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November 27, 2010

CA and Embryonic Stem Cell Research [CDR M]
— Open Blogger

Back in 2004, California passed proposition 71 which was to spend $3 Billion dollars towards Embryonic Stem Cell Research. Today, there are multiple articles discussing how it has essentially been a money pit so far with no tangible results. In fact, it starts to sound like the dreary pap you get from global warming supporters that need more money for something that might take decades to come to fruition if ever.

Some six years later, with about $1.1 billion dispersed, there have been $270 million worth of impressive new labs built, research papers published, and respected scientists hired at exorbitant salaries, but no miracle cures or even marketable therapies. And none is likely for years, if not decades, to come. The promised financial payback for the financially strapped citizens of California is also far off.

Source: IBD Stem Cell Fraud

Emotions and anti-Bush feelings passed this proposition back in 2004 and the adult stem cell research has been far more successful to date than embryonic stem cell research. In 2014, these same people that wanted Proposition 71 passed are coming back for more money for research with little to no return on investment, unless you get paid to build new labs and "work" at said labs. Now I've seen various numbers for the number of successful treatments derived from adult stem cell research from around 70 up to 138. I'm not aware of a single treatment yet derived from embryonic stem cell research. I'm no expert in this (remember I put warheads on foreheads) but as a taxpayer (an investor so to speak) this does not seem to be a wise area to invest more money in.

More articles:
Yahoo News: California's Embryonic Boom Goes Bust

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1 Isn't Jerry "Governor Moonbeam" Brown a product of step cell research?

Posted by: CoolCzech at November 27, 2010 02:23 PM (tJjm/)

2 I said it before and I'll say it always: Liberals don't give a crap about miracle cures due to stem cell research. Their beef with the ban on federal funding had everything to do with the insinuation that there is something morally not right about ABORTION. Take abortion out of the picture, and liberals would cut stem cell research just as easily as they did NASA's Constellation Project.

Posted by: CoolCzech at November 27, 2010 02:26 PM (tJjm/)

3 Adult stem cell tech is revolutioning childhood leukemia treatment.

Posted by: toby928™ at November 27, 2010 02:37 PM (S5YRY)

4 Yes indeed! I get excited every time I hear something in the news about adult stem cells showing promise, and every time I hear about embryonic stem cells NOT showing promise. Life is sacred. Even people who are not Christian understand this.

Posted by: wakeupcall at November 27, 2010 02:40 PM (ZLZjp)

5 Something to ponder on. Out of all the stem cell therapies available now that DO benefit folks with before untreatable afflictions..... ..... care to guess how many come from embryonic stem cell research??????? Give you a hint. Its the only integer that begins with a "z".

Posted by: fixerupper at November 27, 2010 02:41 PM (ffV1/)

6 George Bush doesn't care about science.

Posted by: John Edwards backstage at The Maury Povich Show at November 27, 2010 02:45 PM (0IR+C)

7 Its the only integer that begins with a "z".

zillion?

Posted by: Joe Biden, PhD at November 27, 2010 02:47 PM (PSzeI)

8 Vice Presidential candidate John Edwards* captured public attention in [2004] speaking just after the death of the actor Christopher Reeve, who had suffered severe injury in an equestrian accident. Edwards famously said, Â“If we do the work that we can do in this country, the work that we will do when John Kerry is president, people like Christopher Reeve are going to walk again. Get up out of that wheelchair and walk again.Â”

Ah, found the problem. People forgot to elect John Kerry president.

*Edwards then said, "and if any of you ladies need some fetal stem cells to work with, maybe I can help out *wink*"

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 27, 2010 02:50 PM (6bDVD)

9 Oh great, the atrocity channel!

Posted by: Marty McFly sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-shakin' at November 27, 2010 02:53 PM (0IR+C)

10 If we do the work that we can do in this country, the work that we will do when John Kerry is president, people like Christopher Reeve are going to walk again. Get up out of that wheelchair and walk again.

*beep beeeeeeep*

Posted by: Captain Christopher Pike at November 27, 2010 02:54 PM (F5Gxy)

I voted against this boondoggle. As usual, my vote was buried by millions of dummies who believe that empty promises are the same thing as results.

In 2004, I thought it was way too early to predict what direction stem cell research would take, way too early to commit this kind of money. I anticipated that this would end up being a vehicle for handing out political favors. I ocnsiderd the idea that the state would have any kind of economic boom as a result was preposterous.

A few people are doing just fine as a result of this idiotic bill. It's just that, they are doing well by either doling out the funding or by receiving it. Nothing has been discovered and nobody has been cured of anything. I expect more of the same non-results in the future.

Posted by: Wm T Sherman at November 27, 2010 02:55 PM (5YgO+)

12 10 Isn't Jerry "Governor Moonbeam" Brown a product of step cell research? No. He's a byproduct of human clowning. Posted by: andycanuck at November 27, 2010 06:50 PM (ocvEI) I tried warning you guys, Giant Rodents with Fully Functioning Human Brains! I told you, I told you! But would you listen? NO!!!! You wouldn't listen to me, would you? Would you???

Posted by: Christine O'Donnel at November 27, 2010 02:56 PM (tJjm/)

13 Sanger was such an evil cunt, the sock is hard to pull off without looking like a racist prick yourself. Protip: don't use racial slurs

Posted by: Blackford Oakes at November 27, 2010 02:56 PM (0IR+C)

14 I strongly opposed 71 back in the day on the grounds that government had no role. But Californians will vote for any pie in the sky notion liberals pitch at them.

It's really tiresome. We have supposedly educated people in this state who think cell phone towers are going to give their kids brain cancer. We have scads of college students who believe in global warming. We have people who think the only kind of stem cells are those from embryos, and believed that George Bush had banned all stem cell research.

And the news media only reports things that reinforce these ideas. Local stations have gotten so bad that it's impossible to watch the news.

Posted by: Dianna at November 27, 2010 02:56 PM (mKMj1)

15
"I passionately believe there will be some remarkable new therapies that will save lives and mitigate suffering substantially," Klein said during an interview in the gleaming new stem cell research building at his alma mater, Stanford University, which was partially funded by a $43-million grant from the stem cell program.

Of the roughly $1.1 billion committed from the agency's budget so far, Stanford has received more than any other institution, just under $176 million, according to the agency's website. UCLA is second with $135 million, and UC San Francisco is third with $111 million. All three schools have direct representation on the agency's board; the deans of their medical schools are voting members.

In all, $930 million has gone to institutions with faculty or administrators on the board.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 27, 2010 02:56 PM (6bDVD)

16 If you understand Boondoggle Mathematics it goes like this,
We'll take a billion(a) dollars as an example....
One billion in spending results in the transfer of taxpayer funds (yet to be collected) to political insiders and folks who will "Play Ball".
Those political insiders then donate to campaigns and P.A.C.s from their exorbitant largesse at a graft rate(b) of 10% to 15%
Those monies fund political campaigns where more promises and back room deals are made to propose new boondoggles the perpetuate the cycle.
That the programs have never delivered what they were proposed is of absolutely no political consequence because the propagandists(c) are allowed access to the politicians and made to feel important and any who have a conscience(d) are driven from journalism and hounded relentlessly.

(a * b) + (c - d) = ∞

Posted by: Mr Wizard at November 27, 2010 02:57 PM (H+LJc)

17 "I considered the idea that the state would have any kind of economic boom as a result to be preposterous."

Posted by: Wm T Sherman at November 27, 2010 02:57 PM (5YgO+)

18 Another sore point has been the high salaries paid to top administrators, who handle a staff of about 50. In 2009, President Alan Trounson, a renowned stem cell scientist from Australia, was paid $490,000, the second highest salary in state government outside the university system, records show.

By comparison, the governor's salary, which Arnold Schwarzenegger declines, is $173,987, and the governor is responsible for oversight of more than 200,000 state employees.

In the research realm, Francis S. Collins, director of the federal government's National Institutes of Health which employs more than 17,000 people and invests $32.5 billion in medical research each year, makes $199,700, said spokesman Don Ralbovsky. Collins is one of the nation's best known genetics researchers.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 27, 2010 02:58 PM (6bDVD)

19 *Edwards then said, "and if any of you ladies need some fetal stem cells to work with, maybe I can help out *wink*" Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 27, 2010 06:50 PM (6bDVD) Good thing your Secret Cervix comes with a Squid Beak, Laurie!

Posted by: CoolCzech at November 27, 2010 02:58 PM (tJjm/)

20 Sanger was such an evil cunt, the sock is hard to pull off without looking like a racist prick yourself.

Yep. Joe Mengele's got nothing on that bitch.

Posted by: toby928™ at November 27, 2010 02:58 PM (S5YRY)

21 They not only should not get any more money, the funds that haven't been spent should be impounded.

Posted by: Wm T Sherman at November 27, 2010 03:00 PM (5YgO+)

22 The promised financial payback for the financially strapped citizens stupid cockholsters of California is also far off just about what a thinking person would have expected.

fify

Posted by: Peaches at November 27, 2010 03:04 PM (zxpIo)

23 It ist zee Ice Road Truckers veek. I haff Thonksgiving Veek ov, dummkopf.

Ok, work with me here. How about Nazi Ice Road Truckers? I smell a new hit!

Posted by: Alex at November 27, 2010 03:05 PM (yY28H)

24 Ok, work with me here. How about ZOMBIENazi Ice Road Truckers? I smell a new hit! Posted by: Alex at November 27, 2010 07:05 PM (yY28H) There! I think that could work!!

Posted by: CoolCzech at November 27, 2010 03:06 PM (tJjm/)

25 BTW, your president has no nose.

Posted by: adolf hilter

How does he smell?

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 27, 2010 03:08 PM (6bDVD)

26
CC is right.

It's just like how the Left doesn't give a shit about the global warming. They know it's a farce but they go along with it because its a vehicle in which to destroy capitalism and the Western way of life.

Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at November 27, 2010 03:09 PM (Sl76L)

27 35 BTW, your president has no nose. Posted by: adolf hilter How does he smell? Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 27, 2010 07:08 PM (6bDVD) Like Moochelle, IYKWIM.

Posted by: CoolCzech at November 27, 2010 03:09 PM (tJjm/)

28 After the Pope loses his control of congress we'll start seeing real advances in stem cell technology.

Posted by: Christoph at November 27, 2010 03:10 PM (7+pP9)

29 Hold on one second. Let's get this straight. Marty is YOUR kid, not mine. And all the money embryonic stem cells in the world wouldn't do jack shit for that lazy bum!

Posted by: Dystopian Timeline Biff Tannen at November 27, 2010 03:12 PM (0IR+C)

30
Posted by: Christoph

wow brah you're really becoming a master puppeteer

But I'm worried -- I imagine you sitting in front of your pc, with lots of post-it notes around with the names of everyone who has been at AoS.

Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at November 27, 2010 03:13 PM (Sl76L)

31
And you jot down short bios of us, too.

Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at November 27, 2010 03:14 PM (fFMjt)

"What California did [by launching CIRM], in my view it ignited an arms race, and other states have seen this and see the need for it," Bruce Conklin, senior investigator at the UCSF Gladstone Institute said. "Texas passed a CIRM-like bill, but that was focused on cancer research. My guess is that this is a beginning, that other states will see this kind of thing as essential for their regional competitiveness."

The difference will be, Conklin said, that those states aren't California. "When [researchers] come here," Conklin said, "they'll stay. Not so much in Alabama or Texas or places like that. In California, we have golden handcuffs -- because California's just a seductively wonderful place to be."

"Hey. where'd everybody go?"

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 27, 2010 03:14 PM (6bDVD)

33 The difference will be, Conklin said, that those states aren't California. "When [researchers] come here," Conklin said, "they'll stay. Not so much in Alabama or Texas or places like that. In California, we have golden handcuffs -- because California's just a seductively wonderful place to be."

Uh huh. See ya.

Posted by: The TV and Film Industry at November 27, 2010 03:17 PM (F5Gxy)

34 The difference will be, Conklin said, that those states aren't California. "When [researchers] come here," Conklin said, "they'll stay. Not so much in Alabama or Texas or places like that. In California, we have golden handcuffs -- because California's just a seductively wonderful place to be." Right. Between the Crips and Bloods periodically burning down LA, the place about to either fall into the ocean or turn into Mexico, and the return of Governor Moonbeam... Why would anyone wanna leave?

Posted by: CoolCzech at November 27, 2010 03:18 PM (tJjm/)

35 I didn't vote for it. And it was entirely predictable it would be a waste of money. I got into a big fight with commenters on Roger Simon's blog about it at the time. I should dig up those old posts and track those assholes down.

Posted by: Moi at November 27, 2010 03:18 PM (Ez4Ql)

Gee, I guess they thought that all those successes they had with the embryonic stem cell lines that were continuing to be the basis for reasearch during the Bush years gave them cover to start new lines.

Oh, wait. No successes there? So they could only find cures or advancement in NEW lines funded by the Govt after the anti-science president left? THOSE would provide fruitful?

No, killing babies doesn't help with science after all? I'm sure they just haven't got the right embryo yet. I hope that if they do find a cure for Parkinson's from adult stem cells that Michael J Fox has the decency to apologize. And Kerry and Edwards. And all the other tools.

Posted by: dagny at November 27, 2010 03:19 PM (Ulcs6)

37 But Californians will vote for any pie in the sky notion liberals pitch at them.

There was a town in So Cal that decided to spend millions building a facility to recycle diapers. I wonder how they're doing...

Posted by: MamaAJ at November 27, 2010 03:20 PM (XdlcF)

38 Hmmm. "Golden Handcuffs." Do you wear those for your "Golden Shower?"

Posted by: CoolCzech at November 27, 2010 03:20 PM (tJjm/)

39 Another liberal morality crusade that is really just a facade to looting of the treasury.

Posted by: nickless© at November 27, 2010 03:20 PM (MMC8r)

40 @49: it's a shitty job, but somebody has to do it.

Posted by: Town in So California at November 27, 2010 03:21 PM (tJjm/)

41 In fact, it starts to sound like the dreary pap you get from global warming supporters that need more money for something that might take decades to come to fruition if ever.

It's alchemy. We laugh at the Middle Age dunces that bought into that con game, but this fad science is exactly the same. Exactly the same.

Posted by: AmishDude at November 27, 2010 03:22 PM (BvBKY)

42 Wait... you mean Alchemy ain't scientific??

Posted by: CoolCzech at November 27, 2010 03:22 PM (tJjm/)

43 >>After the Pope loses his control of congress we'll start seeing real advances in stem cell technology.

wow brah you're really becoming a master puppeteer

That was good. Almost too good...

Posted by: Mama AJ at November 27, 2010 03:23 PM (XdlcF)

44 51 Another liberal morality crusade that is really just a facade to looting of the treasury. Posted by: nicklessÂ© at November 27, 2010 07:20 PM (MMC8r) Please don't use the C-word!

Posted by: CAIR at November 27, 2010 03:23 PM (tJjm/)

45 It's like they want to search for El Dorado but want us to fund the trip.

Posted by: dagny at November 27, 2010 03:24 PM (Ulcs6)

46 "Golden Handcuffs". Heh.

An apt metaphor for a state that's seriously considering imposing a 10% wealth tax on emigrants in an attempt to keep more people from leaving.

Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at November 27, 2010 03:24 PM (F5Gxy)

47 If I recall correctly, didn't New Jersey - yet another liberal fiscal disaster - ALSO allocate hundreds of millions to fund stem cell research? I sure hope Chris Christie put a stop to THAT.

Posted by: CoolCzech at November 27, 2010 03:25 PM (tJjm/)

48 BTW, what did the muslims call their rampage of death that converted or murdered millions after the pedophile left arabia? I'd like to know the word to counter the "crusade" argument.

Posted by: dagny at November 27, 2010 03:26 PM (Ulcs6)

49 An apt metaphor for a state that's seriously considering imposing a 10% wealth tax on emigrants in an attempt to keep more people from leaving.

Meh. Honey or vineger, it all tastes the same.

Posted by: AmishDude at November 27, 2010 03:26 PM (BvBKY)

50 it's a shitty job, but somebody has to do it.

Thanks, Santa Clarita.

Strangely enough, most of what I see when I google it isn't recent. I can't imagine that it didn't work out well in the end...

Posted by: Mama AJ at November 27, 2010 03:26 PM (XdlcF)

51 An apt metaphor for a state that's seriously considering imposing a 10% wealth tax on emigrants in an attempt to keep more people from leaving. Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at November 27, 2010 07:24 PM (F5Gxy) Could that even conceivably be constitutional?? Not that Liberals would allow that to stand in their way or anything.

Posted by: CoolCzech at November 27, 2010 03:26 PM (tJjm/)

Hey, I can dance up a storm now! Thanks, Californians!

Sorry about your financial problems.

Posted by: Christopher Reeve at November 27, 2010 03:28 PM (YzJI5)

53 Wow, a 10 percent "emigration tax." THAT will really spur interest in moving businesses to California, won't it? It's almost like Liberals are "progressing" to FEUDALISM. Pretty soon, they'll require people to secure government permission to move to the next town over.

Posted by: CoolCzech at November 27, 2010 03:28 PM (tJjm/)

54 60 BTW, what did the muslims call their rampage of death that converted or murdered millions after the pedophile left arabia?

I believe it is called "Islam" but I'm not sure.

Posted by: AmishDude at November 27, 2010 03:28 PM (BvBKY)

55 Of course:

A California state senator is proposing a levy on disposable diapers to fund recycling efforts.

Posted by: Mama AJ at November 27, 2010 03:28 PM (XdlcF)

Evening rons and ettes. Hope everyone had a great Thanksgiving. Mine was fabulous.

Posted by: jewells45 at November 27, 2010 03:29 PM (Z71Vg)

Amish dude -

Alchemy. I like it. Just add water and SEIU and you politically just made fools gold - The DNC.

Hey DNC, put that in your mortar and pestle and smoke it.

Posted by: Journolist at November 27, 2010 03:29 PM (LwLqV)

58 Mama AJ at #49 -

Probably not well. I can't imagine that would get past any planning board! The only force stronger in California than general moonbattery is NIMBYism.

Sometimes, the only hope is to set them in opposition to each other. I keep waiting for a proton-anti-proton reaction: Poof!

Posted by: Dianna at November 27, 2010 03:29 PM (mKMj1)

59 68 60 BTW, what did the muslims call their rampage of death that converted or murdered millions after the pedophile left arabia? We prefer to call it "nicking."

Posted by: American Pediatrist Association at November 27, 2010 03:30 PM (tJjm/)

60 67 Wow, a 10 percent "emigration tax." THAT will really spur interest in moving businesses to California, won't it?

All progressives' cameras are still cameras.

Posted by: AmishDude at November 27, 2010 03:31 PM (BvBKY)

CDR M - good work.

Posted by: Journolist at November 27, 2010 03:31 PM (LwLqV)

62 You know, it's kind of eerie how many moronettes don't start to post until after sundown...

Posted by: CoolCzech at November 27, 2010 03:31 PM (tJjm/)

63 78 You know, it's kind of eerie how many moronettes don't start to post until after sundown...

Like vampires.

Posted by: AmishDude at November 27, 2010 03:33 PM (BvBKY)

64 79 78 "You know, it's kind of eerie how many moronettes don't start to post until after sundown..." Like vampires. Posted by: AmishDude at November 27, 2010 07:33 PM (BvBKY) Yes, like in the Hammer horror flicks... with great big teeth and great big mammaries...

Posted by: CoolCzech at November 27, 2010 03:34 PM (tJjm/)

The elbow-to-the-lip culprit?

TOTUS

Posted by: laceyunderalls at November 27, 2010 03:35 PM (llr3t)

66 Heh:

One of our issues was that the waste haulers make more money land-filling than they do recycling these items and since used diapers are fairly heavy and weight equals profit, they surely did not want us removing diapers from there waste collection.

I'm not bothering to provide links to this crap. Not being I'm lazy or anything. Just not worth reading.

Posted by: Mama AJ at November 27, 2010 03:36 PM (XdlcF)

67 @81: is the sun down where you're at, Lacey?

Posted by: CoolCzech at November 27, 2010 03:37 PM (tJjm/)

68 Did I miss something? Who elbowed Jugears McFuckwit?

Posted by: jewells45 at November 27, 2010 03:37 PM (Z71Vg)

69 85 Did I miss something? Who elbowed Jugears McFuckwit? Posted by: jewells45 at November 27, 2010 07:37 PM (Z71Vg) Some member of the Hispanic caucus he was playing basketball with.

Posted by: CoolCzech at November 27, 2010 03:38 PM (tJjm/)

70 Like vampires.

Or people who are productive during daylight hours.

Posted by: Mama AJ at November 27, 2010 03:38 PM (XdlcF)

71 #83, Mama AJ

Oh, right. That was one of the more ridiculous things ever said with a straight face - even in California, which is saying something.

Posted by: Dianna at November 27, 2010 03:38 PM (mKMj1)

It's really tiresome. We have supposedly educated people in this state who think cell phone towers are going to give their kids brain cancer. We have scads of college students who believe in global warming. We have people who think the only kind of stem cells are those from embryos, and believed that George Bush had banned all stem cell research.

Preach it, sister. At least we've passed that $10 BN bond issue for the high speed rail link between LA and SF. That'll knock down traffic congestion through the lettuce fields from a car every 10 minutes to every 20 minutes. Well worth every penny.

Just be glad there hasn't yet been a $20 BN proposition to fund the Shirley MacLaine New Age Crystal and Pyramid Institute.

_{maybe I shouldn't have brought that up...nah, it's cool. Liberals probably don't read AoS.}

Posted by: Jay Guevara at November 27, 2010 03:38 PM (YzJI5)

Who elbowed Jugears McFuckwit?

The fat-lip/bball incident from yesterday.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at November 27, 2010 03:39 PM (llr3t)

74 Or people who are productive during daylight hours. Posted by: Mama AJ at November 27, 2010 07:38 PM (XdlcF) I don't remember you getting me my sammitch...

Posted by: CoolCzech at November 27, 2010 03:39 PM (tJjm/)

Some member of the Hispanic caucus he was playing basketball with.

LOL- any pics anywhere? This is the first I've heard. Haven't been on the computer much since Wednesday.

Posted by: jewells45 at November 27, 2010 03:40 PM (Z71Vg)

jewells, just google/bing - obama 12 stiches

you're bound to get a million hits.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at November 27, 2010 03:42 PM (llr3t)

77 I knew I should have defined "productive".

Posted by: Mama AJ at November 27, 2010 03:43 PM (XdlcF)

Wow. Twelve inches? Uh, I mean stitches?

Posted by: jewells45 at November 27, 2010 03:46 PM (Z71Vg)

79 Oh please, Dear Lord, let the ghouls who would canabalize the flesh of the unborn be bankrupted (further) by it.

Amen

Posted by: kidney at November 27, 2010 03:46 PM (ENRGu)

80 Who elbowed Jugears McFuckwit?

I did. He didn't have the courtesy to give me a reach around.

Posted by: Kal Penn at November 27, 2010 03:47 PM (oREHE)

81 Does this mean Bob Dole's stuck goin' lefty?

Posted by: Bob Dole at November 27, 2010 03:48 PM (0IR+C)

82 98 Wow. Twelve inches? Uh, I mean stitches? Posted by: jewells45 at November 27, 2010 07:46 PM (Z71Vg) My suspicion is the basketball story is just a cover. I think the truth is he asked Moochelle for oral.

Posted by: CoolCzech at November 27, 2010 03:48 PM (tJjm/)

My suspicion is the basketball story is just a cover. I think the truth is he asked Moochelle for oral.

Eeewwww!

Posted by: jewells45 at November 27, 2010 03:50 PM (Z71Vg)

84 Good night!

Posted by: Dianna at November 27, 2010 03:55 PM (mKMj1)

85 Who elbowed Jugears McFuckwit?

Me.

Posted by: kim jong il at November 27, 2010 03:55 PM (S5YRY)

86 That's what happens when you have to kiss the ground 5 times a day. Some days, the floor kisses back.

tee hee

Posted by: Peaches at November 27, 2010 03:57 PM (zxpIo)

Well getting ready to watch The Expendables.I'll be back for the ONT. Anybody have any good Thanksgiving stories?

Posted by: jewells45 at November 27, 2010 03:58 PM (Z71Vg)

88 Anybody have any good Thanksgiving stories?

13 dishes, not counting the meats or desserts. For eight people. My MIL is insane.

Posted by: toby928™ at November 27, 2010 04:01 PM (S5YRY)

89 Lemme' see if I got this straight...

Money from one entity (the taxpayer) though another entity (gov't & gov't grants) to a third entity (those running the institute - Bob Klein, etal.)

When Tom Delay does it, it's called "Money Laundering"

Posted by: franksalterego at November 27, 2010 04:06 PM (+6fgE)

Maybe they should study Ebonic stem cells.

Posted by: porgy tyrebiter at November 27, 2010 04:07 PM (pZQXv)

91 So, there have been some big stem cell breakthroughs, but they have been from "adult" stem cells as far as I can tell. So, what are all the killers upset about, let's just kill more progressives for needed stem cells - problem solved.

Posted by: Rob in Katy at November 27, 2010 04:21 PM (PiTBB)

92 let's just kill more progressives for needed stem cells - problem solved.

Posted by: Rob in Katy at November 27, 2010 08:21 PM (PiTBB)

As long as the genetics don't get in the way, I don't see any problem!

Posted by: ErikW at November 27, 2010 04:26 PM (tfNHk)

93 All you flat earthers are banned for daring to question Messrs. Edwards and Kerry regarding stem cell research. These men a re geniuses when it comes to medical sciences.

I bid you all adieu.

Posted by: Charlie the Johnson at November 27, 2010 04:40 PM (oREHE)

94 Leave medicine to medical men!

Posted by: Dr. Leonard McCoy at November 27, 2010 04:42 PM (sJTmU)

95 Belief in embryonic stem cell research is based on a common and persistant myth that biological matter from youthful sources have regenerative abilities. During the late 80's and early 90's it was believed fetal brain tissue could cure Parkinson's Disease. During the 19th Century it was believed STD's can be cured by having sex with virgin girls: the younger the better to guarantee virginity. And the earliest half-assed attempt at a blood tranfusion was done on Pope Innocent VIII in 1492 involving (big surprise!) young boys hoping they will revitalize the sick pope.

Posted by: Aaron at November 27, 2010 05:37 PM (XUIJ5)

96 Back in 2004, California passed proposition 71 which was to spend $3 Billion dollars towards Embryonic Stem Cell Research. Today, there are multiple articles discussing how it has essentially been a money pit so far with no tangible results.

Since Democrats pretty much run the show here in CA, they get to deal with the fallout. End of story.

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at November 27, 2010 07:18 PM (jQy/O)

97 65 Wait... you mean Alchemy ain't scientific??
That's what my phrenologist told me.
But...but... Isn't aromatherapy scientific? Isn't astrology scientific? Isn't homeopathy scientific? Isn't chiropractic scientific? Isn't accupuncture scientific? Aren't auras scientific? Isn't Pyramid Power scientific? Isn't Freudianism scientific? Isn't Alerternative Medicine scientific? Aren't accupressure magnets to relieve my Chakras scientific? Isn't Scientific Socialism...scientific?

Posted by: Liberal Fuckwit who claims to be scientific at November 27, 2010 09:29 PM (UIqfz)

98 Meh

Posted by: archie bunker at November 27, 2010 09:29 PM (0YS61)

99 Texted message to Barack: "U shld put sm Is on tht"

Posted by: Bill Clinton at November 27, 2010 09:32 PM (UIqfz)

100 So lay that info up next to this info: http://tinyurl.com/2dokkf5 "Doctors in Germany say they have completely cured a child of leukemia using an infusion of stem cells from her umbilical cord blood."

Posted by: Jackalope at November 28, 2010 04:55 AM (qCFTN)

101 @Aaron....iccckkkk! Thanks for the ucky mental images! Positively diabolical.

Posted by: wakeupcall at November 28, 2010 01:40 PM (ZLZjp)

102 Now I've seen various numbers for the number of successful treatments derived from adult stem cell research. Isn't it great?
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Posted by: Freddy at November 29, 2010 07:49 PM (qKSBv)

103

Posted by: rhyno at November 30, 2010 03:26 PM (KvgBu)

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Posted by: Terry at November 30, 2010 03:28 PM (KvgBu)

105 as well as the recently launched Net-book. This tends to make purchasing so much easier than ever previously since you dont have got to cope with long traces, screaming young children,

Posted by: moon boots at November 30, 2010 04:27 PM (6PHuf)

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