September 07, 2010
— Ace At Hot Air's headlines, political scientists run 1000 simulated contests and find a 51 seat gain to be the most likely scenario. (Or, I guess, that's average of the scenarios, I guess an under-over.)
The below chart shows how many seats the Democrats are expected to win, and the peaks for each interval indicate the frequency that particular seat-count comes up. The red/blue is not about how many seats each wins; it just indicates that if Democrats win under 218 seats, as the case for most of the graph, then the House will be under Republican control.
Credit: Bafumi & Erickson
They cite one successful prediction...
Two weeks before Election Day in 2006, we posted a prediction that the Democrats would gain 32 seats and recapture the House majority.
But that's not a long track record, and I note they don't themselves call out their 2008 prediction. I assume that one was off.
In their chart, there is a genuine possibility of the Democrats only winning around 185 seats. The Democrats hold 256 seats now (including one open seat formerly controlled by them), so... well there seems to be a genuine possibility, on the high end of course, of a 71 seat gain. And I don't even believe that's the ceiling, either.
In more poll news:
Rasmussen: GOP holds 12 point advantage with likely voters. This matches the biggest GOP lead, ever, as found by Rasmussen.
Rasmussen: Fiorina takes (insignificant) lead over Boxer, 48-47. I still go by the rule tied is ahead, even on Rasumussen.
In this video, political reporters tell Scarborough that Feingold is in real trouble in Wisconsin.
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Posted by: Computer Simulations at September 07, 2010 10:08 AM (5aa4z)
Posted by: CAC at September 07, 2010 10:11 AM (lV4Fs)
Your predictions are off by 3 years.
Posted by: The Mayans at September 07, 2010 10:11 AM (9hSKh)
All I want is a repeat of my favorite DU quote from 11:40 PM, election night 2004:
"Fuck this, I'm sparkin a bowl."
Posted by: Bat Chain Puller at September 07, 2010 10:12 AM (SCcgT)
Posted by: joncelli at September 07, 2010 10:13 AM (RD7QR)
The pooled generic polls
conducted 121 to 180 days in advance of the 2010 election show a very close division of 49.1% Democratic and 50.9% Republican. But a near tie in the polls in mid-summer projects to a significant vote plurality for the Republicans in November, close to a 53%-47% split. This prediction is not due to any bias in the polls, but rather stems from the electorate's tendency in past midterm cycles to gravitate further toward the "out" party over the election year -- ultimately gaining about two extra points beyond what summer polls would otherwise show.
Sweet, if true.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at September 07, 2010 10:14 AM (5aa4z)
It'd be interesting to see how many Dem seats were gained by victories of >5% in '06 & '08.
Because I think this year all Republicans, thanks mainly to the Tea Party, have a five-point bump.
Posted by: i got a gal in kalamazoo...zoo...zoo...zoo at September 07, 2010 10:14 AM (uFokq)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at September 07, 2010 10:15 AM (eOXTH)
Posted by: Charlie Crist at September 07, 2010 10:15 AM (CgRyx)
All I want is a repeat of my favorite DU quote from 11:40 PM, election night 2004:
"Fuck this, I'm sparkin a bowl."
Posted by: Bat Chain Puller at September 07, 2010 02:12 PM (SCcgT)
Ah, DU. That lunatic site is always good for some schadenfreude when something good happens.
Posted by: Ombudsman at September 07, 2010 10:16 AM (c1oyg)
Never. Well, I tried once and figured out he was not worth wasting time on. I'm not even sure he is on any station in the Chicago area.
Posted by: CUS at September 07, 2010 10:16 AM (wOGfT)
Posted by: Comrade Arthur at September 07, 2010 10:17 AM (eyHnk)
Posted by: Chris Matthews at September 07, 2010 10:17 AM (Y81Xa)
Posted by: Mr Pink at September 07, 2010 10:18 AM (5cHfe)
Posted by: ace at September 07, 2010 10:18 AM (QbA6l)
Posted by: Liberal Talking Head at September 07, 2010 10:19 AM (8GYOu)
Posted by: Comrade Arthur at September 07, 2010 10:19 AM (eyHnk)
Posted by: Ben at September 07, 2010 10:20 AM (wuv1c)
Posted by: Chris Matthews at September 07, 2010 02:17 PM (Y81Xa)
I don't know, it's runny, it's brown, it has a fetid stench. I'm thinking more along the lines of liquid stool. Oh look, there goes a kernal of corn rolling down his ankle...
Posted by: runningrn at September 07, 2010 10:21 AM (8GYOu)
Never. Well, I tried once and figured out he was not worth wasting time on. I'm not even sure he is on any station in the Chicago area.
Posted by: CUS at September 07, 2010 02:16 PM (wOGfT)
--Well, The Rock was talking shit about Miami beating Ohio State Saturday, and the past hour has been all about The Rock (which is why rum would like it).
The best was when Rome played old clips of Hillary, 0bama and McCain talking smack WWE style. I could not believe they actually did those!
Posted by: logprof at September 07, 2010 10:21 AM (BP6Z1)
Posted by: Liberal Talking Head at September 07, 2010 02:19 PM (8GYOu)
Who do they poll? I've never gotten a call from a pollster. Then again, thanks to caller ID, if I don't recognize the number I never answer. As the RNC has been discovering over the past months.
Posted by: Ombudsman at September 07, 2010 10:22 AM (c1oyg)
Posted by: Blue Hen at September 07, 2010 10:22 AM (R2fpr)
Posted by: Hatchet Five
The holiday is indeed over.
Posted by: Winston Wolf at September 07, 2010 10:23 AM (R2fpr)
Posted by: Vic at September 07, 2010 10:25 AM (/jbAw)
Posted by: The Mega Independent at September 07, 2010 10:25 AM (TMNPc)
You know who Alan Grayson looks like?
Remember Earl Sinclair from the stupid show DINOSAURS? Yeah, him.
Posted by: i got a gal in kalamazoo...zoo...zoo...zoo at September 07, 2010 10:26 AM (uFokq)
Posted by: CAC at September 07, 2010 10:27 AM (lV4Fs)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOVxitMy47c
Posted by: CUS at September 07, 2010 10:28 AM (wOGfT)
I call bullshit. Vertical Blue Lines are way up on InTrade.
Posted by: The Mega Independent at September 07, 2010 02:25 PM (TMNPc)
Dance, my monkey! Dance!
Posted by: In before the troll, lameassed meme wrangler at September 07, 2010 10:31 AM (P9+0W)
Posted by: sherlock at September 07, 2010 10:32 AM (fKPuo)
IF I STAY TOO LONG PEOPLE TRY TO PULL ME DOWN
THEY TALK ABOUT ME LIKE A DOG
TALKIN' ABOUT THE CLOTHES I WEAR
BUT THEY DON'T REALIZE THEY'RE THE ONES WHO'S SQUARE"
Posted by: , at September 07, 2010 10:32 AM (p302b)
Is'nt this just wishcasting on our side?
Seriously... like Vic says, and it's been repeated here many times, "you can make a simulation say whatever you want it to say"
Sorry, I want this to be true just like every moron here; but if simulations are'nt good for predicting global warmeningBOO!!! (which they are not) then they are'nt good for predicting elections.
Both have too many variables. No one and no thing can predict the future.
Posted by: theBman at September 07, 2010 10:34 AM (/vN7m)
Posted by: Lincolntf at September 07, 2010 10:34 AM (hV/FZ)
Posted by: Jean at September 07, 2010 10:35 AM (Hx1qz)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOVxitMy47c
Posted by: CUS at September 07, 2010 02:28 PM (wOGfT)
--I was just talking radio, but yeah, the "Chris" Everett moment was . . . epic.
Posted by: logprof at September 07, 2010 10:37 AM (BP6Z1)
Posted by: CDR M at September 07, 2010 02:29 PM (5I8G0)
Madden b trippin
Posted by: Laurence Maroney's Tweet at September 07, 2010 10:38 AM (BP6Z1)
Posted by: CDR M at September 07, 2010 02:29 PM (5I8G0)
Geez, CDR M! Let's hope that they don't contain the "Madden Curse" while we're at it!
Posted by: runningrn at September 07, 2010 10:38 AM (8GYOu)
Posted by: Filly at September 07, 2010 10:38 AM (AloFK)
Posted by: Michael Mann et al at September 07, 2010 10:39 AM (9hSKh)
"EVERYDAY IN THE WEEK I'M IN A DIFFERENT CITY
IF I STAY TOO LONG PEOPLE TRY TO PULL ME DOWN
THEY TALK ABOUT ME LIKE A DOG
TALKIN' ABOUT THE CLOTHES I WEAR
BUT THEY DON'T REALIZE THEY'RE THE ONES WHO'S SQUARE"
How long until this ends up on an Oval Office rug?
If they win the 2010 elections, he'll have a new rug made for the oval office with this quote and attribute the source as himself.
Posted by: runningrn at September 07, 2010 10:40 AM (8GYOu)
Posted by: Mr Pink at September 07, 2010 10:40 AM (5cHfe)
Posted by: maddogg at September 07, 2010 10:40 AM (OlN4e)
Posted by: Jean at September 07, 2010 10:41 AM (u6OBh)
I responded that I was absolutely opposed to everything Obama stands for. They guy said, "Well, I guess that takes care of the rest of my questions."
Ha.
Posted by: doug at September 07, 2010 10:41 AM (MQlzc)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 07, 2010 10:41 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: maddogg at September 07, 2010 10:42 AM (OlN4e)
That will only make the crushing defeat that much better.
Posted by: mpfs at September 07, 2010 10:43 AM (iYbLN)
Posted by: maddogg at September 07, 2010 02:42 PM (OlN4e)
He's a city guy he don't know
Posted by: walking catfish at September 07, 2010 10:44 AM (fwSHf)
Posted by: Neo at September 07, 2010 10:45 AM (tE8FB)
He was polling close to 30% approval, so I am not surprised.
http://tinyurl.com/2cr8p4x
Posted by: CUS at September 07, 2010 10:46 AM (wOGfT)
Zogby had a scale on it's last survery where you get to take the cursor and run it up and down for Obama. I, of course, ran it all the way down.
During the last election, I was called by the group who was checking on election "knowledge". After I explained that Tina Fey said the thing about Russia and not Sarah, she exclaimed that I knew more than anyone she had called.
Morons are brillant.
Posted by: dagny at September 07, 2010 10:46 AM (wEZdg)
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at September 07, 2010 10:47 AM (9hSKh)
Then again, that didn't turn out too well....
Posted by: Filly at September 07, 2010 10:47 AM (AloFK)
Posted by: ace at September 07, 2010 10:47 AM (QbA6l)
Posted by: dagny at September 07, 2010 10:47 AM (wEZdg)
http://tinyurl.com/28gezvl
Posted by: mpfs at September 07, 2010 10:48 AM (iYbLN)
And political science isn't.
Posted by: AmishDude at September 07, 2010 10:48 AM (T0NGe)
Posted by: ace at September 07, 2010 10:49 AM (QbA6l)
You can come to my basement and watch star trek with me.
Posted by: dagny at September 07, 2010 10:50 AM (wEZdg)
Posted by: Mr Pink at September 07, 2010 10:50 AM (5cHfe)
Posted by: JonathanEllis at September 07, 2010 10:51 AM (BdzEV)
Posted by: robtr at September 07, 2010 10:51 AM (fwSHf)
Posted by: Investment Advice for Morons at September 07, 2010 10:51 AM (ejkmt)
Your predictions are off by 3 years.
Posted by: The Mayans at September 07, 2010 02:11 PM (9hSKh)
You crazy Mayans, one minute your foretelling doom on the skulls of your sacrifices, the next you're worshipping a head of cabbage named Ralph.
Posted by: Unclefacts, AoSHQ Pro Debate Team, Bacon Raconteur at September 07, 2010 10:52 AM (eCAn3)
Every Election Strategy not based on holding the Red State Senate is a guaranteed LOSER , and will result in the long term destruction of the country!
I am going to keep repeating this until it echoes in the Conservative Blogosphere and Conservatives actually follow this strategy.
Posted by: An Observation at September 07, 2010 10:52 AM (ylhEn)
Heh. One of my super-Marxist poli-sci profs tried to drum me out of the major with consecutive C's. I laughed very hard and sidestepped him by taking classes with only other profs who were only Marxists, not turbopricks. Graduated magna cum laude. fucker.
Posted by: Filly at September 07, 2010 10:52 AM (AloFK)
Over and over we are seeing these polls and stories, the red wave is acomin'. Even if various repubs step all over themselves and have to be dragged across the finish line.
At the end of the day, I'll be satisfied to see control of the house and 46 in the senate to have filibuster against rino's and dems. Not thrilled, but satisfied. Based on everything I see, my satisfaction is 100% guaranteed.
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at September 07, 2010 10:54 AM (L8kaT)
I hope to heaven that Michelle Obama isn't going to participate in the "pirouettes, jetes, gravity-defying leaps and maybe even some bumps and grinds" with the dancers...
Or maybe she'll just stick to "jazz hands".
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at September 07, 2010 10:54 AM (9hSKh)
Posted by: maddogg at September 07, 2010 10:54 AM (OlN4e)
Posted by: Investment Advice for Morons at September 07, 2010 10:55 AM (ejkmt)
I would love to see Michelle greeted with people singing "Proud to be an American".
Posted by: AmishDude at September 07, 2010 10:56 AM (T0NGe)
Posted by: Average Joe at September 07, 2010 10:56 AM (bN5ZU)
Posted by: dagny at September 07, 2010 10:57 AM (wEZdg)
A thousand pardons, madam, if some of us forgo that invitation to a Den of Decadence,
/I keed.
Oh, lookie at this.
Chicago Mayor Richard Daley announces he will not run for re-election in 2011 - chicagobreakingnews http://bit.ly/aSajMY
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at September 07, 2010 10:57 AM (9hSKh)
I hope to heaven that Michelle Obama isn't going to participate in the "pirouettes, jetes, gravity-defying leaps and maybe even some bumps and grinds" with the dancers...
All this talk of Michelle and poles has me excited.
For the election, of course.
Posted by: gator at September 07, 2010 10:57 AM (aOKEC)
thanks Ace *mwah*
Posted by: Filly at September 07, 2010 11:00 AM (AloFK)
Posted by: joncelli at September 07, 2010 11:00 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Jean at September 07, 2010 11:03 AM (Kgk5C)
This shouldn't happen to a dog.
Posted by: Blue Hen at September 07, 2010 02:22 PM (R2fpr)
Barbaric! Barbaric!
Posted by: Zombie Sheets Byrd at September 07, 2010 11:03 AM (mHQ7T)
Posted by: Average Joe at September 07, 2010 02:56 PM (bN5ZU)
Sure, Joe. Nobody gives a fuck about the economy, or how this fucktard is trying to wreck the country, they give a fuck that he plays golf.
I suppose Chairman Mao and Joe Stalin were team captains too. Let me be clear, I don't give a flying rat fuck about his athletic prowess, or lack thereof. Hell, he throws like a girl, at least GWB could clear the plate. On his bicycle he looks like fucking Pee Wee Herman, all he needs are the training wheels.
Posted by: maddogg at September 07, 2010 11:04 AM (OlN4e)
Posted by: Jean at September 07, 2010 11:04 AM (g8OOc)
Posted by: Ian S. at September 07, 2010 11:05 AM (p05LM)
Posted by: The Mega Independent at September 07, 2010 11:06 AM (TMNPc)
So unlike me, you got an actual education. Must have been nice.
Posted by: Filly at September 07, 2010 11:06 AM (AloFK)
Posted by: Lincolntf at September 07, 2010 11:07 AM (hV/FZ)
Posted by: Average Joe at September 07, 2010 11:08 AM (bN5ZU)
Posted by: Ron Johnson's Mom at September 07, 2010 11:13 AM (KDX07)
Who do they poll? I've never
gotten a call from a pollster. Then again, thanks to caller ID, if I
don't recognize the number I never answer. As the RNC has been
discovering over the past months.
Posted by: Ombudsman at September 07, 2010 02:22 PM (c1oyg)
My mother-in-law got a call from a Rasmussen pollster last night. Look for Obama, "Ma'am" Boxer, and "Moonbeam" Brown to drop a few more points in their next poll. ;-)
Posted by: Mary in LA at September 07, 2010 11:22 AM (NGf/6)
Posted by: Mary in LA at September 07, 2010 11:24 AM (NGf/6)
Posted by: Average Joe at September 07, 2010 11:28 AM (bN5ZU)
Chicago Mayor Richard Daley announces he will not run for re-election in 2011 - chicagobreakingnews http://bit.ly/aSajMY
I always love it when tyrants fall.
Posted by: Ken at September 07, 2010 11:29 AM (ftfkn)
That must be right because my computer added it to this post!
Posted by: Vic at September 07, 2010 11:31 AM (/jbAw)
Chicago Mayor Richard Daley announces he will not run for re-election in 2011 - chicagobreakingnews http://bit.ly/aSajMY
Good riddance to bad rubbish, and he must realize how bad he makes Chicago look. "Chicago's out? CHICAGO'S OUT?"
Posted by: Zombie Sheets Byrd at September 07, 2010 11:33 AM (mHQ7T)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at September 07, 2010 11:34 AM (mHQ7T)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 07, 2010 11:36 AM (P9+0W)
I was not saying that sports are everything, just that they touch a common nerve. In such trying times we need some relief from the daily grind. All work and no play etc.
Posted by: Average Joe at September 07, 2010 03:28 PM (bN5ZU)
Sorry Joe. That shit only works on me once.
Posted by: maddogg at September 07, 2010 11:38 AM (OlN4e)
True in more ways than one. You know who also didn't have a record to go by because the MFM did its level best not to reveal the thin veneer of a record Obama wore? American voters. See, just running for the President makes one qualified for the Presidency. It's just so painfully obvious now.
Well, now Obama has a previous record and America found it. That right there is a) the most powerful incentive American voters have to act more appropriately, and b) the biggest given pollsters have to recalibrating their predictions.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at September 07, 2010 11:57 AM (swuwV)
Posted by: JackT at September 07, 2010 12:45 PM (ga+7c)
If Mark Kirk wants to win the "Obama" US Senate seat in Illinois, he needs to up his game.
A good starting point would be to find the film clip of Obama talking about his role as a (honorary?) campaign manager for Blago. Obama even says something to the effect of "you betcha" when asked if this is good for Illinois. The interview was on Chicago Tonight--saw the clip a coupla years ago--it's out there but I don't have the google-fu to find it...
Also, Kirk should explain that his Cap-n-Trade vote, while tailored to the north-shore enviros is certainly NOT what is needed for the rest of Illinois and the country.
Posted by: TheThinMan at September 07, 2010 01:11 PM (W3XUk)
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Funny as shit, and even wherestherum should be listening.
Posted by: logprof at September 07, 2010 10:08 AM (BP6Z1)