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September 15, 2010

Dick Morris: Immoderate Is The New Moderate
— Ace

Hm. Well. He makes the case that what would be called "extremism" in another year -- on fiscal issues -- is no extremism at all this year.

In this environment, purists of the right have a big advantage because nobody doubts the sincerity with which they embrace the goals of limited government, low taxes, and reduced spending. Politicians of all stripes - including most Democrats - vow allegiance to them as does the overwhelming majority of the electorate. In this environment, the distinctions of left and right give way to the difference between sincerity and insincerity, leaving the voters to judge. With candidates like Sharron Angle in Nevada or Christine O'Donnell in Delaware or DioGuardia in New York, voters don't have to guess. They know real conservatives when they see them.
Of course, Congressman Mike Castle had a big advantage in the Delaware Senate contest because of his name recognition and voter support after having run successfully statewide more than a dozen times (Congressmen in Delaware serve at large). But don't count O'Donnell out. She is the real thing - a conservative small government devotee whose advocacy of low taxes is sincere and heartfelt. The national Republican establishment was stupid and short sighted in the negatives they threw at her during the primary. Now they will have to eat their words at great financial and political cost.
But, in a way, their obduracy gives O'Donnell a great opportunity to run as the anti-establishment candidate, putting a plague on the houses of both parties and calling attention to the corruption of each.

That's a good point. So, Delaware doesn't like Republicans. Well, as the last two weeks have made clear, Christine O'Donnell isn't really a Republican, at least not one that the establishment likes. So: A possible way to sell herself to a skeptical blue state.

To some extent, I sorta think that Dick Morris is doing a little pandering -- wishcasting -- but okay. I can dig some pandering.

He goes on to say that Kirsten Gillibrand may be taken down by New York's new Republican Senate candidate, Joseph DioGuardi.

Posted by: Ace at 02:14 PM | Comments (109)
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1 Maybe the MFM can stop calling Paladino the Tea Party candidate and refer to him as the Republican candidate now.

Posted by: real joe at September 15, 2010 02:16 PM (w7Lv+)

2 Ironic. I was just talking about how extremists don't recognize their own extremism - like me, for example.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at September 15, 2010 02:17 PM (r1h5M)

3 ..... putting a plague on the houses of both parties and calling attention to the corruption of each. Word .

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at September 15, 2010 02:17 PM (XDeui)

4 Forty-four percent of Americans now see the upstart "tea party" movement in a favorable light, according to a new Christian Science Monitor/TIPP poll. What's more, about 40 percent of tea party sympathizers say they would not attend a tea party event, meaning they are essentially "closet admirers" of the small-government movement, says TIPP pollster Raghavan Mayur. "The general party line says the tea party is fringe, but I think most of the public hasn't bought that point of view ... and sees the tea party movement in a positive to neutral light," says Mr. Mayur, president of TechnoMetrica Market Intelligence in Ramsey, N.J., who last weekend oversaw the poll of 908 American adults. "The overarching message here is that Democrats have been in denial about the tea party phenomenon Â… and I think it's coming back to haunt them."

Posted by: The Silent Majority Lives at September 15, 2010 02:19 PM (Hqykm)

5 He goes on to say that Kirsten Gillibrand may be taken down by New York's new Republican Senate candidate, Joseph DioGuardi.

Instant wood.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo ( NJConservative) at September 15, 2010 02:20 PM (LH6ir)

6 In a wave, there's going to be one huge "say what"!? result in that direction.

I would be insanely happy if this gets Gillibrand the hell out.

Posted by: someone at September 15, 2010 02:20 PM (DfAwB)

7 Booooooo.....

Posted by: tea party pheromones at September 15, 2010 02:21 PM (uztAS)

Forty-four percent of Americans now see the upstart "tea party" movement in a favorable light, according to a new Christian Science Monitor/TIPP poll.

That sounds about right considering CNN had a poll showing that over 75% distrusted gov't. Can't be good for a party that bases it's entire platform on government being the peoples' mommy & daddy.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at September 15, 2010 02:22 PM (pLTLS)

9 The problem with Morris is that he is too consistent: He consistently offers good news, and he's consistently wrong. Let's hope this time, he's right.

Posted by: CoolCzech at September 15, 2010 02:23 PM (tJjm/)

10 OH, and about O'Donnell: I'd hit that like Ricky Ricardo sucking on a crack pipe as he performs "BaBaLu."

Posted by: CoolCzech at September 15, 2010 02:24 PM (tJjm/)

11 What DM is saying, essentially, is that we are seeing a preference cascade. People are realizing that their own, previously unexpressed opinions align with those who were previously branded "extreme" or immoderate.

Posted by: angler at September 15, 2010 02:25 PM (SwjAj)

12 I can dig some pandering.

I think we all can, just to take the edge off.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at September 15, 2010 02:26 PM (0q2P7)

13 Posted by: angler at September 15, 2010 06:25 PM (SwjAj) After all... it's the same media that considered Obama moderate and qualified to be President that labelled them extreme.

Posted by: CoolCzech at September 15, 2010 02:26 PM (tJjm/)

14
Small government is 'extreme'. Ok, sure.

Posted by: Dang Straights at September 15, 2010 02:27 PM (fx8sm)

15 "What DM is saying, essentially, is that we are seeing a preference cascade."

The funny thing is, his statement -- even if not true at the time -- could even help *start* the cascade. Remember, except for the few things that people have become (forced to be) informed about, we live in a world of MFM memes.

The "DioGuardi could win" notion would be very, very, very powerful if it caught on.

Posted by: someone at September 15, 2010 02:28 PM (DfAwB)

...obduracy, really.

Posted by: Meggie Mac at September 15, 2010 02:28 PM (RDnvk)

17 i don't understand why anyone pays any attention to dick morris.....talk about creepy.....he's up there with harry reid.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl at September 15, 2010 02:28 PM (eOXTH)

18 Glad to see Mr. Morris is optimistic.

Posted by: Serious Cat at September 15, 2010 02:28 PM (bAySe)

19 fatfortunateslagPuppehtOFF!

Posted by: garrett at September 15, 2010 02:29 PM (RDnvk)

20
As a committed extremist, I remain in favor of lower taxes, limited government, property rights, and the ability to eat any fucking thing I wish without Auntie Michelle getting between me and my skillet of goodness.

Posted by: Fish at September 15, 2010 02:29 PM (v1gw3)

21 He goes on to say that Kirsten Gillibrand may be taken down by New York's new Republican Senate candidate, Joseph DioGuardi.

--What do we know about this cat? Even if he's Scott Brown-ish, I'll take that over a Hillary clone any day.

Posted by: logprof at September 15, 2010 02:30 PM (BP6Z1)

22 "the ability to eat any fucking thing I wish without Auntie Michelle getting between me and my skillet of goodness"

Just be glad it's not Nurse fucking Bloomberg monitoring your diet.

Posted by: someone at September 15, 2010 02:30 PM (DfAwB)

23
As a committed extremist, I remain in favor of lower taxes, limited government, property rights, and the ability to eat any fucking thing I wish without Auntie Michelle getting between me and my skillet of goodness.

We are some kind of nutballs, ain't we Mr. Fish? Whackjobs, even.

Posted by: Dang Straights at September 15, 2010 02:30 PM (fx8sm)

24
i don't understand why anyone pays any attention to dick morris.....talk about creepy.....he's up there with harry reid.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl at September 15, 2010 06:28 PM (eOXTH)

On one occasion, Dick Morris was caught sucking the toes of a chick from Phoenix? No kidding.

Posted by: Fish at September 15, 2010 02:30 PM (v1gw3)

25 bitter clingers

Posted by: phoenixgirl at September 15, 2010 02:30 PM (eOXTH)

26 I am all up in the extremism every day. Twice on Sunday.

Posted by: sifty at September 15, 2010 02:30 PM (nKomG)

27 He goes on to say that Kirsten Gillibrand may be taken down by New York's new Republican Senate candidate, Joseph DioGuardi.

This is very unlikely. Very unlikely.

Now, I can see how it might, in some perfect storm kind of way happen.

Andrew Cuomo is, let me be kind, not well liked. He's at the top of ticket and absolutely no one is thrilled about him. There's no love for him like there was for his dad. In fact, he's kind of hated by people who worked for his dad. Also, he ran a nasty primary a few years back against H. Carl McCall,, the first black elected statewide in NY and whose 'turn' it was to run that year. Cuomo ran him down until the last minute and then bailed on the primary.

I'm not connected into state Dems, especially down in NYC, but I'm guessing there won't be a lot of GOTV efforts on Cuomo's behalf.

Gillibrand isn't much better known than DioGuardi. So if he can make a splash in the debates or get enough TV (I think he's more or less out of money and he ain't getting O'Donnell like money bombs) AND Democrat turn out in NYC is low enough.....maybe. Unlikely but maybe. In NY, Brand D Democrats usually skate by out of nothing but habit.

Posted by: DrewM. at September 15, 2010 02:30 PM (ycZcD)

28 18 i don't understand why anyone pays any attention to dick morris.....talk about creepy.....he's up there with harry reid..... Posted by: phoenixgirl at September 15, 2010 06:28 PM (eOXTH) Those are some mighty cute looking toes you got there, sweety!

Posted by: Dick Morris at September 15, 2010 02:31 PM (tJjm/)

29
Dick Morris? Dick Morris? The "ladies" on The View say he's icky and stuff.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 15, 2010 02:31 PM (UOM48)

30 29 dick morris ick.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl at September 15, 2010 02:32 PM (eOXTH)

31 "On one occasion, Dick Morris was caught sucking the toes of a ~~chick~~ skanky whore from Phoenix. No kidding. Posted by: Fish at September 15, 2010 06:30 PM (v1gw3)" FTFY - accurately.

Posted by: Dick Morris at September 15, 2010 02:33 PM (tJjm/)

32
Dick Morris. Before he dicks you.

_{just had to use that...I denounce myself}

Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 15, 2010 02:33 PM (UOM48)

33 Like Browm Joseph DioGuardi has a daughter-American Idol connection.

Posted by: Serious Cat at September 15, 2010 02:33 PM (bAySe)

34 Off, toepuppet!

Posted by: CoolCzech at September 15, 2010 02:33 PM (tJjm/)

35 34 Like Browm Joseph DioGuardi has a daughter-American Idol connection.

Posted by: Serious Cat at September 15, 2010 06:33 PM (bAySe)

--Is she hot?

Posted by: logprof speaking for all men here at September 15, 2010 02:34 PM (BP6Z1)

36 If DioGuardi wins the Senate seat, does Gillibrand take over on American Idol?

Posted by: young liberal idiot voter at September 15, 2010 02:34 PM (pfStM)

37
Paladino could have been a player in the Sopranos series as a hit man. I like that in a republican candidate.

Posted by: Fish at September 15, 2010 02:34 PM (v1gw3)

38 Drew,

Have you heard any of the audio from Paladino's victory speech? "We have some questions for Anthony Cuomo." Something about the way he said has me still chuckling hours later-sort of like he was tapping a rubber truncheon against the palm of his hand while he said. This ought to be fun.

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at September 15, 2010 02:34 PM (Snu7z)

39 I would just SO love to see Gillibrand's hefty butt get kicked out of the Senate!

Posted by: CoolCzech at September 15, 2010 02:35 PM (tJjm/)

Remember, just because the advice is from a gasbag shithead, doesnÂ’t mean itÂ’s necessarily bad advice.

Fuck! What am I saying? Of course it does!

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at September 15, 2010 02:35 PM (r1h5M)

41 Dick Morris? Wasn't he the guy on Saved by the Bell?

Posted by: young liberal idiot voter at September 15, 2010 02:36 PM (pfStM)

42 I certainly hope he's right about DioGuardi. I voted for him AND Paladino, whom I hope gives The Prince of Wales, er I mean Andrew Cuomo a run for his money. NY has not been on any radar screen as far as upsets go so far.

I look forward to voting for both again in November, and for Bob Turner. Weiner's gotta go.

Posted by: Chris R at September 15, 2010 02:36 PM (AO4qz)

43
Some of Morris' stuff has to be taken with a grain of salt. He knows who is buying his books right now.

I'd like to condemn Dick Morris for his past indiscretions, but in my younger days, I have done worse in Phoenix.

The girls are pretty in Phoenix. And the beer is cold.

Posted by: sifty at September 15, 2010 02:36 PM (nKomG)

44 Years ago when Star Orca Jones was on Teh View, I actually caught Dick Morris on there, and he reached over and touched Star on the arm. She nearly knocked his arm out of his socket. Don't you touch me! she hissed, Don't you ever touch me!

Heh. This was around the time he came out with a tell-all book about Clinton.

Good times.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 15, 2010 02:37 PM (UOM48)

45
Tony Soprano: Who scares you Big Pussy?

Big Pussy Bonpensiero: Only one guy Tony, Carl Paladino.

Posted by: Fish at September 15, 2010 02:37 PM (v1gw3)

For the morons - the Dio daughter is on the left:

http://images.blippitt.com/ wp-content/uploads /2009/05/kara-dioguardi-bikini. jpg

Posted by: The Q at September 15, 2010 02:39 PM (pfStM)

47
It's like when Nirvana retired all the hair bands with one video.

Smells like Tea Party Spirit.
No more Aqua Net Republicans
Lindsey Graham can stow his spandex up his ass.

Posted by: Atomic Roach at September 15, 2010 02:39 PM (rMMMP)

48 47 Tony Soprano: Who scares you Big Pussy? I've had them screeching in terror.

Posted by: Zombie John Holmes at September 15, 2010 02:39 PM (tJjm/)

49
Christine O'Donnell is married to Larry O'Donnell and has no chance against a real candidate from the democrat party.

Posted by: Meggy McCain, Daddy's Girl at September 15, 2010 02:39 PM (v1gw3)

50 Weren't there any nice safe moderates running in these primaries?

Posted by: Terrye from HotAir at September 15, 2010 02:39 PM (Snu7z)

51 Posted by: The Q at September 15, 2010 06:39 PM (pfStM)

--Linky no worky.

Posted by: logprof speaking for all men here at September 15, 2010 02:41 PM (BP6Z1)

52
I've had them screeching in terror.

Posted by: Zombie John Holmes at September 15, 2010 06:39 PM (tJjm/)

Yea, it was terrifying, and someone should have lobbed off a few inches to make John human.

Posted by: Jenna Jamison at September 15, 2010 02:41 PM (v1gw3)

53 @48: that linky no worky...

Posted by: CoolCzech at September 15, 2010 02:41 PM (tJjm/)

54 Has anybody seen my pet raccoon around here?

Posted by: Harry Reid at September 15, 2010 02:42 PM (L8kaT)

55
Is Kraut going to make an ass of himself again tonight?

Posted by: Fish at September 15, 2010 02:42 PM (v1gw3)

56 Gillibrand will henceforth be known as ' Second-Hand Pant-Suit'.

Posted by: garrett at September 15, 2010 02:42 PM (RDnvk)

57 Take out the extra spaces

fixed link

Posted by: someone at September 15, 2010 02:42 PM (DfAwB)

58 @59: the one on the right has a rather disturbing bulge in her bikini bottom...

Posted by: CoolCzech at September 15, 2010 02:43 PM (tJjm/)

59 http://tinyurl.com/2f7t7mc

There were 3 spaces in the url that last link generated. This should work.

Posted by: Josef K. at September 15, 2010 02:44 PM (7+pP9)

60 59 Take out the extra spaces

fixed link

Posted by: someone at September 15, 2010 06:42 PM (DfAwB)

--Ah, she was part of that bikini duet.

I approve.

Posted by: logprof speaking for all men here at September 15, 2010 02:44 PM (BP6Z1)

61
Fred Barnes gets it wrong.........again!

"Defeat democrats by electing either a moderate or a conservative."

Sure if you want more of the same.

Posted by: Fish at September 15, 2010 02:44 PM (v1gw3)

62 Ace could write these posts by reading his comments, no need to link anyone.

Posted by: not at the table Carlos at September 15, 2010 02:45 PM (xtAfO)

63
the one on the right has a rather disturbing bulge in her bikini bottom...

Posted by: CoolCzech at September 15, 2010 06:43 PM (tJjm/)

Not quite a camel toe, but could be considered a muskrat toe.

Posted by: Fish at September 15, 2010 02:45 PM (v1gw3)

64 I swear Fox News is now part of the Republican establishment.

Posted by: FreedomFighter at September 15, 2010 02:47 PM (Odul+)

65 Fred Barnes and Mort Kondrake should go back to their gig on The Muppet Show. Old Judge Smales poofters.

Posted by: sifty at September 15, 2010 02:50 PM (nKomG)

66 Kraut has gone Rove.

Posted by: dananjcon at September 15, 2010 02:51 PM (bYaMk)

67 Never trust old men to change a country when you can't even imagine them fixing their own flat tires.

Posted by: sifty at September 15, 2010 02:52 PM (nKomG)

68 69 word...flat tires and basic houshold repairs are a minimum requirement in maintaining your man card.

Posted by: dananjcon at September 15, 2010 02:58 PM (bYaMk)

DioGuardi is an OK candidate, but I liked Paula's chemistry better. And of course it's all going to hell now that Simon is gone.

I guess it was just aw-ite for me, Dawg. Not great, but you really worked it out at the end.

Posted by: Randy Jackson at September 15, 2010 02:59 PM (1Wfmo)

70 DioGuardi is less telegenic than Scott Brown, but he certainly talks the right way.

(And he definitely sounds like a New Yorker.)

Posted by: someone at September 15, 2010 02:59 PM (DfAwB)

71 Nice ad, too. I should watch local TV sometime, I miss all this stuff.

Posted by: someone at September 15, 2010 03:00 PM (DfAwB)

72 72 DioGuardi is less telegenic than Scott Brown, but he certainly talks the right way.

(And he definitely sounds like a New Yorker.)

Posted by: someone at September 15, 2010 06:59 PM (DfAwB)

--I like. How is his campaign doing financially?

Posted by: logprof speaking for all men here at September 15, 2010 03:06 PM (BP6Z1)

73 59 Fuck, I didn't know that, I never watch American Idol.

Posted by: Chris R at September 15, 2010 03:22 PM (AO4qz)

74 74 He's probably toast because of money, unless the Tea Party helps him battle Gillibrand's massive Schumer-raised war chest.

Posted by: Chris R at September 15, 2010 03:24 PM (AO4qz)

75 He has no money until he starts getting some, and then it becomes a story that he does, and then...

So how do we set up a moneybomb?

Posted by: someone at September 15, 2010 03:26 PM (DfAwB)

76 74 He's probably toast because of money, unless the Tea Party helps him battle Gillibrand's massive Schumer-raised war chest. Posted by: Chris R at September 15, 2010 07:24 PM (AO4qz) Senator Schumer believes in a healthy chest!

Posted by: Sen. Gillibrand at September 15, 2010 03:27 PM (tJjm/)

77 Kristen totally might. She has New York money behind her, not New York sense.

Posted by: William at September 15, 2010 03:30 PM (77TeU)

78 He's probably toast because of money, unless the Tea Party helps him battle Gillibrand's massive Schumer-raised war chest.

I don't think money is as big a factor this year as in the past. Being joined at the hip to Schumer comes with its own peculiar liabilities as well...particularly upstate where Schumer support is very soft.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at September 15, 2010 03:32 PM (LiXrX)

He goes on to say that Kirsten Gillibrand may be taken down by New York's new Republican Senate candidate, Joseph DioGuardi.

Also, Scarlett Johansson may stop by my house tonight and offer me $1 million dollars for the privilege of letting her blow me.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 15, 2010 03:35 PM (plsiE)

80 Hollowpoint: Scarlett is here in my SoHo pad and has her lips wrapped around my throbbing johnson (not charles) as we speak. And I just noticed a deposit in my checking account, Hmmm...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 15, 2010 03:46 PM (9Cooa)

81 79: Senator, You Only Live ONCE.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 15, 2010 03:48 PM (9Cooa)

82 Morris is going to be on Hanney tonight.

Posted by: Kemp at September 15, 2010 03:49 PM (AQxTm)

83 84 79: Senator, You Only Live ONCE. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 15, 2010 07:48 PM (9Cooa) There's something I'd like to get off my chest...

Posted by: Sen. Gillibrand at September 15, 2010 03:50 PM (tJjm/)

84 hmmm

Posted by: richard mcenroe at September 15, 2010 03:50 PM (FwaRQ)

85 rangle easily defeats 5 primary rivals lol yeah riiiiiiiiiight. im so sure it was all nice an clean, GTFO lolol i dont put anything past that piece of shit. but whats great about that guy is he knows hes a piece of shit, and he knows EVERYONE else knows.

it shows in his little phony smirks during photo-ops. makes me smile.

Posted by: skr8 outta at September 15, 2010 03:50 PM (icVev)

86 86: The Senator is into BONDage.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 15, 2010 03:54 PM (9Cooa)

87 Kirsten Gillibrand is my pet.

Posted by: Chuck Schumer at September 15, 2010 03:55 PM (pfStM)

88 @89: I'm a honey rider!

Posted by: Sen. Gillibrand at September 15, 2010 03:56 PM (tJjm/)

Ironic. I was just talking about how extremists don't recognize their own extremism - like me, for example.

Meh. I know I'm extreme.

It's just that I'm extremely right.

And most everyone else is some degree of wrong.

Posted by: Entropy at September 15, 2010 03:59 PM (eL+YD)

90 I just watched the video of GWB's Bullhorn Speech at the WTC after 9/11. What a President! Watching him wave the American flag afterwards brought a lump to my throat. Can anyone imagine that pathetic sop living in the WH at the moment giving such a speech? Never mind stooping so low as to wave the flag... What an SOB!

Posted by: CoolCzech at September 15, 2010 04:02 PM (tJjm/)

91 Remember: Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice, and moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue.

Posted by: Entropy at September 15, 2010 04:02 PM (eL+YD)

92 Posted by: Former President Barry Goldwater at September 15, 2010 08:05 PM (uCjoj) The Cold War would have ended c. 1970, Vietnam would be a great Asian democracy today, and who knows? Maybe 50 million Americans would be alive today?

Posted by: CoolCzech at September 15, 2010 04:15 PM (tJjm/)

93 50 million ABORTED Americans might be alive today, I meant to say...

Posted by: CoolCzech at September 15, 2010 04:15 PM (tJjm/)

94 It is amazing Carl Paladino is getting so little attention. What he has accomplished was done as a man alone, without big name endorsers, in a state where the Republican rulers AND the Conservative rulers are members of the Parasite Party, accomplices to the Leftist agenda, and where the legal corruption smothers the state like endless tons of sodden newspaper. Every facet of this race is fascinating and inspiring. Paladino is now running against a Cuomo - - surely folks have heard the name before, and understand the profound significance? All the best to O'Donnell and DioGuardi. But when this election season is done, Paladino will be the big story. To New Yorkers, his victory will seem akin to the liberation of Eastern Europe. Do not doubt this. Paladino will win, and his victory will be heralded as an historical event. If DioGuardi wins, it will be because of Paladino, and the same if Schumer loses. Miller, Brown, O'Donnell, etc., all very good, but nothing compared to the Paladino story.

Posted by: Tonawanda at September 15, 2010 04:18 PM (fgysf)

95 @100: you know, I never considered that the national mass tragedy of tens of millions of abortions was necessarily just a religious right issue. I suspect if he had any inkling over the sheer numbers of aborted Americans... virtually a whole lost generation... he would have swung hard right on abortion. When I walk around a mall these days, it's not so much the numbers of non-whites and foreigners that strike me. What I always wonder, as I realize that if they suddenly disappeared the place would be half empty, is: what the hell happened to all the Americans? Search for them in the landfills, my fellow Americans.

Posted by: CoolCzech at September 15, 2010 04:23 PM (tJjm/)

96 Do not doubt this. Paladino will win, and his victory will be heralded as an historical event. If DioGuardi wins, it will be because of Paladino, and the same if Schumer loses. Miller, Brown, O'Donnell, etc., all very good, but nothing compared to the Paladino story. Posted by: Tonawanda at September 15, 2010 08:18 PM (fgysf) I LUV the way he says the choice is between him and "Status Cuomo. I think we are on the cusp of a conservative revolution unlike any even Reagan dared imagine.

Posted by: CoolCzech at September 15, 2010 04:24 PM (tJjm/)

97 Angle just did a really nice job on O'Reilly, I thought. IMO she was a little shaky in some interviews immediately after the primary win, but I think she is polishing things up very nicely. These people can, and should, get better with the PR aspect of politics and it looks to me like Angle is.

Posted by: Dave S. at September 15, 2010 04:28 PM (UvR6d)

98 102: Paladino is a very clever man, very intelligent, very fast on his feet and very funny. BTW, at this point it is less certain, because their opponents are unknown and probably not in the Paladino league, but Schumer and Gillibrand are very vulnerable and it should not be surprising if Paladino carries their opponents to victory.

Posted by: Tonawanda at September 15, 2010 04:33 PM (fgysf)

99 I hope Paladino is for real.

He has the balls to talk about the single issue that's been fiscally strangling both state and city for ages now (made worse by Pataki's last terms): Medicaid. NY spends more than California and Texas *combined* -- not per capita, but *total*. The only thing more insane than this fact is that no one can even mention it or print spending charts that show it.

Posted by: someone at September 15, 2010 04:41 PM (DfAwB)

100

My administration kicked ass.

Goldwater got you Reagan.

So yes, yes it did.

Posted by: Entropy at September 15, 2010 04:57 PM (eL+YD)

101

I have heard only very very bad things about Paladino. Basically, that he was a fake TP dem plant. But I cannot say it had any great credibility.

I am not at all familiar with him myself.

Does he seem legit?

A genuine conservative, or just some kind of eccentric ross-perot type rich dude?

Posted by: Entropy at September 15, 2010 05:01 PM (eL+YD)

102

Social Security Act of 1965 aka Medicare

Forest > Trees.

No Goldwater, no Reagan = no conservative movement = no conservative GOP = no tea party.

That means: No hope. History, like entropy, marches in one direction only.

They've given you a chance at reclaiming the vision of what this country was suppose to be, as a stark exception to most of human history.

No... If you'd have nominated Rockefeller, he'd have had a government program all his own that never could be repealed and would now be bankrupting the country just the same. And everyone since him would have been just like him.

Perhaps he would have called 'No Child Left Behind' or perhaps, merely a cryptic sounding 'Part D'.

The natural state for most of humanity throughout history has been slavery and suffering.

Buddy, Goldwater gave you the only alternative you ever had. The only one there's ever been, 6000 years since they learned to write in Egypt and counting.

Posted by: Entropy at September 15, 2010 05:13 PM (eL+YD)

103 "To some extent, I sorta think that Dick Morris is doing a little pandering" Morris - pandering? The devil you say!

Posted by: sauropod at September 15, 2010 05:18 PM (GPm6P)

104

You do recall that in his last term, Goldwater was so opposed to the Religious Right that he started to actually change his views on abortion.

Yeah, but he was quite old. And people get crazy and cranky when they get old.

Also, that was like... what, late 80-something? Right round the height of Jerry Falwell imploding and Pat Robertson running for president, wasn't it? That Religous Right wasn't exactly it's best incarnation.

And he'd have been long retired before that if he'd have won.

And I got to admit, if you strap me down and make me read too much of that Focus On The Family type stuff I too am overcome with a desire to ban the 10 commandments and fund sacreligous art.

Austin Powers is satanic? Ban Harry Potter for promoting witchcraft? Shutup I keel you now.

Posted by: Entropy at September 15, 2010 05:25 PM (eL+YD)

105

Posted by: Bob Michel

Yeah... OK I don't even know who that is. If there's a point there I've missed it.

Posted by: Entropy at September 15, 2010 05:27 PM (eL+YD)

106 Late to the party here but DioGuardi was my Congressman back in the Reagan years.

Posted by: real joe at September 15, 2010 06:37 PM (w7Lv+)

107 I still can't figure out why people are so positive that Miss "I've Been Living on Campaign Contributions for the Past Ten Years" is such a fiscal hawk.

I can't wait to hear the howls from her supporters when she stabs them all in the back.

Posted by: Justin at September 15, 2010 09:37 PM (6ls2L)

108

"I sorta think that Dick Morris is doing a little pandering -- wishcasting"

Well, I guess you should know. Where the hell is Mitt anyway?

Posted by: gary gulrud at September 16, 2010 06:42 AM (/g2vP)

109

I don't think the republican establishment has realized that this is a center right country with both parties being on the left of center for the last two decades.

Our choices have been between center left and left. Both parties have been fiscally irresponsible and increased government control. Both have bailed out their buddies in finance and industry. What the establishment is seeing in the Tea Party are the republican and democrat citizens of this country trying to drag the US back to the center.

Posted by: styrgwillidar at September 16, 2010 09:18 AM (FzhYM)

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