1 Someone make with teh funny.  I need it today.

2 Without me, Jerry Springer shows would have no content.

Do you really need a further explanation?

3 OT: Drudge reporting Rahm Traded Favors with Blago

4 Orange Powers Activate!

5 Floriduh.

6 Form of... an ice furnace.

7 3 OT: Drudge reporting Rahm Traded Favors with Blago Posted by: USA at June 21, 2010 03:06 PM (YZISw) Were they in the shower?

8 Rubio did himself no favors by defending Romneycare since Romney endorsed him. That turned many people off who I talk to down there.

9 LONG way to go on this race.  Rubio has barely even introduced himself to general electorate.  Not worried.

10 7 I know. It sounds like a condom should have been involved.

11 "Marco Rubio, David Rivera face foreclosure on Tallahassee home"
from the comments:
"Rubio sure has money problems, federal investigation for credit card use, still waiting for his ‘09 tax returns he is sitting on. Mortgage foreclosures, yes, real senatorial material…He should have used the rep. party credit card!"

12 Once the primaries are over, Demo support will switch from Crist to Meeks.  Right now the polls are more a statement of overall approval of Crist's apparent concern about the oil spill

Once Rubio becomes the nominee of and spokesman for Florida Republicans, he'll gain substantially in the polls.  People still see Crist as current gov rather than Senate candidate

13 The big problem for Crist is the Democrats.  I don't think they'll go for him the way Republicans went for Lieberman.  Especially if Meek is nominated.

14

There is something in the water down here that makes people crazy.

15 I am so worried.  If the election were tomorrow, Rubio would like, lose and stuff.

16 Rally around the Flag effect for the Governor due to the oil spill crisis -- this bump in his numbers won't sustain on its own.

17 Orange is the new half-Kenyan.

18 Crist is dead set against drilling off of Florida's coasts, as are a majority of Floridians. This is an oil spill bump.

19

"crist charlie (as we call him here in florida - because everything is backwards with him), "

from one of the comments in the linked article

20 Love flip-flops, jorts, and tank tops, we can't help it.

21

You think after the fiasco in 2000, Floridians really wanted to shed that whole Flori-duh image.

But it seems they really want to hold onto that trophy.

22 I live in Florida and want none of the above, they are all open borders scum.

23 Between the flip-flops, Meek/frozen orange juice crop report jokes, oompa-loompa songs and beach booty-scopin' photos, it's been one hell of a strange election season.

24 You know maybe Obama had something with letting the old people die off.

Florida's senior population is proving his point.

25

I looked at an interactive map the other day that Dave in Texas ( I think) put up. You could click on any county in the U.S., and it had black lines for people moving into the county from wherever they were moving from, and red lines for movement out of the county. The map of many counties in Florida were solid black from the Northeast. Especially New York. Something tells me all those people moving into Florida from the Northeast weren't conservatives. Demographics in Florida are changing.

Incidentally, Houston and Dallas looked like most of the United States were moving in next door.

Disclaimer: The map was for the 2008 calendar year. I doubt it has changed that much.

Of course, i could be wrong.

26 You guys, you misquoted me. What I found in Florida was "The Fountain of Dupes."

27 Floriduh is proving once again that they are stuck on stupid.

28 How appropriate. An AARP banner ad on the Florida thread.

29 Could be Florida just has a population that consists of complete senile fucknozzles.  Must be all that humidity, can't possibly do the brain any good.

Also Rubio is turning into an ass.  He's losing tea party support by acting all McCain like and shit.

30

You think after the fiasco in 2000, Floridians really wanted to shed that whole Flori-duh image.

But it seems they really want to hold onto that trophy.

 

And we thought that this was our year to shine.

31 Lot of you folks putting store in a poll by an unknown polling organization????  WTF

If it ain't the Ras you can't trust it. I ain't worried a bit by this stupid poll.

32

I looked at an interactive map the other day that Dave in Texas ( I think) put up. You could click on any county in the U.S., and it had black lines for people moving into the county from wherever they were moving from, and red lines for movement out of the county. The map of many counties in Florida were solid black from the Northeast. Especially New York. Something tells me all those people moving into Florida from the Northeast weren't conservatives. Demographics in Florida are changing.

That may sum it up. Florida, where liberals still stuck in the New Deal era go to die.

33 Problem Rubio has basically disappeared down here, not only that he looks like he is sidling up to the establishment Gop. Big Mistake. Perception counts and nobody this election cycle likes the Ds or Rs so if you got that behind your name you better find a way to say your different like Scott to McCollum. Or get the Sarah Palin stamp of approval, seems like he distancing himself from her as well. NOT a good idea.

34

I'm a native Miamian, currently living out-of-state, and can tell you this poll means nothing much. People know who Crist is, know that Meeks is too extreme, and have heard the bad press about Rubio, ergo a few more people saying, "I'll vote for Crist," may be a more likely answer to hear this week.

Also, a +/- 4% margin of error, split among 3 candidates and a 657-person sample? Sounds too small for me, especially in a very large and diverse state. This is still Rubio's election to lose, and he'd have to work to do that. If these financial problems prove to be serious, all bets are off.

35 Rubio did himself no favors by defending Romneycare since Romney endorsed him.

Jeb Bush told him if he hitched his wagon to Romney, he could be the VP. Besides, he's won the primary.

36

I hope you're right Joe Y. I'm a semi-native Miamian (moved there when I was three) now living at the opposite end of the state.

First off, Rubio is establishment GOP. Perhaps not in the sense that one would think, he wasn't the national parties candidate or the chair of the RPOF's candidate. The later should surprise no one since Greer is Crist's boy and given Greer's experience (deputy mayor of Oviedo and lobbyist) he probably didn't have the history in the party that Rubio does (who was elected to the state house in 2000). But Rubio is still listed on Miami-Dade GOP's website as state committeeman. You sign an RPOF loyalty oath with the county GOP, which states that you can't bad mouth the party (I can't find it for the exact words). If he is so disposed, he really can't say anything negative about the Republican sitting AG. I don't know what he's said about Scott. However, Rubio is a great candidate and has a lot of promise as a leader. I would hate to see a career opportunist beat him.

37 I have no use for Christ. but maybe just maybe, the 'true conservative' pool of even potential voters is a LOT smaller than some here might want to believe. I expect Rubio will indeed lose in November, which basically means that political fanatics have booted away a SAFE seat. Not lost a potential pick up, but thrown away a seat you already had. That's fine work by any standard.

38

Dougf,

Yes, we've booted a great leader and fine thinker by eschewing Crist for Rubio. Rubio isn't exactly Florida's Rand Paul, and I mean no disrespect to the younger Dr. Paul by stating that. The most controversial statement Rubio has made, I believe, is that retirement age for Social Security ought to be raised because we can't afford to support people from 65 on (the retirement of the government pensioner in Bismark's Germany). Crist, on the other hand, has one goal: The advancement of Charlie Crist. If you can stomach another unabashed careerist with no moral compass in the U.S. Senate, then perhaps you do have use for "Christ."

39 As a 42-year resident of the Sunshine State, I'm not particularly worried. Let Guv Orange Glow run through the money he stole from the gullible GOPers stupid enough to send it to him. Let Rubio keep his powder dry for a little longer - until the oil spill crap goes away. The election is 4 months away. Our primary hasn't even taken place yet. Why waste a bunch of $ on ads that most of the state won't even be paying attention to yet? And yeah, Flori-duh somewhat deserves its moniker but mostly for voting for Obama in 2008, along with a lot of other swing states, I might add. Oh, and it's the crazy counties that should get the Stupid tag: Palm Beach. Broward. & Miami-Dade. The rest of us are pretty sane.

40 39 Oh, and it's the crazy counties that should get the Stupid tag: Palm Beach. Broward. & Miami-Dade. The rest of us are pretty sane.

Hmmm, let me guess which counties in FL have the largest populations of native NE blue-staters.  Those locusts do the same thing to every red state they invade.

41

Actually, I'm pretty sure Rubio will win. 

1.  As much as it shouldn't matter, he has a Hispanic name.  Which means a lot of Hispanics will probably vote for him if they follow South Carolina Dem voter group patterns - the "Alvin Greene sounds like a black name, so I voted for him" thinking.  Sad to say, but heck . . . maybe once in a while that can work in conservatives' favor.  And Rubio is from Miami-Dade. 

2.  Rubio will destroy Crist in any debates. 

3.  Rubio is quietly collecting ad material for the real campaign as Crist makes an ass of himself around the state. 

4.  We have a heavily GOP state house and senate, and practically all of the state offices:  the exceptions are Guv Orange Glow and Alex Sink

5. Although many people crack on Jeb Bush, there is no denying he was a very popular Governor here; he and Rubio campaigning together will be effective. 

6.  Jim Greer, Crist's best bud, is in deep doo-doo.  it will be easy to tie Crist to him. 

7.  Our AG, Bill McCollum is running for Governor, he is leading the legal fight against Obamacare, and Floridians hate Obamacare.  That will do nothing but help the GOP brand in Florida, and thus Rubio. 

8.  Obama and Crist hugging.  Seeing that night after night will penetrate a lot of the squishy middle's thick skulls, once the election season heats up.   

9.  No getting around it:  Rubio is way better looking than Crist.  He'll get the soccer mom vote. 

10.  And if all else fails, the GOP better be prepared to haul out the heavy artillery against Crist IYKIMAITYD. 

42 Things will not look so good for Crist when Greene beats Meek in the Democrat primary. Greene, a traditional liberal, with money from business success to self-fund his race, will squeeze Crist from the left.

43 I also am from Florida and I don't believe the Meeks numbers - I don't think they really are that low.  I think that a lot of democrates are stating that they are for Crist trying to throw some sort of monkey wrench into the works.

44

The Crist-Rubio race holds nothing on theScott-McCollum race. It's getting downright nasty over in those camps.

Scott never launched a bomb until this week, and only after McCollum came out a few weeks ago with awful...and I do mean awful...ads aimed at Scott, essentially calling him a thief. Then, last week, McCollum launched a new set of ads about how Scott's hospitals had turned away poor people and let one old man die on their doorstep.

Scott finally came back this week with the 'Washington insider' ads against McCollum.

I need to do some research to see if the ads against Scott hold any truth but, at this point, the ads are so fucking nasty that, even if I didn't vote for Scott, I'm not certain I'd want to pull the lever on McCollum either.

Who's our third choice?

45

Screeeeeeeech!!!11!!  It's all over!!!11!!  Somebody sell out or it's all over. 

You know, I'm almost hoping this is true, because [some lame twist of pseudologic].

Exit question:  time to nominate Crist for the GOP?

46 15 I am so worried.  If the election were tomorrow, Rubio would like, lose and stuff.

Posted by: Concern troll at June 21, 2010 03:19 PM (ZESU0)

 

37 I have no use for Christ. but maybe just maybe, the 'true conservative' pool of even potential voters is a LOT smaller than some here might want to believe.

I expect Rubio will indeed lose in November, which basically means that political fanatics have booted away a SAFE seat. Not lost a potential pick up, but thrown away a seat you already had.
That's fine work by any standard.

Posted by: Dougf at June 21, 2010 05:14 PM (uJihA)

 

I decline to comment...you make the call.

47 44

The Crist-Rubio race holds nothing on theScott-McCollum race. It's getting downright nasty over in those camps.

Scott never launched a bomb until this week, and only after McCollum came out a few weeks ago with awful...and I do mean awful...ads aimed at Scott, essentially calling him a thief. Then, last week, McCollum launched a new set of ads about how Scott's hospitals had turned away poor people and let one old man die on their doorstep.

Scott finally came back this week with the 'Washington insider' ads against McCollum.

I need to do some research to see if the ads against Scott hold any truth but, at this point, the ads are so fucking nasty that, even if I didn't vote for Scott, I'm not certain I'd want to pull the lever on McCollum either.

Who's our third choice?

Alex Sink? 

/ducks

48 Marybeth, at this point, Sink could simply put ads on t.v. , pointing and laughing at the other two, and walk away with a victory. I don't even know Sink's platform, but it couldn't be any worse than these two clowns.

49

48  I don't even know Sink's platform, but it couldn't be any worse than these two clowns.

Yes, it could - and is

50 wow