1 Vandals and Huns sacking the place? Can't we wait a little longer for that?

2 Who runs Barter Town?

3

So just as the Europeans are clue'ing up that their shit don't work, and money really doesn't grow on trees, the US is dumbing down and looking to follow their failed example.

The irony of that is just a kicker, no?  Blame it on our MSM.  Soon in this country, it will not be safe to say you are a reporter without people scorning you for you arrogant past (most FNC, not the locals, exempt from that statement).

4 Who needs vandals when we have THOR!!! (reference to an earlier thread)

5 And this years "No Shit" award goes to....

6

And yet people will make this an excuse to quit capitalism all together because capitalism failed to grow the economy fast enough. Expect to soon hear "arguments" that capitalism failed because we can't have everything for free.

7 Socialism may collapse and drag Capitalism down with it, but Capitalism will rise from the ashes. Socialism, not so much.

8 Gone fishin Galt...

9 So just as the Europeans are clue'ing up that their shit don't work, and money really doesn't grow on trees, the US is dumbing down and looking to follow their failed example.

We're on the same curve, just on different ends.

Like that story Ace linked earlier about how Greece's financial problems might force them to get the gov't out of healthcare and energy.

10 <i>Oh Lord Obama, wonÂ’t you at least buy me a Mercedes Benz ?
The uptown folks drive Porsches, they must make amends.
Worked hard watching Oprah most of my lifetime, no help from my friends,
So Lord Obama, wonÂ’t you at least buy me a Mercedes Benz ?

Oh Lord Obama, wonÂ’t you buy me a health care plan?
Working to pay for it myself is too hard on me.
I want to get prescription drugs and a doctor for free,
So Lord Obama, wonÂ’t you buy me a health care plan ?

Oh Lord Obama, wonÂ’t you buy me a retirement on the town ?
Prove that youÂ’ll take care of me and buy my next round.
Oh Lord, wonÂ’t you buy me that big house down the block that I found?
IÂ’m counting on you, Lord Obama, please donÂ’t let me down.
- JJ </i>

11 Socialism may collapse and drag Capitalism down with it, but Capitalism will rise from the ashes.

Indeed.

12 "The New Dark Ages are upon us. All we need are a bunch of Huns and Vandals sacking the joint to make it complete."
Does La Raza and the Hispanic Gang infestation count for nothing?

13 Millions of Europeans will have to work in August! Catastrophe!

14 My mailman looks like Kevin Costner.

15 I'll soon take all my troubles over to Obama Rue
You know The One with the never ending Hope and Change shtick
He's got a pad down on Pennsylvania avenue
He'll be passin' out little bottles of Obama Potion Number Nine

I'll tell him that I'm having trouble finding a job and making my mortgage payments
It's gotten even worse in these last few weeks
He'll kiss me on the cheek and he'll made a magic sign
He'll say "What you need is Obama Potion Number Nine"

He'll turn around and gave me a wink
He'll say "I'm gonna have my Michelle make it up right here in the White House sink"
It'll smell like Chicago, it'll look like socialist ink
I'll hold my nose, I'll close my eyes, I'll take a drink

I won't know if it is day or night
I'll start grabbin' everyone else's money that is in sight
But when there's nothin' left to grab
It'll break my little bottle of Obama Potion Number Nine

16

#14

My mailman looks like the next Supreme Court Justice. 

17 I think the barbarians sacked us back on 9/11...

How is Europe going to increase the GDP if all their workers on vacation most of the time?

18 My mailman looks like Kevin Costner.

Mail really is something the developed world takes for granted.  All that could stop rather quickly if the postmen weren't getting paid or their checks were bouncing.

19 Well when all else fails we could try doing what the Constitution says....

20 How is Europe going to increase the GDP if all their workers on vacation most of the time?

Maybe we should loan them our president?  Why should we get all the unicorns?  I was taught sharing in kindergarten.

21

#18

No mail?  Really?  No bills!  Obama the Merciful!

22 "You only postponed it. Judgement Day is inevitable."

23 Now Obama is hot on health care
HeÂ’s made it his personal affair
SocialistÂ’s the country will be
As he goose steeped all over the Constitution, said he
‘cause you see, the misery I bring, you must all share

24 IP = 115.193.175.154

25 Europe better be careful.  Those giant Vikings in their Volvos are going to come down from the fjords and start sacking cities again, killing the men, raping the women, and leaving behind all those bastard children that will end up getting thrown in jail to be sent to Australia.

26 ...we could try doing what the Constitution says...

I'd squelch that subversive shit if I were you comrade. 

27 We all get bopped by Bjork.

28 All that could stop rather quickly if the postmen weren't getting paid or their checks were bouncing.

There's not much mail to collect anymore.  In Minnesota they are tasking the postman to collect canned goods from mailboxes.  Yes.  Really.

Honestly, I'm not sure when they're going to figure out the best place to establish a canned food drive is right outside the grocery store.

29 Well if its vandals and huns, I am joining the vandals, because I like their uniform and that big red V on the front.  plus the chicks are hotter.

30 I like her island.

31

#28

I've heard the same thing here in Denver. 

32 EU to Europeans: Stop fucking eachother and start making babies.

EU to South Africa: Here, take all our condoms.  We shouldn't have them.

33

The New Dark Ages are upon us. All we need are a bunch of Huns and Vandals sacking the joint to make it complete.

Don't forget goats in the street and that universal crowd pleaser:  The Black Death(coming from a dubious inoculation at clinic near you after a practice run as H1N1 in 2009 to see how many Kool-aid drinkers there really are)

After all, the world population has to get below 1 billion somehow and environmentalists aren't just offing themselves every day now are they?

34 Socialist here love peace too much just like europe. Evey thing they love usually gets murdered cause they love peace too much.

35 wtfci, that's just pitiable. Do you expect anyone to believe that you don't know that the letter carriers' annual food drive hasn't gone on for decades? Sure, they're government employees and surely must deserve to die for it, but really, you're choking on your own bile here. Yes, really.

36 The New Dark Ages, now with 20% more futility!

37 New  Age with a really dark gray.

38

#36

Dark? 

39 Do you expect anyone to believe that you don't know that the letter carriers' annual food drive hasn't gone on for decades?

An organization that is losing billions of dollars could just stop spending all that wasted money on mail trucks and collecting canned goods and instead just buy a shit ton of canned goods.

Wasted capital won't feed more hungry people.

40 Does the iPod have a campfire starting app?

41

Forget Vandals and Hun.  Europe is overdue for another knock down drag out war... 

42 Back in the early 80's, I graduated with a degree in Business Economics from UCSB -- which, somewhat oddly for an institution that had student riots just over a decade earlier, was a bastion of free-market laissez faire thinking. After the Berlin Wall came down and the Chinese turned toward private enterprise, I remember thinking how the final nails were being driven into the coffin of redistributive social engineering as a plausible substitute for an actual economic system.

Being as young as I was, and noting that the pattern of depressions roughly every thirty years (one for each generation) had ended in the '30s, I had hopes that the great scourge of a command economy might be on the verge of eradication as much as smallpox was. The forces of knowledge were being brought to bear on an ancient enemy of mankind.

You may well imagine my alarm, disgust, and dismay with today's crony capitalism, Marxism behind fake smiles, and machinations of the vampire squid. These are dark days, indeed, when complacent Europe is seeing the truth of Thatcher's "other people's money" quote, while the Chicago Machine drags the US into another cycle of socialist, envy-driven, wealth destruction against the will of the majority.

Against all that, however, I have a great advantage that younger people do not have -- I remember Jimmy Carter, and I remember Ronald Reagan. I remember the 1973 oil crisis, the embassy in Iran, a President that moped around saying how miserable things were, and a track record of 20+ years of going from bad to worse with no hope in sight. I remember thinking about Reagan as, "I hope we slide backwards much more slowly, like we did with Ford."

And then.......BOOM! Our people were back from Iran. Troublemaking nations started making nice. Tax rates started falling. That stuff I was learning in Econ courses -- yep, just like that! Light-hearted jokes and banter replaced the gloom'n'doom. People started to straighten up and stand tall. You saw more American flags around for a variety of reasons.....the clouds parted and you could just see America as a shining city on a hill....

Since them, I'm sorry to say, we've seen 22 years of pissing it away by degrees. 22 years of feeling the yoke over government grow heavier and heavier. 22 years of "compromise" that means capitulation, and "fairness" that handicaps achievement. It may have slid less with Billy Jeff, the Clenis, than it did with "Read My Quivering Lips" Bush, the senior....or it may have been more -- who cares? It was heading downhill. I have a great deal of respect for W's work against "enemies, foreign and domestic" -- but, on balance, it's been a holding action -- we gained ground against jihadists and lost it to statists; we gained ground against rivals and lost ground with allies. So it goes.

We now have the worst President in recent memory -- where Carter took -10 and made it -22, Obama took -4 and made it -19 in half as many years. And yet, here's the thing: we feel it more because we were accustomed to so much better. Despite the sting of political reverses, the frustration of seeing the resurrection of deservedly discredited theories, the dismay at seeing our wealth wrested from our grasp and wasted.....we're still better off than we were in 1979 -- and in 1979 we didn't know it was possible to do climb out of the rut. So far as any of us knew, we were on a long, slow, inevitable slide in 1979. While our current slide is 22 years long, and counting -- and while the last two years of nationalizations, fraud, and looting are proceeding faster than previously credible -- we know that there's nothing inevitable involved.

If this infection burns itself out in Europe, it may destroy a reservoir that has infected the world repeatedly. If the disease is stymied in DC, we may yet survive without too many disfiguring scars.....and if the disease can be quarantined in Chicago and Detroit, we may yet improve the lives of billions throughout the globe, as we have done so many times in the history of our great nation.

43 Europe is STILL fucked. Listen to what he's saying. He isn't advocating abandoning their social welfare model. He wants to grow the economy to maintain it.

The problem is that social welfare model is the very thing that is inhibiting the growth of the economy.

Until Europeans and their leaders can recognize that, they are just buying a little time at extraordinary interest rates.

44 At least the Europeans don't have to shoulder the enormous cost of being the world's policeman.

45

And with these predictable and inevitable crises looming in Europe, fools here in the USA put a Communist in the White House and socialists in control of Congress; the situation preceding The Great Depression and World War II all over again. Fully half of Americans never learn. They are either mentally ill or incredibly stupid. That is why they spend their entire lives as creeps, losers, misfits and perverts. 

46 Yeah, CO.

Everything would have been so much better if John McCain was president.

47 Did I say that? Don't misquote me, fool, and don't take my words out of context.

48 Yes, always remember that we have a teleprompter President that desperately wants us to be more like the EU, which is rapidly realizing it is turning into a giant failed state.

49 While drunk you can say europe just right and it makes a vomit sound.euuuuurrrrrrope.

50 Try it. get drunk

51 i'll wait

52 At least the Americans don't have a parasitic public sector.

Oh, wait . . .

53

Eursoc is double plus ungood.

Ingsoc makes my taco pop. 

54 sector?

55 "Don't misquote me, fool..."

Fully half of Americans never learn.

Which half "never learn?"

The ones who voted for McCain or the ones who voted for Obama?

56 i voted for that atlas shrug party

57 At least the troll sector is going strong.

58 Notice the US gov't always wants to emulate the worst parts of Europe. France has nuclear energy, but no, we should emulate the broken health care system of the UK.

59 Oh, that sector. My home.

60

Stop bothering me while I'm trying to eat my Belgian waffles. 

61 The european women that work in factories have to wear hair nets on their legs.

62 Shorn of a lot of the posturing and strawmen, both free-marketers and Marxists/Socialists/Communists/Fascists are looking to the betterment of their society.

The fundamental difference is that Capitalists recognize that the lower bound of wealth is, and always will be, zero -- no matter how much effort is expended to raise the downtrodden, elevate the underfoot, or whatever you call it this week.....there are some people lazy, demented, disabled, disturbed, or dysfunctional enough to have nothing. The low end of the bell curve is anchored there by mathematics and the laws of nature, and the best way to improve the average is to move the upper bound higher.

Progressives of whatever stripe wish to compress the difference between haves and have-nots, rich and poor. We can all move off to a grand socialist utopia where everyone is equally rich.

There may be room for a Grand Unification Theory of Social Economics, where the shape of the curve is addressed, but otherwise the Capitalists are way, way ahead on points in the observable real world. Every redistributive system has tended toward a grand socialist utopia where everyone is equally poor, because compressing the range between high and low always converges on zero, the natural low.

63 And that's why God and his cousins invented the black market.

64 Every redistributive system has tended toward a grand socialist utopia

Like all the money we recently spent bailing out the Capitalists?

I think the lower bounds of the Capitalist's income dipped well below zero before Uncle Sugar stepped in and saved them.

65 I keep thinking of all that "We need to become more forward thinking like Europe" shit that the left kept spewing the last decade

66 65 I keep thinking of all that "We need to become more forward thinking like Europe" shit that the left kept spewing the last decade

Exactly.  And when we go down the tubes, who's gonna bail us out?

Oh, that's right, China.

67

Fully half of Americans never learn.

Which half "never learn?"

The ones who voted for McCain or the ones who voted for Obama?

Posted by: snapdragon at May 11, 2010 02:32 AM (5Etcj)

Now, that was a good question.

Initially, I was tempted to say that all of the voters fucked up, because even if McCain had been elected, that jackass probably would have bent over backwards to accommodate the agendas of the Democrats in control of Congress, consistent with his history of doing so in the past..

But on second thought, and although I have always disliked McCain, I'm now inclined to suspect that we might be slightly better off if that narcissistic jackass had been elected, if only because it has become evident that Obama is a madman. 

68 Drones are flying over BP headquaters.

69 I've been waiting to say that all my life.

70

But on second thought, and although I have always disliked McCain, I'm now inclined to suspect that we might be slightly better off if that narcissistic jackass had been elected, if only because it has become evident that Obama is a madman. 

Also, Sarah Palin would be a better VP than Plugs Biden and you gotta remember that it wasn't Congress that did shit like stiff the investors by allowing the Unions to line-jump with Chrysler/Gm etc. (I could give a long list of evil Obama shit that really isn't the fault of Congress and McCain never would have had a hand in)

71 Sorry for the long posts -- I'm trying to arrange a re-roofing project and it's been drizzling all day....so I've been doing that grumpy introspective musing thing.

72 Utopia is just around the corner, what's wrong with you people? Free stuff for everyone, and none of those nasty rich people to make us all feeeeeeeelll bad.

73 64 Every redistributive system has tended toward a grand socialist utopia

Like all the money we recently spent bailing out the Capitalists?

I think the lower bounds of the Capitalist's income dipped well below zero before Uncle Sugar stepped in and saved them.

Posted by: snapdragon at May 11, 2010 02:43 AM (5Etcj)

***********************************

If public money was spent bailing them out, it's pretty self-evident that they weren't part of the free market. I was intentionally hazy regarding the nomenclature, because each side tends to redefine the words used for the other side to mean whatever they please.

As an example, Fascism refers to government control of nominally private enterprises through, to make a long story short, bullying. Communism refers to government control of formerly private enterprises through outright confiscation. Socialism refers to government control of nominally private enterprises through politically-derived incentives and penalties. If you get hung up on whether a particular nudge is of one flavor or another, you can lose sight of the fact that government is controlling what was once private.

74

The New Dark Ages are upon us. All we need are a bunch of Huns and Vandals sacking the joint to make it complete.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at 01:09 AM

An Indonesian isn't good enough for you?  He'll have our cities burning.

75

Also, Sarah Palin would be a better VP

Posted by: Speller at May 11, 2010 02:57 AM (o0R2E)

 

Pulleeze! Get real! I don't want to go there, except to say that your notion is chilling!  

76 74

The New Dark Ages are upon us. All we need are a bunch of Huns and Vandals sacking the joint to make it complete.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at 01:09 AM

Do the invaders from the south count?

77 Do the invaders from the south count?

Posted by: davidt at May 11, 2010 03:20 AM (aag4W)

 

Badda-Bing!

78 If Mexico uses to much carbon, it may see drones too.

79 Clean energy war.

80 The EU is collapsing because they didn't go socialist enough

We'll go full blown socialist and the Dems will grab 1000 seats in Congress!

I can't wait for my free meth!

81 Maybe some intrepid journalist could ask a prominent US Democrat why Euro-socialism is failing? And follow up by asking what the differences are between Obama's agenda and Euro-socialism?

82 Yup, the Democrats have no substantial arguments: It's all about raw power.

83 More on #82 here

84 IP = 59.60.120.250

85 Fuck off, GHD spammer!

86 IP = 59.60.120.250

87 Who is Herman Van Rompuy?!?

"You have the charisma of a damp rag and the appearance of a low grade bank clerk!"

Heh.

Still funny.

Don't know much about this Farage character or UKIP but (based on this) he's probably some sort of honorary moron...

88 IP = 59.60.120.250

89 I get the last comment on this post.

Give me libertarianism or give me Beth.

90 Hey, whats up?

91 IP = 59.60.120.250

92 "Millions of Europeans will have to work in August! " Thread winner.

93 At least the Europeans don't have to shoulder the enormous cost of being the world's policeman.

Actually Ass Draggin', that's a very astute observation on your part, although I very much doubt that you are capable of usefully extrapolating from that datum.

No, the Europeans didn't have to shoulder the immense costs of being the world's policeman.  In fact the Europeans didn't even have to shoulder much of the cost of their own god damned defense after WWII.

WE DID THAT.

Partially out of a goofy sense of nobless oblige but also out of a sense of self preservation. 

I mean, Jeebus!

What kind of backwards-ass, blood-thirsty, fucking continental culture can inflame most of the globe in world-wide slaughter and mayhem twice in the space of 40 years?

Do you imagine that Western Europe could have developed and kept up their welfare states if not for the lessening of budgetary burdens provided by our military support, or the industrial innovation that the U.S.A has provided?

I still remember when I first got the news that Obama had been officially elected.

I knew that we (the little people in the U.S.A) were especially and uniquely fucked.

It's not like we are Europe and get to draft on America's successes.

There is no one we can draft on.

If we are not leading, it pretty much all goes to shit for everyone else too.

And no, Ass Draggin', this is not some sort of chauvinistic, "We're #1!" sentiment.

Just cold hard facts.

Diminish America and you diminish all of the world.

Nowhere left worth going to.

If America gets "cut down to size", then every country in the world suffers.

From New Zealand to Estonia, Chile to Isreal...

We go down, they get eaten..



 

94 44 At least the Europeans don't have to shoulder the enormous cost of being the world's policeman.

Posted by: snapdragon at May 11, 2010 02:08 AM (5Etcj)

 

Yeah, and we can be certain that you weren't one of those policemen,  guaranteeing anyone's freedom ..., you parasitic, clueless ass.

95 my mailman looks like the guy who owned the liquor store I used to go to back in New York. I honestly have to do a double take every time. Anyway, carry on...

96 we have muslims standing in for the huns and visigoths.

97 That is why they spend their entire lives as creeps, losers, misfits and perverts AND Democrat voters. FIFY

98

The New Dark Ages are upon us. All we need are a bunch of Huns illegals and Vandals Jihadists sacking the joint to make it complete.

FIFY

My apolgies in advance to Ace and lauraw for being racist.

99 To paraphrase Margaret Thatcher, "The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money." Question: What is another name for a system of benefits in which you eventually run out of other people's money? Answer: A Ponzi scheme. People who get into a Ponzi scheme early do very well, and there is great resistance on the part of those who are involved, even if they are very intelligent, to recognize that the system is unsustainable. The financial panic revealed Madoff's Ponzi scheme, and the birth dearth and the financial markets are starting to reveal that the welfare state is also a Ponzi scheme.

100 Socialism done in by the Sexual Revolution?  Socialism could probably bumble along as a sub-optimal economic system for small, homogeneous societies with relatively closed markets.  However, combining the ever increasing need for revenues with a declining population and corresponding economic growth won't work.  Productivity increases and immigration cannot bandage the problem forever.

101 We haven't been a true capitalist country since the 1800s. We have been a socialist country since the 30s. 

We are now rushing headlong into communism. Kelo and the EPA signaled the end of private property.

We too are living on borrowed time and money. It will all come crashing down.  Sooner rather than later.

102 Socialism could probably bumble along as a sub-optimal economic system for small, homogeneous societies with relatively closed markets.

Socialism has never worked in any setting it has been tried in. Even in small countries like Sweden it has failed.  The problem is that it ignores basic human nature.

As Frederick Batist, said humans will always seek the easier way out. When it is easier to loot the products of others for a living rather than work, people will become looters. It is the job of the government to make looting less attractive. When the government participates in the looting the end is only a matter of time. 

103 To talk about it is one thing. To correct it is another thing. How will you turn it around?

104

Blame it on our MSM.  Soon in this country, it will not be safe to say you are a reporter without people scorning you for you arrogant past

They will deserve anything that happens to them.  I consider them traitors to their country.

105 To talk about it is one thing. To correct it is another thing. How will you turn it around?

To date, no country has been able to do that. I suspect it will require a complete collapse of government and society followed by the rise of a supreme leader for life.  Eventually he will be deposed and perhaps capitalism will rise again.

Keep in mind that the U.S. is the only country to rise with true capitalism and Constitutionally protected freedoms. This is not the normal throughout the world.  

When congress and the "people" allowed the Constitution to be mangled starting really hard in the 30s we were lost.

106 I woke up with no power and that it started. Well its not the end of civilzation because of the BHO admin, but it sure felt like it this morning. I will hate it when I have to ride the horse into town to get some beans.

107 All they need is some "pro-growth tax increases", and they'll be back to their old selves in no time.

108

Euro Erases Gains as Bailout Optimism Ebbs; Chinese Stocks Fall

May 11 (Bloomberg) -- The euro lost all of yesterdayÂ’s gains on concern the $1 trillion bailout will hurt European economic growth. Stocks fell, paring the MSCI World IndexÂ’s biggest advance in a year. Chinese shares entered a bear market.

The euro weakened 0.8 percent against the dollar at 10:41 a.m. in London, trading below the level it was at before the European Union-led aid package was announced early yesterday. The Stoxx Europe 600 Index fell 1.2 percent, after rising 7.2 percent yesterday. Futures on the Standard & PoorÂ’s 500 Index dropped 1 percent.
----------

It's gonna be a wild ride.

And its only just started.

109 I disagree, Vic. You're too pessimistic. Get out of your home, and do whatever you can do to get Republicans elected. Moping about the situation won't change anything. Well, except that your paralysis will empower Democrats, while getting you depressed. I'm exuberant about the fall election. We're going to clean their clocks, and Obama will be a lame duck.

110 From a second source:

GLOBAL MARKETS: European Stocks Fall; Bailout Reassessed

LONDON (Dow Jones)--European stock markets were sharply lower Tuesday, along with the euro, as investors began to reassess the viability of the EUR750 billion euro zone rescue package.

"Yesterday's strong rally following the euro-zone bailout announcement has halted as questions marks over whether the EUR750 billion amount will be enough," said Dolmen Securities, "and while it addresses the sovereign liquidity issues, it does not help resolve the current solvency pressures facing many of the EU states."

There were also concerns over potential fiscal tightening in China, after the country's inflation data came in stronger than expected. "These figures will add fuel to the argument that China is struggling to control its inflation and will find it difficult to maintain price stability without undermining its growing economy," Dolmen said.

By 1020 GMT, the Stoxx Europe 600 index had lost 1.5% to 250.28. London's FTSE 100 index was down 1.7% at 5296.34, Frankfurt's DAX index was 1% lower at 5960.28, and Paris's CAC-40 index was down 1.8% at 3653.66.
---------

Looks like there's chaos 'round the corner.

111 We're going to clean their clocks, and Obama will be a lame duck.

Yes, we will clean their clocks but if past history is a guide it will not reverse the trend to communism or bring back capitalism.

112 Avenger said:  ''All we need are a bunch of Huns and Vandals sacking the joint to make it complete.''

They come forth as we speak to pick the bones of the rotting 'American Empire' _{(a little commie lingo for flavor)}. They are from the south, doncha know!

113 I guess they can argue that Euro socialism COULD work, IF they have a citizenry like Sweden had 30 years ago and don't bring in (or go fight) hordes of North African Muslims (or whatever group of third worlders)

Free school, 8 weeks vacation, free health care, retirement at 55 is doable.

But it requires most everyone playing by the rules, and utilization of increased productivity.  Instead the Swedes grew tired of utopia and succumbed to religion, the "diversity" religion. 

They are now robbed at will by the imported thugs, as I understand it, schools burned, riots, free speech squelched.

114

Now I know why I have seen a bunch of extremely negative articles about this guy in the past few days.  Before last week I never even knew his name.  This little gem of a speech explains it.  They were trying to do some serious pre-damage control.  Even my local LLL paper had nearly a half page article on this guy and why he is not revelvant.

115 I don't know what you assholes are moaning about.  The economy is roaring back. The Dems are gonna ROLL come November!

116 revelvant=relevant.

117
>>I don't know what you assholes are moaning about. 
..crapdragon,

You are a waste of flesh. You have no rhythm. You are ridiculous and obnoxious. You are the moral equivalent of a leech. You are a living emptiness, a meaningless void. You are sour and senile. You are a disease, you puerile, one-handed, slack-jawed, drooling, meatslapper. On a good day you're a half-wit. You remind me of drool. Fool.

118 When did Ace give the Purple Headed Avenger his posting privileges back?  I thought P Head was on permanent comment clean-up duty.  Look for hits to drop.

119 If the MFM says we are anarchists, then that's what we will be.

120

Again, I disagree, Vic.

Go to your local Republican Headquarters. Get them to give you their list of local, registered Independent and Democrat voters. Phone those Democrats and Independents from the phone bank there in the Republican headquarters. You're a smart, well informed, knowledgeable, savvy and persuasive guy. Put your talents to good use. Explain to those Democrats and Independents why they should vote for Republicans. Be nice to them, and be patient with them, and don't let them goad you into losing your temper with them. Phoning them will be more effective than phoning Republicans, most of whom will turn out to vote this time anyway. It works. Trust me. We didn't bother to campaign for McCain, because we dislike him. But we campaigned for our local Republican candidates, and we campaigned for Bush/Cheney twice, phoning thousands of Democrats and Independents, and it worked. In fact, many of them were pleasantly surprised to hear from us.

121 They act stupidly.

122 64 Every redistributive system has tended toward a grand socialist utopia

Like all the money we recently spent bailing out the Capitalists?

I think the lower bounds of the Capitalist's income dipped well below zero before Uncle Sugar stepped in and saved them.

Posted by: snapdragon at May 11, 2010 02:43 AM (5Etcj)

Snap....you ignorant twat. B+rry's crew bailed out their friends with taxpayer earners credit. period. The market was thwarted by government intervention. Now there is an artificial floor that will collapse too. Only when subjected to market clearing bidding action can the asset base begin contributing to growth. This is a house of cards...

123 Vic - I wouldn't call Sweden small; I was referring to Amish and Quaker communities, small island nations, etc.

124 Four legs good, two legs bad.

125 All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.

126 I wouldn't call Sweden small; I was referring to Amish and Quaker communities, small island nations, etc.

OK, that may work but I think it would have more to do with their religion than with an economic sense.

127 Isn't "diversity" a religion that has been established by the state? 

Obamassiah preaches the virtues of redistribution, those in his church get treated better than the "infidels", and true believers are told to turn off alternative media so as not to hear impure thoughts. 

This new religion is anti-constitution, its priesthood meets in the holy of holies ... the ethereal world of academia.

These clowns walked on water, but the rock just under the surface was capitalism.  Now that they have ventured out toward the deep, they are sinking like stones.

128 ...EU president warned that the bloc risks the end of its expensive welfare programs if it can't speed up economic growth...

"With 1 percent growth we can't finance our social model any more," he said.  "We need to double ...economic growth.."

Many are skeptical that can be achieved...""

Easy to see the line of attack the socialists are queueing up:  "Growth has ta' be X percent in order to finance our welfare program.  Oh, gee, growth was only half of X.  So SEE, it's all the fault of DOZE LAZY BIZNESSMENS!!  If they hadn't been such lazy bums we'd be in GREAT financial shape!

    So it would only be proper social justice to CONFISCATE their property, sell it off and use the proceeds to continue to pay six-figure salaries to thousands of government administrators.  After all, WE'RE ALL SMARTER THAN YOU!!"

Just watch.

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7 Socialism may collapse and drag Capitalism down with it, but Capitalism will rise from the ashes.

Socialism, not so much

 

Unfortunately, socialism is the worst kind of parasite, and it will remain firmly attached to the nearly dead corpse (with a p!) of capitalism.  Figuring out how to dislodge the vampire of socialism and put a stake through its bloodsucking heart is the task of the 21st century.

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"Yesterday's strong rally following the euro-zone bailout announcement has halted as questions marks over whether the EUR750 billion amount will be enough," said Dolmen Securities, "and while it addresses the sovereign liquidity issues, it does not help resolve the current solvency pressures facing many of the EU states."

Pretty much confirms what they were saying over at zerohedge and Mish's site yesterday.  Looks like the US market basically used the "bailout" (which still hasn't been officially activated, AFAIK) to temporarily clear out the shorts and try to keep the speculators from calling the EU's bluff.

That game won't last very long--it doesn't matter how much funny money they shovel into the black hole, the insolvency issues are deep and run across the whole European continent.  Greece wasn't a domino, but it is a bellwether for the rest of Europe.  And anyone who thinks that it won't eventually hit us is kidding themselves.

132 So just as the Europeans are clue'ing up that their shit don't work, and money really doesn't grow on trees, the US is dumbing down and looking to follow their failed example. The New Dark Ages are upon us.

Where is it written that just because the Socialist in Chief and his minions want to go down that path that the rest of us have to follow?  It is not chiseled in stone that we must follow them to Eurosocialist utopia, is it?  At some point, don't we have to wish them luck and go our own way? 

just askin.  This "we're screwed" stuff is getting very old.  A bad political union is no different than a bad marriage or a bad business partnership.  None are suicide pacts.

133 Where is it written that just because the Socialist in Chief and his minions want to go down that path that the rest of us have to follow?

Obama is just the latest incarnation Louis.  This country took that fork in the road back in the 1930's. 

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Socialism is nothing but a Ponzi scheme.

Welcome to the real world suckers.

135 Everything you need to know about Communist Obama here: http://www.commieblaster.com

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So cue the argument for more immigration by illiterate Africans and welfare-sucking Pakistanis in 3,2,1...

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"All we need are a bunch of Huns and Vandals sacking the joint to make it complete."

Or zombies.

138

"All we need are a bunch of Huns and Vandals sacking the joint to make it complete."

 

Who needs those guys? They're pikers compared to Islam.

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