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February 15, 2010

Control of the Senate
— Gabriel Malor

DrewM. sends this along as counter-point to my Eeyore-ism on retaking the Senate:

So I think the GOP will be favored in Indiana however the candidate field shakes out this week, and I think the GOP is favored in Arkansas, Nevada, Colorado, Pennsylvania, Delaware, and North Dakota as well. Win all those and you have a 52-48 Democratic Senate. Beyond that you have Illinois looking like a toss up and then California and New York looking like they definitely have the potential to become highly competitive based on the incumbents' lack of popularity and Washington and Wisconsin as maybe the longest shots for the GOP but possible with an A list candidate.
And really, if it's a 50-50 situation does anyone trust Joe Lieberman not to throw his hat with the Republicans? Three months ago I would have said Republicans have about a 5% chance of taking back the Senate. Now I'd put it more in the one in three chance range, and rising by the week. And who knows when the bad news for Democrats will stop pouring in...

Thanks, Drew.

I'm not ruling out Republican wins in AR, IL, PA, CO, or IN. That's why I wrote "toss up" next to those races. But, I highly doubt that Republicans are going to take Boxer's or Gillibrand's seats and anyone who holds up Scott Brown as an example is ignoring the unusually perfect GOP candidate, the exceptionally bad Democrat candidate, and the extremely unusual circumstances of the special election. None of Boxer's GOP challengers has managed to beat her in the polls yet, even though Democrats are having the worst year of their life.

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at 08:03 AM | Comments (76)
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1 NewYork? Who is actually running? You know, I find it hard to imagine a R Senator ever winning here again, in view of NYC being poart of New York State.... Governor, too...

Posted by: ParisParamus at February 15, 2010 08:06 AM (0YPx8)

2 Take it all, give nothing back.

Posted by: sifty at February 15, 2010 08:07 AM (dtf+L)

3 Beating her pole.

What?

Posted by: lorien1973 at February 15, 2010 08:08 AM (IhQuA)

4 The Dems had to put together an unbelievable streak - and steal the MN election - to get to 60. I certainly didn't think it was possible, but we seem to be in a wave mode, as elections get more and more nationalized.

I would hope that after the promises Obama made that the public does throw his party out of control in both houses in congress. The left has thrived on campaigning to the right, and then governing as hard core leftists.

It would certainly serve as a wakeup call to RINOs and those mythical "moderate" Democrats.

Posted by: 18-1 at February 15, 2010 08:09 AM (bgcml)

5 To tell the truth, I prefer some healthy Eeyore-ism to the the overly emotional (and knee-jerk) myna-bird reactions every possible conservative/Repub gain receives from a lot of the commentariat ("I'm lovin' it!" "How's that hope & change workin' for ya?" "Cloward-Piven!" and on and on and on).

It'd be great if we do get a significant power-shift to the Right, but I see no indications that it's a sure thing. Worth hoping for and working for, yes, but no slam-dunk.

A 50-50 Senate would be just dandy. I'm guessing some of the Dems would take that as an indication that they'd better be damn careful about mindless adherence to the Osama Obama Totalitarian Line.

Posted by: hope 'n' spare change at February 15, 2010 08:10 AM (Jhscs)

6 OT, but has everyone seen Gov. Christie's budget speech? Looks like the grownups are in charge in NJ now.

Posted by: Stealth Gay Academic Conservative at February 15, 2010 08:10 AM (aFROA)

7 AR is going RED, no doubt about it.

Posted by: libtard at February 15, 2010 08:12 AM (ngD76)

8 @3 Beating her pole.

What?

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The bitch is merciless.

Posted by: Bert Wilcewski, Barbara Boxer's Pole at February 15, 2010 08:12 AM (iBzKc)

9 Let's not rule out West Virginia. Byrd will most likely be burning crosses up in the sky by November, and WV has been trending more Republican every election.

Posted by: Paul Revere at February 15, 2010 08:13 AM (epgqp)

10 regarding NY's senate seat with Gillibrand. She's not going anywhere. Certainly isn't going to be a chance in hell an R takes that seat.

this state elected fucking HILLARY! not a chance in hell that seat goes R.

Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Meteors, and Buckets of Scorn for the Left at February 15, 2010 08:14 AM (erIg9)

11 I have to tell you all, I'm a bit concerned about these developments. I mean, we don't want government to be completely paralyzed, they still have to take care of the poor and the sick. Maybe we should think about letting the Dems keep the Senate as long as President Obama is on the right track, so that government can function smoothly and efficiently.

Posted by: Concerned Conservative Christian Republican at February 15, 2010 08:15 AM (1fanL)

12 Recall that we still have a political eon for the electorate to calcify in their anti-incumbent/Obama/Dem sentiments and what with the perpetual 'green shoots' that go down quicker than a team on budding speed skaters under the vice presidential motorcade and perhaps with a couple upsets we could pull it off. Plus I think the minority party only retaking half of congress in a wave midterm is certainly unprecedented. Unprecedented.

Posted by: MRI at February 15, 2010 08:16 AM (aVQo/)

13 Unless your party has about 65 or 70 votes, no one controls the Senate. If the Repubs get 45 or 46 seats, thet can slow things to a crawl and stop most of the BS. Being Senate Majority Ldr. is like being trail boss on a feral cat roundup.

Posted by: Hammer at February 15, 2010 08:16 AM (GkYyh)

No way MO flips this cycle, short of polls staying open until Thanksgiving in North St. Louis

Posted by: eddiebear at February 15, 2010 08:17 AM (wnU1W)

15 I give us one chance in three.

Posted by: Ramius at February 15, 2010 08:18 AM (wuv1c)

16 Don't worry, the Republicans will find a way to dick it up.

Posted by: Hammer at February 15, 2010 08:19 AM (GkYyh)

17 In a state with 40 million people, there is not 1 republican who can beat Boxer? The lady has Pelosi-like brain power. I'm starting to think California should be ceded back to Mexico.

Posted by: Dr. Spank at February 15, 2010 08:19 AM (muUqs)

18 None of Boxer's GOP challengers has managed to beat her in the polls yet, even though Democrats are having the worst year of their life.

Gabe, polling isn't as accurate on midterm races as it is for presidential election years. There's a good chance that the GOP candidates' supporters will be highly motivated to turn out while Boxer's supporters could be discouraged.

Not saying it WILL happen, but polling is especially weird in midterms and turnout could be skewed if the feeling all day that day is a Republican wipeout of Dems in eastern states.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at February 15, 2010 08:20 AM (SFRtJ)

19 I think this is more of a 'dare to dream' day then a worry about the numbers day. Right now, if nothing changes, Dems more likely than not hold the Senate, but that 'nothing changes' is a pretty invalid assumption since there's a lot of time between now and November and neither the policies being pushed by the Dems or exterior factors are likely to make things better for them in the interim. Lieberman flipping isn't likely, but it's nice to have that floating around for what it does to the Dems' psyche.

I think we are looking at a wave election, people will be voting against the Democrat party more than for any particular Republican candidates. So I think it's possible to get either Boxer or Gillebrand's seats regardless of their opponents. And if we get Gillebrand, I don't see how a voter votes against her for being a rubber stamp on the Obama agenda, but votes for Schumer, so if we get her, we get both. And Malamutts list leaves out WI and WA which have shown poll trouble for the Dems recently, so I don't think we're talking about a 51-49 Republican takeover, but a 53-48 or so.

In any case, the folks who care about the reputation vis a vis predictions (Gabe, most pollsters) aren't going to go out on a limb to suggest the most extreme outcome, so I feel safe assuming the election results will be better than just about anyone (outside Dick Morris) predicts at this point.

Posted by: Methos at February 15, 2010 08:20 AM (Xsi7M)

20 I give us one chance in three.

Nice ref.

Posted by: that guy that notes other posters obscure cultural references at February 15, 2010 08:21 AM (PD1tk)

21 Ye of little faith Gabe. California is a mess and the global warming scam is being exposed more on a daily basis. Connecting Boxer to that and blaming Ca's woes on her will most definitely mean her defeat. We are not nearly as blue as Mass as evidenced by the Propositions with a conservative slant that consistently pass. Boxer makes a bag of rocks look iconic. This state is tired of statism and the union thug vote will be suppressed by the state's economic woes. California is lean take-over. Do not doubt me.

Posted by: Brucein socal at February 15, 2010 08:21 AM (MX7La)

22 In WA state the rep's are not looking good. Our leadership is lacking leadership. )-:

Posted by: Dustoff at February 15, 2010 08:21 AM (jdXw+)

23 No need to defend your take on a...conservative.... analysis of things, Gabriel. It is still early in g the game to start calling states for Elephants. Still, the early reading of the pollsters' entrails gives some encouragement. Bayh's decision to retire will make Democrats have to fight for a seat they previously counted on keeping. The more $$ gets shunted into defending the "sure seats", like that former Kennedy fiefdom now returned to the Bay State, the less $$ there is to send to the marginal or trailing seats. Sure, there's no prospects for a mighty '94 rollback yet. But even a conservative half-rollback will nicely handicap the Hope and Change crowd. Personally I'd like nothing better than to saddle Obaka with a "read my lips" moment or two to take with him to 2012.

Posted by: exdem13 at February 15, 2010 08:23 AM (lYKj1)

24 And what about Oregon? Anybody, anybody? Just because we vote for stupid new taxes by 10% margins, doesn't mean Wyden is unbeatable! Truly...

Posted by: Realist at February 15, 2010 08:23 AM (Hu/Da)

25 And another concern I have. I don't think we've punished our party enough for the profligate spending they did in the last 8 years. I think we can all agree that Bush was not a fiscal conservative. I'm still a little leery of our party. It might be more prudent, more conservative, to keep the Democrats in power.

I'm going to pray about it.

Posted by: Concerned Conservative Christian Republican at February 15, 2010 08:24 AM (1fanL)

26
wow the GOP is really kicking off this big election year with a bang, huh!?!

The GOP hasn't lifted a finger to win big in 2010. This is pathetic. We're not gonna take the House this year. We're not gonna win shit with these assholes.

Posted by: This is Posted By at February 15, 2010 08:25 AM (a4A0f)

27 Ye of little faith Gabe. California is a mess and the global warming scam is being exposed more on a daily basis.

Posted by: Brucein socal at February 15, 2010 12:21 PM (MX7La)

Actually, that is an interesting point. I doubt much of the electorate has been paying close attention to what has been going on with AGW - unfortunately. But it really does seem to be falling apart.

If the pattern continues, and AGW is a joke come Nov, what effect does that have on the election? Obama will take a hit since he has been pretty public about it, but what about the Democrats as a whole?

Posted by: 18-1 at February 15, 2010 08:25 AM (bgcml)

28 I got a little carried away in the Bayh thread and said the GOP just won the Senate but it's more doable now than before.

IF Pataki gets in the race in NY, he'll win. That would make things very interesting.

Posted by: DrewM. at February 15, 2010 08:25 AM (9B5OK)

29 We are seeing the BEGINNING of an avalanche.

We are going to take the Senate back. And fighting against that so that Obama owns the failure is a real mistake. Either we believe he's a disaster and we fight him 100% or we don't. Every single Senate seat matters hugely. Ginsburg's replacement is going to be voted on by this Senate. Maybe Stevens's (probably that will happen much sooner, though).

They had a huge advantage and it will go away. Obama isn't bill Clinton and he will be a lame duck instantly. The GOP knows they have to put shit together and get it to Obama for a signature. Balance the budget a couple of times and get some tax cuts on businesses and watch the economy fucking blossom.

and we can remind the voters just who balanced the budget last time.

foreign policy is simply too important for a douche like Obama to ride to reelection on the GOP's fiscal sanity (or less insanity, really). He looks WEAK, and America is going to elect whoever stands against him in 2012.

but stop thinking long term. Shit changes too fast in today's world. Let's take what we can and play to win in 2010 in every race we can. If you can afford, you've never had a chance to donate to worth causes like this year. If you can volunteer, there is probably a close race near you somewhere. If you aren't running for your precinct to keep fixing the GOP, you better know the guy in your place is not a dumbass RINO.

Posted by: ducks Under Oklahoma ASCEND at February 15, 2010 08:26 AM (dUOK+)

30 I'm the black swan in the equation.

Posted by: Death at February 15, 2010 08:26 AM (PD1tk)

31 Bayh won't be the last one. Democrats do not want to end their career dealing with this horseshit. More will resign. In 2012 even more.

Posted by: ducks Under Oklahoma ASCEND at February 15, 2010 08:27 AM (dUOK+)

32 Senator Evan Bayh, D Indiana says he will not seek re-election. Another one bites the dust.

Posted by: bowel movement at February 15, 2010 08:28 AM (Fd5yK)

33 Call on Rossi.
Call on Thompson
Call on Pataki

Rossi doesn't want it? Funny, he wanted revenge against Gregiore in 2008. Put up or shut up, Dino. Now's your chance for revenge.

Tommy Boy could be convinced just to serve a single term, all it takes.

Someone bash Pataki over the skull until he starts drooling and says yes.
While a vegetable, he's still smarter than Gillibrandy.

As for us here in California, we have the richest bitch on the planet who somehow buys the cheapest (and most mystifying) ad possible fighting against Tom Campbell and a screamer from Orange County.

If the controversy over AirBoard 32 and the global warming job killing studies keeps rising, and we run Campbell or Devore against Babs ON THAT ISSUE ALONE, we win it by 3 or 4 points.

Posted by: theoneandonlyfinn at February 15, 2010 08:28 AM (lV4Fs)

34
and before you silly armchair cheerleaders call me eeyore, name one thing the Republicans have done that shows they really care about winning. Name one thing where the Republicans have shown they're proactive in 2010.

Simply put, the Republicans aren't gonna win if they keep sitting on their thumbs. The Democrats are already changing gears and have put back on their 'fiscal conservative/tax-cutting' hats. The Republicans, in September, will find themselves in contests with moderates, not radical leftwingers.

Posted by: This is Posted By at February 15, 2010 08:29 AM (a4A0f)

35 >>32 Senator Evan Bayh, D Indiana says he will not seek re-election. Another one bites the dust.

That deserves a flaming skull.

Posted by: Dr. Spank at February 15, 2010 08:30 AM (muUqs)

Posted by: 18-1 at February 15, 2010 12:25 PM (bgcml)

It is interesting. Because either way, the warmists are screwed. Either they were hoaxed, which calls their judgment into question, or they were in on the scam, which makes them crooks.

Posted by: FUBAR at February 15, 2010 08:30 AM (1fanL)

37 California- Rasmussen reports Likely Voter poll just released-
Carly Fiorina 42 Babs 46
Chucky Devour 42 Babs 47
Bruce Campbell 41 Babs 45

2 of 3 w/n the margin of error. AGAIN.
Boxer is no shoo-in.

Posted by: theoneandonlyfinn at February 15, 2010 08:32 AM (lV4Fs)

38 Simply put, the Republicans aren't gonna win if they keep sitting on their thumbs. The Democrats are already changing gears and have put back on their 'fiscal conservative/tax-cutting' hats. The Republicans, in September, will find themselves in contests with moderates, not radical leftwingers.

Posted by: This is Posted By at February 15, 2010 12:29 PM (a4A0f)

Whatever Eeyore. What concerns me is that, for some reason, my thumb smells like poopie.

Posted by: Senator X, (R - XX) at February 15, 2010 08:33 AM (1fanL)

39
You guys are abusing the flaming skull.

Besides, we ain't won shit, yet. The last I checked the Democrats had huge majorities in Congress, control of the Executive branch, and Al Fucking Franken is a member of the United States Senate.

Also, Ace should be the only one to fire up the flaming skull.

Posted by: This is Posted By at February 15, 2010 08:34 AM (a4A0f)

40 Steele needs to go as soon as this election cycle is over.

I kinda want him gone today, but maybe that wouldn't work. He cleaned house at RNC and that means it's going to be hard to get rolling without him for a while.

But he's counter productive. Ideally, I'd replace him with Romney, but I know Romney wants to run in 2012 (and I'm glad he'll ensure the actual nominee has to compete with him... even though Romney's a ridiculously poor leader he is a very skilled politician).

Maybe put Huckabee in charge of the party? Or Fred! Better yet, someone very credible with the TEA party. Perhaps that person could hit the ground today calling to clean up the GOP and then take over the party.

Not saying Palin, because she is a good, honest leader, but she would really be great at RNC in many respects. And while I'd be so happy with her in the White House, I know a lot of people think she is unelectable (I think she's actually harder to demonize that the rest of the field at this point).

Posted by: ducks Under Oklahoma ASCEND at February 15, 2010 08:36 AM (dUOK+)

41 Bruce Campbell ??

Posted by: toby928 at February 15, 2010 08:36 AM (PD1tk)

42 Does anyone trust Joe Lieberman on anything, anymore?

Posted by: D. at February 15, 2010 08:36 AM (/rqW8)

43 37: Interesting. Babs is in trouble being that far below 50 and it looks like any R performs the same at this point. I think even Demonsheep (R-CA) would be within the MOE of Babs right now.

Posted by: AmishDude at February 15, 2010 08:37 AM (T0NGe)

You guys are abusing the flaming skull.

What are you, the blog police?

Posted by: The Real Blog Police at February 15, 2010 08:38 AM (T0NGe)

45 #41
what my fiancee called Tom Campbell by accident.

Posted by: theoneandonlyfinn at February 15, 2010 08:38 AM (lV4Fs)

46 I am a California Democrat; I have also voted for Boxer before. Therefore, trust me when I say that there is no way we are re-electing Babs Boxer to the Senate. There are many reasons for this, but the key ones are:

* Chuck Devore, who is a true Tea Party activist and has been inspirational to people of all political leanings.
* The CA Senate race is of interest nationally, and the independent Democrats of HillBuzz (who were a key force in promoting "Hottie McAwesome" Brown in MA, are providing support and spreading the news nationwide.
* Her contemptible treatment of Brig. Gen. Michael Walsh will not be forgotten by Californians.
* Her support of Cap-and-Trade -- the state has an equivalent standard that is killing California economically.

You can call her "Former Senator"; she worked hard to get that title, too.

Posted by: Mutnodjmet at February 15, 2010 08:39 AM (9/yef)

47 what my fiancee called Tom Campbell by accident.

Bummer, I was thinking that the chainsaw hand would be useful in the debates.

Posted by: toby928 at February 15, 2010 08:39 AM (PD1tk)

48 You guys are abusing the flaming skull.

Who gives a rat's ass what you think? I surely don't.

Posted by: Hatchet Five at February 15, 2010 08:40 AM (DTffv)

49 Abusing a flaming skull requires great care, and a fire extinguisher.

Posted by: Dr. Spank at February 15, 2010 08:41 AM (muUqs)

50 American Thinker has a wonderful article on the fallacy called wind power. The road to Palm Springs is lined with these useless, ugly monstrosities. I am in the energy biz and have been railing against green (crap) power for years. The chickens are coming home to roost and Boxer has been front and center on this issue. Toss in California's horrendous economy that has been run into the ground by 20 years of statist Dem control and you start to get the picture. Once we have a candidate to get behind, Boxer's numbers will tank. She is already below 50%. This is an off-year election without Obama to bring out black turnout. The only thing Boxer has is the union machine. However, Californians are PISSED (finally) at unionized government leeches and are getting more and more educated on how they bankrupted this state.

2010 is gonna make 94 look like patty-cake. Do not doubt me.

Posted by: Brucein socal at February 15, 2010 08:41 AM (MX7La)

51 I think even Demonsheep (R-CA) would be within the MOE of Babs right now.

Demonsheep would eat the Babs voters and the ACORN fraudsters, ensuring all ballots cast would be for itself. Fiorina's got a tougher row to how.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at February 15, 2010 08:41 AM (mR7mk)

52 What is best in life? To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.

Posted by: Conan at February 15, 2010 08:44 AM (DTffv)

53 People should remember that the GOP doesn't have to win the senate in 2010... the real bloodbath is going to be 2012 when the seats up for grabs are MUCH more favorable to the GOP.

Don't count on a GOP senate this year, but with these numbers you can bank on a majority in 2012 or even a supermajority.

From "Liberal Realignment" to "Fiscal Con Supermajority" in 4 short years. Hell of a job, Obambi!

Posted by: DoDoGuRu at February 15, 2010 08:47 AM (31pnY)

54 "Does anyone trust Joe Lieberman on anything, anymore? Posted by: D."

Hell yes.

I trust Joe to follow his morals almost all the time. I don't agree with him on many, perhaps most issues, but that is a patriotic man who commands some respect. He is not Arlen Specter.

If Joe was president today, our nation would be saved. He isn't on my top 100 list of prospectives, but if the Democrats nominated him they would save their party, too.

Posted by: ducks Under Oklahoma ASCEND at February 15, 2010 08:47 AM (dUOK+)

Being Senate Majority Ldr. is like being trail boss on a feral cat roundup

This is beauty right here. Which I will steal without shame or reluctance.

Posted by: Blue Hen at February 15, 2010 08:48 AM (R2fpr)

56 The road to Palm Springs is lined with these useless, ugly monstrosities.

I remember well driving through there when Kalipornia was going through their self-inflicted grey-outs some years ago. The wind was blowing, and half of them weren't turning. Now I am in favor of about any energy that doesn't come from the damned Arabs, but the Kalipornia government has demonstrated extraordinary abilities to fuck up a wet dream. You'd think the RNC staff was running the place or something...

Posted by: Hatchet Five at February 15, 2010 08:48 AM (DTffv)

57 Demonsheep would eat the Babs voters and the ACORN fraudsters, ensuring all ballots cast would be for itself. Fiorina's got a tougher row to how.

Demonsheep does not eat fellow FCINO's. Thus Babs would be spared.

Posted by: Demon Sheep at February 15, 2010 08:50 AM (DTffv)

58 At this point the it is the enthusiasm numbers which are scaring Dems, which drives candidate recruitment (or in this case, retirement). Their financials and internal polls must be grim.

Posted by: Jean at February 15, 2010 08:54 AM (PjevJ)

59 When you put Arkansas as a toss-up and not going red, it makes me question everything else you state. How many more points does Blanche Lincoln have to fall behind before you feel confident Arkansas is going Republican? If not 20 points them maybe 30...'cause it's going that way!

Posted by: Jim at February 15, 2010 08:55 AM (y2gov)

60 @46 You can call her "Former Senator"; she worked hard to get that title, too.

Nice.

Posted by: pep at February 15, 2010 08:56 AM (0K3p3)

61 I don't believe they will get the Senate unless wehave a miracle. I do believe they will get the House.

Posted by: Vic at February 15, 2010 09:03 AM (QrA9E)

62 @61

We got our miracle. It was Obama beating that squish McCain. Leftism has been exposed to the entire country for what it is. Hell, the global warming scam is showing leftism to the entire world for the hoax it is.

Posted by: Brucein socal at February 15, 2010 09:09 AM (MX7La)

63 " the exceptionally bad Democrat candidate"

Yes, because Boxer is everyone's dream candidate. True perfection.

Posted by: ken twatson at February 15, 2010 09:13 AM (FlJ2V)

64 The question is moot.

Posted by: mayan calendar at February 15, 2010 09:18 AM (PD1tk)

65 this state elected fucking HILLARY! not a chance in hell that seat goes R.

I totally agree.

Posted by: Al D'Amato at February 15, 2010 09:24 AM (XIUQZ)

66 Hillary is a moderate, so the seat could go R. I'm just sayin'.

Posted by: Someone who isn't Hillary at February 15, 2010 09:28 AM (1fanL)

67 Of course the Ron Paul Libertine Troofer wing doesn't think the GOP can ever win without coming out for the gold standard.

Losers - who needs 'em? Better leave it to the Democrats than be forced to associate with Paulist scum.

Posted by: Adjoran at February 15, 2010 09:40 AM (HeULl)

68 OT, but has everyone seen Gov. Christie's budget speech? Looks like the grownups are in charge in NJ now.

Wow -- Impressive speech.

Posted by: pbrown at February 15, 2010 09:43 AM (XIUQZ)

69 It'd be nice if somebody would stand up to challenge Schumer this year too. Gillibrand probably won't survive, but alot of people are pissed at Schumer. Some of his Wall Street buddies are pissed that he's let Obama throw 'em under the bus. You'd think somebody'd be able to tap into that. If anyone represents Washington out of control, its Schumer. You get a pro-growth fiscal conservative like Kudlow to run and it'd be a race. Oh Schumer has all the advantages of incumbency to be sure, but I think he's got a glass jaw.

Posted by: Iblis at February 15, 2010 09:50 AM (9221z)

70 Don't accept an Apocalypse theory from a civilization that wasn't smart enough to leave a forwarding address.

Posted by: sifty at February 15, 2010 09:53 AM (UQs2y)

It makes no difference what the makeup of the Modern Supine Congress is ....

Obongo's gonna rely on Executive Diktat and his Czar system

Any of you not notice that ? Hmm ? More RINOP = same FAIL

Three Boxes 1) soap 2) ballot 3) cartridge

Notice Obos' reaction to #1 ? Seen any Indicators on how this administration feels about Freedom of Speech ? Didya notice any commentary during his SOTU speech, maybe directed toward that arena ? How about Religion other than Muzziedom ? Hmm ? Think they have plans for #2 box ? Any guesses on how Statists view "instrumentality" and box #3 ?

Deduce. Go ahead, give it a shot Hint: follow the data

Posted by: OhioDude at February 15, 2010 09:59 AM (mDeen)

72 And really, if it's a 50-50 situation does anyone trust Joe Lieberman not to throw his hat with the Republicans?

This still doesn't break our way. At 48-48-2, we would need both Liebermann and Sanders otherwise, it's still a tie and Biden breaks the tie. Sanders will never caucus with us in a bazillion years.

Posted by: Steve L. at February 15, 2010 10:15 AM (mIIVr)

73 Nice to hear the optimistic tone from the CA posters. Now if we can get 500,00 more like them, we'll have something here.

Posted by: exdem13 at February 15, 2010 10:25 AM (lYKj1)

74 #73: 500,000 is just about the number involved in all the Tea Party groups in California. Just watch!

Posted by: Mutnodjmet at February 15, 2010 10:52 AM (9/yef)

Sanders will never caucus with us in a bazillion years.

Neither will old Joe. He has a CRU rating of 17 so I never have seen what everyone sees in him. He votes solidly with the Dems.

Posted by: Vic at February 15, 2010 11:20 AM (QrA9E)

76 Lieberman is a liberal. Period. He'll vote conservative on national security issues and most national security votes now have everything to do with the Middle East/Israel. That's it.

His rhetoric is calm, collected, thoughtful, and, apart from national security as described... almost inevitably liberal. His record speaks for itself.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at February 15, 2010 12:08 PM (swuwV)

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