1 The Lautenberg gambit?

2 He is now pinching the heads off of kittehs in the mall.

3

The location and timing for Sunday's announcement — a heated beer garden at a Chicago bar during the Super Bowl — perplexed some patrons who were trying to watch the New Orleans Saints take on the Indianapolis Colts.

Snort.

4

Cohen's resignation from the ticket means state party leaders can replace him on the ballot.

"Now we can move on to find a strong replacement," said Steve Brown, spokesman for the Illinois Democratic chairman, House Speaker Michael Madigan.

Hello? Assholes? I finished second. WTF!?!?!?

5

I mean, can you imagine trying to watch the game and have a beer and some loser politician is babbling on, apologizing to his family and shit?

 

6 These assholes can't even quit right.

7 I mean, can you imagine trying to watch the game and have a beer and some loser politician is babbling on, apologizing to his family and shit?

Well, if it were Obama announcing he was stepping down, I would LOVE IT.

8 Scott Lee Cohen, loser.

How pathetic it must be to announce your withdrawal in bar packed with people just wanting to watch the Super Bowl.

9 Will he recant this as just another drunken escapade?

10 I'm just thankful he didn't try to punch out one of the female bar tenders.

11 @10 - It's not last call yet, there's still time

12 Amazing that, for once, we don't have to play the Name That Party game.

Although I find it interesting about them having to point out that the woman's throat he put the knife to (allegedly) was a prostitute (allegedly).

13 I'm confused.  How many children do you have to murder and consume before you're unfit to be a Democrat candidate for anything?

14 Hmm....state party leaders get to select a new candidate.  Madigan is the Speaker of the House in Illinois; in effect, the leader of the party.  His daughter, Lisa, is the Attorney General.

Primaries in Illinois can be a little...er....messy, as well as expensive.

Oh, and Lisa announced that she wasn't making a run for the Senate a few days after the U.S. House had that Cap-and-Tax vote that Kirk voted for.

Nah.  Nothing to see here.

15 He wasn't crying because he was quitting...

...he was crying because he picked Indianapolis to beat the spread.

16 14 Yeah, I've been wondering about that too; Madigan was almost a betting sure thing to be running...or so I thought.  Kinda odd that she declined all things considered.

17 I realize we're talking about Democrats, but what is the legality of something like this?  Do the rules allow candidates to drop out and be replaced willy nilly by the party?

Why bother with primaries at all, then?

18 O/T:   "ACORN foe had honed his gonzo video tactics before"

what is the point?

19 "that middle name thing"

That's funny stuff. There used to be a morning radio show out of Greensboro, NC that featured a "Wayne Lee Ray" update. The hosts, who had been brought down to the Piedmont from up North, noted that an alarming number of perps in the police blotter would have either Wayne, Lee, or Ray as their middle name. So once a week they would note the Wayne Lee Ray middle named offenders. Incredible how many there were.

And hey, what do you know? The Dems in Illinois picked up on this - just a little late.

20 Is there some secret to outfoxing Minx to get comments to post?  I keep getting that message that my comment is annoying and I need to use the space bar more....where is the space bar & what do they serve?

21 what is the point?

Simple: to rehash the O'Keefe/Landrieu story, especially before charges are dropped.

22

 

Actually Mike Madigan really is the leader of the democrat party in Illinois,  he is chair of the Illinois Democratic State Central Committee,  which IS the party.  

 

 

Another name on the democrat ballot for Lt. Gov. last week was State Senator Ricky Hendon,  who represents an area on the south side of Chicago, near the district which Obama used to represent in the IL state senate. 

 

 

Hendon had worked for years on several pieces of legislation back when the state was run by corrupt republicans,  and could not get them thru the legislature.  

 

 

When the democrats took over when Blago got elected, Hendon's bills were taken away from him by his fellow democrat & new senate pres Emil Jones,  and given to this unknown guy with the funny name - Obama. 

 

 

That way Obama got the credit for the bills,  even tho he put zero effort into them.

23

Maybe they could get Bill Ayers to run.  He's clean and articulate.  Not a trace of Negro elect, except in his books.  Audacity of Opies hope and

Dreams of my friend Baracks father.

No felonies on his record.

24 Ok, Batchelor said the prius was recalled when interviewing a guest at the beginning of the program and then pulled back after talking to Lou Ann Hammond and has just modified his comment to say "Toyota is EXPECTED to recall the 2010 prius after a flurry of complaints".  Wanted to get that out there since I quoted him at the beginning of the program and he backed off so I feel a need to let you know that he backed off.

25 Is this the same guy that's a mobster?

26 O

27 —

28 Illinois?

29

Jeopardize?

Bad middle name?

I'll take "Guys who married 13- year-old jailbait" for five hunnert dollars, Alex.

30 I, too, would be quite interested to see if anyone else thinks this is illegal. The stupid mother just won his election last week. What the hell did we have an election for? Apparently, the will of the electorate means nothing in Illinois. If the party doesn't like the results, they'll just overturn them and appoint someone else. Are we still living in the United States? The federal government has to bring the hammer down on these fucking jag-offs. And they must have made him an offer he couldn't refuse. Money's involved. There's a federal crime here.

31

20 Is there some secret to outfoxing Minx to get comments to post?  I keep getting that message that my comment is annoying and I need to use the space bar more....where is the space bar & what do they serve?

Dude, you might as well ask God Almighty to lay it all out for you, about the Universe and what happens to you after you die, and stuff.

Ace and Minx don't give a fuck about your question.  Ace only shits alongside Barak, John Kerry and the other Higher Beings.  For them it comes out in little white puffs.

So he will not deign to answer. 

Now go hit the tip jar and shaddap!!!

 

32 Is there some secret to outfoxing Minx to get comments to post?  I keep getting that message that my comment is annoying and I need to use the space bar more....where is the space bar & what do they serve?

If you use a url it has to be small. Sometimes when you copy and paste you will pick up a url by accident.

33 He said he was stepping down because he did not want to jeopardize the Democratic Party ticket.

Must another Obama-style leftist...

34 Hey, some of us were trying to watch the end pre-game show, and were subjected to yet another Obama interview. You can't tell me that the man is not a wannabe Castro.

35 end-less pre-game show, that is.

36 "Jeopardize. J. E. O. P. A R. D. I. Z. E. Jeopardize."

"Correct!"

"Everybody drink!"

37 "Sometimes when you copy and paste you will pick up a url by accident. "

Sometimes when I copy and paste INTO TINY.URL and get a completely new URL it's still a "comment is annoying and I need to use the space bar more" issue?
Bollocks.

38 "echoing"?
Maybe I meant "channelling"?
"recapitulating"?
Anyway, I have the same problem as him, if he's a "him," but him and me, we ain't the same guy.

39 How to get the country to solvency on entitlements

40 a tearful Scott Lee Cohen

Enough of the pants wetters, already.

41 It really doesn't matter who they replace him with. The Illinois Dems are so screwed this year, even the totally incompetent Illinois Republicans will probably beat them this fall - like a snare drum.

42

Is this a link to "The Net?"

Let's find out...

 

43

Yes!!! Holy Shit!!! I finally got it right!!! (Sorry 'bout the link I chose.)

 

44 where is the space bar & what do they serve? Posted by: Boots

You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villany!

(Don't simply try to copy & paste from another web page; the meta-info sticks and counts as a single string of text. Open your Notepad and paste to there first. Edit it and then paste the text in the comment box here. If you want to put in a link, be sure to use TinyURL.com first. Highlight the text in the comment you wish to become a link to the reference webpage, click the 5th icon from the right above the comment box, paste the complete URL in the 2nd field, click apply, then ok. And then complete the comment by clicking 'Post'.)

45

ISKANDAR!!

 

46 Up yours, tweets.

47 Obama's Dysfunctional Disinformation Dilemma"

  "In a classically heirarchical structure, nobody benefits from passing only truthful communications. Contrariwise, everybody has an incentive to lie up, lie down, and lie sideways."

  "The farther information travels vertically or horizontally, the less it resembles the real reality of the outside world."

  "[Obama] is not self-reflective enough to realize the pickle he has gotten himself into; he does not comprehend how damaged his own communications have become."

  "It is functionally insane."'

  This info brought to ya morons as a public service cure for insomnia. Click the link for more.


http://biglizards.net/blog/archives/
2010/02/obamas_disinfor.html

48

Two big questions here: How was this shit bag able to win the primary to begin with and who pays for the IL primaries?

This turd could have only won the primary with the complicit aid of the "free press".  Just like Obama they his the sins and promoted the wonderfulness of the commiecrat.

If the people of IL are paying for the primaries (as they do in some States) then the nomination of the candidates no longer belongs to the party. They can not just pull a candidate and replace him at will.

Theoretically what should happen is the IL Dem Party hold another primary and pay for themselves.

49 Here is another url shortener ... but with Firefox at least, you can use it as an add-on.  Then you can just right click on any page and it will give you a short url.

http://fwd4.me/

50 Yeah...the middle name. Plus the extensive history of bat-shit craziness. The man's a gem!

51 How many children do you have to murder and consume before you're unfit to be a Democrat candidate for anything? I find your ideas fascinating and would be pleased if you join my campaign committee.

52 >>"[Obama] is not self-reflective enough to realize the pickle he has gotten himself into; he does not comprehend how damaged his own communications have become."

Aren't there laws against impersonating an American let alone a president?

53 All I have to say is that I'm still having Demon Sheep Nightmares....

At least it helps me get into work early.

54
I mean, can you imagine trying to watch the game and have a beer and some loser politician is babbling on, apologizing to his family and shit?



You could tell him to sit down and shut up, but then he might go off in a fit of roid rage and start assaulting women.

55 The Lautenberg gambit?

Sounds like the episode of Star Trek where the Kirk and the crew of the Enterprise affects the outcome of an election on a faraway planet.

Wait...

56
Ya' know I would have thought he would have held this press conference in the lounge of some Chicago area brothel being a big fan of hookers and all.

57 12 Amazing that, for once, we don't have to play the Name That Party game. Even more amazing because in Illinois the party is a given.

58 >>56
Ya' know I would have thought he would have held this press conference in the lounge of some Chicago area brothel being a big fan of hookers and all...

Someone calls you at 3:00 AM, who do you expect it to be?
My cadre of hookers - and they have better had a busy night if they know what's good for them - I'm running out of room in the yard where I bury the bodies.

59

"Scary Scott Lee Cohen". First Jooo Cowboy/Bountyhunter.

"Fastest withDRAW West of the Mississipi".

60 PUBLIC SERVICE ALERT

  "The Federal government is closed today in the National Capital Area."

  "Please let me know if you notice."

61 Selected not Elected! Seriously, in an election that is going to be all about corruption, they might as well nominate Resko.

62
mornin, french tick-a-lahs

63 He is stupid. He held all the cards. He didn't need to step down. My guess is the Dems dug up more dirt on him and he couldn't/didn't want more public embarrassment.

64
Scott Lee Cohen once backhanded a bitch for snorin'.

65 Yo New Orleans Saints, I'm really happy for you, I'm gonna let you finish, but I'm the worst pick for Lt. Governor of all time.

66
it's true, I read it in my genuine rawhide leatherbound Western books.

67 #12 If you're fucking a Democrat, you're probably a prostitute.

68 #67 I promise you, I'm not a Democrat.

69 The news guy just said there a rumors that the Gov of NY is considering not running for re election.  Hmmmm  didn't we hear that BO didn't want him to run but he said he was going to run anyway?  So what happened that all of a sudden the rumors are that he might not run?

70 BTW...somebody please keep that Cohen fucker away from me.

71 somebody please keep that Cohen fucker away from me You gotta problem?

72

69 The news guy just said there a rumors that the Gov of NY is considering not running for re election. ... So what happened that all of a sudden the rumors are that he might not run?

Posted by: curious at February 08, 2010 08:44 AM (p302b)

A Democrat is dropping out of a race.  Gotta be a ho or a love child involved there somewhere.

73
Why step down?  If you have a (D) behind your name - you are a perfect being.   All of your D-crimes are understandable and forgiven.  We will worship you regardless!  Illinois heart corruption, mob-ties and spousal abuse (D).

74
The news guy just said there a rumors that the Gov of NY is considering not running for re election.  Hmmmm  didn't we hear that BO didn't want him to run but he said he was going to run anyway?  So what happened that all of a sudden the rumors are that he might not run?

Posted by: curious at February 08, 2010 08:44 AM (p302b)

I saw a brief story the other day on some other site that said Patterson was busted a few days ago having a romantic dinner and holding hands at a NYC restaurant with a woman that was not his wife. That may have something to do with it Story may break in more detail later on today being the slow weekend news-cycle and the Capitol area being walloped by a blizzard.

75 The Patterson story about he and a woman at a restaurant in NJ actually come out several weeks ago.  It died down and now, 'for some reason', it's back again. 

76 So right about that middle name beating and killing women

Henry LEE Lucas
Jerry LEE Lewis

Only middle name worse is WAYNE

77

It died down and now, 'for some reason', it's back again. 

I saw something over the weekend where he had been caught "in the act" in a room in the gov mansion with a note that he and his wife werre known swingers. 

I don't remember where I saw that at.

78

Jerry LEE Lewis

When did Jerry Lee Lewis ever get convicted of beating and killing women? I thought his claim to infamy was marrying his young cousin.

79 77 A blind swinger.My only question is who does quality control for him?

80
The Patterson story about he and a woman at a restaurant in NJ actually come out several weeks ago.  It died down and now, 'for some reason', it's back again. 

Posted by: Tami at February 08, 2010 08:54 AM (VuLos)

Just did a Google news search and it looks like the NYT, yes the NYT is about to drop a bombshell about him. I doubt it involves another woman being thats basically street cred with a Dem, plus Paterson is already on record as saying he and his wife sort of have an open relationship.

My guess is the Cuomo camp has dug some dirt up on him to get him to step down because thats the only way in hell I can see the NYT doing a story like that. Not to mention Obama does want him to run for re-election either so this is a double win for the NYT.

81 I heard something about the 'swingers' thing too but...why would you have a note, in a room with you, that said you and your wife are swingers?  Especially if you're the governor of NY.  I smell Rahm.

82 Dammit! We was hoping for a real fun election here in Illinois with good ole' Scott Lee. The article didn't mention that he also has Federal Income tax problems and he owes $54,000 in back child support. He would have been a  perfect Illinois politician if given the chance.

83 The cynical, defeated minions rolled their eyes and went  to bed, just another day in the cesspool that is the State of Illinois, the land of hopenchange.

Roland Burris still has room on his headstone for another title (and pension). 

84
Obama does not want him to run for re-election either so this is a double win for the NYT.

Posted by: Blazer at February 08, 2010 09:02 AM (t72+4)

FIFMe

85 Jerry Lee was nicknamed "killer" so he had that going for him.

86 Paterson is already on record as saying he and his wife sort of have an open relationship.

Really?  I know they both admitted to infidelity but I never heard that they admitted to an open relationship. 

87 How about Lee Harvey Oswald?Anyone who uses their middle name is suspect.

88
Hey, if youÂ’re trapped in a room with your most recent ex for three days, what do you do?
I waited till the fuckers asleep and start king hitting like a chulo bitch gang banger till the arsehole feels like I did when the scunt dumped me.

89 My PR agent is going to lose his head over this.

90
Really?  I know they both admitted to infidelity but I never heard that they admitted to an open relationship. 

Posted by: Tami at February 08, 2010 09:05 AM (VuLos)

At the time he admitted both he and his wife had previous affairs and from what I recall he stated that they were both so very comfortable in their relationship at the time that it wasnt a big deal. I took that as him saying they had an open relationship.


Evidently the story may also involve NY State troopers.

91 Really?  I know they both admitted to infidelity but I never heard that they admitted to an open relationship. 

Posted by: Tami at February 08, 2010 09:05 AM (VuLos)

didn't see that coming? s'ok, neither did Paterson.

92

why would you have a note, in a room with you

LOL, I guess I need to go back for remedial English class. It has been over 40 years since I had any formal English training.

93

BTW, the story I read over the weekend didn't say they had an "open relationship".  It said they were "known swingers". 

That is a horse of a different color.

94

Jeopardize, jeopardy -- think of "leopard" and you'll never misspell it.

Unless you don't know how to spell leopard.

In the Internet Age, I'm not sure what excuses remain for not learning new things.

95 Anyone who uses their middle name is suspect.

Fuck you, asshole!!

96 From your link:

He held an extraordinary news conference detailing past affairs that he and his wife were involved in during an 18-month period when it appeared their marriage would end.

Doesn't sound so much as open, as it was on the skids.

I have a feeling that Chicago style politics is being used to get him out of the race.

97 96 There are always exceptions.

98

BTW, the story I read over the weekend didn't say they had an "open relationship".  It said they were "known swingers". 

That is a horse of a different color.

Posted by: Vic at February 08, 2010 09:16 AM (QrA9E)

Back when he had the press conference and admitted to the affairs, I recall him having a blase demeanor about the whole thing, laughing and cracking jokes the whole time. In other words he didnt seem too regretful or torn up about it. The New York social scene certainly is full of marriages of convenience and affairs are as normal as going to the health club for a lot of them, Caroline Schlossberg and Pinch Sulzberger is one that comes to mind.

However, the swinger thing is news to me. Perhaps he and his wife got trooper escorts to swinger parties or sex clubs?

99

However, the swinger thing is news to me.

It could be BS as well. It was in a "story" at a news site which I do not remember which one it was.

100 Did I ever mention Al Gore was my college roommate? All the damn time.

101 100 He also talked about his cocaine use just to get that out of the way.SNL did a funny skit about him with the womanizing and the cocaine but he blasted them for making fun of his blindness.

102

Anyone who uses their middle name is suspect.

But using your initials is cool.

 

Right???

103 morning, morons, are done hearing about Katrina now?

104

104

it's cool with me 

105 Who Dat??

106 "But using your initials is cool." This is correct

107 Nobody dat!

108

107

Hootie and the Blowfish??

109

Using an initial as your first name is totally cool.

110

111

Sometimes it means yer off yer rocker...

111 morning Blazer, Mama AJ

112 No one talking about Obama challenging the GOP to a televised session on health care?

113 everyone else sleeping off thier celebrations/lamentations from last night?

114 Using an initial as your first name is totally cool. So where do I fit in?

115 114 No one talking about Obama challenging the GOP to a televised session on health care?

Posted by: CJ at February 08, 2010 09:39 AM (9KqcB)

on CSPAN?

116
No one talking about Obama challenging the GOP to a televised session on health care?

Posted by: CJ at February 08, 2010 09:39 AM (9KqcB)

Nothing but Kabuki theater and a desperation move. He wants to draw the GOP into a gotcha moment and make them look like obstructionists before getting Reid to attempt the nuclear option.

"Ya' see I tried to work with them and reach across the aisle ,but they just dont want people to have healthcare no matter what so we had no choice."

117

114 No one talking about Obama challenging the GOP to a televised session on health care?

Maybe everyone knows he's lying?  Remember that Mr. Transparency promised the healthcare meetings would be televised.  It's an Obama trap to peel off some RINO votes for Obamacare.  I hope the Repubs don't fall for it, but you know how well the Repubs do public relations....

Oh well.  In other bad news, the Orange Revolution in Ukraine is over and Iran's still on their merry way to producing nukes.  At least in the end, there will be only chaos.

118 osted by: zombie F. Lee Bailey at February 08, 2010 09:40 AM Crap, I'm not dead, just my law practice.

119

No one talking about Obama challenging the GOP to a televised session on health care?

Had a post earlier on the ONT (open thread)

120 will there still be coffee, with the chaos?? 'cause I need my coffee, damnit!

121 Everyone is waiting on the Headline Open Thread. Will we get one today?

122 114 IT'S A TRAP!!

123

122 will there still be coffee, with the chaos?? 'cause I need my coffee, damnit!

The only liquid that will be available after the onset of total chaos is your own tears.  Enjoy.

124 125 It had to be done.

125

Don't know if Gabe's home yet, so we may not.

 

126

No one talking about Obama challenging the GOP to a televised session on health care?

And the Republicans should accept with Jim Coburn as the point man.  Because nothing says "condescending" like lecturing a physician about health care.

127 Palin's response to 'Handgate':

http://tinyurl.com/ylezmfe

http://tinyurl.com/ygbrv7c

128 And the Republicans should accept with Jim Coburn as the point man. Because nothing says "condescending" like lecturing a physician about health care. +1

129 Using one's middle name is racist and full of bigotry...

130

Palin's response to 'Handgate':

Perhaps she should just lug a teleprompter around.

EVERYWHERE.

131
Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at February 08, 2010 09:44 AM (9hSKh)



The GOP should have flat out refused. They have the overwhelming public sentiment and support on their side, the momentum and are winning already in the healthcare debate. they have nothing to gain from this. Obama said he wants to hear Republican idea's, but we all know thats bullshit because he's had over a year to hear them and for the most part Republicans have been shut out of committee on drawing legislation up. Tort reform and selling policies over state lines are the biggest two things you need and the Democrats will have none of it.

However he could have squishes like Snowe, Collins and Voinovich swooning in their seats as if he's serenading them.

Like the good Admiral said above, its a trap.

132

"You really should try to type something." - Website Monitor

Sompin ,,,, er ...., somethin ...., er ..., something. How's that?

133

It took all weekend, but I finally found someone who said what cancer therapy was denied to Shouse in her terminal stage:

Shouse is now on her third round of chemotherapy to fight off the bone cancer and liver tumors. That treatment did not keep her from becoming bedridden for a month this spring. She was then given Avastin, a biologic therapy that costs $6,500 for a two-week supply. Since then she has been able to keep food down and "get off the couch." Her insurance provider has since sent her a letter saying it won't pay for Avastin.


From JustOneMinute

It was really bugging me.

134

My take on the Obama invite from the ONT;

Rise and Shine dayshift Morons a new day and a new week is here.  I see I made 8 this week, halalulua that is the highest yet. 

It appears that we will have two major topics from the news today that are holdovers from the weekend (not SB releated)

1. Sarah Palins performance at the TP convention and on Piss Wallace's show.  I thought her performance at the convention was good but I was disappointed with her performace with the Fox commie and turned it off about 5 minutes into the take. She just let hin get away with too much crap related to "giving Obama credit" for crap he has thrown out there that are pure lies. One wonders if that is because she is now part of Fox or if commie Wallace's crew edited the tape and her answers.

2. The other topic will be the Obama invitation to speak to Republicans about healthscam to "get their ideas".  This is a lose lose for the Republicans. It is nothing more than an effort to peal off some of the RINOs at the same time they get painted as the "party of no". My personal beleief is that the Republican leadership should take cahrge of that "party of no meme" and shove back up their asses by going on the offensive with it.  We sat "no to nationalization, we say no to commuinsm, etc". 

135 Like the good Admiral said above, its a trap. Posted by: Blazer at February 08, 2010 09:56 AM (t72+4) Obama NEVER once reached across the aisle to work with the Republicans in either the State Senate or the US Senate. He shut the door air tight on them in his first year in Office. To believe he wants to work with the opposition now is just rediculous. He was, is, and will always be just a Chicago hack.

136 #133 Her response was to write HI MOM on her hand while campaigning for Perry.

I want a cartoon of two huge teleprompters in the shape of hands.

137 The Dow is trudging down and Gov Paterson may also be out of politics.

138

Other news on the Repub RINO front:

Labor Goon Up for confirmation in the Senate this week

 

His nomination is expected to go though without incident. (last paragraph in story)

 

We need the RINO gone;

Long time passing.

We need the RINOs gone;

Long time to go;

Weed need the RINOs gone;

They are OkÂ’ing commies everyone,

When will they ever learn;

When will they ever learn

 

No apologies to commie Seeger

 

139 "The BLS added a whopping 1.92 million jobs to their survey results in January. That is the spike shown in the second chart above. The number is so preposterous one might wonder if it was purposely preposterous. Census hiring may add to the preposterousness of it all, depending on what the BLS does with its models."

140 Tim Tebow abortion story is being “Swiftboated” by women’s rights activist Gloria Allred

141 somebody needs to shag ass and post a new thread!

142 "For CIT it represents a bet that Thain, despite his reputation, knows a hell of a lot about the industry, and what it will take to turn the ship around."

143
Obama NEVER once reached across the aisle to work with the Republicans in either the State Senate or the US Senate. He shut the door air tight on them in his first year in Office. To believe he wants to work with the opposition now is just rediculous. He was, is, and will always be just a Chicago hack.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 08, 2010 10:02 AM (0GFWk)

Like I said, its nothing but Kabuki theater and the Republicans are stupid to go along with it. They won't allow CSPAN cameras into the real healthcare debates, but they have no problem allowing cameras from every news network into this dog and pony show in the hopes they can catch a Republican or two sticking their foot in their mouth and looking like the party of "No".

This issue is already dead and gone and the Republicans are helping to keep it alive by going along with it.

144 "The Biggest Moochers: 10 States Making A Fortune From Obama's Budget"Rhode Island, Mississippi, West Virginia, Vermont, South Dakota,  Montana,North Dakota, Wyoming, Washington D.C., Alaska,

Hm, When did Washington D.C. become a state?
"The Biggest Losers: 10 States That Aren't Getting Jack For Infrastructure Spending"
Washington, Virginia, Colorado, California, Ohio, Tennessee, Arizona,  Michigan,  Florida, North Carolina,

145 "Here's the total year-over-year change in loans at commercial banks. Very ugly."

146 Is this a Recession or a Depression?

147

149

I'm thinking double dip

148

Bertha Lewis in more trouble; resigns in a cloud of more investigations.

 

149

Is this a Recession or a Depression?

When the real unemployment hits 25% it will be the sane as "the Great Depression".  We are approaching 20% now.

150 awesome, Vic

151

Bertha Lewis in more trouble; resigns in a cloud of more investigations.

 

Posted by: Vic at February 08, 2010 10:10 AM (QrA9E)

This is shaping up to be a good week.

152 "Mortgage Bankers Association “Walks Away” from HQ"

153 #146, you might be right, but if they "engage" Obama but don't budge on the essentials, that's actually good; you just fear they will do something RINO.

OT: Hillbuzz is practically making love to Sarah Palin.  Maybe they will remember she is against gay marriage, and most of what Hillary would support?

154

2. The other topic will be the Obama invitation to speak to Republicans about healthscam to "get their ideas".  This is a lose lose for the Republicans. It is nothing more than an effort to peal off some of the RINOs at the same time they get painted as the "party of no". My personal beleief is that the Republican leadership should take cahrge of that "party of no meme" and shove back up their asses by going on the offensive with it.  We sat "no to nationalization, we say no to commuinsm, etc". 

They have to attend for the sake of appearances, but I'd answer any questions this way: "We're glad the president and the Democrats finally decided to allow us into the health care meetings, it's only about a year too late. This meeting was not about finding common sense solutions for the American people, it was a sham. The president and the Democrats had no intention of actually listening to us or considering ideas that we have had on the table for years, it was about the president and the Democrats trying to shove the current proposal down our throats with no changes. They have tried to bully us, they have tried to buy our votes like they have already done with other Democrat senators, we will have none of it. This is a bill that the American people have continually shown that they do not want, but the president and the Democrats don't care what the American people want. It was a nice made-for-TV meeting, but we are not going to sellout the American people, we are not going to compromise our principles, we are not going to vote for this bill. The end."

155 Whoa, Blazer, did you see the arms on those cheerleaders yesterday?

156

Begin lecture mode:

 

In perusing other conservative sites I found one who had a thread going about the natural gas

explosion at the CT combined gas cycle plant under construction.  The author of the thread opened the thread with words to the effect that “when ever I hear about an explosion at a power plant the first thought is whether or not it is a nuclear power plant”.

 

I am amazed that people are still falling into this ridiculous meme that was created by eco-idiots years ago.  For those of you who are uneducated in the ways of commercial nuclear power let me say this one more time.  People, it is physically impossible to have a nuclear explosion at a commercial nuclear power plant.

 

At the fire academy they have a specific definition for an “explosion” in order to differentiate explosions from other rapid fire events. To firemen, an explosion is a rapid oxidation-reduction reaction with a flame front that exceeds the speed of sound.

 

A nuclear detonation involves an extremely fast fission/fusion reaction (k_eff >>>> 1.0).  These reactions produce energy as mass is lost in each (~ 200 MEV per fission) reaction. But to produce these reactions you must have highly enriched Uranium or highly enriched Plutonium (hence IranÂ’s work on enrichment).

 

The maximum enrichment in any commercial reactor is 5% and that is only in new assemblies in certain regions of the core (1/3 are changed out each refueling cycle). It is physically impossible to generate a nuclear detonation with an enrichment of 5%.

 

End of basic lecture

157 "How Unions Destroyed Greece; Union Greed and Gall in Nevada; Union Protests In Utah; Taxes on Food in Phoenix"

158 Just speculating, but wouldn't Real Estate in the DC corridor be worth MORE today than it was just a few years ago?

It's one of the only markets where job loss isn't an impact.

159

Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at February 08, 2010 10:15 AM (sXLx/)

I agree, they need to say that are something very similar. The key is that they do not fold like a cheap suit and have a handful of the RINOs cross the aisle.

160 Hey, what's up with the morning headlines?  Is Gabe snowed in somewhere?

161
#146, you might be right, but if they "engage" Obama but don't budge on the essentials, that's actually good; you just fear they will do something RINO.

OT: Hillbuzz is practically making love to Sarah Palin.  Maybe they will remember she is against gay marriage, and most of what Hillary would support?

Posted by: ParisParamus at February 08, 2010 10:14 AM (oT1aA)

What I fear is he'll offer them one or two things they really want and we'll get stuck with the other 10,000 things we really don't want. Maybe enough to peal away Snowe , Collins or Voinovich.

There is only one thing they need to say going into this:

"Mr. President, over 70% of Americans have already spoken and they want nothing to do with your healthcare reform because it isnt reform at all. The folks in Virginia, New Jersey and Massachusetts have spoken the loudest. Now lets quit wasting time and move on to other business."

162

This issue is already dead and gone and the Republicans are helping to keep it alive by going along with it.

Actually, keeping it alive might be worse for the Democrats. People by and large hate this bill and I believe polls show that they are far more concerned about the economy and jobs. Keeping this issue alive may make it appear that the president and the Democrats are far more interested in their pet project and less concerned with what voters actually care about. Combined with the poll numbers it makes the president and the Democrats look disconnected from reality. I think that a lot of congressional Democrats would rather have this issue disappear.

163 "They have to attend for the sake of appearances,"
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at February 08, 2010 10:15 AM (sXLx/)

This is why the dems/libs always get the better of you republican/conservatives.  They know you are the eagle scouts, the good guys, so you will always "play well with others".   Bo knew he could make that offer and the republicans like the spurned lover with no self esteem would come crawling back on their knees cause after all "it's the right thing to do".  Just once I'd love to see republicans grow a pair, a couple of pairs and tell BO, "thanks but no thanks, for over a year our ideas have been out there, we have tried to talk to you guys, we have written letters, we have waited outside of meetings where the door remained closed to us, so now, now that you are about to totally fail, now you want us????  No thanks, we are not going to embarrass ourselves in front of the American people by showing we are a bunch of jellyfish, rather we are going to go out there and tell the American people that we hear them, they don't want any health care reform right now and we are listening which is why we ain't comin to the meetin....en masse as a block.

164

I think that a lot of congressional Democrats would rather have this issue disappear.

I think Pelosi is going to continue trying to push it through any means she can and the R's need to stay united.

165 Posted by: Vic at February 08, 2010 10:16 AM (QrA9E)

The only reactors I know of that can come close are naval reactors.

166 The flaky so called "Progressives" opposed to nuclear powere plants in this country should recognize that more people died in Teddy Kennedy's car than in all of the nuclear power plants that were ever built in this country.

167 #159, I dont think most people fear a nuclear explosion, but lots of radiation without a boom.

I favor nuclear power, but I am still unclear how, in a fail-safe manner, you get the rods away from each other when the cooling system fails (far enough away to stop the heat).  Any thoughts?

168 I favor nuclear power, but I am still unclear how, in a fail-safe manner, you get the rods away from each other when the cooling system fails (far enough away to stop the heat).  Any thoughts?

Posted by: ParisParamus at February 08, 2010 10:24 AM (oT1aA)

Pebble Bed Reactor.

169

The flaky so called "Progressives" opposed to nuclear powere plants in this country should recognize that more people died in Teddy Kennedy's car than in all of the nuclear power plants that were ever built in this country.

Hey, now.  Don't confuse the issue with facts.  It feels right.

170

In addition, wrt to this health care issue, I'd also have the Republican leadership start banging on the economy and unemployment and ask why the president and the Democrats continue to ignore immediate problems like continuing job losses and unemployment while they are still hung up on a healthcare bill that Americans do not want. Pull a page out of the Clinton playbook: "It's the Economy, Stupid!"

171
I favor nuclear power, but I am still unclear how, in a fail-safe manner, you get the rods away from each other when the cooling system fails (far enough away to stop the heat).  Any thoughts?

Posted by: ParisParamus at February 08, 2010 10:24 AM (oT1aA)

Do you dump the reactor full of cooling water or would that cause a steam explosion like at Chernobyl?

172 "161 Just speculating, but wouldn't Real Estate in the DC corridor be worth MORE today than it was just a few years ago?

It's one of the only markets where job loss isn't an impact.

Posted by: WTFCI at February 08, 2010 10:17 AM (+zo63)"

The RE blogs agree with your speculation.  How the hell can the "public" servants understand anything going on in the rest of the country when they have their jobs, their perks, their unions, their retirement accounts intact and their homes, going up in value due to demand since they are hiring at the government?  They are, in effect, in a protective bubble.

173 Wonder what the payoff was?

174 That Audi commercial last night was one of the most truly frightening commercials I've ever seen.  I almost feel as though Audi used the medium as a means of warning the world.

175

The only reactors I know of that can come close are naval reactors.

Can not discuss the stuff associated with those. As far as I know everything associated with the Naval Reactor Program is still classified.

176 In Popular Mechanics several years ago, there was an article about some guy out in Milwaukee (as I recall) who patented a miniature, nuclear powered engine that could be used in cars, trucks, lawn mowers and water pumps (as I recall). Wonder why we never heard anymore about that.

177

Like I said, its nothing but Kabuki theater and the Republicans are stupid to go along with it.

This was what I was afraid of. Obama would call our bluff and we would chicken out.

What really concerns me is that Republicans in Congress don't have the backbone or knowledge to articulate 1. a conservative approach to health care and 2. why it's better than the Left's.

So, just like in the Bush years, they're not ready to govern.

178 Dang! Zero already back down to -15 on Rasmussen's DTP? That was quick.

179
In Popular Mechanics several years ago, there was an article about some guy out in Milwaukee (as I recall) who patented a miniature, nuclear powered engine that could be used in cars, trucks, lawn mowers and water pumps (as I recall). Wonder why we never heard anymore about that.

Posted by: Open outer doors - fire one at February 08, 2010 10:34 AM (ITzbJ)

I remember seeing something similar in OMNI magazine back in the late eighties.

180 Stockman 
via FT Alphaville
via The Big Picture

181 LOL OMNI.  did it make it into the 1980's, yeah, guess so...talk about a wormhole to the past!

182

I favor nuclear power, but I am still unclear how, in a fail-safe manner, you get the rods away from each other when the cooling system fails (far enough away to stop the heat).  Any thoughts?

It would take a lot more space than what we should use up here to explain what happens when the “cooling system” fails (by that I assume you mean the design basis accident occurs where you have a rupture of the reactor coolant system, simultaneous with a loss of offsite power, and half of the emergency power systems fail to start on demand.)

 

Suffice to say that there are more than ample safety systems in place for that accident).

 

BTW, I am not a proponent of the Pebble Bed design.

183 Just a hunch, but I think the general public having access to enough fissile nuclear material to run a car on might have a few drawbacks.

184

Bo knew he could make that offer and the republicans like the spurned lover with no self esteem would come crawling back on their knees cause after all "it's the right thing to do". 

Posted by: curious at February 08, 2010 10:24 AM (p302b)

You don't go because "it's the right thing to do," you go simply for the sake of appearances. You're going to get beaten up whether you go or don't go, so then you consider which of the options leaves you looking best with the average voter. The reality is that most people aren't deep thinkers when it comes to politics, so I say go to the meeting to make it look as if you are actually interested in a dialogue. You then come out of the meeting and say that going in you were hopeful that the president was actually interested in your ideas but you quickly realized that it was a waste of your time. He was only interested in making you accept his plan, which is a disaster that you will never vote for and which the American people do not want. And until the president and the Democrats are interested in common sense ideas that do work and that the American people do want, you will have no further discussions on the topic. And anyway, why is the president still wasting his time on this bill that Americans don't want when American workers are in the unemployment line and American businesses are collapsing? Wouldn't his time be better spent on finding real solutions for this economic crisis?

I like your idea but it appeals to hardcore folks. Most voters don't put that much effort into following politics or economics, and a lot of people are disgusted with the two party system. This whole deal is a sham designed to make the Republicans look obstructionist, I'd go to the meeting and then reverse the whip.

185 Do you dump the reactor full of cooling water or would that cause a steam explosion like at Chernobyl?

Posted by: Blazer at February 08, 2010 10:27 AM (t72+4)

You are supposed to regulate coolant flow so that doesn't happen. Problems can crop up at both the high and low ends of flow rates.

186 The reality is that most people aren't deep thinkers when it comes to politics....

52% to be exact.

187
LOL OMNI.  did it make it into the 1980's, yeah, guess so...talk about a wormhole to the past!

Posted by: ParisParamus at February 08, 2010 10:38 AM (oT1aA)

I loved that magazine, shame it had to go. The sci-fi short stories were pretty good and one of the best articles ever written in it was by G. Gordon Liddy on national security, terrorist attacks against our infrastructure and our porous borders. I was only about 16 or 17 at the time, but it really gave me goosebumps

188

Do you dump the reactor full of cooling water or would that cause a steam explosion like at Chernobyl?

The "steam explosion" at Chernobyl was caused by a number of factors that are not physically possible in a U.S. design. They did in fact have a runaway reaction with a large Keff.  That happened primarily because they viuolated every safety rule they had, their basic design allowed a positive moderator temperature coefficient, and their actual safety system design was not adequate to handle it, even if they had not defeated the safety system before the event.

Note that one of the local commisars is the one who had them doing all this.

Still, Chernobyle would hjave had no apreciable impact if it had been located in a concrete structure rather than a tin "Butler Building". 

189

Can not discuss the stuff associated with those. As far as I know everything associated with the Naval Reactor Program is still classified.

Posted by: Vic at February 08, 2010 10:34 AM (QrA9E)

I know they use Highly Enriched Uranium (above 20 percent) but so do Fast Neutron Reactors which are also found in civilian applications.

190 So what am I, chopped liver?

191 In view of the circumstances, you'll never convince me that GW and Republicans in Congress didn't do the best job that they could do with the confusing information that was being given to them by dishonest financiers. If Obama and his administration weren't such scumbags, they would put the blame on those sleazy financiers, not on my hero, GW, or on my other hero, Dick Cheney. (sigh)

192 I almost think that regular Americans are having to make very tough decisions on a regular basis.  I also think, from the various polls that they are sorta starting to really pay attention.  If they feel free to complain at the grocery store, then they are talking.  Whenever, regular Americans are talking and complaining it can't be good for the folks in charge.  If Republicans/conservatives could tap into what the American public is really feeling and respond to the prez and his "show" accordingly then maybe they would start to little by little challenge this stuff before it is in place and irrevocable.

193

Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at February 08, 2010 10:41 AM (sXLx/)

I don't think it matter much what the Republicans do or say, they are still going to be lambasted by the press.  The Republicans at some point are going to have to learn how to deal with a hostile press without folding like a cheap suit from Belk's.

194 The Dems Jeopardize themselves every time they open their fucking mouths.

It's when that whole letting people know what you really think that scares the shit out of them thing that it'ss kill em every time.  heh heh

See the HC bil for instance.

195 I really think if Republicans go prancing into this "shit show" with nary a word that they will lose any respect from he American people.

196 That Audi commercial last night was one of the most truly frightening commercials I've ever seen.  I almost feel as though Audi used the medium as a means of warning the world.

Does Audi have some sort of magic diesel that is refined using less than the standard current 3 barrels of crude to get one barrel of deisel?

197

I know they use Highly Enriched Uranium (above 20 percent) but so do Fast Neutron Reactors which are also found in civilian applications.

There are no "fast neutron reactors" in commercial nuclear power. There is a small percentage of fast fission that occurs in the U-238 matrix but it is very small.

As I said earlier, I will not discuss naval design.  

198

This is shaping up to be a good week.

First, let us all give thanks that there were no wardrobe malfunctions during the half time show.

199 It is amazing that Chicago has so much corruption that is so visible.  In NC, our politicians are corrupt, but we don't usually find the corruption until after they leave office.  These guys don't even get to the starting line before they are thrown out.

This is how Obama got elected when the other R candidate withdrew because of his divorce proceedings that were made public.  Then Alan Keys ran against Obama and the rest is history.

I don't hear much about Chicago in the political scene, but when you do, it's usually pretty bad.

200 You know this story should be a huge scandal.
Arthur Turner finished second.
Arthur Turner got almost 1/4 of the votes in a 6 way primary.
Arthur Turner got over 180,000 votes and lost by only 30,000.
Arthur Turner received 70,000 more votes than his nearest competitor.
Why hasn't Arthur Turner already been named as the nominee?
2 words... Race Ism.
Arthur Turner is black.
 

201 That Audi commercial last night was one of the most truly frightening commercials I've ever seen.  I almost feel as though Audi used the medium as a means of warning the world.

Personally I saw it as satire, with a twist of humor

202 Oh, and you can build a weapon with 20 percent enrichment but it'd be crude and inefficient with a low yield of a couple of kilotons.

203 "Personally I saw it as satire, with a twist of humor

Posted by: Mjim at February 08, 2010 10:53 AM (V8B//)"

Yes, of course, but going beyond that, it has everyone talking.

204

The Republicans at some point are going to have to learn how to deal with a hostile press without folding like a cheap suit from Belk's.

Posted by: Vic at February 08, 2010 10:50 AM (QrA9E)

How many years have people been saying this? It's almost like they have Stockholm syndrome and I think GW Bush was the worst about this. I recall Limbaugh's admonition to the freshmen Republicans in 1995: "Don't be fooled by these press people, they don't like you and their goal is to get you out of DC as fast as they can. Do what you were sent here to do and don't worry about what they say."

It's one of the things I like about Palin. She doesn't wuss out, she gives it back and seems to enjoy stomping on her critics' nads. That "Hi, Mom" thing on her hand was teh awesome.

205 It is amazing that Chicago has so much corruption that is so visible.  In NC, our politicians are corrupt, but we don't usually find the corruption until after they leave office.  These guys don't even get to the starting line before they are thrown out.

Here's what happened to Scott Lee Cohen.  The Democrats were never going to elect him.  He was set up to lose.  He was set up to lose, but drop 3 mil of his own money around the Democratic Party scene.  He was a good depositer for  Dems, their consultants, their communication firms, etc.

They got all his money, but now they have his cloud.  They will pretend they never knew anything about the cloud.  They will be lying.

206 Snowing like a bitch here in Arkansas. Dammit. Where is my global warming?

207 Yes, of course, but going beyond that, it has everyone talking.

Go Audi! Personally I like their cars, so perhaps I'm biased.

208 It's a very sexy car.

209 Curious,

Your link to their website just put a bad taste in my mouth...
They really hit you over the head with their "saving the world" crap

It should say "Saving you money at the pump"

210

Oh, and you can build a weapon with 20 percent enrichment but it'd be crude and inefficient with a low yield of a couple of kilotons.

The last thing I saw on that subject was in a book I checked out from the library. It said that the "experts" said 5 pounds of 95% enriched to make a weapons grade device capable of a detonation.

20% would most likely do nothing more than make a "fizzle" that polluted the area. Especially if done by some third world shithole like Iran.  

211

I sort of missed the story about Palin writing on her hand. Just followed an Instapundit link to the horrible nasty things the lefties are saying about her.

What ugly people.

212 Posted by: Mjim at February 08, 2010 11:00 AM (V8B//)

And, that is so obvious to you right, but they failed to get that out there. I think maybe they are trying to appeal to that class of human, almost extinct, that may not care what they have to pay at the pump, trying to align themselves with those who have so much income, it doesn't matter.

213

Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at February 08, 2010 10:56 AM (sXLx/)

I agree, except that I think Palin did fold in that Wallace interview yesterday, at least in the first 5 minutes.

OK, let me rephrase that, it "looked like she folded". Wallace's producers may have edited out strong comments.

214 Audi - Making the rich feel better about raping the land.

215 New thread up from DrewM

216 Posted by: Mama AJ at February 08, 2010 11:01 AM (Be4xl)

When I brought this up, I got attacked.  I was like what? calling me a "concern troll" me???  I knew it wouldn't go away so I posted it on here the minute I heard about it.  And I said, that it would be typical of Sarah Palin if it said "don't forget to call the kids and tell them to take the laundry out of the dryer and fold it".   the more I think about this, the more I think Sarah did this to make them go nuts, on purpose.

217

Posted by: Vic at February 08, 2010 11:03 AM (QrA9E)

I overheard a brief bit on F&F this morning in which they characterized her speech Saturday night and her interview with Wallace as "feisty," though having not seen either I'll defer to you. I would love to see her get in their grills but with a smile on her face, same as what Liz Cheney has been doing recently. Also Michelle Bachmann.

Come to think of it, it seem like the only high profile Republicans with balls are women.

218

"Come to think of it, it seem like the only high profile Republicans with balls are women.

Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at February 08, 2010 11:15 AM (sXLx/)"

Once you've survived being a 7th grade girl in an American Middle School, it all pales in comparison.

219

I only watched the "highlights" of the TP speech from other sites. I watched the first 5 minutes of the Wallace interview and turned it off because it made me mad.

It may have got better in the end, but I trust very little that comes out of F&F in the morning. They lean too far to the left.

220

Once you've survived being a 7th grade girl in an American Middle School, it all pales in comparison.

Ah come on, it can't have degenerated that much! Not to the level of "politics".

221 Posted by: Vic at February 08, 2010 11:30 AM (QrA9E)

vic, you need to watch some of the "reality" programming geared towards middle schoolers and younger.  It has gotten to the point of "politics".  Heck kindergarten is politics. 

222

Arrrgggg, I have to see the jug-eared jackass every time I turn on Fox.  Do I have to watch fake "reality TV" as well?

I think I would go crazy.

LOL, trying to remember my 7th grade but it was about 50 years ago. Can't remember back that far.

223

Two big questions here: How was this shit bag able to win the primary to begin with and who pays for the IL primaries?

This turd could have only won the primary with the complicit aid of the "free press".  Just like Obama they his the sins and promoted the wonderfulness of the commiecrat.

 

The way Scott Lee Cohen won the Illinois democrat primary for Lt. Gov was brilliant and simple.  He was a nobody that nobody knew, and almost nobody bothered to check out either the guy or his credentials.  Mark Brown, a columnist for the Sun-Times, actually did do an opinion piece on Cohen last year, and did mention the hooker girlfriend takedown with a knife and some of the other fun facts about our guy Scottie, but the powers that be deemed him unworthy of notice.  Ha.

Scott Lee Cohen used $2 million of his money (he runs pawnshops) to buy TV and radio spots.  The spots were simple.  Each commercial featured 3 ordinary citizens, reciting the same script:  "Hi I'm so and so, I needed a job, and Scott Lee Cohen held a job fair and found me a job.  Thank you Scott Lee Cohen! That's why I'm voting for Scott Lee Cohen.  He held a job fair and found me a job."

That was it.  Three people, saying those words, playing over and over and over every time you got in your car & turned on the radio, or turned on the TV.  The visuals were great for TV, Scottie cleans up okay, looks presentable in his suit and tie, and these were ordinary citizens giving their full names and thanking him for getting them a job. 

The other two main candidates for the Lt. Gov position were dem machine hacks.  This guy was fresh and clean and new and promised jobs, which is what people want and need right now. 

Illinois primaries are paid for at the county level of government.  Local governments are cash strapped right now, I don't see them clamoring for a re-vote.  I heard on the radio this morning that the dems are considering putting Dan Hynes in the Lt. Gov spot.  He's the guy who just lost the Gov primary to Gov Pat Quinn by less than 10,000 votes statewide, which is pretty close. 

Considering the bad blood between those two right now, I'd get a food taster if I were Pat Quinn.

224 Hell, that ios so farf back CA was still mostly conservative farming and was actually part of America!

225 Well Boots, if the local governments pay for the primaries then the Dem Party machine should not be able to select the candidate on their own. It is no longer "their" primary.

226 One thing is sure.  If someone's objection  to nuclear power goes to the storage of waste, they are clear either ignorant, or a full of it (see their view on "climate change," especially more than three months ago).  FULL OF IT.  LIKE OBAMAO.

227

Well that would be interesting, having Quinn and Hynes together...

 

Vic, the counties would let them do that due to money concerns, which in this state the Dems bank on.

228

Vic, I'm not a lawyer nor do I play one on TV, but from living a lifetime here in Illinois I can tell you that the parties DO pick their fav candidate once a candidate drops off the ticket.  That's how Illinois ended up with Alan Keyes from (Maryland?  Delaware?  someplace out east)  as the republican candidate for the US Senate back in 2004. 

Jack Ryan, husband of Jeri Ryan the actress, had won the Illinois republican primary.  Then the Obama goons got busy and got the Chicago Tribune to demand the Ryans' sealed divorce records be opened up.  In those divorce records there were allegations by Jeri Ryan that Jack took her to sex clubs in Paris and wanted to treat her like "the chicken" in public among other juicy tidbits.  Ryan eventually dropped out of the race & the republicans picked Keyes.  They tried to get Mike Ditka of Chicago Bears fame but he declined. 

At that point the Obama machine had already chewed up and spit out Obama's democrat rivals during the primary.  Blair Hull was actually polling ahead of Obama, so the goons got busy and got his divorce records opened up.  Hull 's ex-wife had accused him of beating her.  Hmmm......what do wives and girlfriends of Illinois politicians see in these guys, besides getting the crap kicked out of them?

229 btw thanks to Iskandar for the tips, I didn't realize that copying & pasting could drag metadata with it even if a link wasn't part of the copy.  It's so frustrating to devote many seconds to writing a post only to see it vanish in a poof of 'your comment is annoying'.............

230

The last thing I saw on that subject was in a book I checked out from the library. It said that the "experts" said 5 pounds of 95% enriched to make a weapons grade device capable of a detonation.

20% would most likely do nothing more than make a "fizzle" that polluted the area. Especially if done by some third world shithole like Iran.  

Posted by: Vic at February 08, 2010 11:00 AM (QrA9E) 

That is critical mass. You can reach critical mass with less enrichment.

Little Boy's 64 kilograms of Uranium was only 80 percent enriched. I think Fat Man's plutonium core was only a couple of kilograms.

20 percent enriched Uranium would have a critical mass of several hundred kilograms.

231

Well I suspect then that the "parties" are in colusion in IL and they totally own the primary process without even having to pay for it.

There was a court case here a few years ago in which someone challenged something one of the parties (don't remember which one it was) and the court ruled that the primary process was totally owned by the party. The party paid for the primary in its entirety. The only thing the State did was provide the normal polling places for voting.

232

While I'm doubling down on the subject of the politics of stupidity Illinois-style, a comment about the republicans at the top of the republican ticket.  State Senator Bill Brady won on election night, and has declared victory, but his opponent State Sen Kirk Dillard refuses to concede.  There were about 400 votes separating them the last I checked, but Dillard refuses to admit the obvious and get behind Brady. 

The republicans could be making major gains right now among the electorate, touting their cleaner credentials (nobody in IL politics is clean, some are just less dirty than others).  But no, this idiot Dillard is throwing a hissy fit and demanding that the votes be found to make him the winner.  Whiner.

This is the same Kirk Dillard who is BFF with Barack Obama, and who starred in an Obama TV commercial in the presidential race of 2008.  What kind of idiot republican would shun his own guy McCain in order to endorse the democrat Obama!!!!!  Dillard is a tool and just mucking it up for Brady and the republicans.

233

20 percent enriched Uranium would have a critical mass of several hundred kilograms.

Critical mass is determined by a lot more than mass and enrichment. It takes a lot of extreemly sophisticated design to produce a runaway fission process in low enrichment or low weight. 20% is low enrichment.

My area of expertise is not in weapons design, but I do not think 20% will support a weapon detonation. Especially for someone like Iran.

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