January 23, 2010

Faux-Populist President Still Slamming Supreme Court
— Gabriel Malor

Not content to let Chuck Schumer steal the scene by calling the Supreme Court "un-American", the President devoted his weekly address to the corrupting influence of corporations on elections.

Using terms like "the people's house", Mr. Populism goes on to decry "special interests" and claim that Citizens United will devastate "the public interest." As usual, Democrats are quick to shut down speech.

A hundred years ago, one of the great Republican Presidents, Teddy Roosevelt, fought to limit special interest spending and influence over American political campaigns and warned of the impact of unbridled, corporate spending. His message rings as true as ever today, in this age of mass communications, when the decks are too often stacked against ordinary Americans. And as long as IÂ’m your President, IÂ’ll never stop fighting to make sure that the most powerful voice in Washington belongs to you.

Assuming he is right that the "decks are stacked" against ordinary Americans, the President should be praising Citizens United. Now, instead of lone voices, Americans can band together to advocate for and against policies and politicians. The President is telling his skeery story about "unbridled" corporate spending while ignoring the fact that Citizens United was a group formed specifically to oppose Hillary Clinton in the election. Those people could never have made and distributed their movie unless they could do it together.

As I wrote yesterday, you have a right to speech, you have a right to associate with others, and you don't give up your right to speech when you choose to associate. The Constitution does not give to Congress the power to pick favored speakers and disfavored speakers. In fact, the First Amendment specifically prohibits such anti-democratic laws.

And yet the President protests that Citizens United will make his life more difficult:

That means that any public servant who has the courage to stand up to the special interests and stand up for the American people can find himself or herself under assault come election time.

Did you catch that? "Any public servant", meaning Obama, will have to face opposition come election time. I can understand why that would upset him.

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at 08:03 AM | Comments (135)
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1 Look, I just want to return America to it's rightful and deserved place as a 3rd-world shithole.

Posted by: Barack Obama at January 23, 2010 08:08 AM (554T5)

2 "decks are stacked"

LOL. More proof that The Precedent doesn't have any American sensibilities about him. The guy doesn't even seem to be familiar with normal American idiomatic expressions and popular phrases. I know that remembering that we have 50 states is difficult for the Indonesian imbecile (as he can't count past 7, anyway - "profit and earnings ratios") but it seems pathetically clear that he doesn't understand what a 'stacked deck' really is and how the phrase is used in normal speech.

More kudos to Harvard and Columbia. They turn out some real winners ...

Posted by: progressoverpeace at January 23, 2010 08:09 AM (A46hP)

3
find himself or herself under assault come election time.

Like having photos of their wife and daughters in bikinis blasted all over the internet?

Posted by: Dang Straights at January 23, 2010 08:09 AM (pszc6)

4 That means that any public servant who has the courage to stand up to the special interests and stand up for the American people can find himself or herself under assault come election time.

Isn't that kind of the point of having elections?  If we don't think they are actually standing up for the American people we can get rid of them by having someone else run against them or campaign against them.  That person or group will of course use their own actions against them in political commercials.

Posted by: Deathknyte at January 23, 2010 08:11 AM (tGCj4)

5

Obviously racist.

Posted by: Mark in Spokane at January 23, 2010 08:13 AM (UaVQh)

6 Anything that makes a liberal howl in desperate fury is probably a smart and common-sense solution to a problem.

Posted by: Mord at January 23, 2010 08:14 AM (tTj19)

7 Obama just broke his record for lowest approval rating according to Razz.

Keep fucking that chicken Barry.

Posted by: Darth Nihilus69 at January 23, 2010 08:14 AM (GfYt/)

8

He finds the Constitution to be a nasty impediment to his agenda of destroying the country and re-building it as a corruptocracy.....with him as der Leader.

Posted by: proreason at January 23, 2010 08:15 AM (Rllt+)

9 find himself or herself under assault come election time.

Like having photos of their wife and daughters in bikinis blasted all over the internet?


Or spurious ethics complaints filed by sad Democrat operatives, having your e-mail hacked, or being hung in effigy in West Hollywood?

Posted by: HeatherRadish at January 23, 2010 08:15 AM (OkT2m)

10 Isn't that kind of the point of having elections?  If we don't think they are actually standing up for the American people we can get rid of them by having someone else run against them or campaign against them.  That person or group will of course use their own actions against them in political commercials.

Posted by: Deathknyte at January 23, 2010 12:11 PM (tGCj4)


Not for would-be autocrats. Americans might think that way, but if you grew up in foreign countries, were mentored by America-hating assholes and attended rabidly left-wing universities, you might think differently. Just sayin' ...

Posted by: Josef K. at January 23, 2010 08:17 AM (7+pP9)

11 He's just pissed because this will translate into more attack ads against Dems, himself specifically. I'd bet there are more than a few CEO's that have been bullied by the tag team of Rahm and Barry that are salivating at the chance to burn these two. What Obama is really upset about though is that it further decreases his power to influence big business (read: control) with the "pitchfork" speech bankers got from him in early 2009. Without the bully" factor, Obama is pretty impotent and he knows it. I say throw the whole system wide open with full disclosure on the web. If you don't want your donor published, don't take the money.

Posted by: volfan at January 23, 2010 08:17 AM (Lq6p6)

12 The Precedent is just replaying his Honduras talking points for the US, now. He hates Constitutions. It's a shame that so many were willing to let him off from the clear fact that he is not a natural born citizen (as no dual citizen is a natural born American) and was never Constitutionally eligible to sit in the White House, to begin with.

But ... they were scared of riots in the cities, so this is what we get.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at January 23, 2010 08:18 AM (A46hP)

13 I have come to chew bubblegum and fuck chickens.....and I'm all outta bubblegum.

Posted by: Barack Obama at January 23, 2010 08:19 AM (zxrQh)

14 9 find himself or herself under assault come election time.

Like having photos of their wife and daughters in bikinis blasted all over the internet?


Or spurious ethics complaints filed by sad Democrat operatives, having your e-mail hacked, or being hung in effigy in West Hollywood?

Posted by: HeatherRadish at January 23, 2010 12:15 PM (OkT2m)


Or being criticized by your political opponents for having their sealed divorce records unsealed?

Posted by: Josef K. at January 23, 2010 08:19 AM (7+pP9)

15 Let's see, which of these characteristics are foremost in this decision:

Post Turtle
Anti-Adams
Reverse Jesus

There's a whole lot of WTF in this, a sizable chunk of 'I don't much care what that written thing says,' and only a touch of shoving his sins off on others. So... not so much Reverse Jesus here.

I'm thinking his Anti-Adamsness is most prominent here - he's happier under the rule of men, not laws.

Posted by: Al at January 23, 2010 08:19 AM (0lyUI)

16 It's almost like he wasn't an American or something.

Posted by: TexasJew at January 23, 2010 08:19 AM (dcKUM)

17 Yeah the thing that burns my ass the most is this fuckwad didn't even grow up here. he really is fucking clueless to what America is all about.

Posted by: Berserker at January 23, 2010 08:19 AM (gWHrG)

18

he knows level playing fields will hurt him.

Posted by: trailortrash at January 23, 2010 08:20 AM (2Z+7j)

19 Too bad for Osama Obama. He doesn't get his way -- again -- and now he's reeeeeeealllllllly angry!

That pesky Constitution thing keeps getting in his way.

Take your marbles and go home, you worthless tool. America deserves better than you.

Posted by: Chapeau du Tinfoil at January 23, 2010 08:20 AM (sfZ/A)

20
He's a soccer fan and this is a football nation. 

Posted by: Dang Straights at January 23, 2010 08:21 AM (pszc6)

21 We really need to find a place to put this guy. How much it would cost to buy off Ban Ki Moon?

Posted by: Bugler at January 23, 2010 08:24 AM (YCVBL)

22 17 Yeah the thing that burns my ass the most is this fuckwad didn't even grow up here. he really is fucking clueless to what America is all about.

Posted by: Berserker at January 23, 2010 12:19 PM (gWHrG)


I attended college in the 1970s. I had the misfortune to deal with scads of lefties who thought the way Obama does. I don't really think it is just his early childhood abroad that made him so un-American. After all, plenty of military brats (myself included) either were born abroad or spent their childhoods there and still became good citizens.

I think he was raised to look at America the way he does; like a human time bomb.

Posted by: Josef K. at January 23, 2010 08:24 AM (7+pP9)

23 Rush Limbaugh answers my question about how President Obama, a law professor, could have responded to the Citizens United case the way he did by Ann Althouse

Note that she's a law professor at a university. The Obamassiah was a law lecturer. One of the comments makes the difference very clear.

Ann's got some other great posts about this issue. Check her site out.

You'll have to fix the link manually or click on my name.

Posted by: Looking Glass at January 23, 2010 08:25 AM (pS1b2)

24 But Barry is happy to take the millions in endorsements from groups funded by Soros.  And votes from groups like ACORN, funded by you and me.  Funds  and adulation from the news media and the entertainment industry.

This guy is such a whiner its pitiful. 

Posted by: lan sing at January 23, 2010 08:25 AM (cEOZd)

25 We really need to find a place to put this guy. How much it would cost to buy off Ban Ki Moon? put his silly ass in an old space shuttle and fire him into the sun.

All fixed.

Posted by: Berserker at January 23, 2010 08:26 AM (gWHrG)

26 I don't really think it is just his early childhood abroad that made him so un-American. After all, plenty of military brats (myself included) either were born abroad or spent their childhoods there and still became good citizens. Military brats didn't spend their formative years (ages 5 - 10) attending school int he largest muslim in the world, ruled by a dictator, enrolled as a muslim. The Precedent has the sensibilities of the average thrid worlder/Indonesian, as he was raised to be.

I think he was raised to look at America the way he does; like a human time bomb.

Posted by: Josef K. at January 23, 2010 12:24 PM (7+pP9)

He sees himself as the avenging angel of the third world, brought to the US to destroy us. He's a suicide bomber on his run.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at January 23, 2010 08:27 AM (A46hP)

27 I wonder how hard Teh Kendonesian will bang his sippy cup in the SOTU...  might ALMOST be worth watching - with the sound off and the CC on.  I still don't want to hear his voice.

Posted by: FORGER - Racist Czar at January 23, 2010 08:28 AM (o4Xi+)

28 Libtard Definition of Free Speach:   American citizens have the right to think and speak in lockstep with us, or keep your dirty filthy fucking pie hole SHUT!  Oh, and that goes for Corporations as well. 

Posted by: Sparky at January 23, 2010 08:28 AM (r0u40)

29 Posted by: progressoverpeace at January 23, 2010 12:18 PM (A46hP) ----------------------------------------------------- This is still the greatest weapon that Obama and Co. have over us. And that's that it is unfathomable to most that voted for him that he would do things intentionally to harm the Republic or its citizenry. Or that he believes that the Constitution is fundamentally flawed (which he obviously does and has said as much) and in need of "correction". I still think that there is a major "oh shit" moment coming from those that put this guy in power and that Mass was the first inkling that the Messiah really does not walk on water. The guy is on his way down and the faster he falls the uglier he'll get because at that point he has little to lose from being diplomatic. And when that happens the person that his is and his true aims will be obvious to all.

Posted by: volfan at January 23, 2010 08:28 AM (Lq6p6)

30 Now sing with me, everybody!

Been living most our lives
Striving for the worker's paradise
 
Been living most our lives
Striving for the worker's paradise...

Posted by: Barack Obama at January 23, 2010 08:29 AM (554T5)

31 25 We really need to find a place to put this guy. How much it would cost to buy off Ban Ki Moon? put his silly ass in an old space shuttle and fire him into the sun.

All fixed.

Posted by: Berserker at January 23, 2010 12:26 PM (gWHrG)


I think NASA wants about 28 million dollars for a shuttle. Money well spent, if we can raise it. By the way, have you considered starting a newsletter?

Posted by: Josef K. at January 23, 2010 08:29 AM (7+pP9)

32

Woe be unto me that I might hear a point of view that adds to the zillion other points of view that I have to consider. Prez O'one must protect my delicate ears from the taxing burden of being informed. Misinformation is beyond my simple-brained capability to research. Yay Barry. I'm depending on him to keep the crime union bosses well funded to inform me.

 

Posted by: Agnostica at January 23, 2010 08:29 AM (gbCNS)

33 I still think that there is a major "oh shit" moment coming from those that put this guy in power and that Mass was the first inkling that the Messiah really does not walk on water.

Big time. We haven't even scratched the surface of their coming regret, yet.

The guy is on his way down and the faster he falls the uglier he'll get because at that point he has little to lose from being diplomatic. And when that happens the person that his is and his true aims will be obvious to all.

Posted by: volfan at January 23, 2010 12:28 PM (Lq6p6)

The Precedent wants to be taken down, since having the White House at war with the nation is the best way of cringing chaos to this nation and harming us. That's why he was pushing everything so fast and hard. Because he has no respect for our structures or our traditions and wants to destroy them all. He WANTS to break the system.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at January 23, 2010 08:31 AM (A46hP)

34 Ann Althouse is on a roll.

  "I love the way the liberal's willingness to make a completely un-PC attack on a person, when that person is conservative, glares so painfully when it turns out that the target of the attack isn't actually conservative." - Ann Althouse.

Fix the link manually or click my name.

Posted by: Looking Glass at January 23, 2010 08:31 AM (pS1b2)

35 Damn, um, uh, that pesky, um uh, Constitution!

Posted by: Barry O at January 23, 2010 08:32 AM (kJLH9)

36 Funny how he never mentions the "corrupting influence" of labor unions, who were also restricted under McCain-Feingold, and have also now been freed to spend what they want.  Of course, we all also know that Obama took a ton of contributions from corporations and Wall Street, so this is just more populist posturing.

Posted by: Jinpa77 at January 23, 2010 08:34 AM (Ybhxx)

37 This guy spent like a billion dollars on his campaign and gets fellated until he plasters money shots on the faces of the entire MSM on a daily basis and he still has crappy approval numbers one year into the job. I'd worry too if I were him.

Posted by: Abe Froman at January 23, 2010 08:35 AM (fkgyi)

38 I still think that there is a major "oh shit" moment coming from those that put this guy in power and that Mass was the first inkling that the Messiah really does not walk on water. The guy is on his way down and the faster he falls the uglier he'll get because at that point he has little to lose from being diplomatic. And when that happens the person that his is and his true aims will be obvious to all.

Posted by: volfan at January 23, 2010 12:28 PM (Lq6p6)


I keep reading comments by people tied to him about seizing 401(k) and IRA funds and substituting "safer" government bonds. Apparently there's about $3.4 Trillion to be had this way. If, in 2010, the Chinese just stop buying our bonds, or take their purchasing down to a minimal level that sends a clear message to the world, I really think that such a seizure might be implemented. It's such a nightmare scenario I keep telling myself it can't really happen, but then I never thought we'd have a president who made Jimmy Carter look good by comparison.

Posted by: Josef K. at January 23, 2010 08:35 AM (7+pP9)

39 Note that she's a law professor at a university. The Obamassiah was a law lecturer. One of the comments makes the difference very clear. Posted by: Looking Glass at January 23, 2010 12:25 PM (pS1b2) ---------------------------------------------- That's the rub. As a "lecturer" he never published any scholarly works, which is the hallmark or being an academic. Most law profs (at least pre-tenure) are required to publish something every two years or so and most of the good ones keep this going well after tenure is granted. Obama was a "professor" in a very loose sense. Think adjunct for a similar comparison; they're there to fill an open spot but not permanently. Obama's spin that his being a Con Law "prof" somehow elevated his intelligence outside the stratosphere was always amusing to me and probably to most that knew better.

Posted by: volfan at January 23, 2010 08:35 AM (Lq6p6)

40

I'm still curious about what Barney Frank was blathering about the other night.  He was yammering on about the ability of Congress to to regulate corporations, particularly executive salary, and indicated that they could basically add political donations and advertisements to the list.

I thought that SCOTUS was clear on the issue.

Anybody got a different take?

Posted by: The Outlaw in the Heavenly Hall at January 23, 2010 08:36 AM (zxrQh)

41 Damn, 28 million for an old space shuttle. That's really not bad. If I ever won the lottery I would grab one and park it in the yard.

1 used Space shuttle- $28,000,000

Delivery to the house- $1,000,000

 the ability to say to your buddies "Hey lets go do a beer in the space shuttle"


fucking pricless

Posted by: Berserker at January 23, 2010 08:36 AM (gWHrG)

42 Obama is a Marxist.  He is apposed to anything which keeps him from making the US into a banana republic.

Posted by: The Chewbacca Defense at January 23, 2010 08:36 AM (YMZjg)

43 Visa/MC controls were removed so foreign/fake donors could make donations. But that's OK?. asshole!

Posted by: hutch1200 at January 23, 2010 08:37 AM (F0wAq)

44 Supreme Court Rules: Soros Hardest Hit

Posted by: Vashta.Nerada at January 23, 2010 08:37 AM (NYsdu)

45

It's almost as if Obama doesn't realize what 48% of us knew before the election, and what a prety big chunk of the other 52% are starting to realize:

Obama and his pals ARE the "Special Interests" he's always decrying.

Fucking asshole.

Posted by: Sharkman at January 23, 2010 08:43 AM (Zj8fM)

46 Rush Limbaugh answers my question about how President Obama, a law professor, could have responded to the Citizens United case the way he did by Ann Althouse

Note that she's a law professor at a university. The Obamassiah was a law lecturer. One of the comments makes the difference very clear.


Professor, lecturer, whatever ... if you attended law school, no explanation should be necessary.

His knowledge in this area, whatever it may be, says nothing about how he'll speak and act when he has greater political and ideological motivators than some evenhanded review of case law and doesn't make a pretense to neutrality.  What in the name of god has happened in the past two years for anybody to expect maturity and cool-headed analysis in his response?  It's not merely that some people where expecting a professor with this guy, they were expecting a cartoon image of a professor with a tweed jacket and coke bottle glasses out of a 1950s cartoon.

Posted by: AD at January 23, 2010 08:43 AM (yNSM/)

47 We really need to find a place to put this guy. How much it would cost to buy off Ban Ki Moon?


As much as that would make sense for the US, traditionally, the UN doesn't like the idea of the SecGen being a native-born citizen of one of the permanent members of the Security Council.

Wait a minute....

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 23, 2010 08:44 AM (I/MqP)

48

It is certainly amusing to watch The Won attacking corporate interests in the front room, while accepting their money behind closed doors in the backroom!

He had Bill Gates & Warren Buffet, the two richest men in the world, on his side in 2008.  He was the first presidential candidate in history to refuse public financing of his campaign so that he could suck in MORE money than this opponent.  (I rather enjoyed the spectacle of McCain being hoisted by his own petard....)

Rather than truly deal with health care reform, he brought the health care industry into the room to reward them with trillions of dollars if they went along with his plans to destroy health care.

He supported all the bailouts and the TARP and all the rest of the corporate welfare from the US Treasury to big banks and corporations.  Goldman Saks is a lot richer today than it was two years ago. 

The unions donated heavily to Obama and were rewarded handsomely with the destruction of GM and Chrysler.  Union bosses and members got a huge payday, the bondholders were portrayed as greedy slobs and lost everything.

He already has the corporate money in his pocket, that's why he's so ticked off that now all of us are free to band together and support his opposition!

Posted by: Boots at January 23, 2010 08:49 AM (06JTY)

49 Posted by: Josef K. at January 23, 2010 12:35 PM (7+pP9) ------------------------------------------------ This is EXACTLY what people should be afraid of. The real reason that Obama and Congress have exploded the debt levels is that at some point an "emergency" can be declared and the Feds can loot the wealth that the citizenry controls, thus placing millions on the rolls never to vote Republican again for fear of some bureaucrat "losing" their paperwork or coming under scrutiny from the IRS. What this also accomplishes is greater Federal control of private industry as all of the stock holdings that make up the various mutual funds are now in the hands of the Feds. Scary stuff indeed. This just makes it clear that Obama's driving the US to insolvency on purpose in order to perpetuate his own and the Dems power base. People should have listened when he said that we wanted to be the anti-Reagan. He told us everything he planned to before the election, it just couldn't get through because of the media's fawning and McCain's incompetence.

Posted by: volfan at January 23, 2010 08:50 AM (Lq6p6)

50 Obama and the Democrats are beholden to plenty of special interests. See here, for example.  All they want is an open field to run through, removing special interests that oppose them.

Posted by: Giacomo at January 23, 2010 08:51 AM (517kA)

51 How long do you think we hear this new catch-phrase-"I'll never stop fighting for you?"  This guy is not only desperate but politically ignorant and mentally ill. He hits about 10 diagnoses in the DSM-IV right now. He's currently starring as the emperor in the 2010 version of THE EMPEROR HAS NO CLOTHES.  If he's been fighting for us for a year, we certainly can't stand any more of his "fighting."
I predict that he implodes politically and mentally-he knows he can't do the job and that he never could do the job.  He just hoped that things would just fall into place-and could claim whatever that was as his accomplishment and if things went to hell, he would blame Bush.  He will not be able to stand the public display of his incompetence and the hatred and anger it engenders and I'll wager that he does not complete his term. Desperate democrats will lead him by the ears out of the WH (like the Repubs did with Nixon) and he will "officially" bow out for health reasons.  I bet he's up to four packs of cigs a day, a gram of "blow," a half-G of Vodka and that  the "Gardener-in-Chief is tending some tasty weed in the White House plot soon to be discovered by some 5-year old at the Easter Egg Hunt.  Joe Cool is spinning out of control before our eyes.

Posted by: David Spence at January 23, 2010 08:52 AM (lDtRP)

52 Remember Obama, Mr. Constitutional lawyer, has said in the past that this document conferred too many negavite rights to the government.  Negative in this case being, prohibing the government from doing things to citizens for 'their own good.'  So yes he has problems with the Supreme Court actually siding with the Founders.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 23, 2010 08:55 AM (nhVCV)

53 And instead of sending the Congress completed bills and drumming up public support for them, as legislatively successful past presidents like FDR, LBJ, and Reagan did, he just rolls a Christmas tree into the Capitol Rotunda and invites Reid and Pelosi and their vacuum-cleaner committee chairmen to festoon it with their favorite pork baubles. Stealing the Alaska Senate election with the fraudulent prosecution of Senator Stevens, (since retracted), the Minnesota Senate election with the fraudulent recounts against Senator Coleman, and the unchallenging seduction of Senator Specter as he was circling the Republican primary drain in Pennsylvania, to get 60 Democratic senators, enabled the public purchase of party loyalty, the dismissal of sincere moderates like Senator Olympia Snow, (whose furrowed brow is a mortal challenge to Botox), for a bad health care bill that is not a reform. This was not what was thought to be meant by the slogan 'Yes we can!,' is not leadership, and the people, even in Massachusetts, don't like it.

File this under the header of "Restoring America's 'good name'"

Posted by: Neo at January 23, 2010 08:57 AM (tE8FB)

54 Let me explain to you how this works: you see, the corporations finance Team America, and then Team America goes out... and the corporations sit there in their... in their corporation buildings, and... and, and see, theyre all corporation-y... and they make money.

Posted by: Tim Robbins at January 23, 2010 08:57 AM (86Yqr)

55 Anybody got a different take? Posted by: The Outlaw in the Heavenly Hall at January 23, 2010 12:36 PM (zxrQh) ---------------------------------------------------- Congress can pass whatever law they want and it'll stand until someone sues and nullifies it. So, in a technical sense Barney is right, but in a practical sense he's wrong. It's a headache to pass a bill to negate a recent SCOTUS decision only to be smacked down again by the same justices. Very little political upside.

Posted by: volfan at January 23, 2010 08:58 AM (Lq6p6)

56 Why should FoxNews have any more influence than companies like Benn & Jerry's?

Posted by: An attack the Lefties might like at January 23, 2010 09:00 AM (Vo2Ef)

57

#51 Desperate democrats will lead him by the ears out of the WH (like the Repubs did with Nixon) and he will "officially" bow out for health reasons. 

That will never happen in today's world, especially with the current crop of democrat "leadership".  Back in the day, democrats recognized danger to the republic and acted responsibly - Henry Wallace was the sitting Vice-President under Franklin Roosevelt, and in 1944 the democrats took Henry Wallace off the ballot and replaced him with Harry Truman.  It had become clear that Henry Wallace was a commie and needed to go, and it was equally clear the very ill Roosevelt would not live to finish his 4th term in office.

Today's democrat leadership agrees with Obama, so he's not going anywhere.  He might, just might, face opposition in the democrat primary in 2012 if things continue the way they are going, just like Ted 'the swimmer' Kennedy challenged Carter in 1980. 

Republicans need to get their stuff together patiently and plan for 2012.

Posted by: Boots at January 23, 2010 09:02 AM (06JTY)

58 Well, that's rich. The same half-man who said he admires a former President who "fought to limit special interest spending and influence over American political campaigns and warned of the impact of unbridled, corporate spending," is also the person who: 1. Promised up and down and eleventy hundred times, on The Honor Of His Very Soul, that he would never rely upon private campaign funding running for Lord God Pezzydent 2. Promised to accept public financing for his Pezzydential run if his opponent did the same 3. Broke that promise with the incomprehensible excuse that "the public system is broken" when everyone, even his supporters, understood he became a hypocrite as soon as he discovered he could stuff his pants with far more cash by rejecting public campaign finance 4. Ran a website for donations that deliberately ignored FEC regulations on identifying donors, and his site did not even bother to check credit card numbers to see if foreign donors were buying him off The jug-eared narcissistic hypocrite in the Oval Office has a singular gift for one thing. Pig-headed, bald-faced deceit. He would pee in your mouth and say it's raining Chardonnay.

Posted by: George Orwell at January 23, 2010 09:02 AM (AZGON)

59 He would pee in your mouth and say it's raining Chardonnay. Posted by: George Orwell at January 23, 2010 01:02 PM (AZGON) MMMMFFFFFFUUUUPPP!!!!!!! *COUGH! COUGH!* GAG!!!

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 23, 2010 09:06 AM (QECjC)

60 Quit using the term professor for Obama. He is anything but comment by kentuckyliz

  “What amuses me is the un-called-out conflagration of the term lecturer as if it meant professor.

  A lecturer is not on the tenure track, not a permanent hire, is not expected to do research or publishing, and does not supervise graduate student research or even advise students. They usually teach lower level survey courses.

  A lecturer does not have academic rank and will never be peer-reviewed in the process towards tenure.

  Quit using the term professor for Obama. He is anything but.

  He helped UChi with their affirmative action statistics, borrowed some prestige for his halo, but didnÂ’t have any long-term serious responsibilities or peer review.

  University version of Michelle ObamaÂ’s hospital job.

  Perfect affirmative action couple.

  I am a full professor and went through the whole process. My system has annual review regardless of rank, even after tenure and full professor. In the literature thatÂ’s called post-tenure review. ItÂ’s a good thing.

  Adjuncts (=lecturers) donÂ’t get that review.
” wrote kentuckyliz.


Professors have to reach tenure after a certain number of years. That means "publish or perish." It means being productive.

Obama stood in front of a bunch of kids and scribbled on a chalkboard. That's all.

Posted by: Looking Glass at January 23, 2010 09:07 AM (pS1b2)

61 #48 +1000

Posted by: George Orwell at January 23, 2010 09:08 AM (AZGON)

62 If this guy is a populist my hound dog is the bastard puppy of Huey Long and Jim Hightower .

Posted by: awkward davies at January 23, 2010 09:08 AM (wb68R)

63

Anyone who wants to read a prior, closely related case involving a state law that provided criminal sanctions against a corporation attempting to influence voters through advertising, should read this 1978 decision:

http://tinyurl.com/yj4nfww

The "free speech" arguments are virtually identical.

The holding, in part:

(b) The asserted justifications for the challenged statute cannot survive the exacting scrutiny required when the legislative prohibition is directed at speech itself and speech on a public issue. This statute cannot be justified by the State's asserted interest in sustaining the active role of the individual citizen in the electoral process and preventing diminution of his confidence in government. Even if it were permissible to silence one segment of society upon a sufficient showing of imminent danger, there has been no showing that the relative voice of corporations has been overwhelming or even significant in influencing referenda in Massachusetts, or that there has been any threat to the confidence of the citizenry in government. And the risk of corruption perceived in this Court's decisions involving candidate elections is not present in a popular vote on a public issue. Nor can the statute be justified on the asserted ground that it protects the rights of shareholders whose views differ from those expressed by management on behalf of the corporation. The statute is both underinclusive and overinclusive in serving this purpose, and therefore could not be sustained even if the purpose itself were deemed compelling. Pp. 788-795.

 

Posted by: effinayright at January 23, 2010 09:08 AM (lQRmV)

64 Obama is a fatally flawed man from his childhood and abandonment issues.  Do not be too surprised when he has a very public blow up that makes all Americans consider his mental stability and the fact he has the 'football'.

Posted by: jukin at January 23, 2010 09:09 AM (vkkNZ)

65 Let me explain to you how this works: you see, the corporations finance Tea Partiers, and then the Tea Partier goes out... and the corporations sit there in their... in their corporation buildings, and... and, and see, they're all corporation-y... and they make money.

America, F Yeah!

Posted by: Barack Hussein at January 23, 2010 09:11 AM (z2I+U)

66 I rather expect more and more of his public appearances, before a live audience (not a studio interview) will become littered with words like "Bejeezus" and "wee-wee'd." He'll more often drop the g at the ends of words like "spending" and "lying." He'll start using more folksy stories, where he gets a letter from some girl who eats mustard sandwiches and the toxic waste dump next door throws cigarette butts over her fence into her sand box and corporate fat cats won't do their part with the mop, which is a mop of greed cleaning a world in need and he's never worked so hard while for eight years they waterboarded his Labrador Portugese bald cat and ...splort... Barry's head explodes. It has no perceptible effect on his job performance.

Posted by: George Orwell at January 23, 2010 09:18 AM (AZGON)

67 I hate all people who don't think like me.

Posted by: Tumescent Republican at January 23, 2010 09:28 AM (jBU7p)

68 What's the matter pussy barry, sad that the unions aren't going to the only ones pouring money into campaigns?

Posted by: Jack Burton at January 23, 2010 09:30 AM (YxJoH)

69

That means that any public servant elitist who has the courage to stand up to for the special interests and stand up for to the American people can find himself or herself under assault come election time.

Fixed. 

Posted by: Stillwater at January 23, 2010 09:38 AM (qUdDE)

70 The knuckleheads are "populists" who defend the first amendment rights of abstract legal entities to speak.

Good job, knuckleheads.



Excellent point, fishboy. I propose that we immediately prohibit political speech and political financing from labor unions. After all, are they not "abstract legal entities"?

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 23, 2010 09:40 AM (I/MqP)

71 Labor unions should be abolished for being organized crime.

Posted by: Rodent Freikorps at January 23, 2010 09:44 AM (dQdrY)

72 And Amnesty International, Greenpeace, Sierra Club, WWF, - they all clearly need to STFU also.

Still mind-blowing that they can't connect to anything they might be gaining here.

Posted by: Al at January 23, 2010 09:46 AM (0lyUI)

73 I'm a member of the Gloryhole Union.

Posted by: Tumescent Republican at January 23, 2010 09:50 AM (jBU7p)

74
We have a president in favor of banning books.  Great.

Posted by: Dang at January 23, 2010 09:52 AM (UA4gE)

75

But he organized ppl, not corpoations! He's a "community organizer". The Little ppl elected him! Dumbass haters. He doesn't care about money, he's got "oratory skillz"!

Rham, and Abe are the bagmen!

Posted by: hutch1200 at January 23, 2010 09:53 AM (F0wAq)

76 The irony's too frickin thick.  This sh*t head said he wasn't aware of the biggest mass movement since the Vietnam war, the Teaparty movement.  HE IGNORED US.  Now, he's worried the folks who own him, folks like Soros, will have too much power with this ruling?  Rich.

Posted by: GregInSeattle at January 23, 2010 09:53 AM (B5cM9)

77
Gee.  I'm middle class.  Never been in a union.  There's never been a union presence in my industry.  Must be a mistake in my carrier choice somewhere.

Posted by: Dang at January 23, 2010 09:54 AM (UA4gE)

78 I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night .
What a nightmare that was .
Fuck off erg.

Posted by: awkward davies at January 23, 2010 09:55 AM (wb68R)

79
"Note that she's a law professor at a university. The Obamassiah was a law lecturer. One of the comments makes the difference very clear."

Glass, it's technically correct that he was a lecturer, not a professor. However, the University of Chicago offered him tenure, and he turned them down so he could run for the Illinois legislature. So, while he wasn't a professor, he could have been one had he chosen to do so.

Now, the U of C offered Obama tenure despite the fact that he published nothing in his field. I can can't think of another person in his field, or any other for that matter, about whom that could be said. Go figure ...

Posted by: Brown Line at January 23, 2010 09:58 AM (zUhcR)

80 What about his "stash"?

Posted by: hutch1200 at January 23, 2010 09:58 AM (F0wAq)

81

 Young knuckleheads hate unions because Daddy told them so.

I don't need anyone to help me hate communist sympathizers.

Posted by: Rodent Freikorps at January 23, 2010 09:59 AM (dQdrY)

82 Oh, Lord, who kicked over the roach motel? Another lib troll trying desperately to salvage his pride after reality kicked him in the nuts this week?

On other topics- Brown Line, one would have to figure that some people called in favors for him and that he had some political connections prior to his hiring... seems a logical explanation.

Posted by: tmi3rd at January 23, 2010 10:00 AM (ZNj7+)

83 Just imagine a typical angry lefty who punctuates every we've-heard-it-before talking point with "knuckleheads".

Posted by: Tumescent Republican at January 23, 2010 10:00 AM (jBU7p)

84 67 The knuckleheads are "populists" who defend the first amendment rights of abstract legal entities to speak.

Good job, knuckleheads.
Posted by: Tumescent Republican

Excellent job, peckerneck - do individuals have the freedom of speech, to assemble, and maybe even petition the Government? - only if they don't register the assembly.

Posted by: Druid at January 23, 2010 10:01 AM (Gct7d)

85 Yeah, I love 90% of my, non-optional, union dues going to donks. I have to work overtime to donate to "tea-baggers". Keep calling me names, that are too vulgar to explain to my kids.    En Fuego! (He's busy, I'm just helpin' out a bwudda) 

Posted by: hutch1200 at January 23, 2010 10:01 AM (F0wAq)

86 Okay, I get it... this is drive-by shit that doesn't want any engagement.

Posted by: tmi3rd at January 23, 2010 10:02 AM (ZNj7+)

87
81

 Young knuckleheads hate unions because Daddy told them so.

I don't need anyone to help me hate communist sympathizers.

Posted by: Rodent Freikorps


Or thugs.

Or organized criminals in the mafia.

Or groups of pussies too scared to man up and ask their boss for a raise in person.

Or fat-ass lazy slobs who believe its ethical to get threaten and bully their employer to pay them for not working.


Posted by: Dang at January 23, 2010 10:04 AM (UA4gE)

88  Gee.  you're middle class.  Never been in a union.

Ah, the indomitable core of knucklehead logic: the exception is always the rule.

But, I also fuck and murder little boys. I guess you all dknew that.

That'll be enough, TR... if you've got an argument to make, make it, but otherwise, your comments will continue to be sanitized.
Trollbuster #26

Posted by: Tumescent Republican at January 23, 2010 10:04 AM (jBU7p)

89 Someone is going to make a lot of money with a bumper sticker that says "Fuck" that will fit nicely next to the Obama sticker already on the car.

Posted by: VELVET AMBITION at January 23, 2010 10:07 AM (BcQbL)

90 Fuck you,  little shit.  How old are you?  19?  20 tops.  You are a child.  I can tell by your bullshit.

Posted by: Dang at January 23, 2010 10:07 AM (UA4gE)

91 How many times do I have to tell you, I'm a bald midget colon cleanser with no teeth?

Posted by: Tumescent Republican at January 23, 2010 10:10 AM (jBU7p)

92

88  Gee.  I'm middle class.  Never been in a union.

Ah, the indomitable core of knucklehead dick-head logic: the truth is whatever I say it is.  It doesn't matter that only a small portion of the workforce is unionized - unions make teh middle classes!

But, you I also fuck and murder my plastic "girl-friend" little boys.

FIFY, ergie.  Now fuck off.

Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at January 23, 2010 10:11 AM (9hSKh)

93 goddamn erg , you are one sick puppy .
You should hook up with Kay in Maine.
It'd be like Sid and Nancy only with more stupid ,, and macbooks.

Posted by: awkward davies at January 23, 2010 10:11 AM (wb68R)

94
I think someone had a very bad week.  So sad.  So.  Very.  Sad.

Little playhouse starting to fall down?  Your favorite super-hero not being allowed to be so super after all?  Awww.  So absolutely very,  very... sad.

(tilts head to the side,  sticks bottom lip out and sniffs)

Posted by: Dang at January 23, 2010 10:14 AM (UA4gE)

95 It's come to this. Leftard bootlickers squealing like weasels in a woodchipper. Why? Because their side lost. The side which literally argued, before the Supreme Court, that books should be banned if they expressed a political preference close to an election. You cretins aren't even worthy of Godwin's Law. As fascists, you exhibit a rather petulant whine that would get its ass kicked in an beer hall putsch. To quote Barry the Blowhard: "We won!"

Posted by: George Orwell at January 23, 2010 10:19 AM (AZGON)

96 Think he said something about teabagging his mother, I dunno. Still, as long as no real argument is made, the same will continue.

Posted by: Tumescent Republican at January 23, 2010 10:20 AM (jBU7p)

97 It's time for Americans to realize that governing is hard work, and that a president can't just wave a magic wand and fix everything.

Posted by: Ellie Light at January 23, 2010 10:23 AM (gJL6J)

98 Where's my fucking unicorn erg? asshole.

Posted by: hutch1200 at January 23, 2010 10:24 AM (F0wAq)

99 So little "I Won" is afraid of getting challenged during election time.  Imagine that.

Posted by: soulpile at January 23, 2010 10:25 AM (afWhQ)

100 Tumescent Republican ....go get me a fuckin' juicebox! Now!

Posted by: hutch1200 at January 23, 2010 10:26 AM (F0wAq)

101 "Let me be clear, err, as I've stated before, uhm..Presidentin' is harderer than I, and the US, figgered" 

Posted by: barry1200 at January 23, 2010 10:28 AM (F0wAq)

102 Well, the court finally got one right, and ignored precedent to do so.  Now, fix Kelo.

Posted by: MarkD at January 23, 2010 10:35 AM (nur8S)

103
If I get angry at a troll on a blog,  does Scott Brown not get seated where Ted Kennedy used to sit in the Senate?

Does corrupt TSA nominee Errol Southers get confirmed,  instead of dropping out?

Does Air America stay on the air?

Does the Supreme Court rule that it is constitutional for the government to ban books?


No.  None of that would happen.  Would it?  Didn't think so.  You didn't think so,  did you?  Because if you did,  that would be... pathetic.  One can not undo what has been done.  Mmm.  So cozy.  Peaceful.  Content.  Yes,  even a bit giddy!  I think I'll take the family out to dinner and dessert.  Yum.

Posted by: Dang at January 23, 2010 10:37 AM (UA4gE)

104 Glass, it's technically correct that he was a lecturer, not a professor. However, the University of Chicago offered him tenure, and he turned them down so he could run for the Illinois legislature. So, while he wasn't a professor, he could have been one had he chosen to do so.

They didn't.  Richard Epstein said in an interview earlier this year that that's bull.

He did say they would have been willing to offer him a "tenure track" position, which makes this half-right in that he could have obtained some sort of professor position, but he still would have had to work for tenure, which Epstein noted wasn't warranted by anything he had done so far.

Posted by: AD at January 23, 2010 10:39 AM (yNSM/)

105 Schumer knows all about un-American.  He embodies it.  It's bad enough NY has him, but our other "Senator" is his better looking, zombie clone.

Posted by: MarkD at January 23, 2010 10:40 AM (nur8S)

106 Oh, and fuck Chuck, Shumer that is.

Posted by: VELVET AMBITION at January 23, 2010 10:42 AM (BcQbL)

107 hmm... so basically what he is saying is that any citizens that band together are really just a special interest group? what a fricken moron this guy is.

get over it obambi, the people are standing up to your agenda. we don't like it and we are going to stop you from wrecking the country.

Posted by: mistress overdone at January 23, 2010 10:52 AM (2/oBD)

108 So Barry,will you set the example and give back all the corporate money you and your campaign took including from George Soros and request all his Socialist websites shut down that exist to promote the Dear Leader's outrageous behavior? Frickin hypocrite!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Greg at January 23, 2010 10:53 AM (fHiua)

109 That means that any public servant who has the courage to stand up to the special interests and stand up for the American people can find himself or herself under assault come election time.
What makes him think that they will wait till election time ?  Silly fool.

Posted by: Neo at January 23, 2010 11:18 AM (tE8FB)

110 The First Amendment right to free speech only applies to strippers and rappers, not political speech!

Waaaah!

Posted by: Prepubescent Democrat at January 23, 2010 11:35 AM (gJL6J)

111 Barry is a spoiled brat. The Dims lose the senate election on Tuesday he has a hissy fit and decides to attack the "fat cat" banks. The SC decision comes out and he's going to rant and rave about it. He's ridiculously immature and juvenile. But I'm glad that the pompous ass learned nothing from Tuesday's election. Let him continue down this path to the Dims losing big in November. Although some Dims are not happy and may revolt and seeing a Dim civil war would be very nice.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 23, 2010 11:50 AM (g/a6a)

112 Amazing! This is UNPRECEDENTED !!! Where was OhBambi when the Unions exerted all the influence on elections? Or how about the undisclosed contributions to 527s? I guess when the Democrats had all of the advantages, it was OK, huh?

How stupid does this community organizer think we are?

Posted by: MCPO Airdale at January 23, 2010 11:54 AM (k5nPY)

113

Well, at least now the Dem approach to the '10 and '12 elections has been uncovered -- looks like they're going for the populist appeal route.  It's a load of bs if you ask me, but will the GOP and Libertarians call their bluff?

If el precedente manages to pull it off -- this "man of the people" crap he's deciding to play -- well, that would be pretty damn disheartening to put it mildly.

Posted by: unknown jane at January 23, 2010 11:59 AM (5/yRG)

114 56 Why should FoxNews have any more influence than companies like Benn & Jerry's?

Posted by: An attack the Lefties might like at January 23, 2010 01:00 PM (Vo2Ef)

Good one. 

Something I've been wondering...

How eager are major corporations going to be to exercise this particular manifestation of their right to free speech? 

Lobbying congress seems to have worked pretty well for the mega-corps in our system of crony-capitalism,so far.  It's not too high-profile, either.

I'm not so sure how quick a company like Coca-Cola or a Proctor and Gamble would be to so publicly support one candidate or party over another and risk alienating a good chunk of their consumer base when it seems fairly easy to get them to pull advertising from shows, publications etc. that are deemed "too controversial" as it is.

OTOH, I'd personally kind of like to hear from some companies about certain issues.

As a fer instance, what if Whole Foods had contributed directly to McCain's campaign because of the Democrat's position on health care deform and was explicit about the reasons?  Or, I can envision a firm like Ernst & Young  having something relevant to say to say about Sarbanes or Oxley...

Posted by: Deety at January 23, 2010 12:02 PM (aVzyR)

115 Knucklehayed.

Posted by: Charles Barkley at January 23, 2010 12:24 PM (qyKoF)

116 Special interests like George Soros, Andy Stern's SEIU and ACORN? Yeah, how DARE the Supreme Court uphold the First Amendment. What's wrong Berry, does this level the playing field are just doesn't fit your Socialist/Marxist agenda? You go ahead and 'Declares War on the SCOTUS. But perhaps you should remember the affirmative action light skinned man that talks without a ne@ro dialect who “acted stupidly” with the Cambridge, Mass police? This is the Supreme Court of the United States, reversing their decision forcefully, you are committing TREASON. Your arrogance has force corporate America to Speak loud and clear, and that they WILL!!

Posted by: DJ at January 23, 2010 12:29 PM (58eah)

117 I just don't get this anti-corporation biz.

I work for one of the largest corporations on earth. They pay me well, provide for my health, provide for my family, produce thousands of incredible products we could scarcely imagine living without. In return I give an honest day's work, provide value to my company, and behave with integrity in my professional dealings.

How is this bad?

Posted by: Macaroon at January 23, 2010 12:30 PM (F6+/O)

118 #117 You White?

Posted by: B+rry Ob+mao at January 23, 2010 12:36 PM (fW0LS)

119 "I keep reading comments by people tied to him about seizing 401(k) and IRA funds and substituting "safer" government bonds. Apparently there's about $3.4 Trillion to be had this way. [snip]"

If they try that shit, then it's the last straw for me. No more Mr. Nice Guy. It'll be "torches & pitchforks" time.

Posted by: Macaroon at January 23, 2010 12:49 PM (F6+/O)

120

Why the FUCK don't Conservative Politicians rip into Obama and point out the PHARMA/AARP hundreds of millions in bribes.

AARP and PHARM spent hundreds of millions to support OBAMA'S HEALTH CARE BILL.

 

NO ONE EVER SAW THE MOTHERFUCKING BILL.  How  would these cock bites have any clue if it was good or bad for America?????????????

Someone will BALLS needs to point out the MILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLIONS that LABOR spent for Obama.  What the FUCK are these PUSSIES afraid of??

Posted by: gus at January 23, 2010 12:51 PM (Vqruj)

121

HEY BARRY O'FUCKTARD.

 

IT'S SETTLED LAW NOW DICKSUCKER/

Posted by: gus at January 23, 2010 12:54 PM (Vqruj)

122 So, SEIU, the NEA, ACORN and the tort sharks aren't "special interests"?

Posted by: Lazarus Long at January 23, 2010 01:15 PM (RbtXl)

123 112.
How stupid does this community organizer think we are?

Very, very stupid.  But don't be too hard on him.  He can't help it.  It's a symptom of his NPD.

Posted by: Laura at January 23, 2010 01:29 PM (fuw6p)

124

@ 119 and the OP quoted therein:

This is probably related-- (link toTeresa Ghilarducci's House testimony, Oct. 7, 200

http://tinyurl.com/626azp

of course, she's been spouting this crap for a long time-- (link to Economic Policy Institute, Nov. 20, 2007)

http://tinyurl.com/627ql5

I, too, wish nanny.gov would stop trying to save us all from ourselves!

Posted by: Stillwater at January 23, 2010 01:38 PM (qUdDE)

125 I'm sick and fucking tired of this 'special interests' canard- the 1st Amendment protects EVERYONE'S  right to 'petition the government for redress of grievances', not just those groups in any one President's special favor- DAMN ALL TO PERDITION who would seek to silence and destroy my brothers and sisters, be they on the Right or Left

OUR RIGHT TO THINK AND SPEAK FREELY IS GOD-GIVEN, AND NO MAN AND NO COURT SHALL TAKE IT FROM US

Posted by: Jones6 (the 6 is silent) at January 23, 2010 01:48 PM (JL3qV)

126 Yeah, Yeah, yeah.. Progressives (IE socialists, like the USSR, commie China, and the NAZI party) always bitch about corporation and the greedy companies.  Has anyone noticed that the leading TV network (NBC, MSNBC, and all that rot) and its Pro-Obama leftist news networks are OWNED by GE?  The GE that gets rich with government funding of USAF jet  engines?  Even the M1 Abrams tank engine is made by GE.

They are all anti-military unless THEY get rich from it and it pushes their politics.

Posted by: hous bin pharteen at January 23, 2010 07:04 PM (pU4D7)

127

#12 ...no dual citizen is a natural born American...

I was born in the USA of Canadian parents, and both countries count me as a citizen. How am I not a "natural born American?"

 

Posted by: Muskwa at January 23, 2010 08:04 PM (2sKy5)

128

Hey TR -

I've been both a union employee and a non-union employee.  You know what - I particularly love as a non-union employee that I get to determine how I waste my own wages, and particularly that I do not have to get permission to take a piss or a crap, or (as God as my witness) see my co-workers throw-up at their deisgnated positions.

So FOIYDM

Posted by: Flodigarry at January 23, 2010 09:08 PM (ylB6T)

129 Hey while we are at it why not overturn Roe v Wade and Brown v Board of Ed ? Hells yeah !!!!!

Posted by: sonnyspats at January 24, 2010 07:40 AM (68tQb)

130 The silencing of groups like the NRA is why this law stricken down was brought into play in the first place. Go figure now why his Greatness is so po'd.

Posted by: 88Cid at January 24, 2010 07:56 AM (i254c)

131

And as long as IÂ’m your President, IÂ’ll never stop fighting to make sure that the most powerful voice in Washington belongs to you.

Yeah, Bozo, like you and your cabal in congress are listening to us about health care and cap and trade?  Get over yourself, maroon.  You are just popping your bill  and generally showing your ignorance about our system.  If you had grown up in this country and laid off the cocaine long enough  when you went to school here you would know to keep your mouth shut.  Better presidents than you have had to accept the rullings of the Supreme Court.  The Supreme Court is the last word.  Finis.

 

Posted by: BarbaraS at January 24, 2010 08:53 AM (bbasO)

132 I was born in the USA of Canadian parents, and both countries count me as a citizen. How am I not a "natural born American?"

Posted by: Muskwa at January 24, 2010 12:04 AM (2sKy5)

Because you hold another citizenship. The Founders specifically rejected the idea of American dual citizens, so, obviously, when they created the class of citizens labeled "natural born citizens" that did not include anyone who held citizenship in another country.

When the shit hits the fan in the US and people might want to flee, you would be able to go to Canada while natural born citizens (who, by definition, hold no other citizenships) are stuck in the US. Even without that circumstance, dual citizens have many advantages that natural born citizens don't. That is one of the obvious differences between a natural born citizen who is dependent on the success of this nation and a dual citizen who can pick up and go to his other country any time he wants.

It sounds as if you are taking the idea personally that, somehow, because you hold another citizenship, that you are not as purely "American" as the Founders required for their natural born citizens. It's not personal, just common sense.

Obviously, there has never been a ruling on the actual operative definition of 'natural born citizen', but it is clear that no nation with any sense would ever allow someone to lead the executive branch if that person held citizenship in 37 other countries at the same time. That would just be sheer insanity - and our Founders were well, well aware of this.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at January 24, 2010 09:14 AM (A46hP)

133 I'm utterly shocked.  SHOCKED by his comments.  I mean really, raising one-half BILLION dollars for his own campaign from individuals contributing $20 at a time 'aint easy. 

The next book out on O'doofus (that's his real Irish name; he's the long lost Kennedy bro ya know) should be titled "BHO: How to buy the presidency and return favors, for DUMMIES". 

Bought. Paid for. Payback. Now. 

Things are just starting to get fun.  I flipped over to see what they were saying on MSNBC and CNN about the Brown win (haven't watched them in years) and they're eating their own now.  Love. It.  So many goin' under the bus they're calling it the MONSTER BUS RALLY, D.C. 2010.

Posted by: timajin at January 24, 2010 10:02 AM (j/F2S)

134 Most of you defending 'Citzens United vs. FEC'. Wow. First off it's sad that some fool who spouts troglodytic and propagandistic horse **** should be the catalyst for gutting McCain-Feingold. The only thing that says, it seems, is that the supposedly agendaless, non-activist Supreme Court would've killed those needed reforms regardless, with any flimsy pretext they could find. And this one is pretty flimsy. And to the losers that think they're taking 'their' country back and that this decision benefits you. The people who will benefit from this are laughing their asses off, but particularly at you. And, by and by, they're going to take especial pleasure in, putting it bluntly, boning you, and yeah, laughing their asses off at some of those they're screwing actually being boobs and rubes enough to support them. What's that tapping you pendulously on the chin, children? The n*t sacks of very wealthy, powerful entities that don't give a rat's *** whether you live die. So long, suckas.

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