February 12, 2010
— Ace A Texas state senator, Dan Patrick, tweets:
Medina digs hole deeper-says today she has questions how policemen got out and not the fireman on 9/11 She just can't let this go
Someone connected in politics down there tells me she's a Paulbot, as most of you heard, but that she didn't run expecting to get much traction -- her plan, he guesses, is to get enough name ID that she can take over the state party in the summer, all for the glory of (Doctor) Ron Paul.
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Could the reason be that the firemen had air tanks, fire/heat-resistant clothing and a mission (and training) to explicitly go into burning buildings to rescue people?
Posted by: Arbalest at February 12, 2010 04:00 PM (JnWYr)
Posted by: 18-1 at February 12, 2010 04:01 PM (bgcml)
Posted by: Jim in San Diego at February 12, 2010 04:01 PM (F09Uo)
Posted by: Rosie O'Donnell at February 12, 2010 04:01 PM (jlvw3)
Posted by: conscious, but incoherent at February 12, 2010 04:02 PM (Vu6sl)
Google it.
Posted by: Rosie O'Donnell at February 12, 2010 08:01 PM (jlvw3)
And you've never passed up a Denny's Buffet
Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Meteors, and Buckets of Scorn for the Left at February 12, 2010 04:06 PM (erIg9)
Posted by: Winston Smith, Records Department of the Ministry of Truth at February 12, 2010 04:08 PM (kGngs)
Posted by: another Paultard at February 12, 2010 04:10 PM (4iIhs)
Posted by: AE at February 12, 2010 04:11 PM (kSfPT)
The fireman were dead and planted in the Towers long before the building was imploded. She's an amateur.
Posted by: Dr. Spank at February 12, 2010 04:11 PM (0FiCa)
Posted by: rawmuse at February 12, 2010 04:12 PM (3jHhs)
Posted by: rawmuse at February 12, 2010 08:12 PM (3jHhs)
no way, I don't want that kind of stupid gettin on my mallet.
Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Meteors, and Buckets of Scorn for the Left at February 12, 2010 04:13 PM (erIg9)
Posted by: Luap Nor? at February 12, 2010 04:13 PM (wgLRl)
Posted by: Courage? We Hardly Knew Ye at February 12, 2010 04:15 PM (4/RPk)
IMHO, that was a baaaad sign. I'd say I'm shocked, but I'd be lying.
Posted by: Sekhmet at February 12, 2010 04:18 PM (SLnH7)
Posted by: Area 51 at February 12, 2010 04:18 PM (wgLRl)
Don't you love questions that lead to a sooper secret conspiracy involving ... um ... the entire NYPD?
I thought South Park put a stake through the heart of this idiotic conspiracy. Follow the link to the WWII version.
Posted by: Cincinnatus at February 12, 2010 04:19 PM (euuyg)
Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at February 12, 2010 04:20 PM (wgLRl)
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at February 12, 2010 04:22 PM (sZ+lP)
Someone should pound her in to the ground with a large rubber mallet and use her for a light fixture. At least we get some value for the tax dollars that way.
noooooooooooo cooties
Posted by: The Great Satan's Ghost at February 12, 2010 04:25 PM (4lMBe)
Posted by: John Smith at February 12, 2010 04:29 PM (8zQxF)
TRUTHBLIMP.COM
Or she could fly a "Piece Blimp"--she must have smoked one before she made all these idiotic comments!
Posted by: runningrn at February 12, 2010 04:30 PM (CfmlF)
Posted by: Countrysquire at February 12, 2010 04:30 PM (0HdbA)
Posted by: buzz at February 12, 2010 04:32 PM (tc01d)
As a long time conservative I see no point in having a "litmus test" for the party, if you say you're conservative that is good enough for me!
uhhh we ARE talking 9/11 truthers here not conservative litmus tests
Posted by: The Great Satan's Ghost at February 12, 2010 04:35 PM (4lMBe)
Posted by: Spanish Inquisition at February 12, 2010 04:42 PM (Hh13R)
Posted by: The High-Value Interrogation Group at February 12, 2010 04:44 PM (Hh13R)
I dunno. Perot?
Posted by: Reiver at February 12, 2010 04:48 PM (zFNYs)
Posted by: The Great Satan's Ghost at February 12, 2010 04:49 PM (4lMBe)
Posted by: AE at February 12, 2010 08:11 PM (kSfPT)
She didn't just use it - she yanked on it begging for more.
Posted by: tdpwells at February 12, 2010 04:51 PM (Ei3oZ)
Posted by: Warm Mountain at February 12, 2010 04:58 PM (HLaNR)
Posted by: Trig Palin at February 12, 2010 05:01 PM (1OVcE)
Posted by: Peter at February 12, 2010 05:06 PM (iXqYj)
The letters to the editor are in the Victoria Advocate. We're about 60 miles from Medina's hometown.
Posted by: Warm Mountain at February 12, 2010 05:08 PM (HLaNR)
Posted by: Countrysquire at February 12, 2010 05:11 PM (0HdbA)
Posted by: Warm Mountain at February 12, 2010 05:12 PM (HLaNR)
You want some a super-sized bowl of crazy, check out what one of the DEM candidates for governor was spouting off today. Not only is Farouk Shami a 9/11 and JFK conspiracy nut, he's a racist, too.
Posted by: Dang Straights at February 12, 2010 05:17 PM (cnH+F)
Posted by: nogooddeed at February 12, 2010 05:22 PM (5heYe)
Debra Medina's principal adviser is Miss Cleo of the Psychic Friends Network. Most of the whacked out ideas came from Miss Cleo, but she also consulted with Governor Howard Dean, so there is a great deal of confusion as to who's the crazy, Miss Cleo or Howard Dean?
Posted by: Fish at February 12, 2010 05:24 PM (M5t+h)
all for the glory of (Doctor) Ron Paul
Ace, from now on will you call me "Doctor Brewer," since I have my doctorate in law. Thanks, man. It's so imporant to be called "doctor." Just ask my ex. Hell, just ask any M.D. Brush their hair aside and "doctor" is tattooed on their foreheads. The day they graduate from med school, they walk off the platform and right into the tattoo parlor. Because everyone has to know they are "doctors."
Posted by: rdbrewer at February 12, 2010 05:31 PM (3IT4k)
How in the heck does that guy keep getting re-elected? I am a Texan, and I admire an independent spirit, but being batshit crazy doesn't make you independent, just lonely!
Well isn't it sort of a situation like Murtha? The guy brings home all the pork he possibly can doesn't he? Oh sure when the bill comes up for vote he votes against it, but he's still got all his crap in it already.
Posted by: buzzion at February 12, 2010 05:40 PM (oVQFe)
Posted by: jbarntt at February 12, 2010 05:43 PM (Qx4db)
Posted by: TexBob at February 12, 2010 05:56 PM (2jp4I)
One more thing. You might not want to see Rick Perry again (I'm voting for him anyway), but there's NO WAY any of us should let that eminent domain abuser Bill White a thousand feet from the Governor's Mansion.
Posted by: newton at February 12, 2010 05:59 PM (q5ZJk)
Posted by: gus at February 12, 2010 05:59 PM (MaqIC)
Posted by: William R at February 12, 2010 06:01 PM (C1Trn)
Lemonparty?
Naah, J/K. Too much Encyclopedia Dramatica. Oh, and speaking of lulz, how about a debate between Medina and Shami?
Posted by: Sekhmet at February 12, 2010 06:11 PM (SLnH7)
Posted by: dorkafork at February 12, 2010 06:12 PM (o8YQi)
Posted by: Hatchet Five at February 12, 2010 06:17 PM (DTffv)
FIFY. seen plenty of your kind of nutcase back when I did campaign work. You've been involved only because the party can't make you go away.
Posted by: Hatchet Five at February 12, 2010 06:19 PM (DTffv)
The Ron Paul Forums.
Color me shocked.
Posted by: Xoxotl at February 12, 2010 06:29 PM (rDJc0)
Posted by: RINO in Name Only at February 12, 2010 06:48 PM (1OVcE)
Few love Perry, even though he's good at his job right now and the best candidate to keep it.
If this was a hatchet job by Perry, then THANK YOU Perry. We need to expose Ron Paul assholes and kick their asses out of Texas government.
Posted by: ducks Under Oklahoma ASCEND at February 12, 2010 06:50 PM (dUOK+)
Multiple epic fails. But hey, what are you going to do? Vote for Perry? My standards may be low but I ain't going there.
Posted by: John Galt at February 12, 2010 06:54 PM (Ylv1H)
Posted by: Uncle Jed at February 12, 2010 07:11 PM (eKgqT)
Posted by: Michael at February 12, 2010 07:21 PM (y2Vxr)
Oh ok. Let's not question the government about this.
Even though they lie about everything else, on a daily basis, they are surely telling the entire truth about 9/11.
Posted by: Rip at February 12, 2010 07:23 PM (xD4TS)
Posted by: Chris R at February 12, 2010 07:26 PM (AO4qz)
Posted by: Chris R at February 12, 2010 07:28 PM (AO4qz)
Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at February 12, 2010 08:20 PM (wgLRl)
Think: Grassy knoll and alien cadavers stashed at Roswell....
Posted by: hope 'n' spare change at February 12, 2010 07:35 PM (3DrMn)
Posted by: RINO in Name Only at February 12, 2010 07:42 PM (1OVcE)
The question I have to ask is whether one form of the disease is worse than the other.
I can't make up my mind. That leaves Perry as the winner over Medina, on the grounds of experience.
Posted by: Zimriel at February 12, 2010 07:56 PM (sVzRC)
Posted by: Noah at February 12, 2010 08:09 PM (mhD2v)
Posted by: RINO in Name Only at February 12, 2010 08:11 PM (1OVcE)
Posted by: dorkafork at February 12, 2010 08:11 PM (o8YQi)
hee hee. Talk about trolling.
I can see why some people get confused over 9/11. There is so much conflicting info put out by people who really believe it, right or wrong. Some people genuinely don't know what to think the same way they don't know what to think about who started the stock market collapse. That uncertainty over what to believe makes the sheep and other sorts of idiots nervous.
People who can't make decisions like that don't need to be governor of Texas. I want a governor of Texas with the guts to tell Washington to fuck off if needed and the brains to make it work. A borderline secessionist would be nice.
Posted by: SGT Dan at February 12, 2010 08:36 PM (KLFGv)
Posted by: lonestar at February 12, 2010 09:00 PM (+akm6)
The same is true of Intelligent Design to the extent Perry takes it. In his case I vote "cynic".
Seriously, it's not worth arguing with me over. You either accept it or you don't, and join the nuts and cynics in my estimation.
Just like you'd treat me if I started with the 9/11 bullshit.
Posted by: Zimriel at February 12, 2010 09:32 PM (sVzRC)
Posted by: RINO in Name Only at February 12, 2010 10:05 PM (HUdxK)
Posted by: Chris R at February 12, 2010 11:28 PM (AO4qz)
Ace Ace Ace.....
It's the Anti semitism patrol
Posted by: William R at February 12, 2010 10:41 PM (C1Trn)
If nothing else, this whole Medina implosion has thrown a great deal of light on her supporters. It's amazing to see the twisting and shaping going on by local radio folks: The question's unfair, unclear, sexist, racist, ist-ist; Glenn's a jerk so Medina's answer doesn't count, she revised and extended her remarks eventually, fire doesn't melt steel, and thermite was detected at the scene but was hushed up by the Grays, etc.
Frankly, I'm still weighing Medina against Perry/Hutchison. Not because I don't think her stated position is batshit crazy and borderline psychotic, but because I loathe Perry/Hutchison that much. If Puppy Stranglers, Inc. is solid on taxes, immigration, and states' rights, well... just how many puppies are we talking about? Are they strangled to death, or just until they pass out? Are kittens involved?
Ultimately, my emotions will catch up with my thoughts, and I'll likely either abstain or find some other 3rd party to vote for. You can't plan around crazy. But man, is this disappointing.
Posted by: Cautiously Pessimistic at February 13, 2010 04:44 AM (pZEar)
Posted by: Barry Soetoro (D-King OF The World!!) at February 13, 2010 05:11 AM (jXu+0)
Posted by: Dave in Texas at February 13, 2010 05:39 AM (Wh0W+)
It's her message that has people moving towards her kid.
Posted by: William R at February 13, 2010 05:53 AM (C1Trn)
Posted by: C*d*rf*rd at February 13, 2010 06:43 AM (f7A+e)
mesa told me she was a paulbot weeks ago (he lives in Paul's district now, he's another Yankee refugee we welcomed). I wasn't paying any attention to her because I doubted she'd get any steam. I'd say her brief rise was more a testament to Kay's weakness than Medina's strength.
Posted by: Dave in Texas at February 13, 2010 09:39 AM (Wh0W+)
Yeah, but given the vitriol of the campaign, and the way baseless (as well as based) accusations are thrown around so lightly, I doubt I would have put any stock in the info unless she actually commented on the issue herself.
Posted by: Cautiously Pessimistic at February 13, 2010 06:59 AM (pZEar)
Posted by: anorm at February 13, 2010 07:00 AM (rtqxp)
Posted by: Charles Johnson at February 13, 2010 07:04 AM (mka2b)
Posted by: William Retard at February 13, 2010 07:11 AM (f7A+e)
If I remember correctly, when I voted in '08, Paul was the only option. Not even a Dem challenger.
Posted by: prolix at February 13, 2010 07:13 AM (cNCPh)
Posted by: William Retard at February 13, 2010 07:21 AM (f7A+e)
Posted by: William Retard at February 13, 2010 07:22 AM (f7A+e)
Posted by: John Smith
Bullcrap.
That kind of naivete is why the Libertarian Party is infested with 9-11 truthers, common law nuts, conspiracy freaks, and other lunatics. Loons will lie through their teeth as required in order to get a bully pulpit to expound on their bee-bonnet.
They are like Internet mission posters ... their conspiracy message is far more important to them than stuff like being truthful or helping the political party or group they are parasitizing.
They should be identified as loons and drummed out by any political movement that wants to be perceived as serious. You absolutely HAVE to purge the nutcases.
Posted by: Kristopher at February 13, 2010 07:48 AM (kCEOg)
Posted by: ms. docweasel at February 13, 2010 07:57 AM (kgwdA)
Kid didn't you get the memo from team Sarah. The word Retard is off limits. It's as bad as the N word!!!! lol
Posted by: William R at February 13, 2010 09:14 AM (C1Trn)
Most Americans think that our federal government has not been completely honest in providing all information regarding how the 9/11/01 terrorist attacks WERE ALLOWED to take place--even if simply by negligence of duty that the Intelligence Community failed to communicate properly with each other and with the Chief Executive, Pres.Bush. I doubt they knew how successfully destructive the Islamofascist Jihad attack would be, but the possiblity obviously was real. Clinton's left-over administrators in Bush's new administration allowed this to happen, already knowing it would, and not making that case to George W. Bush in the Oval Office. We have the damned DHS as a result, not of 9/11, but of the FAILURE TO COMMUNICATE that enabled the 9/11 terrorism. And if it wasn't obviously unconstitutional then, the DHS is now mutated into the fascist bureaucracy that American citizens should not tolerate.
ACE, you are full of shit. Are you saying that every significant player in our federal government did everything in their power to prevent 9/11 from happening?! You Lie.
Moments after Beck interviewed Medina, the next radio host on KLIF Texas talk radio that runs both Beck and Fred Thompson's shows, took calls from Texans. The host posed the same statement that you all have, that this questioning of our government is only done by kooks and loons, certainly not by respectably "sophisticated" neoconservative American citizen insiders pulling the career politician Republican strings. Callers unanimously agreed with Debra Medina rather than Glenn Beck's diatribe, and disagree with you, saying that they will still vote for Medina.
Reality bites when you actually STUDY TEXAS POLITICAL ISSUES and take note of the Rick Perry PAC government corruption in the Republican Party. Intelligent and independent conservatives along with thoughtful Republicans do NOT want to continue to pay rising property taxes and exorbitant fees on toll roads to foreign-owned companies, and want the border secured, and want Texas Drivers licenses to include citizenship and be used for voter identification. Those issues are what differentiate Medina from the career kickback politicians Perry and Hutchison. The Bilderberger Rick Perry has had 10 years already to provide transparency in the TxDOT but refuses because that would expose his corruption. Rick Perry has had 10 years to utilize the Constitution to retain Texan taxes rather than submitting all to the Federals to return much less in turn. He's supposed to be the experienced governor, having 10 years on the job; unfortunately his experience is in corruption for his own personal benefit at the expense of tax payers and AT THE EXPENSE OF OUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS.
Ace of Spades is sabotaging a responsible, independent Texas conservative who brings to the table the opportunity to rescind corruption from the Governor for Texans.
Aside from his kickback arrangement with Merck to force vaccination of all girls though long term effects are completely not yet known and short term death/stroke/paralysis is already known a side effect of Gardasil, Rick Perry already accomplished with the Fundamentalist Mormons in Eldorado what Ann Richards allowed Clinton's federal forces to try to accomplish outside of Waco to the Branch Davidians on Mt. Carmel. Given the Branch Davidian experience as precedence, Perry is fortunate that the fundamentalist "Saints" did not refuse to cooperate with his excessive and ill founded law enforcement arrangements. Perry would direct law enforcement without legitimate complaint against American citizens. Yet our southern border is not secured, and horrible massacres and kidnappings occur with high crime from illegal aliens in state. And so far as providing leadership in our state legislature, it was during Perry's terms that the Democrats (minority party) bolted while in session, leaving no quorum to vote during our biennial legislative sessions. And Perry has failed to negotiate the passing of legislation requiring state photo voter identification, allowing the bill each session to never be brought up for vote though it had all the votes to pass it.
You want to intelligently address Texas politics? Do your damned homework because this effort is fabricated. As it is here, you're just another paid marionette.
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Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Meteors, and Buckets of Scorn for the Left at February 12, 2010 03:59 PM (erIg9)