May 20, 2010
— Maetenloch If you haven't heard by now, today is Everybody Draw Mohammed Day, an event inspired by the recent death threats against "South Park" creators Trey Parker and Matt Stone. Basically the idea is that if enough people display images of Mohammed, it becomes impossible to make it a social taboo backed by violence as Muslim activists have been trying to do. And if pictures of Mohammed are everywhere, there's no longer so much payoff in intimidating a single blogger or cartoonist.
Now I'm not particularly in favor of all the Mohammed caricatures being posted for similar reasons as S. Weasel's - mostly because I'm not into gratuitously insulting people's religious beliefs. But this is about a larger cultural principle - whether we allow actual free speech. Or just pretend free speech that's really subject to the veto of violence and intimidation. And whether Islam is to be a privileged religion over all others.
So here with Ace's approval is a drawing of Mohammed taken from Zombie's Mohammed Image Archive:

It's an illustration showing Mohammed preaching his final sermon on Mount Ararat near Mecca and was painted by Muslim scholar al-Biruni in 1489. But you say how could this be? Isn't there an Islamic prohibition against any depiction of Mohammed?
Well it turns out that the tradition of not picturing Mohammed is a relatively recent one - one that really only appeared in the 1600's. So for almost a thousand years after Mohammed's death, it was acceptable and even common in some Muslim regions to draw him in full form. During the Caliphate period there were even coins minted with his face on them. Even the burqa which has become a symbol of traditional Islam didn't appear until after Mohammed died and was until recently confined mostly to women in the harems of the aristocracy.
A lot of behavior that radical Islamists insist on today in western countries are actually traditions that got added to Islam long after it was founded. So to make a stretched analogy - it's as if the Amish somehow got control of Christianity and decided that the fashions and practices of the 1700's define how a true Christian must act today. And threaten to kill you if you dare disagree.
Update: Here's a site with pictures of the graduating classes of Cairo University in Egypt. Note that the head-covering-only hijab is far more common in the 2004 picture than it is in the 1959 picture. If it's such a long-standing Muslim tradition, why was it less common 50 years ago? And here's Mark Steyn's take on the pictures.
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Posted by: maddogg at May 20, 2010 03:43 PM (4zspv)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at May 20, 2010 03:44 PM (mHQ7T)
Posted by: Druid at May 20, 2010 03:45 PM (Oe01r)
Whoever would have guessed?
Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at May 20, 2010 03:46 PM (Sl6p1)
Posted by: Bugler at May 20, 2010 03:48 PM (VXBR1)
Posted by: nevergiveup at May 20, 2010 03:51 PM (0GFWk)
It didn't appear outside Muslim theocracies until 2005. It can eat a dick. Mohammed's, if it prefers.
Posted by: oblig. at May 20, 2010 03:57 PM (x7Ao8)
15- Now, that isnt nice to say.
It isnt Mos fault that these idiots are twisting his words around. Now is it?
Posted by: Say What? at May 20, 2010 04:02 PM (vwh8M)
Posted by: Al at May 20, 2010 04:02 PM (MzQOZ)
Posted by: nevergiveup at May 20, 2010 04:03 PM (0GFWk)
Not that man worship is new behavior for them...
Posted by: wooga at May 20, 2010 04:03 PM (2p0e3)
I sculpted mohamed after breakfast and I forgot to mark the checklist on the door. I hope my roommate didn't notice....
Posted by: nine coconuts at May 20, 2010 04:04 PM (DHNp4)
Posted by: nevergiveup at May 20, 2010 04:04 PM (0GFWk)
Blogmocracy has some good Mo pics up. Im confused though. Is this the overnight thread Maet? heh.
:-)>>>>
Posted by: Delta Smelt at May 20, 2010 04:08 PM (8OTio)
Posted by: Fish at May 20, 2010 07:49 PM (M5t+h)
Float like a butterfly, sting like a SCIMITAR ON THE BACK OF YOUR NECK, YOU SCUM-SUCKING, CROSS-WORSHIPPING, INFIDEL DOG!
Posted by: Enlightened, Moderate Muslim at May 20, 2010 04:09 PM (1fanL)
#32
Ok that made me laugh. I might do a better job if I was to receive some government funding though...
Posted by: Delta Smelt at May 20, 2010 04:11 PM (8OTio)
And the irony about that is that it was the Muslim expansion out of the Iberian Peninsula that caused the Crusades.
Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at May 20, 2010 04:11 PM (c0A3e)
Their basic texts are full of contradictions, and in a more intelligent time they interpreted them differently. Unfortunately the entire culture is apparently getting dumber and more extreme.
Islam is a real life Idiocracy but instead of 'batin they are prayin.
Posted by: nine coconuts at May 20, 2010 04:12 PM (DHNp4)
Iowntheworld has some funny pix. I would prefer a performance art piece. One big ass atomic warhead dropped on the black cube, titled "The prophet sneezes".
Posted by: Atomic Roach at May 20, 2010 04:12 PM (Oxen1)
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at May 20, 2010 08:09 PM (9YYmo)
Looks like a gopher to me.
Posted by: stuiec at May 20, 2010 04:13 PM (W+GYq)
Posted by: Say What? at May 20, 2010 07:49 PM (vwh8M)
Why does he have a flower growing out of his turban?
Posted by: stuiec at May 20, 2010 04:13 PM (W+GYq)
Posted by: Garbonzo the Garrulous at May 20, 2010 08:14 PM (zgd5N)
Who are you calling flaming, honey?
Posted by: :-)>>>> at May 20, 2010 04:15 PM (1fanL)
Posted by: Comrade Arthur at May 20, 2010 04:16 PM (tsb7q)
That rat can only mean that Obama is really Nosferatu. Now the birth certificate and Connecticut SS number begin to make sense...
Posted by: Atomic Roach at May 20, 2010 04:16 PM (Oxen1)
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at May 20, 2010 04:16 PM (9YYmo)
I'm not into gratuitously insulting people's religious beliefs
You're being too PC, Maet. This isn't a religion. It's a political ideology masquerading as a religion. A "holy book" that advises you to kill those who don't believe what you do ain't so holy.
Posted by: RushBabe at May 20, 2010 04:17 PM (W8m8i)
Posted by: sTevo at May 20, 2010 04:17 PM (zIUsq)
You're being too PC, Maet. This isn't a religion. It's a political ideology masquerading as a religion. A "holy book" that advises you to kill those who don't believe what you do ain't so holy.
Posted by: RushBabe at May 20, 2010 08:17 PM (W8m8i)
I disagree. In my religion I get to bang all the wimmins I want. I expect you and everyone else to honor my religion.
Posted by: FUBAR at May 20, 2010 04:19 PM (1fanL)
Why I Won't Be Participating in 'Draw M******* Day' (PBUH)
Posted by: iowahawk at May 20, 2010 04:19 PM (veL4N)
Posted by: Delta Smelt at May 20, 2010 04:19 PM (8OTio)
Posted by: Pike Place Pete at May 20, 2010 04:20 PM (MzTRc)
Anyone who spent time at Little Green Footballs should recognize this pathology.
Posted by: stuiec at May 20, 2010 04:20 PM (W+GYq)
I wiped my ass with a page from the Koran once. In a lot of Arab countries the hotels have Korans in the bedside table, like they do with bibles here. So this one time I'm staying at a hotel in Jordan, and something (I don't remember what it was) had me pissed off and disgusted with muslims, so I tore a page out of the room's Koran and used it for toilet paper. I then stuck my little "portrait of Mohammad" back in the Koran.
I was totally paranoid after I checked out that sombody would find my "work" before I got out of the country, and they would arrest me at the airport and throw me in some special prison for defiant kufar.
Posted by: gebrauchshund at May 20, 2010 04:20 PM (d7k0J)
Why I Won't Be Participating in 'Draw M******* Day' (PBUH)
Posted by: iowahawk
at May 20, 2010 08:19 PM (veL4N)
Seth's blood is on your hands. Can I shake your hand?
Posted by: FUBAR at May 20, 2010 04:22 PM (1fanL)
Anyone who spent time at Little Green Footballs..
I plead guilty to this. Much to my embarrassment. I'm less ashamed of some of my drunken high school antics than I am of ever giving that mentally ill buffoon any traffic.
Posted by: Delta Smelt at May 20, 2010 04:23 PM (8OTio)
Posted by: Ohio Dan at May 20, 2010 04:23 PM (rurh0)
Posted by: Weirdo at May 20, 2010 04:25 PM (XBdMr)
@Iowahawk
Off topic...Thank you for T. Coddington Van Voorhees VII and John Evans Evans John. Dats some funny stuff right there. The former has been a sock goldmine for me.
Posted by: Delta Smelt at May 20, 2010 04:25 PM (8OTio)
One of the few times I agreed with CAIR. I'd like it off the wall.
Posted by: Upscale Community Organizing Thought Criminal at May 20, 2010
08:24 PM (IhHdM)
Is it up there to symbolize how tough we are on child molesterers?
Posted by: FUBAR at May 20, 2010 04:25 PM (1fanL)
Posted by: your winnings, sir at May 20, 2010 04:26 PM (4WbTI)
And they've got demographics on their side.
Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at May 20, 2010 04:26 PM (c0A3e)
Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at May 20, 2010
08:26 PM (c0A3e)
Yeah. It's time to spread abortion to the Dar al Islam.
Posted by: FUBAR at May 20, 2010 04:27 PM (1fanL)
Posted by: iowahawk
Ululululululuululululuul!
Posted by: Garbonzo the Garrulous at May 20, 2010 04:27 PM (zgd5N)
":-)>>>>"
What in the flaming hell. It isn't "Draw ZZ Top Day!"
Posted by: Al
Every goat crazy 'bout a sheet dressed imam...
Posted by: Billy "Mohamhead" Gibbons at May 20, 2010 04:28 PM (Ssxpy)
I like how the ban on depicting Mohammed was originally intended as a means of preventing idolatry. What's happened is the Islamotards have elevated Mohammad to divine status, and effectively worship a man. That's true "irony" right?
Not that man worship is new behavior for them...
Posted by: wooga
I thought they worshiped that moon-rock stuffed into the silver urinal on the corner of that big black cube thingy.
Posted by: Druid at May 20, 2010 04:29 PM (Oe01r)
They breed like Catholics are supposed to.
Posted by: Weirdo at May 20, 2010 08:28 PM (XBdMr)
I blame Mohammed Ali.
Posted by: FUBAR at May 20, 2010 04:30 PM (1fanL)
My peeps are keepin up with the Muslims....
(Just another reason to vote for me in 2012. Better get onboard morons.)
Posted by: Mittens Romney at May 20, 2010 04:31 PM (8OTio)
That rates as about the funniest thing you've ever written, Mr. Burge.
For anyone who doesn't get the joke, here's the sad reality:
Seth MacFarlane’s recent comment, “I think any combination of angry plus deity equals danger… If it were me and I was in this situation, , ‘OK, is this worth being shot? Is this the funniest joke ever written?”
Fortunately for Seth MacFarlane, his testicular deficiency will protect him from ever putting himself in that situation.
Posted by: stuiec at May 20, 2010 04:32 PM (W+GYq)
Posted by: Darrel Harb at May 20, 2010 08:31 PM (SwkdU)
You dare take the Crescent of Islam and put it on the same bumper sticker as the symbols of infidels, polytheists and atheists? I KEEL YOU!!!
Posted by: My other brother, Darrel Islam at May 20, 2010 04:34 PM (W+GYq)
No one expects the Islamic Inquisition! What? You do?
Well then, never mind.
Posted by: the turban boys at May 20, 2010 04:34 PM (4WbTI)
Posted by: NAMBLA at May 20, 2010 04:37 PM (8OTio)
Posted by: Say What? at May 20, 2010 08:14 PM (vwh8M)
Oh. I thought you were trying to make Mohammed into an Emmet Kelly-style clown or something. My error.
Posted by: My other brother, Darrel Islam at May 20, 2010 04:39 PM (W+GYq)
Posted by: Comrade Arthur at May 20, 2010 08:16 PM (tsb7q)
What we see now is a Restoration, an attempt by fundamentalists to restore the religion to its original state of militancy and drive for conquest.
Posted by: My other brother, Darrel Islam at May 20, 2010 04:42 PM (W+GYq)
Right, which the Islamists see as the solution to reverse their decline.
Posted by: Palin Steele (formely the biggest emo git on AoSHQ) at May 20, 2010 04:45 PM (c0A3e)
* not
Posted by: Upscale Community Organizing Thought Criminal at May 20, 2010
08:42 PM (IhHdM)
What actually happened was ten thousand times better. Mr. Chucky noticed that LGF had been quietly de-linked from Iowahawk's blogroll -- no fanfare, no big "I can't stand Charles Johnson" announcement -- and he whined and wailed about the "ingratitude" and how "LGF made Iowahawk" and other such solipsistic shit. Which tells you that (a) Chucky believes the sun rises and sets out of his own backside and (b) he only values "friends" to the extent that they drive traffic to his blog and thus money to his meager coffers.
Posted by: stuiec at May 20, 2010 04:53 PM (W+GYq)
Posted by: anonymous irishman at May 20, 2010 05:09 PM (qwfnx)
Posted by: billdo at May 20, 2010 05:12 PM (E76Bm)
One of the few times I agreed with CAIR. I'd like it off the wall.
Posted by: Upscale Community Organizing Thought Criminal at May 20, 2010
08:24 PM (IhHdM)
The courtroom friezes are a historical series collectively known as "the lawgivers." The south wall is the ancient world: Menes, Hammurabi, Moses, Solomon, Lycurgus, Solon, Draco, Confucius and Augustus. The north wall is medieval and modern: Justinian, Mohammed, Charlemagne, King John, Louis IX, Grotius, Blackstone, John Marshall and Napoleon. I wouldn't say putting them up there in that context necessarily suggests they were all entirely praiseworthy, just that they played some major part in shaping the law for some parts of the world.
Posted by: Dave J. at May 20, 2010 05:23 PM (DCQ0q)
I really don't want to get into a whole debate about it with my progressive friends, but I would like to acknowledge it.
Posted by: Y-not at May 20, 2010 05:48 PM (Kn9r7)
Posted by: ipw533 at May 20, 2010 05:51 PM (vGGOe)
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at May 20, 2010 08:09 PM (9YYmo)
Another Obama voter
Posted by: robtr at May 20, 2010 05:55 PM (fwSHf)
The whole controvery was NEVER about drawing or not drawing Mohammad per se, Ace. Muslims declared and acted on the belief that Islamic law is universal, that THEIR beliefs that no one should draw Mohammand meant they had a right to force NON-MUSLUMS worldwide to obey their beliefs on pain of death if they refuse. THAT was and is the problem and THAT is why this is a good way to protest. Not that I expect any dems or libs to understand this.
Of course, I am not surprised in the least that Facebook took the site down. After all, I am sure they don't want a Muslum car bomb outside their corporate headquarters. Simple protests like this will not work, not until we convince Muslims that violence agianst us will mean violence against them.
Posted by: BattleofthePyramids at May 20, 2010 06:51 PM (6Ld+J)
you deliberately want to hurt our sentiments on the name of " freedom of speech"
well what will you feel if i disrespect your parents on the name of " freedom of speech".
YOU illitrate people wiil never come to know others feeling and will always do such satanic acts to spread evil and violence. surely you will come to know how wrong you are...
Posted by: saad at May 20, 2010 06:52 PM (92CAM)
Posted by: BattleofthePyramids at May 20, 2010 08:17 PM (6Ld+J)
Maet, you understand Islam a lot better than you understand the Amish. Big fucking joke and all that, but you should be ashamed of yourself.
Really conservative desert Arabs through the early 20th century believed it to be a heresy to produce an image of any living thing, and that idolaters would be called on in the day of judgement to breathe life into their creations, on pain of damnation. This made life difficult for portrait photographers. TE Lawrence wrote extensively of this superstition.
The highly filigreed decoration of Islamic art (you know, the inspiration for the design of the World Trade Center) was due to this teaching. In the Arab part of the caliphate, you would not find a painting or sculpture of a person, animal, or plant--just geometric patterns and graceful lines, based on calligraphy.
I have asked several modern Musselmen about this, and they claim never to have heard of it. Sometime in the 1900's, it went away. But if these other concepts were forgotten and revived, that one can be as well.
Posted by: comatus at May 20, 2010 08:33 PM (/VEEI)
Posted by: Ali Ben Bubu at May 20, 2010 10:15 PM (zfRju)
=O-/---/-
That's the best I can do. Will I be jihaded for giving him one short arm, one short twisted leg, and only one foot?Posted by: Michelangeloni at May 21, 2010 05:03 AM (gbCNS)
Posted by: Bugler at May 21, 2010 06:16 AM (VXBR1)
Anti-Semitic
Anti-Christianity
Anti-Freedom
Anti-Womens Rights
Anti-Democracy
Militaristic
Messenger of God
Leadership Principle
Posted by: Islam = Nazism at May 22, 2010 05:48 AM (v6i8w)
What did I find there today? Every single post is an attack on the right. Every. One.
Years ago his target was radical Islam. Today it's Christianity and the right.
Years ago all of his commenters were conservatives. I checked a few posts, and today every one is a flaming leftist.
Charles has completed his journey from the light to the dark side.
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