1 charts? we don't need no stinkin' charts.....

2 Up is the new down.

3
Thanks, democrats.

You guys are so smart, with your taxing and spending and unions and gag-me-with-a spoon populism.  gimme.

4 Turn the charts upside down. See? All better.

5 The combination of Sterno/paint huffing and internet porn takes the edge off the bad news.

6 Is that why it's called the "Huffing"ton post? 

7 It's a good thing the approaching thermonuclear war is going to make these charts less important.

8

Does anyone know the story behind "Business Insider"?

Who are those guys?

Who's funding them?

 

9 chart 11 states that some manufacturing employees are starting to work overtime.......that's because businesses were forced to lay off so many people due to the down turn so the people left are doing the work of ten or more people.....

10 Next time can we get Pie Charts, PA? I much prefer pie charts.

11

Who are those guys?  Who's funding them?

The dark side of the force.

12
If you're really in the mood for sickness, there's this.

13 The question is moot.

14 mmmmm... sterno....

15 don't question authority

16

Five months after U.S. Rep. Parker Griffith switched parties, the voters of North Alabama switched congressmen.

On Tuesday, Republican challenger and long-time conservative Mo Brooks handily won the three-way GOP primary, earning 35,712 votes, or 51 percent, and sending the incumbent home. Brooks avoided a runoff by about 600 votes.

Griffith received 23,495 votes, or 33 percent, and former Navy pilot Les Phillip earned 11,066 votes, or 16 percent

looks like the Alabamans weren't fooled by the party switcher. Now we will have a republican pick up that is actually filled by a conservative republican.

17 Numbers, bah!  Why do those matter when I can invent my own reality and substitute it for yours?!

18

It's a good thing the approaching thermonuclear war is going to make these charts less important.

great, all the glass workers in the middle east will lose their jobs due to the coming over abundance of glass over there

19

Wow - employment in durable goods manufacturing started its nosedive during the Bush 43 administration.

Good grief.

 

20 15 don't question authority

Question Liberal Authority!

21
Old and busted: Château Lafite Rothschild
The new hotness: Sterno

22

Manufacturing employment also fell off a cliff during Bush 43.

 

23
Two ARRA signs have been on a stretch of road in Somerville, MA for several months.

"This Project Funded by..."
"Putting America Back To Work"

Nothing, NOTHING is happening on this 'project.' There is no project. Just signs.


And this is happening all over the country. They spent millions of $$ on ARRA signs to be planted at sites with no construction even close to commencing. It's a sham. It's all a fucking sham.

24 started its nosedive during the Bush 43 administration.

Pulling out of the tech bubble bust/recession took a while.

25 Those charts are saying: structural change. In other words, we are in a very different situation now than we've ever been before. We have been in deep recessions before, but never with so much debt and with so many unfunded entitlements. We cannot rely on the private sector to propel the economy forward as it did in the past -- onerous governmental regulations and increased global competition combine to suppress that sector. We wanted to be Europe, and we got our wish. High structural unemployment, an overbearing regulatory apparatus, stagnant GDP growth, enormous debt relative to GDP, and a vast unsustainable welfare state.

26
Les Phillip did that shitty?

27 'Fucked' is the new normal.

28 12
If you're really in the mood for sickness, there's this.

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at June 02, 2010 09:53 AM (0fzsA)

Pelosi in my opinion(whateverthefuckthat'sworth) is possibly the single most vile, evil, disgusting politician this country has ever elected to office.

29
Too bad his name wasn't Mo' Phillip.

Mo' is better than Les.

30

In fairness, I'm looking a little closer at those graphs, and the collapse in durable goods & manufacturing began at the end of the Bubba administration, and continued into the beginning of Bush 43.

It's just that in Bush 43, they never rebounded - it was as though Wile E Coyote hit the canyon floor, but this time, he couldn't bounce back.

 

31 single most vile, evil, disgusting politician this country has ever elected to office.

You forgot stupid.  She's also a strong candidate for stupidest.

32

19 Employment in durable goods manufacturing started its nosedive during the Bush 43 administration.........

Makes sense to me, Bush 41 supported NAFTA, and Bill Clinton signed it into law.  Clinton also had a lot to do with the Chinese, IIRC his administration received huge contributions from them, and lots of American manufacturing jobs moved to China in return.  Manufacturing is relatively easy to move once the ball gets rolling, and helping in that regards were the big industrial unions.  If the US govt is encouraging you to move through tax policies, and your workforce here in the USA is trying to bankrupt you, why not move offshore?

As Jeremiah Wright says, those chickens have come home to roost.

33 Did Mann put those hockey sticks together?

34 Maybe Aliens will come here and loan us money.

35 You forgot stupid.  She's also a strong candidate for stupidest.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at June 02, 2010 10:02 AM (CEKC0)

I would think you could deforest most of Oregon printing out the adjectives to describe the pile of shit that is Nazi Pelosi.

36 Now all we need is Ross Perot

37 It's just that in Bush 43, they never rebounded

Actually, they did start to rebound.  That apparently stopped when the Pelosi congress was installed.

38

Pelosi in my opinion(whateverthefuckthat'sworth) is possibly the single most vile, evil, disgusting politician this country has ever elected to office.

Posted by: Unclefacts, AoSHQ Professional Debate Team

No disagreement from me.  It astonished me how much power this evil troll of a woman has.

39 Don't forget to check out the 12 charts showing deflation is spreading across our economy. Just more sunshine on a muggy hump day.

40 Maybe Aliens will come here and loan us money.

That sounds more promising than anything I've seen so far out of this junta.

41
I much prefer pie charts.

Mmmm, delicious pie charts of doom with my sterno mmmmm.

42 Praise Allah for Barack Obama ....

43

I got me a chart.....

_{thumb pointer} ^middle _{ring pinky}

44 Damn you to hell Thanks PA. I guess I chose the wrong week to quit sniffing glue.

45 There was some crazy little guy who ran for President who predicted some sort of 'giant sucking sound' of job losses in manufacturing. He had all kinds of neat charts and spoke with a funny Texas accent. He didn't win, but his prediction came true, very slowly, inch by inch over the next eight years.

Posted by: Upscale Community Organizing Thought Criminal at June 02, 2010 10:06 AM (IhHdM)

Doesn't make him any less batshit, monkeyhumping nuts though.

46 deflation is spreading across our economy

Shit...I just dusted off all my old WIN buttons last week. 

47
I cannot believe it.
We're already in June and the Republicans didn't even think about coming up with some creative gimmick like the Contract With America.

48 Say, did anyone notice that the front page of Business Insider features a story about a Texan soldier who lost his house while he was in Iraq because his homeowners association foreclosed - for missed HOA dues totalling $800?!?

49

Manufacturing and service jobs have moved over-seas because of UNIONS.

Bloated priced-out-of-the-market UNION labor costs have forced our manufacturing base overseas.  And the democrats want MORE.

You want to know why you get a dude in India every time you call the airlines or the cellular phone company or the whatever.....?  American labor UNIONS.

50

The only thing Pelosi does right is get dressed in the morning.  Whoever dresses her has good taste and knows how to make a 60-something old bag look like a million bucks.  Doesn't hurt that she actually has about $60 million in personal wealth.  That buys a lot of silk purses.

 

51 Could someone thell me the best place to purchase a large quantity of Baby Ruth Bars? I would like to store up on their peanutty, chewy goodness. Just askin.

52 Shit...I just dusted off all my old WIN buttons last week.

Might as well sell them on E-bay while you can, and invest the proceeds in something useful, like ammo.

53 #32  You forgot stupid.  She's also a strong candidate for stupidest.

Yes, but that doesn't temper her ambitions.  Stupid and ambitious...Gaia help us all.

The only things going up, up, up are the length of unemployment time, the US population, number of gov't employees, and the US population.

54 50 Say, did anyone notice that the front page of Business Insider features a story about a Texan soldier who lost his house while he was in Iraq because his homeowners association foreclosed - for missed HOA dues totalling $800?!?

Posted by: stuiec at June 02, 2010 10:08 AM (W+GYq)

Hmmm......sounds fishy....they forced the sale? Someone needs to take some of that stored up ammo they have and do some HOA ass target practice!

55 If there is any good news to any of this, it's that America will probably win the "race to the bottom". Our economy and currency are going to shit less fast than Europe's and Asia's (China will not save us). Our standard of living will fall, but not by as much as Europe's -- comparatively, we're still going to be a lot better off than they are. And weirdly, I am optimistic over the longer term. These fundamental structural problems will either force us to make changes or destroy us; there is no in-between. Americans, historically, tend to ignore problems until they become acute but then act in concert to fix the problem. We face several decades of straitened circumstances, but once the huge demographic bolus of the Boomer generation has been passed, we should be okay again.

56 You forgot stupid.  She's also a strong candidate for stupidest.

There's an old feminist trope about we'll know equality has been achieved when an incompetent woman can rise as far as an incompetent man.

Mission accomplished, womyn.  (Now go get a real job, mmm-kay?)

57 Green Shoots!!!

Recovery Around the Corner!!!!

Recovery Right on Track!!!!

58

You know, so many of the issues depicted by those charts were just darn...

unexpected.

 

 

59
ot:
The obsessive freak-show that moved in next to the Palin family - says he's not calling Palin a Nazi, but that she's LIKE a Nazi.  See.


...and if you don't agree with the obsessive freak-show who moved in next to Palin, you're a Nazi too!

60 Pelosi isn't just your run of the mill stupid. She's something special. Her brand of stupid is more like a natural phenomenon. Like Black holes. Mysterious, untouchable, unobservable except for the effect it has on surrounding bodies. Sucking all intelligence and light into a singularity never to be heard from again. Her stupid warps the surrounding space into the shape of a dumbell. She requires further study.

61 Don't forget to check out the 12 charts showing deflation is spreading across our economy. Just more sunshine on a muggy hump day.

Deflation is good for everyone but the state and the pseudo-economic sectors that are wholly dependent on it. Finance, for example.

It's also, as your lying eyes may have noticed while they're shopping, not happening.

62 Tag deflation!

63 In the red is the new black.

64
No politically correct small talk on the part of the Black Panthers!....so, we
have a Korean War coming. A Mideast War coming. Looks like we got ourselves a Civil War coming. Times are getting tough. Are you prepared?

When they're not intimidating voters, the New Black Panther Party also holds
conventions. This year's is in Atlanta. At the risk of giving them attention,
here's an inflammatory quote from their party chairman, Malik Zulu Shabazz,
Esq.

“With the rise of the Tea Party, the white-right and other racist forces. With gun sales nationwide at an all time high amongst whites, with a mood that is more anti-Black than any time recent, it is imperative that we organize our forces, pool our resources and prepare for war!”

Obama has exposed the face of the left in this country and of blacks in particular like nothing else I can think of. What this country thought about the left has now been proven beyond a shadow of doubt. Thank you barry, you stuck a dagger in the heart of liberalism like no one else. Nancy can FOAD too.

65 The Cold War never ended. The USSR is alive and well. Right here at home.

66 Manufacturing and service jobs have moved over-seas because of UNIONS.

Don't forget the EPA.  Destroyed the U.S. textile industry.  Pakistan doesn't demand  wastewater be potable.

67

The "median number of months unemployed" chart is the scary one - shows clearly how bad things have become.  The manufacturing overtime is a good sign though - real, non-government demand for labor increasing.

Ultimately, the loss of manufacturing jobs is more due to automation than offshoring IMO.  China's been losing manufacturing jobs as well: hard to work cheaper than a robot.  Long term, that's a good thing, as automated manufacturing drives down the price we pay for everything, but the transition isn't helping right now.

I drive past the now-closed NUMMI plant every day.  Tesla bought the site and it will eventually re-open. I suspect it will have far fewer workers and more robots, but still it's a sign that at least some jobs are coming back.

68 58 You forgot stupid.  She's also a strong candidate for stupidest.

There's an old feminist trope about we'll know equality has been achieved when an incompetent woman can rise as far as an incompetent man.

Mission accomplished, womyn.  (Now go get a real job, mmm-kay?)

Posted by: HeatherRadish at June 02, 2010 10:12 AM (mR7mk)

I think the first of those would ahve been Senator Patty Murray in Washington State when she won her US Senate race in the early 90's. Her first time on National Television her freshman year was to boldly state that we needed to tax gun shop owners until they could no longer stay in business in order to stop the sale of fire arms. Scary thing is she continues to incompetantly represent Washington State side by side with Maria Cantwell. Thank you YEAR OF THE WOMEN!

69 I still love what David Feherty said about the troops and Pelosi.

If a soldier found himself with a gun with only 2 rounds left and he was in an elevator with Pelosi, Reid and Bin Laden.   Pelosi would get shot twice and Bin Laden and Reid would be strangled.

70 One of the strange aspects of automation is that America exports more finished goods now than we ever have. We are a huge manufacturing power. It's just that much of the manufacturing industry has been automated to the point that it's no longer necessary to employ very many people. Farming is another example. It used to be highly labor-intensive and thus was a large employer at the low end of the labor market. Now...it's a tiny fraction of total payroll. Much farming, even small family-farming, is automated and machine-driven.

71

OT:  Ha haaaa, Wee Wee is so toxic his fellow dems run and hide when he comes to town!

72 didn't even think about coming up with some creative gimmick like the Contract With America

You don't really need gimmicks when you've got Obama/Pelosi.

73

And weirdly, I am optimistic over the longer term. These fundamental structural problems will either force us to make changes or destroy us; there is no in-between. Americans, historically, tend to ignore problems until they become acute but then act in concert to fix the problem.

You need to think about who "Americans" are in the 21st Century.

Blue State Americans - blacks, Mexican Indians, unionists, university/media types, corporatists, "middlemen" - they aren't going to support the kinds of changes you're hoping for.

There is still some hope in the Red States.

But given our looming demographic catastrophe, we are nearing the point where free-market/rule-of-law platforms can never again win at the national ballot box.

 

74 I agree about Pelosi and the same can be said of Reid and Obama. Its a damning indicment of the American political system.

75 Murray and Cantwell are impressively stupid, but they didn't get to be Speaker.

76
You don't really need gimmicks when you've got Obama/Pelosi.

That, and thanks to Man Of Steele, they don't have any $$$ for gimmicks anyway.

77 We have a political class that is happy and eager to merely reign over the steady decline of America; where you see hard times and a shitty life, they see endless lavish state dinners and job security.

Which side are we going to allow to win?

When you see candidates running for office on the platform of repealing all sorts of laws you will know the electorate has woken up to the noose that has slipped ever and ever tighter around our necks.

Here's a list of a few laws that need to go if we are ever to get our freedom back--we must push back, it is too late to say, "Here, and no farther."

Seat belt laws
labeling laws
highway speed limits
national drinking age
smoking laws
inspection fees
occupation licenses
hunting and fishing licenses

Most seem innocuous but every one adds up to an intrusive state meddling in every aspect of your daily life. And that's the intent: To see the government everywhere you look; the ever-present video monitor of the fascist state is right there in front of you in the mundane and useless regulations you willingly comply with.

Basically, I'd say any law passed in the last 100 years needs to be sun-setted and re-evaluated as to whether it has had any of the intended benefits and whether the intended and unintended costs justify it.

78 Monty the neo-luddite?

79 Posted by: jimmuy at June 02, 2010 10:27 AM (fOKRF)

Jimmuy, I couldn't agree with you more.  I have long said that the Congress (state and Fed) should be judged on how many laws they repealed, not on how much shit they piled on.

When I listen to the nonsense that comes out of Annapolis every April (I live in MD) and the newsreaders state the "accomplishments" of the session to include bans on texting while driving, helmet/seatbelt laws, etc. I want to fucking scream.

Our liberty is being taken away piece by piece and has been for a long time.

80

We have a political class that is happy and eager to merely reign over the steady decline of America; where you see hard times and a shitty life, they see endless lavish state dinners and job security.

We have a political class which is actively working to bring about the destruction of America.

They are all nihilists - all of them.

 

81 Those charts are a bummer, but the 'Bring Your Own Bikini' ad certainly lifted my..uh...spirits.

82 Monty the neo-luddite? Join me, comrades! You have nothing to lose but your iPods! Together we shall smash the dehumanizing machines and return Man to his natural state!* *Laboring like a donkey for a pitiful wage and dying of easily-preventable illnesses at the age of 50 or so.

83

Does anyone know the story behind "Business Insider"?

Who are those guys?

Who's funding them?

 Remember the internet bubble? Henry Blodget was a rock star equities analyst and media darling. He was out there pimping, pimping, pimping internet stocks. Everything he reviewed was going to the moon.

Meanwhile, he was laughing about the junk he was pushing in private emails to his buddies.

The crash came and they kicked him off Wall St. Now he runs Business Insider. He's a piece of garbage, but I admit to reading it pretty regularly. A lot of it is fluff, overly simplistic analysis, and sensationalism.

84 Hmmm......sounds fishy....they forced the sale?

Yes, sounds real fishy. It is actually against the law to foreclose on assets of servicemen serving overseas.

This is either a false story or some homeowner's association is about to get their asses sued off.

85 People aren't going to just roll over and die. Underground economies are not only being encouraged right now, they are practically being guaranteed by our laws, which make it next to impossible to hire anyone legally.

86 I'm so poor nobody will steel my identity.

87 Sooo.... how 'bout that Florida GOP. The former chairman Jim Greer's off to the pokey; somewhat ironic given that Florida takes away the franchise from felons

88

@79

Sorry, can't go with the dropping of hunting and fishing licenses. They fund the Fish and Wildlife departments, who manage game and non game populations for the benefit of those who pay the fees. Like ME. No licenses, no wildlife, no hunting and fishing. The end. Those fees are just about the only ones that aren't completely wasted. The Arkansas Fish and Game Commission has brought back the deer, the turkeys, elk, black bear, and wood ducks, along with many others. They are the only state agency in Arkansas that can ask for a fee increase and the voters will pass it, while all others are defeated. They do a great job, and I support them. Here in Arkansas, they bought and leased vast areas of forest for public hunting and fishing. In places like Texas, only those with money to spend get to hunt, for the most  part. I prefer our system.

89 #84  Join me, comrades! You have nothing to lose but your iPods! Together we shall smash the dehumanizing machines and return Man to his natural state!*

*Laboring like a donkey for a pitiful wage and dying of easily-preventable illnesses at the age of 50 or so.

The environmentalist wackos would love that right up to the point where they started dying off. 

And a certain class of our "betters" would love it if 90% of the population died off.

90 Seat belt laws - let this be a function of insurance policies, labeling laws - could be an industry standard tied to a trademark, you want to know whats in it, look for the mark, highway speed limits - if it is a safety issue then either make it the officer's judgement and/or bumps/grills/rumble strips, national drinking age - pick a single point of legal maturity for all things drinking, emancipation, consent, military service, voting, taxes, health insurance, etc. , smoking laws - mixed here because your enjoyment disturbs others, inspection fees - if reasonable and tied to actual costs, occupation licenses - I'm ok with it, if reasonable and necessary, hunting and fishing licenses, Ok - management of the commons is a long established government role.

91 Those manufacturing and durable goods charts are interesting, you can pick out 9/11 and the 2006 elections perfectly.

92 You see how those pointy lines go upward?  That means bigger numbers, and bigger is always better!  You'd think you wingnuts would be thanking me. 

93 Together we shall smash the dehumanizing machines and return Man to his natural state!*

*Laboring like a donkey for a pitiful wage and dying of easily-preventable illnesses at the age of 50 or so.


That sounds a lot Michelle Obama and the food supply.  Food is abundant, affordable, easily transportable, some forms can be stored quite awhile without spoilage, and a lot of it doesn't require much skill/effort/intelligence to prepare at home, and this is ZOMG CRISIS GOVERNMENT MUST FIX! 

94 Does anyone know if the basket of commodities measured in those charts has remained static?

95 Not to make light of this horrific attack, but I thought the enlightened socialist state of Britain no longer had gun violence.

Five dead, 25 wounded: Cabbie, 52, kills 'his own mother' and at least three others before shooting himself

Police today found the body of a gunman who shot dead at least four people after going on a bloody rampage in the Lake District. Derrick Bird, 52, was discovered in woodland near Boot, Cumbria, by police. He had shot himself. Witnesses today described horrific scenes as the cab driver, who had recently become a grandfather, shot his victims in the head at point blank range. One of the dead is believed to be his own mother

96 Barry's just breaking a few eggs to make his workers' paradise omlet

97 national drinking age - pick a single point of legal maturity for all things drinking, emancipation, consent, military service, voting, taxes, health insurance, etc. ,

Absolutely. 

98 When I was living in Texas, they lowered the drinking age to 18 for a while, but then kids started showing up for High School class drunk. They raised it back up.

99

I'm so proud to be included in so many charts I don't know what to do. However, with all of my experience in manufacturing, I can't get anyone to even look at my resume for fear that I'll want more than the minimum wage. It seems a shame that I put in all that time and education for nothing.

BTW, what do you cut mix Sterno with?

100

From Drudge: New York state delayed paying $2.5 billion of bills as a short-term way of staying solvent but its cash crunch could get even worse in August and September, Budget Director Robert Megna said on Tuesday.

Now there's an innovative way to solve our budget woes - don't pay the bill. Gee I wonder how that will affect the interest rates they'll have to offer. Way to increase confidence amongst anyone holding municipal bonds as well. If you do business with governments in Spitzer State, you're going into a brothel without a condom.

101 Heather - at which point we get a little barcode tattoo so that Roethlisberger can't buy you drinks.

102 Zimriel - it beats issuing IOUs that can't cashed, but can be taxed.

103

BTW, what do you cut mix Sterno with?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at June 02, 2010 10:51 AM (i3AsK)

Equal parts despair and misery, with a dash of bitterness.

104

Awesome!

I didn't click on the link and actually analyze (or even read) the charts, because I formulate my opinions quicker than I can gather the information needed to make those opinions.

All I saw was a blue line that went sharply higher recently. That must be Obama's doing! He's a great president!! Just look at the blue line!!!!

105 102

I'm so proud to be included in so many charts I don't know what to do. However, with all of my experience in manufacturing, I can't get anyone to even look at my resume for fear that I'll want more than the minimum wage. It seems a shame that I put in all that time and education for nothing.

The way manufacturing is going in this country, I tell kids to stay away from engineering. If they can't get you cheap, they don't want you, and the degree is just too much work to get when you can go into nursing and make much more money. And yes, I'm an engineer. But Zero is trying to fuck up the nursing profession now, so I don't know.

106

Average Joes and Janes know it's bad.  Breitbart is reporting the highest numbers of candidates in decades.  http://tinyurl.com/2d47ca8

 

107 But Obama's not trying to make things worse on purpose. That's just crazy talk.

108 Wheat at $3.78 today.

109 Backwards Boy - Rosetta Stone. Everyone still needs a set of trusted eyeballs to go check on the process. Lots of frequent flyer miles too.

110 RE: Fish and Game Departments--in Idaho they brought back wolves, and the deer and elk populations have fallen. So, it's not like they know what they are doing and they're run, by and large, by people who were required to get a "degree" from the very belly of the beast that has as a life mission the control and subjugation of free men.

Individuals, hunting and fishing for their own sustenance are not a threat to the commons--it is the commercial harvesting that is depleting. Here's all that is needed to maintain the populations: No resale or transfer for value of any part of any wild animal. I'd say tragedy of the commons is a false narrative with no basis in fact or reality, Hardin never found a real-life example of such happening through the actions of individuals, that I know of, and I don't think anyone has bothered to look assuming the "truth" of the tale. (The state and industry, however, are another matter.)

What I'm looking at are fees and costs that are disguised taxes and general revenue sources. Your speeding ticket goes into the general revenue fund--force all speeding fines to be paid to the local school district reading fund and see how many motorcycle cops you see hiding behind bushes and trees.

111 Uh-oh, Gabe's tweet says "progressives" want the FCC to monitor "hate speech" on the web. Methinks they will find far worse on lefty sites - but maybe we will get a better class of troll, an FCC contractor.

112 101 When I was living in Texas, they lowered the drinking age to 18 for a while, but then kids started showing up for High School class drunk. They raised it back up.

Posted by: maddogg at June 02, 2010 10:50 AM (OlN4e)

Which points to the real problem- the patients are running the asylum.  When I was in high school the legal drinking age was 18, but nobody even THOUGHT about drinking on school grounds, let alone showing up to class drunk, because there were serious consequences, both in school and at home, for doing so.

113 Now there's an innovative way to solve our budget woes - don't pay the bill. Hey...it worked for people who don't want to pay their mortgages. Hell, let's all do it! Let's just not pay our bills! What could go wrong?

114

A MUST watch video about what really happened regarding the Gaza ship boardings. It's not surprising that what is being reported in the MFM is completely opposite of what really happened.

Keeping Lies Afloat http://bit.ly/aWgNkS

115 Jimmuy, I've seen unmanaged deer populations ravage areas. The over-population of deer and elk may make hunting easier; but they tear the shit out of everything else. I've enjoyed Idaho elk backstrap every year since about 1998, so I think they are doing a decent job.

116

113 RE: Fish and Game Departments--in Idaho they brought back wolves, and the deer and elk populations have fallen. So, it's not like they know what they are doing and they're run, by and large, by people who were required to get a "degree" from the very belly of the beast that has as a life mission the control and subjugation of free men.

Well, I got my first degree in Wildlife Management in New Mexico, and I assure you that my professors were not politically motivated. No politics that I could find in entomology, limnology, ecology of systems, Ichtheology,genetics, game population management techniques, etc. that I could discern.

Here in Arkansas, the AF&G Com. is independently funded. The politicians have tried and tried to take them under control, by taking control of their finances (to steal their money for social programs) but the voters rebuff them. If leftards are running your show, vote them out, and let your Game people run their own show. Some game populations are so closely monitored here, you have to call the dept. every morning to see if the quotas have been filled prior to bear hunting. Result? Bears, lots of bears, just the way I like it. Some people complain, the same ones who go out and spotlight deer in the wee hours. Our game laws are for the benefit of legal hunters and fisherman. I have never found them to limit my freedom, as I don't count over harvest as one of them. The minute people think the dept. is run for political ends, the rug will be pulled.

And yeah, they do know what they are doing. 

117 Sorry, can't go with the dropping of hunting and fishing licenses. They fund the Fish and Wildlife departments, who manage game and non game populations for the benefit of those who pay the fees...

That was true at one time, a fact that the eco-idiots refuse to acknowledge.  Conservation was originally started and was successful because of the hunters and fishers. Unfortunately since hunting and fishing is widely popular those license fees have become nothing more than a never ending slush fund.  In addition, licensing instead of being a revenue source for conservation has become a source of excessive regulation.

It all started with the migratory bird act which is blatantly unconstitutional. It was immediately challenged in court. But in Missouri v. Holland the court ruled that treaties were the equivalent of an amendment to the Constitution even though they are not ratified by the States or passed in the House as normally required.  This is also where the term "living Constitution" was born.

We now have a host of eco-bullshit laws on the books. I would continue to support hunting and fishing licenses IF:

1. They were State related only.
2. ALL license fees were strictly dedicated to hunting and fishing related activity.
3. No restrictions are allowed on the issuance of licenses for anything other than preserving game herds.

Also Re 18 year olds and drunk in High School.

When I was in HS we a couple of students who would show up for afternoon classes with the odor of liquor. The drinking age was 21.    I don't think the age makes a whole lot of difference.  But if we are going to make 21 the age to drink, then ALL laws and regulations should reflect that age as well. i.e. no voting or joining the military until 21.

118 One of the dead is believed to be his own mother

Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at June 02, 2010 10:45 AM (9hSKh)

Wow!  Time travel AND a sex change!

119 Even more depressing: read thru that whole BusinessInsider site.

120 @lgw re: Tesla: yeah, Nummi's going to be built up really slow. Instead of 10,000 workers they're shooting for 1000. They're going to reach 1000 by hiring *50* per month.

121 IP = 116.21.4.24

122

"And this is happening all over the country. They spent millions of $$ on ARRA signs to be planted at sites with no construction even close to commencing. It's a sham. It's all a fucking sham."

I said it when ARRA / TIGER was first rolled out, and I'll say it again.  It takes a strong man of leadership and presence to calmly gaze upon a national crisis like our economic collapse and boldly design a logo.

123 Would any of you like to see the chart of my menstrual cycles? That's uplifting to anyone.

124

Here, I think you forgot this.

*hands Filly an Amanda Marcotte sockpuppet*

125

the beast that has as a life mission the control and subjugation of free men

the beast that has as a life mission the control and subjugation and destruction of free men

FTFY.

 

126 77 Murray and Cantwell are impressively stupid, but they didn't get to be Speaker.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at June 02, 2010 10:26 AM (mR7mk)

GOD don't even SAY that.......if either achieved that, the world would truly be off its axis.

127 Posted by: Zimriel at June 02, 2010 10:52 AM (9Sbz+)

does this mean they aren't paying tax refunds?

128

@t-bird

Yep, no solace for the local economy yet, but still it's hundreds of jobs more this year than Fremont could expect a few weeks ago.  A small sign, but at least it's more jobs, not less.

@Monty

Long term I think this is a great trend, as food and manufactured goods are fantastically cheap compared to pre-WWII, and fewer people are needed to produce the necessities.  Still, I don't think anyone has figured out yet what everyone is supposed to do when we get to the point where farming and manufacturing are fully automated and basic necessities are nearly free.  Nearly free still isn't free, there are only so many engineering/design jobs, and government hand-outs clearly aren't the way, so what are people supposed to do to be productive?  America clearly needs to figure that out, since Europe doesn't even seem interested in the question.

One thing's certain: society starts to fall apart when people aren't grounded in helping to create something that other people want.

 

129 I know you guys don't like to see charts like this but isn't it better to know as much as you can and then make conclusions.