1 Chrisite is doing a live interview right now

2 Have I told you about this cougar I banged?

3 I do it because I love the children.

And sweet, sweet cash.

4 Well I think he's dreamy. 

5
fucking mindblogging

Only in Bizzarro Universe would President Know-Nothing have the same or better approval ratings as Chris Christie.

Anyone watch FRINGE?

6
I think our universe has somehow intertwined with an alternate universe.

7 If doing the right thing isn't popular,than fuck popularity.

8 nj.com


there's the link. sorry, can't link
right now he's explaining a fare increase for public transport. blaming Corzine,... standard stuff.

Earlier he said we need to change the (nj) supreme court "If they want to legislate, they should have run for [legislative office]"

9 Nat Geo has a show entitled "Gulf Oil Spill" on tonight at 10 PM EST. Anyone want to put Odds on if we hear the word "Bush" or not?

10 Now he's explaining why he stopped a policy of borrowing money to send rebate checks before each election.

11

Hey..don't nobody go askin' about my relationship with Nikki Haley, cuz I ain't talkin'..

..I mean it now

12 Want this man as your governor?

We're taking donations!

13
His approval rate would be much higher if the state of New Jersey could print it's own currency.

14 I'm in a foul mood and - at least for the moment - I am thinking that our form of government is kaput. There are several foundations necessary to support a Republic and they have all collapsed. One is a reasonably educated population and I think the Proggies have been spectacularly successful at demolishing that pillar. Another is a means of getting information by which to make informed decisions. Again, the Left has been spectacularly successful in dominating this area and make Joseph Goebbels and all the commies at Pravda and Izvestia and Tass look like amateurs. I think we are well and truly fucked and think that these trends will continue until some cataclysm happens that brings us back to our senses.

15 Seriously..I'm not going to mention my reltionship with her

16

I'd give my left nut for him to be my Governer.

17 Nikki Haley..it's off limits so don't go bringing it up

18
I'm not sure exactly when it happened. It mighta been Y2k or...

when Seinfeld ended in 1998.

19 When you rip the heart out of the community sow the piglets might grunt a bit.

20 Whatcha expect from the pussies in New Jersey? It's a miracle he got elected.

21

Livestreaming the Fat Man at NJ.com right now.

Bringing teh awesome.

22 I admitted to the fact that Nikki and me slept together..so to save my wife the embarrassment..I will never mention it again

23 Like an anti-Obama. People hate his policies but like him.

24 Is Christie married?  Because I'd be worried about Will effin' Folks making some sort of lame-assed claim.   Just because he's WILL FOLKS, BITCHES!

25

I'd give my left nut for him to be my Governer.

Dood, careful with that shit. I know from experience.

26 Nope..not gonna do it..no matter how hard you try..I am not going to repeat my claim that I slept with Nikki Haley

27 Shut up you little fucker

28 re NJEA rally of 35K in front of state house:

"the special interest 'me first' rally"

29 Live

30 "Im not the bully, these are the people who have been bullying ...."
re the teachers union

31 Bobby Jindal is beginning to show some major anger-nuts.  I likey.

32 No, seriously, don't be asking me about my hot sweaty affair Nikki Haley.  Because no matter how many times you ask, I won't tell you about how I totally banged her.  She was beggin' for more.

So don't ask.  Especially for these naked pictures I took of her which I happen to have ready in my "upload" folder.

33 That's a registered voter poll, and I bet it's a landliner, too.

I just scanned the article so I may have missed it, but I'd be really interested to see how the sample breaks out party- and ideology-wise.

34 Chris Christie?? Yeah...I tapped that

35 I wonder how many fellow moronettes are totally turned on by angry, smart, take charge strong conservative men? 

*bunk*

36 BOOOOOSH! Wait? Whut? Bush good?

37 Oh, and the NJEA?  I refuse to confirm nor deny that I totally tapped some hot teacher ass.

38 Someone turn to NBC and tell me that that laugh track is ironic. Now, please.

39 Well, won't the proof be in teh pudding?

Christie is doing what needs to be done. If NJ comes back from the brink while say CA slides into bankruptcy, I'm guessing his approval will skyrocket.

Of course I am still preplexed at the notion that union hacks get into teaching for the children, not the money, but are only concerned about the money. I certainly don't see angry public school hacks protesting failing government schools...

40 23 Like an anti-Obama. People hate his policies but like him.

Posted by: jukin at May 27, 2010 08:26 PM (vkkNZ)

Dammit you beat me to saying that.

41 We get the government we deserve, and get it good and hard. Christie makes the prospect of my semi-eminent move to the TriState area bearable

42 Christie live right now.  It's good.  He's headhunting again.

43 Oh, and the NJEA?  I refuse to confirm nor deny that I totally tapped some hot teacher ass.
Posted by: Sic Willie at May 27, 2010 08:30 PM (CbVPH

Too old. You don't have a much younger brother by any chance do you?

44 Like an anti-Obama. People hate his policies but like him.

Posted by: jukin at May 27, 2010 08:26 PM (vkkNZ)

It is a slow process, but I do see a distinct pattern to Obama's approval ratings...

45 Now he's joking how he is a unifier since both D and R oppose his proposal to end blue laws (no shopping on Sunday) to increase revenue

46 "My poll numbers are pretty darn good" for what he is doing

47 According to Christie, he's "unmoved" by those numbers above. 

48 Reagan's poll numbers were lousy early in his administration, but........

Cristie is making an omelette; the broken eggs are complaining. 

49
So Christie wants the Feds to figure out some kind of amnesty program for illegals similar to what Bush wanted to do? FAIL

50 "Here's the thing with a Met's fan..."

Holy mackerel!1! This man is a truth-teller run amok!

51

I think Christie's heart is in the right place, but if he's going to wage a war with the teacher's unions (and God knows, someone should) he needs to be more effective about doing it. And to be effective he needs to draw a bright line between the teachers, on the one hand, and the union bureaucrats and administrators on the other, and focus his fire on the latter group. Yes, I know the teachers support both and can be just as vicious in their attacks, but the public doesn't feel the same way about teachers. Period. He would be well advised to make some mealy mouthed "I'm sorry if you were offended" speech and dial it down a bit.

 

52 53
So Christie wants the Feds to figure out some kind of amnesty program for illegals similar to what Bush wanted to do? FAIL

It was a safe answer. NJ has a large latino population. Why stir shit where he does not need to?

53 He's like a belligerant, um, chunky, shorter version of Reagan.

54 I just noticed how goofy his name is. He should be a stock car driver.

55 public doesn't feel the same way about teachers

fuck the teachers and the union they road in on

56 I am an unfortunate product of NJ schools. I have seen the Spanish teacher that screwed students and the union protected him. I have seen the coaches reading the science book three pages a day and calling it a lesson plan. I have seen tons more and i say the teachers ARE the problem,
Maybe in your town, or your state the parents like the teachers, but anyone paying attention in NJ has other ideas

57 Part of the problem with polls is that people lie to pollsters about 'controversial' people like him. Since there's no benefit to telling the truth, and no harm to Christie in saying you dislike him, you can hedge your bets.

If there was a real election vote, he doubtless would do a lot better. Possibly a whole lot.

58 45 Christie live right now.  It's good.  He's headhunting again.

Posted by: rdbrewer at May 27, 2010 08:32 PM (0UqBq)

I really hope the teacher making more than she claimed she wanted being brought up.

59 Jane 36 - Me. Absolutely.

60 but the public doesn't feel the same way about teachers. Period. He would be well advised to make some mealy mouthed "I'm sorry if you were offended" speech and dial it down a bit.

 Posted by: Sean P at May 27, 2010 08:37 PM (M3QBc)

bullshit:  He's doing what desperately needs to be done. 

From where does your Great Insight into the Public Mind come?

61 And if you just look at homes in which the head of household is listed as "GOVERNOR CHRISTOPHER JAMES CHRISTIE", the approval rating suddenly leaps to 100 percent.  And when you get right down to it, that's the only number that makes any difference to me.  I'm gonna save this state whether you fucking pollsters like it or not.  Now why don't you print THAT in your paper tomorrow?

62 #55 You don't win a war by giving in before the first fire.

The teachers have made their bed with the administrators. Let them give us something tangible before currying favor with them.

63 It was a safe answer. NJ has a large latino population. Why stir shit where he does not need to?
So if he was asked if he would aggressively fight organized crime, he should give a safe answer recommending a commission to study the problem because N.J. has a large Italian population?

64 Thanks for the link, rdbrewer. Christie is great, and no teleprompter in sight!

65 The only solution for NJ is to have the courts and legislature get into a car with Paulie and let him shoot it in the head on the way.

66 Hey, I can be all angry ladies!

67 Christie's been to 125 Springsteen concerts.

68 So if he was asked if he would aggressively fight organized crime, he should give a safe answer recommending a commission to study the problem because N.J. has a large Italian population?

There is nothing he can do about illegal immigration in NJ. He has to pick his fights and he has picked well.

69 67 #55 You don't win a war by giving in before the first fire.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 27, 2010 08:44 PM (z1N6a)

yes, and Cristie is winning.  Damn the polls  !!  Full speed ahead  !!

70 Ok, so he takes a shit on oil. Still this is quite good for a governor.

71 i f-ing hate that steve yabadaba interviewer. always have.

72 Interesting op-ed on the NJ teachers union shooting itself in the proverbial foot from the VERY liberal Newark Star-Ledger...link

73

And the hell of it is, Christie isn't dodging questions.  He's tackling them head on, with blunt but honest candor. 

Contrast that with the fact that Gibbsy's Nathan Thurm-looking ass.  He doesn't even bother dissembling any more.  Now just says fuck you, I'm not answering any of your questions. 

Team Obama has evolved to shitty movie demigod status, General Zod style - DO NOT TALK BACK TO YOUR GOD! (yeah.  That's from Superman II - what the fuck are you going to do about it?)

Or for you young'uns who don't go back that far:

Gibbs:  "Are you saying that I can deflect questions?"

Morpheus:  "No, Robert.  I'm saying that when you're ready... you won't have to."

74 75 Ok, so he takes a shit on oil. Still this is quite good for a governor.

Everyone has their flaws.

75 My brother is a state employee,
He explained his pension, all the standard stuff, 20 and out, pad the last year by working OT, etc.

But he also has this deal where if he gets a divorce, then he gets a pension, and his wife gets something like 80% in addition..

This is his word, and he's an accountant so he should know...

76 Not all teachers are poor-teaching lefties. There are more righties out there than you may think. 

77 OUCH.
he supports the NJ gun laws
to BUY a gun
FBI fingerprint check
state fingerprint check
Mental health check
Two letters of recommendation from upstanding citizens
etc. etc. three money orders, six week wait, approval from local Police Chief,....

Makes CA look like Texas

78 Christie has brass ones. Thats for sure. He's right too. The Dems in NJ are going after him harder than the teachers. They are blocking all types of appointments if he will not play ball. The union for state workers just sent out a notice for increased deductions for fighting Christie. It is an Agency sho deal where everyone has to pay dues regardless of union affiliation. Then the union bargains with Corzine and the union boss was his girlfriend. Who won? Now they are pissed Christie is cleaning up the mess. I wish he would fire everyone who is bitching and start with people who are willing to work with him. Theres not much left after Mcgreevey(Will Folks cousin) and Corzine!

79 Everyone has their flaws.
Posted by: Kratos

My point, if ineptly communicated.

And the hell of it is, Christie isn't dodging questions.  He's tackling them head on, with blunt but honest candor. Posted by: Empire of Jeff

It is a piece of history, as pessimistically as I can state it. This is frickin' awesome.

80 Christie is doing pretty good in this interview. His stance on gun laws sucks though.
Not sharing his love for bruce springstein either.

81 The women of The Real Housewives of NJ are worried.  The house-husbands are all related and in the "construction" business. 

82 #81 So? There were lots of nice folks in Iraq under Sadaam and we bombed them regardless.

If we win, we can set the righty teachers free of the crap world they live in now.

83 meh, a gun grabber. Outside of that he was good in the interview but that is a big fucking deal.

84 Makes CA look like Texas
Posted by: nine coconuts

Let's see either Perry or Schwartzenegger do this a live TV show. Then we'll get back to you.

85 I think his approval numbers will go up ... when NJ gets their heads out of their liberal asses that is.

In other news ... in another very blue state ... Massachusetts passes tough law on illegal immigration.  That's gonna take some heat off of my state.

86 I should correct that, I don't know what New Jersey's laws are so I don't know if he's a grabber or not.

87 My take --
I understand the oil issue since in NJ the beaches are a big deal

right on gay marriage

a disaster on guns, but maybe he just did not articulate his position well. He did say that he supports the rights of people own guns, but the problem is that in NJ it is not a right, but a privileged you have to grovel for, and forget about concealed carry.

I also understand his position on immigration, since there is nothing he can do about it in NJ and why pick a fight.

And on the big issues (taxes, teachers, budget,...) he is better than i ever could have imagined in NJ.

88 82 OUCH.
he supports the NJ gun laws
to BUY a gun
FBI fingerprint check
state fingerprint check
Mental health check
Two letters of recommendation from upstanding citizens
etc. etc. three money orders, six week wait, approval from local Police Chief,....

Makes CA look like Texas
Posted by: nine coconuts

89 Oops ... forgot the linky.

90 55 really? Really?? I'm sure the Gov. Appreviates your concer.

91

He's got a f*ck of a lot better approval ratings than Bush had (post 2004), and GW spent the majority of his time being "compassionate" and noncombative in the face of constant attacks.

Fighting back sure as hell beats taking it up the rear. 

92 82 OUCH.
he supports the NJ gun laws
to BUY a gun
FBI fingerprint check
state fingerprint check
Mental health check
Two letters of recommendation from upstanding citizens
etc. etc. three money orders, six week wait, approval from local Police Chief,....

Makes CA look like Texas
Posted by: nine coconuts

Screw that crap. He lost my support.

93
Good interview, he can think on his feet. I'd like to see Christie up against Wolf Blitzkrieg and Barry Obama in a Celebrity Jeopardy game.

94 Believe it or not, jersey gun laws are not quite as bad as they "can" be. We don't have a formal registration of rifles. You DO have to apply for a license to buy one, but its a one time thing, and its good forever, for as many as you want to buy, and you don't have to renew it every 3 years like other states. Handguns on the other hand are a little tougher, its one permit per handgun that you have to apply for, and there was always a few week wait, but you can apply for a few at a time. Where the laws get real stupid is BB guns are under the same permits, BB rifles are under the rifle permit, and BB pistols are under the same frigging handgun permit. This is totally retarded, after going through all the shit for a handgun permit you're gonna go buy a fucking BB gun? I think not.

95 Screw that crap. He lost my support.

Posted by: sandbagger at May 27, 2010 09:02 PM (550T/)

Yeah that's a deal breaker for me too. It's probably fine in Jersey though and I have no plans on moving there.

96 91 I should correct that, I don't know what New Jersey's laws are so I don't know if he's a grabber or not.

I don't know for a fact, but I'm sure they are the worst in the nation.
He did not say he wanted to grab, but that he supported current laws. That is a problem. Then again, he's a prosecutor and those guys all hate guns. They only see guns when a criminal has committed a crime and have this really strong sense that they are doing a great job protecting the public from the bad guys. It is hard for them to understand that people need guns for protection since the CJ system is not perfect.

I think a lot of Law Oficers would feel the same way (and some do) except that they are more likely to be military and private gun owners before going that route. The prosecutors went to college and have a different life experience.

97

I'd give my left nut for him to be my Governer.

I'd give Bosk's right one for him to be my governor.

Let's worry about the gun laws LATER, after he cleans up everything else.

98 Regardless of his answers to the questions, I was just pleased by his candor.  There were a couple question where I thought even the hard charging Christie would revert to politician mode and try to weasel his way out, but he didn't.

99 100 Screw that crap. He lost my support.

Posted by: sandbagger at May 27, 2010 09:02 PM (550T/)

Yeah that's a deal breaker for me too. It's probably fine in Jersey though and I have no plans on moving there.

Posted by: robtr


I was hoping he'd make a run for the White House. Now there's no way.

100 #96  Fighting back sure as hell beats taking it up the rear.

Fuck yeah.

Maybe if the Governator had shown a little more balls after his first ballot initatives failed, maybe Cali wouldn't be as boned as it is today.

101 I'll tell you what, I'd take Chris Christie for a governor, warts and all.

The guy's doing what he ran on doing: blocking tax hikes; breaking the backs of the public unions; and just generally trying to rescue the state financially.  In the process he's telling the media and the legislature, right in front of everyone, what they can go do with themselves.  And he's doing all this in a deep blue state which affords him very little political margin to do, well, exactly what he's doing.

Since federal and state financial crises are going to be pretty much the defining issue of these times, Chris Christie is exactly the man New Jersey (and frankly a whole lot of other states) needs the most right now.  And it's frankly a miracle that he's there at all.  I'll leave it to Jerseyans to decide whether his stances on other issues make him a net liability, but if I were living there I'd be damned thrilled to have him.

102 I was hoping he'd make a run for the White House. Now there's no way.

Posted by: sandbagger at May 27, 2010 09:06 PM (550T/)

Nah, he'd be killed in the primary, hell a democrat would be killed in the primary with those draconian laws. Most of America just isn't with him on that.

103

Just a guess, but I would think Christie would want to keep the gun laws harsh to keep the criminals in New York over on their side of the line.  Yeah yeah, I know those laws primarily hurt the law abiders, but if all it took to get a legal gun easy was a drive across a bridge then lots of crooks would make the trip.

104

There's some good news, too. Sure, they say they don't like Christie -- too mean! Waah!

 

Mean is the new black. 

Mean Chris Christie 2012!!11!!

105 Remember in these NE lib states it is in the air we breathe "guns = bad".Giuliani was terrible on 2nd Amendment when he was Mayor,he changed his tune for the national audience.Christie will do the same.

106 Only 60% want to hold the line on spending?  That means 40% of New Jersey is retarded.

107 I was hoping he'd make a run for the White House. Now there's no way.

I'd vote for him.  When our cities are smoking craters and the dollar's worth less than a square of 2-ply Charmin, the last thing on my mind is going to be how Christie felt about NJ gun laws.

108 he changed his tune for the national audience.Christie will do the same.

Posted by: steevy at May 27, 2010 09:15 PM (HP5TH)

Actually what I like about Chistie is he doesn't seem like the guy that's going to change his tune for a different audience. That soundbite in the interview showing NJ laws would make a devistating ad nationally.

by the way Guliani lost too.

109 Just a guess, but I would think Christie would want to keep the gun laws harsh to keep the criminals in New York over on their side of the line.  Yeah yeah, I know those laws primarily hurt the law abiders, but if all it took to get a legal gun easy was a drive across a bridge then lots of crooks would make the trip.

I'm pretty sure it's easier to buy a gun in NY, (or PA, Conn,..) so this doesn't figure.

BTW,
On weekends i help out a family business in the barrio and i know tons of NYers that moved to NJ since the benefits (housing, food stamps, etc) are a lot more generous. also, supposedly it is easier to get disability since the state gives you a case worker to help you through the process. I know dozens of people with bad backs in that part of town. a fucking epidemic.

110

Hotair has the Director's Cut of that exchange with that scrunt teacher.  I'm just putting some more f'n knowledge out there on it.  Here's the link:

http://tinyurl.com/37f9amm

111 Christi/Brewer 2012 Fiscal conservative/ illegal immigration hawk

112 113 Oh,I was no fan of Rudy as mayor.I knew he was way,way,better than the alternative but he was way to liberal on lots of things for me.He also closed every titty bar that was even remotely in a residential area,or had a school with blocks,or an arcade,or anyplace where kids might be.He closed my favorite titty bar and he was a fucking nanny stater!!

113 117 He didn't "close" them.The girls had to stay dressed and they died on their own.Same deal.One place tried to get by and the padlocked it.

114 """Just a guess, but I would think Christie would want to keep the gun laws harsh to keep the criminals in New York over on their side of the line.  Yeah yeah, I know those laws primarily hurt the law abiders, but if all it took to get a legal gun easy was a drive across a bridge then lots of crooks would make the trip""

I think he may be also worried about the few major cities in jersey, and they are doozies. Fucking Newark  makes Anbar province in Iraq look like Beverly hills.

115

I'm pretty sure it's easier to buy a gun in NY, (or PA, Conn,..) so this doesn't figure.

Hello, that's what I meant, so it DOES figure: he wants them harder in NJ than NY so they don't go to NJ to buy their guns.

116 Batchelor discussing Will Folks.....

117

That means 40% of New Jersey is retarded.

Have you been there? I think that's a little low.

118 116 Christi/Brewer 2012
Fiscal conservative/ illegal immigration hawk

Nice combo, but I like the Christie/Bolton match-up better.  Our foreign policy has been so trashed by Obama's bowing, general incompetence, and seething hatred for the U.S. that we need at least John Bolton's Epic Mustache to start fixing our reputation overseas.

And I think he'd be a good proponent for protecting the borders too.

119 Camden is beautiful this time of year.

120 NY doesn't make it easy to get a gun.Not sure it is easier at all in fact.Bloombag is a gun hater of the first order.He has TOY guns banned for Christ's sake!

121 I think he may be also worried about the few major cities in jersey, and they are doozies. Fucking Newark  makes Anbar province in Iraq look like Beverly hills.

Posted by: Berserker at May 27, 2010 09:22 PM (gWHrG

Therin lies the problem, if you have out of control cities it seems you would want to make it easier for law abiding citizens to protect themselves.

122 118 117 He didn't "close" them.The girls had to stay dressed and they died on their own.Same deal.One place tried to get by and the padlocked it.

and he fucking ruined the deuce. (42nd street for you flyover morons)
I never went to the porn shows, but on weekdays they played stuff like Bruce Lee, Russ Meyer, ... all the cool movies.
Well I guess now you can watch that stuff anywhere but still Iiked it better before they gave it over to the tourists.

123 So, this tingling in my leg, should I be worried?

124 125 NY doesn't make it easy to get a gun.Not sure it is easier at all in fact.Bloombag is a gun hater of the first order.He has TOY guns banned for Christ's sake!

No, I meant NY state. NYC is definitely worse that NJ. sorry

125

I think he may be also worried about the few major cities in jersey, and they are doozies. Fucking Newark  makes Anbar province in Iraq look like Beverly hills.

No argument there.

126

And I think he'd be a good proponent for protecting the borders too.

 

mega-dittos!

127 123 the Death Stach will make an excellent sec. of state. Every despot and UN hack would be on notice. Bolton always punches up baby!

128

Have you been there? I think that's a little low

 

Camden and Northern NJ, for sure.

129 How many of you ladies are already carrying Christie's babies?  I need to know how many of you I'm going to be competing with for child support.

130 Jersey Cuty is as bad as Newark.NY is relatively tame nowadays.Thanks mostly to what Rudy put in place(he did alot of good too).

131

I like Switzerlands gun laws. Everyone is required to join the Militia and everyone is given an automtic rifle and ammo that they are required to keep in there home.

Murder rate is the lowest of any developed country.

132 Wow.  Ace, we just need two threads dedicated to Joisey and SC.  Seriously.  It's like a soap, or something.  Which state has the most references to dick/pussy.

133 In my state you pick out a gun , rifle , pistol , shotgun , give the man some money , he makes one phone call (instant background check ) .
Take your new gun home .
Any national politician that runs to the left of that scenario will not get many votes .

134 We already knew that the corollary was true: many people are ok with getting bored, so long as you blow a little sweet wind up there first.

We are the change that we've been waiting for!

135   Which state has the most references to dick/pussy.

California?

136

I live in Jersey.  Thugs in NJ and NY drive to Virgina and back to get guns.   Remember the NJ State Troopers several years back who got in a shoot out on the turnpike with said gun runners and got in trouble for "racial profiling"?  Frankly, I agree with War Between the Undead States, I don't really care about his stance on gun control right now because the house is on fire, metaphorically speaking.  Its pretty difficult to find anyone who could get a perfect score on a conservative litmus test and still be elected to dog catcher in New Jersey.  With regard to the poll, I live in a very blue area of Jersey, and while no one will admit to liking Christie, everyone is revolted by the behavior of the NJEA, and now, by some of the teachers.  The more poeple look into how much money is spent, and how its spent, the madder they get.

137 Christie's having to play the role of the firm parent with an electorate that includes a sizable number of spoilt children.

138

That means 40% of New Jersey is retarded.

Have you been there? I think that's a little low.

There was a poll about a year ago, and something like 60% would like to leave the state.

the 40% only means that 40% work for the state or are on the dole.

But I think it is one of the stupidest populations I have ever come across, but think about it -- the smart people leave and the stupid come here to go on the dole.

139 The newly built middle school in Garfield, NJ looks like the corporate offices of a fortune 500 co. Just sayin.

140 O/T:  "Death Threat Made Against Henry McMaster"

141 Get it done. Then the Democrats will come back in and fuck it up for a while.

142 Gun laws in NJ are all about shit holes like Camden, Paterson, and Trenton. NYC is 3 years mandatory for handgun possesion (ask Plaxico Buress).

143 Jersey Cuty is as bad as Newark.NY is relatively tame nowadays.Thanks mostly to what Rudy put in place(he did alot of good too).

Totally. No offense to any jersey people in the cities of jersey, but all the big cities in jersey for the most part are frigging shit holes, and even some of the smaller cities too. Some of the cities do have nicer parts, but also some really fucking ugly parts.

 Its a very strange state really. It has tons of beautiful suburbs, farm lands, some smaller mountainous ares, and nice shore areas, and the state is speckled with shithole cities, and they are what keeps jersey blue. Its fairly red outside the cities. Those cities though, man, like fucking Beirut.

144 If you want to know about NJ, google "Mt Laurel Housing", and "Abbott District"

both are court decisions, one says that towns can not discriminate against poor people through zoning laws (iow, developers are paid by nice Republican towns to build high density housing or they are sued) and the other says that towns can not discriminate against stupid people or something... whatever the logic, the result is that everyone is taxed to the gills, (school tax) and that is sent to these abbott districts where the stupid people live. I think i read that Asbury park spends 32K per student, most of it coming from other cities.

The only solution to NJ is to undo these ruling.
lotsa luck with that one.

145

O/T -- From the Another One Bites the Dust File. Thaddeus McCotter is one of nine repubs who have signed on for the union pension bailout fund.  (via Gateway) 

Shame on you 9 Republicans:

Jo Ann Emerson (MO)Â…married to a big union lawyer
Patrick Tiberi (OH)
Steven LaTourette (OH)Â…thin skinned.
Ginny Brown-Waite (FL)
John Linder (GA)
Thaddeus McCotter (MI)
Peter Roskam (IL)
Tim Murphy (PA)
Aaron Schock (IL)Â…a member of the “Republican Study Committee” club in the House, and supposed to be a staunch conservative????? Aaron is in one of the most entrenched union districts of all, in IllinoisÂ…Caterpiller union workers are one of his biggest contributors. Hmmm. 

146 Who gives a fuck what his stupid poll numbers are? He's getting it done, and he's the governor until his term is over.

Fuck the whiny libs. It's like a little kid kicking and screaming when his mom is trying to force feed him his medicine. They'll thank him later.

I say: God bless him.

147

Those cities though, man, like fucking Beirut.

O the irony that people are hating on Christie regarding the gun rights of those in the BLUE areas.

148 Damn , not McCotter , too .
I liked that guy .

149
You know the old saying: "Everyone loves a charade." Well, it seems that the Census Bureau may be playing games. One of the millions of workers hired by Census 2010 to parade around the country counting Americans blew the whistle on some statistical tricks.

The worker, Naomi Cohn, said that she was hired and fired a number of times by Census. Each time she was hired back, it seems, Census was able to report the creation of a new job to the Labor Department.

Each month Census gives Labor a figure on the number of workers it has hired. That figure goes into the closely followed monthly employment report Labor provides. For the past two months the hiring by Census has made up a good portion of the new jobs.

Census fraud from a POTUS fraud.

Labor doesnÂ’t check the Census hiring figure or whether the jobs are actually new or recycled. It considers a new job to have been created if someone is hired to work at least one hour a month.

150 When Obama's approval numbers fell this far this quickly, you called it a "free fall."  But with Christie, "it's really actually pretty good."  Keep up the good work with your hypocrisy and double standards, Ace.  This kind of crap is why you aren't taken seriously.

151 I could give a shit what his poll numbers are five months into his reign of awesomeness. As a constituent the guy is doing what has to be done;  these shit-sucking, caterwauling, mewling pustules from the unions can piss and moan all day and it's not going to make a damn bit of difference. What we have her is a man, a real man who's not going to quiver and quake over some fucking popularity poll from the antique media.

Even if by chance some dipshit Democrat can show up in 2013 and unseat him--highly unlikely considering how weak they are--he'll leave us in much better shape than when he assumed office.

Christie's greatest gift even if he dropped dead tomorrow would be fortifying Republicans with a backbone. They don't have to take this crap from the media and unions and go slink off in the corner or worry about a fucking invitation to a cocktail party. You got elected for a reason. Do your job and worry about re-election when that time rolls around. I doubt Christie is wasting a second of his time worrying about his next election. Which is how it should be.

Little did I realize voting for him last November would matter so much. Outside of voting to Ronald Reagan the first time I was eligible to vote in 1984, it's the proudest vote I've cast.

152 Christie is like the tough badass new coach that everyone hates and bitches about until he starts winning every game - then he is a hero.

153 Re:   67 #55 You don't win a war by giving in before the first fire.
I get that, but you need to realize that the public does NOT see public school teachers the same way they see other public sector unions and until that changes he is going to lose any PR fight he picks with the teachers unions.   Look, I'm all for Christie playing hardball with the teachers unions, and force them to make the kind of concessions we need. All I'm saying is he needs to turn his censor button on his brain back on when he's being recorded for posterity. PUBLICLY Christie must constantly praise teachers and how wonderful they are and how children are the future, teach them well and let them lead the way,et al. PRIVATELY he can grind into them and be as pissy as he wants. But the public can't see that side.   That's all I'm saying.

154

155 Sally Ann Cavanaugh:

"When Obama's approval numbers fell this far this quickly"

Er, no. Christie's numbers have fallen, but nowhere near as far as Obama's have.  Sorry.  There isn't even a hint of a double standard here.  Now if Christie falls about 3x further, if we're still calling that "good", then you might have a legit complaint.  Until then, you're the one who's not to be taken seriously.

155 Sally is batty and Sean P. should stop wringing his hands about the noble teachers being besmirched.  A couple more displays from tone deaf NJ teachers like the ones we've just seen and he'll be able to them he is the only one standing between them and the pitchforks.

156 Sean P, do you live in New Jersey?  Cause this universal love of teachers, and the presumption that they are somehow downtrodden, is not what I am hearing from my neighbors.  Teachers here are raking in the bucks, anywhere from 60 to 86 to 100 k, to 170 k if you are a superintendant.  People here are figuring out that the public sector employees, like teachers, are making out better than they are.  The rest of us have taken a pay cut, they wont agree to a one year freeze.  The rest of us have to contribute alot more than 1.5 % towards health benefits, and they wont even agree to that.  What do you suggest we give them?  At some point, enough is enough.

157 The public has had enough of their taxes being raised through the roof all to pay for plush salaries for teachers who oftentimes don't do dick...go Christie!

158

"Sean P, do you live in New Jersey?  Cause this universal love of teachers, and the presumption that they are somehow downtrodden, is not what I am hearing from my neighbors.  Teachers here are raking in the bucks, anywhere from 60 to 86 to 100 k, to 170 k if you are a superintendant.  People here are figuring out that the public sector employees, like teachers, are making out better than they are.  "

No I don't live in New Jersey. I live in California, where teacher salaries are HIGHER. And I also remember what happened when Arnold tangled with the teachers unions in 2005. He pushed a number of union reforms in the ballot box in a special election and was repudiated. His response was to castrate himself -- he went from a fairly effective fiscal conservative to a big spending sub-RINO statist in a matter of hours. Now California is in a bigger mess than ever before, and all because voters sided with unions when they shouldn't and our Governor turned into a raging pussy over a little pushback.

So for the last time, I am not fretting about poor noble teachers. I'm fretting that the apathetic middle still buys into the "poor noble teacher" stereotype and the unions will exploit that stereotype for all its worth.

159

As for the gun laws -- things are different in NYC and Jersey; you get a lot of dubious people going to Jersey and buying guns for rather nefarious reasons.  I'm not pro gun control, but I can understand NYC and Jersey taking a bit tougher stance on the issue of registration than some other places.

Hey, at least they aren't completely banned, like Chicago...so if you guys want to toss him to the curb because of tough gun registration...well, we'll take him here.  We have a budget to wrangle.

What was that a while back about no politician is going to be perfect?

160 Sean,  I think the circumstances are different.  Christie isn't going to put this to a referendum,  so there will be no opportunity for the unions to have him repudiated until he stands for reelection.

Also, Arnold,  despite his tough-guy personna, really wasn't very tough when standing up to the unions.   He didn't speak bluntly like Christie does.  And Christie has really been good about getting out to town hall meetings,  getting his stuff on YouTube, etc.

Also,  Christie has California's bad example to point to, and we are now in a full-scale deep recession with lots of people out of work.  I bet if Arnold held that referendum today the results would be different.

Being nice doesn't work with the left.  He could talk sweetly to everyone and ask nicely, and they would still treat him like the devil incarnate.  Example:  Both Bush presidents.

161

@14: " I think we are well and truly fucked and think that these trends will continue until some cataclysm happens that brings us back to our senses."

I agree with your earlier points, but not your last.  The sad fact is, an awful lot of people like socialism/communism/fascism.  They like statist policies and systems.  Nothing will ever change that.  Whether it works or not, people will *always* buy into it.

162

Sean P rather than accept the premise that teachers are universally overworked and underpaid, and thereby allow the uninformed middle to hold on to this myth, why not expose it as Christie is doing.  As I understand it, Arnold was also hamstrung by a legislative system in CA that makes for a fairly weak executive.  Christie isnt running for anything, he is trying to govern New Jersey.  Why not tell the people the truth? 

163

Snort, I used to buy into the "overworked, underpaid poor teacher" spiel -- before I actually started teaching.  It's not an easy job, but it isn't that awful either.

And now, now that I watch the local teachers driving around in brand spanking new vehicles, sending their kids to fancy expensive camps, doing fancy remodels on their homes or buying newer bigger ones (paying for unheard of luxuries even 10 years ago on a teacher's salary back then) -- while I'm scraping to pay my mortgage, crossing my fingers that my 12 yo. car keeps running, and see my taxes going up, up, up while at the same time the schools are having more and more problems and they scream for more and more money...suddenly I don't feel the warm, fuzzy love for the poor, poor teachers anymore.

Fuck them and the union they flew in on -- this keeps up they will need protection from the pitchforks, and some of them *used to be* my good friends (not anymore, they only hang out with other teachers, or school or county board members now...movin' on up and all that).

164 @136, I dunno, there are people walking the streets in SF right now that I don't trust with can openers...

165 Aha, Governor Christie is failing. If were to follow my policies his numbers would be in the 80's.

166 A case of them choosing to hate the playah rather than the game. I always think of it in terms of children. They claim they hate you when you discipline them, but ultimately they really are grateful.

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