1 Hey, I'd vote for her, too, but I wouldn't be happy about it.  And no amount of name-calling is going to make me pretend she's anything other than a really weak candidate. 

2 Yes and people should stop promoting the MSM spin about her warts.
Nobody's fucking perfect and she's better than anything that the opposition can put forward .

3 She's only weak if people keep promoting that  "She's Weak"spin

4 I support the wic-con.

5

What purge?

Stop making shit up.

6 2: Warts? I thought we were done with the witch thing?

7 Chris Coons is Harry Reid's "Pet". Nuff said. As far as Christine? I'd hit it. I'd also hit Harry Reid, but in a different way IYKWIMAITYD

8

So, if that's what you believe, and if you haven't been pushing the Bill Maher clips, then why did you take what Legal Insurrection said personally?

I didn't see your name anywhere in the article.  Why did you decide he was talking about you?

9 Calling for the heads of Snowe and Brown I feel is Gabriel's point, you vaginally-shaped-flower-penis poster. Not an insult -I just I got your clever name.

10 The purge runs both ways.  It's incumbent on both the RINO-hunters and the big-tent/electability pragmatists to stop pissing and moaning at each other and start pissing and moaning at the Democrats.  Put off the internal feud until November 3rd and until then, focus on getting the current crop of Republican candidates -- the Kirks and the O'Donnells alike -- into office so that we can get the Democrat boot off our necks.

11 The sour grapes shit has to stop, btw. Castle should suck it up and endorse her. Lisa "My Daddy gave me this job" should just go the fuck away

12 Now you owed us an afternoon football thread for this Delaware post.  You must atone!

13

"Put off the internal feud until November 3rd and until then, focus on getting the current crop of Republican candidates -- the Kirks and the O'Donnells alike -- into office so that we can get the Democrat boot off our necks."

Careful, that's exactly what Legal Insurrection said, and Gabe called him a hypocrite and a bunch of other shit.

14 Hot Air was just down for 5 minutes.  Ace, what did you just do?

15
oh my, Breff Favre is 0-2

16 If the conservatives are getting behind Kirk without much ballyhooing now (as it seems like is happening in polling), there should be the same from moderates getting behind O'Donnell. Our real enemies are the monsters in the Democratic Congress. Lying on a few accomplishments makes Kirk look bad. FUCKING OVER YOUR KIDS' ECONOMIC SUCCESS is evil. Having problems paying bills make you look bad. HAVING PROBLEMS PAYING OTHER PEOPLES BILLS BY SPENDING THEIR MONEY ON STUDIES IN AFRICA ON DICK-WASHING IS EVIL. Making catty remarks about your opponents hair is silly. OPENLY WAGING WAR ON A STATE OVER AN IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT MEASURE IS TYRANNICAL. The fact that there are people in Illinois, Delaware, California, and elsewhere who claim to be Republicans, who claim to be conservatives, but can't tell the fucking difference between "looks bad" and "fucking evil" is just sad.

17 this is what i just wrote at riehl's place, 'cuz there's a blogger war going on and part of the discussion is about whose "rules of engagement" (i.e., Buckley, Limbaugh, Lombardi)  might be best employed in these charged times:

"Conservative" flame war?  lol!  Okay, whatever -- it's certainly the height of entertainment to a political junkie like me.  We the people are in the trenches of a bigger war and are fighting desperately to reign in the policy excesses of decades and to return this country to some lean, mean semblance of what is stood for before all the "social engineering" and "interpretations" began.  First principles.  Non-statism.  Etc.  I don't need to list them for this readership. 

Clearly, this political moment is when we have a chance to jam our feet in the crack in the doorway and open it wider. Apparently it bears repeating that, for the Left, the ends ALWAYS justify the means.  Shall we roll over, then? 

The rules of Limbaugh & Lombardi?  Fine -- put them to work as best we can, maybe even toughen/tighten them up somewhat.  All the bemoaning of "purity tests"?  pffffffffft -- time to roll up our sleeves and get our hands dirty.  In the last few months, we have pulled off genuine upsets that have the Left's and D.C.'s heads spinning -- get behind these candidates. 

Cry havoc, conservatives, and let loose the dogs of WAR.

 

18

"oh my, Breff Favre is 0-2"

Yeah, that's bad enough, but so are my Vikings....

19 She IS a weak candidate.   however, I would vote for her, considering the (literal) commie she's up against.  I would have much preferred that the Republican party had selected a better non-RINO candidate, but that horse has left the barn

20 Who's Christine O'Donnell?

21 @11

what stuiec said

22 21 She IS a weak candidate.  

Shhh... don't say that.  If we all close our eyes and think about rainbows and lollipops she's become Zombie Reagan! 

23
Bengals gonna beat the Crows?

24 She sure is cocky.

25 We support sucking ass!

26

Gabriel - the pillar to post bull shit you are peddling is quite fascinating.  And should be feautred in Popular Mechanics under 'How to Shiv and Screw a Thread by a Dolt turning Left.'     

You folks are generating gale force winds blowing yourselves' own sails of feigned intellectualism over the C'OD matter.

I am telling you that with your posts memorialized and with the momentum shifting right away from you . . . you will have a dubious challenge in trying to retrofit your C'OD Shandenfreude - post facto C'OD and the reality November will bring.     

Stay right or don't write at all. We're getting a wee bit tired of the schizoid play you are shilling. 

You should have been supporting C'OD from the outset.

 

27 I didn't see your name anywhere in the article.  Why did you decide he was talking about you?

This is precious. Check the commenters. They assumed he was talking about us here at the HQ, Allah, Patterico, others. And the commenters here directed exactly the same accusation: that we were "dribbling out" anti-O'Donnell pieces for traffic. More than that, the traffic-bait accusation has already flown back and forth a few times.

28 Who's Christine O'Donnell?

Beats me.

29 ALL ABOARD THE CRAZY TRAIN!

30

I find a purge, once or twice a month, is helpful in keeping my weight centered.

You republicans are not allowed to purge because I haven't given my permission yet.

And you're ugly.

31

Calling people morons is a good way to turn the page......Not

 

I still wish to purge the party of Snowe.  She is solidly the most liberal Republican out there. She is still the most public anti conservative on TV. And she still likes to promote the "history making" of her votes with Obama.

 

On the other hand, I like Scott Brown and can definately tolerate Susan Collins. Collins is softer and less rigid then Snowe. She also lies less then Snowe when disagreeing with conservatives. And I personally think Brown is simply a pragmatist who would vote like an Alabaman if he lived in Alabama. He has repeatedly passed on attacking conservatives so far. I still like Brown.

 

Castle and Snowe are not Collins and Brown IMO.

32

"This is precious. Check the commenters."

So, now, he's responsible for what the commenters say?  Following that rule, you keep calling yourself a cocksucker, a piece of shit, a traitor, and a lot of other stuff -- after all, check the commenters!

33 fuck that, she's a witch, a bowler and eats cheeseburgers. No way am I backing her.

34 Btw, don't you love how an O'Donnell tape from ten years ago get's it's own post here, but Coons driving a county into bankruptcy only gets a sidebar mention? The bullshit is strong with Castle buttboys.

35

very sharp and funny response from O'Donnell to the whole "witch" nonsense

"Christine O’Donnell: ‘I Will Take My Broom To Washington’"

my wife and I are laughing about this, this was a very clever response by O'Donnell

 

36 Posted by: journolist at September 19, 2010 04:07 PM (O/NP5)

Must feel like a really big man, talking so tough on the internet like that.

37 ALL ABOARD THE CRAZY TRAIN!

Posted by: Jeff B. at September 19, 2010 04:08 PM (NjYDy)

Toot! Toot!

38 The Dems were SO taken by Black Magic not long ago.

39

make this race about Coons

You are sooooo raaaacist!

40
The best thing for Christine to do is to laugh off all this picayune stuff.
Only if she takes it seriously, it will hurt her.

41 fuck that, she's a witch, a bowler and eats cheeseburgers. No way am I backing her.

Posted by: robtr at September 19, 2010 04:09 PM (fwSHf)

We can deal with the witchery and even the cheeseburgers, but the bowling?  An unpardonable sin. TTFW.  Tooo Tacky For Words. Why, I"ll bet she uses the wrong fork!  Unacceptable.

42 fuck that, she's a witch, a bowler and eats cheeseburgers. No way am I backing her.

Posted by: robtr at September 19, 2010 04:09 PM (fwSHf)

What?  Cheeseburgers?  What have we wrought?

43 She IS a weak candidate.   however, I would vote for her, considering the (literal) commie she's up against.  I would have much preferred that the Republican party had selected a better non-RINO candidate, but that horse has left the barn

Posted by: Inner circles of hell at September 19, 2010 04:03 PM (c1oyg)

Honestly saying she's a weak candidate is helpful IF you're willing to look at her weaknesses and suggest ways for her to shore them up.  Because you're quite right: the opportunity to back the other horse is gone now.

44 Gabriel - the pillar to post bull shit you are peddling is quite fascinating.  And should be feautred in Popular Mechanics under 'How to Shiv and Screw a Thread by a Dolt turning Left.'

You realize they're holding stuff back, right?  There's been other stuff beyond this on Politico and on other places on the web the last few days that hasn't been posted here.

If there's dirt on the Republicans, I like knowing about it; otherwise, I would be walking around with blinders on.  In that case, I would be blindly supporting Republicans and we'd look like fools when we get into debates with Democrats to support our side and get blindsided by stuff we didn't even know about.  That's the MO of Democrats and is why they look foolish when they come trolling here.

45 Pre-primary O'Donnell supporters-you won. 
There are still some of you who act as if we aren't all on the same team, and don't have the same goals.  That was never true.  We just had different views on the best way to achieve success.  It was never about us wanting a RINO because we liked him.  You don't need to explain his ideological flaws as if we didn't understand them.  We did. 

Be gracious in victory.  You'll make more of the right friends and make the Dems job that much harder.  Again, we're all on the same team.  Vince Lombardi would have crushed someone who acted against the team's best interests.

46

What?  Cheeseburgers?  What have we wrought?

Posted by: Editor at September 19, 2010 04:12 PM (YX6i/)

No Wagu beef in that burger either, just plain cow.

47

I wish Rove would go after the self avowed Coons more than he does after O'Donnell.  Yes, she may be a weaker candidate, but she is not the target, Pet Coons is.  If he cannot do this, he needs to shup up.

And if he won't shut up, O'Donnell needs to use that Rove doesn't like as a plus for her campaign.  Most independents don't like Rove anyways.

48

"She IS a weak candidate."  

And Castle was a Democrat-Lite.

But hey, two weeks ago Rove and the GOP told us that the Senate was a bridge too far this mid-term anyway didn't they?

Well yes. yes they did.

49

No Wagu beef in that burger either, just plain cow.

Posted by: robtr at September 19, 2010 04:13 PM (fwSHf)

Oh lawdy!  I have the vapors...

50

Killing off that jug-eared RINO fuck was worth it.

DeMint/Wicca 2012!

51

With Eye of Newt and Tail of Coons

Tongue of Lizard and Cash of Rubes

The Cauldron Bubbles with Potion's Brew

To Stop your Faping and fill Biden's Shoes!

 

52

Cheeseburger, did someone say Cheeseburger?

Will there be french fries with that?

53

I still wish to purge the party of Snowe.  She is solidly the most liberal Republican out there. She is still the most public anti conservative on TV. And she still likes to promote the "history making" of her votes with Obama.

Posted by: Keven at September 19, 2010 04:09 PM (4uSLl)

This came up in another thread a night or two ago.  Who in Maine can be ready to run against Snowe in 2012?  If we want her gone, she needs to be primaried out in less than 2 years, which means it's time to identify and rally around a candidate now.

54

Cheeseburger, did someone say Cheeseburger?

Will there be french fries with that?

Posted by: Meghan McCain at September 19, 2010 04:16 PM (x29Dx)

No fries - only chips.

55 Seriously, for those who complain about the amount of anti-O'Donnell coverage here at Ace of Spades, trust me: we could have really gone to town on this one.  There is a lot more O'Donnell dirt out there on mainstream sites (like Politico and the NY Times and places that, like it or not, Delawareans are exposed to) that hasn't been mentioned or rehashed on this site since the primary. 

But how in the hell are we supposed to ignore this witchcraft story?  It's weird, it's making headlines *everywhere*, and dodging just seems like pure shillery.  This may be a moronblog, but it's a moronblog that tries to maintain at least some semblance of integrity (as opposed to the "Baghdad Bob" boosterism of the Ezra Kleins of the world). 

It's the accusations of hypocrisy and (of all things!) trolling for blog hits that *really* makes the Legal Insurrection post so annoying.

56

_{The Dems were SO taken by Black Magic not long ago.}

You're on our list, buddy!

57

 After tomorrow, it's not about pragmatism or purity.

Except the "true conservatives" sure did make it about purity afterwards.

The only questions that matter: "do you vote for an (R) or do you vote for a (D) or do you sit out and let the (D) win?" No names in there. It doesn't really matter who the (R) is or who the (D) is.

Except it does matter.

If I was a Delaware voter, I'd just stay home.  I don't want Coons to win; but I don't think she deserves to win either.  Considering I expect Coons to win pretty easily anyway, there's not much of a moral dilemma here.

58 GAWDDANG HASSELBECK!!!!

59 Vick actually looks pretty good.

60

_{GAWDDANG HASSELBECK!!!!}

For the last fucking time - I'm NOT sending you topless photos!

61 RINO season is over in Delaware.

It's Coons season now!

62 Seriously, let it go. Primaries are about friendly fire.

63

No Wagu beef in that burger either, just plain cow.

Posted by: robtr at September 19, 2010 04:13 PM (fwSHf)

Oh lawdy!  I have the vapors...

Posted by: Editor at September 19, 2010 04:15 PM (YX6i/)

And can you believe that she didn't have the good taste to have a pizza chef flown in from Chicago?  Probably ordered from.. *shudder* ... Domino's.

64 Gabe, the fact that you felt you had to make this post proves you have some idea of how pissed off a lot of commenters have gotten here.  Drew, particularly, seems to have a vested interest in O'Donnell's defeat purely for "I told you so" purposes.

I would've supported Castle, were I in DE, for the pragmatic reasons stated.  But the treatment of O'Donnell's supporters prior to the primary was grotesque, and since the primary that animus has only increased.

"Quit being fucking assholes" is usually pretty good advice in any endeavor.

65

Looking on the bright side, my fantasy Bench did pretty well, so far.

66 As far as I'm concerned the wic-con moment was endearing.  Aqua Buddha says "youth is stupid."

67

Killing off that jug-eared RINO fuck was worth it.

There was indeed intrinsic value in Castle's loss. Just look at Castle's reaction, for instance.

And look who else reared her ugly head. Olympia Snowe. Castle's loss shook up the party and moved those bipartisan dunces a little to the right, I reckon.

68

Drew, particularly, seems to have a vested interest in O'Donnell's defeat purely for "I told you so" purposes.

. . .

"Quit being fucking assholes" is usually pretty good advice in any endeavor.

What is wrong with this picture?

69 Oh yes my bitches There will be bragging Oh yes there will be

70 @ 43 country club republicans:  We can deal with the witchery and even the cheeseburgers, but the bowling?  An unpardonable sin. TTFW.  Tooo Tacky For Words. Why, I"ll bet she uses the wrong fork!  Unacceptable.

Here, here!

71 Aqua Buddha is Wise.

72 63 RINO season is over in Delaware.

It's Coons season now!

Posted by: logprof at September 19, 2010 04:20 PM (BP6Z1)

Hi logprof.

O/T as hell, but in answer to your question last night, there are Temples in both GF and Fargo, and I belong to the one in GF, even though I work way the hell over in the western part of the state.

73

But how in the hell are we supposed to ignore this witchcraft story?

Maybe like I do, you laugh at the fucking fucktards that scream OMG she dabbled in witchcraft when she was a teenager!

Are we really going back to research everything everyone did in their teens now as an indication of how they would govern in their 40's?

If so, I don't want to play that game. If I remember correctly we have a president that smoked pot and snorted cocaine in his teens. The one before that was an alcoholic until he turned 40.

But OMG, O' Donnell dabbled in witchcraft!

74 s far as I'm concerned the wic-con moment was endearing.  Aqua Buddha says "youth is stupid."

Posted by: rdbrewer at September 19, 2010 04:22 PM (Q43FA)

I never understood why would anyone right of center go on Maher's show anyway.  You know it's going to be a hatchet job going in. They sit you in the "wingnut chair" and have at you.   Why give that asshole any ammunition?

75

Except it does matter.

If I was a Delaware voter, I'd just stay home.  I don't want Coons to win; but I don't think she deserves to win either.  Considering I expect Coons to win pretty easily anyway, there's not much of a moral dilemma here.

Posted by: Vyceroy at September 19, 2010 04:18 PM (X763u)

Aaaaand here's the losing strategy laid bare.

Better a Christine O'Donnell in the Senate than two more years of Reid aiding and abetting the Obama rape of the American taxpayer.  At least, in my opinion: you may think that Majority Leader Reid is an acceptable price to pay to punish the Delaware GOP primary voters for their uppity insolence.

76

"if the O'Donnell folks could call off their purge"

WTF???

I not sure what Gabriel is alluding to.  Is it Rove and Chucky K that attacked O'Donnell after the primary? And how about RINO Murkcowsci  running in AK?  It is the same sort of thing when moderates in the Senate are worried about their future in the Senate, when the Senate is FULL of moderates.

I am all for unity.  I am supporting my candidate for Congress although I didn't support him in the primary.

The question is whether moderates will support conservatives.  If they just say "yes", and stop repeating, e.g., Maher's clips, then there would be no argument. 

In other words, if moderates just stick to the game plan and support the Republican primary winners, this conversation would drop and we could get back to business--throwing the Marxists out-of-office.

77

O/T as hell, but in answer to your question last night, there are Temples in both GF and Fargo, and I belong to the one in GF, even though I work way the hell over in the western part of the state.

Posted by: TexasJew at September 19, 2010 04:24 PM (bJI8I)

--Considering the whole lotta nothing in the other direction, Grand Forks is as close as you can get (unless there's one in Bismarck).

78

@ 43 country club republicans:  We can deal with the witchery and even the cheeseburgers, but the bowling?  An unpardonable sin. TTFW.  Tooo Tacky For Words. Why, I"ll bet she uses the wrong fork!  Unacceptable.

Yes, what would Peggy Noonan do?  Peggy don't bowl.

79

"Considering I expect Coons to win pretty easily anyway, there's not much of a moral dilemma here."

And considering you're not a Delaware voter, there's even less of one.

The only moral dilemma comes in how often and how vociferously non-Delawarean Republicans attempt to influence Delaware voters to vote against O'Donnell, or to stay home.  So really, neither you, nor I, nor any other non-Delaware poster at HA or LI or AoS, face any sort of moral dilemma.  The actual Delaware voters don't care what we think. 

Rove, Krauthammer, and others with actual national influence do face a moral dilemma.  We'll see how they respond.

 

80 Once again what we should be seeing:

Jobs - Believes jobs are created when businesses are freed from endless taxes and bureaucratic red tape.

Security - Believes terrorism is an act of war requiring the full force of our intelligence and military resources rather than granting terrorists precious Constitutional rights and outsourcing our foreign policy to the U.N.

Debt - Believes heaping trillions in debt on the backs of our grandchildren is immoral and that Congress is elected to make the hard choices to preserve our nationÂ’s future prosperity.

Taxes - Will fight to remove the crushing tax burden faced by American families and businesses and dramatically simplify the tax code.

Life - Strongly believes in protecting the sanctity of life at ALL stages.

Energy - Supports a market-based approach to energy solutions that will keep competition high and energy prices low.

Values - Believes our country was founded on core values of faith, family and freedom and will fight to defend those values. Will always fight for maximum choice for parents about where to educate their kids, including private, parochial and charter schools or in the home.

Spending - Believes unrestrained government spending is eroding our freedom, destroying our economy and ceding our sovereignty to foreign debt- holders like China.

Accountability - Denounces corrupt pork-barrel politics, including earmarks, and will fight for increased transparency and performance information for every Federal program.

Healthcare - Believes that the solution to the healthcare crisis is less government meddling in the doctor/patient relationship, more competition in the insurance market and more choice for families about their health plan.

Gun Control - Christine’s strong support of 2nd Amendment rights has earned her an “A” rating from the NRA.

Fixed the format this time.

81 well, she dabbled in witchcraft as a youngster, the president dabbled in drugs

82
As a concerned Christian purity voter, the witchcraft thing is nothing. It's not a skeleton.

What's so bad about it? Tell me, I want to know how this hurts her.

83

Now I understand why no one in Washington ever called out these Rinos before.

Its like telling your wife its not the jeans that make your ass look fat, its all the god damn ice cream and ho hos you eat.

84 67 Gabe, the fact that you felt you had to make this post proves you have some idea of how pissed off a lot of commenters have gotten here.  Drew, particularly, seems to have a vested interest in O'Donnell's defeat purely for "I told you so" purposes.

I would've supported Castle, were I in DE, for the pragmatic reasons stated.  But the treatment of O'Donnell's supporters prior to the primary was grotesque, and since the primary that animus has only increased.

"Quit being fucking assholes" is usually pretty good advice in any endeavor.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at September 19, 2010 04:21 PM (U/eda)

You could just go look down at the previous thread and see memomachine basically accusing him of being Coons campaign manager.  Its not as if some people are being subtle in how pissed they are.

For all the people bitching about "trickling stuff out about O'Donnell" or talking about it because of sour grapes or whatever other stuff its pretty funny and ridiculous.  Because if you read the comments in other threads you'll find that its being talked about in the threads that aren't about it.  So obviously its stuff the readers want to talk about.  Making a post about it is pretty logical.  And if you're looking for people to yell at for that I think your anger is better placed towards commenters who are talking about it 5 posts down before a blog post about it was ever made.

85

Drew, particularly, seems to have a vested interest in O'Donnell's defeat purely for "I told you so" purposes.

. . .

"Quit being fucking assholes" is usually pretty good advice in any endeavor.

What is wrong with this picture?

Nothing, from my bench.  If you are implying I'm being a fucking asshole, please say so.

86 This is why primaries shouldnt be this late. People need more time to get over this bullshit infighting and rally behind the candidate IMO.

87

Buddha?

Ate that sucker in one sitting.

I was hungry an hour later.

88

I never understood why would anyone right of center go on Maher's show anyway.  You know it's going to be a hatchet job going in.

Yeah.  Money?  Pub? 

I was asking the other day, and maybe someone here knows:  Why was O'Donnell ever on TV to begin with?  

89 2 Yes and people should stop promoting the MSM spin about her warts.
Nobody's fucking perfect and she's better than anything that the opposition can put forward .
Posted by: Beto at September 19, 2010 03:50 PM (H+LJc)

Okay just so I'm clear on the new ground rules - are we allowed to talk about anything negative about O'Donnell?

Cause I get the impression that the answer is NO. If that's the case, just say so so we can all get with the program.

90 Queens morons/moronettes: DUMP WEINER! VOTE TURNER! http://www.bobturnerforcongress.com/Home.aspx

91

--Considering the whole lotta nothing in the other direction, Grand Forks is as close as you can get (unless there's one in Bismarck).

Posted by: logprof at September 19, 2010 04:25 PM (BP6Z1)

zippiedy doo dah in Bismarck, except for some dipshit leftwing lawyer and a nutjob prof at the community college. Not even enough for a Seder.

The only other Jew in Bismarck that I could locate was a Dem state rep from GF and a real piece of work...

92

But how in the hell are we supposed to ignore this witchcraft story?

Maybe like I do, you laugh at the fucking fucktards that scream OMG she dabbled in witchcraft when she was a teenager!

Posted by: robtr at September 19, 2010 04:24 PM (fwSHf)

And they're screaming about it in a country in which the biggest entertainment franchise in history is Harry Potter.

The fussing about O'Donnell's "wiccan indiscretion" is aimed at getting Christian fundamentalist voters to abandon her.  To those doing the fussing I say: Good luck with that.

93 That 324 total yards so far doesn't matter to me. Kolb starts next weak.

Posted by: Andy Ried, Brain Surgeon at September 19, 2010 04:25 PM (IhHdM)

Kolb won't be starting for long with that putrid O-line.  He'll be in the hospital.

94
Her dabbling entailed, as I understand it, hanging around with a bunch of goth geeks who fancied themselves witches.

Nobody takes this shit seriously, not even Wiccans.

95 "Better a (RINO douche) in the Senate than two more years of Reid aiding and abetting the Obama rape of the American taxpayer.  At least, in my opinion: you may think that Majority Leader Reid is an acceptable price to pay to punish the Delaware GOP primary voters for their uppity insolence." Wasn't this the exact argument that the pragmatists were saying?

96 For Coons you get:

Jobs - Government is giving you all jobs what more do you need?

Security - Coons believes Tea Party people are a threat.

Debt - Love debt because if it gets too big we can call for more and more taxes.

Taxes - Yes

Life - Isn't that a game everyone played as a kid and advertised by Art Linkletter? He's dead move on.

Energy - Mo Green jobs.

Values - I values my call for taxes

Spending - Only on social programs

Accountability - What dat?

Healthcare - Obama plan.

Gun Control - Outlaw all guns

97

Yoo-Whoo, Oprah I'm like your biggest fan.

Well, not biggest in that way, duh. (giggle)

If you ever have like a doughnut giveaway on your show I am soooo there.

 

98 You have to admit jumping all over the "dabbled in witchcraft in college" thing is the weakest fucking attempt at a "hit" ever.

In college I'd have been the fucking high-priest of witchcraft if the tail I was chasing thought it was cool. So what?

There was a hilirious thing on Twitter last night about all the other evil, mundane things O'Donnell is rumored to have done like not coming to a complete stop before turning right on red and wearing white shoes after labor day.

Gotta laugh this one off.

99 DUMP WEINER!

VOTE TURNER!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 19, 2010 04:28 PM (9Cooa) 

Weiner doesn't cut the mustard!

I'll relish the news when I hear that Turner has managed to ketchup in the polls.

100
...are we allowed to talk about anything negative about O'Donnell?

Yeah sure, as long as you have a point in doing so. What would be the point, maetenloch?

101 OT.  Did I mention the Panthers SUCK.

Not causal suck, I am talking about "sucking chrome off a bumper" suck.

Anyone want some club seats?

102 I was disappointed that "Supersize Me" was not a love story.

103

how could anyone doubt your support??? i mean you state in bold letters but then end the post accusing o'donnell of running a purge?

 

that is some weak ass shit. y'all on this blog need to let it go and move forward and stop trying to blame the winners for your sour grapes. pussies.

104 Hey, let's keep putting posts up about our fake support of O'Donnell so no one will notice our complete lack of anything negative about our Lord and Savior Mike Castle. Criticize him and DIE you big meanie true conservatives.

105

And look who else reared her ugly head. Olympia Snowe. Castle's loss shook up the party and moved those bipartisan dunces a little to the right, I reckon.

Posted by: I See Georgia O'Keefe When I Look At My Penis at September 19, 2010 04:22 PM (hsb95)

I doubt it at the moment.  If she wins the seat it might make them move right.  The result I see is that it will make Snowe and other not look past their primary challengers that are more conservative and so they'll tack more to the right during the Primary.  And since most primaries aren't conducted this close to the actual election, I don't see it affecting them that much.

As I said I think the real shake up and wake up call to them will be a victory.  A loss and they'll try to play the "I told you so" game.

106 Finally.  I'm a respected news source.

107

93

How about giving us 3 negative Coons stories for every 1 for O'Donnell?

You seemed overly focused on her negatives, and oblivous to all else.

An earlier post stated, "O'Donnell dabbled in witchcraft, Obama dabbled in drugs".

Since you went all in for Castle, to many of us, you seemed to have lost your sense of balance.

108 105 OT.  Did I mention the Panthers SUCK.

Not causal suck, I am talking about "sucking chrome off a bumper" suck.

Anyone want some club seats?

Posted by: Kemp at September 19, 2010 04:31 PM (AQxTm)

One more thing: Chiefs are 2-0!!!!

What a delightful irony if the Colts and Broncos become 0-2.

109 104...are we allowed to talk about anything negative about O'Donnell?

Yeah sure, as long as you have a point in doing so. What would be the point, maetenloch?
Posted by: I See Georgia O'Keefe When I Look At My Penis at September 19, 2010 04:31 PM (hsb95)

Well the story has been on CNN and FOX and all over blogs on the left and right. And undecided voters in DE are hearing about it on the local news. So it seems to be a valid story to me. Or am I missing something?

110 /fucking attention whore sockpuppet

111 Avast, yea mateys. It's time to let this thing walk the plank and send coons down to Davey Jones locker.  He's a scallywag and a scurvydog.  So lets start swashbucklin!

112 "if the O'Donnell folks could call off their purge"
WTF???
I not sure what Gabriel is alluding to.

See practically everything written by Dan Riehl or Mark Levin this week. And also a sprinkling of posts from Legal Insurrection. And then there was the fundraising letter from Senator DeMint suggesting that the Alaska fight is proof of "big tent hypocrisy" and explaining why we need to shut that big tent stuff right down.

113 that is some weak ass shit. y'all on this blog need to let it go and move forward and stop trying to blame the winners for your sour grapes. pussies. Well. I'm glad to see that we've put this fiasco behind us and that there's no bad blood or anything. I was afraid for a while there that people had gone off the deep end a little bit, but I'm glad to see that cooler heads have prevailed.

114

It seems this blog is on the verge of having a permanent commentor split, which is rather worrisome to me. This screaming and shouting isn't accomplishing anything. If you're for O'Donnell, go campaign for her; if you aren't, then campaign for people you do like.

But WTF are we doing to ourselves right now? I thought this was a place of laughter, snarky comments, military pron, etc. Are we honestly willing to rip this blog in two because of a primary?

115 There's no nibbles like cannibals.

116 Go fuck a parrot.

117 Vick-tory, Iggles.

Posted by: Andy Ried, Brain Surgeon at September 19, 2010 04:35 PM (IhHdM)

In spite of Reid and Sean McDermott's best efforts.

118
A loss and they'll try to play the "I told you so" game.

Perhaps you're right, but it would be at their own peril. Speaking for myself, my frustration with the Republican party is growing. If they don't change their ways, then people like me will no longer support the Browns, Kirks, etc. until they finally learn they lesson.

They should consider Bennett's, Murkowski's, and Castle's loss and Rand Paul's win as a shot across the bow. Because 2012 isn't gonna be kind and patient with these bipartisan dildos.

119 I don't think anyone actually cares about the witch thing, other than the fact that it adds to the chorus of ridicule. She needs to do something like FNS or OReilly to show she's a serious candidate, cause I don't doubt her policy knowledge. The problem is the only thing the average person keeps hearing is masturbation and witches. Alinsky tactics dictate that ridicule is impossible to come back from, and thats the problem with the witch thing. It just sounds goofy. On that subject, Kimmel did a pretty funny pro-masturbation fake Coons ad.

120 Can't we all just get along and kick a bearded commie's ass like decent folks?

121 Well, owners of Jahvid Best and Calvin Johnson can be happy the Eagles defense sucks.

122 Rove wants O'Donnell to lose and is trying to defeat her. He has not said one word about her opponent. Everyday now he is slamming her for something while also saying he supports her LOL.

123 Delaware Morons, Vote for O'Donnell

My vote here in SC is being wasted since DeMint is a lock. Can a bunch of us Morons rent a house in DE move in for a few days and register to vote and get absentee ballots?

I hear that worked fine for the Democrats in OH in 2008.

124 Can't we all just get along and kick a bearded commie's ass like decent folks?

Sounds good to me, though I'm still curious to find out if I was called a fucking asshole upthread.

125

But WTF are we doing to ourselves right now? I thought this was a place of laughter, snarky comments, military pron, etc. Are we honestly willing to rip this blog in two because of a primary?

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at September 19, 2010 04:35 PM (Yq+qN)

I'm on a no unity vibe right now and you're kinda harshen my mellow with that kind of talk.

126  I agree TJ.

127

127 Rove wants O'Donnell to lose and is trying to defeat her. He has not said one word about her opponent. Everyday now he is slamming her for something while also saying he supports her LOL.

So what? If you want O'Donnell to win, then get out there and work for her. Show Rove he's wrong.

128

If everyone would just move to the center this outbreak of island tipping would cease and we could get back to our job.

129

They should consider Bennett's, Murkowski's, and Castle's loss and Rand Paul's win as a shot across the bow.

Right, but that shot across the bow isn't going to mean much if ends up being the only shot we're capable of.  Without the follow through of victories in those contests, and in 2012 when we start loading our cannons they'll start laughing.

130 We ran a legit race in Alaska. The moderate LOST. Then the moderate goes write in on us LOL. Chuck Devore did not go write in. Ovide did not go write in. Only the MODERATES are the ones going write in and third party, switching parties, etc right now. I would have ripped them even more than Demint did. Why are we supposed to fall in the line after the primary, but the moderates (liberals) aren't?

131 129 I'm just going to keep talking football.

Posted by: lowandslow at September 19, 2010 04:38 PM (GZitp)

 

Go to your room.

132 How bout give us as many negative stories on Kirk and Rossi as Odonnell. Or are they  perfect?

133 "Better a (RINO douche) in the Senate than two more years of Reid aiding and abetting the Obama rape of the American taxpayer.  At least, in my opinion: you may think that Majority Leader Reid is an acceptable price to pay to punish the Delaware GOP primary voters for their uppity insolence."

Wasn't this the exact argument that the pragmatists were saying?

Posted by: BSR at September 19, 2010 04:30 PM (mmr6o)

Yes -- BEFORE the primary.

It's now AFTER the primary.  I note a lot of people who supported Castle are now saying, "We never liked him, we just wanted to make the pragmatic choice to win Senate control."  Well, Skippy, the pragmatic choice TODAY is to support the actual GOP nominee.  (Look at Lisa Merchovsky in Alaska to see the textbook opposite of pragmatism in the pursuit of a GOP majority.)

And for the record, for those who opposed Kirk in Illinois during the primary because they think he's a RINO douche:  Better the RINO douche as the next US Senator from Illinois than two more years of Reid aiding and abetting the Obama rape of the American taxpayer.  At least, in my opinion: you may think that Majority Leader Reid is an acceptable price to pay to punish the Illinois GOP primary voters for their lack of principle.  The principled choice TODAY is to support Kirk so that the other principled Senators can operate from the power position of a Senate majority.

134 I thought we quit burning witches in the country a long time ago.

She could have said that she dabbled in lesbianism when she was 18, and that would have been....  uh...  hot.

Point is, there are no perfect candidates, ever.

Hell, even Ronaldus Maximus had his flaws.

135

_{Jahvid Best and Calvin Johnson}

Calvin? 

That muthafucka smell like french-fries!

136 133. I am. I donated the max to her for starters. I am pointing out Rove's blatant dishonesty as he cloaks his remarks in "analysis" never mentioning that he was working for Castle behind the scenes by meeting with tea party groups to get them to support Castle.

137

If everyone would just move to the center this outbreak of island tipping would cease and we could get back to our job.

Posted by: Hank Johnson, Genius at September 19, 2010 04:40 PM (x29Dx)

Hank Johnson is right!

138 Hell, even Ronaldus Maximus had his flaws.

Posted by: Rickshaw Jack at September 19, 2010 04:41 PM (RsgqX)

I agree.

Orange hair is a sure sign of witchcraft.

139 For what little my opinion's worth, Gabe, I think it is a valid point that as long as this stuff is going to posted (and, as I mentioned, I want to know about it), it would make sense to post some more about the Coons stuff.  It's out there.  It's relevant to this.

140

The question is whether moderates will support conservatives.  If they just say "yes", and stop repeating, e.g., Maher's clips, then there would be no argument. 

In other words, if moderates just stick to the game plan and support the Republican primary winners, this conversation would drop and we could get back to business--throwing the Marxists out-of-office.

Posted by: Scoob at September 19, 2010 04:25 PM (T7+JL)

Sure we will.  We already do.  Moderates like me are already very supportive of Miller, of Toomey, of Rubio......even, grudgingly, supportive of Angle (who is also a bad candidate, just one who can pull it off, barely, and would give us the biggest prize in the Senate, Reid's seat).

This Delaware race is different for two reasons:  1.)  O'Donnell isn't just a bad candidate, she's a SPECTACULARLY awful candidate.  She'd be the biggest joke running for Senate this year, if not for poor old Alvin Green down in SC.  2)  The "true conservatives" have poisoned this race so deeply for a lot of us that there's just no hope for unity there.  And I'm afraid that it's going to happen all over again on a much, much larger scale in 2012, once it becomes, as Allahpundit put it, a primary race between "Palin" against the "not-Palin".

Oh, and about the witchraft stuff:  on one hand, it's nothing, because wicca has become something of a "trendy" religion, especially for younger women (which was when she dabbled with it), and wicca is a relatively tame religion (no suicide bombers that I can think of).  But her saying "sure, I dabbled in witchcraft" does go to the overall impression that she's a kook.  And it makes some of her followers looks stupid when they go "this can't be true!  Just more lies told about her", when there's actual video footage of her admitting to it.

141 Hell, even Ronaldus Maximus had his flaws.

Posted by: Rickshaw Jack at September 19, 2010 04:41 PM (RsgqX)

What? you mean like dabbling in being a fucking democrat for half his life? stuff like that ?

142

We can deal with the witchery and even the cheeseburgers,

Posted by: Country Club Republicans at September 19, 2010 04:12 PM (c1oyg)

You don't understand.  She eats them with her hands.  Instead of using her hands the way she should, IYKWIMAITYD.

143 She could have said that she dabbled in lesbianism when she was 18, and that would have been....  uh...  hot.

Posted by: Rickshaw Jack at September 19, 2010 04:41 PM (RsgqX)

Jack, you magnificent bastard!  You have stumbled upon electoral dynamite.

144 138 How bout give us as many negative stories on Kirk and Rossi as Odonnell. Or are they  perfect?

Posted by: Keven at September 19, 2010 04:40 PM (4uSLl)

Are they making any news at the moment to warrant a post like that?  Or would you like the bloggers to go dig up dirt on candidates rather than merely offer commentary on what is already news and what commenters have been talking about 5 posts earlier already?

145 This is precious. Check the commenters. They assumed he was talking about us here at the HQ, Allah, Patterico, others. And the commenters here directed exactly the same accusation: that we were "dribbling out" anti-O'Donnell pieces for traffic. More than that, the traffic-bait accusation has already flown back and forth a few times.

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at September 19, 2010 04:07 PM (1TvCg)

And why wouldn't they include AoS? What part of this post by Drew isn't a naked attempt to milk this? The only attempt to even explain OD's position is "It's old and she changed her mind". And then makes hash of Maher dribbling this crap out when any fool with 2 fingers could Google it and get the entire thing from Thinkprogress.

O'Donnell has canceled her scheduled appearances on Face the Nation and Fox News Sunday. That may or not be related to this disclosure but it's not a good thing.

It may be? Her campaign specifically said it wasn't when they announced it and gave a very explicit explanation. What may be is there?

I will also say this...she's getting far more vetting than Obama ever did. It's not right and it's not fair but it is reality.

Vetting? Or Vilification? And the best Drew can come up with is "It's old and she changed her mind"?


What could go wrong? The question is, which group is bigger?

Ooooh! We'll see won't we? Stay tuned for more when Bill Maher hands us the next snippet!

146

116

Gabriel,

Did Mark and Dan refer to you specifically?  To Ace?

I listen to Mark, and the only blog that he mentioned was Powerlineblog (or is this a source of outrage in-of-itself)?

Or are you and the other Ace bloggers offended that Castle supporters are being criticized generally?

Specifically, I don't ever remember Mark critizing you.

And when you guys (along with Rove and Chucky K) seem to keep piling on after the primary, it makes many of us question your true desire to get 51 Senate seats.

147 129 I'm just going to keep talking football.

Posted by: lowandslow at September 19, 2010 04:38 PM (GZitp)

--Me too.  I pleaded in the thread before this one, and someone ase here in this thread, for a new football thread.

Football and comely cheerleaders soothe the savage breast.

148

It's now AFTER the primary.  I note a lot of people who supported Castle are now saying, "We never liked him, we just wanted to make the pragmatic choice to win Senate control."  Well, Skippy, the pragmatic choice TODAY is to support the actual GOP nominee. 

Posted by: stuiec at September 19, 2010 04:41 PM (fgCQL)

But it isn't, following the Buckley rule.  That being, of course, the most conservative candidate who's ELECTABLE.

Seeing as many of  us don't see her as electable, pragmatism states that she will lose.  Hence Legal Insurrection writing an op-ed imploring us to follow the "Lombardi Rule" instead.

149

I think I have figured this out.

RINOs only have one brain

and since Karl Rove has lost control of it,

all of the rest of the RINOs are fighting to see who gets to play with it next.

150
btw, what about Linda McMahon?

Talk about skeletons...

She donates to friggin Democrats, for starters. And if you ever watched the WWF, she was involved in some of the most base story-lines in the fake-wrestling soap opera saga.

151

"Chuck Devore did not go write in. Ovide did not go write in. Only the MODERATES are the ones going write in and third party, switching parties, etc right now. "

Yeah, for all the worry about the "pure-as-snow" Tea Party conservatives breaking ranks and forming a third party, or throwing a hissy-fit and staying home, or trying to torpedo the Republican nominee, they don't seem to be the problem.

You might notice that also, in 3 rather large DC Mall rallies, plus countless others around the country, they haven't left a speck of litter. 

They're pretty mannerly, for a bunch of frothing-at-the-mouth, bigoted, hate-filled fear mongers.

 

152

141 I thought we quit burning witches in the country a long time ago.

We never burned witches in this country.  Killed a few people accused of it yeah.  But the burning at the stake thing was the European solution.

153 If I lived in Delaware, I'd vote for her. That being said, it's perfectly fine to note that it was idiotic for some on here to jump on this crazy beyatch's bandwagon, thus assuring the Dems retain this seat, when the RINO would have won hands down, possibly giving the GOP control of the Senate, which would pretty much shut Obama down cold for the remainder of his one term.

I don't want to hear that a majority in the Senate is not necessary, those who say this are just ignorant of how the system works. A Democratically controlled Senate allows Obama to get some of his agenda at least up for a vote.

So vote for the crazy bitch. I hope the crazy bitch wins. I'm still mad I have to vote for this crazy bitch. The RINO who could win was acceptable.

154

We never burned witches in this country.  Killed a few people accused of it yeah.  But the burning at the stake thing was the European solution.

Posted by: buzzion at September 19, 2010 04:46 PM (oVQFe)

Well it looks like we've gotten over that little quirk in our past.

155

Oh Herr Morgenholz, don't worry about being called an asshole. It happens to me like all the time. I still get to be on TV, like all the time you know and then I'm just like happy and stuff.

Oh, you like live on a farm and stuff don't you? And there's like pre bacon like things, and pre cheeseburger like things, like so could I come over sometime and like see that and stuff.

OK, thanks and bye.

156 _{^{44 fuck that, she's a witch, a bowler and eats cheeseburgers. No way am I backing her.}}

_{^{Posted by: robtr at September 19, 2010 04:09 PM (fwSHf)}}

^{What?  Cheeseburgers?  What have we wrought?}

^{Posted by: Editor}

Cheeseburgers are the best. Mr Lahey likes it when I eat cheeseburgers.

157

But WTF are we doing to ourselves right now? I thought this was a place of laughter, snarky comments, military pron, etc. Are we honestly willing to rip this blog in two because of a primary?

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at September 19, 2010 04:35 PM (Yq+qN)

That's not what it's about, really, is it?  It's about people wanting to be right and to be seen as right.

The primary is over.  Whichever side someone was on in the primary, the decision has been made.  The choice now is to get on board with shooting for a general election victory -- knowing full well that the purity/pragmatism debate will return at full volume on Nov. 3rd -- or to keep looking backward in an effort to self-justify (which applies to both sides, the winners and the losers) and thereby to eat away at the chance of winning Senate control on Nov. 2nd.

158 146 For what little my opinion's worth, Gabe, I think it is a valid point that as long as this stuff is going to posted (and, as I mentioned, I want to know about it), it would make sense to post some more about the Coons stuff.  It's out there.  It's relevant to this.

Posted by: AD at September 19, 2010 04:42 PM (0nUIV)

Yeah let's have lots of posts about Coons.  You can talk about him being Reid's pet, and that he's a commie.  And how his voting record shows him to be a commie, with probably some promises to voters that he went and fucked them over on.

I think you should have no problem getting 10-15 posts out of that.

159 But the burning at the stake thing was the European solution.

Posted by: buzzion at September 19, 2010 04:46 PM (oVQFe)

For a while, that is.

160 161 I am surprised how hot people still are about this race.

Posted by: toby928 at September 19, 2010 04:47 PM (S5YRY)

Cheeseburger-devouring witches are hot.

161 140: I agree now we all have to support COD but i'm getting tired of people who wanted castle for practical reasons getting called traitors and moderates and whatever by fuck heads like Mark Levin. I was skeptical of COD despite being for Joe Miller, for Rand Paul, for Chuck DeVore, against Bob Bennet, for Pat Toomey back in the day, etc. I follow the Buckley rule. I agree with you completely but we had dicklicks on here yesterday claiming castle supporters were all paid off, that type of shit is beyond irritating. Levin and his I'll need to realize not everyone who disagrees with him on every fucking thing is a closet communist. /rant

162 154 129 --Me too.  I pleaded in the thread before this one, and someone ase here in this thread, for a new football thread.

Football and comely cheerleaders soothe the savage breast.

I'm incredibly pleased the Cowgirls lost.

163 So Buzz, they should simply follow whatever the main stream news decides to talk about?

164
I thought we made it clear we only have room in these comment threads for one Chris, and we chose Chris in VA?

165

Moderate Candy-Ass RINO'S are mostly "moderate" when it comes to sliding to the Right.

Sliding to the Left? Hey, no problemo!

It was the "moderate" anal canal of Compassionate Conservatism that led to the Democrat's Baracking a big steamy pile of Obama on our country.

Thanks a lot you Moderate puss-wipes.

166

As far as I'm concerned the wic-con moment was endearing.

Actually, the thought of Christine O'Donnell as a bad girl is...well...

Sorry, gotta go...do something immoral.

167 And there's like pre bacon like things, and pre cheeseburger like things, like so could I come over sometime and like see that and stuff.

Posted by: Meghan McCain at September 19, 2010 04:48 PM (x29Dx)

You'd think that a mirror would be sufficient for her to see those things.

168

"Moderates" support anyone who will oppose the fool in the WH. I am a social moderate and a fiscal/constitutional conservative independent

I am very pissed that Princess Lisa Murk. seems to think this about her, and now Miller has to again run against this fool, the primaries weren't enough of a no for this princess.

this is why anyone needs any reason to stop the spending fool in the WH

http://tinyurl.com/38xpmr9

169

Thanks a lot you Moderate puss-wipes.

Posted by: Comapassionate Conservatism is Democrat Lite at September 19, 2010 04:49 PM (wFMDa)

And you are helping with victory in November... how, exactly?

170

RINO is french for

Whiny little cry babys who dont get thier way and will destroy everything in thier path until mommy comes and wipes thier nose and tells them everything will be ok and that daddy will bring them some ice cream and that there is no boogey man living under thier bed because if there was mommy would be sleeping with him because sometimes daddy has to work late and mommys have needs...

171 the RINO would have won hands down, possibly giving the GOP control of the Senate

Possibly.  And his only benefit was the unlikely scenario you lay out.  He'd be great as the 49th or 50th GOP Senator, right?

No, wait.  He'd be a liability the size of Giants Fucking Stadium.  A vote for Castle was in fact the riskier option, from that perspective.

172 161 The Mark Levins and Dan Riehls of this world decided to go all out and ignore the collateral damage supporting O'Donnell over Castle would cause. They told outright lies about Castle. They called Charles Krauthammer a sellout! They are still going after Patterico for his desire to see the GOP win the Senate with the RINO. All this for an unreliable, crazy BITCH who will not win.

So yeah, people are still hot. You burn bridges, you don't complain about the inevitable traffic jams.

173 As am I. Did I hear the Eagles are losing too?

Posted by: Chris in Va at September 19, 2010 04:50 PM (uCjoj)

They won.

174
oh no the Patriots are putting the wood to the Jets

175

"If I lived in Delaware, I'd vote for her.... I'm still mad I have to vote for this crazy bitch."

You not only don't have to, you can't.  You don't live in Delaware.

176 Cheeseburgers are the best. Mr Lahey likes it when I eat cheeseburgers.

Posted by: Randy at September 19, 2010 04:48 PM (aaULJ)

Basketball-eatin' walrus-assed motherfucka

177

178 And it makes some of her followers looks stupid when they go "this can't be true!  Just more lies told about her", when there's actual video footage of her admitting to it.

I don't recall anyone here saying it was a lie. I think the strongest statement made about it yesterday when the video was posted was made by me.

What I say was the it was an old clip made back when Maher was trying to be a comic and that it was heavily edited and she had probably been told to make outrageous comments for effect.

The most common comment was "who gives a shit?"

179

166 The primary is over.  Whichever side someone was on in the primary, the decision has been made....

I agree. The Republican voters of Delaware have spoken, and they have said they want O'Donnell. Now, I can disagree with that if I so choose, but it's ultimately their decision.

We also know Coons is a communist, and that he needs to be defeated. So, I would much rather spend time on that then pragmatist versus purist, especially since that debate is really doing nothing but going 'round in circles.

180 She donates to friggin Democrats, for starters. And if you ever watched the WWF, she was involved in some of the most base story-lines in the fake-wrestling soap opera saga.

Posted by: I See Georgia O'Keefe When I Look At My Penis at September 19, 2010 04:45 PM (hsb95)

And yet, she is the nominee.  Which means she deserves the support of anyone who wants to stop the Obama rape of America.

181

But WTF are we doing to ourselves right now? I thought this was a place of laughter, snarky comments, military pron, etc. Are we honestly willing to rip this blog in two because of a primary?

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at September 19, 2010 04:35 PM (Yq+qN)

The more I think about this past week, it's easy to see that the rift between the idealogicals / "true conservatives" and the moderates was always there under the surface.  This primary just drug it out into the open.

But it's very real.  And it's a serious fucking problem.  It may not screw up the GOP's chances for victory in many races this time around (except in Delaware), but if something doesn't happen, it will in 2012.

182 173 So Buzz, they should simply follow whatever the main stream news decides to talk about?

Posted by: Keven at September 19, 2010 04:48 PM (4uSLl)

Of course not.  But do you think they should completely ignore it?  Especially when its getting mentioned in every single post by commenters here? 

Do you know where I first heard about the Delaware primary?  It was in the comments here, probably 2-3 days before any of the bloggers posted about it. 

If its being talked about there's no reason to not make a post about it, unless you want to be in a fantasy world where every candidate with an R after their name is a perfect saint.

183 See, Seahawks.  You can only suck so long before it catches up to you. 

184 182 Another fucking idiot. Castle's individual vote would have been irrelevant. The GOP already has enough votes to prevent cloture. There's no difference between 41 and 49 Republican senators. There's a HUGE difference between 49 and 51. Who gives a shit about Castle? He can wallow in obscurity as any first term Senator with no seniority does. What matters is his status as a Republican, giving them the control over the upper chamber we need to stop the mad Socialist in the White House. Remember him? He's the fucking enemy.

185 Millions of fat, lavender-smelly, hairy-armpitted women in  tie-dyed moo-moos with pentacles hanging off their ears and giant crystal necklaces trapped under their chins are going to be mad that we are making fun of Wicca.

If you went into a bookstore a few years ago, the made-up religion shit was super big business. Wicca and "witchcraft" bullshit was everywhere. Research the fad around the time the movie The Craft came out.

It was cool for women to be up on that stuff then. Witches were the glittery ghey vampires of that day.

Let's lighten up on Christine. She could do good things if she gets the job.

She's not perfect.
All candidates can't be as super-serial as us keyboard cowboys here.

I couldn't withstand a minute of Senate-level Investigative Proctology.  The trannies (Ameican), the Tijuana hookers, the booze, 1996, and the questionable choices in nun porn would kick me right out.

I'd love to run for office though. Bet you folks would too.

Bet some of you folks couldn't pass muster either.

186 Primaries are water under the bridge.  Pivot to November, and look forward to a Democrat Gotterdamerung.  Their tears will be especially delicious.

Meanwhile, Dallas is 0-2, and the Jets defense is looking like a JV team.  What gives? 

187

We also know Coons is a communist, and that he needs to be defeated. So, I would much rather spend time on that then pragmatist versus purist, especially since that debate is really doing nothing but going 'round in circles.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at September 19, 2010 04:53 PM (Yq+qN)

I don't know, this whole anti communist thing needs another look. We're talking a teen age witch here. The fate of the nation lies in the balance.

188 Is it wrong for me to want another (okay, a less enduring one) injury to Wes Welker so Moss can get some TDs for me?

189 See, Seahawks.  You can only suck so long before it catches up to you. 

Posted by: Editor at September 19, 2010 04:54 PM (YX6i/)

We've always got the M's !

190

sweet Drew.

I was for Castle too, but now that he lost I am all in for O'donnell.

 

Can someone tell rove to shut the fuck up because he is on every news website now being quoted like crazy.

191 I say they should have ignored this topic until she came up with the "broom" line and then talked about it in a less negative light. Not jump almost immediately.

192

We've always got the M's !

Posted by: robtr at September 19, 2010 04:57 PM (fwSHf)

This is exactly how last week's game went, except the Broncos are actually executing in easy situations, unlike the 49ers did. 

193
And yet, she is the nominee.  Which means she deserves the support of anyone who wants to stop the Obama rape of America.

Exfuckingzactly. That's why it'd be pointless and counter-productive to repeat the negative shit about Linda McMahon. So this excuse of informing us because all the other news sources are carrying it is bullshit. They're targeting O'Donnell specifically. No need to copy it.

194  $1,859,177.86  She might not make 2M but I'm not betting against it.

Posted by: toby928 at September 19, 2010 04:56 PM (S5YRY)

Are you sure that's right? The last time I looked it was 1,666,666.00

195 Another fucking idiot.

I've been promoted from fucking asshole!

There's a HUGE difference between 49 and 51.

OK, fucknozzle.  I'll bite.  Now he's the 51st Senator.  Now we're truly fucked, because in the pursuit of power he'll play that like a mother fucker.  Either that or get the Presidential nomination.  Fuck, he's old enough.

196 I wonder if Rove isn't trying to raise money like crazy the best way he sees that he can.  Because he is.

197 161: I think part of it is that this DE race split people that are usually on the same side, as in 90%+ plus of the conservative blogosphere have been behind RINO hunting and insurgent candidates, but there was a split in this case for whatever reason. Think about it, was anyone on this blog or others for Marcowsky? Or that dude running against Rand Paul? If there were such types It wasn't very many.

198 199 The voters would have made the wiser choice had they not been deluged by bullshit from the likes of Levin, Hoft and Riehl. The primary was nationalized. The people of Delaware haven't spoken, they were led astray by outside forces who don't have a single clue as to what's really important to the people who live in DE.

199 If you went into a bookstore a few years ago, the made-up religion shit was super big business.

Racist!

200 Bet some of you folks couldn't pass muster either. My vast erotica collection, patronage of strip-joints, and fondness for Tito Puente albums would take me out of the running almost immediately. I would get the coveted Ace of Spades Lifestyle (tm) vote, but unfortunately that wouldn't be enough to carry my district.

201 If you went into a bookstore a few years ago, the made-up religion shit was super big business. Wicca and "witchcraft" bullshit was everywhere. Research the fad around the time the movie The Craft came out.

--Excuse me, but the goddess is still fucking alive, even if the Magick is no longer afoot.

202

180 "And you are helping with victory in November... how, exactly?"

I'm slapping the Moderate Candy-Asses to the Right.

What? Does that give the squishy fucks a moral-conviction-spine-of-steel all of a sudden?

But but but........ they DO support the Fiscal Conservative don't they?

Or does the Bearded Marxist confuse their sensibilities somehow?

 

203

Want a great example of what not to do?  How 'bout this:

Rove Says O'Donnell Must Explain Witchcraft Comments

Anyone care to defend Karl?

Gabe?

Drew?

Anyone?

Anyone actually not understand why conservatives are concerned about what the professional political class is trying to do? (No, not "ruling class;" just a bunch of professional consultants concerned about their personal power, reputation, and earnings potential.)

204 211 We all supported Scott Brown. How was Castle any worse than Brown?

I think Alaska went to some people's heads. They now think hardcore conservatives can win anywhere. That's sadly not true.

205

Wow, and I thought this Delaware nonsense couldn't get anymore fucking annoying.

206 sorry, ACE. just not convinced that she's not going to be an embarassment to the party for six years. it would be better to push her out and replace her with castle. failing that, coons would be better.

207 Is it wrong for me to want another (okay, a less enduring one) injury to Wes Welker so Moss can get some TDs for me?

Yes that would be wrong.

Wanting another forearm to the head because he's a Pat is totally kosher, though.

208 87 Now I understand why no one in Washington ever called out these Rinos before. 

Its like telling your wife its not the jeans that make your ass look fat, its all the god damn ice cream and ho hos you eat.

ROFL -- bingo!

209 219 If some people didn't enable this crazy bitch, Rove would not have to play damage control.

Just sayin'  .....

210 Who gives a shit about Castle? He can wallow in obscurity as any first term Senator with no seniority does. What matters is his status as a Republican, giving them the control over the upper chamber we need to stop the mad Socialist in the White House. Remember him? He's the fucking enemy.

Posted by: Chris R at September 19, 2010 04:55 PM (AO4qz)

Nobody gives a shit about Castle, and he can't wallow in obscurity as any first term Senator with no seniority does.  He LOST THE FUCKING PRIMARY.  You seem to be disoriented about the current date.

And if you really believe what you say about stopping the mad Socialist in the White House, you'd better do whatever is in your power to help Christine O'Donnell win on November 2nd.  Mike Castle is now completely impotent to stop Obama (except by giving O'Donnell his endorsement).  And all your whining about how O'Donnell can't win and how she's crazy and how it was a mistake to nominate her is aiding and abetting the mad Socialist enemy.

211 My vast erotica collection, patronage of strip-joints, and fondness for Tito Puente albums would take me out of the running almost immediately. I would get the coveted Ace of Spades Lifestyle (tm) vote, but unfortunately that wouldn't be enough to carry my district.

You underestimate us.

212

And yet, she is the nominee.  Which means she deserves the support of anyone who wants to stop the Obama rape of America.

Posted by: stuiec at September 19, 2010 04:53 PM (fgCQL)

Ok let's support her, and give her the support she deserves.  How many other GOP candidates that are down 10 points are we giving major coverage too and having supporters talking them up every other post and attacking anyone not on the bandwagon with them?

Angle deserves more support and coverage in her efforts to unseat Reid.  Can we talk about her instead?  She's got the "loony" stuff like siding with Scientologists.  And more support for her would be very helpful.

213

Let me weigh in on this.

Ooooh, I made a funny.

214 Wicca was the cool a la carte smelly religion before Yoga made it cool.

And with witchcraft you can eat lots of McDonald's and don't have to try to bend over and kiss your own sack. Which is kinda the official Demomcrat handshake.

215 O'Donnell vs. Coons

So in their youth, one believed in an ideology that bore no resemblance to reality and the other was in to witchcraft. 

I wonder what Harry's pet name is for him.  Do you think, Coons sees himself as butch, wanting to be called Rex?  I'm thinking he's the bitch and likes to be called fiff. 

216 I think Alaska went to some people's heads. They now think hardcore conservatives can win anywhere. That's sadly not true.

Posted by: Chris R at September 19, 2010 05:01 PM (AO4qz)

Scott Brown is what he is, and we should be thankful.  Jim DeMint ain't winning in Mass.

217
that's enough out of you, Chris R

I've read 'crazy bitch' enough times, today.

218 If some people didn't enable this crazy bitch, Rove would not have to play damage control.

Just sayin'  .....

Posted by: Chris R at September 19, 2010 05:02 PM (AO4qz)

The only person that fat faced little fucker is playing damage control for is Karl Rove and it isn't working.

219 209 Castle, as a first term senator would have little power to do anything.

This fucknozzle didn't sleep through civics class.

220 Its like telling your wife its not the jeans that make your ass look fat, its all the god damn ice cream and ho hos you eat. I think it was Ron White who said, "Do those jeans make your ass look fat? No, I think your ass is doing most of the work."

221 Guys, Rove is causing her to raise a shitload of money.  I wouldn't put being an asshole on purpose past him.  He doesn't care about his popularity one whit.  He has always, always cared about getting the job done.

222 192 The more I think about this past week, it's easy to see that the rift between the idealogicals / "true conservatives" and the moderates was always there under the surface.  This primary just drug it out into the open.

But it's very real.  And it's a serious fucking problem.  It may not screw up the GOP's chances for victory in many races this time around (except in Delaware), but if something doesn't happen, it will in 2012.

The divide between "true conservatives" and "moderates" has existed for many years. Some 20th C pundits talked about fusionism, others of a 3rd way, and some said to stop participating altogether. The way I see it, there isn't a "permanent fix", and there never will be.   

223 Not gonna defend Rove (he's acted like a huge fuck face since the primary) but he seems to have written DE off and is moving on to other races. COD seems to have raised a lot money this week, if that starts to move the numbers we might see some of the establishment find there way back to her.

224 Hey - what is the big deal if CO'D is wiccan - perhaps she actually is in a new-agey coven, has orgies drenched in pigs blood, and generally tries to undermine western society with her evil philosophy - won't that just make her more attractive to Democrats?

225 WHAT THE FUCK?!  THROWING ON 3RD & 2-INCHES??!!11!!!11!!!

226

Karl Rove is fench for...

 

Whiny little cry babys  BABY who dont DIDNT get thier  HIS way and will destroy everything in thier  HIS path until mommy comes and wipes thier HIS nose and tells them  HIM everything will be ok and that daddy will bring them  HIM some ice cream and that there is no boogey man living under thier HIS bed because if there was mommy would be sleeping with him because sometimes daddy has to work late and mommys have needs...

 

FTFY

227 just look at her background for crying out loud. this is going to be the biggest case of buyers remorse ever (it already is). she will go down and take sarah palin with her by association (not just because of endorsement but because they are both lightly educated, women, etc.)

228 234 The bitch is crazy. Vote for her, but don't deny what she is.

I really wish I didn't have to endorse a crazy bitch.

229 219

Want a great example of what not to do?  How 'bout this:

Rove Says O'Donnell Must Explain Witchcraft Comments

 

Looks like Obama's check to Tokyo Rove cleared.

230

Let me weigh in on this.

Ooooh, I made a funny.

Posted by: Meghan McCain at September 19, 2010 05:03 PM (x29Dx)

Meghan, you're showing your as again.

231 "And you are helping with victory in November... how, exactly?"

I'm slapping the Moderate Candy-Asses to the Right.

What? Does that give the squishy fucks a moral-conviction-spine-of-steel all of a sudden?

Posted by: Comapassionate Conservatism is Democrat Lite at September 19, 2010 04:59 PM (wFMDa)

No, it doesn't give them a moral-conviction-spine-of-steel.  It gives them a well-earned resentment of you and your constant ragging on them.  And that eats away at O'Donnell's chances of winning in November.

Congratulations.  You're on Team Obama.

232
Monty, can you ban this Chris R, please?

He's obviously a troll.

233 I don't understand how a nobody woman takes out a squish and she is crucified.  A nobody Miller takes out a squish, and..........crickets. 

234

 sorry, ACE. just not convinced that she's not going to be an embarassment to the party for six years. it would be better to push her out and replace her with castle

 

Like  Rino voting against his own party wouldnt be embarassing?

 

 

235 Hey Chris R, read post 33.

236 just look at her background for crying out loud. this is going to be the biggest case of buyers remorse ever (it already is). she will go down and take sarah palin with her by association (not just because of endorsement but because they are both lightly educated, women, etc.)

Posted by: mikhail at September 19, 2010 05:05 PM (6c0Az)

fuck off troll and spare me your concern.

237 Come on, taunting?  Feh.

238

"Not gonna defend Rove (he's acted like a huge fuck face since the primary) but he seems to have written DE off and is moving on to other races."

Which is why he's on national TV claiming that Christine O'Donnell has to explain her witchcraft comments from Maher's show from over a decade ago.

Just like he counseled W. that he had to directly address Dan Rather's concerns about W.'s service record, or about his DWI, or about allegations of cocaine use.

239

Anyone care to defend Karl?

Gabe?

Drew?

Anyone?

Anyone actually not understand why conservatives are concerned about what the professional political class is trying to do? (No, not "ruling class;" just a bunch of professional consultants concerned about their personal power, reputation, and earnings potential.)

Posted by: notropis at September 19, 2010 05:00 PM (cjcCc)

Have any of them defended him yet?  I can't recall.  I don't even think they've offered the doublethink that he's saying all this because he knows its actually helping O'Donnell raise money.  That's about as dumb as curious's friends saying its all part of the Democrat's plan to have Republicans win and take over the majority.

240 240 This isn't a divide between true conservatives and moderates. I think we are all true conservatives here. This is an argument between those who want ideological purity and those who want practical power. Both would be cool, but it's not realistic.

You play to WIN the game.

241 We will call off our purge when the moderates stop going independent, write in, and switching parties. How about that? LOL By the way, there was no purge! It is called an election which one person lost and one person won. This happens all the time in America. Sometimes my person wins, sometimes they lose.

242 Okay, who just said crazy bitch?!

Who?!

243

I know how to bring everyone together:

David Frum is a cocksucking idiot.

A uniter, not a divider.

244 The people of Delaware haven't spoken, they were led astray by outside forces who don't have a single clue as to what's really important to the people who live in DE.

Isn't this Murcowsky's argument in Alaska?

245

If candidate A is down 10 points, how many points must be made up for the win?

The fucking answer aint 11!.

 

246 253: Two reasons. first, Miller is a almost a dream candidate in terms of his background and has no baggage we know of. Second, AK is a heavy red state and the R primary might as well be the election this year ( even with Murky's crybaby meddling). Delaware votes much closer to Maine than Alaska.

247

Let me weigh in on this.

Ooooh, I made a funny.

Heh.  Heavy, man.

248

Ok let's support her, and give her the support she deserves.  How many other GOP candidates that are down 10 points are we giving major coverage too and having supporters talking them up every other post and attacking anyone not on the bandwagon with them?

Angle deserves more support and coverage in her efforts to unseat Reid.  Can we talk about her instead?  She's got the "loony" stuff like siding with Scientologists.  And more support for her would be very helpful.

Posted by: buzzion at September 19, 2010 05:02 PM (oVQFe)

Absolutely we should support Angle.  And the fact that Angle has the loony stuff in her background and is still tied with or a bit ahead of Reid should tell you that O'Donnell's ten-point deficit isn't the end of the Coons-O'Donnell story either.

Or are you really, really hoping that O'Donnell loses?  Would that be a good thing in your view?  Like I asked before: is Majority Leader Reid an acceptable price to pay for the satisfaction of sticking it to the Delaware GOP primary voters?

249

I know how to bring everyone together:

David Frum  KARL ROVE is a cocksucking idiot.

250 How is Angle doing against Reid, anyway?

251 I read 33. The only difference between Brown and Castle is that Brown looks better in a suit. Brown has an excellent capacity to talk out of both sides of his mouth. Which is fine, because it's fucking Massachusetts and that's all I can expect from there.

Castle's ACU rating was higher than Collins.

252

I know how to bring everyone together:

David Frum is a cocksucking idiot.

Posted by: Chris in Va at September 19, 2010 05:08 PM (uCjoj)

See?  It's not hard to find common ground.

253

I get a kick out of all the experts whining about O' Donnell being down 11 points. I didn't hear that so much when Rubio was down 9 points after Crist went indie.

Seems like after the campaign started rubio went from down 9 to up 14. You whiners have some pretty weak sauce.

254 272 Angle, unlike O'Donnell isn't a crazy bitch. There are also more conservatives in Nevada, so she has a better chance of winning. Plus there's her opponent.

255 Oh, I'm sure she'll be a complete and utter gaffe machine.

The people of Delaware apparently see that as a plus in their Senator.

256 Hey Gabe. How about instead of posting vote for O'Donnell you post something about how Politically Incorrect was a show setup as an argument designed to get the most extreme statements out of it's guests? How Maher described the program as "The McLaughlin Group on acid"? How The show's writers included Al Franken and Arianna Huffington? How Bill Maher is a publicity whore who wouldn't be spending 5 minutes on this if he didn't have footage?

257 268 Stop making sense. Some think it's shouldn't be allowed.

258

the fact that Castle made his first phone call after he lost was to Joe Biden, from what was reported, seems like Castle might have been a place holder for Beau Biden in 4 years.

I don't know. all I know is she is solid vote against the spending nonsense from the fool-in-chief, and that's good enough to root and contribute to her.

259 So, does anyone know why O'Donnell was ever on TV in the first place?  She wasn't a pundit or a commentator.  She wasn't an expert.  What happened?

260

OK, fucknozzle.  I'll bite.  Now he's the 51st Senator.  Now we're truly fucked, because in the pursuit of power he'll play that like a mother fucker.  Either that or get the Presidential nomination.  Fuck, he's old enough.

It wouldn't be at all surprising.  The only reason the RNC were pushing him so hard was that they cut a deal with him:  they'd back him for a Senate seat if he refrained from embarrassing them by voting for the stimulus and Obamacare.

Castle voted conservative 20% of the time in 2007 and 28% of the time in 2008.  Then, suddenly, when the GOP establishment needs to hold their House caucus together (while winking at Specter, Snowe, and Collins in the Senate to queer the deal), he scores 56% in 2009!  Just in time for the Frums to tell us that we might not like him personally, but we need 51 seats yada yada yada ad nauseum. Coincidence?  Not no, but hell no.

261 Constant lurker, 5th-time poster here.

For what it's worth, the threads of the last week on the DE Senate race are pretty much what liberal blog comment threads looked like in the last 8 weeks of the 2008 presidential primaries in the heat of the Obama/Clinton wars. There ended up being some serious splits in the community, some temporary, some permanent. As a blue team guy, it made me sick, even though I had a dog in the fight and I wanted him to win (Obama). I remember that there were Hillary loyalists so pissed you'd almost think they wanted Obama to lose, just to prove a point. Winning ultimately solved a lot of problems. If it hadn't gone that way, yikes.

I'm from Jersey originally. I know Delaware pretty well. If O'Donnell wins, it's a red wave perfect storm that carries her over. If not, that's Delware for you. I'm not sure it means anything more than that either way. Just sayin', from an outsider's perspective. But easy for me to say.

262 115 Avast, yea mateys. It's time to let this thing walk the plank and send coons down to Davey Jones locker.  He's a scallywag and a scurvydog.  So lets start swashbucklin!

Here, here!  I say here . . . uh . . . er  oh dear  oh my . . .

(Frightful savages!  and with that shockingly racist undertone -- oh my. *muttering to self*)

263

I get a kick out of all the experts whining about O' Donnell being down 11 points. I didn't hear that so much when Rubio

She's no Rubio.

264 When the other party (thats the democrats for all you Rinos) uses your main mans (thats Karl Rove for all you Rinos) words to attack thier opponent (thats the chick that WON the primary for all you Rinos) then something is fucked up.

265

250 "No, it doesn't give them a moral-conviction-spine-of-steel.  It gives them a well-earned resentment of you and your constant ragging on them.  And that eats away at O'Donnell's chances of winning in November.

Congratulations.  You're on Team Obama."

 

So you admit that you squishy moderate fucks are completely guided by your emotions.

Proving once again that you hand-wringers are 3/4 Liberal -loyal.

Thanks for confirming the obvious.

 

266 Chris R, seriously, the jig is up.  We know what you are.  So go take the cucumber outta your mommas crack you've been growing there and clean-it off in your talky orifice before adding it to your daddy's tossed salad.

267

To the Castle and O’Donnell people who will not let this go –

You are hurting this blog. I am a longtime lurker who appreciates the quality of the posts and the raucous humor of the comments section. But lately most of the comment threads have degenerated into Castle/OÂ’Donnell flame wars, and a lot of the other regular commenters are sounding beleaguered.

On election night, conservatives will be looking for a place to celebrate. To high-five each other for races won, to commiserate on the ones we don’t win, and to jeer at the outgoing Democrats and their disconcerted supporters. What will we find at AoSHQ? If O’Donnell loses, endless sarcastic “Oh thank you purity squad for f***ing up our chance to control the Senate” comments. If O’Donnell wins, endless preachy “You f****ing RINO-lovers are what’s wrong with the Republican party” comments. And either way, the flame war erupts again.

If you cannot respect each other, can you at least respect Ace enough to not turn his blog into an Internet sideshow?

Ace, you may want to consider a pre-emptive promise to banhammer anyone who posts an “I told you so” comment re Castle/O’Donnell on election night. For the good of your blog.

268

"Arrrg!" seems the appropriate response to this family feud.  It's Deleware, they were crazy enough to elect Biden multiple times.  God knows what they'll do.  It does irritate me that they get just as many senators as a real state but being the First State I guess has its privledges.  How many people did they have to get to vote yes to ratify, two dozen?  Probably had a witch or two in the mix.

BOOBIES!  Take it and run with it.

269 We know what Axelrod has his coffee-house trolls doing from now until November, right? Right?

OK then.

Let us remember who we'd be sharing foxholes with if the Obamas of the world got their way. It ain't people like Coons.

270

" I remember that there were Hillary loyalists so pissed you'd almost think they wanted Obama to lose, just to prove a point. "

many DE Hillary dems are helping O'Donnell

271

I don't know, this whole anti communist thing needs another look. We're talking a teen age witch here. The fate of the nation lies in the balance.

Posted by: robtr at September 19, 2010 04:55 PM (fwSHf)

Christina == Sabrina!!

272 277 DELAWARE IS NOT FLORIDA!

Not all states are alike. Delaware is a bastion of the Democratic party and it's center-left. Mark Rubio would probably lose if he were running there.

273

Absolutely we should support Angle.  And the fact that Angle has the loony stuff in her background and is still tied with or a bit ahead of Reid should tell you that O'Donnell's ten-point deficit isn't the end of the Coons-O'Donnell story either.

That assumes that the political makeup of Nevada is the same as that in Delaware.  And of course it isn't the end, but how many other ten point deficit races are getting pushed this hard as "we must win this seat no matter the cost?"

Or are you really, really hoping that O'Donnell loses?  Would that be a good thing in your view?  Like I asked before: is Majority Leader Reid an acceptable price to pay for the satisfaction of sticking it to the Delaware GOP primary voters?

Posted by: stuiec at September 19, 2010 05:11 PM (fgCQL)

I've said several times I want O'Donnell to win.  Now let me ask you this, is winning or barely losing the election in Delaware and acceptable price to pay for losing 2-3 other seats we could have won if we hadn't focused so hard on Delaware?

Like I said, she deserves our support but it should be the support she deserves.  Which would be that of a candidate 10 points down in a blue state.

274 Some Cook PVI's to consider, do with this data what you will, but its insanity to not at least consider the makeup of the electorate: AK R+13 DE D+7 FL R+2 KY R+7 MA D+12 NV D+1 Discuss.

275
Posted by: A Liberal AoSHQ reader

1) Do you approve or disapprove of Obama, today?
2) Would you vote for him again in 2012?

276 OK, when I was younger, and more foolish, I was very "into" the homebrew scene.  I attended functions all over my state, and almost invariably the news crews would solo me out for an interview.  I must have been on local stations at least 15 times in the course of a 3 year span.

I remember one interview where I was at a local Oktoberfest, and by the time the news crews got there I was pretty much all the way into the bag.

First question was: So why are you here?
Answer: Some boilerplate nonsense about helping the local community.. bleh bleh blah.....

Second question:  What are you drinking?
Answer:  Red Hook ESB (this is when Red Hook first started brewing)

3rd : Do you consider yourself a beer connoisseur?
Answer:  Nope, just a heavy drinker.

Yes, I really did say that on a live local news report, and I got passed over at work for a promotion a few months later because of it.

Why did I answer that way?  To this day I have no idea why.

So that is my story, and that is why I could care less what she answered in an interview some 20 years ago.

277

She's no Rubio.

Posted by: rdbrewer at September 19, 2010 05:16 PM (Q43FA)

Well like I said, you are an expert. If you are still saying that on November 3rd it will be affirmed.

278 Somebody said somewhere that the last 5 years, Castle had a 41 ACU rating. Collins hasn't been that bad the last 5 years. I also don't think Collins would act like Castle has if she lost. I could be wrong though.

279

Don't let them call you a crazy bitch Christine!

They tried that with me and I showed 'em.

Hell, I ran for President.

280

People keep labelling this strife withing the Republican Party as some as "civil war".
But to have a war  you need two sides facing off and fighting it out- which is not what's happening here.

This is a hog-killing.

Now we see cadre of people who consider themselves our moral and intellectual superiors, who for so long stood over us with a whip and dictated to us how it was going to be, and they're running around and screeching like a bunch of stuck pigs.

Why would we make it stop?

281

Not all states are alike. Delaware is a bastion of the Democratic party and it's center-left. Mark Rubio would probably lose if he were running there.

 

 

and I forgot that New Jersey was such a huge bastion of conservative thinking.

282 291 I won't let it go, but I won't actively fight this. I genuinely want her to win. I am just upset we have to fight for her, probably a futile fight, when we had this seat locked up. That can not be dismissed. God help us if the GOP falls one seat short of winning the Senate. The fucking MSM will have a field day.

283 If O'Donnell wins, it's a red wave perfect storm that carries her over. If not, that's Delware for you.

Listen to the lib.  Balanced, reasonable, pragmatic.

In other words, a conservative waiting to happen.  But what the lib says is true, and O'Donnell can win this, precisely because this is a wave election.  This ain't a normal year, and I don't begrudge people taking a flyer on her.  I do, however, begrudge dicks.

284 DELAWARE IS NOT FLORIDA!

Not all states are alike. Delaware is a bastion of the Democratic party and it's center-left. Mark Rubio would probably lose if he were running there.

Posted by: Chris R at September 19, 2010 05:18 PM (AO4qz)

Really? Deleware is not Florida? Damn I just checked and you're right.

You're pretty smart for being such a crazy asshole troll and all.

285 119 It seems this blog is on the verge of having a permanent commentor split, which is rather worrisome to me. This screaming and shouting isn't accomplishing anything. If you're for O'Donnell, go campaign for her; if you aren't, then campaign for people you do like.

But WTF are we doing to ourselves right now? I thought this was a place of laughter, snarky comments, military pron, etc. Are we honestly willing to rip this blog in two because of a primary?

I think it'll be okay, Miss 80s;  hopefully it's just growing pains

286 306 NJ is redder than DE and Christie is pretty much a moderate on many issues. It's odd that so many have a man crush on him, yet want to kill Castle. Christie endorsed him, after all. Both spoke out against the stimulus.

Each election has it's own dynamic. If something happens in one place, it doesn't necessarily translate to another place and another time.

287
I do, however, begrudge dicks.

Is that some new gay euphemism?

288

Ok let's support her, and give her the support she deserves.  How many other GOP candidates that are down 10 points are we giving major coverage too and having supporters talking them up every other post and attacking anyone not on the bandwagon with them?

Posted by: buzzion


Take a quick look at the table of senate races over at 538.  Notice something?  We're talking about the Delaware race because, aside from the rinos and wets getting all ex-girlfriend on us about how TERRIBLY HURT they are, it's one of the few races remaining where there's a big gap to close.

The Reps are ahead or with-in the error bars in all their expected holds and pick-ups, and the Dems are safe in the states where the Reps didn't even bother to put up a fight (thanks for the big no effort Rudy).

Pretty much all that's left for the 4th quarter push is Delaware. Heck, even W. VA and Conn are looking pretty good at this point.

That is why, personal grudges aside, this race is getting so much attention. It's one of the few states were the real war is still going on.

289 310 Now I'm a troll?

Why? For disagreeing with you?

290

So you admit that you squishy moderate fucks are completely guided by your emotions.

Proving once again that you hand-wringers are 3/4 Liberal -loyal.

Thanks for confirming the obvious.

Posted by: Comapassionate Conservatism is Democrat Lite at September 19, 2010 05:17 PM (wFMDa)

Aaaand there you go: the strategy for defeat in November laid bare.

Do you actually want Christine O'Donnell to win in November, or are you secretly hoping she loses so that you can continue to rant and rave against squishy moderate fucks?  Because you're acting like the most important thing in the world to you is to make sure O'Donnell isn't tainted by receiving any votes that aren't pure and principled.

Are you really pleased to have Obama and his cronies in power -- is that what gives your life purpose and meaning?  Or are you willing to ask -- not DEMAND, but ASK -- the moderates to join you, to put aside your mutual differences until November 3rd, and to get behind the Republican nominees all across the country?

291 306: Re my home state...Christie is a hardcore fiscal conservative, but he's quite moderate socially.

292

People keep labelling this strife withing the Republican Party as some as "civil war".

Nah.

The Republican Party is merely purging by defecating. It's leaving a big steamy pile of squishy Moderate-Candy-Ass turds on the floor.

The Democraps will welcome these shits with open toilets.

293 @299

1) Yes
2) Yes

I'm not here to troll or get in a pissing match, FYI. I just have my views and vote on them. Of course I wish the economy was doing better - not just for Obama's sake, but for all of our sake's (I'm actually doing better than I was in 2008, but I'm just one guy). But somehow I doubt that many true first-principle conservatives voted for Obama just because the economy was bad in 2008 - you have your beliefs and you vote on them. I'm not a swing voter, if you catch my drift. I do read *a lot* of conservative blogs, though, so I'm not living in an echo chamber either.

But to be totally honest, like I've said before, I'm here at least 50% for the dick jokes.

294 I see crying Democrats.

295 So this and every other (right & left & in between) blog in the blogosphere has spent the entire week-end chasing the C.O'D witch story up a flag pole for the world to see. Just what I would want if I were a Democrat anywhere in the country running for any office, "lets just get all those bloggers on this Christine tangent and they'll leave me the hell alone". Democrats = 1 Republicans = 0 We need every week-end news cycle we can get, and there are precious few left before the general. Republicans need to own the next 6 Sunday mornings left. We need to get out a strong message in all 50 states and every blog that matters (including this one). To lose our message (Conservatives, Republicans, Tea partier's, right leaner's) at this late date is certain suicide. We must not allow the left MFM to usurp our strength by "leading" with these stupid stories. This news cycle has been a left troll's delight. I intend to work tirelessly fighting for Tea Party and Republican candidates until the early hours of Nov. 2nd . There is six Saturdays left before the election, I would suggest we all pick a candidate or 2 and start knocking on doors in our neighborhoods, and leave these silly stories to the left's echo chamber where it belongs.

296

288 When the other party (thats the democrats for all you Rinos) uses your main mans (thats Karl Rove for all you Rinos) words to attack thier opponent (thats the chick that WON the primary for all you Rinos) then something is fucked up.

The Dems have always quoted a lone Republican (or perhaps a few) to hurt someone else. Remember the Gang of 14? Or how about every time John McCain disagreed with President Bush?

297

and I forgot that New Jersey was such a huge bastion of conservative thinking.

Posted by: ROD SERLING at September 19, 2010 05:20 PM (eHP4n)

And who did Christie endorse in Delaware?

298 A Liberal AoSHQ reader, really!

Congrats my friend.  That's the most insightful comment I've seen on this topic for some time.  How sad for us. 

299 Now I'm a troll?

Why? For disagreeing with you?

Posted by: Chris R at September 19, 2010 05:24 PM (AO4qz)

No you can disagree with me all you want you crazy asshole troll.

300 313 I don't want Coons to win. I want the crazy bitch to win. That doesn't change the fact that I am annoyed at having to endorse her probably futile effort.

Like I said earlier this week, if O'Donnell wins I will put "noted idiot" after my name on every post I make for the rest of the year.

301 @308 touche. :-)

302 The funny thing is that RINOs think this country in its current state would have been different under MCCAIN

303 140 Look at Lisa Merchovsky in Alaska to see the textbook opposite of pragmatism in the pursuit of a GOP majority.

excellent point

304
Really, you still approve of a president who made the economy worse with his policies?

I suppose you're happy about health care, but aside from that, what has Obama done that has been successful in your view?

305 3rd : Do you consider yourself a beer connoisseur?
Answer:  Nope, just a heavy drinker.

And you landed here.  Who saw that coming?

But to be totally honest, like I've said before, I'm here at least 50% for the dick jokes.

You're 80% Republican then.  Hell, at least that much of our party is made up of dicks.

306 Castle had a 41 ACU rating.

If you look at his rating for the last 6 or 7 years he bounced around in the lower 50s and the 20s.

He was a DIABLO and the bogus "electability" issue was always on shaky ground and was completely discredited in 2008.

307 225 219 If some people didn't enable this crazy bitch,


Yeah, calling her a crazy bitch worked so well for you last time, why not keep it up, pure genius.

308  I don't want Coons to win. I want the crazy bitch to win. That doesn't change the fact that I am annoyed at having to endorse her probably futile effort.

Like I said earlier this week, if O'Donnell wins I will put "noted idiot" after my name on every post I make for the rest of the year.

Posted by: Chris R at September 19, 2010 05:26 PM (AO4qz)

I'm thinken it might be better for her if you worked on coons campaign.

309 I can't believe I've missed half the Jet game with this crap.

Wow, Moss torched Revis!

310 262 We will call off our purge when the moderates stop going independent, write in, and switching parties. How about that? LOL

Posted by: Dan at September 19, 2010 05:09 PM (1jzSs)

There's more than one "purge" going on.  If you're talking about removing candidates like Murkowski, that's one thing, although you had best be careful and do proper vetting of your replacement - you can wind up with a winner like Miller, but if you wind up with more O'Donnell's, you're going to get people complaining about how you're ruining chances for obtaining a majority, and those criticisms WILL be valid.

The other purge is what I'm talking about.  The idealogues, the "true conservatives", are trying to, or are at least eager to, purge the movement of anyone they view as.....not a "true conservative" (and as someone like Allahpundit has put it, "RINO" has been so broadly defined by them at this point that it includes Karl Rove and several NRO bloggers, basically anyone who questions O'Donnell's electability).  That's the rift I'm talking about.  That's madness.  Because this nation is CENTER-right.  If the true cons have their way, Republicans will be a permanent minority.  The reality is that you need the moderates and independents on your side.  And they're making it hard.

311

So you admit that you squishy moderate fucks are completely guided by your emotions.  Proving once again that you hand-wringers are 3/4 Liberal -loyal.  Thanks for confirming the obvious.

Posted by: Comapassionate Conservatism is Democrat Lite

If I were Nancy Pelosi's minion, how exactly could I do a better job at sowing dissension in the GOP ranks than this?  This is not a conservative, this is a egoist.  Hmmmmmm.

312 Like I said earlier this week, if O'Donnell wins I will put "noted idiot" after my name on every post I make for the rest of the year.

Posted by: Chris R at September 19, 2010 05:26 PM (AO4qz)

That's not necessary.

313 To the folks who are calling for banning: the fuck? This ain't LGF.

314
Posted by: A Liberal AoSHQ reader

One last question, and this is serious, not a baiting question like the last one.

What's your biggest disappointment with Obama, so far, if any?

315

If I could throw off this dirt, I'd be a vote for Christine.

And I know my Delaware.

316 Now I'm a troll?

Why? For disagreeing with you?

Posted by: Chris R at September 19, 2010 05:24 PM (AO4qz)

Possibly for not putting your hurt pride aside and focusing on helping the GOP win in November.  Everything you say about Castle and O'Donnell was valid BEFORE THE PRIMARY.  Unless you have a time machine and can cause the primary to be re-run, what you're saying about Castle and O'Donnell now has no bearing on victory in November.

Try putting all of your good arguments for choosing a winning candidate in a blue state on hold for a couple of months.  On Nov. 3rd, they'll all be valid again.

317 I do, however, begrudge dicks. Oh, man, Herr, you're killing me over here! I tell myself, "No cheap shots", and then you serve up a fat rainbow-pitch like that. Some comebacks that I considered: 1. "Gee, that's not what your johns tell me!" 2. "That's not the tune you were singing last night!" 3. "That might have been a big applause-line at the Gay Pride picnic, but it kind of falls flat here...." And et cetera. You know I have poor impulse control. If you expect me to behave properly in company, you have to stop instigating.

318

So what you are saying is

NEW JERSEY GOT RID OF ITS RINOS

AND VOTED FOR A CONSERVATIVE

I GOTCHA

319 337 Thank you. Every state is different. DE is to the left of NJ.

Wanna see a desert for Republicans? Check out Maryland.

320

317 Because you're acting like the most important thing in the world to you is to make sure O'Donnell isn't tainted by receiving any votes that aren't pure and principled.

 

Gee. That's strange. Because it's the squishy Candy-Ass Moderates who can't stop talking about O'Donnell's "crazy" moral views.

Like I said. Why are the moral relativist Moderates so obsessed with O'Donnell's personal views all of a sudden? I thought fiscal conservatism was the common denominator under The Big Circus Tent?

Golly. Moderate rules are so........squishy. 

321

The Dems have always quoted a lone Republican (or perhaps a few) to hurt someone else. Remember the Gang of 14? Or how about every time John McCain disagreed with President Bush?

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at September 19, 2010 05:25 PM (Yq+qN)

The issue with Rove though is that they are able to quote him from after the primary.  Really, after a primary you should not be able to find a prominent Republican criticizing a candidate.  It really serves no purpose that can be viewed as an overall positive effect.

322
Of course, Gabe, because he happens to agree with you.

But if it was the other way around...

323 What's your biggest disappointment with Obama, so far, if any?

That he didn't resign the first day in office.

324 Oh, man, Herr, you're killing me over here! I tell myself, "No cheap shots", and then you serve up a fat rainbow-pitch like that.

I ain't that stupid.  I pondered that potential reaction.  Right after I posted it.

Asshole.

325 RINO" has been so broadly defined by them at this point that it includes,,,, several NRO bloggers,


Half the editorial page of the New York Times consists of ex-NRO contributors, so that's a fair cop.

326 Lets see; Stimulus passed beacuse Snowe, Collins and Specter decided to vote for it.  Obamacare was able to get out of committe because of Snowe.  Financial Regulation passed thanks to Scott Brown.  Cap and Trade passed the House thanks in part to Castle.  Someone want to help expalin how the "moderates" help our side????  Better yet, are the moderates even on our side???

327 348 No conservative should tolerate a moderate R in Alaska. Delaware, yes. Maryland, yes. Mass? Yes.

This is why I HATE Lindsey Graham. A RINO like that from South Carolina is unacceptable.

328 Someone want to help expalin how the "moderates" help our side????  Better yet, are the moderates even on our side???

Posted by: Opus at September 19, 2010 05:33 PM (IebeI)

Hey but Castle voted with us when we didn't need him!

329 157 I think I have figured this out. RINOs only have one brain and since Karl Rove has lost control of it, all of the rest of the RINOs are fighting to see who gets to play with it next

bingo II!

330 339: My point exactly, these aren't national races. We have to go state by state. We need Millers in Alaska and Browns In Mass. Purge the red state RINOS before you worry about places like Delaware. Out of all the so called insurgent candidates who have won their senate primary this is the only one in a solid blue state. The rest are inn solid red or swing states. Consequently this is the only one many of us questioned. I fail to see how considering that fact equals being traitors or RINOs

331 225 219 If some people didn't enable this crazy bitch, Rove would not have to play damage control.

Just sayin'  .....

Posted by: Chris R at September 19, 2010 05:02 PM (AO4qz)

Sabotage is the new Damage Control!

Got it.

332 This isn't about pride. And for the millionth time, I want the GOP to WIN in November. That's why I supported Castle to begin with. If you are seriously concerned about seeing the GOP win, why do you support the election of a sure loser in O'Donnell?

O'Donnell supporters use logic that would baffle Spock.

333 360 I think there needs to be a ban on DE threads for a week. 

Posted by: toby928 at September 19, 2010 05:34 PM (S5YRY)

Want to enforce that in the comments too?

334

Exactly. Look how many people and publications were thrown overboard because they refused to jump on the O'Donnell purity express. Really? The Wall Street Journal editorial page is not fucking conservative enough for you? Really? The Weekly Standard is some bastion of moderate mushiness? I'd hate to see what a "pure" publication would look like.

 

None of those papers have anything to gain from the

SAME OLD SAME OLD GO ALONG TO GET ALONG BULLSHIT THAT WE ARE SEEING NOW

GREAT EXAMPLE

335  Consequently this is the only one many of us questioned. I fail to see how considering that fact equals being traitors or RINOs

Posted by: BSR at September 19, 2010 05:35 PM (mmr6o)

I don't care who you vote for or who you question before the primary. It's the friendly fire after the primary that is pathetic.

336 I'm sick that I have to support that crazy bitch! That crazy bitch is a crazy bitch, and, as everyone knows, crazy bitches are crazy bitches!  My mother supports the crazy bitch, but my mother is also a crazy bitch.  If you support the crazy bitch, you're a crazy bitch!  Argh!  Crazy bitch!

337

360 I think there needs to be a ban on DE threads for a week. 

 

Never happen. Too much traffic generated.

Besides, Moderates are on a principled mission for the first times in their squishy lives all of a sudden.

 

338 Can you really sabotage someone who most likely won't win? What Rove is doing is basically letting the air out of the tires of a car with a blown engine.

339

I fail to see how considering that fact equals being traitors or RINOs

Posted by: BSR at September 19, 2010 05:35 PM (mmr6o)

The way some people are acting you'd think the bloggers had said "We need to support Lindsey Graham because he is the most conservative candidate we are likely to get in South Carolina"

340 Also, why should anybody think that what Billl Maher releases of O'Donnell be acurate.  He is the only person who has access to the video footage, and he is going to edit the crap out of it for maximum effect to satisfy his partisan agenda.  I love how everybody is just taking what was released as gospel, and not worried at all about context. 

341 370 I see no moderates here. I see practical conservatives warring with impractical conservatives.

342 Can you really sabotage someone who most likely won't win? What Rove is doing is basically letting the air out of the tires of a car with a blown engine.

Posted by: Chris R at September 19, 2010 05:38 PM (AO4qz)

Gawd, you are retarded.  What Rove is doing is pissing in the gas tank, over and over because his neighbor won't let him drive the car and he feel entitled to it.

343 371 Can you really sabotage someone who most likely won't win? What Rove is doing is basically letting the air out of the tires of a car with a blown engine.

Posted by: Chris R at September 19, 2010 05:38 PM (AO4qz)

Blown engines don't win primaries against incumbents from their own party. She is certainly stronger than Castle, THE LOSER.

344 I haven't bashed COD at all, in fact I think I offered her some good strategic advice upthread. I AM bashing the more exceptionally dickish of her supporters. I hope she wins by 20 fucking points.

345

If the Idiot that wrote that article knew who Maynard Keynes was he could have made the point that there is

NO WAY KEYNESIAN POLICIES WILL NOT!!! WORK UNDER OUR CURRENT LAXED IMAGRATION LAWS

346 I see no moderates here. I see practical conservatives warring with impractical conservatives.

Posted by: Chris R at September 19, 2010 05:40 PM (AO4qz)

I see dead people and trolls

347

304 This is a hog-killing.

Now we see cadre of people who consider themselves our moral and intellectual superiors, who for so long stood over us with a whip and dictated to us how it was going to be, and they're running around and screeching like a bunch of stuck pigs.

Why would we make it stop?

That isn't a stand on principle; it's blood-lust and blood-sport. While it feels good for a time, it isn't a long-term strategy. We should be supporting conservative candidates because of the fact they are conservative, not to see the elitists scream.

348  
Mike Castle was also a big supporter of federal funding for Embryonic Stem Cell Research:

http://tinyurl.com/26vze87

That would have been nice to know before the primary, but it's further proof that we dodged a bullet by having O'Donnell dump this statist creep.

Here's an interview Castle gave the WaPo back in July, in which Castle vows not to be in opposition to Obama should he win the DE Senate seat:

http://tinyurl.com/296fk73

Anyone who's been deluding themselves that Castle would have been a vote to repeal Obamacare can just go ahead and disabuse themselves of that notion right now.

349 This blog, which I like for much. It is both entertaining and informative a few weeks before made a point that in Alaska "the people have spoken" and rightly so, in regard to Joe Miller. I think the same applies here. The people have spoken.

350 @343 I didn't take the first question as baiting.

Health care is, for lack of a not-already-used-phrase, a super-fat BFD to me. There's no getting around that.

To answer the other question, I think it's debatable whether or not Obama's policies made things worse. What would have happened without the stimulus? Now we're into Keynesian vs. Austrian economics, but I think things would have been worse without it. A tougher question - what would have happened without the bank bailouts? You know, the ones that everybody hates, me included?

I happen to think that the key to the recession is that housing hasn't bottomed out yet. So to answer your other question about Obama disappointments, the HAMP program really sucked. It basically temporarily extended the mortgages of people who were upside-down, and then left them in the same spot months later, without any meaningful restructuring of the debt. So they got suckered into paying a few more installments without a way to get back in the game, when they really should have just walked away and taken the hit earlier if it was gonna go down like that. Mortgages are a two-way street, bank and homeowners. Both took the risk. The HAMP program seems to be insulating the banks somehow - not the intended effect.

There you go, a good faith effort.

Now, the reason that housing sucks is because people don't have JOBS. I'm all for another infrastucture-jobs stimulus bill, a big one, to get that going while the rest of the bad housing debt on the books unwinds, which I feel will take another year or two.

Again, I didn't really come in today to start a debate, but I wanted to at least answer your question.

351 I haven't bashed COD at all, in fact I think I offered her some good strategic advice upthread. I AM bashing the more exceptionally dickish of her supporters. I hope she wins by 20 fucking points.

Posted by: BSR at September 19, 2010 05:40 PM (mmr6o)

Maybe, but you lumped yourself in with a bunch of handwringers with a fear of cheeseburgers, bowling and teen age witches.

352

Personal Moral issues are not relative to Republican Candidates. All that matters under The Big Circus Tent is Fiscal Conservative Policies.

What? CASTLE LOST?!!!

O'Donnell's a crazy bitch. A CRAZY BITCH I TELL YOU!!!!

353

The reason Keynes policies wont work right now. Is because construction money is not going into local economies and cannot go into local economies if the WORKERS being hired for those jobs

ARE NOT FROM THIS COUNTRY AND ARE SENDING THIER PAYCHECKS TO MEXICO

thats what was missing from that article

354 "however, if the O'Donnell folks could call off their purge, it would be much easier to make this race about Coons and not Castle."

Amen. We get it. She won. Now let's get back to the business of beating democrats. We just gave them a free week fighting amongst ourselves.

355 I think that's unfair to Angle personally. While I wasn't for her in the primary she did have an actual record in the legislature, ect. She also didn't spend her whole campaign on bashing "RINO moderate establishments", wasn't afraid to bring in Washington GOP consultants to help her out, and has improved dramatically as a candidate.   One reason I have been so in for Christine O'Donnell is that I know, from living here in Reno, just how big the lies are that were told about Sharron Angle.  I've met her before, and she is quite likeable.  She is not some judgemental "American Gothic" type.   Remember the whole thing about massages for drug addicts from the Scientologists?  To hear the Two Minute Hates from Mao Tse-Reid and his subhuman followers, she was some gullible idiot that believed in superstitious nonsense.    In reality, she is that rare politician who actually takes the country's problems seriously, and wants to solve them.  If, as is 99% likely, the massage treatment turned out to be bullshit, well, no harm done, except to her own reputation, which is her last concern.  If the 1% chance comes through, people who would otherwise be doomed to a lifelong hell of addiction can live productive lives, and their potential victims are not victims after all, well, she's done some good.   Apparently, the 99% chance won out, because she never touched the whole massage thing again.  But she at least let the Scientologists make their case.   Seeing how Angle's attempts to take a chance to, maybe, help people in need was turned around into an evil smear by Benedict Reid, I have a hard time taking the anti-O'Donnell attacks seriously.

356 213 199 The voters would have made the wiser choice had they not been deluged by bullshit from the likes of Levin, Hoft and Riehl. The primary was nationalized. The people of Delaware haven't spoken, they were led astray by outside forces who don't have a single clue as to what's really important to the people who live in DE.

Posted by: Chris R at September 19, 2010 04:59 PM (AO4qz)

I don't have dog in this hunt other than I want the Rs to take all seats possible in the general. This is all a hell of a lot of arguing over how many witches can dance on the head of a pin from where I sit.

Regarding the comment quoted above, you could just as easily make the same statement about the 2008 presidential election. Just change The people of Delaware to read The US voters -- no "casual" voter got any information that wasn't first thoroughly vetted by the DNC by way of the MFM.

357 Sorry about the lack of paragraphs on that last post.  It's my computer's fault, not mine.

358 The way some people are acting you'd think the bloggers had said "We need to support Lindsey Graham John McCain because he is the most conservative candidate we are likely to get in South Carolina the White House"

359 Sorry about the lack of paragraphs on that last post.  It's my computer's fault, not mine.

Posted by: Ken at September 19, 2010 05:47 PM (CDrOo)

apple huh

360 Also, why should anybody think that what Billl Maher releases of O'Donnell be acurate.  He is the only person who has access to the video footage, and he is going to edit the crap out of it for maximum effect to satisfy his partisan agenda.  I love how everybody is just taking what was released as gospel, and not worried at all about context. 

Posted by: Opus at September 19, 2010 05:39 PM (IebeI)

Context? Yeah wow! You wouldn't think that would not be a lot to ask for from blogs saying they support a candidate would you? They did say "It's old" though so that's something. It's a new wave, minimalist kind of context though. AoSHQ Across the 8th Dimension kind of thing.

361 Purge? How dramatic.

362

I've said several times I want O'Donnell to win. Now let me ask you this, is winning or barely losing the election in Delaware and acceptable price to pay for losing 2-3 other seats we could have won if we hadn't focused so hard on Delaware?

Like I said, she deserves our support but it should be the support she deserves. Which would be that of a candidate 10 points down in a blue state.

Posted by: buzzion at September 19, 2010 05:18 PM (oVQFe)

As it happens, the intense scrutiny on the Delaware election actually HELPS other GOP candidates around the nation. Note that nobody in the MSM is pushing the "Angle is a criminal-massaging Scientologist" or "Rand Paul hates the Civil Rights Act" stories anymore. They are focused on this one target because they believe that defeating O'Donnell will vindicate their entire narrative about the TEA Parties and Sarah Palin being toxic to Republicans.

What they've forgotten is that as they focus on taking down O'Donnell, the rest of the candidates that were endorsed by the TEA Parties or Palin or both are actually doing pretty well. They may end up cheering on seeing the one little spot of Delaware blue on the electoral map on Election Night, right up until they see the tide of red sweeping over the rest of the country.

From WSJ Best of the Web, Sept. 17:

We wonder, though, if--assuming O'Donnell does lose in November--it might not be the Democrats who have a Pyrrhic victory. Reader Joel Dorman offers this recollection of 1994, when Sen. Charles Robb, a Virginia Democrat, was re-elected:

"I remember Oliver North being the big media focus. If you recall he lost and the live election night coverage was almost celebratory. Plus it happened early in the evening because the Virginia polls were some of the first to close. Then after of few hours of celebrating, they began to realize the Republicans were going to have a big night and they were all very shocked that a party that had Ollie North in it was actually winning elections across the country. It took every network a solid two hours to get the ship turned to the real story. Perhaps Christine O'Donnell will be this year's Ollie North."

And if O'Donnell is this year's Ollie North, then Sharron Angle won't be. Angle, you'll recall, supplanted Rand Paul as the media's designated "extremist," and Paul is now a comfortable favorite, with a 90.9% chance of winning, according to FiveThirtyEight.com, a division of the New York Times. FTE ranks Angle as a very slight favorite, at 52.4%.

Meanwhile, no one's talking about Wisconsin, where another Tea Party favorite, Ron Johnson, was nominated Tuesday to face Sen. Russ Feingold. FTE.com rates Feingold a 2-to-1 favorite, but that was before a Rasmussen Reports poll, out this morning, which has Johnson up 51% to 44% over Feingold.

363 395 The way some people are acting you'd think the bloggers had said "We need to support Lindsey Graham John McCain because he is the most conservative candidate we are likely to get in South Carolina the White House"

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at September 19, 2010 05:48 PM (U/eda)

In the general election yeah that was the case.  But not the primaries.  Which is my point.

364  That isn't a stand on principle; it's blood-lust and blood-sport. While it feels good for a time, it isn't a long-term strategy. We should be supporting conservative candidates because of the fact they are conservative, not to see the elitists scream.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby
 
Yes I'm enjoing myself somewhat. But there's a larger issue here.

This whole Delaware Imbroglio points to the existence of a cadre of establishment Republicans who are willing to go behind the backs of the Conservative base and make back room deals with Democrats.

When it comes to rolling back Obama's legislation, these are the same people who will argue the case for "moderation" and "pragmatism"- ultimately scutlling a real chance to repeal these monstrosities and deal a death blow to Liberalism.

That's why I think we shouldn't just move on from this. Whatever agenda was at work signified by the actions of the DE GOP, and people like Rove and former staffers dumping on O'Donnell needs to be scrutinized. The same people who attempted to screw us over Delaware will attempt to screw us again, in a much more massive  way, when it comes to rally support for the repeal of these various bills.

365

apple huh

No, it's an HP.  I don't know what went wrong there.

366 The way some people are acting you'd think the bloggers had said "We need to support Lindsey Graham John McCain because he is the most conservative candidate we are likely to get in South Carolina the White House"

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at September 19, 2010 05:48 PM (U/eda)

Saying that about McCain would have been just stupid on Jan. 1, 2008.  Of course, by Nov. 1, 2008, it was absolutely true -- so long as it was amended, "because between him and Obama, he is the most conservative candidate we are likely to get...."

367

"O'Donnell supporters use logic that would baffle Spock."

Yeah, so did Kirk.  That's how he defeated Nomad and V'ger and Landru, among others.

368 That's why I think we shouldn't just move on from this. Whatever agenda was at work signified by the actions of the DE GOP, and people like Rove and former staffers dumping on O'Donnell needs to be scrutinized. The same people who attempted to screw us over Delaware will attempt to screw us again, in a much more massive  way, when it comes to rally support for the repeal of these various bills.

Posted by: sartana at September 19, 2010 05:54 PM (oguG

Put it on hold until Nov. 3rd.  We have a different battle to fight between now and then.

369 399 I,ve thought about that, it certainly takes heat off Paul and Angle

370

"O'Donnell supporters use logic that would baffle Spock."

Yeah, so did Kirk.  That's how he defeated Nomad and V'ger and Landru, among others.

Posted by: notropis at September 19, 2010 05:55 PM (cjcCc)

O'Donnell is a wreath of pretty flowers that smell bad.

371 213 199 The voters would have made the wiser choice had they not been deluged by bullshit from the likes of Levin, Hoft and Riehl. The primary was nationalized. The people of Delaware haven't spoken, they were led astray by outside forces who don't have a single clue as to what's really important to the people who live in DE.

i wouldn't know since i don't live in DE, but i'd be inclined to give more respect to  the actual voters who live there (understanding that the media is constantly telling us what a "blue" state DE is). 

2010 may prove to be a watershed year when many things are turned on their heads.  we will see . . .

372

Moderates only call for "moderation" from Conservatives.

They NEVER call on the Democrat Party of Libtards to "moderate" their Socialist ass-rape of this country. They only ask the Marxist bastards to slow down their pace so our assholes can adjust to the reaming. 

Might considerate of the squishy fucks.

Ain't it.

373

Well for all you MCCAIN supporters and RINOs

here is a little statistic that might sober you up.

In 2000 40% of the houston independent school district was white

ten years later that number has dwindled to 8%

 

374 I,ve thought about that, it certainly takes heat off Paul and Angle

Posted by: BSR at September 19, 2010 05:57 PM (mmr6o)

Plus, with her massive fundraising since the primary, O'Donnell forces the Democrats to direct even more attention and resources against her.  She's drawing more and more of their fire away from other races.

375 342 To the folks who are calling for banning: the fuck? This ain't LGF.

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at September 19, 2010 05:30 PM (1TvCg)

I apologize Gabe, I worded that poorly. There will doubtless be a thread or threads for results on election night, and I suggest an armistice of sorts, that the Castle/O'Donnell flame warriors not be allowed to take it over, with a threat of temporary banishment (like one day) for anyone attempting to do so by fanning the flames with an "I told you so" thread. Or maybe give them their own thread.

These are just suggestions, it's not my decision obviously. But am I the only one tired of the endless rehashing of this issue?

 

376 The Reps are ahead or with-in the error bars in all their expected holds and pick-ups, and the Dems are safe in the states where the Reps didn't even bother to put up a fight (thanks for the big no effort Rudy).

Pretty much all that's left for the 4th quarter push is Delaware. Heck, even W. VA and Conn are looking pretty good at this point.

That is why, personal grudges aside, this race is getting so much attention. It's one of the few states were the real war is still going on.

In a sane world, we would be donating heavily and tearing each other to shreds in the comment sections over the races that are within the MOE and winnable instead of fighting over a crazy bitch who admitted 10 years ago that she had a bloody midnight picnic on a satanic altar, ran a dirty campaign, has a questionable record and has lost repeatedly. But this is a "wave" year!

377 410, They have all moved out to the surrounding cities.

378 for crying out loud, can we save this venom for the other side.

379

No they have not the ratio of white student per capita hasent fallin off

there has been a serge of hispanic students into the system thanks to the santuary city policies we have

go to craigs list right now

click over to houston and look under retail management and see if you can find a management position that

DOES NOT REQUIRE YOU TO BE BILINGUAL

380 Moderates only call for "moderation" from Conservatives.

Is it too much to ask for moderation in blue states? Last I checked, imposing a radical and authoritarian nationalist political ideology was called fascism.

381

In 2000 40% of the houston independent school district was white

ten years later that number has dwindled to 8%

Your point?  Oh, that's right, to do your master's bidding.  How is Nancy?

382

Is it too much to ask for moderation in blue states? Last I checked, imposing a radical and authoritarian nationalist political ideology was called fascism.

Oh that's just silly.

Think BIG TENT! BIG TENT!

Oh and, O'Donell's a CRAZY BITCH!

 

383 Tatoo,  the people in delaware voted her in. so it's their vote, right? our arguments on Ace of Spades aside.

384 378 She won because outside forces poured money and effort into the race at the last moment. Castle had a comfortable lead before the Mark Levins of the world discovered her.

385

hell, i feel like singing, "why can't we be friends"

Let's grab our anger and go after the damn jerk Coons and friends.

386

OK PEPI

you win its all yours you can have it

Im going to move to Canada (and I fucking hate  canadians) or any other country who is not stupid enough to allow illegal aliens to give birth to CITIZENS

and pepi .... good luck with your spanish lessons

387 Tatoo,  the people in delaware voted her in. so it's their vote, right?

6% more Republicans voted for her in DE, but they are a minority in the overall make-up of the state. Even with former Castle supporters on board, without independents and some Democrats she will lose. It will be the people of DE, who are insufficiently pure in their conservatism, who will defeat her. Unless I'm wrong.

388

this is bizzare.

 

389 Again, I didn't really come in today to start a debate, but I wanted to at least answer your question.

I like the fact that at least some liberal people can read Ace of Spades for the humor value (which is very real, independent of politics).  FWIW I spend a ton of time on Daily Kos (reading the diaries too...I do so ever love watching them flip out about Ron Johnson; it's such a wonderful bellwether).

390

I do, however, begrudge dicks.

Herr, you ol' dick begrudger.

Which if said fast sounds like "hairy old..."

Damn, that's a new nick just waiting for the right moron.

391

 Castle had a comfortable lead before the Mark Levins of the world discovered her.

And informed people of his record.  Your "she cheated so it doesn't count" bullshit is straight out of the Dem playbook.

392

Tatoo, , I hear ya. Still they wanted something more than they were getting. Let's try to back them in their endeavor?

I dunno, really I don't want to fight about this ,  she's already the candidate,

might have been unwise i honestly don't know, but let's not eat eachother up here.

we are truly on the same team.  and that isn't specifically to you.  We need all of our energy to fight the bastards that are destroying our country. and i don't think that is hyperbole.

393

She won because outside forces poured money and effort into the race at the last moment. Castle had a comfortable lead before the Mark Levins of the world discovered her.

 

Uhm Kos?

Is that you?

394

As it happens, the intense scrutiny on the Delaware election actually HELPS other GOP candidates around the nation. Note that nobody in the MSM is pushing the "Angle is a criminal-massaging Scientologist" or "Rand Paul hates the Civil Rights Act" stories anymore. They are focused on this one target because they believe that defeating O'Donnell will vindicate their entire narrative about the TEA Parties and Sarah Palin being toxic to Republicans.

Its also possible that those stories have gotten all the push they can from the MFM and they are just moving on to the next target.  And yeah you're right its taking them out of the media scrutiny spotlight, but what about the support spotlight?  O'Donnell's raised what like $2 million in a week?  Do you think she's the only one that could use that?  Is everyone who's donated to her also donated to the other candidates?

395

Put it on hold until Nov. 3rd.  We have a different battle to fight between now and then.

Posted by  stuiec

 I realize that's a polite of telling me to pound sand, but I think  I should remind you that-

THE REPUBLICAN PARTY OF DELAWARE CURRENTLY HAS AN FEC COMPLAINT LODGED AGAINST ITS OWN NOMINEE FOR US SENATE

Am I to believe the Coons campaign it going to ignore this and not make an issue of it over the next month?

O'Donnell should make the shady dealings between the DE GOP,the White House and high-level GOP hacks like Rove a central part of her campaign- much like Palin won the Governorship in Alaska on weeding out corruption. It's impossible to ignore and it's a winning strategy.

396

As it happens, the intense scrutiny on the Delaware election actually HELPS other GOP candidates around the nation. Note that nobody in the MSM is pushing the "Angle is a criminal-massaging Scientologist" or "Rand Paul hates the Civil Rights Act" stories anymore. They are focused on this one target because they believe that defeating O'Donnell will vindicate their entire narrative about the TEA Parties and Sarah Palin being toxic to Republicans.

Got news for you:  as far ahead as Republicans are now, any candidates we're talking about will be more marginal.  If the spotlight weren't on O'Donnell, it would be on Raese in WV or Huffman in OR.  It may well be on them by the time this is over.  In January 2009, Republicans expected to lose seats.  Vitter, Bunning, and Burr were considered goners, and there was speculation that Coburn might retire out of frustration.

397
Ok, now Rove is on the Sunday shows attacking O'Donnell for the witchcraft bullshit:

http://tinyurl.com/28n4rq4

No we cannot get along. Stick these fucking pigs till they stop squealing.

398 285 I'm from Jersey originally. I know Delaware pretty well. If O'Donnell wins, it's a red wave perfect storm that carries her over. If not, that's Delware for you.

makes sense to me

399 Hmmmm.

@ Malor

"As a gesture, however, if the O'Donnell folks could call off their purge, it would be much easier to make this race about Coons and not Castle."

It's not a purge.  It's simple.  You advocated that conservative must support candidates that they don't like because said candidate won the primary.  Now you're being held to that same standard.  Don't like it?  Don't care.

Either buck up and deal with it or the next time you try and push that shit sandwich I'll be there to remind you of this.

400 I guess I don't buy into this whole idea that there's something magically "liberal" about Delaware that causes people there to ignore the fact that we're in Great Depression 2.0.  I don't like liberals, but I suspect that they hate being out of work as much as conservatives, even if Christine O'Donnell's ex was a Slayer fan.

401

I wished I lived in Delaware.  Then I could vote for that loopy post-wiccan lady over the communist that would bankrupt our country.

 

 

402 If you're right about the collusion, sartana, I'm sure O'Donnell will make it an issue.  Conversely, if she doesn't, I'm going to accept it as proof positive that you're talking out your ass.

403

"I get a kick out of all the experts whining about O' Donnell being down 11 points. I didn't hear that so much when Rubio..."

"She's no Rubio."

I've known Marco for going on 8 years, and not only is the comparison laughable, it's so far-out absurd as to be borderline offensive.

DELAWARE IS NOT FLORIDA!

Not all states are alike. Delaware is a bastion of the Democratic party and it's center-left. Mark Rubio would probably lose if he were running there.

Almost definitely.  He's a great candidate, a great guy and a great fit for Florida, but he's just about as right-wing as you can get and still be electable statewide IN FLORIDA.  If he were, say "Mark Roberts" with the exact same views and couldn't count on as solid support from the Cubans, it'd be even more uphill.  In Delaware he'd have next to zero chance.

That said, if he were to GOP nominee this year in Delaware and I lived there, of course I'd vote for him, as I would for O'Donnell.  I thought there WERE credible arguments to be made for Castle, but that fight is OVER, and people who are proclaiming themselves morally superior (or whatever) to voting for her are effectively voting for Coons.

404
Either buck up and deal with it or the next time you try and push that shit sandwich I'll be there to remind you of this.

posted by memomachine

And you know there will be a next time. Each time they get clobbered, only to call truce, scurry away and try to pull it again. No more truces.

405

Moderates are nothing more than Liberals who want to keep the free market around.

Period.

406  

Hey Phil Smith , go get bent. Reports of the collusion that went on are all over the blogosphere and the airwaves. Pull it out and open your eyes.

Now come over here and stroke my jib.

407 I'm a conservative in Delaware. I will vote for O'Donnell on 11/2. In the meantime, I will be volunteering my time and $$ to the campaign of Glen Urquhart, who is the conservative running for Castle's House seat. I urge all who have been commenting here in the last two weeks about the DE Senate race to devote their time and $$ to support conservatives running for Congress to represent them. 'Nuff said.

408 there's something magically "liberal" about Delaware

Joe Biden beat Christine O'Donnell by 30 pts in 2008 and remains wildly popular there.

409

Almost definitely.  He's a great candidate, a great guy and a great fit for Florida, but he's just about as right-wing as you can get and still be electable statewide IN FLORIDA.  If he were, say "Mark Roberts" with the exact same views and couldn't count on as solid support from the Cubans, it'd be even more uphill.  In Delaware he'd have next to zero chance.

Nevada is to the left of Florida, but Sharron Angle will win here.  She wouldn't have had a chance in 2004, but we didn't have 14% unemployment in 2004 either. 

Christine O'Donnell won't win because of some Machiavellian strategy perfectly matching her to Delaware.  She'll win because she's talking about jobs while the creeps trying to destroy her--of both parties--are talking about masturbation and witchcraft.  Liberals and conservatives both hate being unemployed.

410 O'Donnell should make the shady dealings between the DE GOP,the White House and high-level GOP hacks like Rove a central part of her campaign

That sounds like a conspiracy theory to me. Palin caught people red-handed in corrupt activities and resigned her post to avoid a conflict of interests when she blew the whistle.

411

446 Joe Biden beat Christine O'Donnell by 30 pts in 2008 and remains wildly popular there.

And then came the ass-raping of America known as The Obama Agenda.

The Times They Are A Changing.

412

Joe Biden beat Christine O'Donnell by 30 pts in 2008 and remains wildly popular there.

He's wildly popular, and it was a Democrat wave year.  Yet she performed almost as well as McCain.

Coons would win in 2008 or 2006.  But this year it's not about liberal vs. conservative, it's about the Obama Depression.

413 Wow, sartana, I'm agreeing with you that O'Donnell, in your words, "should make it an issue".  She should get out there and present actual evidence.  Otherwise, rational people will doubt her.  Now, you could present evidence other than her unsupported claims, or you can continue to yap like a little toothless dog.

I'm pretty certain I know which path you'll choose.

414

That sounds like a conspiracy theory to me.

posted by: Tattoo De Plane

About three weeks ago, it would have to me also. But as conspiracies go, this is not at all improbable. Here's an article by Eric Erickson at Red State from early August which discusses the rumors of collusion that were swirling around even then about the shady dealings going on over this Senate seat:

http://tinyurl.com/2e4kdxl

Erickson doesn't provide any proof, citing only trusted sources, but this is a scenario I began suspecting about a week ago myself- and I've seen similar allegations made by bloggers and blog commenters all over the net.

I'll repeat that the Delaware GOP still has an FEC claim lodged against their nominee, O'Donnell. That fact alone proves that some pretty nasty shit was going on over there- not to mention the continued attacks from the Right. Even if it were desirable to sweep it under the rug and move on, I think there's no way O'Donnell can avoid making this an issue.

415 It has been the O'Donnell supporters that have been throwing the venom around not the other way around ...

you johnny come lately shits couldn't have picked O'Donnell out of a line up 30 days ago are acting like you have always been a fan ...  pure BS and you know it ...

416 I think one reason people are so upset is that people think that the outcome of the Delaware Senate race will determine control of the Senate.  I'm sorry to say that that is probably not the case anyway.

To win the Senate, the R's have to take 10 of the following 13 seats:
CA, NV, WA, CO, ND, AR, IL, WI, IN, WV, PA, DE, CT
3 of these are locks (ND, AR, IN), and another one of these is looking good (PA), but all the rest are very very iffy, even if you throw out DE.

I'd also point out that the only reason people got hopeful that the Senate was in play in the first place was because of Castle.  Without Castle, DE is just another blue state to us.  MD, NY, VT and OR have Senate races too but those are a lock for the D's and there is no wailing and gnashing of teeth over it, even though those could, in principle, determine control of the Senate as well.  That's because they were out of reach from the beginning.  Now that seems to be the case for DE as well - oh well, we just have to work harder at the remaining seats in play.

417 357 he idealogues, the "true conservatives", are trying to, or are at least eager to, purge the movement of anyone they view as.....not a "true conservative"

Exactly. Look how many people and publications were thrown overboard because they refused to jump on the O'Donnell purity express. Really? The Wall Street Journal editorial page is not fucking conservative enough for you? Really? The Weekly Standard is some bastion of moderate mushiness? I'd hate to see what a "pure" publication would look like.

Posted by: Chris in Va at September 19, 2010 05:33 PM (uCjoj)

You have.  It's called "World Net Daily".  Lots of wonderful talk about birtherism and condemning Ann Coulter for being okay with gay people.

418 Erickson doesn't provide any proof, citing only trusted sources

I'm not being a smartass when I ask if you're aware that Erickson isn't exactly known for his veracity?  He recently stated that he had proof that he knew that Will Folks was lying about having banged Nikki Haley, that he (Erickson) knew that Folks had been paid off to make the claims, and that he had proof of who had paid Folks.  Turned out to be all bullshit, and I for one don't believe anything the silly bastard says.  I don't believe Will Folks either, but Erickson is a fool.  Too bad, too, because I really like Moe Lane.

I'll repeat that the Delaware GOP still has an FEC claim lodged against their nominee, O'Donnell.

You see that as an indictment against the DE GOP, and maybe it is.  It's not a negative against them if it's true, though.  I see it as a big fucking red flag about a woman who has been caught telling some real tall ones already.

Oh well, God bless her if she can win.

419 409

Moderates only call for "moderation" from Conservatives.

They NEVER call on the Democrat Party of Libtards to "moderate" their Socialist ass-rape of this country. They only ask the Marxist bastards to slow down their pace so our assholes can adjust to the reaming. 

Might considerate of the squishy fucks.

Ain't it.

Posted by: Moderately Pissed at September 19, 2010 06:00 PM (wFMDa)

Categorically untrue.

I know that you NEED it to be true, because then it justifies the pretty egregious behavior of the "true conservatives" this past week.

I consider myself a moderate, but I've opposed the Democrats on pretty much every major issue they've got their claws in the last two years.  That joke of a "stimulus", Health Care, the takeover of the auto industry, the bank regulation bill, etc.  The only thing they've done which I actually agree with is ending DADT, and they're kind of screwing that up by attaching it to a defense appropriations bill.

I've never approved of their socialism.  The main reason why I want Republicans to take the majority is so that they can stop the Democrats.  But I've been repeatedly told by "true conservatives" that a Republican majority with a FEW RINOs isn't a majority worth owning, even if it will mean stopping the Democrat agenda.  I say that's madness.

420

Except it does matter.

If I was a Delaware voter, I'd just stay home.  I don't want Coons to win; but I don't think she deserves to win either.  Considering I expect Coons to win pretty easily anyway, there's not much of a moral dilemma here.

Posted by: Vyceroy at September 19, 2010 04:18 PM (X763u)

Then stay home. I'll be an adult and vote for her.

421

457 But I've been repeatedly told by "true conservatives" that a Republican majority with a FEW RINOs isn't a majority worth owning, even if it will mean stopping the Democrat agenda.  I say that's madness.

A FEW RINO'S gave us the Compassionate Conservatism of Bush 43.

And THAT in turn gave us Obama.

A FEW RINO'S is like saying- Hey, a FEW TERMITES.

Stop the rot and clean out the Big Tent. If you are a Moderate, then moderate your views towards "true conservatism" or leave the Party. The choice is yours.

 

422  

Phil, I only linked to that one post at Red State as a means of proving that my posts are not merely the ramblings of one lone crank. As I said, the internet and talk radio is rife with talk of the type of collusion Erickson was writing about- and his article is from early August, so it's not some puffery concocted in the last days of a particularly bitter primary race.

There have comments here on AOSHQ from residents of Delaware and surroundings that attest to rumors of such shady goings on.

We can each interpret the FEC complaint in our own way, but I think it shows that some  of O'Donnell's opponents are dirty rat bastards who would go to any length to get that seat.

423

59 If I was a Delaware voter, I'd just stay home.  I don't want Coons to win; but I don't think she deserves to win either.  Considering I expect Coons to win pretty easily anyway, there's not much of a moral dilemma here.

And with that- you've just demonstrated that you Moderates can't be depended upon when your Big Tent isn't filled the way you like it.

You're nothing but a Liberal who doesn't want to destroy the free market system- yet.

Just join the Democrats already, so you can infect their Socialist agenda with your squishy rot.

424  

Did  Karl Rove serve in any capacity as a partisan for Mike Castle?

Here's a post from Michelle Malkin about allegations from the Tea Party in Delaware that, last winter, Rove scheduled a meeting with them and attempted to persuade them to drop O'Donnell and throw their support to Castle.

http://tinyurl.com/28u6nw9

Is this at all related to Rove's continuing efforts to dash O'Donnell's bid for the Senate?

425 Moderates are liberals with a tight wallet.

426 O'Donnell doesn't have a chance. She NEVER had a chance.

427 Is this at all related to Rove's continuing efforts to dash O'Donnell's bid for the Senate?

I wish they'd listened to him. She is a train wreck in slow motion.

428 We can each interpret the FEC complaint in our own way

The FEC is nonpartisan, and all this conspiratorial talk just makes Democrats look better by comparison. Don't think they don't do this shit, too. You have to enforce the rules, and parties should promote the most electable candidate.

429 I'd also point out that the only reason people got hopeful that the Senate was in play in the first place was because of Castle.  Without Castle, DE is just another blue state to us.  MD, NY, VT and OR have Senate races too but those are a lock for the D's and there is no wailing and gnashing of teeth over it, even though those could, in principle, determine control of the Senate as well.  That's because they were out of reach from the beginning.  Now that seems to be the case for DE as well - oh well, we just have to work harder at the remaining seats in play.

Posted by: chemjeff at September 19, 2010 07:31 PM (E97ku)

That's what I've been saying, too, but I should "just go join the Democrats." I can't vote in DE. I think sending her money is like flushing it down the drain. But people in DE who can vote for her, hold your nose and do it. If you really believe she's a good candidate, enthusiastically support her. But thinking she's nuts is a logical conclusion. I think money would be better spent on closer contests, instead of just expecting those to magically win.

430 And then came the ass-raping of America known as The Obama Agenda.

Except in DE, a majority of the population likes the Obama agenda.

431 The people promoting the purge aren't O'Donnell's campaign supporters from DE, they know they cannot win without most Castle voters on their side.  It's her late out-of-state-excited-by-blog-reports supporters, who are mainly keen to purge anyone who doesn't support their specific agenda 100% and all of the time.  This movement is being taken over by a tiny minority of extremely loud, extremely passionate, and extremely vengeful extremists, many of them refugees from the Libertines or the Buchanazis, trying to sneak in the back door to take over both the Tea Party movement and the Republican Party.

If they destroy both in the process, that's okay by them.

432 The FEC is nonpartisan, and all this conspiratorial talk just makes Democrats look better by comparison.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane

You've misunderstood something, Mr.de Plane. The complaint was lodged with the FEC by the Republican Party of Delaware. This is not an instance of the FEC alleging wrongdoing by the O'Donnell campaign. Here's a post from Stacy McCain on that:

http://tinyurl.com/3x7jxls

Remember, the during the '08 campaign, Obama disabled the credit verification software on his website, facilitating how many tens of millions in possible illegal donations. Neither the RNC, nor the McCain campaign issued a peep about this- even though this fact was well reported on months before the election.

Yet the same gutless ankle-biters now want to attack the Tea Party and a conservative Republican nominee for Senate- this shows exactly where their heads are at, and that this is about much more than just sour grapes.