December 01, 2010

Federal Food Safety Act a Civics Lesson for Harry Reid?
— Gabriel Malor

Yesterday, the dummies in the Senate, including 14 Republicans, voted to pass the "FDA Food Safety Modernization Act", a bill that will raise the price of food.

Today, Majority Leader Reid and his retarded fellows are getting a lesson in civics:

A food safety bill that has burned up precious days of the SenateÂ’s lame-duck session appears headed back to the chamber because Democrats violated a constitutional provision requiring that tax provisions originate in the House.

By pre-empting the House’s tax-writing authority, Senate Democrats appear to have touched off a power struggle with members of their own party in the House. The Senate passed the bill Tuesday, sending it to the House, but House Democrats are expected to use a procedure known as “blue slipping” to block the bill, according to House and Senate GOP aides.

The bill included several "fees" (aka "taxes") on businesses to pay for new federal food inspectors and other bureaucratic expansion. Roll Call speculates that Reid will have to drop the bill until next year, since Republicans led by Senator Coburn won't agree to change the lame duck schedule now.

One word of caution: the source for this story appears to be Republican staffers in the House and the Senate, who expect House Democrats to not let the Senate usurp the House's constitutional prerogative. Let's just say my expectation that House Democrats will "do the right thing" is not very high. It could happen, but I'm not going to put big money on it.

Update: Just so you know who the 14 Republican retards who voted for this thing are:

Alexander (R-TN)
Brown (R-MA)
Burr (R-NC)
Collins (R-ME)
Enzi (R-WY)
Grassley (R-IA)
Gregg (R-NH)
Johanns (R-NE)
Kirk (R-IL)
LeMieux (R-FL)
Lugar (R-IN)
Murkowski (R-AK)
Snowe (R-ME)
Vitter (R-LA)

Idiots.

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at 05:26 AM | Comments (156)
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1

Quaint idea of the day:  That anyone in Washington knows the provisions of the Constitution.

 

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at December 01, 2010 05:30 AM (B+qrE)

2 Jeezus, I hate these fucking nannyistic congressholes.

Posted by: Sweet Lucifer Morningstar at December 01, 2010 05:31 AM (q/Y+m)

3 The bill included several "fees" (aka "taxes") on businesses to pay for new federal food inspectors and other bureaucratic expansion. 

Effectiveness boils down to law enforcement.

Enforce the current laws rather than add more.

Whatever funding would have been required for the new law should be spent on the current enforcements.

CUT GOVERNMENT SPENDING.

Is this bill related to McCain's bill making over the counter vitamins/supplements illegal? Will his get inserted within?

Posted by: maverick muse at December 01, 2010 05:32 AM (H+LJc)

4 My understanding is that there is already a house bill that has passed on the same subject and that the house has agreed to accept the Senate bill under the reconciliation process.  If I remember correctly from the Stimulus debate they can just replace the entire text of the house bill with the senate bill and the origination issue becomes moot.  I could be wrong I am not a lawyer or a legislative staffer but I really seem to remember them doing this a couple times in the past two years.

Posted by: chad at December 01, 2010 05:32 AM (WNcvq)

5 actually, the entire thing can be challenged in court because it is not constitutionally sound- expect the lawsuits to be filed shortly

Posted by: mea culpa at December 01, 2010 05:34 AM (3nDF5)

6 Quadruplet Murkowski , Brown, Snowe, Collins

Posted by: maverick muse at December 01, 2010 05:34 AM (H+LJc)

7 Just so you know who the 14 Republican retards who voted for this thing are:

. . . Brown (R-MA)

Vote the RINO out!!


Posted by: Indignant Anti-establishmentarian at December 01, 2010 05:35 AM (q/Y+m)

8 Collins and Snowe?  Hmmm, never would have guessed that.  At least they're electable, so we got that going for us.

Posted by: Tim at December 01, 2010 05:35 AM (xq7pr)

9 Let's just say my expectation that House Democrats will "do the right thing" is not very high. It could happen, but I'm not going to put big money on it.

Especially since a good chunk of them are on the way out.  This will be one of many final "fuck you"s to the American public.  Wonderful.

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at December 01, 2010 05:35 AM (9hSKh)

10 5 actually, the entire thing can be challenged in court because it is not constitutionally sound- expect the lawsuits to be filed shortly

Buwahahahahahaha! 

Posted by: Obamacare Coverage Mandates at December 01, 2010 05:37 AM (9hSKh)

11 What are the repercussions of this idiocy?  Can we have Reid's pee-pee whacked?

Demerits?  Anything?

Posted by: Fritz at December 01, 2010 05:37 AM (GwPRU)

12 Didn't Obamacare do the same thing? Written in the Senate and passed as is in the House. It also raises taxes. Unfortunately the Courts, the Senate, the House and Obama all don't know or care about the constitution and your rights. Only 25 out of 100 Senators care now, and one of those voted for Obamacare.

Posted by: dvdivx at December 01, 2010 05:40 AM (rBW4C)

13 I just want them to stop putting fecal material in my peanut butter.

Posted by: Joanie (Oven Gloves) at December 01, 2010 05:43 AM (HaYO4)

14 Matt Taibbi called Enzi an 'ant brain' in Griftopia. I think Wyoming can do better

Posted by: Zimriel at December 01, 2010 05:46 AM (Mpe2f)

15 See, I KNEW Judd Gregg would vote for this.  The man frustrates the hell out of me.  Sometimes he's right on the money in terms of traditional, conservative politics (you know, the stuff that got him elected to so many NH offices of note).  But other times he's a complete lapdog to liberal lovefests like this one.  I'm sure he felt safe voting for this since he's on the way out and Kelly Ayotte is taking his seat.  I hope to God Kelly plays more true to conservatism than Judd has.  It would give me a hell of a lot less heartburn.

Posted by: MWR at December 01, 2010 05:46 AM (4df7R)

16 "4 My understanding is that there is already a house bill that has passed on the same subject and that the house has agreed to accept the Senate bill under the reconciliation process.  If I remember correctly from the Stimulus debate they can just replace the entire text of the house bill with the senate bill and the origination issue becomes moot.  I could be wrong I am not a lawyer or a legislative staffer but I really seem to remember them doing this a couple times in the past two years.

Posted by: chad at December 01, 2010 09:32 AM (WNcvq)"


I think you are right. The only way this turd passes is if the House passes the Senate version, which it will now do as a final "screw you" measure.

Posted by: dvdivx at December 01, 2010 05:46 AM (rBW4C)

17

I just want them to stop putting fecal material in my peanut butter.

You are engaged in an obvious attempt to mislead the public.  Fecal matter offers many health benefits.

Posted by: National Organziation for the Promotion of Fecal Matter at December 01, 2010 05:47 AM (B+qrE)

18 Reid is incapable of learning.

Posted by: tarpon at December 01, 2010 05:47 AM (g0QB8)

19 Surprising the farm state repubs who voted for this.  I wonder how they will explain that to the farmers since that will likely hurt them? 

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at December 01, 2010 05:47 AM (RkRxq)

20 Is anyone really surprised by that list of repubs?

Posted by: Trish at December 01, 2010 05:47 AM (yqhkv)

21 God damn it Brown.

Posted by: Gaff at December 01, 2010 05:49 AM (CMpbs)

22 5 actually, the entire thing can be challenged in court because it is not constitutionally sound- expect the lawsuits to be filed shortly

Posted by: mea culpa at December 01, 2010 09:34 AM (3nDF5)

I'm not even a natural born citizen  Bwahaaaaa!

Posted by: B+rry Ob+owmao at December 01, 2010 05:49 AM (GtDKF)

23 Surprising the farm state repubs who voted for this.  I wonder how they will explain that to the farmers since that will likely hurt them?

Basically any farm that isn't owned by ConAgra, ADM or Monsanto is exempt from what I read yesterday.  Tester (D-MT) forced that through.

Posted by: chad at December 01, 2010 05:49 AM (WNcvq)

24 Your New and Improved GOP!!!  Message:  We care!

Posted by: Bill Lumbergh at December 01, 2010 05:50 AM (K/USr)

25 Is RINO meat FDA approved?

Posted by: NM Hick at December 01, 2010 05:51 AM (IzuWw)

26 l'd have voted for it 'cept I got confused. Need to watch the Maine sisters hands closer.

Posted by: John McAmnesty, Loser to an Incompetant Ideologue at December 01, 2010 05:51 AM (GtDKF)

27 Something tells me Scott Brown isn't going to do quite as well raising $$ from the base in 2012. Just a hunch.  Hope he has a short term lease on his DC apt.

Posted by: Bill Lumbergh at December 01, 2010 05:52 AM (K/USr)

28

Aaarghh!  Mark Kirk was sworn in yesterday, yesterday!! and this is the first thing he votes on???!!!!!!!!!!! 

Idiot!!!

Posted by: Boots at December 01, 2010 05:54 AM (neKzn)

29 Actually, I'm confused why this is bad exactly. Yes, there are some additional fees, but I also like having safe food to eat. I'd prefer having to pay a little more so that Chinese companies cannot put rat parts or use lead parts in food exports.

Posted by: Illinidiva at December 01, 2010 05:55 AM (23P91)

30 Posted by: Indignant Anti-establishmentarian at December 01, 2010 09:35 AM (q/Y+m)

Scott Brown is not getting reelected, not in a presidential election year in a state that reelected Deval Patrick in a 'bad' year for Democrats nationwide.

Scott can stick his finger in our eye all day long and in the end the Dem vote machine will churn out and pull the "D" lever mindlessly.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at December 01, 2010 05:56 AM (TpXEI)

31 18 Reid voters are is incapable of learning.

Posted by: tarpon at December 01, 2010 09:47 AM (g0QB


FIFY

Posted by: Unclefacts, Confuse A Cat, Ltd. at December 01, 2010 05:56 AM (eCAn3)

32 Brown (R-MA)

Vote the RINO out!!

Brown is the closest thing to a Republican one can get in this zombie state. (Remember that when Romney is running in the primaries). Can't completely blame him for being an idiot half the time, but an idiot half the time is better than the full time Democrat loons we have running the show in this state.

I swear someday the only people going to be left in Massachusetts are the indigent welfare suckers and the limousine liberal moonbats. It'll be pay per view entertainment when the monster finally turns on its creator.

Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston at December 01, 2010 05:56 AM (ijjAe)

33 So is Lisa at all interested in contaiminents that may be in her cocaine stash?

Posted by: torabora at December 01, 2010 05:59 AM (GtDKF)

34 Actually, I'm confused why this is bad exactly. Yes, there are some additional fees, but I also like having safe food to eat. I'd prefer having to pay a little more so that Chinese companies cannot put rat parts or use lead parts in food exports.

Most commenters will probably say that it's bad because this is a function that should be handled by a private company such as UL.  In my opinion they are people who have never had to deal with UL, ETL, CSA or any of the other NRTLs, which are probably the only organizations in existence that make the federal government look efficient in comparison. 

My primary objection is that, from what I have read, the bill has so many exceptions that it doesn't actually address the issues that have come up in recent food contamination cases, and it will probably raise costs substantially.

Posted by: chad at December 01, 2010 06:02 AM (WNcvq)

35 It would have been 15 republicans voting for it if Tokyo Rove got his way in Delaware.

Posted by: bustamove at December 01, 2010 06:02 AM (2gwC2)

36

We already new these elites were obstructionists.  We'll see how things go for them when the new House is seated.  Post-reconciliation of appropriations will the markups pass the House?

I feel in my bones Boehner and Cantor will be getting more face-time with Amerikkka than they are expecting.

Posted by: gary gulrud at December 01, 2010 06:02 AM (/g2vP)

37 Whut cood go wong?

Posted by: Bwaney Fwank at December 01, 2010 06:03 AM (GtDKF)

38 Fox News pimping some  breaking news "game changer" by a Virginia Judge re: Healthcare Reform.  Coming up whenever they feel like it...

Posted by: Lincolntf at December 01, 2010 06:04 AM (Z6Mgb)

39 Fox News pimping some  breaking news "game changer" by a Virginia Judge re: Healthcare Reform.  Coming up whenever they feel like it...

I already linked it at about comment 16 in the headlines thread.

Posted by: chad at December 01, 2010 06:05 AM (WNcvq)

40 Why am I not surprised to see little dick Lugar (R-IN) listed as one of the usual suspects voting for the Demos/socialists???

Posted by: alwyr at December 01, 2010 06:05 AM (w2++y)

41 O/T, but here is an interesting commentary from John Lott about Palin and the attacks on her from the establishment.

She may be the ultimate anti-RINO.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo ( NJConservative) at December 01, 2010 06:05 AM (LH6ir)

42 In my opinion they are people who have never had to deal with UL, ETL, CSA or any of the other NRTLs, which are probably the only organizations in existence that make the federal government look efficient in comparison.

I deal with UL quite a bit.  Saying they are as bad as the federal government is a stretch.  After all, the company seeking UL listing is who pays for it, as opposed to taxpayers.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at December 01, 2010 06:06 AM (TpXEI)

43 Posted by: chad

Just read it. Not at all what I was hoping for.

Posted by: Lincolntf at December 01, 2010 06:08 AM (Z6Mgb)

44 After all, the company seeking UL listing is who pays for it, as opposed to taxpayers.

And under this bill the cost is footed by the food producers (and ultimately the consumer).  That's what the fees are for.

Posted by: chad at December 01, 2010 06:08 AM (WNcvq)

45 Not.  Going.  To say it.

Posted by: AoSHQ's DarkLord© at December 01, 2010 06:08 AM (GBXon)

46 So when I passed judd gregg in his jeep wrangler on nh 16 over the weekend I should have run him off the road instead of pointing to my eyes then at him? Sitting in traffic next to me isn't your best bet when you have us senate plates on your car. He should be happy it wasn't warm out and had his windows closed.

Posted by: evil libertarian at December 01, 2010 06:08 AM (q1Tbv)

47 Fuck the RINOs.

Remind about Electability again?

Posted by: SurferDoc at December 01, 2010 06:09 AM (o3bYL)

48

Constitution?  Piffle.  They will do what they want, and it doesn't matter what we think.  Fat lot of good 63 seats gets you.  I know, they haven't taken office yet, but wouldn't matter. 

 

Posted by: blaster at December 01, 2010 06:10 AM (MrMxG)

49

Isn't there a constitutional amendment that banned lame duck sessions?

Posted by: Ben at December 01, 2010 06:10 AM (wuv1c)

50

"The other half will be here to brand you a RINO loving [heretic] shortly."

See 38.  Big diff between career ticks and green centerfolds.

Besides the word for 'inbred prosimian mutant spawn' is not "heretic".

Posted by: gary gulrud at December 01, 2010 06:10 AM (/g2vP)

51

I've been amazed by this vote and the Earmark ban vote.

People who are obstensibly conservative like Jim Inhofe and  David Vitter seem to turn up on the wrong side of these issues

Posted by: Ben at December 01, 2010 06:12 AM (wuv1c)

52 Is this the bill that makes it illegal for me to sell or give away vegetables from my own personal garden?

Posted by: Ben at December 01, 2010 06:12 AM (wuv1c)

53 Somebody remind me, when is it these fucking squish RINO motherfucks are supposed to vote like a Conservative again?

Posted by: Unclefacts, Confuse A Cat, Ltd. at December 01, 2010 06:15 AM (eCAn3)

54 No, anyone who does less that $500,000 a year in business or who sells XX% of their product within 275 miles of where it is produced is exempt.  That's why all the big agra-corps stopped supporting it.

Posted by: chad at December 01, 2010 06:15 AM (WNcvq)

55 55 Is this the bill that makes it illegal for me to sell or give away vegetables from my own personal garden?

Posted by: Ben at December 01, 2010 10:12 AM (wuv1c)

Could be.

Posted by: Whorehouse Harry Reid at December 01, 2010 06:15 AM (GtDKF)

56 My primary objection is that, from what I have read, the bill has so many exceptions that it doesn't actually address the issues that have come up in recent food contamination cases, and it will probably raise costs substantially.

^ This.

Always start from the position that when the federal government regulates something, the cost of that thing will go up. So whatever benefit we're getting from the regulation better be equal to or greater than the cost increase. If it's not, WHY THE FUCK IS IT GETTING REGULATED?

Here, the food safety act doesn't actually fix anything. It just makes it more expensive to produce and sell food. So it's not worth it.

I'm not opposed to safe food either. I just don't see what this bill has to do with making my food safer, other than the title of the bill.

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at December 01, 2010 06:17 AM (XVaFd)

57 Someone needs to make a tally of how much money this lame duck congress has spent. I know its at least 5 billion with the Pigtrough settlement.

Posted by: Ben at December 01, 2010 06:18 AM (wuv1c)

58 Are you sure chad? Because I was pretty certain those amendments did NOT make it into the final bill.

Posted by: GMan at December 01, 2010 06:18 AM (sxq57)

59 mallamut today...i won't paint with my "broad" brush....even though i'm a "broad"..... i've never been abroad

Posted by: phoenixgirl at December 01, 2010 06:21 AM (eOXTH)

60 Don't worry I've been here for years. I don't 'love' RINOs, but here in a Massachusetts it's literally a choice between RINOs or being robbed (for money to buy votes and keep government coatholders employed) and prison fucked by Prince Barney Frank.

Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston at December 01, 2010 06:21 AM (ijjAe)

61 I just voted for Richard Burr last month. Dude has always had a better than 90% conservative rating and consistently takes the right side in the soundbite wars. Wonder what fucked up kind of agri-pork he scored for NC?

Posted by: Lincolntf at December 01, 2010 06:21 AM (Z6Mgb)

62 That's what the news reported yesterday.  I am actually looking at the "final text" now and it appears to me they did.  I could ask my brother who is a food safety inspector for WSDA to be sure but that would take a couple hours.

Posted by: chad at December 01, 2010 06:22 AM (WNcvq)

63 The usual suspects...Can we finish these rine puke assholes off in 12??

Posted by: dananjcon at December 01, 2010 06:23 AM (pr+up)

64 and i guess the word for republicans that aren't rino's but vote like libs is idiot? or is it retard? and when a non rino republican is so wrong on a vote...ie the ear mark bill or this food bill should we have a new word?

Posted by: phoenixgirl at December 01, 2010 06:24 AM (eOXTH)

65

Is it just me, or are these idiots voting to increase food prices and taxes on the same fucking day that unemployment benefits are running out for millions of people?

I'm not say that we should print money for unemployment benefits either, but in a reupblic wouldn't this normally equal political suicide?

Posted by: Blue Hen at December 01, 2010 06:25 AM (R2fpr)

66 Lugar (R-IN)

Remember folks, if he gets primaried out, the GOP is "beyond redemption" according to Danforth

Posted by: kbdabear at December 01, 2010 06:28 AM (vdfwz)

67 and i guess the word for republicans that aren't rino's but vote like libs is idiot? or is it retard?

and when a non rino republican is so wrong on a vote...ie the ear mark bill or this food bill should we have a new word?

Posted by: phoenixgirl

 

The term is: 'electable Republican' or 'Republican of last resort'

Perhaps: 'Republican Offering Compromise for Kicks' (ROCKS)

Posted by: Blue Hen at December 01, 2010 06:28 AM (R2fpr)

68 Lugar (R-IN)

Remember folks, if he gets primaried out, the GOP is "beyond redemption" according to Danforth

Posted by: kbdabear

 

I endorse this message.

Posted by: Mike Castle (and I'm still pissed) at December 01, 2010 06:29 AM (R2fpr)

69 Kirrrrrrrrrrrrrrrk!

Posted by: Khan at December 01, 2010 06:29 AM (ehKDD)

70 or who sells XX% of their product within 275 miles of where it is produced is exempt.

...so everyone who lives north of Atlanta is going to see the price of oranges skyrocket.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at December 01, 2010 06:29 AM (4ucxv)

71 Is it just me, or are these idiots voting to increase food prices and taxes on the same fucking day that unemployment benefits are running out for millions of people?

I guess this is where we find out if it's true what they say about bread and circuses.

Posted by: chad at December 01, 2010 06:30 AM (WNcvq)

72

Here's some more good news: the FDA has recalled Darvocet and Darvon.

 

My wife uses Darvocet to control the pain from RSD, Reflex Sympathetic Dystrophy, and has been using it for the last 7 years with no ill effect.

 

The recall was in response to a petion from "Public Citizen" the reactionary leftist group founded by Ralph Nader.

 

Thanks a lot, assholes, now my wife is in a panic trying to track down her neurologist in order to get a replacement pain medicine.

 

One that will have actual side effects, unlike the Darvocet.

 

Oh, and Darvon has been on the market since 1957.

 

Posted by: Lazarus Long at December 01, 2010 06:30 AM (Mgd8Q)

73 blue hen haha

Posted by: phoenixgirl at December 01, 2010 06:31 AM (eOXTH)

74 Is it just me, or are these idiots voting to increase food prices and taxes on the same fucking day that unemployment benefits are running out for millions of people?

Well, that makes sense...creates a need for M'Shell's (how does she legally hold power to spend federal money, again?) new federally-subsidized salad bars and veggie markets.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at December 01, 2010 06:32 AM (4ucxv)

75 Between this crashing and burning and the movement toward ending ethanol subsidies the agriculture lobby is in for a very bad year.

Posted by: Rocks at December 01, 2010 06:33 AM (Q1lie)

76 Is anyone really surprised by that list of repubs?

I was surprised Hutchison was not on the list.

Posted by: Jack's complete lack of suprise at December 01, 2010 06:33 AM (F/4zf)

77 ...if we can't afford perishable foods...and it starts rotting in the stores...so they throw it out...will we be shot if we are caught going through the dumpsters?

Posted by: phoenixgirl at December 01, 2010 06:33 AM (eOXTH)

78 Darvon has been on the market for a long time but there have been at least 3 previous attempts to withdraw it because in about 5% of patients it causes severe heart rhythm problems.  I think the first one was in like 1965.  This has been a long time coming.

Posted by: chad at December 01, 2010 06:36 AM (WNcvq)

79 Dudes, I love you, so I've indexed Federal wages to the price of arugula.

Posted by: Barry O'Manly at December 01, 2010 06:37 AM (FcR7P)

80 I haven't finished reading s510 yet, but the impression I am getting is that this is a backhanded endorsement of the local foods movement. 

Posted by: chad at December 01, 2010 06:38 AM (WNcvq)

81 I take darvocet too, for my back pain.  Now what am I supposed to do?

Posted by: jewells45 at December 01, 2010 06:39 AM (l/N7H)

82

Actually, there isn't much in the reconciliation version about real exceptions...

The 275 mile rule applies to what are called "Qualified End Users", and the $500K limit is under the 1 year exemption clause.

And yes, several large ag businesses are still supporting this travesty, such as Kraft & General Mills (at least as of last PM).

Calling this bill "Food Safety" does not make it so.  It does nothing to enhance "food safety" nor does it "protect" consumers.  It does raise costs & makes it nearly impossible for small companies to sell nationwide...

 

Posted by: Jess at December 01, 2010 06:39 AM (JxrwH)

83 DIABLO was the term that Steyn coined for some of these harsher cases, Vitter proves well he can do to us, what the Madam did to him

Posted by: justin cord at December 01, 2010 06:39 AM (V3JdB)

84 Didn't they do exactly this when then passed the Senate version of ObamaCare ?

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at December 01, 2010 06:41 AM (tE8FB)

85

"I take darvocet too, for my back pain.  Now what am I supposed to do?"

Suffer.

Sounds cruel, but that's what you get now that our lives are goverened by faceless mandarins...

 

Posted by: Jess at December 01, 2010 06:45 AM (JxrwH)

86

Here's some more good news: the FDA has recalled Darvocet and Darvon.

 

My wife uses Darvocet to control the pain from RSD, Reflex Sympathetic Dystrophy, and has been using it for the last 7 years with no ill effect.

 

The recall was in response to a petion from "Public Citizen" the reactionary leftist group founded by Ralph Nader.

 

Thanks a lot, assholes, now my wife is in a panic trying to track down her neurologist in order to get a replacement pain medicine.

 

One that will have actual side effects, unlike the Darvocet.

 

Oh, and Darvon has been on the market since 1957.

 

 

on what basis did they ban it? Also  I always thought Percocet, Endocet, and all the other "-ocet's" were essentially the same drug. Are they banned too?

Posted by: Ben at December 01, 2010 06:45 AM (wuv1c)

87 During the COD debate, someone suggested that we need to put up with the RINO's because, hey, they'll at least vote correctly 50 percent of the time. I'm still waiting for a "correct" vote from some of them, on a bill that matters.

Posted by: Luca Brasi at December 01, 2010 06:46 AM (YmPwQ)

88 24, so two mushroom farms in SE PA, a free range chicken joint in OR, and two hand picked - colonial reinactors in VA.

Posted by: Jean at December 01, 2010 06:49 AM (HKVGZ)

89 kbdabear -- "beyond redemption" could be the title of Beck's or Sarah's next book/website/video

Posted by: Jean at December 01, 2010 06:51 AM (7Jipo)

90

The Dark LordÂ’s Second Law:

 95% of all politicians are motivated by self-interests. 

 

The Dark LordÂ’s Third Law:

 The remaining 5% are the dangerous ones.

Posted by: AoSHQ's DarkLord© at December 01, 2010 06:51 AM (GBXon)

91 I just "liked" Senator Richard Burr on Facebook to ask him why he voted for the FSA. I'm not holding my breath.

Posted by: Lincolntf at December 01, 2010 06:52 AM (Z6Mgb)

92 ATTENTION!

Henceforth, I'm the only licensed seller of Ugg boots!

Please report any further Ugg spam to the corporate offices.

Posted by: Tom Brady at December 01, 2010 06:52 AM (BP6Z1)

93 on what basis did they ban it? Also  I always thought Percocet, Endocet, and all the other "-ocet's" were essentially the same drug. Are they banned too?

The active ingredient (Propoxyphene) was found to cause serious cardiac arrhythmias in a substantial number of patients.  I read somewhere it was up to 5% put I can't find that number now.  It has been banned in Europe for a couple years now.

Percocet is oxycodone and tylenol oxycodone is a synthetic heroin derivative. 

Posted by: chad at December 01, 2010 06:52 AM (WNcvq)

94

Sacrifice:  

 Washington (CNN) -- President Barack Obama is considering at least a
short delay to the start of his holiday vacation in Hawaii so he can try to work
out a deal with congressional Republicans on the Bush tax cuts that expire
December 31

Posted by: PoconoJoe at December 01, 2010 06:52 AM (txywl)

95

Vitter proves well he can do to us, what the Madam did to him

And yet he's so much better than my other Senator. He bought it, she sells it.

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 01, 2010 06:54 AM (XdlcF)

96

...so everyone who lives north of Atlanta is going to see the price of oranges skyrocket.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at December 01, 2010 10:29 AM (4ucxv)

... and everyone outside of Kansas will see the price of everything made from grain crops skyrocket. (I'm generalising, but you get the picture)

Posted by: theBman at December 01, 2010 06:59 AM (/vN7m)

97 Nice -

Obama administration officials will announce this afternoon that they will not allow offshore oil drilling in the eastern Gulf of Mexico or off the Atlantic and Pacific coasts as part of the next five-year drilling plan, according to sources briefed on the plan, reversing two key policy changes President Obama announced in late March. During that announcement -- less than a month before the BP oil spill -- Obama and Interior Secretary Ken Salazar said they would open up the eastern Gulf and parts of the Atlantic, including off the coast of Virginia, to offshore oil and gas exploration.

So raising food prices wasn't enough, energy prices need to go up too.

Posted by: chad at December 01, 2010 06:59 AM (WNcvq)

98

"The active ingredient (Propoxyphene) was found to cause serious cardiac arrhythmias in a substantial number of patients.  I read somewhere it was up to 5% "

Here's a thought: take THEM off of it.

Posted by: Lazarus Long at December 01, 2010 06:59 AM (Mgd8Q)

99

Here's some more good news: the FDA has recalled Darvocet and Darvon. 

 

Oh, and Darvon has been on the market since 1957.

 

Posted by: Lazarus Long at December 01, 2010 10:30 AM (Mgd8Q)

 

Sickening, but not surprising.  The FDA has been doing as much harm as good for years now.  I, too, lost a side-effect-free medicine thanks to their damn meddling.  If it were up to them they'd ban asprin.  They're letting perfect become the enemy of the good.  They don't follow their own directives on risk analysis.  They don't really weigh cost/benefit - they look for any reason to obstruct progress they can find.  Unless, of course, there's bribe money involved.  In that case you can get anything approved.

Posted by: Reactionary at December 01, 2010 07:00 AM (xUM1Q)

100 @101

It's a little late when they die.

Posted by: chad at December 01, 2010 07:01 AM (WNcvq)

101 Posted by: chad at December 01, 2010 10:52 AM (WNcvq)

Nope.

Percocet is a mixture of oxycodone and acetaminophen. They work synergistically, thus the mixture.

It is one of the many opiates, which are derived from opium, not heroin.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo ( NJConservative) at December 01, 2010 07:02 AM (LH6ir)

102 100 - that action is an acknowledgement of the legislative logjam that is about to happen - rule by regulatory fiat. Boehner is going to have to make deep cuts in order to scare the bureaucrats.

Posted by: Jean at December 01, 2010 07:03 AM (lnUW/)

103 #100  So raising food prices wasn't enough, energy prices need to go up too.

Control energy, control food, and you've got the populace under your thumb. 

Posted by: Obamacare Coverage Mandates at December 01, 2010 07:03 AM (9hSKh)

104

Oh, and Darvon has been on the market since 1957.

on what basis did they ban it? Also  I always thought Percocet, Endocet, and all the other "-ocet's" were essentially the same drug. Are they banned too?

Posted by: Ben at December 01, 2010 10:45 AM (wuv1c)

The "-ocet" means it contains acetaminophen [Tylenol©®]. The preceding syllables is the difference in the drugs.


Posted by: Museisluse© at December 01, 2010 07:03 AM (DTfXb)

105 Alright it's an opioid (as is heroin)  other than that you said the same thing I did.

Posted by: chad at December 01, 2010 07:06 AM (WNcvq)

106 The biggest thing, here, is that almost all "food contamination" issues would be moot with proper preparation of the foods. 

Cook your meats all the way through- if you're going to eat rare meat, then you have to accept the risks.

Wash your fruits and vegetables thoroughly.  If you're concerned, or if there is an outbreak, cook them instead of eating them raw.

These things aren't hard, they don't require congressional intervention, and they don't mess with the price of food one wit.

And, as for Darvocet:  Crap.  I think my wife takes that for her migraines- I'll have to let her know so she can look for something, too.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at December 01, 2010 07:07 AM (8y9MW)

107

It is one of the many opiates, which are derived from opium, not heroin.

It's a semi-synthetic opioid.

I figure they just want to get oxycodone off of the market because it's widely abused.

Posted by: Ed Anger at December 01, 2010 07:08 AM (7+pP9)

108 OT, We are asking everyone to say a prayer for the US "Darkhorse" 3rd Battalion 5th Infantry Marines and their families. They are fighting it out in Afghanistan and have lost 9 Marines in 4 days.

Posted by: Radioactive Satellite Of LOVE at December 01, 2010 07:08 AM (LdYLm)

109 OT - Speaking of scams, the final report of the "bipartisan debt commission" was released today.

Obama debt panel: $4 trillion in cuts

The introductory graph was enough to piss me off.  "Making the Bush tax cuts permanent for household income under $250,000 would cost over $3 trillion over the first decade".

/There are at least two fallacies in that single sentence.  First, the notion that taxes are a "cost" to government (it's our money, damn it!) and second, that making the Bush tax cuts permanent would cause that big of a deficit.  I assume that a static revenue analysis was used to derive that number. 

Posted by: Obamacare Coverage Mandates at December 01, 2010 07:09 AM (9hSKh)

110

Aaarghh!  Mark Kirk was sworn in yesterday, yesterday!! and this is the first thing he votes on???!!!!!!!!!!! 

It's best to have your illusions shattered early on.  That way you can move directly to revenge fantasies.

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 01, 2010 07:09 AM (xxgag)

111
/There are at least two fallacies in that single sentence.  First, the notion that taxes are a "cost" to government (it's our money, damn it!) and second, that making the Bush tax cuts permanent would cause that big of a deficit.  I assume that a static revenue analysis was used to derive that number. 

Posted by: Obamacare Coverage Mandates at December 01, 2010 11:09 AM (9hSKh)


Not to mention that everybody is talking about tax cuts when what is really going on is a proposed tax increase.

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 01, 2010 07:10 AM (xxgag)

112 Another vacation for Barry?

Posted by: t-bird at December 01, 2010 07:11 AM (FcR7P)

113 113

Aaarghh!  Mark Kirk was sworn in yesterday, yesterday!! and this is the first thing he votes on???!!!!!!!!!!! 

It's best to have your illusions shattered early on.  That way you can move directly to revenge fantasies.

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 01, 2010 11:09 AM (xxgag)

Charlie Brown - Voters for Mark Kirk

Football - Food Safety

Lucy - Mark Kirk

Posted by: Radioactive Satellite Of LOVE at December 01, 2010 07:11 AM (LdYLm)

114

I'd prefer having to pay a little more so that Chinese companies cannot put rat parts or use lead parts in food exports.

Howzabout we just tell the ChiComs to go fuck themselves and we start growing all our own food? Problem solved.

This solution also works for everything else we currently import from them for no good reason. We can make all our stuff here, like we used to, once we get Washington under our direct control.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 01, 2010 07:13 AM (b6qrg)

115 I wonder how Mike Castle would have voted? 

Posted by: Dave C looking to duck under a table. at December 01, 2010 07:14 AM (vjkov)

116

I'd prefer having to pay a little more so that Chinese companies cannot put rat parts or use lead parts in food exports.

Howzabout we just tell the ChiComs to go fuck themselves and we start growing all our own food? Problem solved.

This solution also works for everything else we currently import from them for no good reason. We can make all our stuff here, like we used to, once we get Washington under our direct control.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 01, 2010 11:13 AM (b6qrg)

The whole point of the bill is to make people dependent on Gov't. The world Gov't. (Channeling my inner Glen Beck)

Posted by: Radioactive Satellite Of LOVE at December 01, 2010 07:14 AM (LdYLm)

117 Not to mention that everybody is talking about tax cuts when what is really going on is a proposed tax increase.

Yup, *golf clap*.

Showing this from another sentence in the story:

Tax measures -- including a reduction in tax breaks -- would account for roughly 26%.

/Reduction in tax breaks = tax increase. 

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at December 01, 2010 07:15 AM (9hSKh)

118 117 - you realize, we grow the food - ship it to China for processing and packaging - then ship it back.

Posted by: Jean at December 01, 2010 07:15 AM (wgkZv)

119 80 ...if we can't afford perishable foods...and it starts rotting in the stores...so they throw it out...will we be shot if we are caught going through the dumpsters?

Shoot back.

Posted by: wrg at December 01, 2010 07:16 AM (mB2ub)

120

I swear someday the only people going to be left in Massachusetts are the indigent welfare suckers and the limousine liberal moonbats. It'll be pay per view entertainment when the monster finally turns on its creator.

You joke about this, but it's true: The DEMs now consist of rich white libtards [largely Jewish hucksters & conmen], blacks, and Mexican Indians, with some [albeit slowly fading] support from the Catholic union thugs.

And, of course, the homosexual interior decorators.

Without WASPs to do something productive in an economy, the DEM constituency will quickly implode, disintegrate, and cannibalize itself.

If this situation weren't so terribly tragic, it would be kinda hilarious [which seems to be e.g. Tom Wolfe's point of view - just sit back and laugh at the tragicomedy of it all.]

 

Posted by: Lindsey Grahamnesty licking Rahm Emanuel's salty shaven balls at December 01, 2010 07:16 AM (pfMMA)

121

 just sit back and laugh at the tragicomedy of it all

Or, if not laugh, then at least chuckle.

 

Posted by: Lindsey Grahamnesty licking Rahm Emanuel's salty shaven balls at December 01, 2010 07:16 AM (pfMMA)

122 So raising food prices wasn't enough, energy prices need to go up too.

Maybe those mental health professional should re-evaluate their Obama-is-not-nuts finding.

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 01, 2010 07:17 AM (xxgag)

123

Former pro hoopster Charles Barkley is known for speaking his mind, and he didn't hold back Tuesday night when discussing Barack 's basketball abilities on "Conan."

"I'm an old fat guy now, but I'll kick his ass," said Barkley, suggesting that he could beat the president in a one-on-one.

Obama's biggest problem? "He's a lefty. He always goes left. And if you just stand there, I'm not sure if you were to open up the right side, he could go right at all." (Insert political symbolism here.)

Posted by: Radioactive Satellite Of LOVE at December 01, 2010 07:17 AM (LdYLm)

124

I'd prefer having to pay a little more so that Chinese companies cannot put rat parts or use lead parts in food exports

You no rike rat parts in your food round eye?

Posted by: Chinese Rat Parts LLC at December 01, 2010 07:17 AM (wuv1c)

125 @124 - I'll laugh as long as I've got enough food and ammunition myself.  Once I run out, I'm not laughing anymore.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at December 01, 2010 07:18 AM (8y9MW)

126 @109

 The biggest source of food poisonings according to CDC used to be ice at fast food restaurants because the kids working the soda machine would go to the bathroom not wash his hands and then run the cup (and hand) thru the ice getting it all nice and fecally contaminated for you.  When we did bacteriological testing at the on base McDonalds in Philadelphia it always came back positive for coliform.  I stopped getting ice in my soda's.


Posted by: chad at December 01, 2010 07:18 AM (WNcvq)

127 @75 - BTW, do you have a link to that? 

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at December 01, 2010 07:19 AM (8y9MW)

128

@124 - I'll laugh as long as I've got enough food and ammunition myself.

You can NEVER have enough ammunition.

NEVER.

 

Posted by: Lindsey Grahamnesty licking Rahm Emanuel's salty shaven balls at December 01, 2010 07:20 AM (pfMMA)

129

You can NEVER have enough ammunition.

NEVER.

Why i do my own reloading.

Posted by: wrg at December 01, 2010 07:23 AM (mB2ub)

130 Food safety is one thing but isn't it always the other 500 pages in these bills?

Posted by: PoconoJoe at December 01, 2010 07:24 AM (txywl)

131

Don't believe me....look at the collar county vote totals in the Senate and Governor races. Bill Brady lost because he could not pull the same vote totals out of those suburban enclaves that Kirk could. We are at least another 2 cycles away from getting a more conservative Senator.....and that is because, in 4 years, Pat Quinn and company will have screwed the state up so bad that the suburban voters will finally pull their heads out.

It is what it is.

Posted by: Mallamutt at December 01, 2010 11:21 AM (OWjjx)

yea, I know, it's sometimes you wish these guys would show some backbone.

Posted by: Radioactive Satellite Of LOVE at December 01, 2010 07:24 AM (LdYLm)

132 @129 - Which kind of makes my point, doesn't it.

Preparation and handling at the end-point are far more likely to cause problems than even having your cabbage just swarming with e. coli or salmonella.  Most packaging is going to kill all that stuff anyway, and (at worst) all you have to do is wash it and cook it and the bacteria dies off.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at December 01, 2010 07:26 AM (8y9MW)

133

on what basis did they ban it? Also  I always thought Percocet, Endocet, and all the other "-ocet's" were essentially the same drug. Are they banned too?

Posted by: Ben

If the FDA banned Percocet, Caroline Kennedy would be on the hotline to BO to tell him to reverse the ban.

Can't have the Kennedys go without one of their drugs of choice.

Posted by: MrCaniac at December 01, 2010 07:26 AM (oREHE)

134 Darvocet Recall Link: http://bit.ly/dxnw4y

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at December 01, 2010 07:27 AM (8y9MW)

135 Just what we need as we head into rapid inflation - an increase in food cost added by the government. But that's not what this bill is about though. It's about controlling food. Remember, the left wants you sterilized by force and starved to death as a final solution. People in Obama's own staff have published books promoting this agenda. More regulation. More collusion between big business and big government while squeezing out the all other competitors. During the Great Depression they thought it would be a swell idea to slaughter livestock by the millions, burn crops, and criminalize private farming. It is happening again. Obama wants to starve us out just like his old pal Stalin.

Posted by: Chicago Jedi at December 01, 2010 07:27 AM (WZFkG)

136 "Perhaps: 'Republican Offering Compromise for Kicks' (ROCKS)" How about "Republicans Abandoning Principles In Selfish Tactics" - RAPISTs

Posted by: George Orwell at December 01, 2010 07:29 AM (AZGON)

137
The nice thing about 2012?

We can afford to dump Snowe & Brown because we'll pick up a bunch of seats in the red states. So...fuck 'em.

Our mission in 2012 is (in this order):
1. Keep the House
2. Take the Senate
3. Defeat Obama.

Posted by: Soothsayerwing Plover at December 01, 2010 07:30 AM (uFokq)

138
Howzabout we just tell the ChiComs to go fuck themselves and we start growing all our own food? Problem solved.




Helllllllp meeeeeeeeeee.......

Posted by: San Joaquin Valley Memorial Delta Smelt Dustbowl at December 01, 2010 07:31 AM (DZVrI)

139

The nice thing about 2012?

We can afford to dump Snowe & Brown because we'll pick up a bunch of seats in the red states. So...fuck 'em.

Our mission in 2012 is (in this order):
1. Keep the House
2. Take the Senate
3. Defeat Obama.

In the meantime, we'll just keep smiling and pretending that that the RINOs are better than the alternatve...as they keep on voting like the alternative.

Posted by: Luca Brasi at December 01, 2010 07:43 AM (YmPwQ)

140 Jeez Louise,

I just googled up the summary of this monstrosity.. The size and scope is unbelievable.

And, at the same time, Slappy the Lip o'Twelve Stitches is running around, telling us, "The Rich" are responsible for the deficit.

Posted by: franksalterego at December 01, 2010 08:04 AM (+6fgE)

141 My Senator (Burr), voted for this. Of course, he just won re-election and is safe for 6 years.

Well, Richard, it appears you did nothing but lie during the election. Apparently you believe no one is watching.


Posted by: blindside at December 01, 2010 08:15 AM (x7g7t)

142 Here is the message I just sent to my senator, Richard Burr.
"Senator Burr,
I am extremely disappointed that you voted in favor of the food safety bill. A bill which will do little other than increase the cost of food.
I would have thought that you would have seen by the last election that people want LESS government involvement in our lives.
I guess I was mistaken. You can feel proud of you standing with those stalwarts of conservatism, Senators Collins and Snowe."

Posted by: TC at December 01, 2010 08:20 AM (DYJjQ)

143 Dick Lugar is old, irrelevant and in the way. Time to replace him with a real sentient conservative.

Posted by: The Oracle at December 01, 2010 08:28 AM (Kjb8+)

144 My family and I worked many hours for Richard Burr, to be repaid with this immediately after re-election. First GOP Sen to be re-elected in NC in a very long time. He received +300K to vote Aye. There was a website with the full list of payments received by Senators voting for S 510; it has since been scrubbed. DaiseyMadison has the full list on twitter: DaiseyMadison Is this Communist America?What happened to the entire website where I obtained the article which listed bribes/donations for #S510 #scrubbed

Posted by: NCHometownGirl at December 01, 2010 08:46 AM (TNHSJ)

145 So, my Senator, Mike Enzi (R-WY) released a statement:

“The FDA Food Safety Modernization Act will help protect the food served on dinner tables across the entire country. It addresses issues including food borne illness outbreaks and product recalls. This bill helps make sure our imported food is safe.    What the bill the Senate passed today would not do is change how meat is regulated or sold. The bill would not regulate backyard gardens, produce grown for sale at farmers markets, locally sold foods, organizational picnics or bake sales, or food grown by individuals and their families. The bill would not add record keeping requirements for farms or allow the FDA to inspect farms. We made sure an amendment was added that would shield farmers and food producers from new federal regulations as long as the producer has less than $500,000 in annual sales and sells their products directly to consumers within 275 miles or within their own state.”

Looks like I am going to have to read the bill.

Posted by: Fenga Pappit at December 01, 2010 09:32 AM (A7anl)

146 Ya gotta wonder if the GOP let him walk right into that.... Hmmmmm. Now they'll have to do it all over again. Awww, geee, tough $hit Harry.

Posted by: chuck in st paul at December 01, 2010 11:07 AM (EhYdw)

147 I am one hundred percent opposed to this bill and will cast my vote in the Senate against it.

I did win, right?  Mark Levin told me that winning the primary was a victory in itself, so that counts, right?  I'm a Senator now, right?

*orders stationery*

Posted by: Christine O'Donnell at December 01, 2010 12:01 PM (TyLpy)

148 Great, finally gets coverage, after it passes, and nobody knows what's in it.

Fucking homework, people.

And when I say "homework," I don't mean "it has the word safety in the title, right?"

Codex Alimentarius, reduced physical inspections, higher rates, expanded discretionary powers - sweet baby Jesus, no one cares, do they?

And if you don't know what the problems with the Codex are, to start with they weaken standards in some areas like allergens. The whole idea is to simplify trade, and that's not an *inherently* bad idea, but methods matter.

Some of the complaints have been overblown, but mainly on scale or timing and not on content if that makes any sense. i.e. this bill may not totally screw the supplements market but it sure as hell is headed in that direction.

Posted by: Merovign, Strong on His Mountain at December 01, 2010 12:06 PM (bxiXv)

149 Here's Dale Peterson's take on what's in the bill: http://www.dalepetersonforamerica.com/alertsfromdale/federalfoodtakeover.html

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