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August 19, 2010

Bush More Popular Than Obama In Potential Swing House Districts?
— DrewM

That's what one Democratic pollster is reportedly saying..

The advice from Democratic consultants and strategists is almost unanimous: Run away from the president, and fast. A prominent Democratic pollster is circulating a survey that shows George W. Bush is 6 points more popular than President Obama in "Frontline" districts -- seats held by Democrats that the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee sees as most vulnerable to Republican takeover. That Bush is more popular than Obama in Democratic-held seats is cause for outright fear.
..."He is a walking radioactive disaster," one senior Democratic operative said of the (current) president. But any effort to seriously distance oneself from Obama is dangerous for an incumbent; go too hard against the president and voters think the candidate is faking it.
"People know that a Democratic congressman will agree with a Democratic president more often than not, so the worst thing a candidate can do is manufacture differences with the president," said Phil Singer, a party strategist and former top aide to Hillary Rodham Clinton's presidential campaign. "Voters can spot a fake right away."
What's more, virtually every Democratic strategist agreed, if the president of the United States shows up in a candidate's home state, the candidate should show up too. Dodging Obama by claiming a scheduling conflict only breeds more stories about how much of a drag he is, and about how desperate Democrats are to avoid him.

The link above is to Jim Geraghty's piece but follow though to the Roll Call story where this came from and see how the Democrats are simply in damage control/survival mode at this point.

"How is this possible? What about my leg?"

The Democrats in 2010 are like a slow motion train wreck, there's no stopping it, but we'll have to wait just a bit longer to see how big the explosion and resulting damage is. I can't wait to find out.

Posted by: DrewM at 06:32 AM | Comments (90)
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1 You can count me as one who would trade my left nut for Bush to be still in office.

Posted by: Timbo at August 19, 2010 06:34 AM (ph9vn)

2 LOL, F&F had one of their infamous panel discussions this morning. I expected the normal Dem lies.

I was shocked, both people said the Dems were running away from OBama as fast as they could.

Posted by: Vic at August 19, 2010 06:34 AM (/jbAw)

"Voters can spot a fake right away"?

Huh.

Coulda fooled me!

Posted by: Barbarausa at August 19, 2010 06:35 AM (gRgC6)

4 Oops, didn't mean to italics that first sentence.

Posted by: Vic at August 19, 2010 06:35 AM (/jbAw)

I guess they really are starting to miss him.

Posted by: Walsingham at August 19, 2010 06:35 AM (dCigj)

I can't wait to find out.

That's my standard line to lib acquaintances nowadays. "Are you looking forward to November 2? I sure am."

Chris Matthews wince usually ensues.

Posted by: Bat Chain Puller at August 19, 2010 06:37 AM (SCcgT)

7 Posted on the other thread, but worth noting again. CC is at 51% job approval.

TRENTON Â— A majority of New Jersey voters approve of Gov. Chris Christie's job performance, according to a Quinnipiac University poll released this morning.

Fifty-one percent of voters approve of Christie, while 36 percent disapprove. ThatÂ’s a major jump from the last Quinnipiac poll, taken on June 17, when 44 percent approved and 43 percent disapprov

Posted by: Radioactive Satellite Of LOVE at August 19, 2010 06:37 AM (LdYLm)

8 Hell, I miss Bush. Especially watching the troops leaving Iraq. He would have probably been standing right there on the Kuwait border welcoming them and congratulating them on their victory.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 19, 2010 06:38 AM (UOM48)

9 *rubs hands together*

It's all coming together quite nicely. Oh, yes.

Posted by: Jeb Bush at August 19, 2010 06:41 AM (pUfK9)

10 Miss me yet?

Posted by: Cthulhu at August 19, 2010 06:42 AM (H4ul5)

11 9 *rubs hands together*

It's all coming together quite nicely. Oh, yes.

Posted by: Jeb Bush at August 19, 2010 10:41 AM (pUfK9)

Umm, no spank you, very much

Posted by: Radioactive Satellite Of LOVE at August 19, 2010 06:42 AM (LdYLm)

12 What is best in life?

To crush the Dem incumbents, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of Barney Frank.

Posted by: Tushar at August 19, 2010 06:43 AM (DRC3Q)

13 There was a vid of President Bush and the First Lady welcoming home the troops going around that was simply perfect.

Posted by: Unclefacts, AoSHQ Pro Debate Team, Bacon Raconteur at August 19, 2010 06:44 AM (eCAn3)

14 "Voters can spot a fake right away."

ORLY?

Posted by: Barack "Fiscal Hawk" Obama at August 19, 2010 06:46 AM (31pnY)

Surprise!!!

No longer unexpected. It's now a surprise.

http://tinyurl.com/28wjfag

That totally changes things.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at August 19, 2010 06:46 AM (RkRxq)

Barry: Wait till I recharge my batteries on my vacation then I'll show you a thing or two. Everyone will love me again!

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 19, 2010 06:46 AM (1Jaio)

17 8-Yes, he would. I may be wrong, but once we engaged in hostilities after 9/11, didn't Bush spend at least one holiday a year with the troops? I remember Thanksgiving 2004, but I thought he tried to go to the zone fairly often. More than we can say for the current inhabiter of the White House. Yet he will take credit for the end of the Iraq theater, and still leave 50,000 people there. Less protected and less trained people, since they are supposed to be civilians. Where the hell does State get off having an "army?

Posted by: moki at August 19, 2010 06:47 AM (dZmFh)

18 Hey, you don't want to go back to the old Bush policies that put us in the ditch, right? Right?

Posted by: Barry the Magnificent at August 19, 2010 06:47 AM (aN5sE)

and to hear the lamentation of Barney Frank.

uhhhhhh Tush, no thanks on that last part... maybe Zombie Ted?

Posted by: The Great Satan's Ghost at August 19, 2010 06:47 AM (cU9JW)

20 Interesting thing to me is that 90% of the Republican leadership has not been a part of this bounce-back. This is simply a nation-wide blowback to the liberal agenda.

Maybe 2012 will be Fred Thompson's year...

Posted by: GergS at August 19, 2010 06:49 AM (rHj53)

21
The scary fact is - OMG - When Bush was president, unemployment was low.
We had jobs.
We had confidence.
Businesses (lg & small) were not scared to death Of Nazi Pelosi's tax payer funded health care hell.

Fannie and Freddie hadn't collapsed yet. Republicans sounded the warning bells-- over and over. Over Barney Frank's insistence that "nothing was wrong" at Fannie and Freddie. Turns out - those evil Republicans were right.

People are waking up.

Nazi Pelosi wants an investigation. How dare Americans not adore her crazy insane radical agenda.

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at August 19, 2010 06:50 AM (0fzsA)

22 You can count me as one who would trade my left nut for Bush to be still in office.

Wouldn't that knock of the rhythm of the 'ol shuffle and tug?

Posted by: Alec Leamas at August 19, 2010 06:50 AM (r1OG3)

23 And pay no attention to the Drudge headline about my muslim faith. I was totally born in Hawaii, too.

Posted by: Barry the Magnificent at August 19, 2010 06:50 AM (aN5sE)

Blup!

'What's that?' you ask, why, it is the sound of liberals' heads exploding.

It would sound more spectacular, if there were more contents in them.

Posted by: always right at August 19, 2010 06:51 AM (UzjcV)

25 I said last night and I'll say it again. If Toonces holds a presser from the Vineyard to take credit for the Iraq war victory, my head will explode. I'll have to send myself to the camps.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 19, 2010 06:52 AM (UOM48)

26 Why don't the Dems just declare victory and call it a day? Why don't they all just retire, leaving the field with red flags flying, hammers and sickles flashing in the sunlight? Why bother to worry that the turkey Obama may be draped around their necks like the Ancient Mariner's albatross? They've accomplished everything they've ever dreamed of -- they have destroyed our medical system, they have wrecked our "evil" capitalist economy, wrecked individual home ownership, and have locked us into the emergence of their Ideal Society -- East Germany circa 1952.

Posted by: Minnie Rodent at August 19, 2010 06:52 AM (PZLW0)

Barry: Look you bitter clingers, do you want the car in (D) or (R)? You've seen how well Recovery Summer is going. I've exhausted myself getting the country in the shape its in. And this is the thanks I get? Screw you I'm going to Martha's Vineyard to be with people who appreciate all I've done

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 19, 2010 06:53 AM (1Jaio)

28 15

Surprise!!!

No longer unexpected. It's now a surprise.

-------------

Is that the change I was supposed to be hoping for? From "unexpected" to "surprise"?

Posted by: Anachronda at August 19, 2010 06:54 AM (6fER6)

29 The Chrissy screen grab will never get old.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August 19, 2010 06:55 AM (NvFZs)

30 Bush's greater popularity is Bush's fault.

Posted by: FireHorse at August 19, 2010 06:55 AM (cQyWA)

31 How bad is it for Dems out there? Check out these polls from the 4th and 5th Congressional District in "deep blue" Connecticut:

CD-4 Himes (D) 46% - Debicella (R) 42%
CD-5 Murphy (D) 49% - Greenberg (R)39%

Both incumbents are sub 50% and the R challengers are within 10%. Debicella is only 4%, almost a statistical dead heat. Himes beat Chris Shays by a slim margin in 2008 to get the seat. Both challengers have only just won their primary and are just beginning to really campaign.

Posted by: Rocks at August 19, 2010 06:55 AM (Q1lie)

32 i think chris's tingle down his leg has turned into a tinkle down his leg

Posted by: phoenixgirl at August 19, 2010 06:56 AM (rr5XB)

33 slow-mo train wreck? No, the wreck was legislation passed so fast, noone knew what was in it; spending that was insane

Posted by: joeindc44 at August 19, 2010 06:56 AM (QxSug)

34 Hey, you don't want to go back to the old Bush policies that put us in the ditch, right? Right?

Hey Barry if you wouldn't have traded in our 4X4 SUV for a Volt we would already be back on the road.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at August 19, 2010 06:56 AM (tf9Ne)

Heh, CNN. Sidebar story headline, "Don't Worry About a Double Dip Recession", subtitled "How to survive the economic "rough patch"....

Posted by: Mr. Dave at August 19, 2010 06:57 AM (bhcQe)

36 God, these elitists are complete idiots- which is great for us. Mark Haynes of CNBC, resident Republican basher, is on now telling us we're undertaxed in comparison to - wait for it!- other countries. Their utter contempt for our economic welfare is sowing the seeds for November and they are too arrogant to even consider it.

Posted by: jjshaka at August 19, 2010 06:57 AM (otkhx)

37 Hey you all remember how awesome I am, right? The adoring crowds in Berlin? The light shining down from above and the voice telling you to vote for Barack? How you cheered when I promised to lower the standard of living so none of you could heat your own homes? Hope?
...
What comes after hope?
Stupid teleprompter on the fritz, hang on all get right back to ya...

Posted by: Barry the Magnificent at August 19, 2010 06:59 AM (aN5sE)

38 BTW Ace,
Debicella is a great guy and has a real shot at winning in a deep blue state. He easily falls into your 31-60 range.

Posted by: Rocks at August 19, 2010 06:59 AM (Q1lie)

39 I'll ...
d'oh

Posted by: Barry the Magnificent at August 19, 2010 07:01 AM (aN5sE)

40 Maybe a vacation or two will bring back the magic.

Posted by: dfbaskwill at August 19, 2010 07:01 AM (usjNq)

41 The dems are in a case of utter collapse. It's about time too. Man November can't come soon enough!

I'll be looking to replace my idiot congressman Ciro Rodriguez. My district has a Republican advantage and his seat is very vulnerable.

Posted by: JC at August 19, 2010 07:02 AM (l8hGG)

42 It's really a shame that Bush so poisoned the political atmosphere that he's more popular than Obama in all those districts we're trying to defend.

Posted by: Clueless Lib Hack at August 19, 2010 07:02 AM (aN5sE)

43 "and to hear the lisping lamentation of the sashaying Barney Frank." (NTTAWWT)

Posted by: dfbaskwill at August 19, 2010 07:03 AM (usjNq)

44 A few days ago one of you bloggers wrote an entry about elites taking controversial stands just because it is the opposite of the 'common stand. I can't find it anywhere in the archives....Can anyone tell me what heading it is under???

Posted by: tillurdizzy at August 19, 2010 07:04 AM (5XDw7)

45 whoa, spam from hell

Posted by: The Great Satan's Ghost at August 19, 2010 07:06 AM (cU9JW)

46 @27 - Look, you bitter clingers, do you want the car in (D) or (R)?

Um, Barry, right now it's stuck in P, but then it's a Government Motors transmission.

Posted by: Minnie Rodent at August 19, 2010 07:07 AM (PZLW0)

47 But Intrade has Obama up by 20%!!!!!!

_{What? You thought I'd take a break? Surely you jest.}

Posted by: In before the troll at August 19, 2010 07:10 AM (P9+0W)

48 Idiot of Fox in response to 'are we in a recovery?'... 'Its a fault patch'....'to be expected'....

Posted by: Timbo at August 19, 2010 07:14 AM (ph9vn)

49 @34

That you, Tiffany Russo?

Posted by: Minnie Rodent at August 19, 2010 07:14 AM (PZLW0)

50 ace wrote about the pathology of elitists, but I think it might have been in the intro to an open thread. I don't see any title that look like it in the archives.

Posted by: Methos at August 19, 2010 07:17 AM (aN5sE)

51 I think Admiral Akbar has some advice. Seriously, I don't doubt the GOP can eff this like a chicken on a local newscast.

Posted by: blaster at August 19, 2010 07:18 AM (SdFa6)

52 The Hammer knows, too.

Posted by: blaster at August 19, 2010 07:19 AM (SdFa6)

53 "Voters can spot a fake right away."

Oh yeah? Then why did 52% vote for him in the first place?

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at August 19, 2010 07:20 AM (eNxMU)

54 _{What? You thought I'd take a break? Surely you jest.}

Posted by: In before the troll

No, no we didn't think that.

And stop calling us Shirley.

Posted by: Blue Hen at August 19, 2010 07:22 AM (R2fpr)

55 Pissy Chrissie is back with the trickle down his leg!!

Posted by: CUS at August 19, 2010 07:22 AM (wOGfT)

56 What comes after hope?

Posted by: Barry the Magnificent at August 19, 2010 10:59 AM (aN5sE)

Crosby

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 19, 2010 07:23 AM (1Jaio)

57 Found it. One of the articles about the Al Qaeda victory mosque.

Posted by: Methos at August 19, 2010 07:23 AM (aN5sE)

58 I have tried and tried to turn my Bush Countdown Clock keychain BACK to when Dubyah was POTUS but it isnt working :0( hoist by my own recovering Dem petard, yep,

Although I voted MAC Palin so I have that when the reality of the Jackasses running the show in DC seeps through the wall I have built between myself and any idiot still drinking kool aid...

but I havent seen more than 2 such hopeless cases, although I am proselytizing peeps to vote GOP so hard they may be hiding their Obama love under a bushel as it were..

CAN NOT WAIT FOR NOVEMBER

And PS How those Obama magical coattails working out for ya you POS Dem SuperDelegates? frakking frakkers...grumble grumble

Posted by: mim/ginaswo at August 19, 2010 07:28 AM (Fx2Fv)

59 where's michelle's mother?

Posted by: phoenixgirl at August 19, 2010 07:29 AM (rr5XB)

60

where's michelle's mother?

Didn't she just finish up with jury duty?

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 19, 2010 07:31 AM (P9+0W)

you are an ill tempered cur aren't you?

Posted by: phoenixgirl at August 19, 2010 07:32 AM (rr5XB)

62 I guess that "we're gonna run against Bush again" option isn't looking so good now.

Posted by: Dave in Texas at August 19, 2010 07:32 AM (WvXvd)

63 Didn't Sarah Palin make a typo at Facebook today or something?

Posted by: MainstreamBubblehead at August 19, 2010 07:33 AM (X6a9o)

64 Wow...this is like porn. So awesome.

Posted by: frode at August 19, 2010 07:34 AM (TdgA9)

this should help those poll numbers

http://tinyurl.com/28l76dd

feeling stimulated yet?

Posted by: dananjcon at August 19, 2010 07:43 AM (pr+up)

66 I guess they really are starting to miss him.

I know why we didn't much care for Bush at times, but we're hyperpartisan ideologues. People have to be asking themselves, "Why was Bush so bad?" He was a warmonger? Well, I don't know what was so great about the Taliban and Saddam Hussein that that was a bad idea, but the troops that were sent to actually do the job loved him. All of the reasons we morons were disappointed we knew would be much worse under a Democrat.

So why did they really hate him in the first place?

I knew this would happen. The hate for him was overblown and irrational and ginned up by the leftist media and their own issues.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 19, 2010 07:43 AM (T0NGe)

67 What comes after hope?

I think that it is hope, denial, anger, bargaining, depression, and acceptance.

Posted by: WalrusRex at August 19, 2010 07:46 AM (xxgag)

68 The Chrissy screen grab will never get old.

No shit, we need to animate it Conan O'Brien style.

Posted by: jimmuy at August 19, 2010 07:48 AM (jXG2x)

69 The look on Chrissy "Tingle Leg" Matthews' face says it all...

Posted by: Sue Nommy at August 19, 2010 07:58 AM (lUV0r)

"Voters can spot a fake right away."

And yet they didn't have a problem voting for him to be President.

Posted by: Red Rocks Rockin' at August 19, 2010 08:02 AM (/Pw+r)

71 "How is this possible? What about my leg?"

That tingling feeling he felt was actually a stream of urine running down his leg, courtesy of Obie.

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at August 19, 2010 08:03 AM (l2E44)

If we can get Teh Won' besotted minions Outta the driver's seat, we can get the economy back into (O)verdrive.

Fuel injection is nice but I'd rather be blown! ('scuze me, AA, it's just an old drag-racer's joke...)

Posted by: Clutch at August 19, 2010 08:06 AM (X67eL)

73 Some people are born to leader and an event finds them,
for others an event find them and they rise to the challenge and lead.
Obama is neither of these.

Posted by: Neo at August 19, 2010 08:11 AM (tE8FB)

you are an ill tempered cur aren't you?

Posted by: phoenixgirl at August 19, 2010 11:32 AM (rr5XB)

I have mange as well.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 19, 2010 08:23 AM (P9+0W)

I think by this point people would think salmonella was better than obie -one.

Posted by: vivi at August 19, 2010 08:23 AM (84HQT)

"Voters can spot a fake right away."

Well I know of 60 million Americans who spotted the fake back in 2008. The problem is that 70 million didnt, until it was too late.

Posted by: mike d at August 19, 2010 08:26 AM (W0V5W)

77 "He is a walking radioactive disaster," one senior Democratic operative said of the (current) president. Good thing he's a "Person of Color;" he'll fit right in when he melts down, burning his way thru the Earth all the way to China... Idea for his reelection slogan: Obama 2012: The China Syndrome!

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 19, 2010 08:30 AM (tJjm/)

78 It gladdens me when I see Chris Matthews' chubby pink face all sad.

Posted by: Mikey NTH at August 19, 2010 08:57 AM (O9Cc8)

79 "How is this possible? What about my leg?"

Hmmm, looks more like his hemorrhoids are acting up to me...

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at August 19, 2010 08:59 AM (PMGbu)

80 Of course they miss Bush! Back then they could focus all of the hatred on him, now all of the hatred is focused on their guy and they aren't liking that one bit.

Posted by: Mikey NTH at August 19, 2010 09:06 AM (O9Cc8)

81 Let me be clear. The difference between now and 1994 is that you have me... and the stern, pursed lipped stare I give when I'm letting the bitter clingers know how things are going to be.

So make no mistake. The time for debate about whether I'm a failure is over.

I won.

So, again, let me be clear. I will say "let me be clear" as many times as needed until everyone is clear about how awesome I am when I say "let me be clear."

Let me be clear. Saying "let me be clear" is a bad-assed rhetorical device that makes me look like a real tough-guy. Make no mistake about that.

Also, we cannot return to the failed policies of the past 8 years. This much is clear.

I personally have saved 10 million jobs with my stimulus. You'd think you'd be thanking me, that's what you'd think.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm flying to Chicago with Michelle for some ice cream.

Posted by: President Affirmative Action at August 19, 2010 09:10 AM (fE6tn)

"Voters can spot a fake right away."

Did anybody else fing this line ludicrous?

Posted by: katya, the designated driver at August 19, 2010 09:13 AM (hsBue)

fing = find

gah

Posted by: katya, the designated driver at August 19, 2010 09:18 AM (hsBue)

Some people are born to lead and an event finds them,
for others an event find them and they rise to the challenge and lead.

Still others were identified by communist talent spotters at an early age and convoyed to leadership by Red apparatchiks who stage-managed their lives more than a Milli Vanilli concert.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 19, 2010 09:47 AM (XYxVY)

85 Phil Singer: "Voters can spot a fake right away."

Heh. Voters are savvy enough to ascertain appropriate and subtle distancing of candidates to the President: not enough and they're indistinguishable, too much and they're "faking" it. Why, look Everyone! It's Congressman Goldilocks! And he picked the perfect oatmeal!

Good grief. America could've had Mama Grizzly and it selected mush. That's how keen America's eyesight can be.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at August 19, 2010 09:48 AM (swuwV)

86 AmishDude: "So why did they really hate him [Bush] in the first place?"

I think there were three biggies. The "Bush Lied" lie/conspiracy of the MFM about war was ingrained. Congressional spending under the guise of Compassionate Conservatism got out of hand, especially when the Democrats were allowed to write the laws. And illegal immigration/amnesty policy.

The first was a virtual crime committed by the media and the Democrats. The last two were of Bush's own doing. Note that those latter two issues are dogging the Democrats now. Big spending and the "comprehensive" POS will take down any government.

There were zillions of policies and themes to consider, but those really stood out to me.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at August 19, 2010 10:03 AM (swuwV)

87 It would be interesting to revisit those pundits who were saying that conservatism is dead after the '08 election.

Posted by: rdbrewer at August 19, 2010 10:09 AM (t0jpM)

88 Yes, we miss him.

Posted by: America at August 19, 2010 10:13 AM (PQY7w)

89 If voters could spot a fake right away we wouldn't have Obambi in office

Posted by: ElephantTusks at August 19, 2010 10:23 AM (zCaeV)

90 My President is Laura Roslin.

Posted by: SGT Dan at August 19, 2010 10:50 AM (GgXZc)

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