1 purple avenger! show your tits!!

2

 

me am fisrt!

 

 

3 nro hasn't updated in four hours.  What's going on?!

4 Obama, "But you must pass healthcare reform or my presidency is toast!  But hey, it's not about me."

5 About the same first full decade cost as before.  Will the message get out this time?

6

USA! USA! USA!

We're number one.

7 It really is tough for our side to deal with the fact that Obama and crew can lie all the time and the media never calls him on it. Yeah there is Fox and talk radio and internet, but most people still watch nbc nightly news and overall are very casual about their news consumption.

8

still be 23 million people in America lacking health insurance...

people or Americans?

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10 You know what would be nice?

If we had a group of people tasked with researching what elected officials say and telling us whether or not said officials are telling the truth. 

11

We are now passing bills, not because they are good, but because the president wants it to save his own ass? HUH?

How do these people look at themselves in the mirror or sleep at night? I honestly dont know.

12

Beauty and the ... eh...

well the guy who unhinged parents in virtually every third world country use to frighten the shit out of their children.

http://tinyurl.com/yk77hnx

 

13 If we had a group of people tasked with researching what elected officials say and telling us whether or not said officials are telling the truth. 

Posted by: Slublog at March 18, 2010 11:56 PM (LWL1x)

Counter-revolutionary zealot!

14 Don't be rude to Robber Barons. Many of them provided useful services and goods.

15 Is it easier to get through to a congresscritter's office this time of night?

16 yes Intrade has hit 80%

17

Don't be rude to Robber Barons. Many of them provided useful services and goods.

...and ran California before it really bit the big one.

18 I just want to know where exactly I should start mailing live weasels.

19 GE bringing good crony capitalist monopoly back to life.

20 These are the kind of people who play Russian Roulette with a grenade. In a crowded bar.

21

These are the kind of people who play Russian Roulette with a grenade. In a crowded bar.

Biden plays Russian Roulette with a semi-automatic.

22

Beauty and the ... eh...

well the guy who unhinged parents in virtually every third world country use to frighten the shit out of their children.

You know I am less and less impressed with the great general Petraeus.

23

Biden plays Russian Roulette with a semi-automatic.

Posted by: dudeinsantacruz at March 19, 2010 12:07 AM (3wYSZ)

Too bad he's too stupid to work the slide.

24

John Boehner Tonight: "Let's Put It This Way,

"They Don't Have The Votes"

25 Jesus H. Tapdancing Christ! This is what, the 95th thread today about accountants!!! To hell with Obama, I don't care if he ass-rapes my cat, IT'S MARCH MADNESS BABY! Where is the damn basketball thread? The message boards at ESPN or Sportsline just don't cut it!!!!!! You hockey loving closet Candians.Sheesh.

26 I mean, Butler university is playing Gonzaga! GON-FUCKING-ZAGA!!!!! Don't you pick them every year, because the name is so funny? Even though they lose in the 1st round every year? Richmond State! Notre Dame loses.. Damn papists! BAAAYYYYYYBEEEEEE!

27 There is a kinda poetic justis for the retards that voted for President Wonderfuckhead.
To think that these stupids fuckheads thought they were going to get something for nothing but instead are going to get screwed liked everyone else.
It will fun to tell them to shut the fuck up.

28 I don't care if he ass-rapes my cat

Trust me, your cat is safe.  Its your ass he's looking to rape.

29 Around 30 million uninsured.

30 The f*ckers are learning that we are paying attention to all their b.s.  Unfortunately I'm sure some b.s. deal will slip through the cracks in the other thousands of pages.

31 Question:
Has there been any research/polling data on pro health care supporters that think this bill is retro active or begins this year or next?

32

I "deem" Barry & his minions in congress....traitors, guilty as charged, sentencing TBA....off to Gitmo with the lot of them!!! 

Nancy will be well informed re: waterboarding by this time next week. 

This deeming sh*t sure is fun!!!! 

33 Does anyone here live in a district of an undecided congressman?

34

Foxnews Scores Big Audience For Obama Interview

Ratings

35 At least lawyers will make out well. Care will have to go down. Mistakes will be made.

36 Obama Huge Gaffe

37 @35---Interview?  He doesn't do interviews; he can only deliver a speech.  (The same one again and again........)

38

So let me get this straight - when the Dems want to shore up support for a vote that they are prepared to not have anyway, they release phoney CBO results ahead of time, so Obama can trumpet them while the actual numbers that subsequently come out are carefully ignored by their lapdogs in the MSM?

Yeah, I am so going to ever fucking vote for one of these people again!  Die muthafuckers, die muthafuckers, die!

39 9 Pffffttt ...... pikers , in 10 years , I plan to have spent at least a megagigabazillion dollars on hookers and blow alone .

In 2010 dollars or 2020 dollars? In 2020, it'll cost a million just to get a bean burrito (and in the future, "all restaurants are Taco Bell")

40
Ahem.
There is the the little matter of making it past me.
Just saying.

41 I haven't followed the threads today since about 7pm or so. Has anyone discussed the likelihood of this monstrosity having to back to the Senate before Obama can sign it?

According to this article about an interview with Senate Budget Chairman Kent Conrad (D-N.D.) today, this thing won't pass muster in the Senate with the changes made by the House.

I'm confused.  I thought the Deem and Pass trick would only work if they were avoiding Reconciliation.

Help a brother out?

42

The court scene: 

http://tinyurl.com/yzubb4w

43

It's really depressing what is already happening to the medical profession.  Many docs are taking early retirement rather than deal with this mess. The medicare cuts they already shoved down our throats are devastating.   We are firing staff, reducing services and considering how to cut our liability (ie reduce exposure to medicare patients). 

We used to to alot of phone assistance - triage and making suggestions. Now that we have had to cut back on staff time for phone calls, we do a lot more "Just go to the ER," and a lot less returning calls.

Our state passed a mandate making the Doctors financially responsible for providing the interpreters for non-English speaking patients.  We lose money on these visits once the patient is in office for more than 20 minutes.  If you are sitting in the lobby perusing the antiquated magazines and see non-English speaking patients and their interpreters whisked in ahead of you, it's because of this unfunded mandate. 

You, Madame Taxpayer and Mister Veteran, can just wait.  The guy who has been here 10 years without bothering to learn English is just so much more important that you are. Don't get us wrong - we're so very happy that you've worked your collective asses off to pay the bill, but the system is going to be driven to treat you more and more poorly in the name of "Fairness."

The unintended consequence of government micromanagement of our profession have been nearly universally destructive. Now we will have a trillion dollars of unintended consequences, micromanagement and unfunded mandates.  Whooo-hooo!

44 Ahem.
There is the the little matter of making it past me.
Just saying.

Posted by: 2012 the Mayan Calender at March 19, 2010 12:42 AM (E5V01)

Human stupidity will outlast the sun.

45

Human stupidity will outlast the sun.

Posted by: Rat Patrol at March 19, 2010 12:46 AM (dQdrY)

That's oddly comforting, your Patrol-ness.

46 Our state passed a mandate making the Doctors financially responsible for providing the interpreters for non-English speaking patients.  We lose money on these visits once the patient is in office for more than 20 minutes.

---------------


How did your state rep vote on that?

47 According to this article about an interview with Senate Budget Chairman Kent Conrad (D-N.D.) today, this thing won't pass muster in the Senate with the changes made by the House.

I'm confused.  I thought the Deem and Pass trick would only work if they were avoiding Reconciliation.

Help a brother out?

Posted by: K~Bob at March 19, 2010 12:42 AM (9b6FB)

Well, that sounds as true as it is irrelevant. It isn't likely to go to the Senate, though some Democrats think it might. Most people believe it will be signed into law as is, and alterations added in subsequent legislation. Sounds like either Conrad is naive or just blowing smoke.

48

Speaking of recognizing BS:  GE ran a full page ad in WSJ yesterday, reminding Americans that Ronald Reagan was on GE TV, and flacked for them for ten years. Huge portrait of The Gipper in his GE director's chair.

Of course, it was Reagan who said "We're all Keynesians now."

Has GE disassociated itself from the Wave of The Future, or are they just getting a lot of calls? If it's the latter, this sets a new low, akin to US Nazis posting G.Washington's picture on their rally stage.

49 Posted by: Rat Patrol at March 19, 2010 12:46 AM (dQdrY)

Oh man.
Why did you have to go and say that?
Ya ruined my buzzz.
 At least I'm not the chicken.

50 So, the Democrats are going to pass a health care bill that's going to cost up to $3 trillion through 2023, doesn't improve the health care situation in this country appreciably (actually worsens the situation for citizens in most areas), takes away our individual liberty and freedom by forcing us to purchase a product, and is opposed by a clear majority of American voters.  WTF?!?

I never thought that the Democrats could outdo their previous irresponsible behavior but they will definitely do it if they pass this pile of crap.  Their stupidity and lack of common sense is astounding.  I hate to say it, but every single day my appreciation for Bill Clinton increases.  With the exception of Zell Miller, he was about as good as it gets among modern-day Democrats.  Believe me, it pains me to have to praise Clinton, but I never thought he would intentionally or unintentionally destroy the country in order to "make history," like the current group of Democratic leaders are going to do.

51 So, the Democrats are going to pass a health care bill that's going to cost up to $3 trillion through 2023

In the real world of fraud, abuse, and administrative frictional losses, you can probably triple that to around $10B.

52

Everyone's squabbling about which rules Congress has to follow....well, looks like Congress doesn't need any stupid rules.....behold:  H. Res. 1190,  March 17, 2010 (sorry, but this is NOT a joke):

Providing for consideration of motions to suspend the rules.

1 Resolved, That it shall be in order at any time

2 through the calendar day of March 21, 2010, for the

3 Speaker to entertain motions that the House suspend the

4 rules. The Speaker or her designee shall consult with the

5 Minority Leader or his designee on the designation of any

6 matter for consideration pursuant to this resolution.

iiiiiii

53 Nancy Pelosi:  "America, now that we've given you the finger, we're going to give you a fisting you won't believe..!"

54 The robber barons didn't die out or get regulated out of existence, they simply moved into government.

55 Actually I thought this was just the olde aristocracy reasserting control.

56 Why don't you wingnuts put down your KKKalculators and realize that no matter what your Rethuglipolls say, this is what the American people want more than anything in the world.

57

Human stupidity will outlast the sun.

Posted by: Rat Patrol at March 19, 2010 12:46 AM (dQdrY)
--------

Yes, by about 8 minutes and 30 seconds.

--------------------------------------

So I question the timing re this so-called healthcare bill. The taxes start right away, the "services" don't start for 4 years. Is that also  true of the abortion funding? What about the ":fraud and waste" provisions, when do they take effect?

 

 

 

58 How do these people look at themselves in the mirror or sleep at night?

Negative. I sleep during the day upside down in a cave and have no reflection.

59 Why don't you wingnuts put down your KKKalculators and realize that no matter what your Rethuglipolls say, this is what the American people want more than anything in the world.

Posted by: Lib Dummy at March 19, 2010 01:04 AM (5I0Yr)

Socialized medicine kills dolphins.

60 Nancy Pelosi:  "Hey, Lib Dummy?  You are going to get fisted along with everybody else!  After all, we have to keep things fair..!"

61 Posted by: Stillwater at March 19, 2010 01:00 AM (qUdDE)

What exactly is that? Are they setting the day (the 21st) for the Slaughter vote?

62 How did your state rep vote on that?

Posted by: Smapty at March 19, 2010 12:50 AM (bAySe)

My Rep at the time was a lefty Dem who is all for unfunded mandates. He was defeated, but we're stuck with this situation for now.  The interpreter clears $75-175/ per visit.  We make little more than that on medicaid patients- and lose money if the paid interpreter sits in the lobby.  I've had a family member interpreting have the gall to threaten me with a bill as well.   Like I should pay them for the privilege of giving away free health care.

One of my last call nights I admitted 12 people. One third will never pay for the care they got.  I was up all night giving charity care.  Hospitals get a bundled payment acording to their relative burden of uninsured. There is no such thing for docs.  We drive around to the ERs all night seeing people, many of who have no intention of paying. 

I used to consider this part of the privilege of medicine, of caring for people when they are most vulnerable.  However I am running into such an entitled selfish hateful mentality particularly among those on medicaid or who never intend to contribute to society, that I'm getting really burned out.

We have created a whole subset in society who clearly think they are just owed stuff out of the hard labor and resources of other people . . .because "it's not fair!" if they don't get free stuff.

It's really discouraging. I went to work at 6 am today, got off at 9 pm.  My kids have no interest whatsoever in medicine.  I used to wish that at least one of them had some interest, but honestly now I'm glad they don't.

I feel like getting a button that says "You don't have a RIGHT to my labor. " I'm sure some asshat would complain that I'm a mean Republican.  Whatever.

When the politicians and lawyers give as much community service as I do month after month, then I'll listen to them.  

Mommas, let your babies be cowboys . . .just don't let 'em be doctors.

63 What about the "fraud and waste" provisions, when do they take effect?

That's a joke, right?

64

@62:  Looks like they're breaking suspending the rules for their convenience until Sunday...I don't know exactly how DemonPass fits in now, or if it even needs to if the "rules" no longer apply. 

Good grief, who the f*ck knows what they're doing and whether they'll get away with it any more?

/

65 Sorry. I'm crossing this over from the ONT:


Has this story been headlined? If it's true, I think I'm going to be physically sick. If you've been following the forced California drought story for the last year or so, be prepared to throw up....

article

-------------
Costa said Friday that he used some of his time with President Barack Obama to urge more consideration for the Valley's water and employment needs. Obama said he understood, Costa reported.
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This is a taste of third world leadership... in the greatest fucking country in the world. I can't believe I'm witnessing it.

66 @62 It means tyranny is in full force in the former republic known as the United States of America.

67 Have you all moved south yet?

68 Well, if the rules are suspended, then nothing's stopping us from arresting the bastards...right now....and stopping this BS.  Right?

69 "a special kind of stupid"

About those newly announced plans for building in Israeli "settlements:" more lies.  What a surprise.

The article is a good read for anyone who gives a shzt about the truth regarding the latest dustup involving Joe Biden and Hillary in Israel.

What an ass this Administration is.  Even "Jimmah" wasn't this frikkin stupid.

70

Rat Patrol...how far south do we need to move? 

I have plans for Mexico, once all of it's citizens have come up here to take our crappiest jobs/get on USSA welfare.  We go there and turn Mexico into one fine and dandy capitalist republic, whaddayathink?

71 Our State Dept. -- and now our prez -- have a special love of sucking Sunni dick. That's where the money is.

72 #49

That was Richard Nixon who said "I am now a Keynesian in economics." Which was only the beginning of Nixon economic stupidity. With Republicans like him, who needed Democrats to screw up the economy?
 

73

I figure if Texas survives the breakup, we conquer Mexico, set up a new petroleum based super power and kick the shit out of anyone who looks cross-eyed at us.

Hot latina war brides, beach front property and easy living for the veterans. I'm thinking something along the lines of Alexander's little romp across the world.

74 In the real world of fraud, abuse, and administrative frictional losses, you can probably triple that to around $10B.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at March 19, 2010 01:00 AM (9IdlD)

Too true.  Of course, the Left will say THIS TIME our idiotic Left-wing plan will work and will actually cost less, not more, than budgeted.  We all know the oft-used defintion of "insanity" and we're seeing it on display right in front of our eyes.  This is what happens when you have arrogant piles of crap like Obama and Pelosi in charge.  They think their mere presence will ensure success.  Puh-lease.  Never has there been too more unqualified people to be in positions of leadership in this country.

Some will say I'm exaggerating but if they pass this thing, the America we all remember and love will be gone for good.  For example, forced purchase of health care?  What happened to having the right to choose regarding matters involving your own body anyway?  That mantra isn't convenient for the Left in this debate, is it?  Then, of course, we have the financial impact of this legislation, which will ensure we eventually go into default after years of little to no economic growth.

75 H.Res. 1190 - Providing for consideration of motions to suspend the Rules (Rep. Slaughter – Rules)

That's the Slaughter rule they just voted on. Congressman Griffith’s Resolution Ensuring an Up or Down Vote on Health Care–Leadership Recommends a NO VOTE (15 minute vote). 222 Yes to 203 No.

And also...

Adoption Of H.Res. 1190, the rule making in order motions to suspend the rules through Sunday, March 21 (5 minute vote). 232 Yes to 187 No.

So what was the second vote?
Why did more vote for the adoption than the up or down vote?

Maybe a B-1 bomber could accidently drop 40,000 lbs of bombs on the whole nest... it's the only way to be sure!

76

Costa said Friday that he used some of his time with President Barack Obama to urge more consideration for the Valley's water and employment needs. Obama said he understood, Costa reported.

Ha!  Chump.

Get it in writing, douchebag.  All of Obama's promises come with an expiration date and not only was yours the moment you left the room, he couldn't even work up the energy to lie to you.

If they were corrupt and smart, at least I could respect the Deemocrats.

77

Ummm...they lie

Never heard of it.

78 What he said.

79 That was Richard Nixon who said "I am now a Keynesian in economics." Which was only the beginning of Nixon economic stupidity. With Republicans like him, who needed Democrats to screw up the economy?

Posted by: epobirs at March 19, 2010 01:37 AM (Bk4z/)

Nixon's idiotic economic policies, like imposing wage and price controls, is also the primary reason we ended up with a health care system dominated by employer provided health insurance, which created many of the problems this horrible Democrat health care plan is claiming to address.  That's just one of many reasons why I laugh at liberals that try to claim that Nixon was a conservative.

80

Dammit, this whole mess pisses me off sooooo bad.

I gotta get some fresh air, find some hobos for target practice. 

Later.

81 There's an article of at The Hill about the IRS being used to go after people who don't have health care. The article in itself is brief.

However, there are 13 pages of comments, something like 231 when I looked earlier this evening.

The majority of them were very, very angry.

You know, using the R*vo1ution word.

I don't ever remember people getting this angry before.

He11, I've never been this angry before.

82 Well we've been fucked over, betrayed and invaded. Now they want to steal the last of our wealth and dignity. Why would anyone get pissed about that?

83 they lie and no one cares. A politician lying, heck if they don't lie it's a story.
I don't think they (the politicians) know the fire they are playing with. The tea partiers have been pretty nice so far. But if they give a free pass to executive orders and no longer even vote on bills. I think it may blow. If  folks feel can't be heard unless they are violent. If they can't get attention. If they are blown off as extremists. Most of them are not, but they may feel there is no other recource than get extreme.
Hell it will make the French revolution look like a lovein.

84 Hell it will make the French revolution look like a lovein.

Posted by: jamie at March 19, 2010 02:31 AM (CTJDC)

It won't be the Tea Partiers who do it. It will be people who are an embarassment and in some cases criminals. That is what happened in the French Resistance and in most other such events. They should take heed of the Tea Partiers because the crowd that may come after them will be far less pleasant or likable!

85 The plan is to hire 12,000 more IRS agents to enforce health care.  This is insane.

86

GE bringing good crony capitalist monopoly back to life.

 

I kid you not, GE is running spots on Rush Limbaugh's show, featuring Ronald Reagan.  Back in the 50's Reagan was a paid spokesman for GE, they've dug out the audio from those days and are using it.  Reagan is spinning in his grave!

87 Has anyone figured out where all the money is going if we aren't getting any better care or more people?

88

Kudos on the Judas Priest, Purple.

Keep those moobs covered and keep on posting the goods!

Also  -  Never trust a Pali sympathizer.  Never.

Also² -  Didn't Hilary claim Jewish Heritage when running in NY state?  Indeed.

89

"The plan is to hire 12,000 more IRS agents to enforce health care.  This is insane."

Est $100k per agent (salary + fringe + retirement) = $12 billion/yr

90

I've been making a mental list of acquaintances who are Obama voters.  Specifically, I'm targetting one guy who I see on Fall Saturdays during football season (watching games together at one of my friend's house).  If my wife ends up losing her job in the medical field due to Obamacare, I am going to kick the living sh*t out of him just for fun. 

Shouldn't be tough - he's a fat, drunk, lazy, cokehead, who likes to shoot his mouth off about how unfair it is that other people make more money than he does.  Actually, I'd like to kick his a$$ anyway, but the passage of ObamaCare would give me a good excuse.

 

91 I say it won't cost a dime less than 3 trillion. This who CBO exercise is designed for the useful idiots, the lame stream media, to quote.

Looks like 'free' costs a pretty penny.

92 2023....Heh like we are going to make it that long. I'm betting the SHTF long before that.

93 We should be working really hard to get Betsy Markey out in Colorado. It's an easy pick-up in that district, and she's in the pocket of the SEIU, newcomers to this neck of the woods.

94 I keep waiting for you to post "Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap." And if the unthinkable ends up happening maybe post "Run to the Hills."

95 Health Care.  The Democrats don't care about health per se, they only want "To Serve Man" (and for the same reason).

96 The plan is to hire 12,000 more IRS agents to enforce health care.  This is insane.

I heard 16,000.

97 Don't worry, I'll control the health insurance companies soon enough!

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