1 People weren't believing before, and they sure as hell won't now.

2

"The question is, will enough Democrats who claim to worry about the deficits drink this Kool-Aid? "

Yes, yes they will.  And they'll lie every inch of the way claiming for fiscally responsible it is too.

Assholes.

3 I fear the answer is yes.

I don't think fear quite covers how I feel about all this.

4

Errr..claiming HOW fiscally responsible...

5 The media is reporting this crap like it is fact. They are not questioning it at all, pointing out the discrepencie between taxes and service or pointing out the $500 billion in new taxes. They are doing thier part to help out their Messiah.

6 And the Democrats have the CBO working 100-hour weeks "analyzing" every crack-brained scheme they've devised in their dreams and from messages in their bowls of Cheerios in the morning and the hallucinations from Pelosi's botox and Harry Reid's severely constricted skull. What a fine way to grind people down to nubs. The USSR was good at working its bureaucrats into a fine powder coming up with mountains of bullshit too.

7 Rush said two yes votes switched to no, but he didn't say who

8 Pelosi is absolutely fucking nuts.

9

What pisses me off about the entire house of cards construct of the CBO is that is was constructed for one purpose - to con the public, and it is used by both sides to do that. 

Just like a million other phony and corrupt mechanisms that have been put in place by what have become our leaders instead of our servants, politicians will rail againts them when they work against their interests, but will never do anything to dismantle them because in the end, they work for politicians' interests which are nearly always at odds with the public interests.

10 Jim Jones has possessed the souls of the reigning party.

11 The question is, will enough Democrats who claim to worry about the deficits drink this Kool-Aid

If I could do it Barry can.

12 with the "smoke and mirrors" are you referring to obama's coke and pot habit? or do you mean his song and dance around the truth and facts? or is it both?

13 Well my votes have switched from no, to hell no, to FUCK NO!

14 Hey can anyone name me one government program scored by the CBO that was later found to be accurate?

15

My Prediction:

After Reconcilliation Fail, and Deem Fail, Bill signed into law via Executive Order at the Annual Easter Egg Roll.

16

Is there any record of past CBO estomates on items like this and what the reality turned out to be?

I think it would be real interesting to see how close the CBO estimates have been over the years.

17 Some jerk I used to date made a snarky comment on my Facebook--first, he believes the "$100B/yr" estimate, I can't believe I ever dated anyone so stupid--that no one ever complains about multi-year defense projects, so complaining about this program/expense is stupid.

I'm pretty sure there are people who complain about defense, but the Constitution explicitly mentions national defense as a responsibility of the federal government.  Not so much paying for his Viagra.  Especially not with the unConstitutional purchase mandates and the shitty, dishonest, bad-faith ways Pelosi and Obama are going about getting it enshrined in law over the objection of 2/3 the voting public.

Which made me wonder...if a legitimate amendment process had been started and completed to give the federal government that responsibility--ratified by 3/4 the states, preferably at conventions--would we still be angry?

I think I would be, but I'd probably accept it, since that's the way the system works.

18 November is going to be epic. I can hardly wait. The are more people that believe aliens visit earth and buzz around in little ships for fun than believe the federal government is ruling with the consent of the people.

19 "After Reconcilliation Fail, and Deem Fail, Bill signed into law via Executive Order at the Annual Easter Egg Roll."

For some reason I can only imagine such a scene as if it were a part of The Wall. Or maybe 1984. But oddly hilarious in atmosphere.

20 our phone calls mean more than the media's lies. Keep the pressure on

21

We need to quietly inform these fence sitting Dems that if this thing passes and then fails the Dems will lose power and the American Public will be enraged. The American Public will want heads on sticks and Conservative will be more than happy enough to throw any Dem who votes for this to the wolves.

We need to tell them that they will be hauled in front of Congressional hearings and if there is a Republican sitting in the White House they will be prosecuted for anything we can think of.

Make these guys afraid for their futures and their families futures.

We must also remind them about those rather crazed people who go on shooting rampages when they lose thier jobs. If this thing goes south and peoples family members start to die people are going to blame them not conservatives. How long do you think it will take before some grieving soul decides to take revenge on these guys or their families.

I don't think these guys have really thought about that. For to long they haven't had to suffer for anything that goes wrong. Now they have just painted big bullseyes not only on themselves but their children and anyother relative.

22 Er, that's the way the system is SUPPOSED to work.  Clearly that's not how it's working today.

23

EPA rules lack of helath insurance as a pollutant.  Developing....

24 Wiser,

I can't find it at the moment by they were 100billion of so low on the stimulus.

That's one year later and not nearly the convoluted system that is almost impossible to predict.

Oooops.

25

gibbs is on....he must be lying

precedent is postponing  of his trip overseas

 

hehehe

 

26 Getting fiscal predictions from the CBO is like getting the weather forcast from the IPCC.

27 We must also remind them about those rather crazed people who go on shooting rampages when they lose thier jobs. That's probably not something you want to mention when you call your rep's office.

28 Getting fiscal predictions from the CBO is like getting the weather forcast from the IPCC.

Posted by: Joanna at March 18, 2010 12:57 PM (7+WuG)

Or a bath from Roman Polanski.

29 No, the president on postponed his trip because of the earthquake in Indonesia

30 Obama's never gonna get to go home to Indonesia if you stupid Americans don't just submit to his will.

31 We have ten year plan.

32

So Pelosi is the head of the Al Liberal Martyrs Brigade?

33

"Getting fiscal predictions from the CBO is like getting the weather forcast from the IPCC. "

Or investment advice from Madoff

34 Zero is head mullah for DUMB: Destroy US Martyrs Brigade.

35 Or investment advice from Madoff

There's a reason so many of his victims were libs.

36

Getting fiscal predictions from the CBO is like getting the weather forcast from the IPCC.

Or make-up advice from Lady GaGa.

37

Well, everybody with half an ounce of brains knows this is a lie, and that this bill is one of the biggest loads of shit to go through the sewer in Washington...however, they seem dead set on passing the damn thing. 

Right now I'm getting the same sort of feeling I get from a horse trader who's trying to sell me a real piece of Alpo -- it's just such a good deal, too good; they're selling it too hard.  This leaves you with two options: go ahead and take the Alpo just to get the trader off your back, then run it out asap so you don't have to deal with it; or, second option, tell the trader no, and if he keeps it up he'll lose your business for good -- and possibly a lot of other people's business, because word travels fast.  How that applies to Congress is anybody's guess, but that's how I feel about it.

38 Frankly, I wouldn't want to be a Dem member of Congress and use this as a fig leaf.  The CBO said it's preliminary and Pelosi is still horse-trading.  The final numbers could come in much worse.

39 No to the Alpo. No. Dog. Food.

40

Getting fiscal predictions from the CBO is like getting the weather forcast from the IPCC.

 

 

or dating tips from Palin Steele

41 Does anyone have any faith in the numbers from the CBO for next year, let alone 5-10 years from now when the costs explode?

LOL, does anyone believe ANYTHING from these clowns liars assholes?

42

Getting fiscal predictions from the CBO is like getting the weather forcast from the IPCC.

Or fashion tips from MeeshL.

43 I remember going to a town hall meeting about the Bush tax cuts when I was a master's student with Sen. Carper (D-DE). In there he claimed that the figures beyond 3-4 years regarding how big the budget deficit would be as a result of the cut in tax revenue cannot, and should never be trusted, because it was going to be a lot more. I disagreed with his claims as to why, but I was surprised that he was honest in that he didn't believe budget estimates either. But, now that the shoe is on the other foot, I'm sure he's probably holding town hall meetings now, or will be soon, touting the long term numbers as golden regarding health care.

44

#22, the issues of the day will be settled by blood and iron. Otto von Bismarck knew more about governance than the entire Obama Administration.

Unfortunately it will be their iron, our blood. The "racial diversity" reps on the death panels will make sure that white conservatives get a box of band-aids at age 22 to last the rest of their lives if college indoctrination was determined not to have worked.

Liberals and the "ethnically oppressed" will get the next tier of care, Party apparatchiks the top tier.

 

45

That's probably not something you want to mention when you call your rep's office.

Well Fluffy I was not saying that you should go up to your rep and say "if my family member dies I'm going to kill you".

What you can say to them and what should be said to them is this: " You do realize that people are going to personally hold you responsible for this if one of their family members dies. Can you imagine what someone who has a family member die for something they know would have been dealt with before will do to you or your family?"

You are not threatening them, you are just pointing out to them that there are going to be real life threats to their lives from the same kind of people who become disgruntled workers who go on shooting rampages. Only now we are going to have these kinds of people directed at Government officals. We also need to remind them that they will most likely be ex-government officals and so will not have access to the major levels of security they have around Washington DC.

46 If I recall correctly, Bush's tax cuts increased revenue dramatically..the Laffer curve works. Ah, for the good old days of 2005.....

47 Maybe the dems are figuring out, correctly, that we are probably going to vote them out either way they vote on this weasel sandwich?

48

This is insanity.

This... is... CONGRESS!!!

49 Ehh, sock puppet malfunction in 49.

50

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