1 Chris KRINGLE Christie!

2 Government does something reasonable.  Shocking!

I'm waiting for the lefty heads to explode.

3 But, if I understand correctly, (maybe I don't) he is still a convicted felon, so he can never own a gun.  Nice to be out of jail, but the guy hasn't really gotten justice if he hasn't been pardoned...

4 Problem with a commuted sentence vs. a pardon is that he is most likely barred from possessing guns in the future.  Still a problem.

5 We'll have to see how this plays out.

6 I'm a slow typist, see @3.

7 I'd like to have seen him go off on how this judge and this system denied him his 2nd amendment rights and pardon him. 

Where was the ACLU?   Some rights are the right, 'rights'...

grrrr

8 hey look, his family is happy, he is happy, his lawyers are happy. let's just be happy! god you guys are eeyores! hopefully a new trial or whatever and he can lose the felony rap

9

(If we can get over his squishiness on amnesty and the Ground Zero mosque, which I don't know if we can. I don't know if I can, I should say. Hey, I may be a RINO, but even RINOs have their own do-not-cross lines.)

That does him as far as I'm concerned. Those aren't small issues I have with him, they are 747 issues, on par with gun control.

10 Maybe it was sidebarred.

Yup. It doesn't count as a double post if the original was in the sidebar, so you still have some work to do today.

Good on Chris Christie.

*prays that Aitken never commits a gun crime*

11 Yeah, but where does he go to get his rectum back?

12 (If we can get over his squishiness on amnesty and the Ground Zero mosque, which I don't know if we can. I don't know if I can, I should say. Hey, I may be a RINO, but even RINOs have their own do-not-cross lines.) That bothers me also, but if I had to guess, I'd say i doubt Christie had given either issue all that much consideration. He had bigger problems to deal with in NJ. I am not defending his positions on these, just trying to figure out where and why he was coming from?

13 Yeah, but where does he go to get his rectum back? Posted by: Dr Spank at December 21, 2010 11:54 AM (1fB+3) Home depot

14 Wasn't a pardon, can't give a good review on this.  Sorry.

The Big Man can negotiate with the 'service' unions, though.  There should be a place for him in a good, conservative/restorationist administration.  Just not at the top.

15

Where was the ACLU?   Some rights are the right, 'rights'...

The ACLU does not involve itself with the 2nd Amendment. Not their idea of a right, I guess.

16 hopefully a new trial or whatever and he can lose the felony rap

How's that supposed to work?

17

Christie did the right thing here but I am still not sold on his acceptance of the second amendment.

New Jersey has some of the most draconian gun laws in the country. In an interview before the election Christie stated he was fine with NJ gun laws and thought they were appropriate. I don't know if he said it to help him get elected or if he believes it. Either way it's a deal killer for me unless he wants to change his mind.

18 I was listening to a radio interview of his lawyer.  Basically, all they were looking for at the time was the commuting of the sentence, and not the pardon.  If they went for the pardon, they would have to move their case up the judicial food-chain first before Christie would be able to act on it (assuming he would).  And Lord knows how long that would take.

With the sentence commuted, they're free to continue to appeal to get his name cleared and he doesn't have to worry that if he loses, going back to jail.

19 @5
I agree with Vic.  Let's see how it plays out.

There is some speculation out there that Aitken's side asked for it to be commuted (rather than for a pardon) because they intend to challenge the conviction and go for an overturn.  That makes some sense to me, especially given that the judge was shit-canned by Christie (over another bad ruling). 

So I don't think that it's fair to say Christie did something wrong - or didn't do enough - because there was no pardon. 

Can't we just give the fat man a pat on the back for what he did do? 

20 @19 I was listening to a radio interview of his lawyer.  Basically, all they were looking for at the time was the commuting of the sentence, and not the pardon.

Thank you!

I wish I could find it in print somewhere. 

21 Okay morons, need some gun advice.  I was in Vegas this weekend and checked out the Taurus Millenium series of handguns.  It was recommended to my by former LAPD officer.  Liked the feel of the gun in my hand (I have small hands) and I can handle it.  Your thoughts?

22 Of course, Christie has been known to eat watermelon - and he's a dirty Papist - so he's disqualified as a potential POTUS candidate. 

23

This takes my love of Chris Christie from regular love to obsessive love. Love love love him!!!! I want him to be governor of every state, and President forever! Is that so wrong?

24 " They stopped him, and found guns in his trunk, which they called illegal -- but they weren't necessarily illegal, as it's legal to transport guns when moving from one home to another, as he seems to have been doing. (Or, at least -- as he argues he was doing, and that seems plausible.)" It's an affirmative defense. If there are facts to support it, the judge will issue an instruction to the jury. The judge didn't here because the defense presented no facts. He could have testified or presented wits or documents to support his claim that he was moving. He did not. You can object to the laws or that the sentence was too draconian but let's not pretend that the guy was not breaking the law.

25 @19

That is what I heard as well. If they win the appeal, and the conviction reversed, then he is clear, and may be able to lawfully own firearms again.

26 It was recommended to my by former LAPD officer.  Liked the feel of the gun in my hand (I have small hands) and I can handle it.  Your thoughts?

Posted by: mpfs, recovered from weekend in Vegas at December 21, 2010 12:02 PM (iYbLN)

A friend of mine has the small taurus .45 and likes it alot for concealed carry.

27 @21

This particular judge has been mentioned in AoSHQ before.  He was the asshat who pretty much let an guy who had sex with animals off scot-free because "there was no proof that the animals did not enjoy the sexual activity in question."

So in this judge's eyes, guy having sex with cows = innocent downtrodden citizen.  Guy legally transporting legally purchased firearms between residences after clearing it with both Homeland Security and NJ State Police = Hardened gangsta criminal.

Reading the details of the case if enlightening.  The judge really twisted things to pretty much ensure a conviction.  Apparently the jurors themselves were uncomfortable convicting him but had no choice after the show trial the judge put on.

28 @22

Here's a link to the interview on youtube.

29
does this Aitken guy have electability?

because we need people with electability

30 It's an affirmative defense. If there are facts to support it, the judge will issue an instruction to the jury. The judge didn't here because the defense presented no facts. He could have testified or presented wits or documents to support his claim that he was moving. He did not. You can object to the laws or that the sentence was too draconian but let's not pretend that the guy was not breaking the law.

Posted by: Moi at December 21, 2010 12:04 PM (Ez4Ql)

You're wrong about that. The defense did try to enter into the record that he was moving and the judge denied letting them do that. The judge also denied the defense attempt to enter into the record the federal law that says one state cannot override another states laws regarding the size of the magazines, ammunition and method of transport.

Reason has a complete history of this case. The judge was a dick.

31
Hey, I may be a RINO, but even RINOs have their own do-not-cross lines.

Wouldn't that be more of an advisory or cautionary line than a hard, mandatory one? I mean, you wouldn't want to be making judgement calls like that, would you?

32 Can't we just give the fat man a pat on the back for what he did do? 

Posted by: Y-not at December 21, 2010 12:01 PM (IDL9N)

Of course not! He didn't do it for the correct reasons! We here at Ace of Spades are pure as the driven snow.

33

Posted by: mpfs, recovered from weekend in Vegas at December 21, 2010 12:02 PM (iYbLN)

I always recommend revolvers for novices. Always. Much safer and simpler to handle safely. Reliable too. Unlikely to jam due to not so hot maintenance, and will never get magazine spring fatigue.

34 The judge involved is now apparently no longer a judge, according to Radley Balko's website (I can't tinyurl). I found the link at overlawyered.com

35 Posted by: Moi at December 21, 2010 12:04 PM (Ez4Ql)


What's your source?  It contradicts everything I've read about the case.

36 why technology sucks:

BMW burns its logo onto viewers' eyelids

37 37 The judge involved is now apparently no longer a judge, according to Radley Balko's website (I can't tinyurl).


Yes, because the Fat Man - whom some here cannot give any props to no matter what the circumstances - fired him. 

38
"We got too many Jim DeMints and Tom Coburn. It's the southerners. They get on TV and go 'errrr, errrrr.' People hear them and say, 'These people, they're southerners. The party's being taken over by southerners"
-- George Cocksucking Voinovich
July, 2009

We have got to stop being the stupid cocksucker party if we want to win in 2012. Do not let the New York fucking Slimes pick our candidates.

39
He sounds like Boss Hogg. He's too fat. He's a gun-grabber. She can't shoot animals the right way. She's a quitter. He's a flip-flopper.

All this self-inflicted fragging is gonna get us another 4 years of Obama.

40

You know who this helps? Clay Aiken.

41 We have got to stop being the stupid cocksucker party if we want to win in 2012. Do not let the New York fucking Slimes pick our candidates.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 21, 2010 12:15 PM (uFokq)

Shaddup, peasant!

42 All this self-inflicted fragging is gonna get us another 4 years of Obama. Posted by: Soothsayer at December 21, 2010 12:17 PM (uFokq) This is what the primaries are for: To sort out the wheat from the goats and separate the chaff from the sheep. Or whatever. And in theory it doesn't start for another year, but we know better than that.

43 Okay morons, need some gun advice.  I was in Vegas this weekend and checked out the Taurus Millenium series of handguns.  It was recommended to my by former LAPD officer.  Liked the feel of the gun in my hand (I have small hands) and I can handle it.  Your thoughts?

Posted by: mpfs, recovered from weekend in Vegas at December 21, 2010 12:02 PM (iYbLN)

I own a Millenium Pro PT145 and absolutely love the weapon. I carry it as my conceal weapon. 10 round mag of 45 ACP and I shoot 3 inch groups at 10 meters with it. A lot of firepower, easy to handle and deadly accurate.

44 Posted by: Soothsayer at December 21, 2010 12:17 PM (uFokq)

Purity baby! Purity!

Perfect is the enemy of good, and too many people are looking for Reagan 2.0. He just doesn't exist.

45
Primaries?

Primaries? Primaries? At the rate we're going, we'll be lucky to have one candidate standing when it's primary time. We'll ruling 'em out before they even get started!

46 Perfect is the enemy of good, and too many people are looking for Reagan 2.0. He just doesn't exist.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at December 21, 2010 12:21 PM (LH6ir)

But when it comes to the Constitution?  Perfection must be the goal, or it means nothing.

Once the Supremes decided that Rights could be overridden, for the "public good", without Amending the Constitution, we were in trouble.

 

47
There's nothing wrong with aiming for perfection and holding your leaders to high standards, as long as they're realistic standards, YOUR standards, not the NYT's standards.

48 Once the Supremes decided that Rights could be overridden, for the "public good", without Amending the Constitution, we were in trouble.

Fuck you!

49 We have got to stop being the stupid cocksucker party if we want to win in 2012. Do not let the New York fucking Slimes pick our candidates.

You'll elect who we tell you to elect, peon!

50 All this self-inflicted fragging is gonna get us another 4 years of Obama.
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 21, 2010 12:17 PM

While I agree to an extent, I can't see that the alternative -- cheering any R wildly, never asking questions -- is preferable.

Of course I also think Osama Obama should be sitting in a courtroom waiting for a jury's decision on his crimes by the time the '12 election rolls around, so maybe I'm what "Poppin' Fresh" would call an "outlier."

The problem, IMO, is that some people get so wrapped up in their candidates -- see: most Palin "discussions," the blather over O'Donnell before November -- that any questioning of said candidate's stands, abilities or record are immediately (and nastily) dismissed as "attacks."

51 Posted by: Romeo13 at December 21, 2010 12:24 PM (AdK6a)

Agreed. I am referring to candidates. A candidate may be imperfect, but rarely is he afforded enough power to damage the constitution. That takes a concerted effort. Unfortunately we have seen such efforts recently.

52 Chris Christie has the single best attribute I can see as a GOP presidential candidate- rightly or wrongly, he tells the truth as he believes it and doesn't care what the blowback is. He also has a great personality- a huge must today ( ask Jindal and Daniels about that). He is the Anti-Obama. Productive America versus the Leeches. He needs to run- it's there for the taking.

53

He sounds like Boss Hogg. He's too fat. He's a gun-grabber. She can't shoot animals the right way. She's a quitter. He's a flip-flopper.

All this self-inflicted fragging is gonna get us another 4 years of Obama.

I said Barbour sounded like Boss Hogg and he does. Look, I am fortunate to have lived in the south for all but nine years of my life so to me his accent is normal. But Tad and Muffy RINO in northern and western suburbia are going to see that he's from Mississippi and hear his voice and say, "Oh hell no." What he says is immaterial because they're never going to listen. I have no issue with him running if he wants to or people supporting him if they want to, I am saying that I don't think there's a chance in hell he'll get the nomination. Reality is that there's a large portion of the population that is shallow and superficial, I don't like it, but unfortunately a lot of them vote and they are going to be influenced by shallow and superficial characteristics. It's a major factor as to how we ended up with the current occupant of the White House.

54 But Christy let the conviction stand.  He is saying that Aitkin broke the law.  Was Aitkin's 2nd amendment right violated?  Did he actually break the law, or did NJ simply find a way to shut him down?  Christy might be great on taxes and spending, but not so great on the Second Amendment.

55 Tauri are o.k. They are very economical, and sized for concealed carry. However the Millennium line does not come in .45 (only 9mm, .380 and .32). I stay away from the smaller calibers. You might give the Glock 36 a try. It's a 'single stack' (as opposed to a staggered magazine like the XD45 with a consequently thicker grip) magazine CC pistol with a slimmer grip. I also don't buy that crap about women not being able to 'handle' .45. Besides, it's the caliber of choice for goblin slaying.

I carry a Springfield Armory XD45. But I'm a guy with normal-sized hands.

56 53 All this self-inflicted fragging is gonna get us another 4 years of Obama.
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 21, 2010 12:17 PM

While I agree to an extent, I can't see that the alternative -- cheering any R wildly, never asking questions -- is preferable.

---

Yes, but we need to see some research done, not just repetition of the Dem talking points and smears.

In this case, there appears to be a good reason why Christie didn't pardon Aitken. 

In the Barbour case, we're talking about a 28 year old allegation - not even a quote - that was rolled out when he ran for Senate.  No one has shown us what Barbour's response was then.  What we do know is that he did win statewide office twice in Mississippi.  We also know that he was endorsed by Espy, who is clearly a race-traitor for doing so.  Those latter two points were not pointed out in the blog posts, though.  They just repeated the NYT charge and went on a speculation binge.

Nor has anyone told us what's up with the staffer -- did he go work for the opposition?  It's be nice to know these things for context. 

I am not sure that Barbour, who has other shit to do running the state, should stoop to addressing recycled baseless charges.  In fact, I think he shouldn't.   

57 This is fucking bullshit. Aitken would have been better off in jail than with a commutation. If he didn't get his conviction overturned, a written apology from the - no... the JUDGE should have been arrested. I don't know why everyone's celebrating. Freedom is dead.

58 57 But Christy let the conviction stand.  He is saying that Aitkin broke the law.

Aitken's lawyers requested that.  Look upthread @30.

59 Posted by: The Highland Pipes at December 21, 2010 12:36 PM (Py/v5)

Millennium Line does have a 45 ACP, the PT145 I own one.

60 Whoops, yes the Millennium does come in .45. I don't know why I had it in my head that it didn't. Taurus has a lot of pistol models!

61
Yeah, that's the nice thing about the Electoral College & real Americans.

We don't need to worry about the northeast assholes in NY or the jerkoffs in WA and CA.

We need to win IN, NC, FL, ...

62
so, yeah, Jim Demint, for example, is electable.

63 mpfs, I have a Taurus 701 slim 9 - which is a good gun. Haven't touched the model you are referring too -- go somewhere that will let you fire one.

64 @60
This is fucking bullshit. Aitken would have been better off in jail than with a commutation.

Aitken himself respectfully disagrees with you.

65 I am not sure that Barbour, who has other shit to do running the state, should stoop to addressing recycled baseless charges.

Unfortunately, the hands-off-the-libtard-charges strategy doesn't work too well, either.

66 But Tad and Muffy RINO in northern and western suburbia are going to see that he's from Mississippi and hear his voice and say, "Oh hell no." What he says is immaterial because they're never going to listen.

While I'm also inclined to imagine the worst about the voters, I don't know of any actual evidence for that supposition.  Bush got elected twice, LBJ once, Jimmy Carter once.  All had pretty pronounced accents.

67
Aitken himself respectfully disagrees with you.

I think he was being funny.

68 Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at December 21, 2010 12:33 PM (JxMoP)

Weird. The same accent is hot in a pretty little thing with a great body.

69 The interview linked to @30 is long, but the relevant bit starts at 7:30.  The reporterette, who regrettably seems to be mildly brain-damaged, incorrectly refers to it as a pardon, but the lawyer explains what they requested (commutation) and why they requested it.


You don't have to be a Christie fanboy to give him full props for what he did vis a vis this case and the judge. 

70 70
Aitken himself respectfully disagrees with you.

I think he was being funny.
Posted by: The Mega Independent at December 21, 2010 12:48 PM

---

LISTEN TO THE LAWYER'S INTERVIEW AT NRA LINKED TO @30 STARTING AT 7:30.

C'mon people. 

71 Ace,
Could you link to the NRA interview of Aitken's lawyer so people can understand why Christie commuted instead of pardoned him?
www. youtube. com /watch?v=KJ6VPVrjcdE&feature=youtu.be

72 Fuck that. This case should have resulted in the judge's execution, a full pardon with punitive damages awarded to Aitken, and legalized open carry in New Jersey. And pot. Legalized pot. How thick do I have to lay it on for some of you? Sheesh.

73 @75
And eliminate the Fed! 

And the Joooooos!!!!

74 But more importantly, fuck New Jersey. Aitken's commutation is 'better than bad', but by no means is it good. He is still barred from exercising his God-given rights for an unjust prosecution.

The elite, and their families, are afforded more rights than the common man in that fucking socialist nanny tax gulag.

75 How thick do I have to lay it on for some of you?

I like mah peanut butter and jelly very, VERY thick, son.

And mah whole wheat bread imported only from the Provence region of France.

76 Posted by: mpfs, recovered from weekend in Vegas at December 21, 2010 12:02 PM (iYbLN)

Are you comfortable shooting the cartridge and cartridge load in this particular model of pistol? Can you shoot accurately and reasonably quickly?  If so, then this is likely a good choice; Taurus is a good brand.  If not, then choose a different gun / cartridge. Sometimes a milder load is the plan, sometimes a heavier gun. This you will have to determine at your firing range.  In any case, buy a quality weapon.

77 This is not good enough. It is not possible for a state legislature to make anything illegal which is a specifically enumerated right. Cristie should have pardoned him outright, and the Federal courts need to overturn the conviction as well.

I don't think gun owners (and voters) are going to be terribly impressed with Cristie's decision.

78 Are you comfortable shooting the cartridge and cartridge load in this particular model of pistol? Can you shoot accurately and reasonably quickly?

This. 

IMO, A good defense gun is one that you are not afraid to use.  Accuracy is nice, but since the average shooting occurs at a range of 24 inches, it's not the most important thing.  Even knockdown power is less important than your comfort in carrying, drawing and firing your weapon.  A .22 mag that you will drop the hammer on is better than a .45 hand cannon that you won't.

79 80 This is not good enough. It is not possible for a state legislature to make anything illegal which is a specifically enumerated right. Cristie should have pardoned him outright, and the Federal courts need to overturn the conviction as well.

I don't think gun owners (and voters) are going to be terribly impressed with Cristie's decision.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at December 21, 2010 01:03 PM

Christie did exactly what Aitken's lawyer's requested.  And he got rid of the judge. 

Watch. The. Interview. 

Skip to 7:30 if you're in a hurry. 

80
I sense a lot of yootoob spoofs of this guy...

in the pool...running alongside of the other swimmers in the lanes

81 The Aitken case was discussed at Hot Air yesterday.  It looks like Christie's commutation of Aitken's sentence frees Atiken, and allows Aitken to appeal, and with good prospects for a win. Atiken has a good chance of walking away a free man, cleared of wrongdoing and with all his rights intact.

82

I've followed this case a little bit. It appears that his argument that he was in the process of moving to explain having the guns in his car seemed to be a blatant lie. His room mate claimed to have seen the guns in their home in 2008, the arrest was in 2009.

 

I'm extremely liberal when it comes to gun ownership. I think EVERYBODY should be able to own one or more as long as they aren't under probation/parole, even convicted felons after serving their punishment. People make mistakes, if they can be reformed, why keep punishing them years later.

83 @84

It's not good enough!!! eleventy!!!!

Sarah Palin would have gone down to the NJ State Legislature with a rifle and forced them to change the gun laws!!!!!

Then, she would have field-dressed a caribou.

And her hair would be perfect!

84

@69 While I'm also inclined to imagine the worst about the voters, I don't know of any actual evidence for that supposition.  Bush got elected twice, LBJ once, Jimmy Carter once.  All had pretty pronounced accents.

Bush's accent wasn't as bad, plus he was from Texas (a bigger, more powerful state with a strong economy) and had the added bonus of being the son of a former President.

LBJ rode in on Kennedy's assassination, Carter rode in on the aftermath of Watergate, and Clinton rode in on "No New Taxes," a recession, and a 3rd party candidate. And they were Democrats, which is the ultimate trump card.

@71 Weird. The same accent is hot in a pretty little thing with a great body.

It's all about the presentation.

85 Very important to note that former prosecutor Christie  went against a prosecutor in this case. Something I have found most prosecutors rarely do.

In fact, I did not think he would since the Guild mentality always seems to trump justice in these cases.

86 Bush's accent wasn't as bad, plus he was from Texas  etc

Nonetheless, I'm trying to think of a candidate that didn't get elected because of his Southern accent and I'm coming up empty.

87 @75

And pot. Legalized pot.

What are you, some sort of commie hippie fascist?

A real American would also demand hookers.

88 85 I've followed this case a little bit. It appears that his argument that he was in the process of moving to explain having the guns in his car seemed to be a blatant lie.

I think the point is that now Aitken's lawyers can present those facts to a jury and let them decide if it's a lie.  The way it was handled in the trial, the jury was not allowed to decide on the facts. 

So not only did Christie do the right thing in terms of what Aitken's lawyers requested, he also did the right thing in terms of justice -- because now they will have to argue/decide on facts.  Had he pardoned him (which was not requested), the facts would never have been weighed by a jury.

89 @91
I mean "evidence" not "facts" being presented to / weighed by a jury.

90

@71 Weird. The same accent is hot in a pretty little thing with a great body.

It's all about the presentation.

-----

It's all about the packaging.

 

91
Christie did exactly what Aitken's lawyer's requested.  And he got rid of the judge. 

 Watch The Interview.

Skip to 7:30 if you're in a hurry. 

Posted by: Y-not at December 21, 2010 01:06 PM (IDL9N)

If this is part of a strategy to see this New Jersey law overturned, then I recant my criticism.

92 I've followed this case a little bit. It appears that his argument that he was in the process of moving to explain having the guns in his car seemed to be a blatant lie. His room mate claimed to have seen the guns in their home in 2008, the arrest was in 2009.

The NJ gun transport laws are a disaster. It is very difficult to be in compliance as you are only allowed to transport if you are going to or from a range or gunshop. Stop at a 7-11 for milk on the way and you just committed a felony.

I used to go to PA with a gun -- felony. I used to stop by a range after work -- felony. When I would go on long business trips I would sometimes take my guns to my parents house for safe keeping -- felony. Maybe he was like me and moved his guns to his parents house for safe keeping at certain times.

93 Thanks for the info morons.  I appreciate the help.

94 I'm a little late to this party (stupid two hour meetings), but I almost completely disagree with Ace as far as this being any form of pandering to (for wont of a better term) the anti-gun control crowd.

I think that Gov. Christie saw this as the miscarriage of justice it was and wanted to get it straightened out.  However much of a gun grabber he may be (and I don't know how much that is) I can't see that he's the type of guy would use some back-door method to start enforcing stricter gun control.

If he decides there are too many guns in NJ, and that some ineffective piece of legislation is the way to fix it, he'll try to go through the legislature.  I think this, which, as I recall, was basically someone ignoring the fact that the man owned guns completely legally and that, sometimes, the law can't cover all cases, decided to engage in their own little gun control crusade, and Gov. Christie didn't want any of that kind of thing to continue under his watch.

Doing it so quickly, relatively speaking, also sends a message to the cops and DAs in NJ that this kind of case is not worth their time and effort.

Now, if that also scores points with the anti-gun control crowd, I'm sure he doesn't mind that a bit, but I really don't think it weighs too much on his mind one way or the other.

95 Pssh. A .45 is not a 'hand cannon'. This is a hand cannon.

Do you have weak wrists?

96

RINO or NOT, either way Chris Christie is too vague on every issue to figure out what the fuck he believes.

 

 

97 A .45 is not a 'hand cannon'.

Tell that to Mrs928.  She is scared of mine, but will blast away with the 22 mag.

98 #46 - If you're a good shot, a .22-long automatic pistol will suffice. If you're not a good shot, buy a short barrel 12-guage shotgun with double-ought buckshot. Just a suggestion.

99

The NJ gun transport laws are a disaster.

I was trying to make sense of the hollow point laws earlier and just gave up.

Dude did have a large capacity magazine and should not have. Can't claim he totally knew the laws and was following them but had that with him.

100 Tell that to Mrs928. 

O.K.

Hey, Mrs928. A .45 is not a hand cannon. You need one for yourself, for Christmas, so you can learn to shoot it well. Pester the hubby for one.

Merry Christmas!

101 Being from New Jersey (a very good thing) and now in California (an awful thing), I trust NO politician from either place. Christie may play the bully pulpit well, but he is still a member of the choir.

102 Nonetheless, I'm trying to think of a candidate that didn't get elected because of his Southern accent and I'm coming up empty.

Posted by: toby928™ at December 21, 2010 01:12 PM (S5YRY)

Clayton Williams and his southern accented rape joke led to Ann Richards being elected Governor of Texas.

103

@71 Weird. The same accent is hot in a pretty little thing with a great body.

It's all about the presentation.

-----

It's all about the packaging.

 

 

It's all about the presentation of the hostesses' packaging.

104 Clayton Williams and his southern accented rape joke led to Ann Richards being elected Governor of Texas.

I doubt that Texans rejected a candidate because of his Texas accent.

Really, I'm not disputing that voters can have stupid reasons for their choices, (can I get an amen brother Allen), but I haven't seen any evidence that accent makes a difference.

Jus' sayin'.

105 this thread is ripe with stupid. be happy the man is out of jail. I am sure he is. give Gov. Christie credit for a decision that is the right thing. and to the guy above who said (in essense) "this is BS, he's better off in jail than with a commutation", you sir, are a complete idiot.

106 And if you find that you're near-sighted and a really, really bad shot. #46, practice running every day until you can run a 4-minute-mile. Another suggestion.

107 I doubt that Texans rejected a candidate because of his Texas accent.

Well, not entirely because of Claytie's accent, I''ll grant you that.  Just for fun, H. Ross Perot had a substantial East Texas twangy accent back '92 and '96 that many voters did not cotton to.  He's probably got the charts to show you.

108 Personally, #46, I prefer General Weasely Clark's correspondence course, which taught me how to weasel by way out of any uncomfortable situation. Another suggestion.

109

I just get a squish vibe from Christie when it comes to core values. Its like he's a conservative Mario Cuomo. He personally believes but won't impose his beliefs on others or some horseshit. It'd be nice to see him reaching out to the Palin-Rubio wings of the party.

110 Re: the mom calling the cops:

It is the oldest trick in the Lib/Commie playbook to declare their opponents mentally incompetent/unstable. After all, anyone who thinks differently than them, something just HAS to be wrong with them.

111

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In my opinion, Taurus makes handguns of decent quality.  However, I prefer their revolvers compared to their semi-autos.  I bought one of their little snubnose revolvers in .32 H&R Magnum for my father.  Not quite as powerful as a .38 Special but less recoil -- the old man's health isn't the greatest anymore.

I carried a Glock Model 36 when I was in the Detective Section.  Chambered in .45ACP with a six-round magazine plus one up the spout.  Not much bigger than my old Walther PPK/S but much more poweful.  The Model 36 has a nice pointability and feel.  On the downside, it definitely "snaps" in your hand on recoil due to being so light-weight a firearm.

112

This takes my love of Chris Christie from regular love to obsessive love. Love love love him!!!! I want him to be governor of every state, and President forever! Is that so wrong?

 

Bad Idea.

Never fall in love with a Politician, they'll always burn you in the end. I was a big fan of Newt in '94 & 95. See??

113 WalrusRex: "Government does something reasonable. Shocking!"

Well, part of government anyway. The other part still perpetuated the unreasonable component.

And yes, Ace, Christie did the rational thing here. This will help his gun tolerance bona fides a bit. A bit is a tad better than nil.

114 HERE'S WHAT I LIKE ABOUT CHRISTIE: Without fail, whenever I encounter a story about something happening in NJ that is BS, I think to myself, "If I were Governor, I would do THIS...". Without fail, that's EXACTLY what CHRISTIE does! Christie doesn't triangulate, he doesn't poll for what his position should be, he just follows his own internal compass and if you don't fuck you. The thing people admire about Christie is that he is that rare politician who is not a moving target. He doesn't tell you what you want to hear, he tells you what he BELIEVES. It's about time we had someone in charge who believed in more than their own aggrandizement. I would pay SuperBowl Tickets money to watch Christie in a POTUS debate with Obama. Christie would EAT HIS LUNCH. Right now, I think a Pence/Christie ticket would be very solid. Would love to see Christie at the top of the ticket, but knowing the Republican Party as I do - I doubt that will happen (he has some rino-ish positions whereas Pence is pure to the bone conservative).

115 I love me some BIG MAN...Christie in 2012.

116 on a lighter note... it certainly looks like Christie already ate Obama's lunch... like everyday for a year.

117 It should have been a full pardon.

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