January 13, 2010
— DrewM At this point the death and damage is pretty much beyond comprehension.
Haitian President René Préval issued an urgent appeal for his earthquake-shattered nation Wednesday, saying he had been stepping over dead bodies and hearing the cries of those trapped under the rubble of the national Parliament.Préval, in his first interview since the earthquake, said the country was destroyed and he believed there were thousands of people dead but was reluctant to provide a number.
``We have to do an evaluation,'' Préval said, describing the scene as ``unimaginable.''
``Parliament has collapsed. The tax office has collapsed. Schools have collapsed. Hospitals have collapsed,'' he said. ``There are a lot of schools that have a lot of dead people in them.''
The U.N. said casualties were ``vast'' but impossible to calculate.
The International Red Cross said a third of Haiti's nine million people may need emergency aid and that it would take a day or two for a clear picture of the damage to emerge, the Associated Press reported.
Obviously the US military is going to play a significant role in relief efforts. Right now there's talk of sending the aircraft carrier USS Vinson and an amphibious assault ship to the island. The biggest issue will be fresh water as well as a large fleet of helicopters to ferry supplies, especially to hard to reach areas. Given that reports are that most if not all hospitals are destroyed, I wouldn't be surprised to see the DoD move in the hospital ship USNS Comfort.
Once chilling note...some early estimates are that upwards of 500,000 people may be dead. That would represent 5% of the population.
Even at half that.....
Oh yeah, idiot extraordinaire Pat Robertson knows why so much tragedy has befallen the Haitian people...they made a pact with the Devil.
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Posted by: Chaz706 at January 13, 2010 12:33 PM (u3fm3)
Posted by: Martha at January 13, 2010 12:33 PM (SqAkN)
heard on some news earlier today that the prisons collapsed and all the prisoners escaped, gonna get real bad before it gets better down there.
Posted by: trailortrash at January 13, 2010 12:35 PM (2Z+7j)
Posted by: martha coakley at January 13, 2010 12:35 PM (HeR4y)
Posted by: Girl Thursday at January 13, 2010 12:35 PM (podKV)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 13, 2010 12:36 PM (i3AsK)
Posted by: John at January 13, 2010 12:36 PM (6FYZ6)
Posted by: Purple Avenger at January 13, 2010 12:37 PM (E2GeR)
Posted by: Monty at January 13, 2010 12:37 PM (4Pleu)
Posted by: Y-not at January 13, 2010 12:37 PM (sey23)
Posted by: stace at January 13, 2010 12:38 PM (g/wgk)
Posted by: mikey at January 13, 2010 12:38 PM (xfRfG)
Posted by: RobD at January 13, 2010 12:38 PM (sV3Dv)
Posted by: the peanut gallery at January 13, 2010 12:38 PM (l71WL)
Someone might want to ask Pat about Job. Or does nothing bad ever happen to good Christians?
Geez.
Posted by: nickless at January 13, 2010 12:39 PM (MMC8r)
The notion that they will have to accomodate as many as 250,000 + human remain's is almost inconceivable to me.
(...that's a lot of Haitian Zombies)
Posted by: garrett at January 13, 2010 12:40 PM (HeR4y)
Given how little Robertson understands Christianity, I'm not surprised he misunderstands this.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at January 13, 2010 12:40 PM (mR7mk)
Posted by: iowahawk at January 13, 2010 12:40 PM (veL4N)
Posted by: Kemp at January 13, 2010 12:40 PM (2+9Yx)
Actually, most aid not handed out directly to recipients by donors, will very likely be ummm.... stolen significantly diminished by corrupt government officials.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at January 13, 2010 12:41 PM (E2GeR)
Posted by: dagny at January 13, 2010 12:41 PM (PZxFr)
Anyway, prayers and condolences from this commenter. And thanks again to our wonderful military.
Posted by: that kid from a christmas story at January 13, 2010 12:42 PM (DIYmd)
Maybe we should also make a pact with the Devil, too, so God can flatten Congress and the IRS. Think it'd work?
Posted by: Keith Arnold at January 13, 2010 12:42 PM (Jdtsu)
May God show the dead comfort and rest. May God show the living mercy and respite.
While He's at it, could He please make Pat Robertson STFU? Better still, ask Him to tell Pat that Ray Bolger got the part and he no longer has to stay in character?
Posted by: David in San Diego at January 13, 2010 12:44 PM (GF+6V)
The dominicans fear and hate the haitians and treat them like crap. Everyone gives them money and what do they do with it? Even the Chinese give them money. Their corruption must be worse than ours.
Posted by: dagny at January 13, 2010 12:44 PM (PZxFr)
I'm having a hard time finding information about the state of government since 2004 (the last time the U.S. was asked to intervene...we've been involved to varying degrees since 1914) that isn't filtered through a Marxist-anarchist-BDS lens.
But yeah, you'll want to donate to organizations who already had people/facilities operating there.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at January 13, 2010 12:45 PM (mR7mk)
Posted by: dagny at January 13, 2010 12:46 PM (PZxFr)
Posted by: 141 Driver at January 13, 2010 12:46 PM (LEynS)
25 Pat Robertson is proof that God doesn't exist.
God doesn't exist.
Pat Robertson is proof
that
proof
is
God, Pat
Posted by: garrett at January 13, 2010 12:46 PM (HeR4y)
Posted by: Monty at January 13, 2010 12:47 PM (4Pleu)
Posted by: bigpinkfluffybunny at January 13, 2010 12:47 PM (KWhJd)
Posted by: joncelli at January 13, 2010 12:47 PM (RD7QR)
I have been down there. Didnt see all that much of Haiti, more of the DR, but I already felt sorry for those people. It is mostly a very young population, I think the average age used to be around 18. The AIDS epidemics keep the age down. At one time, there were about 2 % of the population with AIDS. Extreme poverty. I really didnt like that corner of the world.
Posted by: di butler/murderous bitch at January 13, 2010 12:48 PM (S3xX1)
Posted by: vai2112 at January 13, 2010 12:50 PM (4ucyN)
from prev thread, but now topical
pretty irksome: as if we needed hollywood's ok.
Stiller, Hilton, other celebs urge quake relief Published: 1/13/10, 4:45 PM EDT
NEW YORK (AP) - Oprah Winfrey, Paris Hilton and Ben Stiller are among the celebrities and artists urging support for survivors of the earthquake in Haiti.
Stiller tweeted late Tuesday that "people in Haiti need our help and attention right now." Similar tweets are showing up from the likes of Hilton, Lindsay Lohan, Adam Lambert and Ryan Leslie.
Singer Wyclef Jean has been tweeting about the earthquake and arrived in Haiti, his native country, on Wednesday. Publicist Leslie Chasky said he is focusing on his family, his Haitian charity, Yele, and responding to the disaster. Shakira, on her Web site, called for donations to Yele and to UNICEF.
Winfrey began her television talk show Wednesday by asking viewers to donate to the Red Cross. "This is a time where we, as a global nation, should come together and support those who are in need," Winfrey said.
Posted by: dananjcon at January 13, 2010 12:50 PM (pr+up)
Robertson is a senile idiot, but don't think the media isn't goint to endlessly repeat his mutterings on Haiti and the Devil and fighting the Kaiser or whatever addled nonsense he's spouting now as if it's mainstream conservative thought.
This earthquake is an awful, awful thing, and I hope everyone gets the hell out of the Navy's way and lets them save a few people.
Posted by: UGAdawg at January 13, 2010 12:50 PM (UQeEa)
anyone but me notice that the first two things in the statement he mentioned were the country's legislative body and the office for collecting taxes?
that withstanding, my prayers are will be with the poor souls that have been affected.
Posted by: bubba smith at January 13, 2010 12:52 PM (LmmGq)
Did any of them give a significant portion of their own money, or just "donate their talents" and spend 30 seconds online harranguing you to give yours?
Posted by: HeatherRadish at January 13, 2010 12:52 PM (mR7mk)
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at January 13, 2010 12:52 PM (DIYmd)
Posted by: United Nations Rape Squads, I mean, Peacekeeping Force at January 13, 2010 12:52 PM (CEb8b)
Posted by: Barack Obama at January 13, 2010 12:54 PM (VmtE9)
Huh. When she arranged for the coronation of Barry, I thought I couldn't possibly despise her anymore, but now I learn I was wrong.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at January 13, 2010 12:54 PM (mR7mk)
Posted by: Bubba Thudd at January 13, 2010 12:54 PM (rdeXG)
Re: Stiller et al
STFU.
When you have nothing more than what you need to survive and have exhausted your resources aiding others, then you can appeal to the masses for their help.
Until then, sell your assets and fund any number of charities you see fit to fund. I'll feel free to do the same.
Posted by: garrett at January 13, 2010 12:55 PM (HeR4y)
So far, from what's been said, only government-type buildings collapsed (Parliment, hospital, etc.). Would be interesting to see how old the buildings were, what the seismic designs on the building were and how close/far the actual construction got was to the design. A rough indicator would be to look for buildings of similar structural design and age as the ones that fell down and see how they fared.
Taking the more pessimistic approach, the best justice for any corrupticrats involved with these buildings would be for them to be inside them when it happened.
Posted by: David in San Diego at January 13, 2010 12:55 PM (GF+6V)
Posted by: joncelli at January 13, 2010 12:55 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Peaches at January 13, 2010 12:57 PM (9Wv2j)
Stiller tweeted late Tuesday that "people in Haiti need our help and attention right now."
That's over 1/3 of my 140 characters!
Posted by: Ben 'Twitter' Stiller at January 13, 2010 12:57 PM (HeR4y)
Posted by: Monty at January 13, 2010 01:02 PM (4Pleu)
Posted by: Peaches at January 13, 2010 01:02 PM (9Wv2j)
On another note I'm curious how much the international community will pitch in to help and how many nations will sit back and let the US handle it all. I recall Turkey gave more money to the families of suicide bombers than they gave for tsunami relief in 2004.
Posted by: Crusty at January 13, 2010 01:03 PM (GvSpB)
Posted by: vai2112 at January 13, 2010 01:03 PM (4ucyN)
Posted by: Bust of Churchill at January 13, 2010 01:04 PM (vsy09)
Posted by: dananjcon at January 13, 2010 01:04 PM (pr+up)
And, as far as useless celebs tweeting, I suppose it helps fire up their vacuous base into possibly contributing. I'm sure the last thing they need in Haiti is a bunch of fuckin' syphilitic celebutards.
Posted by: Peaches at January 13, 2010 01:05 PM (9Wv2j)
#71 I am sure the US will give and give and will me slapped in the face some day down the road for not giving enough. Seems to be SOP for natural disaster relief.
Posted by: bubba smith at January 13, 2010 01:06 PM (LmmGq)
Posted by: Bust of Churchill at January 13, 2010 01:10 PM (vsy09)
I'll throw in tomorrow after I get paid.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at January 13, 2010 01:10 PM (mR7mk)
Worse, the media reports on them like they're news.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at January 13, 2010 01:10 PM (mR7mk)
Pat could have been ignored. Then again why pass up a good chance to make Conservatives look bad.
Drew does not disappoint. Go GOP, Moderates Rule.
Posted by: Pelvis at January 13, 2010 01:11 PM (LlaBi)
Posted by: Moonbat response to Bush's tsunami response at January 13, 2010 01:15 PM (saRwI)
Posted by: Bob T at January 13, 2010 01:16 PM (DmlVS)
Lots of medical resources on a carrier. Communications facilities, too.
Posted by: Peaches at January 13, 2010 01:19 PM (9Wv2j)
Posted by: The Salmon of Capistrano at January 13, 2010 01:20 PM (ZTGFz)
Oh crap. Does this mean we're going to be inundated with TV and radio ads featuring Sean Penn and the rest of those useless fucks?
Friggin' shoot me.
Posted by: ErikW at January 13, 2010 01:21 PM (CEb8b)
86 -- haha I saw what you did there.
Pat Robertson is proof that while God may exist, Old Scratch most definitely does...and he has plans for Pat.
Posted by: unknown jane at January 13, 2010 01:27 PM (5/yRG)
Posted by: bubba smith at January 13, 2010 01:33 PM (LmmGq)
The Hollywood SOP--"raising issue awareness" instead of shutting their yaps and opening their effing checkbooks.
Grrrrr.
Haiti, Bangladesh and Somalia are the best reasons to bring back the U.N. trusteeship mandate that I know. (Soon to be followed by Zimbabwe and Venezuela.)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 13, 2010 01:35 PM (B+qrE)
Posted by: jmchez at January 13, 2010 01:40 PM (W0h4C)
Posted by: harry NAACP reid at January 13, 2010 01:40 PM (x9lGm)
http://blog.salvationarmyusa.org/
Posted by: Peaches at January 13, 2010 01:41 PM (9Wv2j)
Posted by: bubba smith at January 13, 2010 05:33 PM (LmmGq)
You can bet on it. Everytime I hear him speak I want to kick a puppy.
Posted by: ErikW at January 13, 2010 01:42 PM (CEb8b)
Posted by: unknown jane at January 13, 2010 01:42 PM (5/yRG)
Anyways, you mean that OPEC, the UN, and the Chi-coms won't be on the scene within days to provide the suffering with massive amounts of supplies and tangible help? But our eeevil warmongering military will? Tell me it's not true, oh reality-based community! Hah!
And good Lord, bless and watch over the poor, suffering people of Haiti.
Posted by: Chainsaw Chimp at January 13, 2010 01:45 PM (j6H6o)
Posted by: MrMaryk at January 13, 2010 01:48 PM (1Mn8Z)
The fact is, Haiti is barren -- it was not able to support the number of people living there even *before* this catastrophe. Now, if fresh water, food, and shelter are not provided in quantity and for several years, many Haitians will simply starve. This is one of the few cases where I'd advocate the UN declaring Haiti a protectorate and administering it directly.
Posted by: Monty at January 13, 2010 04:47 PM (4Pleu)
How do you reboot a country? Really a lot of people criticize previous generations for being imperialists and believing in the white man's burden but, how else do you even begin to try to fix Haiti?
Haiti is a failed state. It is no better than a tribe of natives in the Brazilian jungle. Those guys would not be recognized as a country, yet, we pretend that Haiti is one. Only a complete takeover and administration from outside for a couple of decades followed by partial administration for two decades more would allow Haiti to be a country again. It's like the movie, The Mouse that Roared. If Haiti started giving refuge to Al Qaeda, we would surely invade.
Would Jamaica volunteer instead? I know the Dominicans are willing to take over but only if there are no Haitians left; they've already done enough harm to the island.
Posted by: jmchez at January 13, 2010 01:50 PM (W0h4C)
Posted by: Lincoln Adams at January 13, 2010 02:01 PM (gLNLT)
Posted by: logprof at January 13, 2010 02:01 PM (gJL6J)
I say we ship Pat Robertson down there with some of the medical supplies. Let that useless fuck work and tell him to shut his useless piehole.
Posted by: BrucetTheRobert at January 13, 2010 02:06 PM (3ZwGl)
Just how far off is Pat Robertson, if the "devil" described was marxism. enforced by Voodoo?
"Failed state" doesn't begin to describe the nature of what Haiti has become, even prior to this not unforeseeable event!
I'm just afraid that a sizeble portion of all donations will end up in Swiss bank accounts owned by local politicians and UN relief bureaucrats! Take gre care in donating to solid relief efforts!
Posted by: Earl T at January 13, 2010 02:08 PM (tUjCS)
Posted by: di butler/murderous bitch at January 13, 2010 02:09 PM (S3xX1)
I heard that, too. The death toll is going to be astronomical in this. Having lived through a fairly major earthquake in California, I can't even imagine what it would be like to experience a magnitude 7 in such an ill-equipped and impoverished place. It's really heartbreaking.
Posted by: Peaches at January 13, 2010 02:16 PM (9Wv2j)
In the meantime, they're in a world of hurt, especially since they were hit by a Cat 5 hurricane a few summers ago.
Posted by: kbdabear at January 13, 2010 02:22 PM (sYxEE)
Posted by: Trimegistus at January 13, 2010 02:22 PM (hcLgF)
Jamaicans detest Haitians, it's not likely
Posted by: kbdabear at January 13, 2010 02:24 PM (sYxEE)
Now, if I can pimp a charity that actually gets shit done, http://www.iocc.org/
If you want to do something concrete, assemble some of their "health kits", which will not only be so incredibly important in a place like Haiti, but will probably constitute immeasurable wealth to these impoverished folk. http://tinyurl.com/yc4xe9e
On the health kits, browbeat the shit out of the toothless manager of the local Big Lots or call in a favor from that Wal-Mart Asst Mgr you used to hose and explain what you're doing and you can usually get the ingredients for a song. Which means more stuff for the folks who need it.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at January 13, 2010 02:25 PM (h/zKr)
Posted by: Harry Reid at January 13, 2010 02:31 PM (h/zKr)
Posted by: kbdabear at January 13, 2010 06:24 PM (sYxEE)
Really?
I can see why Dominicans would detest Haitians but what did Haitians ever do to Jamaicans?
Posted by: jmchez at January 13, 2010 02:35 PM (W0h4C)
Do they choose to have the Negro dialect? And are they clean?
Posted by: Majority Leader Harry Reid at January 13, 2010 02:36 PM (j4xgZ)
This clearly demonstrates the need for comprehensive healthcare reform, which would have been possible if it weren't for 8 years of Bush-Cheney. Also, I think I have enough votes to pass it.
Finally, if Bush had saw this coming, we wouldn't be where we are today.
Posted by: Speaker Of The House Pelosi at January 13, 2010 02:39 PM (j4xgZ)
Shit, the death toll is just starting. Wait until people start dying from lack of water (probably starting already), infections caused by untreated wounds, cholera, dysentary, and violent crime as people become desparate for food and water.
Wouldn't surprise me at all if the death toll reaches a million. Or more.
Posted by: John McCain at January 13, 2010 02:40 PM (P33XN)
Posted by: Peaches at January 13, 2010 02:40 PM (9Wv2j)
92% effective. 8% administrative, fundraising, etc. They go anywhere in the world. While they do tend to concentrate in Orthodox countries, the health kits go through Church World Services, and ecumenical organization, and damned efficient in its own right. They're going to be all over Haiti.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at January 13, 2010 02:44 PM (h/zKr)
Shit, the death toll is just starting. Wait until people start dying from lack of water (probably starting already), infections caused by untreated wounds, cholera, dysentary, and violent crime as people become desparate for food and water.
Wouldn't surprise me at all if the death toll reaches a million. Or more.
Posted by: John McCain at January 13, 2010 06:40 PM (P33XN)
Seems like a tsunami would have been more quick and merciful.
Posted by: jmchez at January 13, 2010 02:47 PM (W0h4C)
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at January 13, 2010 02:48 PM (h/zKr)
Roberston believes, as per the Bible, that nations bring disaster on themselves when they, through their leaders particularly, "turn away from God". Any Christians or Jews out there in Moronland who don't believe that too, could you please show me in the Tanak or the NT where God says he stopped the whole bestowing and removing His blessings on countries & peoples thing?
And to all you conservatives who hate Pat Robertson (and any other known Christian who speaks publicly) 'cause the MSM use his mutterings to bash you with, don't waste your time, the MSM will never stop even when he's dead. They hate you just as much as they hate Pat. No matter what you say, if you don't vote Dem, to them you are the same as Pat Robertson.
Oh, and as Americans, you should be prepared to die to preserve Pat's right to say whatever the hell he wants, whenever he wants, about whomever he wants (except for the common "fire-in-a-crowded-theatre restrictions)--especially when he's not paying for the microphone with your taxes!
Posted by: follower of IXTHUS at January 13, 2010 02:57 PM (Vz1WE)
This is going to need to be a rather lengthy assistance campaign.
Posted by: Grimmy at January 13, 2010 03:00 PM (4Dbne)
Posted by: follower of IXTHUS at January 13, 2010 06:57 PM (Vz1WE)
I never see you at the Douchebags Anonymous meetings anymore. And now I know why. See ya on Channel 47!
Posted by: The Very Right Reverend Pat Robertson, Douchebag at January 13, 2010 03:01 PM (h/zKr)
And to all you conservatives who hate Pat Robertson (and any other known Christian who speaks publicly) 'cause the MSM use his mutterings to bash you with, don't waste your time, the MSM will never stop even when he's dead. They hate you just as much as they hate Pat. No matter what you say, if you don't vote Dem, to them you are the same as Pat Robertson.
Oh, and as Americans, you should be prepared to die to preserve Pat's right to say whatever the hell he wants, whenever he wants, about whomever he wants (except for the common "fire-in-a-crowded-theatre restrictions)--especially when he's not paying for the microphone with your taxes!
Posted by: follower of IXTHUS at January 13, 2010 06:57 PM (Vz1WE)
Not a bad point.
Posted by: jmchez at January 13, 2010 03:16 PM (W0h4C)
Not a bad point.
Posted by: jmchez at January 13, 2010 07:16 PM (W0h4C)
Not bad from a douchebag, granted. Solid B+
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at January 13, 2010 03:17 PM (h/zKr)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 13, 2010 03:17 PM (QECjC)
Posted by: Mystery Guest at January 13, 2010 03:29 PM (ITzbJ)
Posted by: Chris Edwards at January 13, 2010 03:30 PM (SLcKc)
Posted by: Jerry Brown at January 13, 2010 03:34 PM (A46hP)
More good charities:
Catholic Relief Services
Mercy Corps
Posted by: Peony Moss at January 13, 2010 03:47 PM (bpHcn)
"Pat Robertson is proof that God doesn't exist."
No, dear Iowahawk, Pat Robertson is proof that evil exists.
Posted by: CattusMagnus at January 13, 2010 04:02 PM (1RgQ+)
Posted by: nraendowment at January 13, 2010 04:08 PM (pk3HD)
72 Maybe it's just my personal bias, but why are they "tweeting" about it?
Because they are so dumb that they think we would never know that there was an earthquake in Haiti and that people are in desparate need of help unless they tell us. duh.
Posted by: moi at January 13, 2010 04:10 PM (7FgWm)
http://tinyurl.com/ybanr2c
Posted by: MPFS, 2010 Fish Stick at January 13, 2010 04:18 PM (u6GDa)
Posted by: hous bin pharteen at January 13, 2010 04:19 PM (pU4D7)
But...we are the first country to respond when people need help.
Go figure.
Posted by: MPFS, 2010 Fish Stick at January 13, 2010 04:25 PM (u6GDa)
Posted by: hous bin pharteen at January 13, 2010 04:27 PM (pU4D7)
Posted by: mbt on sale at January 13, 2010 08:18 PM (oFNle)
Prescient and empathetic. Jerry Niven warned us about this.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at January 13, 2010 04:36 PM (qWLc4)
Posted by: Railwriter at January 13, 2010 04:47 PM (daRzV)
Fuck all Dem/socialist/marxist/anti-Constitution scumbags. And the horse they rode in on.
Useless, corrupt bastards.
Posted by: sf at January 13, 2010 05:01 PM (xz5dP)
Posted by: sf at January 13, 2010 09:01 PM (xz5dP)
The Precedent basically did that, himself, when he announced,
I have directed my administration to respond with a swift, coordinated, and aggressive effort to save lives.
When you think about it, that sentence doesn't even make any sense.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at January 13, 2010 05:10 PM (A46hP)
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Posted by: Blue State Sil at January 13, 2010 05:24 PM (JNtoO)
Hey, good news. We finally found a place to send the Gitmo detainees.
Silver linings, and all that.
Posted by: comatus at January 13, 2010 05:35 PM (/VEEI)
Posted by: curious at January 13, 2010 07:56 PM (p302b)
Posted by: David Gillies at January 14, 2010 05:32 AM (2FZO3)
My prayers are with the poor Haitians. It's really an awful tradgedy.
Posted by: MelodicMetal at January 14, 2010 05:38 AM (x4S2a)
Oliver North testified in his Iran/Contra hearings that we needed electronic eavedropping in the Middle-East. In 36 hours there was a ship fully rigged with equipment, painted marked and flagged as Norweigien, and off-shore monitoring communications... in 36 hours. 2 days after a quake... no people, no equipment, no water, no food, no security forces, no mobile cell sites, no US aid.
And, apparenly, no out-cry, this time
Posted by: Scott Z at January 14, 2010 08:52 AM (jndQn)
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