1

bare wrists

razor blade

Sunday ObamaCareVote

2 Time to get the pudding out?

3 The vote sunday will be nearly identical (+/- 1) to the vote yesterday to use the Slaughter rule.

4
Dick Morris is consistently wrong about all his predictions.

5 Dick Morris owes like 25 dinners to O'Reilly.

6
And Susan Estrich is taking over his body.

7 >>But, if they don't have the votes, they will allow the measure to be defeated.<<

I simply don't believe that.  What basis would anyone have to believe it?

8 is he still sucking on a hooker's toes?

9 Based upon Dick Morris's historical record ObamaCare has advanced to 83% on Intrade

10
good one, dunce!

11 Eric Cantor on Fox News just said he has spoken to Joseph Cao as recent as an hour and a half ago and has been told by Cao that he is a firm NO.

12

Limbaugh said today not to give too much weight to the media 'score card' on this.

What a mess. What a damn filthy mess we've come to.

Joseph  McCarthy is spinning in his grave.  Why do you think there have been so many big quakes of late?

13 i don't like the toe sucker

14

but i hope he's right

 

15

What basis would anyone have to believe it?

Because all the talk about overhauling health care went away for good after the 1994 elections. They called it "Hillarycare" and it's deader than the Kaiser's war machine.

16 I for one simply do not believe Fox News' numbers... they do not list who they have as voting which way.  They just have a number.

Gabe's list is more precise because it shows who is where.  Could Democrats be saying they're a NO or Undecided when they're actually a YES?  Well, yes... politicians do lie.

17 9 Based upon Dick Morris's historical record ObamaCare has advanced to 83% on Intrade Posted by: Andy Rand

Andy Rand is John Ryan.  And he keeps posting the same fucking thing on every thread.  I hope he dies of anal warts.

18 why are you guys so quick to pile on Dick? it's thanks to him Clinton stayed moderate and he has a great prediction record, he picked Dubya in 04 when everyone was picking Kerry and correctly stated Obama's approvals would dip when everyone, including ace, was already calling the 2012 election over

19 >>>I simply don't believe that. What basis would anyone have to believe it? Because a lot of Democrats don't want a vote at all. They do not want to piss off the nutroots with a No and don't want to piss off everyone else with a Yes. For about 30 Democrats or more, the best outcome is no vote at all. To get this passed, the leadership must guarantee their will be a vote and they can't just sit on the fence until it all goes away. So they have to schedule a vote. They at least have to do that much. They have to seem ready to go through with it, or else the fence-sitters will keep on fence-sitting. The fence-sitters don't want to vote either way. Now, it is possible they will realize they're off and maybe try to stop the vote at the last minute. But probably they will go through with it. Because ALL DEMOCRATS need this issue to be resolved one way or another.

20 Maybe the defeat of the bill is like Tinkerbell, if we believe hard enough, it will happen.

21 OT:  Federal Reserve must disclose bank bailout records per US court of appeals.

Hey, Goldman Sachs, how you doin?

22 This is similar to Rich Lowry's theory - that if they are 3-4 votes away, Pelosi will simply call the vote, and say to the undecideds we're going over the cliff, you have to pull the rip cord to save the party.

23

Andy Rand is John Ryan. 

Can't be, all the capitalization is correct.

24

Meh. His only claim to fame is that he successfully survived Hillary Clinton.

I'm still optimistic that he's right and this POS bill dies a very slow and painful death, along with The Vapid One's™ political career.

25 I'm hoping for the best...praying for the best, and have been...but it's looking more and more like we're going to have to start going into Plan B mode of unraveling, dismantling, repealing, rolling back, defunding, what-the-fuck-ever to keep this from ever being implemented.  We have no choice.

26
Andy Rand is John Ryan in...

Tom Clancy's

TROLL GAMES

27 OT: leftists go crazy on YouTube on a clip on Bret's interview

here's an example:

"when you're up against the clock you kind of have to choose one over the other"...and clearly he choose to DISRESPECT the office of the Presidency for FIX PROPAGANDA NEWS and the tea baggers/birthers.

these people really are predictable, I guess this dope i just qouted hasn't heard FOX is getting ratings higher then USA & TNT

PS: Geraldo has come out swinging against Bret, guess Geraldo's obsession w/ everything minorities is getting in the way of common sense, guess he would have let Obama drone on

28 Obama to shed crocodile tears to House Democrat Caucus at 4pm on Sat.

Awwww.  Please, pretty please, I need one more vote.

29

19 why are you guys so quick to pile on Dick?

Because we like how it taste? Duh!

30

Nancy Pelosi
Only one word describes you
See you next Tuesday

31 I keep hearing the GE ad on the radio, the one with Ronnie Reagan...disgraceful.

Why are we NOT hammering the dem funders? Like GE

32

Posted by: AllahTyrant at March 19, 2010 03:47 PM (s3LK6)

I love that handle

33 Bad news for Breitbart.  I think he just got scammed today with a fake leak.  It's going to trace back to Big Government in a few hours.

34
I'm giving y'all some VDH medicine - like it or not.  (I like it)


"At an outdoor rally today, the president described the health-care debate as a referendum on the “character” of the country, and I do believe he was correct.

The president is pushing legislation that a clear majority of the people dislike, and whose details neither he nor his supporters can explain in simple language. Its ends-justify-the-means passage will require legislative gymnastics that border on the unconstitutional, and in Orwellian fashion are designed to reassure its sheepish supporters that they can appear not to be voting for the bill they vote for. And to achieve a House majority, Obama must offer an array of personal favors, political payoffs, federal stipends, and open threats, which, if done in the private sector, would be actionable acts of felonious bribery or racketeering.

So, yes, this is a reflection about character; and so far the president has throughout this entire shameful process been shown to be utterly wanting on that count, as he misrepresents both the bill’s contents and the opposition to it. All of his “let me be perfectly clear” and “make no mistake about it” and now-tired rhetoric and faux cadences simply cannot change that disturbing reality.

That such chameleon legislation is the work of a supposedly healing, post-partisan, post-ideological politician makes it even more embarrassing. There will be lots of us — Democrats, Republicans, Independents — who simply will not vote this fall for any congressional representative who votes for this tawdry DMV-like take-over of health care."

35 If any of you even think about typing the word "revolution" or putting down  our lovely First Lady, you will be banned from the interwebs, banned I say!

36 There could be some truth to the suicide run that Morris refers to. The "pressure cooker" to passage so to speak. The Dems are irrational at this point so it would follow that their actions would be equally irrational. I say that if they were there, you wouldn't have all the cheerleaders out there cheering. I mean, once the sale is closed the pitch stops.

37 Why are we NOT hammering the dem funders? Like GE

GE is a firm owned by shareholders(us?  Sort of, but more like Geithner acting as us).  Shareholders should demand a report similar to what Caterpillar produced.  What will Obamacare do to their costs?  How much will it cost them?

38 Heads up! Dick Morris is up soon on Hannity's show.

39

I always worry with Dick Morris that his predictions and reports are, um, tailored some to please his clients. And we're his clients.

Eh...I know used car salesman w/better raps than the toe gobbler. He's always selling something. Regardless he is a DC creature w/an ear to the ground on this shit...I just hope, well you know...

 

40

Tom Clancy's TROLL GAMES

... "The Hunt for Red Octrollber" ... "Executroll Orders." ...

I could do this all day.

(Actually, I can't do this all day because there are only so many Tom Clancy titles to draw upon. I'd have to switch to B-52's song titles.)

... "Troll for a Future Generation" ... "Mesopotrollia" ... "Rock Lobstroll" ...

41

This is toe suckingly good news if true.

You know what I'm talking about Dick.

42

Drudge has a story up.... 100k calls an hour to congress...

they cant handle the volume... LOVE IT

43 "Why are we NOT hammering the dem funders? Like GE " If some conservative blogger would maintain a list of advertisers and enablers on a convenient header or RSS feed - I would check it everyday.

44 37 If any of you even think about typing the word "revolution" or putting down  our lovely First Lady, you will be banned from the interwebs, banned I say!

I got my one eye on you.

45 Dick Morris always follows his rosey predictions by giving out his website address and saying we should really send him money to make sure his predictions come true.

46 46 " If some conservative blogger would maintain a list of advertisers and enablers on a convenient header or RSS feed - I would check it everyday.

That's what I'm talking about. We need to hit these mofo's in their wallet. The greedy bastards.

47

Re: Morris' past predictions being wrong.

 

Maybe the guy is due?

 

48 Guys, Defazio might be for real.  His office released a statement saying that without changes in the bill, he will vote no.  It's over at National Review at the Corner. 

49
I'm gonna sing it agin beecuz it feelz so good.
and a one... and a two...

"That such chameleon legislation is the work of a supposedly healing, post-partisan, post-ideological politician makes it even more embarrassing. There will be lots of us — Democrats, Republicans, Independents — who simply will not vote this fall for any congressional representative who votes for this tawdry DMV-like take-over of health care."

50

Geraldo has come out swinging against Bret, guess Geraldo's obsession w/ everything minorities is getting in the way of common sense

How the fuck did that Jerry Springer wannabe get a gig on a news network?

Doesn't he know they've BEEN FORCE TO RESORT TO CANNIBALISM AND ARE  EATING PEOPLE IN THE SUPERDOME!

51 only by forcing a vote can they force members off the fence

Bingo.  And all those fence sitters?  Socialists.  Guess how they'll vote.  This will pass by 3 or 4 Sunday.  Kristalltag is Monday.

52

How many of the current no / leaning no votes are from the progressive / liberal / socialist end of the spectrum- those who (yeah, I know) previously voted "no" because it wasn't statist enough?

I suspect that most of those will convert to yes votes- they (at least pretended to) put up a fight to placate the nutroots and their liberal donor base, but those in liberal districts face no real electoral threat from voting yes.

Toss in those who are trying to keep their pending yes vote under the radar as long as possible, plus those who succumbed to presure / extortion / bribery and it's likely this piece of shit will pass.

Sure, some of them might lose an election over it, but there'll be a cushy no-show job waiting for them if they do.

 

53 Regardless he is a DC creature w/an ear to the ground on this shit...


Easier to spot the tasty toes...

54 Posted by: phoenixrisen at March 19, 2010 03:57 PM (74DQm)

Would you put money on that? I wouldn't.

55

At an outdoor rally today, the president described the health-care debate as a referendum on the “character” of the country...

Well, to this point, it sure as hell is not about our SAT math aptitude...

56 42

Tom Clancy's TROLL GAMES

... "The Hunt for Red Octrollber" ... "Executroll Orders." ...

I could do this all day.

(Actually, I can't do this all day because there are only so many Tom Clancy titles to draw upon. I'd have to switch to B-52's song titles.)

... "Troll for a Future Generation" ... "Mesopotrollia" ... "Rock Lobstroll" ...

Posted by: FireHorse at March 19, 2010 03:52 PM (cQyWA)

James Bond movies will give you the staying power:

Trollo-pussy... 

57 Hrm.  Boehner says the 72-hr clock hasn't started yet. 

By now he should know they don't really mean that "72 hours to read the bill" shit...

58

Sure, some of them might lose an election over it, but there'll be a cushy no-show job waiting for them if they do.

I will say with ironclad certainty that they will have to recess appointments becasue there will be multiple Senate holds on any such presidential appointments.

59 56 hehe, indeed. 

60

why are you guys so quick to pile on Dick?

 

that's what she said?

61 My Own Private Idatroll

62 YouTube: Obama and Wile E. Coyote on the "Precipice" of Health Care Reform: http://tinyurl.com/yh3gnpm

63

How the fuck did that Jerry Springer wannabe get a gig on a news network?

Posted by: Entropy at March 19, 2010 03:57 PM (IsLT6)

it's all about Capone's vaut, Gacy's secret dumping ground and THE BABIES! WHAT ABOUT THE BABIES!!

64 I suspect that most of those will convert to yes votes- they (at least pretended to) put up a fight to placate the nutroots and their liberal donor base, but those in liberal districts face no real electoral threat from voting yes.


And there's a "public-option" vote coming along this summer.

65 It actually makes sense that Nancy and the Dem House leadership finally got tired of dicking around with these guys and not getting where they need to get.  So, they schedule the Sunday vote as the only way to make them all show and tell. If they win, they win; if they don't, they still have a week until Spring break to consider and pursue options.

66 How's that Condi vs. Hillary presidential thing working out, Dick?

67 If some conservative blogger would maintain a list of advertisers and enablers on a convenient header or RSS feed - I would check it everyday.

Here you go: Every company bigger than a two-shift streetcorner hot dog vendor. Go forth!

68 I like Dick Morris.

69 51 Guys, Defazio might be for real.  His office released a statement saying that without changes in the bill, he will vote no.  It's over at National Review at the Corner. 

Posted by: phoenixrisen at March 19, 2010 03:57 PM (74DQm)

 

Hmmm... that is worth the read.

70 Get it straight, dude. I suck toes, Morris does sodomy and back-biting. Did you also know I went to Sycaruse?

71 Posted by: Vile Roman at March 19, 2010 04:01 PM (iBzKc)

You would be better off concentrating on what he got right as far as predictions go.

72

James Bond movies will give you the staying power:

Dr. Troll ... Trolldeneye ...

(Hey, you're onto something there, dananjcon. Can't really do anything with "Moonraker," though.)

Casintroll Royale ...

73 And all those fence sitters?  Socialists

I have no insight into when it happened...the transformation of the Dem party from the party of JFK to the Marxist/Communist/Socialists that now proudly call themselves Democrats.  It's utterly shocking there are so many elected officials of any party within our own government whose wishes are to circumvent our beloved Constitution and install their unattainable Commu-fuck utopian society.  You just never would've had me believe that....up until about 2 years ago.

74 "Keep the phone lines hot, he advises. Indeed."

Probably good advice.

75 In lighter news (don't know if anyone's already mentioned this on another thread), but Anderson Cooper got his butt kicked by Cheech Marin on Celebutard Jeopardy!  heh!  CNN is 0-3 on all their Jeopardy appearances.  I did think it was funny that Anderson threw Wolf Blitzer under the bus in his segment about his loss with Cheech Marin as his guest.  Heh!  He mentioned that Wolf was at negative $4600 before Final Jeopardy.  Even had a screen shot of it.  CNN, dumbest newsreaders evah!  (Oh, and Cooper showed Cheech the text message he got from Soledad O'Brien "I can't believe you lost to Cheech, that's really bad."

76 I would go a step farther then just checking a blog; if Rush or Levin, or the NRA, etc issued a Visa card that actively blocked purchases from specific vendors - like a WIC debit card does -using a list maintained by Rush (for example). I would get one. I would also expect a Hey Dumbass email everytime I tried to use it at a lefty establishment.

77 I have no insight into when it happened...the transformation of the Dem party from the party of JFK to the Marxist/Communist/Socialists

68 and 72.

78

R-U Fucking kidding me??? That scumbag could'nt wear Brett's soiled jock strap. He's just looking to get in on the Bret Buzz from the last few days for his miserable little weekend hack-suck-job show. Oppotunistic, talentless, race bating, whore mongering, cum-stain.

_{Have a nice day!}  

79 74 Get it straight, dude. I suck toes, Morris does sodomy and back-biting.

Did you also know I went to Sycaruse?       Piker!  I suck my own toes, sodomize my own ass, and I went to Cornell!!11  (Plus I have my own hair!)

80 @ 75 You would be better off concentrating on what he got right as far as predictions go.

I'm listening . . .

81

oops re: Geraldo has come out swinging against Bret

 

R-U Fucking kidding me??? That scumbag could'nt wear Brett's soiled jock strap. He's just looking to get in on the Bret Buzz from the last few days for his miserable little weekend hack-suck-job show. Oppotunistic, talentless, race bating, whore mongering, cum-stain.

82 morris about to be on hannity's radio show.

83

@ 66

Thanks for the Wile E Coyote funny. It's greatly needed...

84 don't trust Dick Morris, he is one of them.  don't trust hillbuzz, they are them.

The Carly Fiorina wolf in sheeps clothing commercial is right....

85 Oh and Morris don't know Dick!

86 Per a thread from this morning, I have been faxing all day long.  I had 7 on the list, as of now I could only get through to 4 of them.  I even tried to fax Stupak and give him an atta boy but his fax line is busy too.  Don't give up people, I truly don't think they have the votes yet and we just have to keep the pressure on.

87

I'm listening . . .

"Obama, Congress, and the special interest are transforming a slump into a crash, freedom into socialism, and a disaster into a catastrophe."

Right there on the cover of his book. That's a natural hat trick.

88 Posted by: dananjcon at March 19, 2010 04:07 PM (pr+up)

Hannity said that he might be on Fox on Sunday night.  My guess is that Geraldo's program goes out the window if Hannity is on. 

Geraldo is another wolf in sheep's clothing.

89 I'm listening . . .

Posted by: Vile Roman at March 19, 2010 04:07 PM (iBzKc)

Ummmm... I got nothin!

90 Thanks bebe's boobs, tuning in now. I can use my dose of optimism (to debunk: Ha!).

91 Listening here.

Morris is saying it's in play, but nothing telling me he's super-optimistic of victory.

92 One of my friends is saying that this is the Senate's fault.  She is saying all they had to do was vote not to bring this to the floor in the week before Christmas and we would not be at this point.  She is saying that Christmas eve vote which she thinks had some kind of bizarre significance for them was the thing that brought this to the fore.  She is busy writing to her Senators telling them she will not forget this and she will make sure that others realize this too.  

She is madder than a wet hen and she is not a conservative or a republican....and I think she voted for BO....so this is an interesting turn of events.

93 @ 91 "Obama, Congress, and the special interest are transforming a slump into a crash, freedom into socialism, and a disaster into a catastrophe."

Yeah, he really went out on a limb, there. Move over, Karnak.

94

I will say with ironclad certainty that they will have to recess appointments becasue there will be multiple Senate holds on any such presidential appointments.

Don't think for a moment they wouldn't resort to recess appointments... which are only bad when a Republican does it.

Even if not, there are always positions that don't require Senate approval- board of director and exectutive positions in companies that were "encouraged" to bring them on board, lobbying firms, "consultant" jobs, etc.

It's still a gamble- they're betting that the public will forget or can be convinced that a vote for the reconcilliation bill isn't really a vote for Obamacare.

95

On Her Majesty's Secret Troll 

96 72 I like Dick Morris.

Posted by: maddogg at March 19, 2010 04:02 PM (OlN4e)

Fixed it for me

97 Geraldo is another wolf in sheep's clothing.

Posted by: curious at March 19, 2010 04:10 PM (p302b)

Fuckin bottom feeder.

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Troll another day

98 Eh, on things like this Morris is worth listening to i think. It's when he talks about the Clintons that you can tune him out, he has a bug up his ass for them and will say anything as long as he thinks it'll hurt them, especially Hillary.

99

It's still a gamble- they're betting that the public will forget or can be convinced that a vote for the reconcilliation bill isn't really a vote for Obamacare.

Coburn, DeMint, Sessions and others will make their life on appointments a living hell.  This will happen.

100 Wow, curious...you must be having some effect on your friends.  I usually read how you're surrounded by libs.  Even though she wasn't one specifically and may have voted for the Retard in Chief, sounds like she has seen the light. 

101 Geraldo is another wolf in sheep's clothing a flaming racist cocksucker.

Posted by: curious at March 19, 2010 04:10 PM (p302b)

FIFY

102

Fuckin bottom feeder.

Don't let 'em get to you. "Live and let troll," as they say.

103 Posted by: dananjcon at March 19, 2010 04:17 PM (pr+up)

She's right. I wouldn't trust Geraldo farther than I could throw him!

104 Sean just used the cliche "put his foot in his mouth" to Dick Morris.

Heh.

(Sorry, I take my smiles where I can get 'em today .)

105 Posted by: Twinks at March 19, 2010 04:18 PM (wRPBa)

All I have really been doing is asking my friends to get informed, really informed.  I have also been saying "please look at all this stuff with an unbiased eye"...."look at it for fairness and for the tenets of our country"  "don't look at it in terms of the two party system or labeling anyone."  "but, please just look at it".

106 102 Eh, on things like this Morris is worth listening to i think. It's when he talks about the Clintons that you can tune him out, he has a bug up his ass for them and will say anything as long as he thinks it'll hurt them, especially Hillary.

Posted by: koopy at March 19, 2010 04:17 PM (ctR4U)

HeHe...thats when I like to listen to him, I love it when he bashes little miss Kankles.

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107 Twinks, I consider it a great victory that we have moved passed the "what do you want people to die?"  "you are being brainwashed by those political blogs you are reading"  "those people are total bigots and they don't understand where we are going as a country".   It has taken me this long to at least get them to read the stuff and get off the entertainment weekly page.

108 Geraldo is another wolf in sheep's clothing a flaming racist cocksucker.
Posted by: curious at March 19, 2010 04:10 PM (p302b)

Yes, but he's banged 1000 chicks.  That has to account for something.

(damned italics!!)

109 Is Geraldo the asshole reporter who was running around A-stan armed?

110 Is Geraldo the asshole reporter who was running around A-stan armed?

Posted by: Jean at March 19, 2010 04:28 PM (6Njk9)

That's the guy!

111 Dick Morris.  What a weasel.  He was a happy democrat stooge until Bill Clinton beat him up, and now he's a vengeful antidemocrat stooge.

He's usually wrong.