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November 23, 2010

CAC's late night HIGH CLASS discussion on art
— CAC

Open thread, art only as I am painting and wasting away the night and you already have the Open Bloggerama ONT#2,451 below.

So, how are these threads going to work from here on out?

First I will open with one to two paintings/sculptures/installations I think would be right up you morons' dark alleys. With 30,000 years of the stuff there is bound to be something you have never seen before that will make you angrier at your Art History professor in college for not sharing with you (be it Dali's excrement-laden early surrealism or Oppenheim's lesbian sculptures or John Currin's women as you will see below).

Since we morons are a creative bunch I also encourage those of you with a camera, brush, clay or whatnot of your own to shoot me JPEGs and a brief description of your work by emailing me here. Right-of-center artists are a rare breed and here will be an opportunity to show off and have your fellow morons heap praise/criticism/devastating-yet-creative insults at you.
What to include-
Clear JPEG (if you watermark it, make it minimal)
Title, Year, Dimensions, Medium, your handle here on AoS.
I intend to upload more of my Californication and BREAST series for moron-enjoyment from time to time as well.

I give you art, courtesy of the great John Currin:

The Bra Shop, 1997. Oil on Canvas.
Image courtesy the Tate Museum.

Currin's bosomy women series ended in the late 1990s but he continues to push the boundary between schlock and art, that is if you even believe there is such a division.

*note- apparently my email hyper-link thing is broken above, just hover over it with a mouse and you will get my gmail address. Please limit prank subscriptions to human pornography only.*

Update- Chemjeff had an excellent question below asking why the price differences in art. Being more cynical, I feel a bigger expert than myself showcased the nuttiness of the art market rather well- Robert Hughes in The Mona Lisa Curse:

The one quote you need to remember when seeing "terrible" art at outrageous prices: "Isn't it a miracle what so much money and what so little ability can produce?"

Posted by: CAC at 06:34 PM | Comments (96)
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1 Close it up.

Posted by: arhooley, conflicted Californian at November 23, 2010 06:36 PM (jtkJm)

2 That's funny, because I cold-called a guy named John Currin this week. I hope we can meet and discuss his art!

Posted by: NC Ref at November 23, 2010 06:37 PM (vdJ8O)

3 LOL!It's just so funny.I hope I could see more art products like this.

Posted by: electronic cigarette at November 23, 2010 06:40 PM (JEv6I)

4 Those are supposed to be women? I mean, if you can ignore the balloon-bazongas, the one on the right looks like Kurt Russel

Posted by: DK at November 23, 2010 06:42 PM (Zo7FE)

5 Also, Kurt Russell. Whatever.

Posted by: DK at November 23, 2010 06:43 PM (Zo7FE)

6 Dayum. If those were based on real women, somebody get them some ProActiv quick!

Posted by: esch at November 23, 2010 06:44 PM (l39os)

7 "What's wrong with your faaaaaaaaaaaaaace?"

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 23, 2010 06:44 PM (bvfVF)

8 Why would anyone want to paint Meghan McCain's wet dreams?

Posted by: Rajiv Vindaloo at November 23, 2010 06:46 PM (BZ2Bm)

9 But will they become as famous and loved as Dogs Playing Poker?

Posted by: Moi at November 23, 2010 06:46 PM (Ez4Ql)

10 I don't know much about art, but i know what i like, and what i like is boobies.

Posted by: booger at November 23, 2010 06:48 PM (9RFH1)

11 I expect to see this on the Hostages BBF now.

Posted by: Robert at November 23, 2010 06:52 PM (fRH/B)

12 I'm voting schlock. Twice.

Posted by: joncelli at November 23, 2010 06:52 PM (MLQL2)

13 Damn it, I always KNEW this was what women did in when morons weren't around.

Posted by: CoolCzech at November 23, 2010 06:57 PM (tJjm/)

14 i took a bob ross class once...the oil painting i did in the class used to hang at the end of my hallway...the nail gave way, and now it is prompted up by my bedside...not as many people see it here...it's ok...have no pic to share

Posted by: elspeth at November 23, 2010 06:58 PM (rLQ+e)

15 Man, when Ace comes back and sees what has happened to his Smart Military Blog...

Posted by: CoolCzech at November 23, 2010 06:58 PM (tJjm/)

16 One of my favorite artsy fartsy sites.

Posted by: sTevo at November 23, 2010 06:59 PM (VMcEw)

17 ...propped, not prompted...the painting is propped up by my bedside...

how does that happen?...our minds and the tricks they play......

Posted by: elspeth at November 23, 2010 07:00 PM (rLQ+e)

18 I got over art in the mid 80s, only to make bucketloads from it it the 90s. It pays if you're in the right place at the right time and believe in a God that thinks you deserve the break. Otherwise you're in the land of shit, wind and ghosts. (ie. Asia)

Posted by: Corona at November 23, 2010 07:04 PM (CdbZP)

CAC will you be exploring the vagaries of the Dada period?

Posted by: Journolist at November 23, 2010 07:05 PM (LwLqV)

20 Why does the posted art have TSA written all over it?

Posted by: Journolist at November 23, 2010 07:06 PM (LwLqV)

21 One glaring factor...no celery.

Posted by: Corona at November 23, 2010 07:10 PM (CdbZP)

22 CAC your "here" hyper went 404.

Posted by: Journolist at November 23, 2010 07:11 PM (LwLqV)

23 #19 Dada is this Dada is that Dada is this Dada is that Dada is nevertheless shit. -Tristan Tzara, one of its founders. I wouldn't be shocked if a revival happens as we eventually climb out of this utterly maddening recession.

Posted by: CAC at November 23, 2010 07:12 PM (lV4Fs)

24 Beats that Reubens guy to shit.

Posted by: nickless© at November 23, 2010 07:16 PM (MMC8r)

25 I find myself most deeply affected by the works of the under-appreciated Canine Anthropomorph school. While Dogs Playing Poker has justifiably become part of the canon, it too frequently overshadows the equally provocative - and dare I say even more thematically complex - Dogs Shooting Pool. Both works present challenges to our preconceptions of the nature of humanity that to my mind surpass the facile questions of the conflation of celebrity and diety raised by the rival Elvis on Velvet school.

Posted by: schizuki at November 23, 2010 07:18 PM (M+lbD)

26
I CAN"T FAP TO THIS!

Posted by: the man with no hands at November 23, 2010 07:32 PM (eF5rF)

27 I myself prefer the exquisite renderings on black velvet found only at the finest galleries in Tijuana.

When Jesus' eyes follow me around the room I'm speechless.

Posted by: mpfs at November 23, 2010 07:32 PM (3TjSM)

28 While the Canine Anthropomorph school stimulates on the intellectual level, for sheer visceral impact one must acknowledge the Chicks with Big Jugs Holding Swords movement. Certainly no other genre can approach it for sheer breadth of media, from Frank Frazetta's oils-on-canvas to Jesus "Loco" Martinez's airbrush-on-Harleys. I recently viewed an installation of new artists' works entirely in the medium of Bic-pen-on-blue-three-ring-binder. Stunning.

Posted by: schizuki at November 23, 2010 07:36 PM (M+lbD)

29 I am partial to paintings of sad clowns, bullfighters, and children with big eyes. All on black velvet. And Elvis. And Woody Woodpecker. On black velvet.

Posted by: Indian with the Village People at November 23, 2010 07:40 PM (502+o)

30 What do you call a guy with no arms and no legs hanging on the wall?

Posted by: eman at November 23, 2010 07:42 PM (tz/Za)

31 Don't forget Colombia's Painter of Obesity, Botero.

Posted by: Minuteman at November 23, 2010 07:42 PM (502+o)

32 What do you call a guy with no arms and no legs hanging on the wall?

---------------

Matte?

Oh, wait - Art!

Posted by: schizuki at November 23, 2010 07:43 PM (M+lbD)

33 While I agree with concerning the Canine Anthropomorph school it simply cannot possibly compete with modern sculpture.

The Da Vincis, Michelangelo, Rodin sculptures...a trifle.

The true masters of sculpture walk among us today. I give you Precious Moments and (in hushed tone) Hummels.

Posted by: mpfs at November 23, 2010 07:44 PM (3TjSM)

34 31 What do you call a guy with no arms and no legs hanging on the wall?

A still life?

Posted by: pep at November 23, 2010 07:44 PM (PSzeI)

35 I've got some jpgs I could send, but I'm too tired right now. Also, do they have to have "right of center" subjects?

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 23, 2010 07:44 PM (bvfVF)

36 Is this secondary titled 'The Bra Shop for Butterfaces'?

Posted by: anginak at November 23, 2010 07:47 PM (9CAoY)

37 31 Art. What do you call two guys with no arms and legs hanging in front of a window?

Posted by: Minuteman at November 23, 2010 07:47 PM (502+o)

38 Is that available painted on velvet? Without the leprosy of course.

Posted by: maddogg at November 23, 2010 07:49 PM (KGaxE)

39 still watching altamont stuff....and still on the angels' side...

Posted by: str8 outta the mon at November 23, 2010 07:51 PM (dwOwg)

40 I purchase all my fine art at the Holiday Inn off the 15 freeway.

Posted by: mpfs at November 23, 2010 07:52 PM (mHWsm)

41 No. Just no. This is the kind of stuff you'd expect to see at rule 34....or so I've heard.

Posted by: JC at November 23, 2010 07:54 PM (mpTo+)

42 38, I looked it up.

Posted by: eman at November 23, 2010 07:55 PM (tz/Za)

43 lso, do they have to have "right of center" subjects? Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 23, 2010 11:44 PM (bvfVF) I am doing a series on large breasts and society with my fiancee using literal breast-prints on canvas and plexiglass. Subject is most definitely immaterial.

Posted by: CAC at November 23, 2010 07:59 PM (lV4Fs)

44 This is right in my wheelhouse--sent you an email.

I shoot the 3 Bs: Broads, Booze and Bars

Posted by: Johnny I at November 23, 2010 08:03 PM (3rVGl)

45 Speaking of Art, I'd like to recommend a movie to the Moron Nation: Bitch Slap.

No, I'm not kidding. It's the best movie you've never heard of. And just as a teaser, Lucy Lawless and Piper Perabo are 2 of the least attractive wymyns in the movie.

And yes, it has a plot.

Posted by: FUBAR at November 23, 2010 08:03 PM (McG46)

46 Heh. I've had a sad hobo clown painting hanging in our living room for about six months. Bought it at the Boy Scout rummage sale. Drives my wife nuts.

Posted by: nickless at November 23, 2010 08:04 PM (MMC8r)

47 Stoned Again.

Posted by: r crumb at November 23, 2010 08:07 PM (x1Gj1)

48 *rofl* As soon as I saw "Currin" I knew what was going to be under the break.

I'm sitting in a room full of art supplies and found objects, but I'm still spending my time working on a scrap quilt. I need a boot camp or something.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at November 23, 2010 08:14 PM (4ucxv)

49 hey CAC, since you're a professional hoity-toity artiste, a question from a guy who just likes to see pretty picture: if i wanted to get some piece of art, like a painting, what should I look for to see if it is a good bargain or not? Because I see pictures that look nice but they cost way more than I'm willing to pay, and then I see pictures that I also like but they are dirt cheap (relatively speaking) - is it just supply & demand, or is there some technical aspect to it that I'm missing?

Posted by: chemjeff at November 23, 2010 08:15 PM (PaSAU)

50 #50 There is a drunken asshole whom I actually like named Robert Hughes. Look up The Mona Lisa Curse on Youtube and he basically explains how a few collectors turned modern art into a ludicrous market in which often crap artists have their value inflated by bidding wars, while the most influential artists at the start of this (Robert Rauchenberg for example) were infuriated that they sold their work to collectors at $200 a painting only to go at auction for $25,000 a week later. Damien Hurst is one such inflated artist, and we have Saatchi and Broad to thank for that. If you want good art, go to ArtScape in Baltimore or one of the local Art Walks. Oftentimes artists are allowed at discount to sell their wares on the paths and you can get great stuff for $100-$250 that, after gallery and management fees, sells for 4-10x that.

Posted by: CAC at November 23, 2010 08:19 PM (lV4Fs)

51 i have an A in my algebra class...and there's only 2 weeks left before the final

just had to tell someone!!

Posted by: elspeth at November 23, 2010 08:20 PM (rLQ+e)

52 So many links to post...at my site at the link below, and here's the Miss Seacrets contest in OC, MD tiny url.com/seacrets4th2010 (remove the space).

The good ol' Red, White and Blue...

Posted by: Johnny I at November 23, 2010 08:28 PM (3rVGl)

53 elspeth, congratulations! You'll be ready for pre-calculus then!

Posted by: chemjeff at November 23, 2010 08:30 PM (PaSAU)

54 CAC okay I'll be on the lookout for local art walks - thanks

Posted by: chemjeff at November 23, 2010 08:33 PM (PaSAU)

55 Dadaism never went away. The same motivations are present from the start of Dada to the present day. Futility, despair, nihilism. Still around in abundance.

Posted by: navybrat at November 23, 2010 08:52 PM (I/Hbl)

56 Futility, despair, nihilism. Still around in abundance.

Say what you like about the tenets of National Socialism, at least it's an ethos.

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at November 23, 2010 08:58 PM (4ucxv)

57 Futility, despair, nihilism. Still around in abundance. Posted by: navybrat at November 24, 2010 12:52 AM (I/Hbl) Especially over at HotAir.

Posted by: CAC at November 23, 2010 08:59 PM (lV4Fs)

58 Hey, John, those racing posters look nice!

Posted by: chemjeff at November 23, 2010 09:01 PM (PaSAU)

59 The Robert Hughes - Business of Art clip . . . is that for real? Does the collector really sit there and take the insults, or maybe not notice them?

Posted by: The inexplicable Dr. Julius Strangepork at November 23, 2010 09:03 PM (VTrAj)

60 I appreciate art in all aspects of my life. I even collect it, go to museums, belong to art clubs. It's just the artists themselves that drive me nuts from time to time...

Posted by: navybrat at November 23, 2010 09:03 PM (I/Hbl)

61 Good choice, CAC.

Currin rocks, and I say that not just because he's probably an AoSHQ moron, (there's a good New Yorker article that makes it clear he's a both a right winger and obsessed with pr0n) but also because he's got superior figural chops.

I keep hoping that he's at the head of a movement away from abstraction back to figural art, but I keep being disappointed.

Posted by: DelD at November 23, 2010 09:04 PM (oAZ1S)

62 The art world is odd. I worked in a commercial art gallery in the Forum Shops at Caesar's Palace in Las Vegas for a year or so. The markup on the art is very high, but then the showplace is VERY expensive to operate. But who is more likely to drop several thousand dollars on a painting or sculpture - someone who sees the artwork in a street fair, or someone in a world-renowned high-end shopping center? But you know where a LOT of the real crap art gets bought and displayed is in the public area. Gov't owned museums of Modern Art and gov't buildings (libraries & colleges particularly) get decorated with junk that could NEVER get moved in a retail setting outside of New York or LA. LOTS of big bucks in that.

Above and beyond all that you have to realize that becoming a really good artist takes a lot of time to develop and art materials aren't cheap. A really good finished piece will often require many, many hours of work. To you a $2000 dollar painting is a LOT of money. Tot the artist that may very well be a better part of (or even a whole) month. That $100,000 sculpture may very well be $30,00 - $40,000 in materials alone and several months of planning and work.

Personally, I like to see this kind of post at Ace's. Our side has too long conceded the Arts almost entirely to the left and we are left wondering why it has gone all weird and screwy.

Posted by: Mitchell at November 23, 2010 09:05 PM (aLJDe)

63 Good grief, I just bing'd Robert Hughes and he's for real. What a clown that collector is. I'll look for some of Hughes's books.

Posted by: The inexplicable Dr. Julius Strangepork at November 23, 2010 09:08 PM (VTrAj)

64 #62 Yes, it is for real. Hughes is vicious to those he thinks ruin the art world (his takedown of Julian Schnabel is a work of literary genius) and many "collectors" are absolutely clueless to the criticism and about the very art they buy- they simply snatch it because they think it will sell and their transactions unfortunately dictate what is "in" or "out" in the process.

Posted by: CAC at November 23, 2010 09:09 PM (lV4Fs)

65 Mitchell, It is critical the right does not just abandon cultural institutions like art. Surrendering aspects of our humanity that have been with us since we created fire and banged cave women because of the presence of liberals is like conceding to a mugger because he has a plastic knife. Even your more liberal artists have work that many on the right would find intriguing for different reasons. Tilted Arc, for example, by Richard Serra. The giant beam of Cor-Tec steel was destroyed in 1985 because of complaints by federal workers in the plaza that it obstructed. "Got in my way! An eyesore!" Funny the federal workers were complaining about the most obvious sign of government obstructionism ever built, even if that wasn't its intended purpose.

Posted by: CAC at November 23, 2010 09:13 PM (lV4Fs)

66 Re. Mitchell @65: true re. paintings & sculpture. Limited edition prints can be a relative bargain, however. The artist can amortize his or her labor over say, 12 to 250 prints, and the price of each print is much lower than that of one-off pieces.

Posted by: The inexplicable Dr. Julius Strangepork at November 23, 2010 09:15 PM (VTrAj)

67 15Man, when Ace comes back and sees what has happened to his Smart Military Blog...

CoolCzech, shoot me an e-mail on my tipline. I don't have your addy.

Posted by: genghis at November 23, 2010 09:16 PM (1XErj)

68 @ 57
John--
Your email @ trilon doesn't work...

Posted by: Johnny I at November 23, 2010 09:18 PM (3rVGl)

69 Ok, I've got a lot of mixed media stuff I've done over the years laying about but none of it is artsy fartsy enough to be "art"(yeah, yeah I'm an English major and a visual arts minor -- switched from a pre-med major too...sue me; I at least got to get drunk every night, while working a full time job and keeping a 4.0 GPA...which I am paying for every single day right now).

Posted by: unknown jane, humanities major at November 23, 2010 09:33 PM (5/yRG)

70 Here. Real Art.

This link now proves that AoSHQ is still a smart military blog, sort of.

Posted by: Arbalest at November 23, 2010 09:37 PM (8tCPO)

71 That would be really uncomfortable to sit in. But, a comfortable chair would be craft, not art.

Posted by: The inexplicable Dr. Julius Strangepork at November 23, 2010 09:40 PM (VTrAj)

72 I tried the bra-fitting theme for a while but the damn Florentines are a bunch of homos. Couldn't move the merchandise. Had to switch to Biblical schlock.

Posted by: Giotto at November 23, 2010 10:01 PM (iurys)

73 A couple questions - do they have to be JPGs and is there a time limit for when to send them by email?

I would have to find the files, which might take a little bit.

And they can just be anything, right? So long as it's art - no specific theme?

Posted by: soulpile is... expendable at November 23, 2010 10:01 PM (afWhQ)

74 Some ancient Greek fine art suitable for this thread:
http://tinyurl.com/2ahuewq
Silenus getting "multo blotto" on a coin.

Posted by: Gasoline Gus at November 23, 2010 10:07 PM (wxIDn)

Wow, we got some fricking artistic cats in this bunch. I absolutely love art and the older I get I luckily have a wider and more pluralistic view of art and its interposition with life and the athestetic impact and ultimately the rewards it provides.

Posted by: Journolist at November 23, 2010 10:09 PM (LwLqV)

76 #78 Anything so long as it is art, and it is of your own creation.

Posted by: CAC at November 23, 2010 10:44 PM (lV4Fs)

Surprised to find this post on Ace of Spades tonight, but hey, serendipity is cool.

I need a pen pal on this very issue. Can you/will you drop me a line?

Posted by: Restless Native at November 23, 2010 10:44 PM (wFQ+v)

78 It's nothing visual, but I write piano music (classical background) pretty much for my personal consumption.

Any Canadian readers here who remember Harper cutting several million $ of gov't arts endowments? I remember discussing it with a friend who was surprised to learn that I wasn't totally against it.

Leftish commenters suggested he was "punishing" left-leaning folks for there views, or some such thing, but I just think that was an indirect consequence of cutting funding. Do you imagine right-leaning folks relying on government funding to do their art? If you like it so much... sponsor or donate.

It's not like donors aren't still able to fund pet projects, like how some symphony orchestras rely partly on ticket sales (some from me!) and partly on wealthy donors or business owners who like to see the art form continue. Local taxes can fund artwork if they want it. Makes more sense to me than having it at the federal level.

Posted by: fb at November 24, 2010 12:11 AM (tnDLR)

79 *their

Posted by: fb (typo spotter) at November 24, 2010 12:12 AM (tnDLR)

80 Yeah....the "fine art market" has been on a downward spiral since the 1980's....
It's now devolved into Mangaporn & ID politics....*sigh*

Posted by: workingclass artist at November 24, 2010 01:17 AM (nD95B)

81 Well....I don't have an artistic bone in my body, but I live for art. I'm a collector that buys what I like and that it has value is really secondary (somewhat). I really enjoy the works of the illustrators of the 20's through the 50's and especially Henry Soulen. I also collect art deco bronzes and art nouveau and art deco art glass.

Although I buy and sell, basically the only reason I sell anything is to upgrade my collection. http://web.artprice.com/store/GALLERY-KAYCEE/ is my web gallery at art Price.

Posted by: rls at November 24, 2010 01:41 AM (hS3ai)

82 If you have the dogs sitting around a table playing cards and a Elvis painted on velvet, what else is there? Maybe a mermaid with a clock in her belly? Anything else is over-priced crap. I guess if one is nuanced enough that they think a black&white photo of a bicycle tire hanging on their wall with some soft jazz playing in the background is art. But as President Bush once said: "I don't do nuance."

Posted by: Case at November 24, 2010 02:11 AM (0K+Kw)

83 54, trig is next...then all my math will be done

Posted by: elspeth at November 24, 2010 02:39 AM (rLQ+e)

We're getting to a point where many of the high end art schools don't even teach actual technique art any more, and instead teach only art history and art-as-politics. The modern artist generally realizes that he can't do better than the past masters - all the best and highest art was already made hundreds of years ago, and can not be topped. So, all they have left is "newness" and shock value.

Art is done - so much great art was generated in the past that no person has enough time (or even inclination) to see it all. Western culture has made serious art complete, and now our so-called artists are often leading the effort to destroy those great accomplishments by robbing them of their rightful respect and appreciation in the mind of the average person.

There is still room for greater triumphs in architecture, simply because of technological improvements in the various tools of that trade, but I've seen few examples of good new ideas in that area. The architects are also infected by this modern craving for the novel, and give in to it without grounding their creations in those elements that make classic architecture "classic."

Posted by: Reactionary at November 24, 2010 04:09 AM (xUM1Q)

85 Posted by: Reactionary at November 24, 2010 08:09 AM (xUM1Q) That can be said about many degrees of study now. Art just looks the most obvious. There are those schools however that have become factories of blandness where the raw material is the trust fund and a moron who could never actually do anything (hence why the oblivious parents throw a fortune at getting their little dolt SOMETHING to claim they have achieved). There are also those schools that have actually done the reverse and demand technique, craft, and an actual statement. At the local level, the product of these schools are actual artists, not seat warmers for the next art-related chair in Interpretive XYZ Studies. I lucked out and attended the latter (though admittedly I moved to California for a girl before finishing). Modern art is far from dead, but the saturation of blandness and faux minimalist work in the art scene makes it inaccessible or unacceptable for most outside of it.

Posted by: CAC at November 24, 2010 05:25 AM (lV4Fs)

86 CAC.. Will one of these art thread center around the American born art of Graphic Novels?

Posted by: Dave C at November 24, 2010 05:54 AM (poJjg)

87 BTW.. Loved the Robert Hughs clip too.. He helps confirms what I thought about the art world. (Not art in general) Most of art is more of a status symbol rather than buying what you like.

Posted by: Dave C at November 24, 2010 05:57 AM (poJjg)

88 Best artist = Art Fram

Posted by: kim at November 24, 2010 06:22 AM (4nxhP)

89 91 I don't know about the "all the best art has already been done". I think the old masters (and by old you're talking the Age of Pericles, Eygptian temple architecture, that sort of thing) are phenomenal, but I think the potential for art that is just as good is out there. It would be wrong of us to act like a bunch of mandarins and just make pale, weak copies of "masterworks", just as it is wrong to be doing this shock value crap, but somewhere out there is somebody unappreciated, who isn't falling for either line of bad thinking, and who is making good art. At least I hope so.

Posted by: unknown jane, humanities major at November 24, 2010 06:24 AM (5/yRG)

90 The only thing miraculous about it is how much wealth a lot of clearly-clueless idiots are willing to throw away on crap that is considered - by them and a bunch of other mostly-equally-or-more-so clueless idiots - to be, somehow, "worthwhile art".

You can be an innovative, truly creative artist without producing pointless junk - though, seeing what is all-too-often acclaimed as "art" and/or "artistic" makes that difficult to imagine at times.

Posted by: J.S.Bridges at November 24, 2010 06:24 AM (VprLJ)

91
Best art ever. No contest.

Art walks are interesting, but my local art walk is about 90% crap. Which is surprising for a SoCal town with an "arty" reputation. Mostly it's expensive but gimmicky interior decorating accessories: paintings that continue off the canvas onto the frame, solar-powered bronze lawn frogs that spit water, refraction photos of landscapes through a water-filled wine glass etc.

The best items are actually the craft stuff, because at least most of it has an actual use. Even if the use is kind of frivolous. Exotic wood yo-yos, hand-knitted dog sweaters, leather goods, silver jewelry, brass and copper hanging wind chimes.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 24, 2010 06:55 AM (DZVrI)

92 Mostly it's expensive but gimmicky interior decorating accessories: paintings that continue off the canvas onto the frame, solar-powered bronze lawn frogs that spit water, refraction photos of landscapes through a water-filled wine glass etc. My city had its first open art "walk" to the neglect of several actual galleries (artist-controlled and operated). They were openly calling for artists and galleries on the promise of a serious art expo, but the entire length of the walk was roadside kitsch. Bad roadside kitsch. You should go to Bergemot Station in Santa Monica. I have seen some rather brilliant stuff there ranging from photography to whole room installations.

Posted by: CAC at November 24, 2010 07:39 AM (lV4Fs)

93 I love the moron community here at AOS -- y'all are some interesting, intelligent, talented folks. CAC, I'll have to send you some of my stuff later--but I'm not going to call it Fine Art. I don't think it quite qualifies...

Posted by: Miller at November 24, 2010 11:33 AM (lbijo)

94 82 #78
Anything so long as it is art, and it is of your own creation.

Posted by: CAC at November 24, 2010 02:44 AM (lV4Fs)

Great. I'll send some images your way this weekend. I dabble for fun in various media, so I hope amateurish work is ok.

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