October 17, 2010
— Dave in Texas As usual, it's the conservative against the Dem and his sympathetic moderator, but Sean holds his ground admirably here. Long (hey, it's a debate, 28 mins or so), but worth a watch to see how a) Barney fumbles and mush-mouths his answers while twisting his own personal record, and when confronted with it, dives into the weeds of "inside the beltway, politics on the hill" bullshit, and b) Sean doesn't give an inch, even to the the hostile moderator who sees when things look bad for Frank and hustles on to some talking point/gotcha questions.
He keeps his cool, and lets Barney step on himself. Quite a few times.
Am struck mostly with Barney's emphatic defenses that dive down into the "sausage-making of politics", which is his way of deflecting personal accountability, and Bielat's patience while pressing his points, and not giving in on Barney's blabbing assertions.
Interesting stupid question at 15:10 or so, "hey, what if the tax cuts were only for the rich and not the middle class, would YOU SUPPORT THAT?"
For cryin out loud.
Oh, in case you hadn't heard, Sean Bielat is a Major in the United States Marine Corps Reserve who killed terrorists and builds robots to kill more of em*.
As a Program Manager.
Lemme tell ya, PM over killer robots is a tough job.
* I don't know that the robots actually kill terrorists, but it would be awesome if they did.
UPDATED: Oh, the robots kill IEDs before they can kill our soldiers.
I knew that, I think, just screwed it up. My bad.
via several RTs here.
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Posted by: Drew in MO at October 17, 2010 05:08 PM (lyqOD)
Posted by: MrCaniac Butcher at October 17, 2010 05:08 PM (aaULJ)
Posted by: Dave S. at October 17, 2010 05:09 PM (UvR6d)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 17, 2010 05:10 PM (9Cooa)
Wouldn't he most likely be building bomb-disposal robots?
Wait, there are these robots that fire small-arms:
Foster-Miller TALON
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at October 17, 2010 05:10 PM (c0A3e)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 17, 2010 05:11 PM (9Cooa)
Barney Frank is such a douchebag I don't even want to listen to it, but Yay for the Major!
Posted by: Cynthia at October 17, 2010 05:12 PM (owj6a)
Posted by: NY Betsy Rose at October 17, 2010 05:14 PM (3yMCG)
In 2010, Sean Bielat's robots became self-aware. And he was well-pleased.
Barney Frank-not so much.
Posted by: pep at October 17, 2010 05:16 PM (8zlLq)
I see what you did there.
*washes brain out with rum*
Posted by: HeatherRadish at October 17, 2010 05:17 PM (Vz9lf)
Posted by: huerfano at October 17, 2010 05:17 PM (No0N3)
Posted by: Blackford Oakes at October 17, 2010 05:18 PM (0IR+C)
The fact that this boil has gotten re-elected even once is pathetic.
Sending Bielat some more money when we get paid.
Posted by: sifty at October 17, 2010 05:19 PM (pzI2c)
Bielat rocks. Hope he sends Bwawny back into the male prostitution biz.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 17, 2010 05:20 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: ziptie at October 17, 2010 05:24 PM (UdYT0)
Posted by: ziptie at October 17, 2010 05:26 PM (UdYT0)
Best quote I've seen today:
"You voted for Obama to prove you’re not a racist. Now, who are you going to vote for to prove you’re not an idiot?”
most recently seen at Michelle Malkin
Posted by: Nash Rambler at October 17, 2010 05:27 PM (g4heK)
Posted by: buzzion at October 17, 2010 05:28 PM (oVQFe)
Posted by: Buck Ofama at October 17, 2010 05:29 PM (I6Tmz)
Posted by: RushBabe at October 17, 2010 05:29 PM (a3Z62)
Posted by: steevy at October 17, 2010 05:31 PM (2qfGL)
FIFY
Posted by: Andy at October 17, 2010 05:32 PM (veZ9n)
Posted by: Bwaney Fwank at October 17, 2010 05:32 PM (X67eL)
Posted by: Hoover at October 17, 2010 05:32 PM (sD7bS)
It's not defamatory if it's true.
Posted by: Dave J. at October 17, 2010 05:33 PM (DCQ0q)
IJust found out a couple of days ago our kid has volunteered for Special Ops training
I remember my Mom being stunned when I volunteered for my specialty. She got used to it but, this was during the "Cold War" and there wasn't any actual combat going on. Bless you and D'oh Boy.
Posted by: Tommy Gunnar at October 17, 2010 05:33 PM (rQTdM)
Posted by: steevy at October 17, 2010 09:31 PM (2qfGL)
Gross
Posted by: dagny at October 17, 2010 05:34 PM (xQIoz)
How even more brave of him, Mrs. D'oh. God bless you both.
#32 It's not defamatory if it's true.
lol, truth is an absolute defense.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at October 17, 2010 05:35 PM (c0A3e)
But you'd explode happy, right?
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at October 17, 2010 05:35 PM (c0A3e)
Bielat: Even though you voted against it.
Frank: But it passed the House.
Bielat: But you voted against it.
Frank: I explained. I voted for it in committee, but I voted against it because it weakened an unrelated provision. But you can't blame me for stopping something when I was in the minority...
Bielat: I don't know. If you voted against it I think I can.
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Beautiful. I'm still watching it, but Frank started fidgeting and being on the defense from the first second. Meanwhile, Bielat's acting like the race is his to lose.
This also shows why Frank gets away with this stuff. He just muddies the water and the press is either too ignorant or sympathetic to call him on it. Put in him a forum where he'll actually be called on what he did and he looks like a fool.
Posted by: AD at October 17, 2010 05:36 PM (XlKZs)
"You voted for Obama to prove you’re not a racist. Now, who are you going to vote for to prove you’re not an idiot?”
Rossi for US Senate.
My new bumper sticker.
Posted by: robtr at October 17, 2010 05:37 PM (fwSHf)
Posted by: ElwinRansom at October 17, 2010 05:38 PM (kd61U)
Posted by: fapo at October 17, 2010 05:38 PM (TcaE8)
It's going to be puddingworthy all on its own.
Posted by: Andy at October 17, 2010 05:39 PM (veZ9n)
Son of a bitch I am proud of you all. I get the most dismal economic reports and what the brainiac bastards are brewing in D.C. on a daily basis. And I have now have hope but it could be the umpteen Trader Joe's Stockyard Oatmeal Stout brews I've been tipping.
But anyway just thought I would let ya'll know.
Posted by: journolist at October 17, 2010 05:40 PM (O/NP5)
I liked the Social Security part.
Marine: You've been in the congress for 30 years and havn't fixed it. Whats your plan.
Not the Marine: My plan is to finish my sentance.
Marine: I would love to see you actually finish a sentance.
Posted by: robtr at October 17, 2010 05:41 PM (fwSHf)
I hope Frank gets struck by lightning.
I can't take his mushmouth bullshit anymore.
I don't hate gay people but seriously?
Gay folks are welcome in my kitchen anytime, just leave those evil cocksuckers out.
Posted by: ErikW at October 17, 2010 05:42 PM (xArXe)
Posted by: steevy at October 17, 2010 05:43 PM (2qfGL)
God what a fucking Blowhard. Anyone want to take a stop watch on how long each person talks?
I'll give this to Frank though, for being a long winded blowhard he can at least talk for more than 10 seconds without saying "um" unlike the president.
Posted by: buzzion at October 17, 2010 05:44 PM (oVQFe)
Morons(ettes) if interested , I'm thinking a Vegas get together post election. I was going to suggest NY or Miami but Vegas is easy access and where a moron can smoke and drink unemcumbered.
If interested, contact Ace and he'll delegate the arrangements.
Posted by: journolist at October 17, 2010 05:46 PM (O/NP5)
Posted by: steevy
That means the Democrats' internals look real crappy. When the abortion card is played, they are in trouble. Trust me, I used to be a Democrat.
Posted by: MrCaniac praying for a Sunday Night Shootout at October 17, 2010 05:48 PM (aaULJ)
I posted this on the tail end of the last thread, but consider this. I think most of it's hogwash, but it's interesting to entertain the premise of the little-used section of the 25th Amendment being used on bammy -- removed for incapacity. So the obvious sentiment (if you're a libtard), would be that you'd want to do it while you still have the majority. What an October surprise that would be!
Posted by: RushBabe at October 17, 2010 05:49 PM (a3Z62)
What do you have against women? Even those in prison shouldn't have to put up with Bawney.
Posted by: PA Cat at October 17, 2010 05:51 PM (FykH7)
Posted by: ElwinRansom at October 17, 2010 09:38 PM (kd61U)
Down 10 points or not, just from watching their demeanor here, you'd assume Bielat considered the race already won and Frank is desperately holding on for dear life.Posted by: AD at October 17, 2010 05:51 PM (XlKZs)
Posted by: MrCaniac praying for a Sunday Night Shootout at October 17, 2010 09:48 PM (aaULJ)
Now that Mr. Wonderful's approval ratings are below the evil ChimpyMcHitler's, I noticed that GWB has suddenly disappeared from local Dem ads. They ARE in trouble
Posted by: Ombudsman at October 17, 2010 05:51 PM (c1oyg)
"When the abortion card is played, they are in trouble. Trust me, I used to be a Democrat."
Agreed, and I say that as a former demon's rat as well. But I suspect Crumo is going to win, and then people will be livid at him, even more so.
Posted by: johnc_recent_EX-dem at October 17, 2010 05:52 PM (ACkhT)
Posted by: Joffen at October 17, 2010 05:52 PM (Mf3m7)
Posted by: chemjeff at October 17, 2010 05:54 PM (E97ku)
Posted by: ziptie at October 17, 2010 05:54 PM (UdYT0)
Posted by: Bawney Fwank at October 17, 2010 05:54 PM (0IR+C)
< grammarNazi
That's sounds more like a non sequitur than something arbitrary. But, yes, the Left cannot discuss issues without changing the subject in order to attack conservatives for some fault, real or imaginary.
The Left really only has three debate tactics: the ad hominem, the strawman, and the invidious comparison (aka BushDidIt.)
< /grammarNazi
Posted by: Garbonzo the Garrulous at October 17, 2010 05:55 PM (23kaI)
Frank "throws out a lot of words, none of them make sense. I'm getting under his skin. It's been a lot of fun," Bielat said.
Heh. The debate linked in this post had already happened when he made those comments.
The moron known as "fluffy" and I were at that rally yesterday. It was well attended, and emcee Howie Carr was hilarious.
Posted by: Andy at October 17, 2010 05:58 PM (veZ9n)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 17, 2010 06:00 PM (UOM48)
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Posted by: HeatherRadish at October 17, 2010 06:05 PM (Vz9lf)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 17, 2010 06:06 PM (UOM48)
Rush Babe
That's a interesting link. My work involves doing psyche evals on inmates or former inmates. Believe me when I tell you the guy is decompensating quicker than Custer after Little Big Horn. He's likely holding it together with a combination of mood altering substances, alcohol being just one of many. I wonder if Moo is really running things behind the scenes.
Posted by: NY Betsy Rose at October 17, 2010 06:07 PM (3yMCG)
Heh. For a palate-cleanser, go to Drudge and behold the evil. And then scroll down on the left and behold......Geezer Bubba.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 17, 2010 10:00 PM (UOM4
And a healthy spit on Condy Rice. Fucking Commie Soviet Bitch.
Posted by: ErikW at October 17, 2010 06:08 PM (xArXe)
this is bs, we are paying into a ss system that was pillaged by libs, and it is in the red, by trillions I imagine!
Posted by: lou at October 17, 2010 06:08 PM (CtAJu)
Posted by: ErikW at October 17, 2010 06:09 PM (xArXe)
Posted by: Ombudsman at October 17, 2010 06:15 PM (c1oyg)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at October 17, 2010 06:21 PM (DPM1U)
You know what? Fuck him. It's OK when Dems twist the truth and flat-out lie in their ads. It's OK when Soros injects millions into American elections. But when Republicans fight back, he gets his pee in a bubble. Thin-skinned bastard.
Posted by: Ombudsman at October 17, 2010 06:21 PM (c1oyg)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 17, 2010 06:25 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 17, 2010 06:29 PM (UOM48)
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oh my Mistor Biewat. Yoor twouser certanwy wook snug. Oh...oh my...
*swoon*
Posted by: Bawny Fwank at October 17, 2010 06:45 PM (wFMDa)
what the hell???
He's now calling the american people, "the empire" aka "the evil empire"!??!
who the hell is this radical freak? I have never in my life heard such nonsense from a president, dem or repub!!
Posted by: johnc_recent_EX-dem at October 17, 2010 06:46 PM (ACkhT)
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Posted by: TimothyCapwel
When he is getting fisted, there is no safe word.
Posted by: MrCaniac= at October 17, 2010 08:28 PM (aaULJ)
Posted by: Rbastid at October 17, 2010 08:42 PM (LLq30)
Such as "Something happened." in the Duke Lacrosse Rape Hoax
http://durhamwonderland.blogspot.com/2007/10/why-civil-suit-matters.html
Posted by: Paul L. at October 18, 2010 03:45 AM (CmndS)
Posted by: David at October 18, 2010 03:49 AM (gOiEK)
Between the D'ohSon and Bwahney Fwank, we've pretty much covered the entire range of behavior from being a worthless sack of crap to being a stand-up kid that any of us would be proud to have as our own.
Glad to see that Jane's raised a goodun
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