1

was the thief an Illinois Nazi?

I f*cking hate Illinois Nazis.

2 What is the over/under on that 80 year old guy going to jail for having a gun and using it?

3 That old man violated his constitutional right to burglarize!

4 Don't touch his Gran Torino.

5

Hotair sent out a whole bunch of email to people warning that just writing 'revolution' or 'secession' using other characters to sidestep the industrial grade PC filter would result in immediate bannings. That's the fallout of the trout attack over there. They went nuts.

SECESSION!!!

 

6

What is the over/under on that 80 year old guy going to jail for having a gun and using it?

I am willing to bet he doesn't go to jail, but is brought up on charges for illegally owning a firearm. I then will be the NRA backs this guy to the hilt and uses this to show that the Chicago gun back will kill the elderly and defensless and protects the thugs who won't obey the laws on the books anyway.

7 I heard the lawyer offered to defend him for free.

8 What is the over/under on that 80 year old guy going to jail for having a gun and using it?

Need to know the race of the guy, the race of the perp, and if/how the guy was connected...

9 Chicago Lawyer Says heÂ’ll represent The 85[sic] year-old homeowner for free!

10 I hear it's better to shoot the perp in your house if possible.I'm sure he had no choice.

11 Dollars to donuts (pesos to churros?) that the intruder was an illegal alien, er, undocumented immigrant. Can't wait for that one.

12

I hear it's better to shoot the perp in your house if possible.I'm sure he had no choice.

 

sadly, i was just thinking that. Did he shoot the guy on the porch or in his home. I was under the impression you can only shoot someone who breaks into your house, not just on your property. Otherwise all elderly people would shoot that damned whipper snappers that congregate in their yards.

that said, i think the fact the perp fired his gun will mitigate the fact he was on the porch.

I wonder who fired first?

I hope this guy doesn't get in any trouble.

13 fuck hot air. seriously.

14 I want to see if Mayor Meathead will go after the home owner for owning a gun. Daley is such a dumbass he just might.

15 By the way, Skip Gates had no comment.

16

OT

No Top Headlines (as yet) thread so I will post this here, with a bit of explanation. This was sent to me in an email from someone with military connections.

This is part of the videotape showing the Russian Navy commandos on the Somalian pirate ship. You may remember that the pirates captured a Russian oil tanker. The EuroUnion navy that patrols these waters could not interfere because there could be casualties.

All explanations are in Russian and, with a single exception when a wounded pirate tells something in English, all conversations are between the commandos - in Russian. Sorry if you don't understand Russian but the pictures speak for themselves.

The soldiers freed their compatriots, moved all the pirates to their own (pirate) ship, searched the pirate ship for weapons and explosives, and took seven Somalian pirates. Then they left the ship and exploded it with all remaining pirates on it.

I did note that the Russkie Commander can speak near perfect English, right down to the proper use of profanity. BTW, this is the correct and time tested method of getting along with pirates.

17 i think the vet will be ok on this.....the perp was breaking in...had a gun....fired his gun and was killed.......

18 Gun Clinger, 1. Low-life Dirtbag, 0.

19 The story cited does not specifically state whether the homeowner used a handgun or a long gun.  (Rifle or shotgun).  If I understand right, you can have a long gun in Chicago.  (I don't know the law specifically, but likely similar to DC where you have to keep it disassembled into it's constituent atoms and locked in a platinum lined vault buried beneath a mountain, with ammo stored at least 7 light years away.)

The home invader must have been standing with his feet outside Chicago, though, since we know a revolver is illegal and how could he possibly have such a thing?

20 Crap. link didn't work and now we have a Top Headlines thread. I will try again up there.

21 #5 I got banned from HotAir the weekend of the Healthcare vote. I said it before but it's worth repeating. When they and every other site and pundit are screaming about the impending disaster that is befalling us, and our only options are legal electoral processes and demonstrations (which they counteract via ACORN and thuggery at the polls and in the MFM), then what they hell do they expect when someone notices the 12 trillion dollar gorilla in the room. Allah and Ed are ridiculous, but I still go there for shits and giggles.

22 Illustrates - "that when seconds count, the cops are only minutes away." No specific mention if it was a handgun used by the home owner, the fact the perp went down where he stood tends to make me think the veteran was using "enough gun", maybe a shotgun or 30-30. If not, it was a damn good shot by an 80yo under fire.

23

>> but I still go there for shits and giggles

 

You Americans, with your jokes and humor.

24 I'm going to shoot you in the ass!

25 What all this I hear about veterinarians shooting burglars?  With all the sick puppies in the world you would think that animal doctors would be to busy to take business away from the police.  Especially Army doctors.  Who will look after the military police dogs?

26 good shit maddogg, i wish the camera man had lingered on the electronics rather then AKs.

27

they said in the article both of the elderly people used canes. Maybe he should buy one of those sword cane.

28

It's nice when reality provides the counterarguement to the liberal agenda.  This is why liberals necessarily reject reality. 

What kind of twisted mind values ideology over reality?  What kind of twisted mind would want to leave an 80+ year old couple and their grandchild defenseless in the face of armed, violent, criminals? 

29 HA is a yeast-infected vagina. Best to stay away.

30 The Greatest Generation is still alive and kicking ASS. I read two stories like this in the NY Post police blotter yesterday. One was a 74YO woman mugged at Peter Cooper Village. The kids tried to grab her purse, but she held on tight as they dragged her about a block. Security cameras caught them on tape, and arrests have been made. Another was a 49YO asked an 80YO if he would like some odd jobs done. The old man said he didn't need a handyman. So, the guy attacks the old man with a hammer, hit him in the head a couple times. Then  the old guy grabs the hammer and starts beating down his attacker. He ran off and is still at large.

31 never mind

32 By the way, Skip Gates had no comment.

Is his show "We're All Africans" off the air yet?

33 HA is a yeast-infected vagina.

A sour puss? A Lemon Kitten?

34 What kind of twisted mind would want to leave an 80+ year old couple and their grandchild defenseless in the face of armed, violent, criminals?

The same minds that think octogenarians should be denied medical procedures because treating them "wastes resources" that can be spent on the perp.

35

I wonder who fired first?

I did. 

36 I am sure that the intruder was just some old white guy upset with obamacare or something...

37 5:20 is too late to bust in on old dudes. They're up.

That's sorority-invasion time.

38 then what they hell do they expect when someone notices the 12 13 trillion dollar gorilla in the room.

That's a well-fed gorilla who feels quite at home in our new banana republic.

39 I'm going to stick this rifle up the old man's butt.  Who does he think he is, defending himself in my town?

40 #23 Ach so...... ACH SOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!

41

sadly, i was just thinking that. Did he shoot the guy on the porch or in his home. I was under the impression you can only shoot someone who breaks into your house, not just on your property. Otherwise all elderly people would shoot that damned whipper snappers that congregate in their yards.

that said, i think the fact the perp fired his gun will mitigate the fact he was on the porch.

I wonder who fired first?

I hope this guy doesn't get in any trouble.

Posted by: Ben at May 27, 2010 09:40 AM (wuv1c)

Common law allows for the protection of your CASTLE which is the domain on which it sits as well. When one BREAKS the CLOSE -- crosses your property line, theya re in peril. IF thise guy was on the porch and not RUNNING AWAY, the homeowner can be ok...UNDER COMMON LAW...howevah! Statutes and ordinances may alter that and put conditions that are more restrictive. Remember Texas?  There, you can even shoot a person on yoru neighbors property. So......gotta check the Chicago law.

42 And another thing, these Nazis ain't kosher.

43 If memory serves, isn't Joel Brodsky Blago's attorney?

44

Word Police

that is my concern. I imagine chicago law is a draconian as it gets concerning guns.

I know a lot of states now have those "stand your ground" laws, i know my state of Pennsylvania is in the process of pushing one throught the state legislature, but i can't imagine chicago has one.

I doubt they will press charges. The last thing Dick Daley needs on his anti gun PR offensive is a poster child like this 80 year old vet who probably would have been murdered along with his elderly wife had he not shot the intruder.

45 Joel Brodsky is the attention whore attorney who is currently defending Drew Peterson.  Peterson is the former Bolingbrook, IL police sgt who is suspected of killing his last two wives.  Yes, last two wives.  He's about to go on trial for the murder of wife #3, but wife #4 has been missing for a couple of years and is presumed dead. Spit.

46

If the country has become so unfree that we're not even allowed to talk of secession or of changing our Constitutional structure; those alternatives become not only thinkable, but imperative.

"When in the course of human events..."

47 maddogg: I like the helpful info balloon toward the end "destruction of the ship of pirates".

48

Posted by: Ben at May 27, 2010 10:09 AM (wuv1c)

 

ooops...I had my sock on...it was me, not WORD POLICE.

49

Posted by: Zimriel at May 27, 2010 10:10 AM (9Sbz+)

 

Keep it in perspective...that is a website, not the government. They can restrict you any way they want. First amendment only applies to government restricting you.

50 Mayor Meathead's solution to the crime in Chicago is to offer $75 gift cards to people who turn in guns. Most of the guns that were turned in were rusted out and probably hadn't worked in years but they still got the gift card. Meathead doesn't have any money to hire more cops or let them work more hours but he will piss money away on buying rusty guns

51 I'm reminded of Daley's little stunt with the long arm and the reporters recently. I can only imagine, had that happened in Texas, there might be a special mayoral election in the offing...

52

You Americans, with your jokes and humor.

Posted by: Oberst von Scherbach at May 27, 2010 09:49 AM (WvXvd)

LOL of the day.

Boots on or boots off?

53 On the average, it takes the police 7 minutes to respond to a 911 call, or an emergency call directly phoned to the local station. That's 7 very long minutes if a 30-year old (strong, prime of life) armed goblin is kicking in the door. At the risk of outing myself as a complete gamer moron nerd, let's break that down. there are 6 melee rounds (about 10 seconds) in 1 minute. That's 42 chances for the goblin home invader to successfully enter the house, kill or injure everyone inside, and quickly loot the place before the police cruiser pulls up outside. Want to try out the chances of success on that? Add 6 more rounds/chances for every additional minute it takes for the police to arrive. If the homeowner has a firearm available, his chance of preventing the goblin from breaking in & wreaking havoc are at least equal to the number of shots currently loaded in it.

Politicians and activists who don't want want regular American citizens to own and use firearms want the goblin to break in, do his worst, and evade justice. They may not desire our communities to be overrun by goblins, but that is what is going to happen.   

54 The homeowner is about the age to have served in Korea.  I wouldn't take one of those guys on.  They were honed in Hell.

55 An attorney named Joel Brodsky has already offered to defend him pro bono

For all you Morons, a little nollij:  pro bono means "for publicity."

56 Exdem12- you may be a gamer nerd, but that is an excellent analogy. Well played.

57 #57 I thought pro Bono and anti Cher were not mutually exclusive. Then again, If Bono, Yoko Ono and Sonny Bono formed a band...

58 I believe the 80-year old man (Butch Gant) and the dead intruder (Anthony Nelson) were both black. Heard the shooter's son on Chicago local radio this morning and he had a southern accent. East Garfield Park is a mostly black working class neighborhood on the near west side.

59 #59: ...forget it. Even I can't come up with a fitting punch line for that.

60 Daley will have the old guy hung.  Can't have citizens flouting hiz honor's diktats.  Next thing you know, this kind of stuff will catch on with the other peons. 

61 I eagerly anticipate Da Mair's comments on this gun-caused tragedy.

Better convicted by 12 than carried by 6.

62 Get off my lawn!

63 I couldn't live under the Daley jackboot .
 There's a fully loaded 1911 next to my bed . A loaded Smith revolver in the top drawer of the dresser . A loaded 870 in the gun cabinet in the living room . No trigger locks on any of 'em .

Some urbanites might ask , where do you live , Mosul ?
Nope , it's peaceful around here because most of my neighbors are similarly armed .

The police can take their time getting to our house . In fact , they can just follow the coroner and hearse .
We sleep soundly in our beds at night 'cause this area is full of rough men .

64 The dead dirtbag Anthony Nelson was 29 and had a mile-long history of drug and weapons convictions. A sterling example of the Chicago community that Obama wanted to organize.

65 I wonder if Mayor Daley will offer to go shoot the old man and his family himself, to demonstrate how well the city's gun laws work?

66 an armed intruder in his 30's what are the odds of surviving to your 30's in that line of work? I wonder if he was also their friendly neighborhood ACORN Census worker last month.

67 #59: ...forget it. Even I can't come up with a fitting punch line for that.


The band would just HAVE to be named "The Oh Noez"

68 16 - bad linky thing?

69 exdem13, you expose the problem of modern combat games. In a CQB the rounds are a lot shorter then days parry, thrust, riposte. Most modern weapons can be reloaded in 10sec. So go with a melee round 1sec, a standard action 10sec. If your unarmed, 7 minutes provides a lot of time for goblin mischief.

70

REVOLUTION!!!

Just to reiterate the freedoms we enjoy at AOSHQ.

Thanks, ace.

71 This guy isn't getting charged.  If he's charged the NRA will take it to the SCOTUS because this is a (near) perfect 2A case.  Daley's going to let this one die quietly.

72

Vic at May 27, 2010 09:31 AM, if history is any guide it's 100% sure he'll be charged and sent to prison. They've done it before. Some asshat will scream about the robber's civil rights being violated, etc.

This sort of hippie driven insanity is why I left Chicago and the Burbs even though I've got family there.

73 #69 Meh. I've been cutting back on low-hanging fruit. Need more irony in my diet.

74 Joel Brodsky is Drew Peterson's lawyer. I work in that area. Fuckin nightmare area.

75 80 Year Old Army Vet Shoots and Kills Armed Intruder

Some problems lend themselves to simple, elegant, permanent solutions. Now all of that nasty legal hubub is unnecessary.

_{Except for the charges they are going to levy on mister "I have a right to be safe in my home" Sheesh the nerve.}

76 Listen up you Neanderthals!!!  This here is my BOOM STICK!!!!!!!

77 trout attack over there

HotAir Registration has been closed like forever. How could they have been infiltrated?
And if they were how would you know it was Trout?

78 #75, #69 If Dino Danelli, Liza Minelli, Gino Vanelli and Milli Vanilli formed a band...

79 Neanderthals?

I think he called them
Screwheads
or Primitives.

Or was it Primitive Screwheads?

80 #80 ...I'd have to get the 'ell out of there.

81 Just to reiterate the freedoms we enjoy at AOSHQ.

Do we even have terms of use?

82 This man killed someone who was merely trying to make a living for his family.  80 years old or not, I hope he appears before me. Guilty.

83 "Alright you Primitive Screwheads, listen up! You see this? This... is my boomstick! The twelve-gauge double-barreled Remington. S-Mart's top of the line. You can find this in the sporting goods department. That's right, this sweet baby was made in Grand Rapids, Michigan. Retails for about a hundred and nine, ninety five. It's got a walnut stock, cobalt blue steel, and a hair trigger. That's right. Shop smart. Shop S-Mart. You got that?" Bruce Campbell is the man...

84 And yes, I'm pretty sure the first part of the line is channeling R. Lee Ermey in 'Full Metal Jacket'. Crib from the best...

85 Good for him, he didn't leave a witness.

86 For all you Morons, a little nollij:  pro bono means "for publicity."

Posted by: FUBAR at May 27, 2010 10:32 AM (1fanL)

 

It also isn't free.....filing costs, faxing, long distance, experts allw ill cost the Defendant. He cna use a PD and get it free.

87 "Mayor Meathead's solution to the crime in Chicago is to offer $75 gift cards to people who turn in guns. Most of the guns that were turned in were rusted out and probably hadn't worked in years but they still got the gift card. Meathead doesn't have any money to hire more cops or let them work more hours but he will piss money away on buying rusty guns"

We had those here in San Diego.  A friend a mine went to one of these events with a sign that said "See me first.  I pay $100.00".  He got some pretty good deals on some very nice rifles.

88 The intruder fired first and it happened inside.. here's the scoop from the Chicaguh Sun-Times

http://foxyurl.com/U2B

(and why the fuck is it so hard to insert a clickable link?)

89 This is an American Litmus test.

If you think for a pico second that the old guy might have done something wrong, then you do not support American values.

What say you, Obama?

90 11 Dollars to donuts (pesos to churros?) that the intruder was an illegal alien, er, undocumented immigrant.

Can't wait for that one. Posted by: J.J. Sefton

Was gonna say "bet the perp was a drug crazed zombie with darker skin tones" but, those informed fleshed out the facts.

91

U.S. Army Gant fought to keep us free. When he returned from war, we were entering a proseperous time in America. Now, it sounds like his neck of the woods looks more like the Korean villages he likely fought through. SOO glad that shooting a gun is like riding a bike....you never forget! HOOO-RAH Mr. Gant! Hoo-rah!

92 A while back I asked Ed or Allah to ban me from little hot green airballs.  Ain't been back to check on it.

¡Viva la Revolucíon!

93 same thing happened in MS this weekend. sort of

94 As of right now, both Daley and Weiss are unwilling to comment on whether the man will be charged. Daley did say "we can't have people running around like it's the widl west." This is a big slap in the face to Daley and his gun ban just days after he threatened to shoot a reporter to show the gun ban worked.

95 Oh and I was kicked off of Hot Air after the health care bill passed because they dug up a 2 month old post in which I said we need to win elections, protest, change hearts and minds to stop the violence that always follows tyranny. when i couldn't log on I emailed Hot Air thinking it was technical. Allah emailed me back saying how i was promoting violence and my brand of hate speech was intolerable. Never mind i was pointing out how to stop violence. I think Hot Air checked out of the sanity department a while ago and became way too thin skinned. They seem to be too fond of the banhammer.

96 One less Obama voter! Yay!

97 Come on...no make, model, caliber, ammo, entry and exit wound details? The press would be doing all the wannabe gangstas a favor if they described a grapefruit sized exit wound....

98

The 80 year old Korean War vet will not be charged for shooting to death the 29 year old burglar, just heard that on the radio. 

Heard a Mayor Daley soundbite that went along with the story, he's stammering mad about the whole thing and kept blabbing about how access to guns is the whole problem.  Um, if it wasn't for access to guns, right now that 80 year old man, his 83 year old wife, and their young grandson would be dead, because once guns are outlawed only outlaws have guns.

 

 

99 29
HA is a yeast-infected vagina.

Best to stay away.

Posted by: eman at May 27, 2010 09:57 AM (hVdJG)

You can't keep ME away from that! I'm on the case!