.
It won't happen by just putting conservatives in charge, because the good ones never last and the rest buy into the system. It won't happen through laws and amendments because the left just gets around them. It has to be the product of a large number of people working consistently over time. And if that sounds daunting, remember that, working as a team, we don't have to do very much work.
Ask any legislator: Fifty voters get his attention through phone calls and e-mails, and a number that small can even sway his vote on a bill. Those same 50 voters, connected to 50 more in adjacent precincts, can swing the primary.
Your little band of organized voters can make their will known. If the lawmakers resist, your same group can replace them in the primary, when they're most vulnerable.
It comes down to will.
Will you?
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Posted by: Lincolntf at August 30, 2010 10:57 AM (I+0qc)
I'm not sure. One is supported by the Tea Party which appear to be jacked up hippie retreads that want to legalize dope.
Posted by: Barbarian at August 30, 2010 10:59 AM (EL+OC)
Posted by: Dr Spank at August 30, 2010 11:00 AM (xtAfO)
Posted by: Lincolntf at August 30, 2010 11:01 AM (I+0qc)
Posted by: Penfold at August 30, 2010 11:01 AM (1PeEC)
Have at it, folks, and you have my thanks.
For my household, my deep-blue liberal wife and I have a Mutual Assured Destruction policy not to contribute or volunteer on either side.
But I am way more looking forward to November than she is.
Posted by: Bat Chain Puller at August 30, 2010 11:03 AM (SCcgT)
I think I'll stick with the donation, yard-sign, bumper sticker and haranguing of everyone in earshot.
I like haranguing. It's what I do best.
Posted by: Soona at August 30, 2010 11:03 AM (vMfkE)
tell everyone you see to vote ... they'll figure out who to vote for on their own ...
we need I's to vote not just R's ...
Posted by: Jeff at August 30, 2010 11:04 AM (A3tpD)
Posted by: Hous Bin Pharteen at August 30, 2010 11:04 AM (nRF6+)
Posted by: logprof at August 30, 2010 11:06 AM (BP6Z1)
Posted by: katya, the designated driver at August 30, 2010 11:07 AM (WF5bO)
Posted by: Soona at August 30, 2010 11:09 AM (vMfkE)
Posted by: jeannie at August 30, 2010 11:10 AM (GdalM)
You left out the first (and most important sentence) for us Morons.
Start with copious amounts of Valu-Rite vodka.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 30, 2010 11:10 AM (kFODZ)
A smile and a stain-free shirt low-cut blouse help.
Would you believe...a low-cut blouse and no pants??
Well, thank you, Mr. Smith, for the advice so carefully calibrated just for us.
Posted by: Mama AJ at August 30, 2010 11:11 AM (XdlcF)
Wow. He really is talking to us!
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at August 30, 2010 11:11 AM (5aa4z)
Posted by: t-bird at August 30, 2010 11:11 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Lincolntf at August 30, 2010 11:13 AM (I+0qc)
Remember, a vote for Jeff is a vote to keep your teeth and not piss blood.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 30, 2010 11:14 AM (W9m/i)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 30, 2010 03:14 PM (W9m/i)
Have we met, cocksucker?
Posted by: Al Swearingen at August 30, 2010 11:15 AM (BP6Z1)
Wow. He really is talking to us!
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at August 30, 2010 03:11 PM (5aa4z)
Best not to use the "membership" card to the local strip joint or that hilarious FBI (Female Body Inspector) card that you carry. Might scare away the older folks.
Posted by: ErikW at August 30, 2010 11:15 AM (jXyj0)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 30, 2010 11:16 AM (W9m/i)
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I can attest to the value of a small group and its disproportionate influence a group of legislators. I ended up getting a definition of a key term in a state law changed. That change affected about 125,000 people - and the whole time I was fighting the established advocacy groups who wanted to play by "the rules"
That took place over the better part of two years with lots of opportunities to say "fuck it" and play golf. I was so burned out by the time the final sessions were being held, that I almost didn't drive to the Hearings to testify because I had an intense "what's the point?" bout of depression. Plus it was gray and drizzly and a couple of hours drive to the hearings.
But, decisions are made by the people who show up.
Two months after givving testimony I got a call from a friend who said "Holy shit, they put your change in!" -- I checked, and, so they did.
Huzzah.
I spoke on behalf of about 72 people who agreed with my recommendation. It didn't cost me a dime, other than for gas and tolls. I sunk about 500 hours of time into the project over those two years. And there was no guarantee of success at any point along the path.
and the fight isn't over. But I'm a hell of a lot smarter about state representatives than I used to be, how bills become laws, how to frame your issues for legislators and their staffs, and how to put some urgency into the issue.
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I have fun posting here, but, having read that article, I figure there's work to be done. Me and Hadji the Muslim Comic will be taking a break for a bit - see if we can't get Pat Toomey elected.
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Posted by: BumperStickerist at August 30, 2010 11:17 AM (Hj0nA)
No in all seriousness you do have to look very presentable to even get a foot in the door. Unless you want to talk to Crazy McScrewballPants that just wants to talk to anyone about anything.
The last thing any of us want is strange people knocking on our door. You'll assume Jehova's Witness (NTTIAWWT, well, actually....back to the issue) and be inclined to shove the door in their face.
We had some guys during the Obama campaign that looked so damn frightening we almost called the cops. And me, not converse in mumble, couldn't communicate with them that they needed to promptly get the hell off my property.
For me, it really wasn't change I could believe in.
Posted by: laceyunderalls at August 30, 2010 11:17 AM (pLTLS)
Posted by: curious at August 30, 2010 11:17 AM (p302b)
not everyone shares your interest in Hannah Giles
Then they are not now and never will be part of my social circle. I may be a moron but I have my standards.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 30, 2010 11:18 AM (pvIfl)
that we were all talk and no action on this blog?
Don't forget, we scorn anyone smarter than us, too. Cuz y'know, we're all hicks 'n stuff.
Posted by: Dang Straights at August 30, 2010 11:20 AM (fx8sm)
Posted by: DarkLordOfTheIntarWebs at August 30, 2010 11:21 AM (IkEhE)
Posted by: Barak "King Hussein" Obama at August 30, 2010 11:21 AM (vMfkE)
I gave them beer, ordered a pizza, and then had them drink more beer until they decided to just go home with a trunk full of Marjorie Margolies Mezvinsky signs.
The republican candidate won by a narrow margin.
Sometimes the key to winning a battle is to not fight at all.
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Posted by: BumperStickerist at August 30, 2010 11:21 AM (Hj0nA)
Well, you've lost our support.
Posted by: American Association of Masochists and Emo Self-Cutters at August 30, 2010 11:22 AM (poAzP)
The last thing any of us want is strange people knocking on our door. You'll assume Jehova's Witness (NTTIAWWT, well, actually....back to the issue) and be inclined to shove the door in their face.
We had some guys during the Obama campaign that looked so damn frightening we almost called the cops. And me, not converse in mumble, couldn't communicate with them that they needed to promptly get the hell off my property.
For me, it really wasn't change I could believe in.
Posted by: laceyunderalls at August 30, 2010 03:17 PM (pLTLS)
A chick in a low cut top and a miniskirt would probably ensure that they don't think you're a JW and keep the door from being slammed.
Posted by: buzzion at August 30, 2010 11:23 AM (oVQFe)
Let's see. Do you:
Have a dark, spreading stain on the front of your trousers?
Have a hard time deciding between playing dead or looking around for escape route?
Stink of fear?
If you answered No to the above questions and are of Irish or Chinee ancestry, I'd say ye haven't, boyo. Please leave your contact information.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 30, 2010 11:25 AM (W9m/i)
By the time you've gotten involved, chances are there is a strategy in-place.
Do what you can to help enact that strategy.
Helpful people - the ones who tell you how'd they do it, if they were doing it - suck.
Posted by: BumperStickerist at August 30, 2010 11:25 AM (Hj0nA)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 30, 2010 03:14 PM
Whoooo are Yew? Whoooooooooo are Yewwwwwwwwwwwwwww?
Posted by: Bob Etheridge (D umb) at August 30, 2010 11:26 AM (yQWNf)
Posted by: Greaser at August 30, 2010 11:26 AM (J7yLU)
Ace, Hannity just opened his show with the most chilling recording I've ever heard. Apparently he is receiving death threats.
Hannity has been getting those for years. Same as Beck. Makes one wonder the type of threats Rush gets on a daily basis. Scary.
Posted by: Soona at August 30, 2010 11:28 AM (vMfkE)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 30, 2010 11:29 AM (kFODZ)
Posted by: Joe at August 30, 2010 03:26 PM (uFokq
For that I will even eat his pancakes. What format do you want the video in?
Posted by: Rocks at August 30, 2010 11:29 AM (Q1lie)
>> Unless you want to talk to Crazy McScrewballPants that just wants to talk to anyone about anything.
What? I combed my hair.
Posted by: Dave in Texas at August 30, 2010 11:30 AM (WvXvd)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 30, 2010 11:30 AM (W9m/i)
Have at it, folks, and you have my thanks.
For my household, my deep-blue liberal wife and I have a Mutual Assured Destruction policy not to contribute or volunteer on either side.
But I am way more looking forward to November than she is.
Posted by: Bat Chain Puller at August 30, 2010 03:03 PM (SCcgT)
My lip would bleed from the biting. (In the restraining my self sense)
Posted by: Randy at August 30, 2010 11:32 AM (zQKSr)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 30, 2010 03:30 PM (W9m/i)
I'll pay $20.00 for somebody to have at my eyeballs with an icepick.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at August 30, 2010 11:32 AM (5aa4z)
Posted by: Joe at August 30, 2010 03:26 PM (uFokq
For that I will even eat his pancakes. What format do you want the video in?
Posted by: Rocks at August 30, 2010 03:29 PM (Q1lie)
Is wicket in the corner in a gimp mask?
Posted by: buzzion at August 30, 2010 11:32 AM (oVQFe)
Posted by: President "Pedals", humming to himself at August 30, 2010 11:33 AM (FcR7P)
I'll pay $20.00 for somebody to have at my eyeballs with an icepick.
Okay but first I have to have sex with with him and record it.
Posted by: Rocks at August 30, 2010 11:34 AM (Q1lie)
Posted by: Soona at August 30, 2010 03:09 PM (vMfkE)
Be sure to point out the hypocrisy of the left every chance you get. Especially mister "We can't eat what we want, drive what we want, use air conditioning and expect the rest of the world to be okay with that."
Posted by: Randy at August 30, 2010 11:34 AM (zQKSr)
Be sure to point out the hypocrisy of the left every chance you get. Especially mister "We can't eat what we want, drive what we want, use air conditioning and expect the rest of the world to be okay with that."
Posted by: Randy at August 30, 2010 03:34 PM
Well I can..... because I ONE bitches!
Posted by: Preznit Tricycle at August 30, 2010 11:36 AM (yQWNf)
Posted by: toby928 at August 30, 2010 03:34 PM (S5YRY)
Posted by: Al Sharpton at August 30, 2010 11:36 AM (Q1lie)
Posted by: Cheech Marin at August 30, 2010 11:36 AM (9cflz)
You know why I'm offering this?
Because my colleague at the now defunct Air America, in collusion with the Huff-n-Puff Po, is offering $100K for a Glenn Beck sex tape or anything that destroys Beck's character.
Posted by: Joe at August 30, 2010 11:36 AM (uFokq)
I contacted my county level GOP representative and got laughed at like a lunatic!
Keep Walking on Sunshine, you over-confident prick!
Honestly, I cant tell which interests me more...
Noting the inevitable decline of a great Republic or ensuring the specific demise of one particular jack-hole.
He really was an aggressive asshole.
Too bad, he is like 12 years old, and takes Facebook postings' like gospel.
You can't even ENGAGE people like this...
They are ALIENS and they have our number...
Posted by: Deety hating Dotty lines at August 30, 2010 11:38 AM (aVzyR)
Posted by: Joe at August 30, 2010 11:38 AM (uFokq)
Posted by: Joe at August 30, 2010 03:36 PM (uFokq)
okay now wait a minute. You're doubling up? It's 100K a piece, no quantity discounts.
Posted by: Rocks at August 30, 2010 11:39 AM (Q1lie)
When you mention Grassroots Organization for morons.
I was thinking Val-U-Rite and passing out at a city park.
Before noon of course.
Posted by: YIKES! at August 30, 2010 11:39 AM (WHRS/)
you then click on "listen live".
You have to hear this tape. It is wholly frightening
Posted by: curious at August 30, 2010 11:41 AM (p302b)
Posted by: Rocks at August 30, 2010 11:42 AM (Q1lie)
Posted by: curious at August 30, 2010 11:43 AM (p302b)
Posted by: i'm making threats! F-YOU! at August 30, 2010 11:43 AM (icVev)
Seriously, you do want to look presentable, but don't overdress. That comment about looking like a JW is spot on. If you're walking around in a suit, or slacks, dress shit and a tie, you're turning people off. Golf shirt tucked in or bowling shit, khakis, and comfortable shoes are the way to go. Nice casual or whatever the fuck that's called.
At least half of the people won't answer their doors. You can hit 150 doors a day if you push it, and you'll be lucky to talk to 35 people. It can be frustrating, and it can wear you out fast.
Some people are going to want to talk. While it's nice to find people of like mind, you don't have time for in-depth discussions. Get their contact info and move on.
While it might be fun to find a libtard who's ready to do battle, you don't have time for in-depth debates. Move on.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at August 30, 2010 11:43 AM (fLHQe)
Posted by: curious at August 30, 2010 03:43 PM (p302b)
Wow I hadn't really thought of it that way. Sorry the deal is off. Now how do I get it out of my mind?
Posted by: Rocks at August 30, 2010 11:44 AM (Q1lie)
Posted by: curious at August 30, 2010 11:44 AM (p302b)
Posted by: Cheech Marin at August 30, 2010 11:45 AM (9cflz)
You have to hear this tape. It is wholly frightening
Read an article on American Thinker about the threats black gangs and groups have been making and carrying out in places like the Iowa state fair.
Posted by: Soona at August 30, 2010 11:46 AM (vMfkE)
I loled cause I could see ace, preparing to film a sex tape, disappointed...
Posted by: curious at August 30, 2010 11:46 AM (p302b)
Posted by: t-bird at August 30, 2010 11:47 AM (FcR7P)
think of ace doing everything out of the box...
Wait. Are you telling me Ace thinks he's a cat and he poops in a box? Kinky.
Posted by: Joe at August 30, 2010 11:47 AM (uFokq)
I loled cause I could see ace, preparing to film a sex tape, disappointed...
Hell yeah disappointed. You know how much Valu-Rite and low-carb beef jerky that could buy?
Posted by: Dang Straights at August 30, 2010 11:47 AM (fx8sm)
hey, hey....whoa whoawhoa....im making the threats here you little shit...
Posted by: i'm making threats! F-YOU! at August 30, 2010 11:48 AM (icVev)
the caller on the tape hannity is playing seems to be a middle aged white woman. (but you can't tell from voices, could be black or another color) but her voice makes you think "middle aged white"
Posted by: curious at August 30, 2010 11:48 AM (p302b)
True. It would probably just be a link to HotAir, anyway.
Posted by: CUS at August 30, 2010 11:50 AM (wOGfT)
Posted by: curious at August 30, 2010 11:50 AM (p302b)
Posted by: Your MFM at August 30, 2010 11:51 AM (poAzP)
Posted by: Vitalis at August 30, 2010 11:51 AM (UcYLJ)
Posted by: Zombie Kleagle Byrd at August 30, 2010 11:52 AM (9cflz)
Posted by: DJIA at August 30, 2010 03:48 PM (S5YRY)
We've shoved the car into (D), only to read the owners manual to find out that (D) stands for Depression.
Posted by: Cicero at August 30, 2010 11:53 AM (QKKT0)
the caller on the tape hannity is playing seems to be a middle aged white woman. (but you can't tell from voices, could be black or another color) but her voice makes you think "middle aged white"
Probably some horny, frustrated little grandma who ain't getting it from grandpa anymore.
Posted by: Soona at August 30, 2010 11:53 AM (vMfkE)
Posted by: curious at August 30, 2010 11:54 AM (p302b)
Posted by: FlaviusJulius at August 30, 2010 03:54 PM (9cflz)
It wasn't just hannity. They said they had "silenced liz cheney and dick cheney" and that they were "looking forward to rush dying of a heart attack" and "hannity's headset exploding" and they said they "knew where they all lived".
I'm still sick after hearing it.
Posted by: curious at August 30, 2010 11:55 AM (p302b)
Gimme a call. I got a bunch up in the attic.
Posted by: Zombie Robert Byrd at August 30, 2010 11:55 AM (wOGfT)
Posted by: Dang Straights at August 30, 2010 03:52 PM (fx8sm)
Screw that. I'm long on beans, bullets, and bullion.
Posted by: InTrade Troll at August 30, 2010 11:56 AM (5aa4z)
Yes, but what does the Intrade Troll® have to say about this?
Posted by: Dang Straights at August 30, 2010 03:52 PM (fx8sm)
John Ryan is off in his fantasy world about ducks dying by eating lead shot, Rasmussen being the last poll to have McCain leading, and claiming that seeing black people at a polling place is what scares us.
Posted by: buzzion at August 30, 2010 11:56 AM (oVQFe)
Posted by: FlaviusJulius at August 30, 2010 03:54 PM (9cflz)
One of those tolerant nonviolent liberals.
Posted by: buzzion at August 30, 2010 11:57 AM (oVQFe)
Posted by: FlaviusJulius at August 30, 2010 11:57 AM (9cflz)
My friend wants to make a home made ghost costume for her kid and believe it or not she is having a tough time finding a plain white sheet.
How big is the kid? Maybe a pillowcase would do.
Posted by: Soona at August 30, 2010 11:58 AM (vMfkE)
Posted by: FlaviusJulius at August 30, 2010 11:58 AM (9cflz)
What's this?
Howie Carr is saying Ed Shultz had a fit (behind the scenes) at MSNBC.
Is this old news? Any one have any 411 on this?
Posted by: mr magoo at August 30, 2010 11:58 AM (uFokq)
Posted by: buzzion at August 30, 2010 03:56 PM (oVQFe)"
you know my middle class, educated black friends are starting to get really annoyed. theya re thinking everything they have worked so hard to achieve is being ruined by a "bunch of idiots". Haven't yet had the courage to ask them to name the "bunch of idiots" but they started saying this sunday after the sharpie rally.
Posted by: curious at August 30, 2010 11:59 AM (p302b)
Posted by: Jean at August 30, 2010 11:59 AM (CPefM)
Posted by: FlaviusJulius at August 30, 2010 11:59 AM (9cflz)
"How big is the kid? Maybe a pillowcase would do.
Posted by: Soona at August 30, 2010 03:58 PM (vMfkE)"
he's like 4...the pillowcase idea is great I just passed it on to her and she is thrilled cause it will mean less work.
Posted by: curious at August 30, 2010 12:00 PM (p302b)
Posted by: FlaviusJulius at August 30, 2010 12:01 PM (9cflz)
Posted by: Jean at August 30, 2010 12:02 PM (CPefM)
Posted by: curious at August 30, 2010 12:02 PM (p302b)
Posted by: FlaviusJulius at August 30, 2010 12:03 PM (9cflz)
Posted by: Jean at August 30, 2010 04:02 PM (CPefM)"
Jean I almost threw up my lunch that is how sick hearing that made me and it would have made me just as sick if they substituted dem/lib names in there too...it just was horrifying.
Posted by: curious at August 30, 2010 12:04 PM (p302b)
Posted by: FlaviusJulius at August 30, 2010 12:04 PM (9cflz)
I CAN SEE NOVEMBER FROM MY HOUSE!
Posted by: TheresaD(who loves to shout BOOBIES!) at August 30, 2010 12:04 PM (K9XK2)
Posted by: curious at August 30, 2010 12:05 PM (p302b)
"How big is the kid? Maybe a pillowcase would do.
Posted by: Soona at August 30, 2010 03:58 PM (vMfkE)"
he's like 4...the pillowcase idea is great I just passed it on to her and she is thrilled cause it will mean less work.
My good deed is done for the day. Now I can get mean.
Posted by: Soona at August 30, 2010 12:05 PM (vMfkE)
Posted by: Jean at August 30, 2010 12:06 PM (CPefM)
Posted by: TheresaD(who loves to shout BOOBIES!) at August 30, 2010 12:06 PM (K9XK2)
Posted by: DJIA at August 30, 2010 04:04 PM (S5YRY)
I didn't think anyone could go down faster than me.
Posted by: You New jersey Prom Date at August 30, 2010 12:07 PM (wOGfT)
Good article.
Aside from inherent laziness and disorganization there's the fact that my district is 80% Dem. There's zero chance even a RINO Republican primary winner could win a seat in the general.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at August 30, 2010 12:07 PM (plsiE)
Posted by: ChicagoJedi at August 30, 2010 12:07 PM (WZFkG)
Oh, and low-cut blouses and sweaters. I'm on that.
Posted by: King Barry at August 30, 2010 12:08 PM (UOM48)
Who would threaten Hammity?
Same kinda folks on HuffPO who were offering a reward on any nasty tapes, pictuers etc that could be found on Beck to "Remove him from the scene once and for all."
I swear, liberals are either crazy, stupid or demonic.
Posted by: EZB at August 30, 2010 12:08 PM (Ty06w)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 30, 2010 12:09 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Jean at August 30, 2010 12:09 PM (CPefM)
Jean it truly made me ill. But, oddly enough when I heard the woman threatening liz chency, I haven't been big on her and I thought to myself "for her to engender this kind of a reaction from the left, maybe I ought to take a second look at her"
Posted by: curious at August 30, 2010 12:11 PM (p302b)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 30, 2010 12:12 PM (UOM48)
Aside from inherent laziness and disorganization there's the fact that my district is 80% Dem. There's zero chance even a RINO Republican primary winner could win a seat in the general.
But these are extrordinary times. Consider the fact that many dems are participating in the tea party movement. Ya' never know.
Posted by: Soona at August 30, 2010 12:14 PM (vMfkE)
Posted by: Jean at August 30, 2010 12:14 PM (CPefM)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 30, 2010 12:17 PM (UOM48)
Jane, I was looking for a lame excuse not to do something this weekend...thanks...
Posted by: curious at August 30, 2010 12:23 PM (p302b)
Posted by: motionview at August 30, 2010 12:39 PM (zRbkQ)
hollowpoint, you can always vote with your feet or go subversive and join the local resistance.
Yeah; not a real good time to sell a house. I still vote R, but for the most part it's a symbolic gesture during non-Presidential election years. Certainly not worth the effort to help decide who the losing Republican will be.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at August 30, 2010 12:40 PM (plsiE)
Trouble being, when those mobs get out of control. Ask Robespierre how that works out...
Posted by: DarkLordOfTheIntarWebs at August 30, 2010 12:42 PM (IkEhE)
Posted by: Quilly Mammoth at August 30, 2010 01:03 PM (c3i/K)
Posted by: noce sacco at August 30, 2010 02:49 PM (Qc93O)
Rep _3,885 (24.6%)
Dem 11,892 (75.3%)
We're gonna need a mighty big wave to overcome that.
Even if I got 50 other motivated morons in my county to canvas for votes. We'd likely only be able to wrestle up an additioanal 2500 votes in a best case scenario.
So depressing.
Posted by: Smapty at August 30, 2010 03:31 PM (bAySe)
Posted by: K~Bob at August 30, 2010 09:09 PM (9b6FB)
Posted by: letitbe at August 31, 2010 01:28 AM (86PrP)
Posted by: Hey.Wheres.Barry at August 31, 2010 06:14 AM (gQLr2)
thanks for playing. If you live in a gerrymandered district, you're a neighbor of a less gerrymandered district - do some advocacy there.
If you're in a hopelessly blue district, adopt a purple district and try to turn it red.
Do something.
To consider persons and events and situations only in the light of their effect upon myself is to live on the doorstep of hell.
Thomas Merton
Posted by: BumperStickerist at August 31, 2010 06:30 AM (Hj0nA)
Gerry, I make that point in my talks with GOP and Tea Party groups: Don't waste time and effort trying to elect a Republican in a Democrat district. It's the proverbial square peg.
By some estimates, 85 percent of districted seats (state and Congressional) are decided in the primary; the general election is a foregone conclusion.
However, organized primary voters can replace a 90 ADA Democrat with a 60 or 70 ADA Democrat who at least votes right on critical issues. Even the threat of a primary challenger can push the 90 Dem toward the center.
And in GOP districts, a RINO can be ousted in the primary by organized, conservative voters.
That's because only 10 percent of registered voters show up for primaries. Organize just 1-2 percentage points, and you tip it.
Posted by: Michael Smith at August 31, 2010 06:32 AM (niGh7)
They do this rather than accepting at face value the hard won expertise being shared.
You seem to be one of them.
The biggest group of these people that I encounter with this trait are the "Parents without Progeny" - these are the people who extol on all issues of child-rearing without having gone to the trouble of having, you know, kids.
The second biggest group like this are the guys sitting at the Gas-n-Sip on a Saturday night talking about girls.
Michael took the time and trouble to layout some plans on how to accomplish something, based on having actually done something.
I hope ace bumps this several times -
morons like we am need several repettions.
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Posted by: BumperStickerist at August 31, 2010 07:08 AM (Hj0nA)
Your entree into the thread:
Sorry, Mikey - all the information gathering in the world can't beat gerryandering - I wasted a couple of minutes skimming that advice - and that's it for me.
Would that that were true. Unnecessary condescension in the salutation, mischaracterization of the point of Michael's post, admission that you didn't read the piece, and a lack of realization on your part that fifty people can have an effect on a state representative, if not the Congressional one.
Unless you think that you're the sole conservative in your district.
Enjoy your solitude.
Posted by: BumperStickerist at August 31, 2010 12:19 PM (Hj0nA)
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