1 That's it. I'm not blinking until you people agree to vote for Obamacare.

2 I don't see a fucking fat lady singing let alone a Democrat that tells the truth.

3 Blinking is too flashy anyway.

Is anyone asking the Dems about this passing-it-without-voting-on-it scheme?  I have to admit, I'm not going to watch the MSM.

4 Please vote for this and give our dear President a break. he really deserves it. His job is soooooo hard.

5 Do you think if this passes Z Ryan will still be able to get treatment for his STDs?  He was on a date last night you know.

6 Ooooh below the belt!

7 Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at March 14, 2010 07:46 PM (bgcml)

Stop the thread.

8 Ah there you are Z.
Have fun?

9 I most definitely did.  I have a second date tomorrow.

10 Wow!  Is she a ginger?

11 TheyÂ’ve been looking to us to create a way to do it. I think we have gotten to a place where we do have the way to do it, and I think the members are going to, to vote for this.

Why does that sound creepy? Vee have vays to do this.

12 The "Inevitability Principle" at work.  "You better get on board
cause this is happening."  I don't think the recalcitrant Dems are intimidated.

13

They're going to add more districts to the House until they can get a majority.  Maybe we'll wind up with a North Dakota 99, Virginia 12, and a Rhode Island 2, 3, 4, and 5. 

Sure picked a lousy week to quit meth. 

14 She's freckly, but not a ginger.

15 Z,
Did you have to do the "Walk of Shame" this morning?
Inquiring minds want to know.

16 I miss one ONT and then I find out somebody else is making a mistake going out on a date.

You aren't missing anything yet, are you Ryan?  And she isn't another vampire stalker chick, is she?

17
I think we have gotten to a place where we do have the way to do it.




Bullshit, they dont have the votes now and they wont have them a week from now.They're gonna go the Slaughter route, he gave himself away in that sentence.

18 IMHO, the dems are playing "it's inevitable it will pass" game.

We'll see.  Hope you aren't all lead to Slaughter come November.

19

Now?  Can I go now?

20 No walk of shame.  I'm not that kind of guy and she's not that kind of girl.

No, she's not a vampire stalker chick.  I made it through the night with my soul intact.  But... didn't  I have two kidneys before?

21 #17  Bullshit, they dont have the votes now and they wont have them a week from now.They're gonna go the Slaughter route, he gave himself away in that sentence.

Wonderful.  It was nice knowing you, Blazer, as I'll probably fall ill from anxiety after Slaughtercare passes and I'll be put on the chopping block as I have inferior ginger genes or something.

22 Good man Z.

23

You don't have the votes? let me state what has been the painfully obvious for some time

NO SHIT SHERLOCK!

24 #20  No, she's not a vampire stalker chick.  I made it through the night with my soul intact.  But... didn't  I have two kidneys before?

If you only lost a kidney, that's a good sign.  Maybe that will appease the female gods and you won't lose anything else.

25 They do have the votes, they don't have the votes, they do have the votes, they don't have the votes, I can't take anyone at face value any more, so I'm just going to wait and see what happens.

Pelosi & Co. may be out of touch with reality, but that have a disturbing tendency to shape reality to fit their vision. And that's what scares me more than anything.

26 Didn't Prometheus teach the humans to cheat Zeus out of a real meat sacrifice?  And look how that turned out for him.

27

Let me get this straight:

1. If they can't get the votes to pass the Senate bill, they're going to pass a "correction" bill separately, meant to proscribe the changes the House wants to see (i.e. abortion language)

2. They will then change the House rule and deem the Senate bill as having passed the House.

3. The conference committee will merge the corrections bill and the Senate bill and send it to Obama to sign.

Am I describing the Slaughter option accurately?  Seriously, I don't quite understand how this will work.

Grateful for any explanation.

28 That's it. I'm not blinking until you people agree to vote for Obamacare.

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at March 14, 2010 07:46 PM (bgcml)

Nancy Pelosi:

Before taking that pledge.

And after following through on it.

29 We are great singers.  We chest bump. 

30 They do have the votes, they don't have the votes, they do have the votes, they don't have the votes, I can't take anyone at face value any more, so I'm just going to wait and see what happens.

If they ever had the votes they would have passed it.

31

House Majority Whip James Clyburn says Pelosi is full of shit

It's comforting to know that some things never change.

 

32 Stuiec, that second picture is less scary.

33 I've said two things since B to the O took office.  1st, He will not leave office just because He is voted out or His terms "end".

2nd, they will not let this go because, B to the O has staked His presidency on it. 

The 2 are interrelated because the demos, at their core, have no regard for the Constitution, our laws, or the governing principles this nation was founded on.  If they are willing to circumvent the Constitution for BtotheOCare, then they will surely have no hesitation to pull similar yoga maneuvers to keep B to the O in office for life. 

Think it's far-fetched and lunatic fringe, right-wing nutter thinking?  Ask yourself if what's going on right now was even fathomable after Scott Brown won just a few short weeks ago? 

The only questions that remain, IMO, are when does the revolution start, what is the final trigger to start it, and how bad does it get?

I pray that I am wrong and that somehow all of this goes away shortly, but I can see not alternative endings, as this leadership has gone all in on a full-on statist takeover of our nation.  And unfortunately enough of the populace is in favor of socialism to go along quietly. 

34 "I think we have gotten to a place where we do have the way to do it"

Let me guess: the place is a tank deep in an underground lair, and the way involves sharks with frickin' lasers on their heads?

35 On the upside, Bob "Fat Head" Gibbs has job security for the rest of Obama's administering. All he has to do is repeat a single page of double spaced lines proclaiming that Health Care is a sure thing, next week.

36 Not only hasn't the fat lady sung yet, but she's taken off her winged helmet and is beating Hagen to death with it.

37 20

Whats wrong with sex on the first date?

38 26 Didn't Prometheus teach the humans to cheat Zeus out of a real meat sacrifice?  And look how that turned out for him.

Indeed.  Chained up and devoured by a bird everyday until I came along and burned him in the Fires of Olympus. 

39 But....BOBBY GIBBS SAID SO!

40 Stuiec, that second picture is less scary.

Posted by: wherestherum at March 14, 2010 08:03 PM (gofDd)

I wasn't sure I had them in the right chronological order.

Then I realized it didn't make a bit of difference.

41 Whats wrong with sex on the first date?

Posted by: Had sex on first date with wife of 15 years at March 14, 2010 08:03 PM (tgXx6)

Took you 15 years to ask your wife out on a date?

42 #37  Whats wrong with sex on the first date?

Because people should have more respect for themselves than to give themselves up to each other after just one night?

/Okay, there are exceptions when those people who do that do stay together, but I'd posit they are the exceptions and not the rule.

43 Indeed.  Chained up and devoured by a bird everyday until I came along and burned him in the Fires of Olympus. 

Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at March 14, 2010 08:03 PM (otlXg)

Um thanks. 

A simple, thanks Pro-Mo. Here's the key. See-ya. Would have worked too you know.

44 I'm not that kind of guy

huh.  I thought all guys were that kind of guy.

45
They do have the votes, they don't have the votes, they do have the votes, they don't have the votes, I can't take anyone at face value any more, so I'm just going to wait and see what happens.

Pelosi & Co. may be out of touch with reality, but that have a disturbing tendency to shape reality to fit their vision. And that's what scares me more than anything.

Posted by: Joanna at March 14, 2010 08:00 PM (euARo)

And yet, Peloser keeps telling the left she's gonna insert along with abortion and coverage for illegals the public option into the bill somehow which would shed even more votes. I dont know what in the hell is going on here with these dip-shits, but I certainly hope we dont have to go through this every week right up until November, which would actually probably be a good thing, but the suspense is killing me.

46

3 Blinking is too flashy anyway.

Is anyone asking the Dems about this passing-it-without-voting-on-it scheme?  I have to admit, I'm not going to watch the MSM.

---

Sounds familiar?

"Power is not only what you have, but what the enemy thinks you have"

"Keep the pressure on, with different tactics and actions"

"The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself."

"If you push a negative hard and deep enough, it will break through into its counterside"

"we're so fucking stupid we'll lie about anything and think no one knows it"

47
Whats wrong with sex on the first date?

Posted by: Had sex on first date with wife of 15 years at March 14, 2010 08:03 PM (tgXx6)

Yeah.

48 This won't be "over" until the democrat majority in the house has been removed.  We got another 10 months of this shit coming.  Bank on it.

49 #43  A simple, thanks Pro-Mo. Here's the key. See-ya. Would have worked too you know.

Here's how it went down, because it seems like you don't remember.

/You asked for it.

50 I don't know shit about Congressional inside baseball, but it seems to me that there is a chance of a cascading effect the other way against Obamacare.  One way or another, Pelosi is toast after the election.  As I once explained to a person I had to fire, stupid and passive sometimes works, smart and aggressive usually works, but stupid and aggressive never works.  That's San Fran Nan in a nutshell.  She might try to make your life miserable for the next six months but then she's gone.  So what is Steny Hoyer going to tell these people when he runs for minority leader?  That he is going to make them suck the barbed cock of satan for the rest of their career?  Hell no, all is forgiven if you vote for him.  Why sacrifice your career for Obama?  The guy is an ideologue who could care less about the party and he could destroy the Dems for a generation.  Still, I'm very nervous.

51 Sex on her first date is the best!

52

34 "I think we have gotten to a place where we do have the way to do it"

------------

 recall wasn't going to work but impeachment works just as well. Violate the constitution and your oath of office? I think we have gotten to a place where we do have the way to do it

 

53 #44  huh.  I thought all guys were that kind of guy.

Pretty much, but there are exceptions.  There are honorable guys like Ryan and then there are people like me, who have been blessed by Lord Darwin and so will never have an opportunity to act on anything like that.

54 This is all going to depend on the strength, courage, and determination of Blue Dog Democrats, and Moderate Republicans... so yeah, we're pretty much hosed.

55 I guess we'll have to see how this week unfolds to know who's lying, or if the Slaughter method will be used in the end.

56 "3. The conference committee will merge the corrections bill and the Senate bill and send it to Obama to sign."

No.  All the procedural shenanigans are designed to AVOID a conference, or anything else that would return the bill to the Senate.  If the House were to amend the Senate bill, the bill would go back to the Senate with a message from the House asking for the Senate to concur in the amendments, i.e., to pass the bill as amended by the House, or alternatively to appoint conferees.  Either of those things would require a cloture vote in the Senate with a 60-vote supermajority.

57
This is all going to depend on the strength, courage, and determination of Blue Dog Democrats, and Moderate Republicans... so yeah, we're pretty much hosed.

Posted by: sharrukin at March 14, 2010 08:11 PM (593B

Like I said on another thread, scratch a Blue Dog, uncover a spineless, gutless turd.

58 42 #37  Whats wrong with sex on the first date?

Because people should have more respect for themselves than to give themselves up to each other after just one night?



Dude..you gotta get out a live your life..I'm not advocating going out and being promiscuous (though it was fun in college) but when the chemistry is there...go for the hot, sweaty, animal love making.

59 OT--

Fiorina releases web video casting Barbara Boxer as....ZARDOZ???

60 I feel like we've already beaten this.  Our side is so far ahead in public opinion, even if this does pass, we could have a massive repeal of it soon after.
They'll never pass it legitimately. And they'll never keep it passed at all.

61 Violate the constitution and your oath of office?

Just quaint notions; no longer applicable; pablum for the rubes.

62 Like I said on another thread, scratch a Blue Dog, uncover a spineless, gutless turd.

Posted by: Blazer at March 14, 2010 08:13 PM (t72+4)

Jason Altmire is trying to talk himself into supporting it now. I think a lot of them will cave when all is said and done.

63 we could have a massive repeal of it soon after.

We probably won't have the votes for veto override.

64 even if this does pass, we could have a massive repeal of it soon after.

Its going to be very hard to un-ring that bell.

65
I feel like we've already beaten this.  Our side is so far ahead in public opinion, even if this does pass, we could have a massive repeal of it soon after.
They'll never pass it legitimately. And they'll never keep it passed at all.

Posted by: Z Ryan at March 14, 2010 08:14 PM (cMo6P)

If they go the Slaughter route, a Republican majority might not even need to get its hands dirty. SCOTUS may do it for them on unconstitutionality.

66 60 I feel like we've already beaten this.  Our side is so far ahead in public opinion, even if this does pass, we could have a massive repeal of it soon after.

I admire your optimism and I hope it's correct.  But the Dems are counting on the "you-can-never-repeal-entitlements" rule to keep Obamacare in, despite it's illegitimacy. 

67 Why are they promoting a vote? Communists don't believe in voting they believe in decree.

68 So if they pass this, however they do it, can we stop it with the sob stories?

69 These cockholsters are so funny that it's beyond the pale.

70 "We probably won't have the votes for veto override."

I give the GOP about a 90% chance of taking the House, but there's no way it'll be a 2/3 majority.  I give the GOP about a 10% chance of taking over the Senate: they'd have to essentially run the board nationwide to do that, keeping in mind Joe Biden's tie-breaker.  Even if they did, their majority would be one vote.  So, unfortunately, that "probably" is more like "definitely."

71 I'm optimistic, maybe naive.  But I can see these entitlements being repealed. The movement against this is historic, as it should be.  I could see this country being gone in a quarter century if this passes.  An economy can only sustain so much.

72 Fuck you 52%.

73 Could someone quickly explain "Ginger." I miss a few threads and its like life has evolved without me. Thanks in advance.

74
Wasn't there a situation in 2007 where they put up a bogus vote total in the house and got away with it?

75 A ginger is a common term for a pale red-head freckled person.  They disintegrate in sunlight.

76 73,

Think redhead.

77 "...the Dems are counting on the "you-can-never-repeal-entitlements" rule to keep Obamacare in, despite it's illegitimacy."

However, remember that the new taxes kick in immediately but everything else doesn't start until 2014.  It's not as hard to repeal an entitlement that no one has gotten a handout from yet.

78 60 I feel like we've already beaten this.  Our side is so far ahead in public opinion, even if this does pass, we could have a massive repeal of it soon after.
They'll never pass it legitimately. And they'll never keep it passed at all.

This is what I meant when I said I can't trust what anyone's telling me -- both sides are so adamant that it's impossible to get an accurate, dispassionate assessment of the situation. Something tells me that if/when this thing gets voted down, they'll just keep doing it again, harder, until it finally goes through. It's the same tactic as the kid who won't stop asking his parents for something until they're finally so worn down that they say yes just to shut him up. (The parents in this case being the congressional opposition.)

79

If this thing passes or some form of it does, just make sure to prepare yourself for the white red hot outrage that will accompany the initial blinding white hot one when you find out how many billions of dollars of your money and mine that Nancy had to use for bribe money to get those last few yes votes and screw us all with.

80 50% of the time brown drapes mean a red carpet

81 75,

Now hold up on that carwash grasshopper, I like freckled faced wimmenz.

82 I ain't singing.

83 Could someone quickly explain "Ginger." I miss a few threads and its like life has evolved without me.

It's like wanting to beat a red-headed step child or something.

84

WHATEVER THEY SAY IS A LIE!

85 73 Could someone quickly explain "Ginger." I miss a few threads and its like life has evolved without me.

I'll let Eric Cartman explain it for you.

/The real-life footage wasn't in the episode.

86

The only time they ever speak the truth is by accident or whenever it suite their purpose!

87 50% of the time brown drapes mean a red carpet

If you refrain from wiping your ass on the drapes, your wife won't stab you in the heart.

88 63, not unless the dems get slaughtered in November and Obama loses in 2012.
If so health care, especially the single payer option will become TOXIC in elections like Gun Control.

89

Someone posted on an earlier thread that the congressonal newsletter posted that they were two up this afternoon. (i.e. they had the votes +1).

We'll know for sure Monday. If they vote call for a vote Monday they have the votes, if they don't then they don't.

90 Without a repub president, we would need 2 election tsunamis to get enough senators, which would probably have to have some wins in deep blue states.  In math terms, if we get to 47 this november, the next election we would need 20 more democrat seats and keep all republican seats.  Those would have to come out of an election that has 33 seats up for grabs.

We need to kill this bastard now. DEAD.

91
87
Grandma screamed twice before she passed
First when I puked on the carpet and again when I wiped my mouth with the drapes

92
Hello morons.  2 Zeigenbocks in, and we feel fine.

93 they had the votes +1

I don't believe that.  If Pelosi had that, the vote would have been called immediately within the hour.

94
90 DON'T BRING THAT BULLSHIT IN HERE!

95

Evenin', homies.

So apparently Joe the Biden is coming here tomorrow to do a fundraiser for our little Corky from Life Goes On-Steve Dreishaus. They're trying to buy his votes. Vote yes and we'll continue to come here and fundraise. I think it's cute they think that anyone even gives a shit what they have to say.

Dreihaus voted yes the first time 'round and claims, being Catholic, he can't in good conscience vote for the Senate version lighter on abortion restrictions.

The polling done here shows that 93% of people said Dreihaus' health care vote will determine how they vote in November.

He sees the writing on the wall. Sadly for him, with a yes vote for the first time around and a yes vote for climate change, he's one and done.

96

Now hold up on that carwash grasshopper, I like freckled faced wimmenz.

That's why I like you! I still have red hair (mostly) but I lost my freckles over the years

97 TheyÂ’ve been looking to us to create an unconstitutional and unsavory way to do it.

98 91 Beto,

How's that beautiful wife of yours doing, I know she has her hands full with you she told me that at the meetup.  haha

99
They don't have shit.  They have 3rd World bullshit ideas that they're going to try and pull, and we will slap them down right quick.

100 "Whats wrong with sex on the first date?" That's it, Buster. I'm suing for trademark infringement.

101 So, who is playing Andie McDowell in this remake?

102 Gingers a bit of a rare breed. Genetics have given them pale skin, freckles and red to blonde hair. They mainly inhabit Scandanavian countries and are recognized by their stunning good looks. Gingers are also famous for their sexual prowess.

103 101 So, who is playing Andie McDowell in this remake?

Cher?  *shivers*

104 27

Let me get this straight:

1. If they can't get the votes to pass the Senate bill, they're going to pass a "correction" bill separately, meant to proscribe the changes the House wants to see (i.e. abortion language)

2. They will then change the House rule and deem the Senate bill as having passed the House.

3. The conference committee will merge the corrections bill and the Senate bill and send it to Obama to sign.

Am I describing the Slaughter option accurately?  Seriously, I don't quite understand how this will work.

Grateful for any explanation.

Yeah, I think I saw this on an episode of Schoolhouse Rock

105 I always feel much smarter after getting my questions answered here, as opposed to say, wiki. Thanks again.

106 No one wants to be vote number 216.  There will be folks who won't mind being vote 215 or 217, but no one wants to touch 216.  If this crap sandwich ends up passing, the person who is 216 will go down in infamy.  I think that's part of the reason these turds aren't ready to vote yet.

107
That's it, Buster. I'm suing for trademark infringement.

Honestly, I'd load up on the Valtrex and erythromycin and hit Lohan like a screen door in a hurricane.

108
98
It's a double handful. That's just one of the reasons she loves me so much.
She's been feelin' poorly 'Nam. Psoriatic Arthritis

109 96,

Shatzie I'm 62 and haven't lost a thing, except maybe my mind, but I'm hell in a minute with a rucksack, ammo and a weapon.

110 #102  They mainly inhabit Scandanavian countries and are recognized by their stunning good looks. Gingers are also famous for their sexual prowess.

Uh, not necessarily true, *nervous laughter*.

111
94?  what bullshit?

112

Hell yeah, Mr. Grunt is the bull that says "let's WALK down there and fuck'em all".

113 108,

Pass my love to her Beto, great lady you have there.

114
'Nam, #108 is to you

115 Honestly, I'd load up on the Valtrex and erythromycin and hit Lohan like a screen door in a hurricane.

Don't forget the bacon grease. Lots of bacon grease.

116
Don't forget the bacon grease. Lots of bacon grease.

Oh, well the bacon grease is implied of course.

117

Dreihaus voted yes the first time 'round and claims, being Catholic, he can't in good conscience vote for the Senate version lighter on abortion restrictions.

The polling done here shows that 93% of people said Dreihaus' health care vote will determine how they vote in November.

He sees the writing on the wall. Sadly for him, with a yes vote for the first time around and a yes vote for climate change, he's one and done.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at March 14, 2010 08:31 PM (aNRy1)

They're not worried one bit about not staying in office as this huge entitlement program will create a beaurocracy so large it can be stuffed to the gills with cronies for political favors.

118 y'all should be watching The Punisher. Now there's a real movie. They even kill a rat FBI agent.

119 #114 Don't forget the bacon grease. Lots of bacon grease.

What's that do?  Is that for Dang's eyes?

120

Uh, not necessarily true, *nervous laughter*.

Speak for yourself.

(dude, work with me)

121
111
The last line of #90

122 109 96,

Shatzie I'm 62 and haven't lost a thing, except maybe my mind, but I'm hell in a minute with a rucksack, ammo and a weapon.

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at March 14, 2010 08:35 PM (QwzXa)

 

Darling, I am 54, have perfect eyes but my arms are to short, so if you have a 12 gauge and buckshot in your rucksack I will follow you anywhere

123 Fuck off, anyhu.

124 I'll believe it when I don't see it.

125 The last line of #90

Posted by: Beto at March 14, 2010 08:39 PM (H+LJc)

Think he's talking about the bill.

126 #118  They're not worried one bit about not staying in office as this huge entitlement program will create a beaurocracy so large it can be stuffed to the gills with cronies for political favors.

Yeah, but they'll be feasting off a corpse, as our currency will then be truly just toilet paper, there will be no more increases of GDP over 0.5 in a year, and China will probably annex Cali as payment for all the debt of ours they own.

And then...there will be only chaos, in the end.

127 Let me clarify for your Beto since you are apparently reading wrong.

We need to kill this bastard HEALTH CARE BILL now. DEAD.

Capiche?

128 123,

Oh yeah, I have many and the only ammo I buy for them is 00!

129 The Punisher: I have work to do. Read your newspaper everyday and you'll understand. Joan: Which section? The Punisher: Obituaries.

130

26 Didn't Prometheus teach the humans to cheat Zeus out of a real meat sacrifice?  And look how that turned out for him.

Zeus secretly loves offel, but he's got to keep the denizens knowing who's the boss.

 

131 Candelaria: Vaya con Dios, Castle. Go with God. Frank Castle: God's going to sit this one out

132 In certain extreme situations, the law is inadequate. In order to shame its inadequacy, it is necessary to act outside the law. To pursue... natural justice. This is not vengeance. Revenge is not a valid motive, it's an emotional response. No, not vengeance. Punishment.

133 #131  Zeus secretly loves offel, but he's got to keep the denizens knowing who's the boss.

The gods are petty and pathetic, and Zeus's rule is weak.

134
And then...there will be only chaos, in the end.

Up on the Edwards Plateau
A sturdy Red Oak does grow
I live in its shade
With a rifle and blade
Their faces they better not show

135 I saw Marg Helgengerg in an older movie doing a shower scene. I guess she meets the requirements for a Ginger.

136

"124 Fuck off, anyhu. "

 

HAHAHAHAH  We are SO welcoming aren't we?

137 It's schizophrenia central in this thread right now....

138
128 Thanks for that clarification. It sounded rough to passersby

139 they're not going stop until this country is a smoking ruin.

140 #137  HAHAHAHAH  We are SO welcoming aren't we?

Not with people who post annoying links to loanfaqs.

/Want some spyware and viruses with your loan application?

141 no prob.

142 We need Kill Bill Vol. 3.

143

HAHAHAHAH  We are SO welcoming aren't we?

Hey! That's me being polite.

144

Do DPS control the Foundation or outside group? If an outside group control the foundation, then what is DPS Board row with selection of is director? Our we mixing DPS and None DPS row's, and who is the watch dog?

 

 

?

145 What was the name of the supposed actor cockholster in Braveheart that told that joooo Gibson "we are fucked", best line I ever heard in a movie.

146
140 they're not going stop until this country is a smoking ruin.

Well they've already ruined smoking so we don't even have that to calm our nerves as the ship sinks.

147 #144  Hey! That's me being polite.

And what happens when you aren't polite?

/I think I know.

148

Me am named OTIS!

!

149 What was the name of the supposed actor

Not sure, except that it was HIS Ireland.

150 #147  Well they've already ruined smoking so we don't even have that to calm our nerves as the ship sinks.

Well, embrace chaos.  It works for me.

151 If the progs get their way and we can't play on here anymore then we'll have to gather in person face to face, fright wingers for sure.

152 Well, as of now, We The People are bringin' it.  I'm psyched to see Michelle Bachman and Mike Pence again on Tuesday morning.  I'm thinking of writing Don't Slaughter the Constitution on my sign or U.S.S.R and crossing out the last two letters.  For anyone into signs for the Last Gasp/Death Rattle rally on Tuesday or the 4/15 Tax Day Tea Party rallies, you can get foam board at the Dollar Store. 

153
151
I'll embrace my Garand with a fixed bayonet

154
I saw Marg Helgengerg in an older movie doing a shower scene. I guess she meets the requirements for a Ginger.

Posted by: bergerbilder at March 14, 2010 08:44 PM (S1Ttj)

For the love of god what was name of it ?

155 #146  David O'Hara was that actor's name, according to IMDB.

156 Excellent.

157

103

I'm just trying to figure out how this "Slaughter" option could even be remotely Constitutional. 

IF they do execute this plan, I'm wondering if the Supreme Court might take this up immediately, emergency-style like Bush v. Gore.  On the surface, it seems like it would be a 9-0 slam dunk rejection. 

 

158 So brave of Eric Cartman to warn us about the ginger menace.

159 _{Posted by: RushBabe at March 14, 2010 08:51 PM (LKkE}

Do both, 2 sides to every coin sign.

160 From the Daily News:

It's time to pull the plug

"Health reform: Down the stretch it comes. President Obama has gone so far as to postpone an overseas trip in a last-ditch push to get a comprehensive reform bill to his desk.

He shouldn't waste his energy.

Not with unemployment justifiably the nation's top concern and the possibility of a double-dip recession still looming. Remember how Obama said, in his State of the Union reboot, "Jobs must be our No. 1 focus in 2010"? Well, apparently he doesn't.

Not with the American people abandoning the President's prescription in huge numbers. Just one in four voters supports the reform bill as written; half want Congress to start over. Compare that with the popular support other major pieces of social legislation enjoyed before passage, like welfare reform (68%), Medicare (63%) and civil rights (60%)."

161

What was the name of the supposed actor cockholster in Braveheart that told that joooo Gibson "we are fucked", best line I ever heard in a movie.

Stephen: "The Almighty says don't change the subject just answer the fucking question!"

162

Mike Pence is holding a Kill the Bill rally tomorrow at the IN Statehouse.

I can't get there in time from work, but my friends are going. They had Fright Winger shirts made today. Can't wait to see the pics!

163 I have to say Ann Margret was the best ginger of all time, although a very young Lucy was catchable.

164 more...

"Not with health care costs having risen 73% over the last decade - with Medicaid growing at 21% a year - and showing no signs of coming down to Earth. Controlling costs is the absolute, unconditional, a-blind-man-could-see-it prerequisite for expanding coverage.

Not with American health care quality actually quite impressive in many respects, including world-leading rates for patients surviving cancer and among the shortest wait times for hard-to-find treatments and surgeries.

Not with a half-dozen accounting gimmicks built into the legislation - including the fact that federal budget projections are based on 10 years worth of tax collections and just six years of spending increases.

Not with the Senate, lacking even a single Republican vote, having to resort to reconciliation, a little-used parliamentary maneuver, to get it through. Sure, it's been used before - but not on anything that has such limited public support.

..."

165 It's a trick.  Get an axe.

166 Stephen: God tells me he can get me out of this mess, but he's pretty sure you're fucked.

167 Votes? Who the fuck said anything about "votes"?

168

embrace chaos

...has a future as a bumper sticker.

169

"Hey! That's me being polite. "

My kinda woman. 

 

Kratos... thanks for pointing out the obvious. Not sure how I'd make it through life without all the help.

170 low
knee shoes?

171

Think about it: all the Dems have to do is say "OK, let's just start over and do it exactly the way Obama promised we would." and you know what, they might get a bill!

But that way they would not get 100% of the credit, and they would not get 100% of the power.

So what do they really want: a) Healthcare, or b) all the credit and all the power?

I'll take b), for the mortgage, Alex.

172 1st stop for me tomorrow is the t-shirt joint for fright winger shirts with an ace of spades as big as I can get it on the back, black, red, navy, white and yellow.

173

Stephen: God tells me he can get me out of this mess, but he's pretty sure you're fucked.

That's it.

174 It's a trick.  Get an axe.

Posted by: rdbrewer at March 14, 2010 08:55 PM (f75zG)

Possible!

You know they may be saying they don't have the votes as a way to pressure fence sitting Democrats to come on board.

175 Stephen, That's the quote thx.

176

Axlerod was daring the GOP to run against Obamacare next November.  Translation:  "Please pass Obamacare.  You can always run against it.  We need this win really bad.  Please."

Axlerod, master of reverse psychology. 

177 177,

Talking about someone that would twirl it around in his mouth.

178 #170  Kratos... thanks for pointing out the obvious. Not sure how I'd make it through life without all the help.

You're quite welcome, sarca-saurus.  You've got much to learn from me though../sarc.

179

Michelle Bachman had a Kill the Bill rally with Ed Morrisey in St. Paul one day last week.  A couple people brought pitchforks!  (They were asked to stand in the back.)  It was about 40 degrees and they had between 1,500-3,000 people if memory serves (from the Hot Air article).

If someone would manufacture life-sized pitchforks and torches out of heavy-gauge cardboard, they'd make a mint!

180 166 It's a trick.  Get an axe.

Posted by: rdbrewer at March 14, 2010 08:55 PM (f75zG)

We'll swallow your SOUL, America.

181 You know, if the day of the vote comes and the Dem whips haven't assured the caucus that it is going to pass, it will be interesting if it all starts to fall apart. Because you know the no votes are a hell of a lot more solid than the yes votes at this point. If any doubt that this thing is going to pass creeps into the chamber at the time of the vote there could be a Dem stampede away from it at the last minute, and an epic legislative FAIL for Obama and Pelosi. My Congressman as of Thursday is refusing to tell constituents how he will vote. That tells me he's a whipped yes vote, but wouldn't hesitate to cash in a no vote if the bill was going to fail. Popcorn time.

182
Axelturf is a greasy, slimy mofo, ain't he?  I wouldn't trust him around a group of kids alone or unsecured currency, that's for sure.

183 Marry an Asian girl.  They can't have ginger kids.  It's the only way to be safe.

184

ZRyan, as the mother of teenaged and young adult daughters, I just want to commend you for your stance on how you treat a young lady when you are dating.  It is quite chivalrous of you, and I guarantee her parents appreciate it as well.  In this day and age, it is refreshing to hear that young men are still willing to treat young women with respect.

As to all of this rigamarole - what a mess!  The good thing is that people in this country are MAD, and on Tuesday, the members of Congress are going to see just how angry they are.  If that doesn't sway their vote, then may God have mercy on their souls - they're going to need it....

185

1st stop for me tomorrow is the t-shirt joint for fright winger shirts with an ace of spades as big as I can get it on the back, black, red, navy, white and yellow.

 

Really could use the skull and cross-swords too NG

186 Posted by: Caustic Conservative at March 14, 2010 09:06 PM (qVVsi)

What his name?

187 Thanks, Teresa.

Mama didn't raise no jive turkey.

188 Theresa, he only acts that way because he's ashamed of his penis.

189
Red hair is a recessive neanderthal gene, isn't it?

Neandethal chicks were hot.

190
Axelturf is a greasy, slimy mofo, ain't he?  I wouldn't trust him around a group of kids alone or unsecured currency, that's for sure.

Posted by: Dang Straights at March 14, 2010 09:06 PM (WIWkv)

The guy has probably the worst comb-over in the history of comb-overs and a porno-stache that looks like a bunch of rats got together and built a nest on his upper lip.

191

All the ladies like us should get shirts made that say something like "If I'm part of the fright wing what wing does Haglosi belong to".

I'd buy that shirt. I'd wear that shirt. Hell, I'd never take that shirt off.

192

"You've got much to learn from me though"

I'll keep that in mind     

193 The money quote: "TheyÂ’ve been looking to us to create a way to do it." Of course, the only "way" to do it is to VOTE ON THE FUCKING THING, up or down; yea or nay. No more changes, no more amendments, no more bribes, no more bullshit.

Of course, the "way" they've figured out is the Slaughter Solution, and if they pass this turd that way, we're going to have even bigger problems than ObamaCare itself.

194 What his name? Bruce Braley. He's supposed to be in a "safe" Dem district, but has gotten a lot more sheepish since the TARP, stimulus, and cap and trade bills in the House. He was a yes vote last time.

195 My Congressman as of Thursday is refusing to tell constituents how he will vote.

That's a congressman who doesn't want to keep his job this November.  I'd tell their staffers, if they won't say how he's going to vote, then I'm automatically voting against him in November.  AUTOMATICALLY.  Non-negotiable.  Pre-ordained.  Immutable.

196 Jesus, I need to come here more to bone up on teh funny.  This is like the graduate school of political commentary humor.  I'm on FB too much.  You can be a god on Facebook with a solid B- in political humor.  And I have been slipping.

197

189

Don't worry: after next week there will be FREE CLINICS on every corner!!!!!  Huzzah!!!

198

I'd buy that shirt. I'd wear that shirt. Hell, I'd never take that shirt off. Posted by: laceyunderalls

And you just guaranteed no moron will ever produce that shirt.

199 189 Theresa, he only acts that way because he's ashamed of his penis.

Or maybe he's honorable?

/It's not easy to even say that you want to not engage in that activity until marriage.  I made the mistake of saying that on the Junior High football team and I was deemed a "fag"...until I knocked a few of those bastards on their ass during practice.  Then they were more respectful.

200 I would jump for joy to have axelshithead in my platoon for basic when I was a Drill he would be in a perpetual dying cockroach position.

201 That's true, though.  In reality-world.  Use it to pee out of until you're married.  In reality-world.

202 Bruce Braley. He's supposed to be in a "safe" Dem district, but has gotten a lot more sheepish since the TARP, stimulus, and cap and trade bills in the House. He was a yes vote last time.

Posted by: Caustic Conservative at March 14, 2010 09:11 PM (qVVsi)

Braley was swept in the horrible GOP year of '06 and re-elected in the uber-fluke nightmare GOP year of '08. I wouldn't consider his seat "safe" at all.

203 Want to see something really scary, don't blame me if you click over.  You've been warned.

http://tiny.cc/d8yz9

204 #199  And you just guaranteed no moron will ever produce that shirt.

*sighs*, and I just defended your honor, Ryan, and you make that sort of statement.

205 Watch up the ass scene is on AMC right now.





Pulp Fiction.

206 Hey, I wasn't talking about me.  I meant the other Morons.  I had no such lewd thoughts.

207

204 Want to see something really scary, don't blame me if you click over.  You've been warned.

 

Coulda sworn that was a photoshop.  no?

208 207 Hey, I wasn't talking about me.  I meant the other Morons.  I had no such lewd thoughts.

Fair enough.

209 TheyÂ’ve been looking to us to create a way to do it.

In others words, find some way we can vote for something besides this bill, hence the Slaughter idea. 

That is not going to fly, they are sucking wind.

210 If Braley think he's safe, he's not.  There's only a tiny handful of truly unassailable districts and they're reserved for the house royalty like Pelosi. 

Gerrymandering creates "safe" districts that stay "safe" during normal times.  BUT, these are not normal times.  A 10-15% swing the other way can destroy any "safe" gerrymandered advantage.  That 10-15% can come from independents, defecting democrats or extraordinary Republican turnout.

If the double-dip comes between now and then, which seems quite likely, the Democrats will be blamed because they've already vociferously taken credit for the "recovery"; hence they own it all now.  I doubt even the media would allow them to pin the blame for a double dip on Bush at this point.

211

I'm watching " Goldfinger" at the moment:

James "blue dog" Bondocrat:" Do you expect me to
vote for THIS"......

Nancy Pelosi: "No Mr. Bondocrat.....I expect you to

DIE!"

 

212

Dude! (and ettes)

Peter Graves died?

*sniffle*

Joey, have you ever been in a Turkish prison?

213

Dude! (and ettes)

Peter Graves died?

*sniffle*

Joey, have you ever been in a Turkish prison?

Posted by: laceyunderalls at March 14, 2010 09:19 PM (aNRy1)

Damn.


Joey, have you ever seen a grown man naked ?

214
Do you like movies about gladiators?



RIP, funnyman.

215 Joey, do you like movies about gladiators?

216 The pit is right for my t-bone and left over shrimp from yesterday and a nice garden salad. See you guys on the flipflop.

217 215 Beat me to it!

218 Kinda makes me wish we had a supreme ayatollah--he wouldn't accept anything from this woman.  If we were like Saudi Arabia, we could just fly to the United States for medical treatment. 

219

@218 that's right, in your FACE, lacey!  Woooooo!   U-S-A!  U-S-A!

220 11 If Braley think he's safe, he's not. There's only a tiny handful of truly unassailable districts and they're reserved for the house royalty like Pelosi. Gerrymandering creates "safe" districts that stay "safe" during normal times. BUT, these are not normal times. A 10-15% swing the other way can destroy any "safe" gerrymandered advantage. That 10-15% can come from independents, defecting democrats or extraordinary Republican turnout. If the double-dip comes between now and then, which seems quite likely, the Democrats will be blamed because they've already vociferously taken credit for the "recovery"; hence they own it all now. I doubt even the media would allow them to pin the blame for a double dip on Bush at this point. I don't believe Braley actually is in a safe district this go around, but the 1st district of Iowa hasn't fielded a good candidate yet. Braley gets by with a lot of union dough and support from the DCCC as a 99% caucus vote. IF the GOP can fied a candidate worth a crap this go around, Braley could be toast. But election analysis I have read always counts Iowa-1 as safe Dem. Go figure. Braley's coyness tells you what you need to know.

221

Red hair is a recessive neanderthal gene, isn't it?

That's what I thought too but evidently it's "incomplete dominate" whatever that means.

Redhead chicks are smokin'!

222 RIP, Mr. Graves.

223

Of course, they have to have the "reconciliation" portion of the bill actually WRITTEN first.  Plus, they will have to vote to allow the Slaughter rule to be used before they can go forward.

Just print up a lot of really LARGE signs with "WANTED: For Crimes against America and the Constitution" posters on it and then paste on pictures of the Congresscritters who are going to vote Yes.

Oh, and be sure and send them all very nice letters letting them know how Ben Nelson was treated after he voted for the Senate bill, and be sure that they know that Tea Partiers will make sure that their pictures are distributed to EVERY right-wing blog, so that they can be shunned wherever they go in this country.....

224

Shiiiiiit man, ya know what they say--see a broad to get dat booty yak'em, leg her down and smack 'em yak 'em!

225 Use it to pee out of until you're married. Great advice. I ended up with a worn-out wife and 7 rotten kids.

226 215
Do you like movies about gladiators?

RIP.  I never knew he was the source of that question.

/Yes, I do.

227

Don't forget Peter Graves' role in Stalag 17 as the German mole..."No, I don't sprechen zie deutsch!"

228
/Yes, I do.

That explains so, soo much.

229 #229  That explains so, soo much.

Because I thought Gladiator was great, despite not being very historically accurate?

230 204 Want to see something really scary, don't blame me if you click over.  You've been warned.

http://tiny.cc/d8yz9

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at March 14, 2010 09:14 PM (ympF

Nancy Pelosi Official Portrait

231 Any truism the rumor John couger Mellencamp runnin for congress ? What state?  He'll Make it hurt so Good. Little Pink House, for you n me.

232 Evil Dead 2 is such a cool mindfuck of a movie. First saw it on cable back in the 1980s. Came home tripping acid and turned on the television and there it was. Needless to say, the film made an indelible impression.

233

SPOOGE!

 

234 232 Any truism the rumor John couger Mellencamp runnin for congress ? What state?  He'll Make it hurt so Good. Little Pink House, for you n me.

Posted by: Woolie at March 14, 2010 09:34 PM (Z9ikA)

 

Cougar is from Indiana.   There is a facebook petition for him to be the next senator.  He is a left wing loon.

Wont happen.. Bayh announced his retirement when it was too late for a primary.. so the party will pick the candidate.. it wont be Cougar.

235

I would, I think at this time in my life, rather have the Greatful Dead in charge of dispensing drugs, and running this country.

Dont see a way it could be worse. really.

Its Kool Aid, drink it Man!

236 What did the Deadhead say when the drugs wore off?

"Man, this music sucks!"

237

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238

237

Only tune I liked by the bums was Casey Jones. better watch youre speed etc!

239

OK

Maybe goin to hell in in a bucket too.

AC-DC is so much more spot on, in these contests.

 

240 LO! NEED TISSUES?

241

they don't have the votes and they won't use the slaughter solution. How is it that alot of dems will not use the reconciliation process cuz it wasn't meant for this but they will make it up as they go, violate the constitution and effectively destroy all law?

You've got the same handful of corrupt idiots making the slaughter claim that made the  redconciliation clai.m: Pelosi, Ried, Gibbs, Hoyer. Notice the dogs that aren't barking. How many Dems that voted yes the first time have not spoken publically how they will vote this time? Abot 200? As if Pelosi would allow them to go on record. And how is it that they would use an illegal and impeachable tactic AND let it be known they were going to almost 2 weeks before voting? If they were going to use it, they would have either done it immediatly or kept it completely queit so it wouldn't get out

I can't help but think they are pushing people with insane ideas they "have the votes for" in the hopes people wil ldo something stupid. All but the insane leaders were queasy about reconcilliation, they are even queasier about throwing all law in this country out. It's the same lefty tactic we have seen again and again-up the ante to try and make your opponent afraid. Big mistake on their part, it just made people that didn't feel strongly about it, now livid.

242 Intrade has ObamaCare passing at 63% so go ahead and put your money where you think When Ace last posted the odds it was at what 50% so get in now while it is cheap

243 239: My grandparents used to live about a half-mile down the road from Verizon Music Center in Noblesville, and every summer the Deadheads would come through, clogging up the roads, peeing in their front yard and generally making a mess of things. Our town actually had to schedule the county fair around the Dead (and later Phish) tour so there wouldn't be trouble. I dislike them on principle more than anything.

244 Since this bill cannot be repealed.  Nukes not be put back in arsenal..Our friends like Japan cannot be wooed back..Israel has been thrown to the wolves....amnesty.....the list goes on and on...is America now Europe or worse?

245

Well, if the black minority whip(Clyburn) implies that

Pelosi is full of shit.....who am I to argue?

246

If they actually expected Slaughter solution would be used instead of it being an empty threat to scare people, why not just "deem" reconcilliation can be used in the first place? Instead we are supposed to believe they went 5 steps further trying something that would shred the constituion? Bullshit

247

we have the votes - we don't have the votes - we have the votes - we don't have the votes  - all we want is an up or down vote - we have the votes - we don't have the votes - we will see what is in the bill when we pass it - we have the votes - we don't have the votes - and let me just say - we have the votes - we don't have the votes - partisan or not - we have the votes - we don't have the votes 

248 How do you reconcile two bills with a bill that's larger than either?   W. T. F ? !

249 I have a jacket in every color so that my shoes and purse always match my straight jacket!

250 So what are the Pubbies saying they will do if the extra-Constitutional Slaughter method is used?  I haven't heard a peep about trials or asking the Sergeant at Arms to arrest the offenders, or even about asking the Supreme Court to intervene.  Are they asleep at the wheel.

And yeah, if it passes there will be no way to get 60 votes for a repeal... but does that mean that Congress has to fund it? 

251 Since when have votes mattered to this lot?

252 Of course they don't have the votes, yet.  As soon as they do Polozo will heard them together for a vote with the speed of light.

253 As has been pointed out, they can't NOT pass this.  If they walk away, it's the biggest failure of the entire Democrat party, and shows that they cannot govern, all they can do is snipe at critics.

They've been working on this POS since Obama took office, and more than a year later, they're gonna say, "Sorry, it's too hard"?  Even their tools in the MSM would have to notice what a huge failure they are at this point. 

254 Right, like the Nazis couldn't NOT conquer the world. If they lose, they've lost. Unfortunately, we may all be older and wiser by they time they are forced to concede defeat.

255

Don't forget: by 2012 many of the dumbasses in favor of this Obamacare monstrosity in the abstract are gonna be really disappointed and pissed off when they have to actually deal with its consequences.

A lot of them will  turn on the Dems who deceived them into thinking O'care would be a boon, a blessing, a panacea, etc.

I refuse to think we can't turn this Obamanation back:  the day the American people have no say in their own governance, that day the USA ends as a republic. 

I don't think it's gonna happen without a fight.

Lotta guns out there...........a couple hundred million of them. Most belong to "us".

 

256 If President Obama was reading Sun Tzu instead of Alisnky, he would not have gotten into this mess. But he is following ideology, ideology does not make good strategy. His entire plan was to socialize America, and this HC plan as the surefire way to do it, according to the said ideology. He did not examine the conditions he would be operating in, support was not on his side, the political winds were not in his favor. The public is more concerned about JOBS in a economy with a national unemployment of 10% with it as high as 30% in some places.

Here are a rundown of Obama's problem according to Sun Tzu,

The Moral Law: The leaders and rank and file must believe in the cause. While Obama, Pelosi and Reid are behind this not many democrats are as they are more concerned how this will effect their election come NOV 2010.

Heaven: This is the conditions He is operating under. The Political Situation is not in his favor, the public is more concerned about jobs not health care.

Earth: This is about logistics, getting the message out. For a community organizer and campaigner, he has had trouble getting the message out as the Tea Parties and private citizens have taken charge of the debate and turned it to their favor. Obama has been trying to rally the troops , SEIU, ACORN and college kids. Kids should be behind him as they came out in drove to vote in the elections, they too are more worried about the economy, 18-35's are not all that worried about Health Care at this point, many are becoming disillusioned on the president as well.

257

27 : Clarification Request

Ok, as I understand the Slaughter proposal, more or less it would work something like this.  The House has passed one version of Obamacare, the Senate passed a much different version.  In order to be eligible for reconciliation, a bill first has to become law.  Now, in order for this thing to become law, either the House has to pass the Senate version and have it signed by the president, or the Senate would have to pass the House version and have it signed.

Since there is no way to get the House version passed in the Senate, their concentrating on getting the Senate version passed in the House.  The problem is that most House members don't really like a lot of what's in the Senate version, and once this thing is signed into law all the Senate has to do is deny any changes and reconciliation dies and the Senate version is still law.

Since a lot of House members don't trust the Senate, the "Slaughter Rule" is basically and end run around this process.  The House would "deem" the Senate version into law without really voting on it or having the president sign it.  Then they would make revisions to it, and then present that for reconciliation.  The Senate version would never actually be enacted into law so the House members wouldn't have to depend on the Senate to keep it's word and fix it after the fact.

In essence it's a total short circuit of our Constitution.  The House does not have the authority to "deem" something into law.  In order to be considered a law it has to pass both the house and the Senate by 2/3 majority vote and be signed by the President, period, according to Article 1 Section 7 of the United States Constitution.

However unless it is already a law it can't be considered for the reconciliation process to begin with, so basically what were looking at here is a monumentally terrifying power grab.  If this is allowed to stand you'd no longer need a 2/3's majority vote in either house to get a law passed, just a simple majority and you could pass any legislation you wanted, something our founders were absolutely crystal clear on, that is a huge no no.

So if they do manage to pull off this serious feat of legislative prestidigitation you might as well shred the Constitution, because it will no longer be worth the paper it's printed on.  Not sure what's worse, the fact that they even suggested such a thing or the fact that as of yet almost no one in the media has started screaming bloody murder over this, because they should be and they shouldn't stop until this whole "Slaughter Rule" nonsense is stopped dead in its tracks.

 

258 Any Congress-critter who votes to use the "Slaughter Rule" should resign

259 Hate to come in so late, but... I think the commenters above who think the Dems don't have the votes have underestimated the huge power the leadership has to bribe members to vote yes.  Goodies to the rep's state, campaign finance help, even job offers with the administration if the rep loses in November, amount to a huge, very tangible benefit.

Against this is the vague, unquantifiable notion that Obamacare is a huge power-grab by govt, or that it will worsen the deficit.  First, what Dem gives a crap about either point?  And second, such charges can easily be dismissed as merely speculation by conservatives.

Pelosi/Reid/Obie have put all their prestige into passing this, which means that *literally*, no bribe is too big or too brazen to be ruled out.  Show me a congresswhore who will refuse the biggest bribe the Dem leaders (spit) can offer--I'd be most surprised to find even one.  And remember, Pelosi-Reid-Obie can work on ALL the no's, and only have to turn 2 or 3.  And once they have the votes, the gravy train stops.  If you were a congresswhore, you wouldn't want to wait one minute too late, would ya?

InTrade thinks this will pass.  So do I, even though I think it's absolutely wrong.

260 Intrade can't vote on the issue. Hell, my bartender said his dead grandmother told him in a dream that the Colts would win the Superbowl. Speaking of blue pills and death panels, Sarah Palin's latest Facdebook posting:

As I wrote in my first post on this topic, human rights and human dignity must be at the center of any health care discussion. Government health care will not reduce the cost of medical care; it will simply refuse to pay it. And who will get left behind when they have to ration care to save money?

It will not pass. They don't have the votes. The Slaughter strategy will become a bigger albatross than the Alien and Sedition Acts. They're utterly fucked.

261 They've been working on this POS since Obama took office, and more than a year later, they're gonna say, "Sorry, it's too hard"?  Even their tools in the MSM would have to notice what a huge failure they are at this point. 

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at March 15, 2010 01:24 AM (eNxMU)

First, they've been hardly working on it. None of them even read the damn thing! Obama got them all psyched up for this with the Stimulus Bill. They thought the money train was rolling in, but despite the negative nellies here insisting bribes solve everything -- this ain't Chicago.

Obama has never had to deal with opposition, and there are career politicians thinking about the long term. Bribes are all fine and dandy for the here and now, but do you think they would give up their cushy jobs to satisfy his ego? NO. Otherwise, this would have been wrapped up long ago.

Let's revisit his list of failures... shit, someone else can do it. Off the top of my head, Copenhagen, Gitmo, the Olympics. It was an SNL skit.

minx.cc/?post=293198

So, what if he's in a pissing match with Big Dawg? Who cares that he has staked his presidency to this? 20% of the country -- tops -- who continues to see him as Chocolate Jesus and insists he gets his way all the time. Did you get anyone get their unicorn yet?

262 Edit: "In so many words" means exactly what it says: "exactly what it says". In this case, what you needed was, "... though not in so many words."

Literacy is better. Try it!